Given only 3 games remaining in the regular schedule, this game is absolutely crucial to win - a western opponent, a win keeps us ahead of the Lions and a win solidifies a playoff game for the Bombers.
Some interesting side lights to consider as well...
- Brady Oliveira is just 29 rushing yards away from hitting the 1,000-yard mark for the fourth consecutive year.
- Nic Demski needs just four receiving yards to hit 1K for a third straight year.
As Brady said, "A Canadian duo getting a thousand yards together when no one had done it before? And now to do be close to doing it three years in a row? That's pretty special."
And I'll add - Both Oliviera and Demski are Manitobans to boot!
Ed Tait covers this and other facts in his 48-Hour Primer - Winnipeg at Edmonton linked below:
https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/10/09/48-hr-primer-game-16-at-edmonton/
Demski's playing availability will be determined soon, but, stay tuned, the dual 1K yards will happen barring injuries.
This game has all the elements of a great and exciting prelude to the playoffs.
Weather will be somewhat crisp - high of 9 C. and a low of 0 - no precipitation so far in the Saturday forecast.
Bring it on Bombers!
Parker in; Houston out.
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Nic Demski game-time decision for Winnipeg Blue Bombers against Elks
By 3Down Staff -October 10, 2025
The Winnipeg Blue Bombers have listed Canadian receiver Nic Demski as a game-time decision for when they visit the Edmonton Elks on Saturday night.
The 31-year-old native of Winnipeg, Man. recently posted to his Instagram page that he and his family are expecting a child, though the team has not officially confirmed this was the reason for his absence at practice this week.
The former first-round pick out of the University of Manitoba is on pace for the best season of his career having already made 66 catches for 996 yards and seven touchdowns, leading the team in all three categories. He is four receiving yards shy of his third-straight 1,000-yard season.
The Blue Bombers have also made a change in the secondary as Dexter Lawson Jr. has flipped to boundary cornerback with Demerio Houston out this week. Houston's return to the team coming off the bye week was reportedly delayed due to a family emergency, which is why he's a healthy scratch for this game.
Jamal Parker, who missed the team's most recent game due to a leg injury, is returning to the lineup to start at Lawson's usual spot at field-side cornerback. The 27-year-old native of Pennsauken, N.J. has made 24 defensive tackles and one interception over eight regular-season games in 2025.
Winnipeg can clinch a playoff spot with a win in Edmonton this week, which would mark their ninth straight trip to the CFL postseason.
The Winnipeg Blue Bombers (8-7) will visit the Edmonton Elks (6-9) at Commonwealth Stadium on Saturday, October 11 with kickoff slated for 7:00 p.m. EDT. Both teams are coming off bye weeks with the Blue Bombers still in the thick of the playoff hunt and the Elks looking to keep their faint postseason hopes alive.
The weather forecast in Edmonton calls for a high of 6 degrees with a 30 percent chance of showers. The game will be broadcast on TSN in Canada and CFL+ internationally. Radio listeners can tune-in on 880 CHED in Edmonton and 680 CJOB in Winnipeg.
https://3downnation.com/2025/10/10/nic-demski-game-time-decision-for-winnipeg-blue-bombers-against-elks-2/
Ok. Not the worst choices made for this week. Demski becomes a critical issue and hopefully he can play. I suppose Cobbs checks in if not and that hurts or receiver strength and depth.
I don't know exactly what is allowed regarding a GTD. Can a Canadian still be replaced with an import ( Wheatfall ) or a 2nd global player on game day? Obviously adding an import causes a domino effect.
Whether Wheatfall is even considered healthy enough / ready enough to play is the additional issue.
Probability is Cobb gets added.
Elks have been improving but they are the lowest scoring team and not in the top defences in 2025.
Don't see the point of flipping Dexter Lawson to the other side of the field, that has to be hard to do and breaks up the chemistry he developed playing beside Holm. Interesting he was the DB they moved to HB when Nichols went out for awhile last game, maybe he's the most versatile or maybe he was the only option they had.
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Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 10, 2025, 05:12:44 PMDon't see the point of flipping Dexter Lawson to the other side of the field, that has to be hard to do and breaks up the chemistry he developed playing beside Holm. Interesting he was the DB they moved to HB when Nichols went out for awhile last game, maybe he's the most versatile or maybe he was the only option they had.
Parker is a better choice to play where they are putting him.
Houston out could hurt. But, family issues come first.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 10, 2025, 05:50:56 PMHouston out could hurt. But, family issues come first.
Except he was back in Winnipeg and past the family issues per se. Demski with a new baby if a more pressing family issue. It will depend on what family support his wife has close by in deciding to play or sit. If he travels to Edmonton he'll play.
Edmonton Elks' defensive linemen Jared Brinkman, Robbie Smith return vs Bombers
By 3Down Staff -October 10, 2025
The Edmonton Elks will have a pair of star defensive linemen back in the lineup on Saturday when they clash with the Winnipeg Blue Bombers.
American defensive tackle Jared Brinkman and Canadian defensive end Robbie Smith will both make their return after being limited in practice this week. Brinkman sat out the team's last game due to shoulder and foot injuries, but has made 21 tackles and one sack in 14 games. Smith, the CFL's highest-paid defensive player, has been out since Week 12 due to an ankle injury and has just 16 defensive tackles in eight games since signing in Edmonton.
Also back this week is Global linebacker Eteva Mauga-Clements, who has 10 special teams tackles in nine games this year. Global defensive lineman Richard Jibunor has been returned to the practice roster, while American defensive lineman Elijah Alston and Canadian defensive lineman D.K. Bonhomme are listed as healthy scratches.
The Edmonton Elks (6-9) will host the Winnipeg Blue Bombers (8-7) at Commonwealth Stadium on Saturday, October 11, with kickoff slated for 7:00 p.m. EDT. Both teams are coming off bye weeks, with the Blue Bombers hoping to clinch a playoff spot with a victory and the Elks facing elimination if they lose.
The weather forecast in Edmonton calls for a high of 6 degrees with a 30 percent chance of showers. The game will be broadcast on TSN in Canada and CFL+ internationally. Radio listeners can tune in on 880 CHED in Edmonton and 680 CJOB in Winnipeg.
https://3downnation.com/2025/10/10/edmonton-elks-defensive-linemen-jared-brinkman-robbie-smith-return-vs-bombers/
Looks like Nic Demski will be playing. Good news!
Quote from: Jesse on October 10, 2025, 05:29:15 PMHmm... what's that about?
Has a personal issue to attend to
Elks got a couple studs back
Win in 2nd
Lose in 4th
Quote from: Blueforlife on October 10, 2025, 07:02:29 PMHas a personal issue to attend to
Elks got a couple studs back
Yes, he was out of town dealing with a family issue. We don't specifically need to know. Could have been an illness, wedding, graduation of a family member, personal business issue. Players have life issues which take precedent.
We should have no issues about the team accepting those things that come up. Although he's healthy he did miss this weeks practice. The team made a decision to move him to 1 game IR. Being away for a slightly extended time due to the bye, means he wasn't involved in the prep for this game.
So no problem.
The same could be said about Demski but he's a long time Bomber and will adapt quickly to any new wrinkles.
Demski is no longer a Game Time Decision and will be playing.
Quote from: gobombersgo on October 10, 2025, 08:13:03 PMDemski is no longer a Game Time Decision and will be playing.
Not too surprising, I read somewhere that they had the baby earlier this week, can't find confirmation of it though.
Quote from: Blue In BC on October 10, 2025, 08:08:45 PMYes, he was out of town dealing with a family issue. We don't specifically need to know. Could have been an illness, wedding, graduation of a family member, personal business issue. Players have life issues which take precedent.
We should have no issues about the team accepting those things that come up. Although he's healthy he did miss this weeks practice. The team made a decision to move him to 1 game IR. Being away for a slightly extended time due to the bye, means he wasn't involved in the prep for this game.
So no problem.
The same could be said about Demski but he's a long time Bomber and will adapt quickly to any new wrinkles.
Obviously if there's a good reason to miss the game that's understandable, but it does suck going from Houston who was a shutdown corner before the problematic stuff that happened to Lawson, who has been picked on numerous times this season. Hopefully that doesn't happen tomorrow.
Quote from: blue_or_die on October 10, 2025, 08:27:03 PMObviously if there's a good reason to miss the game that's understandable, but it does suck going from Houston who was a shutdown corner before the problematic stuff that happened to Lawson, who has been picked on numerous times this season. Hopefully that doesn't happen tomorrow.
Oh you can bet Fajardo and Elk will pick on him.
Quote from: Horseman on October 10, 2025, 08:29:54 PMOh you can bet Fajardo and Elk will pick on him.
Lawson will be the weakest link in the secondary. Possibly having Woods still on the AR will give him less time to find receivers. Willie will probably get a few knockdowns.
Not worried about the secondary but Houston will be missed
Especially if get an injury
Time for Woods to eat
Demski back is all kinds of good
Well here we go. Need this win! Go Bombers!
I don't know why but I have a bad feeling about this game.
empty stadium. very empty
Whoof coverage to start.
Nice D
2 and out
got some heat
Good strike by Allen. Smart hit
Quote from: Jesse on October 11, 2025, 11:09:49 PMVery empty.
there was some EE fan I was talking to at the BB tailgate. She said they get 30,000 every game they are just sitting on the camera side of the stadium. I think she was talking BS.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 11, 2025, 11:12:18 PMthere was some EE fan I was talking to at the BB tailgate. She said they get 30,000 every game they are just sitting on the camera side of the stadium. I think she was talking BS.
It's a massive field and looks empty with a good crowd. But they've averaged 15k all season before the last couple games brought their average to 20k.
This looks like it'll be back in the teens.
Incredible punt. People wanted him cut. Some say not good enough. Been money.
Holding come on man!
2nd punt eat crow lol
Quote from: Blueforlife on October 11, 2025, 11:14:33 PMIncredible punt. People wanted him cut. Some say not good enough. Been money.
Holding come on man!
Hahahahahahaha
Quote from: Blueforlife on October 11, 2025, 11:14:33 PMIncredible punt. People wanted him cut. Some say not good enough. Been money.
Holding come on man!
and a shank
ST is a disaster to start. Deferring seems to of been a stupid choice on winning the toss.
D came to play though.
Atta boy Tre, great return on the miss again.
blanchard is on a heater...not anymore
vavs almost took it back
Vaval giving a giant middle finger to Stew every game with the missed FG returns.
I absolutely love it.
Speaking of $
Mr Vaval is nothing short of exceptional
Lock this guy up for life
Deffering is a great choice
Patience
I enjoy every missed FG return now even more
Rest in Peace
These cute O play calls aren't working again. OC stinks
Yes Brady yes!
Our OC is fine
Our O looks fine
Patience
Brady came to play
O is rolling....
turf monster darn
God dammit under thrown by Zac
I think the wind got that ball.
Demski misplayed that. Meh. Almost though. Zach will find him again.
Quote from: J5V on October 11, 2025, 11:27:15 PMDemski misplayed that. Meh. Almost though. Zach will find him again.
Demski was wide open, Zach underthrew it.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 11, 2025, 11:25:28 PMGod dammit under thrown by Zac
I think the wind got that ball.
if he doesn't slip he prob makes it back to the ball. it does look windy too
Demski could have got there.
Explosion plays was ugly
Houston will be nice to have back
Zach threw it to a spot. Demski coulda had it and I'll bet he'd be the first one to say so.
was that lawson's zone ?
Quote from: The Zipp on October 11, 2025, 11:29:40 PMwas that lawson's zone ?
Not 100% sure
Someone screwed up
Quote from: J5V on October 11, 2025, 11:29:30 PMZach threw it to a spot. Demski coulda had it and I'll bet he'd be the first one to say so.
Yup very makeable catch
Take that as incomplete pass I guess and the fg
Demski pass, a little a slipped, a little under thrown, a little windy
Atta boy, Strevie!
Classic Strev play
I like it
Streveler runs like he's wearing slippers on ice. Somehow his legs have become as weird as his arm.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 11, 2025, 11:37:55 PMStreveler runs like he's wearing slippers on ice. Somehow his legs have become as weird as his arm.
How about respecting a guy coming of an injury that ends most careers at his age. Running fine.
Receivers dong a great job getting open and making catches.
Amazing what rolling out Zach can do
Why Hogan wasn't doing this in 1st half of season I dunno
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 11, 2025, 11:37:55 PMStreveler runs like he's wearing slippers on ice. Somehow his legs have become as weird as his arm.
speaking of which here he goes again...
Ugh
Sterns reminds me of Denny
So reliable
Why take out Zach on 4 yard line
Stupid
Glad we got it so we don't have Oshea going for a 6 yard fg
TOUCHDOWN
Great drive overall
The criticism on Strev is over the top
Money all day
Bird Bird Bird
Bird is a word
O no this guy is hurt bad
great drive. zach is dealing, BO is running hard
solid football
Quote from: The Zipp on October 11, 2025, 11:44:07 PMgreat drive. zach is dealing, BO is running hard
solid football
Zach on his game plus BBB = cup win
She windy there in Edmonton
No fans in stands to block it
Cody rattled
need more heat on Faj
Wow, super important game at home with their playoff lives on the line and what is there 2000 fans in the stands?!!! Never knew things were that bad in Edmonton.
Cody finding his Rythym
Nice play calling
Willie effect on that terrible throw by Cody
can't stop the simple hook route
Nobody has got to within three yards of Fajardo on this drive.
Allen will learn from that
Gotta slow down this run game
Boy, Sterns sure is good in the inside. The little guy is now our "big bruiser" :D
interior DL getting man handled again. Thomas does nothing.
Nice stop
Thomas plays his role well, good vet depth rotational cdn at the end of a decent career
Horrible series for the defense. Absolutely brutal. Not sure what any of you are looking at but that was a disaster.
So we get a TD and the D decides to be soft as ****!
the DL looked useless on that one.
DB no coverage as well.
absolutely schooled on this drive
bombers looked terrible
no pressure
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 11, 2025, 11:40:48 PMReceivers dong a great job getting open and making catches.
And guys are coming back for the ball and body-blocking out the DBs. This is how you avoid those giveaway INTs we were throwing earlier in the season.
Nice fake
Did Bombers throw any heat on Cody at all during that drive?
That was embarrassing!! Waltzes into the end zone untouched . Awesome D
Quote from: Sway on October 11, 2025, 11:58:19 PMDid Bombers throw any heat on Cody at all during that drive?
Nope.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 11, 2025, 11:12:18 PMthere was some EE fan I was talking to at the BB tailgate. She said they get 30,000 every game they are just sitting on the camera side of the stadium. I think she was talking BS.
Well, no way they are averaging 30k, but they are correct in that in lightly-attended stadiums the empty seats look worse than they are because everyone is sitting on home side.
They need to heavily discount the visitor side to even out the seating (like SSK does). Otherwise CFL looks like a joke on TV in these stadiums.
Quote from: Sway on October 11, 2025, 11:58:19 PMDid Bombers throw any heat on Cody at all during that drive?
Have they thrown any heat at any QB this year?? Pressure is not in our game plan !!
Quote from: dd on October 11, 2025, 11:58:38 PMThat was embarrassing!! Waltzes into the end zone untouched . Awesome D
Yup Bombers left their jock strap in the locker room that drive
they showed shots of the whole stadium and it isn't massively lopsided in attendance
Quote from: The Zipp on October 12, 2025, 12:01:50 AMthey showed shots of the whole stadium and it isn't massively lopsided in attendance
Elks should have given 2 for 1 sale for this game
Teams generally go as far as their defense can taken them. Our defense ain't taking us anywhere
didn't love that play call on 2nd down
Quote from: dd on October 12, 2025, 12:03:50 AMTeams generally go as far as their defense can taken them. Our defense ain't taking us anywhere
It's a futile experiment to prove what everyone basically already knows: that no pressure will not work.
Quote from: dd on October 12, 2025, 12:03:50 AMTeams generally go as far as their defense can taken them. Our defense ain't taking us anywhere
Our D is good, middle of the pack statistically
Coming off best game of season
Our D taking us to the playoffs
Quote from: The Zipp on October 11, 2025, 11:54:00 PMcan't stop the simple hook route
Cody's specialty. Well, his only ability, actually.
flush that last drive and get a stop
Quote from: dd on October 12, 2025, 12:00:19 AMHave they thrown any heat at any QB this year?? Pressure is not in our game plan !!
First couple drives they stuffed him they did
But ya in general 3 man rush and hope Willie blocks a pass
Garbage DL
That play was there.
Vaval
EE s got screwed there. Lol
bailed out by a bad throw. will take it
No yards.
Hard return
Our DL is not garbage in any way
Willie and Vaughters are great
Woods is decent
Our cdns are consistent
Backups are ok
Stupid challenge, not going to win it
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 11, 2025, 11:56:57 PMHorrible series for the defense. Absolutely brutal. Not sure what any of you are looking at but that was a disaster.
It's the classic SSK-esque dink & dunk. If you execute it's very hard to stop. It's also hard to stop Rankin, who may actually be the best RB right now.
You either need batdowns or pressure or lane-blocking. Otherwise they just eat the zone up 7Y at a time.
But watch out, they are baiting us to play the short game so Cody can get some deep shots, or Rankin can bust one with no 2nd level help.
No yards and roughing the passer being the same penalty..... makes no sense.
Nice play on D
Quote from: The Zipp on October 12, 2025, 12:01:50 AMthey showed shots of the whole stadium and it isn't massively lopsided in attendance
Ya, the drone shot was cool. It's pretty evenly empty tonight. Maybe they have been discounting the visitor side already...
Collaros is getting rushed constantly and Edmonton is still stopping short passes.
We don't have to pretend like it's not possible.
Air ball for the ages
Demski hurt
WTH
Just Bone head move all around.
Amateur hour
All you can do laugh
Collaros has been rushed, hit and punished all half and he throws up a pick.
Cody is going to get seven streamboats alllllll game.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 12:05:35 AMIt's a futile experiment to prove what everyone basically already knows: that no pressure will not work.
Got us all the way to the cup last year! 2024 had even less pressure than now because we didn't have Vaughters yet.
zach - again puts up a prayer and it costs
blitz zach and he folds
demski hurt - hammy
Demski pulling up lame.
Demski hamstring
Demski pulled a muscle oh no
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 12:15:42 AMGot us all the way to the cup last year! 2024 had even less pressure than now because we didn't have Vaughters yet.
Facts are presented above
So far this game looks like EDM just studied how SSK's O beat us 3 times and they are duplicating the schemes.
If we can't stop this approach, we ain't beating SSK in the post-season.
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 12:15:42 AMGot us all the way to the cup last year! 2024 had even less pressure than now because we didn't have Vaughters yet.
And we lost to Toronto and a really aggressive defensive line. Funny you forget to mention that.
There is a god
got away with only 1 point on that interception
The defense is frustrating but not to blame
How they think doing a 3 man rush and hope the receiver drops the ball as their main game plan is shocking though
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 12:18:14 AMAnd we lost to Toronto and a really aggressive defensive line. Funny you forget to mention that.
Changing the narrative, we were talking about our DL, we were talking about our DL
I'm with Techno
Yes TO ate
Cody back in 2023 GC form
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 12, 2025, 12:10:31 AMVaval
EE s got screwed there. Lol
Refs are being super late to blow the whistle though. Should have been called forward progress before the strip.
Quote from: Blueforlife on October 12, 2025, 12:19:07 AMChanging the narrative
I'm with Techno
Yes TO ate
Do you even know what the word narrative means?
Quote from: barbk on October 12, 2025, 12:11:52 AMStupid challenge, not going to win it
Ya, they almost never overturn a NY challenge, either way. Though I think they did the other night. Dude needs to be within 3.5Y to get the overturn, or 6.5Y the other way.
Although with the "new wacky command center" this season, who the heck knows what they will do.
Thank god edmontons kicker sucks, missed 2 easy ones
Quote from: barbk on October 12, 2025, 12:18:45 AMgot away with only 1 point on that interception
Should have scored ourselves though.
Quote from: markf on October 12, 2025, 12:13:50 AMNo yards and roughing the passer being the same penalty..... makes no sense.
Here's how I look at it. On a No Yards, the punt return is wiped out and the penalty is applied from spot the ball was fielded at. In 2025, the average return wiped out on a No Yards penalty is 6 yards. That means that teams only net 9 yards on a No Yards penalty.
Roughing the passer can either wipe out the play or be applied as a deadball foul. When the play is wiped out it is either a sack or an incompletion that is wiped out. If applied as a DBF it is because there was a gain of yards on the play. Either way, roughing the passer nets 15 yards or more for the play.
That's what I hate about TSN.... on halftime... why are they replaying the Vernon Adams interview?
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 12:18:14 AMAnd we lost to Toronto and a really aggressive defensive line. Funny you forget to mention that.
Didn't forget. Simply irrelevant. The proposition was that a no-pressure D can't go anywhere. Getting to the cup with a no pressure D negates that hypothesis. Getting to the cup is itself a sign of success.
And I never said I didn't agree that no pressure sucks -- just dealing with the argument at hand.
Funny thing is, that rouge cost me a huge payday on the tie at the half. I was thrilled the FG was missed, then realized I still lost. Murphy's law. Or something.
Not a very confidence building game...looking at how BC, Calgary and Montreal are playing it seems like the Bombers will be hard pressed to win a playoff game (that is if the Elks dont beat them to the cross-over game).
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 12:29:51 AMDidn't forget. Simply irrelevant. The proposition was that a no-pressure D can't go anywhere. Getting to the cup with a no pressure D negates that hypothesis. Getting to the cup is itself a sign of success.
And I never said I didn't agree that no pressure sucks -- just dealing with the argument at hand.
We were 11-7 last year (1-1 in the playoffs) and we're 8-7 this year
Yay success?
Quote from: barbk on October 12, 2025, 12:29:48 AMThat's what I hate about TSN.... on halftime... why are they replaying the Vernon Adams interview?
I agree. However, it's normal for them to spend 1 of the halftime segments talking about the previous (or next) game -- especially on a double header.
Quote from: barbk on October 12, 2025, 12:18:45 AMgot away with only 1 point on that interception
What I want to know is why our O let that dude run like 50Y back. Why weren't the other RECs sprinting over there? Where's Brady? Hoggies should be forming a wall and also running down the field.
I don't mind the "INT-punt", but the key is at the other side you need to get the INTer down immediately. Looked like keystone cops out there and instantly gave them FG range.
Quote from: barbk on October 12, 2025, 12:29:48 AMThat's what I hate about TSN.... on halftime... why are they replaying the Vernon Adams interview?
Praising God is fine but Vernon's gotta learn how to do an interview, he's been around long enough now .... "MAN"!
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 12:29:51 AMDidn't forget. Simply irrelevant. The proposition was that a no-pressure D can't go anywhere. Getting to the cup with a no pressure D negates that hypothesis. Getting to the cup is itself a sign of success.
And I never said I didn't agree that no pressure sucks -- just dealing with the argument at hand.
Facts are presented above
Agree all
How many of those Zach moon shots to Demski have been picked off this year ? 3?
Poor tackling
demski done till playoffs
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 12:32:50 AMWe were 11-7 last year (1-1 in the playoffs) and we're 8-7 this year
Yay success?
Yes we continue to have success.
Changing the narrative or topic again.
Didn't win the 1st argument and moving the goal posts twice doesn't win you the next two
So we don't get the ball to start the game or the half. I hate this league and its stupid rules sometimes. I guess we get the "wind" in the 4th? :D
Teach that ref what forward progress is
Quote from: Blueforlife on October 12, 2025, 12:37:05 AMYes we continue to have success.
Changing the narrative or topic again.
Didn't win the 1st argument and moving the goal posts twice does win you the next two
Jordan Younger is 19-14 as a defensive coordinator. And it's looking like 19-15.
terrible coaching, terrible defence
schooled
Wind in the 4th could win us the ball game patience will pay off
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
One of the most embarrassing defensive plays I have ever seen.
Horrible.
BRUTAL.
Younger you got fooled!
Pathetic DEFENCE.....
Number 0 is a 0 on that tackle attempt. Nichols looked like he gave up to.
Should have been 3rd and 5
Bombers were sleeping expecting the delay of game draw off side play
Good call Edmonton
So does what we saw with Demski guarantee he's out the rest of the season/postseason with a hammy? This is gonna suck.
Well, now we get to see what Corcoran has, at least for this game. Zach will have to lean on Clercius more, I think.
That was embarrassing.
The defensive front hasn't been able to figure out running backs bending since week one. It's embarrassing. Bombers desperately need fresh eyes because they're missing the obvious. It's a flawed system. With totally unproven an unorthodox logic.
Why is EDM getting the ball to start both halves?
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 12:38:43 AMJordan Younger is 19-14 as a defensive coordinator. And it's looking like 19-15.
That's 3 goal posts moves now
Quote from: The Zipp on October 12, 2025, 12:39:02 AMterrible coaching, terrible defence
schooled
Our coaching is great other than a rookie OC who is learning
Our D is average and shows signs of brilliance
Disagree all
No need to panic imo
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 12:40:50 AMSo does what we saw with Demski guarantee he's out the rest of the season/postseason with a hammy? This is gonna suck.
Well, now we get to see what Corcoran has, at least for this game. Zach will have to lean on Clercius more, I think.
we aren't doctors but hammies are 2-4 weeks depending on severity
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 12:41:32 AMWhy is EDM getting the ball to start both halves?
It's windy
Oshea loves wind
Even though Cody drove it 90 yards into wind for a td
Looked like bombers 26 was held on that rankin td run.
Why was there a phantom whistle right when Rankin crossed the LOS on that explosion? Go check it out. How many of our guys held back due to that?
vavs may have been out cold - the fingers were up like tua
Vaval hurt now
Things are stacking up against us
Will need rest but be ok
Quote from: Blueforlife on October 12, 2025, 12:41:49 AMThat's 3 goal posts moves now
Our coaching is great other than a rookie OC who is learning
Our D is average and shows signs of brilliance
Disagree all
No need to panic imo
This is game SIXTEEN.
Vavals done
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 12:43:15 AMWhy was there a phantom whistle right when Rankin crossed the LOS on that explosion? Go check it out. How many of our guys held back due to that?
I heard that too
The team is NOT good.
Hamilton game created false expectations.
wallace whiffed
Quote from: Ducky on October 12, 2025, 12:39:09 AMHA HA HA HA HA HA HA
One of the most embarrassing defensive plays I have ever seen.
Uh, Rankin has done that to almost every team these last 2 seasons.
Elks just need to give the ball to Rankin.
Bravo OC, nice 2 and out to respond. Both coaches OC and DC don't prepare there players to be successful.
Quote from: J5V on October 12, 2025, 12:34:50 AMPraising God is fine but Vernon's gotta learn how to do an interview, he's been around long enough now .... "MAN"!
I just can't stand the guy,,turned to the leafs game as soon as they started the interview. The guys a deadbeat
They use to call that ineligible receiver down field when the o line is 10 yards past line of scrimmage before throw
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 12:46:00 AMUh, Rankin has done that to almost every team these last 2 seasons.
what is your point? Are giving the defense a pass because of this apparent fact? Wake and smell the reality Tecno. The D stinks again.
Bombers have shown in the past 2 seasons, they can whiff it at anytime...
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 12, 2025, 12:46:25 AMBravo OC and nice 2 and out to respond. Both coaches OC and DC don't prepare there players to be successful.
very conservative
Quote from: Ducky on October 12, 2025, 12:45:06 AMThe team is NOT good.
Hamilton game created false expectations.
We've essentially been about a .500 team (or maybe 6 in 10 win team) since the June 2024.
We get a lot of pats on the back from the dominate teams we had 2021 and 2022 and some of 2023.
Time to re-evaluate.
Riderfans are just loving this game, I bet. Bombers dropping like flies. EDM doesn't care, they'll never make the playoffs, they will gamble and play like there's no tomorrow. We just happen to be the unlucky recipients.
Vaval took a super heavy D guy directly dropping on top of him, probably the ball bruised a rib.
Lawson made a play. Wow
First one this year? :D
Quote from: The Zipp on October 12, 2025, 12:42:02 AMwe aren't doctors but hammies are 2-4 weeks depending on severity
So why has Alexander been out 3/4 of the season with a hammy then? Something doesn't add up... and Demski is much older than Alexander.
"bombers send 3"
is something i dont want to hear anymore e
Edmonton getting a little too cute with 10 o lineman in a formation
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 12:49:03 AMSo why has Alexander been out 3/4 of the season with a hammy then? Something doesn't add up... and Demski is much older than Alexander.
Hamstrings have a wide degree of severity.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 12:41:21 AMThe defensive front hasn't been able to figure out running backs bending since week one. It's embarrassing.
What's embarrassing is that all a team needs to do to beat us at the run game is run it outside. We haven't been able to stop that all season, so everyone does it. Look at every big run against us tonight: outside.
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 12:50:15 AMWhat's embarrassing is that all a team needs to do to beat us at the run game is run it outside. We haven't been able to stop that all season, so everyone does it. Look at every big run against us tonight: outside.
But it's not outside run calls. It's inside runs that running backs bend or bounce when the hole isn't there that kill the scheme.
We've had no answer.
Quote from: Ducky on October 12, 2025, 12:45:06 AMThe team is NOT good.
Hamilton game created false expectations.
We are an average club. The record indicates that. It's about success over the season. Tough game.
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 12:48:04 AMRiderfans are just loving this game, I bet. Bombers dropping like flies. EDM doesn't care, they'll never make the playoffs, they will gamble and play like there's no tomorrow. We just happen to be the unlucky recipients.
Vaval took a super heavy D guy directly dropping on top of him, probably the ball bruised a rib.
What the living hell is wrong with you? Are you trolling us on OUR site?
That is it, I've lost respect for you. Feel free to just ignore me for good now.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 12:49:03 AMSo why has Alexander been out 3/4 of the season with a hammy then? Something doesn't add up... and Demski is much older than Alexander.
he had a hammy...took some games off then blew it again on a td run
We don't have a deep threat receiver, that pass to Wilson was ugly
So now no Demski, no Vaval, hmmm. Not much chance.
Quote from: Sway on October 12, 2025, 12:47:05 AMThey use to call that ineligible receiver down field when the o line is 10 yards past line of scrimmage before throw
Uh oh! I may have another free $100 coming my way! (Pro tip: you're thinking NFL, not CFL)
Lawson made a great play and is a good rotational Canadian
Rankin will burn you, give him credit. One of best players in the league.
Our DC prepares our players well each week. Our OC needs seasoning.
Our deep ball is fine, just not working tonight
Worked well last game
Wheatie will help.
Big stop.
Well I guess we should have given Demski the week off instead of playing him when he's been up all week in a hospital with no practice.
nichols good game today
We are being out kicked
Vaval back in.
Let's stop the doomsday posts everyone. We're still within one TD. It's not all doom and gloom.
Quote from: Sway on October 12, 2025, 12:57:11 AMWell I guess we should have given Demski the week off instead of playing him when he's been up all week in a hospital with no practice.
Absolutely nobody would have done that ever imo
Real easy to say after
Dustin taking a nap mid game here?
Don't forget, these are the Elks. They have a way of self-destructing late in games.
I'm hoping the Demski injury is a hamstring or calf cramp and not a tear of something.
Quote from: Blueforlife on October 12, 2025, 12:57:35 AMWe are being out kicked
She windy though remember
Oshea got that sweet wind in 4th , our secret weapon
Quote from: Jesse on October 12, 2025, 12:57:54 AMVaval back in.
Let's stop the doomsday posts everyone. We're still within one TD. It's not all doom and gloom.
The doom came heavy thanks for saying that
Just how this place operates
Edmonton brings the run blitz into an obvious run call.
Most obvious play call gets stuff. Shocker.
Keep in mind the only reason EDM is up a TD is because they did a desperation gamble to go for it on 3rd & 2 on their own side. Only a team with nothing to lose does that. Just like a a cornered animal can be 10X stronger and deadlier, so can a cornered EDM.
We stuffed the box thinking it was a Rankin inside run, and they just kicked it outside. They knew we would flatten the coverage to the box, and made us pay.
Quote from: Sway on October 12, 2025, 12:58:56 AMShe windy though remember
Oshea got that sweet wind in 4th , our secret weapon
Forgot, good point.
o line has had better games - whiff central
Pathetic OL on the second and short. Out schemed our POS OC.
And that is GOODNIGHT.
Now we have seen it all. Hot potato.
This is just stupid now. ::)
that could be the game!!!
Yep. That's the game
I'm much less optimistic now.
It's still not game. Lots of time left, obviously.
You want to talk about stinking the joint out... it's our OL and Brady. The EDM OL, who are pretty bad, are making big holes for Rankin, and Rankin takes 4 guys to tackle him every time.
Our OL can't make simple 2Y holes for Brady when we need to.
practice falling on the ball guys
elks bounce for sure
season series is in jeopardy
The mighty Edmonton Elks.
Smith screwed that up, tried to catch the ball and run, needed to drop on it. He will learn.
Collaros is not gonna take this team to the promised land
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 01:01:20 AMYou want to talk about stinking the joint out... it's our OL and Brady. The EDM OL, who are pretty bad, are making big holes for Rankin, and Rankin takes 4 guys to tackle him every time.
Our OL can't make simple 2Y holes for Brady when we need to.
So tell us Tecno in your infinite wisdom how are the Rider fans feeling now?
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 01:01:20 AMYou want to talk about stinking the joint out... it's our OL and Brady. The EDM OL, who are pretty bad, are making big holes for Rankin, and Rankin takes 4 guys to tackle him every time.
Our OL can't make simple 2Y holes for Brady when we need to.
OL is getting creamed.
Luck is simply not with us tonight. Absolutely everything is going wrong. That should have been Bomber ball.
Our players will have to dig deep to overcome this, and EDM will be playing with swagger.
Murphy's game.
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 12:49:03 AMSo why has Alexander been out 3/4 of the season with a hammy then? Something doesn't add up... and Demski is much older than Alexander.
Don't quote me but Alexander re-injured his hamstring (hence) being off from week #4 and #5 and returning in week #7 then hurt his hamstring against Toronto on Week #7 last TD with 1 minute to go.
Awesome special teams play
This game is over!!
The teams playoff fate depends on this game and this is what they serve up?? Pathetic.
Bombers play like they are in cement in 3rd quarters all year long
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 01:01:20 AMYou want to talk about stinking the joint out... it's our OL and Brady. The EDM OL, who are pretty bad, are making big holes for Rankin, and Rankin takes 4 guys to tackle him every time.
Our OL can't make simple 2Y holes for Brady when we need to.
Live and die on the back of the OL, good game and now a bad one.
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 01:02:34 AMLuck is simply not with us tonight. Absolutely everything is going wrong. That should have been Bomber ball.
Our players will have to dig deep to overcome this, and EDM will be playing with swagger.
Murphy's game.
Good teams make their own luck. We've been not effective on offense and giving up big plays on defense all game long. The Elks have two field goal misses or this is a blow out.
There is no reason to troll techno. This place is for everyone.
BBB baby.
Brady!
Just give it to Brady on every down.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 12:51:30 AMBut it's not outside run calls. It's inside runs that running backs bend or bounce when the hole isn't there that kill the scheme.
We've had no answer.
We had this discussion in that older thread. If every team can clearly see we are unable to stop the outside runs, then why aren't the scheming to run outside first? You say they are looking for inside holes, but I think half the time they are just sitting "being patient" waiting for us to commit to the box and seal the ends.
You're saying it's serendipity, I'm saying it's designed.
Then we run the ball to Mitchell. You can't make this **** up.
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 01:04:42 AMWe had this discussion in that older thread. If every team can clearly see we are unable to stop the outside runs, then why aren't the scheming to run outside first? You say they are looking for inside holes, but I think half the time they are just sitting "being patient" waiting for us to commit to the box and seal the ends.
You're saying it's serendipity, I'm saying it's designed.
Whatever. It's lousy defense either way.
jet sweeps - waste of a down
Quote from: Go_Big_D on October 12, 2025, 01:02:12 AMCollaros is not gonna take this team to the promised land
Good as chance as any imo
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 12, 2025, 12:52:07 AMWhat the living hell is wrong with you? Are you trolling us on OUR site?
Not sure you're understanding the post, maybe re-read it?
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 01:05:30 AMWhatever. It's lousy defense either way.
Average D statistically and based on what I see.
rtp all day long
Al 157 people in the building are loving this home.
RTP let see if they can exploit that...
Stop doing that play
We don't have another REC as backup now, with Mitchell out too.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 01:05:30 AMWhatever. It's lousy defense either way.
Yeah this one is done like dinner. So do we get a cross over or do we still have 3rd in mind in the West?
Quote from: Go_Big_D on October 12, 2025, 01:02:12 AMCollaros is not gonna take this team to the promised land
Nope, he's not but in his defense we have a second tier receiving corps out there. We have zero offense right now, they ll just focus on shutting Brady down and what other receiver is going to hurt them. We got nobody
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 01:06:02 AMNot sure you're understanding the post, maybe re-read it?
No, you re-read what you posted. Idiotic comment. I give up with you.
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 01:07:09 AMWe don't have another REC as backup now, with Mitchell out too.
What happened?
Zach making more mistakes this half after spending all day running around and getting smacked.
Zach trying his best to throw it to the other team now...
2 ints dropped by edmonton
Zach does have the tendency to throw to the other teams players
Quote from: Go_Big_D on October 12, 2025, 01:08:45 AMZach does have the tendency to throw to the other teams players
Also slings nasty and historically his td to int ratio is excellent
Off today
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 01:08:27 AMZach making more mistakes this half after spending all day running around and getting smacked.
This is true. He has had no time for nothing.
In other news Strevy at receiver is pathetic.
This team is toast!
Does Younger realize whenever he sends only 3 rushers we get burned EVERY SINGLE TIME.
I think these coaches are throwing the game.
The defense that sits back and waits for the offense to make a mistake needs to make a play on the ball for once
Have we hit Fajardo in the pocket even once this game? Honestly asking.
I can't believe there are people who think that can work.
No we haven't. Cody could play until he's 60 against our pass rush. It's truly embarrassing
Ya, they aren't bouncing the RB outside on purpose... ::) ::) ::) ::)
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 01:13:35 AMYa, they aren't bouncing the RB outside on purpose... ::) ::) ::) ::)
Nope just thought of you
Can you help the coaches, tin foil a play call in lol
They need to know
Ham radio? Lol
Quote from: Blueforlife on October 12, 2025, 01:11:46 AMThere is no place on this forum for trolling and calling. Ignore him techno.
This team is far from toast. We are still in this game and have a shot at 2nd. We are likely playoff bound.
No one reads your posts. You are wasting your time.
Quote from: Blueforlife on October 12, 2025, 01:01:52 AMSmith screwed that up, tried to catch the ball and run, needed to drop on it. He will learn.
Except MOS has said in many pressers that they coach them to NOT drop on it. They are coached to pick it up to get yards. Our players did what they were coached to do. Maybe instead we should coach them to drop on it when there's 100 players in the same spot.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 01:12:00 AMHave we hit Fajardo in the pocket even once this game? Honestly asking.
I can't believe there are people who think that can work.
first or second series we got some heat..
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 01:13:35 AMYa, they aren't bouncing the RB outside on purpose... ::) ::) ::) ::)
That one was the play design but yep. Same thing. Same result.
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 01:14:57 AMExcept MOS has said in many pressers that they coach them to NOT drop on it. They are coached to pick it up to get yards. Our players did what they were coached to do. Maybe instead we should coach them to drop on it when there's 100 players in the same spot.
Didn't know that!
Quote from: The Zipp on October 12, 2025, 01:15:00 AMfirst or second series we got some heat..
Then we went 3 man rush
Wow, why does every team have great blocking on screens and hitches and outs except for us? Just look at EDM, MTL, SSK's pass blocking.
You think can get more drumming in on the audio? :D
A Fajardo hit! TSN replay confirmed :D
Quote from: BBRT on October 12, 2025, 01:07:16 AMYeah this one is done like dinner. So do we get a cross over or do we still have 3rd in mind in the West?
Uh if we lose this one, especially by the magic number, we may not even make the crossover.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 12, 2025, 01:16:29 AMYou think can get more drumming in on the audio? :D
pretty good drum line though
Quote from: Blueforlife on October 12, 2025, 01:07:56 AMWhat happened?
He was walking off the field with help. Maybe he's back in now, dunno, we'll see.
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 01:18:00 AMHe was walking off the field with help. Maybe he's back in now, dunno, we'll see.
Jesus
tom gazolla likes the hair mousse
Hey TSN there is a game on you know.
Shut up Lapo
Quote from: The Zipp on October 12, 2025, 01:19:20 AMtom gazolla likes the hair mousse
He grows a solid crop.
On that play why even start OL. It is like they aren't plying with any. No one can block anyone.
heat on zach never stops
o line is terrible
chris ike-smith whiff
Hey, isn't that Ford on Brady tackle a low hit during reception, which is illegal this season?
Way to take knees out there Ford you overpaid foo.
Nice adjustments by the Elks, same old same old for the bombers. No urgency in our game
Quote from: The Zipp on October 12, 2025, 01:21:21 AMheat on zach never stops
o line is terrible
chris ike-smith whiff
It's amazing that the coaches can watch game film like this and then conclude that we're going to drop 9 all game against next week.
It makes no sense.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 12, 2025, 01:19:27 AMHey TSN there is a game on you know.
Shut up Lapo
was by thinking the same thing about lapo
annoys me
break on the penalty - kinda weak
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 01:22:45 AMIt's amazing that the coaches can watch game film like this and then conclude that we're going to drop 9 all game against next week.
It makes no sense.
it makes no sense.
Didn't need another bomb there
Get a 3
I would put Strev in
Well, that's the game.
really bad throw by zach
he has been bad today apart from the first few series
That is game.
Maybe you can't blame Zach with all his head trauma.
He isn't seeing the game like before.
Like I said. TOAST!
c mon zach... r u color blind
Waiting eagerly for the Zach apologists this game....
OMG is this on ZC or the OC play calling?
Soundly and thoroughly beaten by a 6-9 team. Results speak for themselves. Defense terrible. Offense bad. Zach beaten up.
Zach is back... to his old ways. This is depressing.
Quote from: barbk on October 12, 2025, 01:25:55 AMOMG is this on ZC or the OC play calling?
Combo 75% Zach imo
Edmonton needs to win by 14 for season series
Hand it to Sherrit & the EDM D. Except for the 1st Q, they are predicting every single play call. When we run, they have the box stuffed. When we throw deep, they have everyone double covered. When we throw mid they have the LBers dropping back to INT.
And when Zach needs time they bring 4-6 and get home to Zach. Even when they don't touch him they are shrinking that pocket down to a millimeter.
So many times this season we haven't been able to out-chess anyone. It's a brain thing, not a brawn thing.
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 01:21:49 AMHey, isn't that Ford on Brady tackle a low hit during reception, which is illegal this season?
That was a cheap hit and CC dinged him 15 yards. Sad the 7 officials on the field let that go but heck it's cfl officiating !!
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 01:26:01 AMSoundly and thoroughly beaten by a 6-9 team.
They'll be 7-9 and we'll be 8-8.
It's not like we've been a juggernaut all season.
Bad Zach is back
Dirty hit
Quote from: Jesse on October 12, 2025, 01:26:57 AMThey'll be 7-9 and we'll be 8-8.
It's not like we've been a juggernaut all season.
Coaching staff needs some humility pie.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 01:26:01 AMSoundly and thoroughly beaten by a 6-9 team. Results speak for themselves. Defense terrible. Offense bad. Zach beaten up.
In every phase of the game no less. Out coaches, out schemed, coming off an extra week of preparation no less.
Allen can't catch a ball.
can't lose by more than 13
Allen will be a star
Props to Allen for not following his assignment of 3 man rush and making a play on ball
Incredible catch by Vaval
Tucker Wetmore LOL
Nice name
Quote from: Sway on October 12, 2025, 01:27:01 AMBad Zach is back
Reminds me of Hellybuyck for the Jets.... which goalie we getting for the game!!!
gotta get some points here
I don't see Mitchell in
Need a TD. field goal does nothin.
TOUCHDOWN
Quote from: dd on October 12, 2025, 01:26:53 AMThat was a cheap hit and CC dinged him 15 yards. Sad the 7 officials on the field let that go but heck it's cfl officiating !!
Refs often have trouble with the newest rules. This one was instantly obvious though -- at least obvious enough that someone needed to check the tape.
Luck be a lady tonight
Wow Wilson wow
Gotta be play of the year.
Amazing catch on what should have been another interception. Zach ain't got the arm
that was sick!!!!
that's a catch - amazing
Another under thrown moon shot
Td
Go Blue
We back
We got the fluke punt return back.
Toughest catch I've ever seen.
Catch of the year if there's such a thing.
But yeah Zach has had his good game.... . His arm strength is not what it was.
Quote from: The Zipp on October 12, 2025, 01:32:42 AMthat's a catch - amazing
Will never happen again like that
Amazing
Craziest TD I've ever seen.
(Another complete miss by Zach tho. It was an easy catch that he threw too late).
Quote from: BlueInCgy on October 12, 2025, 01:32:36 AMAmazing catch on what should have been another interception. Zach ain't got the arm
He did last week
Well, finally Murphy gives us some luck. It was all against us until this point.
That will be a top-10 CFL highlight play for the next 20 years. Good job, Pokey.
Zach: badly underthrown again -- throw it earlier!!
O Lord....now its up to the defence
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 01:33:55 AMWell, finally Murphy gives us some luck. It was all against us until this point.
That will be a top-10 CFL highlight play for the next 20 years. Good job, Pokey.
Zach: badly underthrown again -- throw it earlier!!
He is hesitant yes
What a play by Wilson! Gotta be a Bomber TD of the year candidate. Great to get the points but I'll still be surprised if they pull off a win...
Kick coverage trash
We've had league top-3 ST coverage all season, but in this game we're letting them get to the 50 every time? What's up with that?
Now ST takes a turn being crappy.
Quote from: BlueInCgy on October 12, 2025, 01:35:26 AMLast week was the bye but keep it up PJ
You know what I meant
Last week we played, yes 2 weeks ago
No need to be like that
Quote from: Blueforlife on October 12, 2025, 01:33:45 AMHe did last week
Yes... he did... one game. Father Time etc.
EEs will run it outside here...
Nice play Parker
Almost almost
Parker nicked?
Parker playing inspired
Gives him 15 yard cushion
Finally makes a play on ball
85 yards to win the game...
That kick was great
Mitchell on returns
Vaval hurt?
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 12, 2025, 01:36:44 AMEEs will run it outside here...
They should have. Why do they risk passing? Rankin can get 10 in 2 tries every single new 1st. Weird.
I expect EDM to figure this out and go back to run-mostly.
Quote from: Sway on October 12, 2025, 01:38:17 AMParker playing inspired
Gives him 15 yard cushion
Finally makes a play on ball
In fairness to Parker, you kind of need to in this defense because you need to cover for 9 seconds a play. Pump and go is the next thing there because they'll have the time.
See how useless our screen blocking is? Every other team gets 5+ every other screen. We get stuffed 90% of the time.
Bomber training Staff letting players go in and play when they are concussed and Injured has to be a story
Fifo
Brady was open there shoot
Uh Brady, you need to make that catch regardless. And that's why you want a REC downfield and not a RB. Pokey would have adjusted.
If Zach put a touch more air on it, it's a catch
need more air on that ball
Why is Kelly out there?
Not liking how this is going.
Quote from: The Zipp on October 12, 2025, 01:41:22 AMneed more air on that ball
he is just a poor punter. That is massive field position Given up.
Quote from: Sway on October 12, 2025, 01:40:01 AMBomber training Staff letting players go in and play when they are concussed and Injured has to be a story
Who's concussed?
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 01:39:58 AMSee how useless our screen blocking is? Every other team gets 5+ every other screen. We get stuffed 90% of the time.
Nobody there at all to help him. Two guys fifteen yards away, and a pack of guys other side of the field.
Yeah, all season it's been that way.
Zach doesn't have the arm to throw the deep ball, Brady WIDE open under thrown
Our punter is average and very consistent.
Quote from: Blueforlife on October 12, 2025, 01:43:01 AMWhere was he playing?
Just saw him heading out onto the field after the bomber punt
Willie's been very quiet.
Vaughters saved the day again. So many of our D give up when behind the play.
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 01:42:56 AMWho's concussed?
Vaval, earlier. Obviously banged up hard
Not sure why Mitchell returned punts now
Quote from: dd on October 12, 2025, 01:43:34 AMZach doesn't have the arm to throw the deep ball, Brady WIDE open under thrown
he keeps wiggling his shoulder around after throws like he has a nicked shoulder.
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 01:44:19 AMWillie's been very quiet.
Yep
Doing his assignment on 3 man rush , yawn
ZC we have 1:55 to go.... nickle dime the D
Ike with the big play!! That's what I like to see. Shades of Mike Miller.
Next throw to Tui!!
Is it 3 down territory? Might the season series be more important than win?
Just the wrong throw. Ugh
zach had corcoran wide open for the first down
Fitting
Why, Why what a stupid play
Well, now we risk the season series as well as the win.
Worst play call ever seen need 4 throw 40
Awful play call and/or decision twice in a row.
Zach throwing up his DPI prayer throws
Pathetic, no chance, attempt.
holy crow - what a terrible decision to throw that pass
PATHETIC play calling and performance
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 01:47:50 AMIs it 3 down territory? Might the season series be more important than win?
Agree I would have considered punting
Quote from: barbk on October 12, 2025, 01:48:48 AMWhy, Why what a stupid play
I like the BOLD, but you need to out-think them. There wasn't any thought on that one.
We needed 4 yards to get a first down. What was this garbage on second and third down? Unreal.
3d and four and they call a long pass? Qb arm is sa bit sketchy?
Fire that guy that called that play.
Throw the check down and get a new series of plays. Horrible play call
Hogan needs to be gone tomorrow morning
Nice play lawson
Hogan and his stupid sun glasses can be blasted to the moon.
The last time the Bombers ran the ball Brady gained 11 yards for a first down. That was with 12 minutes left in the game. There hasn't been a run attempt by the Bombers since then. You gotta love that Younger game calling.
Hey we got the season series atleast :-\
Why didn't we call a timeout! Clock running!
Edmonton should go for it here. Go for long bomb.
Why was that clock running to 9sec? Why didn't we take a timout!!
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 01:52:06 AMWhy was that clock running to 9sec? Why didn't we take a timout!!
Used it before 3 min warning
I guess we have another one ? Whoops
crossover is what the bombers want
Quote from: BlueInCgy on October 12, 2025, 01:50:33 AMHogan needs to be gone tomorrow morning
Hard no, bad play calling yes
We deserve to lose and we need to do some self evaluation. It ain't working guys. Offensive playcalling once again an issue. Defense that is so painfully easy to play against. Can't get turnovers. Can't protect Zach.
Lose 9 times out for 10.
Can't wait for the throttling from the riders next week... ::) This team is cooked sadly.
okay so get the ))(**( out of bounds with that .... why would Mitchell stay in bounds like that... we deserve to lose this game
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on October 12, 2025, 01:49:49 AMWe needed 4 yards to get a first down. What was this garbage on second and third down? Unreal.
Well, it was literally our first deep shot that wasn't double-covered. So there's that.
Don't know why you pick a 40 yarder though. A 20 like MTL did in that GC would have sufficed.
Also, if the whole game and season is on the line, why isn't Pokey trying harder on the route?
i really think the bombers want the crossover
Quote from: blueandgoldguy on October 12, 2025, 01:51:53 AMEdmonton should go for it here. Go for long bomb.
Quote from: Blueforlife on October 12, 2025, 01:52:58 AMHard no, bad play calling yes
His job is to call the plays. He sucks at it. But sure let's keep around what's obviously not working. Maybe we can bring Matt Nichols, Terrence Edwards, and Chris Walby out of retirement next year too.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on October 12, 2025, 01:53:49 AMCan't wait for the throttling from the riders next week... ::) This team is cooked sadly.
Can't see we beat them bushies in any way.
Maybe we really are keen on the crossover? I guess there is a chance Alexander hurts that hammy again, so there's that.
Quote from: BlueInCgy on October 12, 2025, 01:54:58 AMHis job is to call the plays. He sucks at it. But sure let's keep around what's obviously not working. Maybe we can bring Matt Nichols, Terrence Edwards, and Chris Walby out of retirement next year too.
Terrible time to fire a coach. Sure way to sabotage the season.
Quote from: BlueInCgy on October 12, 2025, 01:54:58 AMHis job is to call the plays. He sucks at it. But sure let's keep around what's obviously not working. Maybe we can bring Matt Nichols, Terrence Edwards, and Chris Walby out of retirement next year too.
Maybe they can convince Blink to return to and haul the mail.
Quote from: Sway on October 12, 2025, 01:51:35 AMHey we got the season series atleast :-\
Yup, but there goes any 2nd and probably 3rd in the W. Crossover or bust.
And we almost handed EDM the season series by going for it on 3rd.
If Demski is out the rest of the season, I don't see how we win anything in the post-season. He's literally our top REC since Schoen went down. What a time for his body to give out.
Bauming going to be feeling sad.
Strong Collaros supporter.
just the opposite of the Hamilton game . Edmonton came with much more intensity.
Collaros reading of defenses very poor
Hogans playcalling was bad, again it seems like we have no gameplan for opposing defences, we just do what we always do
Mitchell invisible once more
Jefferson didn't do a thing all game
only good thing is we didn't lose the season series by point differential
With Calgary winning we weren't going to have a home game in the playoffs, maybe we're hoping Hamiltion will drop to second in the east.
Quote from: Blueforlife on October 12, 2025, 01:56:30 AMTerrible time to fire a coach. Sure why to sabotage the season.
He should have been fired weeks ago. He absolutely positively is an unmitigated failure at his job.
Why wouldn't Edmonton have tried to convert on third down? If they were to score a TD and get a 2-pt convert (to win by 13 instead of 5), they'd both split the season series with the Bombers, but also score the same number of points when combining both games. Then, so long as they win one more game in the remaining two (either going 2-0 and the Bombers 1-1, or 1-1 and the Bombers 0-2), they'd have a chance to sneak into the playoffs by way of complicated tie-breaker math?
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 01:57:11 AMYup, but there goes any 2nd and probably 3rd in the W. Crossover or bust.
And we almost handed EDM the season series by going for it on 3rd.
If Demski is out the rest of the season, I don't see how we win anything in the post-season. He's literally our top REC since Schoen went down. What a time for his body to give out.
We're not making it anywhere in the playoffs if we get there.
Pathetic. Out coached, out played. I'll take the win on the points spread. That should get us into the playoffs but we weren't ready to play IMO.
Let Jarious call plays already and while you're at it can someone ask Richie Hall what he thinks about going through half the season without even trying to attack the quarterback? It's beyond stupid already.
We have a coaching staff in love with their own ideas no matter the result.
Quote from: BlueInCgy on October 12, 2025, 01:58:23 AMHe should have been fired weeks ago. He absolutely positively is an unmitigated failure at his job.
He truly sucks and it's maddening to have to watch this crap. But MOS won't fire him he's one of his boys so we will continue to suffer
Fajardo with the rah rah interview.... good luck winning the rest of your games Elks (keep dreaming)
Quote from: barbk on October 12, 2025, 02:01:13 AMFajardo with the rah rah interview.... good luck winning the rest of your games Elks (keep dreaming)
He is so unlikable. Can't stand him.
Quote from: BlueInCgy on October 12, 2025, 01:59:25 AMWe're not making it anywhere in the playoffs if we get there.
Not with more injuries we're not. However, if fully healthy I think we can start pulling it together like in the HAM game. Only 2 post-season games to win to get to the cup.
My hope springs eternal.
Let's all keep in mind that EDM is playing their season-best ball right now. They do have great players on paper (no, not Cody).
Quote from: BlueInCgy on October 12, 2025, 01:58:23 AMHe should have been fired weeks ago. He absolutely positively is an unmitigated failure at his job.
Challenging season, not bad enough to fire and that outcome brings nothing but chaos this late. We just laid an egg. Had a great game last week. That's what we are average.
Quote from: Sway on October 12, 2025, 01:52:42 AMUsed it before 3 min warning
I guess we have another one ? Whoops
Yup, we had another timeout, and if we stop it at 30s we have a chance at a decent return and 3-4 pass plays to win the game.
I have no idea how MOS screwed this up.
I thought Edmonton would be a little more aggressive on that last drive and quicker on snaps. Try to get the TD in the dying seconds and attempt the 2 point conversion. If they did that, they would have had a 13 point differential and tied on points differential on the season with the Bombers (Bombers won previous game by 13). I'm not sure what the tiebreaker would be if the teams say tied for the crossover and the point differential was 0? Divisional record?
I did expect the Bombers to lose that game so not surprised at the final result but boy was that ugly. Only positive is the Bombers need only one win or one Edmonton loss to clinch the playoff spot. Staying within their division in third or second place is now out of their hands.
No excuse not to beat Saskatchewan next week at home (or Montreal at home the following week as they will likely be stuck with second place following the outcome of next week's games). Harris will likely be resting the entire game and I would expect a large portion of the starters of Saskatchewan to be either rested or taken out for half the game or more.
Quote from: Cool Spot on October 12, 2025, 01:58:46 AMWhy wouldn't Edmonton have tried to convert on third down?
Because if they blew it we'd be in decent position for a potential win. I think EDM made the right move. They got the W.
I'm not sure either HC was cognizant of the season series issue!! Which is a bit shocking.
Quote from: The Zipp on October 12, 2025, 01:52:53 AMcrossover is what the bombers want
I have no idea why they would. Montreal with Alexander starting will likely destroy the Bombers. I think he is quietly the second best QB in the league.
Bombers pull out their patented Grey Cup loser performance strategy game plan from 2022-2024 a little early.
Favorited.
Sit back.
Hope the other team will beat them selves so we don't really have to do anything
In the end
Lose
We know who the obvious culprits are. But when the entire team is not very good, that falls on coaching and (mis)management. Changes in the works for next season, for sure.
Quote from: blueandgoldguy on October 12, 2025, 02:05:05 AMI have no idea why they would. Montreal with Alexander starting will likely destroy the Bombers. I think he is quietly the second best QB in the league.
Second??
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on October 12, 2025, 01:53:49 AMCan't wait for the throttling from the riders next week... ::) This team is cooked sadly.
No excuse not to win that game with Riders likely resting at least a few or several starters for a good portion or the entirety of the game. Harris has had shoulder problems for a number of weeks, so it would be shocking to play him in a nothing game. If he and others need some playing time prior to the playoffs, they will likely let him play a little in the final game of the season
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 02:03:15 AMYup, we had another timeout, and if we stop it at 30s we have a chance at a decent return and 3-4 pass plays to win the game.
I have no idea how MOS screwed this up.
Good call.
I'm sure he will never have to answer it , and if he is ever asked he will justify it..... some how
Well that wasn't fun
Hopefully my oil can cheer me up a bit
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 02:00:14 AMWe have a coaching staff in love with their own ideas no matter the result.
Get pressure with who, though? The ideas were used to pick the roster. That's all set in stone now. Basically was before week 1. We've married scheme & roster and you can't uncouple the two. Especially not now.
Maybe you can rethink the whole thing in next FA. And they might if this novel approach fails to take us deep in the playoffs. If we get to the cup again, we likely stick with the crazy concepts though, so you better pray we fail early and often!
Quote from: Sway on October 12, 2025, 02:06:00 AMHope the other team will beat them selves so we don't really have to do anything
This is precisely what SSK has done all season. Just sit back and wait for mistakes. SSK's D helps with that. Man is their O bad though. Heaven help them if they fall far behind.
SSK has become what we were a few years back. We've become... hmm, not sure.
When trade deadline came around and we did NOTHING to improve our team again for the playoffs, would that be Walters or MOS
If this team plays with any sort of energy they could be the first cross over team to make the Cup.
They look just so slow in 3rd quarter again and again
Another stupid Zach throw before half for the interception.
They should start dressing in the visitor dressing room now 8)
Quote from: Sway on October 12, 2025, 02:12:40 AMIf this team plays with any sort of energy they could be the first cross over team to make the Cup.
We've had a major lack of physicality all season. We look downtrodden half the time. No one jacked up, except once in a blue moon.
Look at how EDM was laying the wood on us all game. I don't recall any wood laid on a single EDM player.
There's some sort of lack of focus and morale right now, when it should be the highest. I'm not sure they'll be able just turn it on come the post-season. They sure didn't turn it on for the '24 GC!
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 02:10:05 AMGet pressure with who, though? The ideas were used to pick the roster. That's all set in stone now. Basically was before week 1. We've married scheme & roster and you can't uncouple the two. Especially not now.
Maybe you can rethink the whole thing in next FA. And they might if this novel approach fails to take us deep in the playoffs. If we get to the cup again, we likely stick with the crazy concepts though, so you better pray we fail early and often!
When you rush three there's two double teams every passing down. No one could be successful in getting pressure with this scheme up front. We might as well drop 11 every passing down.
And It doesn't help that one of the players is Jake Thomas who is universally embarassing at this point.
Quote from: Blue72 on October 12, 2025, 02:12:21 AMWhen trade deadline came around and we did NOTHING to improve our team again for the playoffs, would that be Walters or MOS
Both. KW gets the final word, but MOS would tell him what he needs, and MOS could just bench whoever KW hired if he didn't like the choice!
The key is hoping for no big injuries in this final stretch. Demski going down kinda spoils that though.
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 02:07:03 AMSecond??
Yes, that's what I said. Second best. He has very limited time as a starter, but I like what I see from him. Good arm and he is great whenever he has to move out of the pocket, whether that is running it or throwing it. I like him better than Mitchell. Rourke is better than both. Harris...pffffft, forget about him. Decent QB but not great.
If Kelly is back next year, and has fully recovered, he may slot ahead of Alexander. Strongest arm in the league imo.
willie - invisible
jake thomas - invisible
Quote from: blueandgoldguy on October 12, 2025, 02:07:55 AMNo excuse not to win that game with Riders likely resting at least a few or several starters for a good portion or the entirety of the game. Harris has had shoulder problems for a number of weeks, so it would be shocking to play him in a nothing game. If he and others need some playing time prior to the playoffs, they will likely let him play a little in the final game of the season
I agree with you but I don't have the faith in the team at this point to win against their backups- especially if Demski and Vaval are out. The rider backups will have something to prove. I would really like to be wrong but I don't have a good feeling about next week...
Jake Thomas has 9 tackles on the season. Three tackles in his last seven games and none since September 6. Four straight games without a stat.
Lawson had four tackles tonight.
Woods had three tackles tonight.
The guy has become a pylon and a symptom of flawed decision making by the coaching staff.
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 02:12:00 AMThis is precisely what SSK has done all season. Just sit back and wait for mistakes. SSK's D helps with that. Man is their O bad though. Heaven help them if they fall far behind.
SSK has become what we were a few years back. We've become... hmm, not sure.
We ve become hard to watch!!
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 02:16:54 AMWhen you rush three there's two double teams every passing down. No one could be successful in getting pressure with this scheme up front. We might as well drop 11 every passing down.
Ya sure, but most of the season when we bring 4 DL it has the same result. So, like you said, why bother? I guess you need at least 3 to try to have some sort of contain, or the QB can just scramble for 8Y every down.
The limitation isn't bringing 3 or 4, it's the quality of the DL, and that's a direct function of $$ spent. We probably spend half on our DL roster compared to the better-DL teams. Maybe less.
It's all tied together. And it's one huge multi-season (2? 3?) experiment. '24 succeeded. '25... not looking good so far.
There is no way to prove it but I wonder if Demski's injury is the result of extra tine for the bye and not practising at all? Doesn't really matter. what matters is will he be able to play again this year.
I understand the desire to win the game but thought going for it on 3rd down with a bomb was a bad idea all around. At that point accept the loss and don't give the Elks a chance to win the point spread. In theory a TD and 2 point convert would have cancelled that Bomber advantage.
We had some really bad bounces go against us and a couple like the Wilson TD go our way.
That said, we couldn't stop the run and letting a 3rd and 2 yards convert for a 65 yard TD. YIKES. That's as bad as it gets.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 02:22:14 AMJake Thomas has 9 tackles on the season. Three tackles in his last seven games and none since September 6. Four straight games without a stat.
I think we held Fatboi into this season to impart his vet wisdom onto the younger guys and so Jake can see/play the home GC.
I'm Fatboi's biggest fan, and even I'm now pretty sure this is his last season. Lawson is good enough to take over his spot. And maybe we can put a monster IMP DT in that other spot next year.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 02:22:14 AMJake Thomas has 9 tackles on the season. Three tackles in his last seven games and none since September 6. Four straight games without a stat.
Wow, I don't care what your argument is that is an ugly ugly stats. Nothing in 4 games!! We get what we deserve at this point in time. I don't even want to post on this anymore. Sickening.
our talent level and corresponding spot in the standings has taken a big drop - walters and MOS have to take responsibility for this. we have regressed this season...talent has gotten older, slower and less impactful
fat n sassy - believing the good water would just flow and it hasn't.
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 02:22:48 AMYa sure, but most of the season when we bring 4 DL it has the same result. So, like you said, why bother? I guess you need at least 3 to try to have some sort of contain, or the QB can just scramble for 8Y every down.
The limitation isn't bringing 3 or 4, it's the quality of the DL, and that's a direct function of $$ spent. We probably spend half on our DL roster compared to the better-DL teams. Maybe less.
It's all tied together. And it's one huge multi-season (2? 3?) experiment. '24 succeeded. '25... not looking good so far.
We don't have the players to run a three man rush either.
At least running four gives your best players chances at one on ones. Right now they have no chance.
Quote from: Blue In BC on October 12, 2025, 02:24:11 AMThat said, we couldn't stop the run and letting a 4rd and 2 yards convert for a 65 yard TD. YIKES. That's as bad as it gets.
I really hate it when teams convert on 4rd down. ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 02:25:11 AMI think we held Fatboi into this season to impart his vet wisdom onto the younger guys and so Jake can see/play the home GC.
I'm Fatboi's biggest fan, and even I'm now pretty sure this is his last season. Lawson is good enough to take over his spot. And maybe we can put a monster IMP DT in that other spot next year.
Next year is next year and we need to worry about this year. Once again we have the option to add Adams back onto the AR and delete someone. The choices would be Ayers or Person.
Not sure what happens this week if Houston gets added. Lawson is playing fairly well and as I've suggested could roll into Griffin's role with one of the other DI's coming off.
I wonder if Wheatfall will be ready for the next game. Once again we got squat from Mitchell. On taerget and catch for zero yards.
Once Demski went out our offence got even worse.
Quote from: Blue In BC on October 12, 2025, 02:24:11 AMThere is no way to prove it but I wonder if Demski's injury is the result of extra tine for the bye and not practising at all? Doesn't really matter. what matters is will he be able to play again this year.
And he's a new (second time) dad for a few days? He's probably majorly dehydrated and sleep deprived.
I guess that answers the "new dad mojo" question they put to him in his presser yesterday. I've been there... twice. Unless your wife does 100% of it (which mine didn't, LOL), being a new dad is a complete disaster from a dad-health standpoint.
On the upshot, Demski talking to MOS didn't look like he (either!) was too po faced. So it may not be anything big.
The bad thing about this season is every time someone gets a big injury it's one of our stars. Why Schoen and not Mitchell? Why Demski and not Corcoran? I don't want the "lesser" guys hurt either, but if you had to choose...
Quote from: Blue In BC on October 12, 2025, 02:28:43 AMNot sure what happens this week if Houston gets added. Lawson is playing fairly well and as I've suggested could roll into Griffin's role with one of the other DI's coming off.
Parker also did very well today. (Though was he looking like he might be tweaking injuries again?)
If Parker is 100% healthy, I'm thinking long & hard about starting him instead of Allen or Lawson. MOS does give extra credit to the longtime vets.
Quote from: Blue In BC on October 12, 2025, 02:32:11 AMI wonder if Wheatfall will be ready for the next game. Once again we got squat from Mitchell. On taerget and catch for zero yards.
Once Demski went out our offence got even worse.
Mitchell has been a total bust. We replaced lawler with this guy?? Really?? He's not even a #3 receiver let alone #1, what on earth was Walter's thinking?? We have never recovered from losing lawler and won't until we spend some $$ and get a true #1 receiver back here
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 02:35:47 AMParker also did very well today. (Though was he looking like he might be tweaking injuries again?)
If Parker is 100% healthy, I'm thinking long & hard about starting him instead of Allen or Lawson. MOS does give extra credit to the longtime vets.
Lawson earned his retention for next TC but Parker probably gets the nod for the rest of this season due to time put in and leadership. Depending how the cookie crumbles in the off-season and who they might lose, Lawson has a good chance of becoming a starter. I think Vaval will prosper as a fulltime returner with occasional backup DB duty. Bye-bye Logan, sorry he didn't get a better chance to make his mark.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 12, 2025, 02:50:54 AMLawson earned his retention for next TC but Parker probably gets the nod for the rest of this season due to time put in and leadership. Depending how the cookie crumbles in the off-season and who they might lose, Lawson has a good chance of becoming a starter. I think Vaval will prosper as a fulltime returner with occasional backup DB duty. Bye-bye Logan, sorry he didn't get a better chance to make his mark.
Neither Lawson or Parker are great and it probably wouldn't be hard to upgrade either or both next year. It's also true that both of those guys would look better in a system that asked less of them also.
Quote from: dd on October 12, 2025, 02:41:54 AMMitchell has been a total bust. We replaced lawler with this guy?? Really?? He's not even a #3 receiver let alone #1, what on earth was Walter's thinking?? We have never recovered from losing lawler and won't until we spend some $$ and get a true #1 receiver back here
Not going to blame any receivers when Zach plays terribly, under throws deep shots and throws to guys already covered by the time he releases the ball. Having trouble converting second and ten? Maybe don't throw 40 yard in-completions on 1st down consecutively series after series in desperation to move the ball.
He had over a half to get his act together and came up impotent, other than one fluke TD to Pokey. At this point he's ripping the team off for $600K+ per season, they have to find a way to get out of that contract and move on before next season.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 03:03:38 AMNeither Lawson or Parker are great and it probably wouldn't be hard to upgrade either or both next year.
But only internally/scouting. We never spring for a big $ DB, not for 4 seasons at least.
We're the ones who let big DBs walk to other teams for more $.
That said, we can usually scout a good one once a year.
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 03:09:04 AMBut only internally/scouting. We never spring for a big $ DB, not for 4 seasons at least. We're the ones who let big DBs walk to other teams for more $.
That said, we can usually scout a good one once a year.
I'd say the jury is still out on whether we can scout corners under JY's scheme. Houston is probably good enough and Ford last year was just so much more athletic than anyone this year but outside of that I'm really not sure. When you have to cover for as long as those guys do I really don't know what to scout for.
You need Champ Bailey and Darrelle Revis in their prime.
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 03:09:04 AMBut only internally/scouting. We never spring for a big $ DB, not for 4 seasons at least. We're the ones who let big DBs walk to other teams for more $.
That said, we can usually scout a good one once a year.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 12, 2025, 03:07:27 AMNot going to blame any receivers when Zach plays terribly, under throws deep shots and throws to guys already covered by the time he releases the ball. Having trouble converting second and ten? Maybe don't throw 40 yard in-completions on 1st down consecutively series after series in desperation to move the ball.
He had over a half to get his act together and came up impotent, other than one fluke TD to Pokey. At this point he's ripping the team off for $600K+ per season, they have to find a way to get out of that contract and move on before next season.
Ya he's not MOP $600 k Zach more like middle of the road $450k Zach and pick a spot where you want to deploy the $$ saved-DT, #1 WR, O line
Quote from: dd on October 12, 2025, 02:41:54 AMMitchell has been a total bust. We replaced lawler with this guy?? Really?? He's not even a #3 receiver let alone #1, what on earth was Walter's thinking??
I think the idea was to replace Lawler with Dalton Schoen, and then spend the money elsewhere. However, with Schoen being injured so often, the plan didn't work out.
Honestly: Bombers 8-8 record flatters them. Also, Elks obviously are better than their 7-9 record. Also, hate losing to Fajardo.
When was the last time that the two teams that played in Grey Cup the previous year didn't make the playoffs.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 12, 2025, 02:50:54 AMBye-bye Logan, sorry he didn't get a better chance to make his mark.
He will now with Vavel being injured this game.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on October 12, 2025, 02:02:30 AMHe is so unlikable. Can't stand him.
Me to, but I want him as our QB next year anyway.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 03:13:19 AMI'd say the jury is still out on whether we can scout corners under JY's scheme. Houston is probably good enough and Ford last year was just so much more athletic than anyone this year but outside of that I'm really not sure. When you have to cover for as long as those guys do I really don't know what to scout for.
The "can't cover for 10 seconds" thing wasn't much of a problem tonight. Even though we didn't get pressure on Cody, most of his routes were quick hitters anyhow. Other teams, yes, EDM, not so much.
That said, there has to be some "there there" with the no-pressure plan. We have to assume Younger, Hall & MOS aren't dumb.
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 05:49:59 AMThe "can't cover for 10 seconds" thing wasn't much of a problem tonight. Even though we didn't get pressure on Cody, most of his routes were quick hitters anyhow. Other teams, yes, EDM, not so much.
That said, there has to be some "there there" with the no-pressure plan. We have to assume Younger, Hall & MOS aren't dumb.
Don't get it twisted.
Cody took his time when he wanted and he threw it quick when he wanted. In both cases, he dictated to us, not the other way around.
If you want to know the difference, Zach's night was filled with getting the ball out or getting hit which led to mistakes and turnovers.
Our defensive backs, especially the corners have to provide a ton of cushion because whatever elaborate route that's being run at them is more than likely two or three actions. That gets exhausting. And it's almost impossible to be aggressive as evidenced by our interceptions from the corner spots over 16 games. They are simply need to play too far back and too safely to be much of a threat.
Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 02:35:47 AMParker also did very well today. (Though was he looking like he might be tweaking injuries again?)
If Parker is 100% healthy, I'm thinking long & hard about starting him instead of Allen or Lawson. MOS does give extra credit to the longtime vets.
I think Allen has played better at safety then Parker did but it's another choice that could be made.
Three D lineman has worked well for the last few years, but I think the formula for beating it has been found by the other teams. Quick passes, and last night , outside runs.
How many plays do they have three linemen? It seems like a lot. So when we're complaining about no sacks, or no tackles by The tackles, maybe the coaches aren't expecting them to make a lot of tackles or get a lot of Sacks. Five o linemen, three d linemen, not going to get a lot of sacks.
But the D played well enough to win.
Somebody said Corcoran was open for a first down on the final Zach long pass interception, did anyone see that?
Zach has always had some Hero ball tendencies, looks like the days of it working are over. Maybe Jarious didn't want the O coordinator job.
The stupid thing about the system is that quarterbacks can get the ball out fast and can hold the ball in equal measures. It's not like it's never been effective, it's just that there's a significant tradeoff for marginal benefit most nights.
Another way to think about defense is what it takes away. Did it scheme away what they do best? What did we take away last night? Not the short passing game. Not the run. The deep ball? Is the Edmonton offense known for that? No.
This is basic defensive theory, guys. It's not controversial or disputed really.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 02:00:14 AMLet Jarious call plays already and while you're at it can someone ask Richie Hall what he thinks about going through half the season without even trying to attack the quarterback? It's beyond stupid already.
We have a coaching staff in love with their own ideas no matter the result.
The pre-game show was citing the Rich Stubler influence on Younger. Both MOS and Younger played under Stubler. Lapo says he sees the influence all over our D especially the rush 3.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 02:03:14 PMThe stupid thing about the system is that quarterbacks can get the ball out fast and can hold the ball in equal measures. It's not like it's never been effective, it's just that there's a significant tradeoff for marginal benefit most nights.
Another way to think about defense is what it takes away. Did it scheme away what they do best? What did we take away last night? Not the short passing game. Not the run. The deep ball? Is the Edmonton offense known for that? No.
This is basic defensive theory, guys. It's not controversial or disputed really.
Bomber defence did hold Fajardo to 142 yards passing @ about 50%. Only 1 big reception for 37 yards. It was the run game that we had difficulty with and we knew we had to take away Rankin and we didn't.
That said, the 3rd and 2 that went for a 65 yard TD was a killer. That was the exception to holding him under control. The punt fumble, recovery and TD were the two plays that ultimately did us in.
Sometimes those odd plays just don't go your way. I'm not saying we played extremely well in any of the 3 aspects. We didn't control the LOS on either side of the ball.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 12, 2025, 01:42:42 AMhe is just a poor punter. That is massive field position Given up.
I never liked him but he has had some good games this year.
James Evans, punter we tried to keep on our PR after camp has been released by Sask. (Sept 22) He's worth another look.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 02:22:14 AMJake Thomas has 9 tackles on the season. Three tackles in his last seven games and none since September 6. Four straight games without a stat.
Lawson had four tackles tonight.
Woods had three tackles tonight.
The guy has become a pylon and a symptom of flawed decision making by the coaching staff.
"Jake is a key part of our defense and a character guy that's been around so long he's like another coach out there. It's not about stats. He consistently fills the J-gap and does an outstanding job of that. Most people don't understand this and are too quick to be critical and point at stats that we don't consider important."
Quote from: Blueforlife on October 12, 2025, 01:33:45 AMQuoteAmazing catch on what should have been another interception. Zach ain't got the arm
He did last week
He did. LAST WEEK. That is what happens to older players, the good games are still there but not as often, not often enough.
For anyone that wants to really look, his under throws and interceptions tell the story of a QB's arm in serious decline. His scrambling ability, once the league's best at buying time, is gone. What surprises me is how many fans are not objective and think somehow he can play like last week all the time. The evidence suggests otherwise.
Quote from: gordo on October 12, 2025, 02:56:58 PM"Jake is a key part of our defense and a character guy that's been around so long he's like another coach out there. It's not about stats. He consistently fills the J-gap and does an outstanding job of that. Most people don't understand this and are too quick to be critical and point at stats that we don't consider important."
Blah, blah, blah.....
The J gap??? Never heard of that one before, please elaborate, is this whatever gap he plops his fat body in becomes the J gap?? He is the Sam hurl of our defense.
It seems Zach has one great game and then 2 or 3 or 4 sub-par games (including one stinker). Whatever he had is fading, like a lot of the veterans on this team.
Can't believe they decided to run the same old gang one more time in a year the club hosts the Grey Cup.
Quote from: Waffler on October 12, 2025, 03:00:16 PMHe did last week
He did. LAST WEEK. That is what happensu to older players, the good games are still there but not as often, not often enough.
For anyone that wants to really look, his under throws and interceptions tell the story of a QB's arm in serious decline. His scrambling ability, once the league's best at buying time, is gone. What surprises me is how many fans are not objective and think somehow he can play like last week all the time. The evidence suggests otherwise.
Greatest football player in history Tom Brady has ruined it for everyone.
Quote from: Blue In BC on October 12, 2025, 02:34:08 PMBomber defence did hold Fajardo to 142 yards passing @ about 50%. Only 1 big reception for 37 yards. It was the run game that we had difficulty with and we knew we had to take away Rankin and we didn't.
That said, the 3rd and 2 that went for a 65 yard TD was a killer. That was the exception to holding him under control. The punt fumble, recovery and TD were the two plays that ultimately did us in.
Sometimes those odd plays just don't go your way. I'm not saying we played extremely well in any of the 3 aspects. We didn't control the LOS on either side of the ball.
I said before the game, that this game would expose our defensive weakness—stopping the run, and folks were quick to point out our run defense was fine, well folks it ain't, it stinks!! Could be because we have a slew of defensive tackles that don't make a tackle!?!
Quote from: dd on October 12, 2025, 03:09:59 PMBlah, blah, blah.....
The J gap??? Never heard of that one before, please elaborate, is this whatever gap he plops his fat body in becomes the J gap??
I was giving a preview of the Coaches show. And man you really do know your football. The J-gap is exactly what you described but I would have left out the personal insult. He's a good guy who has given it his all for alot of years.
Not his fault Bomber management can't bring themselves to move on from him. Most guys would take the money and keep playing past their best before date too.
Bombers dont have the personnel up front to do a 3 man rush with any authority
Strange that Dontaria is not good enough for the NFL in any capacity.
Makes you wonder.
I feel some sympathy for our receivers trying to establish a career with a faded quarterbackwho can't get the ball to them. Or Streveller.
So we see the opinion, that our receiving group is bad. Wheatfall and Wilson are both good receivers. And 86 has looked good at times.
Quote from: Blue In BC on October 12, 2025, 02:34:08 PMBomber defence did hold Fajardo to 142 yards passing @ about 50%. Only 1 big reception for 37 yards. It was the run game that we had difficulty with and we knew we had to take away Rankin and we didn't.
That said, the 3rd and 2 that went for a 65 yard TD was a killer. That was the exception to holding him under control. The punt fumble, recovery and TD were the two plays that ultimately did us in.
Sometimes those odd plays just don't go your way. I'm not saying we played extremely well in any of the 3 aspects. We didn't control the LOS on either side of the ball.
On Rankin's long run O'Shea said that they lost contain on the left side, this is because the DE either cut in too early or the SAM was out of position covering a receiver. Griffin might have made the difference, too often Holm or Nichols are tasked with making the tackles a LB should be making.
Quote from: dd on October 12, 2025, 03:15:08 PMI said before the game, that this game would expose our defensive weakness—stopping the run, and folks were quick to point out our run defense was fine, well folks it ain't, it stinks!! Could be because we have a slew of defensive tackles that don't make a tackle!?!
Tale of the tape, the Defence did not lose this game, they held the Elks to 25 points and 307 yds. in total offence. It was the inept offence that could not put points up on the board and turned the ball over twice. They only lost by 5 points but look at that last drive, at what point does it make sense to heave the ball 40 yds. and not come close to hitting the receiver?
As for Jake, I saw him make at least 2 tackles last night and he's not listed on the stat. sheet anywhere, so those numbers should be taken with a grain of salt.
Quote from: gordo on October 12, 2025, 02:56:58 PM"Jake is a key part of our defense and a character guy that's been around so long he's like another coach out there. It's not about stats. He consistently fills the J-gap and does an outstanding job of that. Most people don't understand this and are too quick to be critical and point at stats that we don't consider important."
Such a BS argument from whoever said that.
Quote from: gordo on October 12, 2025, 02:56:58 PM"Jake is a key part of our defense and a character guy that's been around so long he's like another coach out there. It's not about stats. He consistently fills the J-gap and does an outstanding job of that. Most people don't understand this and are too quick to be critical and point at stats that we don't consider important."
Facts are presented above by people that understand what Jake is from the organization. Don't have to love him but I believe he deserves more respect than some give him. The coaches part is important. Glue guy.
Looking back at that game it was obvious that we were outcoached, and it wasn't close.
the elks came in with more energy, a game plan to stop our offence focusing on Slowing Brady and pressuring Zac in various ways. Offensively they stayed conservative limited turnovers.Physicality wise they dominated. The end score flattered us.
I don't know what we did to prepare/game plan for this game even with the extra week. This isnt new as Techno will attest. I really feel coaching lost us this game.
While most of it is on coaches especially Hogan and OShea, what also concerns me is our leaders/vets. Jefferson, was invisible, Thomas slow, our oline was weak, and Zac looked lost.
Love Jake, he's been a great Bomber. But, like so many Bombers before him, Bighill, Harris, BA37, etc, his career is coming to an end.
Quote from: The Zipp on October 12, 2025, 02:18:42 AMwillie - invisible
jake thomas - invisible
I saw Thomas on a number of plays, especially on of the tackles Jones got credit for...
Willie seemed to be getting pushed deep by the OT... kept "contain" on Cody, but no pressure or knockdowns.
Quote from: dd on October 12, 2025, 02:41:54 AMMitchell has been a total bust. We replaced lawler with this guy?? Really?? He's not even a #3 receiver let alone #1, what on earth was Walter's thinking?? We have never recovered from losing lawler and won't until we spend some $$ and get a true #1 receiver back here
This was NOT the replacement for Lawler, but Lawler left because he inferred it was, and his fee fees got hurt because Mitchell signed first.
Keeping Demski, Schoen, Lawler was going to be tough, especially at Lawler's ask. Mitchell was supposed to be an addition to the corps... and not a replacement for Lawler, but potentially a contingency
Quote from: dd on October 12, 2025, 03:09:59 PMBlah, blah, blah.....
The J gap??? Never heard of that one before, please elaborate, is this whatever gap he plops his fat body in becomes the J gap?? He is the Sam hurl of our defense.
When a DB does a great job covering and gets no stats because the QB never challenges him, that's a great game.
When Jake gets no stats because the plays go away from him, or he forces the runner to another D player, he's a pylon.
Blah, blah, blah.
Ford going for Fords knee's. Didn't think Ford was that kind of player.
Quote from: theaardvark on October 12, 2025, 05:41:30 PMI saw Thomas on a number of plays, especially on of the tackles Jones got credit for...
Willie seemed to be getting pushed deep by the OT... kept "contain" on Cody, but no pressure or knockdowns.
Saw Willie was wearing a full arm wrap in pink, this is the first indication I've ever seen of him dealing with an undisclosed injury. Throughout his career he's remained remarkably healthy.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 12, 2025, 03:34:09 AMWhen was the last time that the two teams that played in Grey Cup the previous year didn't make the playoffs.
We are making the playoffs
Quote from: Pigskin on October 12, 2025, 05:55:56 PMFord going for Fords knee's. Didn't think Ford was that kind of player.
I don't think he is a dirty player.
Quote from: The Zipp on October 12, 2025, 02:18:42 AMwillie - invisible
jake thomas - invisible
Jake did his thing and wasn't invisible imo, others seen him make plays
Willie was neutralized
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 12, 2025, 04:26:52 PMOn Rankin's long run O'Shea said that they lost contain on the left side, this is because the DE either cut in too early or the SAM was out of position covering a receiver. Griffin might have made the difference, too often Holm or Nichols are tasked with making the tackles a LB should be making.
I noticed Allen moved inside while Rankin went around him. A rookie mistake against a very fast player.
Quote from: theaardvark on October 12, 2025, 05:48:47 PMWhen a DB does a great job covering and gets no stats because the QB never challenges him, that's a great game.
When Jake gets no stats because the plays go away from him, or he forces the runner to another D player, he's a pylon.
Blah, blah, blah.
You're right. He's the guy that the RB runs by while he flaying away.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 12, 2025, 04:43:08 PMTale of the tape, the Defence did not lose this game, they held the Elks to 25 points and 307 yds. in total offence. It was the inept offence that could not put points up on the board and turned the ball over twice. They only lost by 5 points but look at that last drive, at what point does it make sense to heave the ball 40 yds. and not come close to hitting the receiver?
As for Jake, I saw him make at least 2 tackles last night and he's not listed on the stat. sheet anywhere, so those numbers should be taken with a grain of salt.
Falling on top of the pile is not the player making the DT or getting credit. Late to the party.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 12, 2025, 12:43:49 AMwhy do you even post on here anymore. So many delusional comments people don't even take you seriously at all anymore. You come on here spout this crap. It is like you aren't even watching the same game. lol
I don't even bother reading his comments, I just bypass him and go to the next person.
Quote from: Blue In BC on October 12, 2025, 06:31:10 PMFalling on top of the pile is not the player making the DT or getting credit. Late to the party.
The play I remember, he was holding the player's legs while Jones finished him off above...
Quote from: theaardvark on October 12, 2025, 07:11:44 PMThe play I remember, he was holding the player's legs while Jones finished him off above...
I don't remember seeing that but it's still a marginal result for an entire game. Do you know when in the game that happened?
On that play the announcer inadvertently said it was Thomas and then on replay it was Woods.
Jake Thomas gets washed every running play he's in basically because if he didn't he'd have a tackle.
The other tackles that played last night? Seven tackles combined.
Jake? Zero. For the fourth straight game.
The results are the results.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 09:56:10 PMOn that play the announcer inadvertently said it was Thomas and then on replay it was Woods.
Jake Thomas gets washed every running play he's in basically because if he didn't he'd have a tackle.
The other tackles that played last night? Seven tackles combined.
Jake? Zero. For the fourth straight game.
The results are the results.
Ya, but stats like tackles and sacks are so misleading. He's our 'glue' guy, we need more 'glue' guys on our team. What a bunch of malarkee!! If a reciever went 4 games without a catch, would he play the next game?? Would we be praising him for not making plays by suggesting he's a 'good blocker', or he was running the decoy routes?? I think not. In pro sports, you either produce or you're replaced, except beloved jakie, the guy with a 10 second forty time. keep playing him. What a joke.
Our defence has been decent, my only big concern is the lack of physicality. Other teams make our receivers and qb pay, we seem to lay back and react to plays
( With the exception of special teams)
We aren't generating turnovers nearly enough.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 12, 2025, 05:55:56 PMFord going for Fords knee's. Didn't think Ford was that kind of player.
Brady? Yes, neither did I, and BO's response was to pop up, pat Ford on the helmet, and move on to the next play. BO is a class act. I can't say the same about Tyrell and maybe there's one more reason he's not a Bomber any longer.
Quote from: dd on October 12, 2025, 10:11:42 PMYa, but stats like tackles and sacks are so misleading. He's our 'glue' guy, we need more 'glue' guys on our team. What a bunch of malarkee!! If a reciever went 4 games without a catch, would he play the next game?? Would we be praising him for not making plays by suggesting he's a 'good blocker', or he was running the decoy routes?? I think not. In pro sports, you either produce or you're replaced, except beloved jakie, the guy with a 10 second forty time. keep playing him. What a joke.
Better check out Mitchell's stats. Stats are reality.
Why do we need another glue guy with Jefferson, Vaughters, Wilson, Holm, Nichols, Kramdi and Parker already on the roster?
Quote from: Blue In BC on Today at 12:16:20 AMBetter check out Mitchell's stats. Stats are reality.
Why do we need another glue guy with Jefferson, Vaughters, Wilson, Holm, Nichols, Kramdi and Parker already on the roster?
We don't need any marginal players being our 'glue' guys. My entire post was written in extreme sarcasm.
Quote from: gordo on October 12, 2025, 02:56:58 PM"Jake is a key part of our defense and a character guy that's been around so long he's like another coach out there. It's not about stats. He consistently fills the J-gap and does an outstanding job of that. Most people don't understand this and are too quick to be critical and point at stats that we don't consider important."
Jake Thomas reminds me of Sam Hurl (Canadian Linebacker) from 2015 to 2017 we stuck him in the middle to fill the gaps and was a favorite of O'Shea... just saying
Quote from: barbk on Today at 01:19:48 AMJake Thomas reminds me of Sam Hurl (Canadian Linebacker) from 2015 to 2017 we stuck him in the middle to fill the gaps and was a favorite of O'Shea... just saying
He is exactly that and both were useless football players