Zack Collaros remains in the realm of uncertainty for the upcoming game in Ottawa.
With limited practice this past week he is listed as "questionable" and likely, at best, a game time decision.
Ed Tait's 48-Hour Primer sheds a bit more light on how the players feel about the upcoming game as well as the remaining games of the season.
The latest injury report follows and other details will be forthcoming tomorrow. Needless to say, now would be a good time to start a winning streak toward the playoffs.
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Derek Taylor is implying that Zach will play. Based on the timing of the announcement last week that he was out. They didn't say that today.
Well, we are looking healthier.
Does Bob Dyce return home?
It's almost a whole cares game? Tough to cheer on the Bombers. I mean of course I hope for a win, but do the Jets play Saturday?
Never tough to cheer for the big Blue or any team in this great league. The entertainment value is there each week, even when your club or the opponent struggles. I prefer high scoring tight games which would be welcome Saturday. Especially live, sure nice when both clubs show up.
Sep 18 MOS presser, reporter asks "so Zach's gonna play?", MOS replies "we'll see, I don't think so, but maybe, he's doing well".
That's a bit different than usual, him saying "I don't think so". Usually every "maybe" comment is positive. He'll usually say "probably", not "probably not".
Of course, this could be 5D chess. Never can tell with MOS. But this is is a change in tone.
Vegas & the gambling sites must HATE how MOS plays coy with the Zach-type situations. If they list him as GTD then a lot of people can't place bets until 30 mins before KO! And by that time some of the markets/choices have been locked.
If the CFL is trying to play nice with the gambling industry (for $$) they may have to step in and outlaw GTD tricks for QBs.
probably the least excited i have been for a game this year. i will come around by tomorrow and get into it but the trend this team is on hasn't been great.
Quote from: The Zipp on September 19, 2025, 12:33:59 PMprobably the least excited i have been for a game this year. i will come around by tomorrow and get into it but the trend this team is on hasn't been great.
Excitement depends on whether or not Streveler has to make a passing attempt. Alternatively, if Streveler must play excitement depends on the location of a time machine that can return us a copy of 2019 Streveler.
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 19, 2025, 01:02:38 AMSep 18 MOS presser, reporter asks "so Zach's gonna play?", MOS replies "we'll see, I don't think so, but maybe, he's doing well".
I have some suggestions for him for press conference material:
Eg " Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that!"
And other similar stuff.
He's been reading Lewis Carroll.
Quote from: markf on September 19, 2025, 01:59:25 PMAnnoying. His statement is of no value.
He takes the press conference gamesmanship far too seriously.
The media should not be his enemy.
How does this kind of thing help the team?
He is getting a bit Bill Belichick-ish :D
Ed Tait @EdTaitWFC
The @Wpg_BlueBombers roster features two changes this for tomorrow's game in Ottawa. On are DBs Jamal Parker, Jr. and Jake Kelly, off are Nick Hallett and Michael Griffin II.
Chris Streveler will start at QB
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Quote from: gobombersgo on September 19, 2025, 02:08:38 PMEd Tait @EdTaitWFC
Chris Streveler will start at QB
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Winnipeg Blue Bombers rule out Zach Collaros, Chris Streveler to start against Ottawa
By 3Down Staff -September 19, 2025
The Winnipeg Blue Bombers have ruled out Zach Collaros for a second-straight game.
The 37-year-old missed last week's loss to the Hamilton Tiger-Cats due to a head injury he suffered against the Saskatchewan Roughriders in the Banjo Bowl. He was a limited participant in practice this week, according to the team's official report, but has been left on the one-game injured list.
Chris Streveler will start in place of Collaros. Last week, the native of Crystal Lake, Ill. completed 18-of-29 pass attempts for 241 yards, one touchdown, and two interceptions and ran 11 times for 81 yards and a score in a 32-21 loss to the Tiger-Cats.
The 30-year-old has now thrown for 1,013 yards, six touchdowns, and 10 interceptions on the season to go 2-1 as a starter.
Dating back to his rookie season in 2018, Streveler has thrown for 4,054 yards, 26 touchdowns, and 30 interceptions, and rushed for 1,627 yards and 36 scores over 61 career regular-season CFL games. He is 7-9 as a CFL starter.
Collaros has thrown for 2,297 yards, 14 touchdowns, and 13 interceptions over 10 regular-season games this season, posting a 4-6 record. The native of Steubenville, Ohio has also rushed for 105 yards and a score.
Winnipeg has made two other changes two other changes to the roster, placing defensive backs Nick Hallett and Michael Griffin II on the one-game injured list. Hallett, who has recorded six special teams tackles over 10 games this year, is uninjured, according to the team's official report, while Griffin II missed practice all week due to a knee injury.
Jamal Parker, who missed six-straight games with a leg injury, has been activated and will start at field-side cornerback, pushing Dexter Lawson Jr. into a backup role. Canadian defensive back Jake Kelly has also been promoted from the practice roster to fill a depth role behind starting safety Cam Allen.
The Winnipeg Blue Bombers (6-7) will visit the Ottawa Redblacks (4-9) at TD Place Stadium on Saturday, September 20 with kickoff slated for 3:00 p.m. EDT. The Blue Bombers are coming off a 32-21 loss to Hamilton, while the Redblacks lost 38-27 against B.C. in Vancouver.
The weather forecast in Ottawa calls for a high of 19 degrees with sunny conditions. The game will be broadcast on TSN, RDS, and CTV in Canada and CFL+ internationally. Radio listeners can tune-in on 680 CJOB in Winnipeg and TSN 1200 in Ottawa.
https://3downnation.com/2025/09/19/winnipeg-blue-bombers-rule-out-zach-collaros-chris-streveler-to-start-against-ottawa/
Terrrrrrrrible!
Artopoeus or bust! :D Arpy! Arpy! Arpy!
Quote from: gobombersgo on September 19, 2025, 02:08:38 PMEd Tait @EdTaitWFC
The @Wpg_BlueBombers roster features two changes this for tomorrow's game in Ottawa. On are DBs Jamal Parker, Jr. and Jake Kelly, off are Nick Hallett and Michael Griffin II.
Chris Streveler will start at QB
Really would have like to see Woods or Adams on the AR. Need to see more out of Vaughters. Last 5 games, 6 DTs, no sacks.
Person. 9 games, 2 DTs, 1 Sack.
Adams. 10 games, 9 DTs, 2 Sacks.
Jake. 13 games, 9 DTs.
Korn. 8 games, 3 DTs.
Griffin out is going to hurt us, but we might see a little more of Smith on D.
Our worst fears are being realized. I don't think Collaros has ever missed 2 consecutive games since coming to Winnipeg. This just confirms my expectation that he won't play again in 2025 and should have been placed on the 6 game IR to shelter the SMS.
The other position changes / no changes can only make us shake our heads on why other changes are not made like an import DT for example.
I was hoping Sterns would be playing this week.
How does Kelly move from AR to PR and then replace Hallett again. That move is a bit like moving the chairs around on the Titanic?
Why do we have both Woods and Adams on pr? If we dont think they are an upgrade to Thomas and Kornelson why the heck are they here?
And its not the ratio, we could easily of not dressed Lawson jr. As we have Vaval and added Kelly as well.
Even dressing Vanderpool to help our struggling oline would have made more sense
interesting stat from our forum member /friend Zach S on X:
In his career, Streveler has thrown an interception on 5% of his pass attempts. In his three starts in 2025, he has averaged 25 pass attempts, so he's on pace to throw 1.25 interceptions tomorrow. If he can keep it to just one, #Bombers have a chance.
Quote from: Pete on September 19, 2025, 02:28:43 PMWhy do we have both Woods and Adams on pr? If we dont think they are an upgrade to Thomas and Kornelson why the heck are they here?
And its not the ratio, we could easily of not dressed Lawson jr. As we have Vaval and added Kelly as well.
Even dressing Vanderpool to help our struggling oline would have made more sense
I have no idea. It's really, really, really, strange.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 19, 2025, 02:27:58 PMOur worst fears are being realized. I don't think Collaros has ever missed 2 consecutive games since coming to Winnipeg. This just confirms my expectation that he won't play again in 2025 and should have been placed on the 6 game IR to shelter the SMS.
The other position changes / no changes can only make us shake our heads on why other changes are not made like an import DT for example.
I was hoping Sterns would be playing this week.
How does Kelly move from AR to PR and then replace Hallett again. That move is a bit like moving the chairs around on the Titanic?
Kelly was so bad in that first outing against Calgary they moved him as far away from the playing surface as possible for two months. Maybe he'll join the defensive line rotation? :D
Sterns was limited at practice this week, didn't think he was ready yet.
Quote from: The Zipp on September 19, 2025, 02:36:28 PMinteresting stat from our forum member /friend Zach S on X:
In his career, Streveler has thrown an interception on 5% of his pass attempts. In his three starts in 2025, he has averaged 25 pass attempts, so he's on pace to throw 1.25 interceptions tomorrow. If he can keep it to just one, #Bombers have a chance.
Let's dial in those numbers to this year (as 2019 is no longer predictively relevant) and let's forgot about the number of picks he should have thrown and just go with the actual ones: 10 INTs on 134 attempts in 2025.
That's a 7.5% rate.
Assuming, as per your example, he throws 25 passes, it's 1.9 (2 essentially).
And if we're being honest, his interception rate should probably be higher than it is.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 19, 2025, 02:48:42 PMKelly was so bad in that first outing against Calgary they moved him as far away from the playing surface as possible for two months. Maybe he'll join the defensive line rotation? :D
It brings me back to my queries about Makonzo who was listed as " full " in recent weeks and wondering what it takes to get him on the AR.
Count me as a very disappointed fan with how the team manages injuries and deceptive comments. The poor off season recruitment showed from day 1 and we've taken our usual status quo posture. We went into free agency with OL DL and receiver issues. Nothing has changed.
Quote from: Pigskin on September 19, 2025, 02:27:44 PMReally would have like to see Woods or Adams on the AR. Need to see more out of Vaughters. Last 5 games, 6 DTs, no sacks.
Person. 9 games, 2 DTs, 1 Sack.
Adams. 10 games, 9 DTs, 2 Sacks.
Jake. 13 games, 9 DTs.
Korn. 8 games, 3 DTs.
Griffin out is going to hurt us, but we might see a little more of Smith on D.
Obviously Younger is convinced they can get by with 6 O-linemen when the ideal rotation is 8. From his roster moves over the last 2 months it appears he's happy with the makeup of his defence.
I am going to assume we need two wins somewhere to hang on to third by season end. Basing this on the BC schedule. Cgy twice and Sask once. Also To (possibly Kelly?) and Edm.
We need this one and the Edmonton game in week 19. If we can't beat Ottawa in a must win then we really don't belong in the post season. Sadly we have no one at QB that can match Dru Brown. Dark days indeed.
QB Dru Brown returns as starter for Ottawa Redblacks against Winnipeg
By 3Down Staff -September 19, 2025
Star quarterback Dru Brown will officially make his return to the starting lineup when the Ottawa Redblacks face Winnipeg on Saturday.
The 28-year-old native of Palo Alto, Calif., has missed Ottawa's last three games due to a knee injury he sustained against the Bombers in mid-August, although he officially dressed as the third-stringer last week. The five-foot-eleven, 200-pound passer has thrown for 1,842 yards, 12 touchdowns, and five interceptions over eight regular-season games this year, posting a 2-5 record as a starter.
Missing for Brown's return will be running back William Stanback (back) and rookie right tackle Parker Moorer (knee), both of whom have been placed on the one-game injured list. Canadian Daniel Adeboboye will step into the backfield, while left guard Drew Desjarlais bounces out to tackle. Rookie second-round CFL Draft pick Sam Carson will make his first start at guard, while David Knevel will suit up as insurance.
Ottawa will also endure significant changes on special teams, as punter Richie Leone will miss the game following the passing of his mother. American rookie Noah Gettman will debut in his place, while returner DeVonte Dedmon returns from a long absence and will split duties with Kalil Pimpleton.
Dressing in depth roles this week are Canadian defensive tackle Daniel Okpoko and American defensive end Chase McGowan. Canadian linebacker James Peter and Canadian defensive tackle Deionte Knight have been demoted to the practice roster.
The Ottawa Redblacks (4-9) will host the Winnipeg Blue Bombers (6-7) at TD Place Stadium on Saturday, September 20 with kickoff slated for 3:00 p.m. EDT. The Blue Bombers are coming off a 32-21 loss to Hamilton, while the Redblacks lost 38-27 against B.C. in Vancouver.
The weather forecast in Ottawa calls for a high of 19 degrees with sunny conditions. The game will be broadcast on TSN, RDS, and CTV in Canada and CFL+ internationally. Radio listeners can tune-in on 680 CJOB in Winnipeg and TSN 1200 in Ottawa.
https://3downnation.com/2025/09/19/qb-dru-brown-returns-as-starter-for-ottawa-redblacks-against-winnipeg/
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Hallett and Griffin both to 1 game IR. I don't know if Hallett is actually injured prompting Kelly to be added. Somewhat of a moot / rhetorical point falling into the what the heck?
Lawson has been playing better but was this the best solution for losing Griffin? I had suggested / thought we'd see J. Jones added back.
Since we didn't add J. Jones, Woods, Adams or Echols I question why we haven't replaced any of these PR players with better options. At the very least tried to replace them.
I think the defence is going to have an exceptional game to help our sputtering offence. Our offence can't give the Redblacks points from turnovers is an understatement.
We need our defence and / or ST's come up with points to keep us in the game.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 19, 2025, 05:16:32 PMHallett and Griffin both to 1 game IR. I don't know if Hallett is actually injured prompting Kelly to be added. Somewhat of a moot / rhetorical point falling into the what the heck?
Lawson has been playing better but was this the best solution for losing Griffin? I had suggested / thought we'd see J. Jones added back.
Since we didn't add J. Jones, Woods, Adams or Echols I question why we haven't replaced any of these PR players with better options. At the very least tried to replace them.
I think the defence is going to have an exceptional game to help our sputtering offence. Our offence can't give the Redblacks points from turnovers is an understatement.
We need our defence and / or ST's come up with points to keep us in the game.
Amen! With Stev as our QB we are in deep deep do do!
I wish I didn't have icky Fall 2015ish feelings about the team like I do now. Back then it was worse though because we hosted the Grey Cup that year.
....wait...oh, crap.
Prove me wrong, Bombers! Luckily there are enough terrible teams this year that if we can just beat up on some of them enough we can back into the playoffs and then technically anything can happen. I'm not writing anything off yet, just having trouble being excited with the current state of things.
A 50- 50 prognosis huh?
Just not our year
Coaching staff continues to roster players in an attempt to lose the game.
No Adams or Woods DL even with present ratio flexibility.
No chance Any other QB plays other than Strevceptor.
This is pathetic and makes me want to do other things with my weekend.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 19, 2025, 05:16:32 PMHallett and Griffin both to 1 game IR. I don't know if Hallett is actually injured prompting Kelly to be added. Somewhat of a moot / rhetorical point falling into the what the heck?
Lawson has been playing better but was this the best solution for losing Griffin? I had suggested / thought we'd see J. Jones added back.
Since we didn't add J. Jones, Woods, Adams or Echols I question why we haven't replaced any of these PR players with better options. At the very least tried to replace them.
I think the defence is going to have an exceptional game to help our sputtering offence. Our offence can't give the Redblacks points from turnovers is an understatement.
We need our defence and / or ST's come up with points to keep us in the game.
Seems like Hallett may be on his way out, sat out a number of games for that eye injury, put in for one game and now replaced by Jake Kelly who might not see any reps on defence either. I take it Makonzo hasn't demonstrated enough in practice to warrant inserting him onto the roster, whatever position he's prepping for he's probably 3rd in line now behind Shay and Smith.
Hmmm.....I see Makonzo is back on the 6 game IR, did he re-injure himself?
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 19, 2025, 07:05:00 PMSeems like Hallett may be on his way out, sat out a number of games for that eye injury, put in for one game and now replaced by Jake Kelly who might not see any reps on defence either. I take it Makonzo hasn't demonstrated enough in practice to warrant inserting him onto the roster, whatever position he's prepping for he's probably 3rd in line now behind Shay and Smith.
Hmmm.....I see Makonzo is back on the 6 game IR, did he re-injure himself?
I don't think Makonzo was ever 100% this year.
I think MOS is looking at this weekend and believes that Calgary should beat BC, and Hamilton will beat Edmonton. If we can win with Strev, it's a very good day. If we don't win, nothing changes in the west and ZC8 gets another week of rest.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 19, 2025, 07:05:00 PMSeems like Hallett may be on his way out, sat out a number of games for that eye injury, put in for one game and now replaced by Jake Kelly who might not see any reps on defence either. I take it Makonzo hasn't demonstrated enough in practice to warrant inserting him onto the roster, whatever position he's prepping for he's probably 3rd in line now behind Shay and Smith.
Hmmm.....I see Makonzo is back on the 6 game IR, did he re-injure himself?
I didn't hear anything about Makonzo re-injuring himself. When he was practising and was healthy, if he wasn't good enough to go on the AR then why not move him to PR or release him. Of course this is if he wasn't re-injured which seems doubtful.
He isn't costing the SMS any money but it seems like a series of bad decisions and bad luck.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on September 19, 2025, 06:42:45 PMCoaching staff continues to roster players in an attempt to lose the game.
No Adams or Woods DL even with present ratio flexibility.
No chance Any other QB plays other than Strevceptor.
This is pathetic and makes me want to do other things with my weekend.
Well if you are in Calgary and need something to do. I am cleaning out my garage tomorrow and getting everything ready for the fall/winter. It would be a lovely experience and I promise bologna sandwiches for lunch! :D - As it relates to the game I will take a lunch break at 2PM (our time) and watch the first quarter. Stev will probably have thrown 2 interceptions by then.
Quote from: BBRT on September 19, 2025, 09:25:31 PMWell if you are in Calgary and need something to do. I am cleaning out my garage tomorrow and getting everything ready for the fall/winter. It would be a lovely experience and I promise bologna sandwiches for lunch! :D - As it relates to the game I will take a lunch break at 2PM (our time) and watch the first quarter. Stev will probably have thrown 2 interceptions by then.
This is pretty classic.
I am almost afraid for Zac. I wonder if the decision has been made to shut him down. Arbuckle should be available. I would rather have Fajardo. Imagine winning a grey Cup and being cast adrift.
My respect for Strev, remains. However, he ain't no gunslinger. I don't understand though how ignorant management has been. No new players. Players who have proven they can not play! Is this entire Management and coaching group bailing after the season? We almost seem to appear to be playing out the string, and then adios.
Toronto has a new superstar according to TSN. And we have ....??? This might be painful.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 19, 2025, 02:27:58 PMOur worst fears are being realized. I don't think Collaros has ever missed 2 consecutive games since coming to Winnipeg. This just confirms my expectation that he won't play again in 2025 and should have been placed on the 6 game IR to shelter the SMS.
IIRC there were a couple of times we kept Zach off 2 weeks, though maybe coincided with a bye. I distinctly remember us keeping him off 2 weeks of actual games too, though. I'm sure he'll be back, just like before. If not, well, we're kinda doomed. Even if we make the post-season, Strev isn't winning a cup for us.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 19, 2025, 02:27:58 PMHow does Kelly move from AR to PR and then replace Hallett again. That move is a bit like moving the chairs around on the Titanic?
Maybe Hallett's eye is acting up again? ;D ;D
Seriously though, I think they like Kelly for certain D packages, more so than Hallett. Hallett is better on ST I think. And Hallett recovered a fumble last game when everyone else was standing around? Disclosure: I'm a big fan of Hallett.
Quote from: The Zipp on September 19, 2025, 02:36:28 PMIn his career, Streveler has thrown an interception on 5% of his pass attempts.
And what's a "normal" stat for "normal" QBs? Hard to compare if we're not given a comparison.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 19, 2025, 02:53:21 PMLet's dial in those numbers to this year (as 2019 is no longer predictively relevant) and let's forgot about the number of picks he should have thrown and just go with the actual ones
Ya, but same with every other QB. There's a reason DBs are DBs: can't catch.
Woods and Adams are in their second years on our teams. They've had good flashes over the years. I simply don't understand the rational behind their benchings.
Quote from: DM83 on September 19, 2025, 10:15:53 PMI am almost afraid for Zac. I wonder if the decision has been made to shut him down.
This is entirely possible. Of course, Mafia will never say. "We'll see"
If Zach doesn't start next week, then we'll know.
Quote from: Pigskin on September 19, 2025, 08:34:39 PMI think MOS is looking at this weekend and believes that Calgary should beat BC, and Hamilton will beat Edmonton.
But MOS always says "not looking at the standings", "not worrying about what other teams are doing".
;) ;) ;)
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 19, 2025, 07:05:00 PMSeems like Hallett may be on his way out, sat out a number of games for that eye injury, put in for one game and now replaced by Jake Kelly who might not see any reps on defence either.
I think the ONLY reason they put Kelly in over Hallett is that they WILL to use him on D. Kelly's part of the oft-used passing down set. Then teams just throw where he is and it's a free 25Y.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 20, 2025, 02:22:58 AMThis is entirely possible. Of course, Mafia will never say. "We'll see"
If Zach doesn't start next week, then we'll know.
This isn't a surgery where we know there's a 6-8 month recovery time.
He's being monitored for symptoms. I don't see any reason why they'd arbitrarily "shut him down". He was obviously cleared for light movement last week, that's why he was at practice but not really participating. We'll see if he gets any kind of increased participation next week.
But all that tells us if his symptoms have decreased or not. We can't make any pronouncements about the rest of the year and there's no reason for the Bombers to either. Publicly or internally.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 20, 2025, 02:25:55 AMI think the ONLY reason they put Kelly in over Hallett is that they WILL to use him on D. Kelly's part of the oft-used passing down set. Then teams just throw where he is and it's a free 25Y.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
With Griffin out Kramdi cant move to safety if needed, so Kelly coming in makes sense as hes still a better option than Hallet
At some point, if MOS is serious about caring for Zach the person, then he has to make the difficult decision of shutting Zach down to save himself from ruining his life after football. This is just a game, CTE is very real and very ugly for former player's. As a former player who often played with injuries, you always want to be out there with your teammates because that is all you know. Zach has been playing football since childhood, so making the decision to hang them up is very difficult sometimes other people have to make that decision for you. I am concerned for Zach's long term health the season be damned as Zach's health is more important. Zach has had numerous concussions in the past and if MOS knows more about Zach's concussion history than us fans (which he does) and if he continues to trot Zach out there knowing he could suffer a devastating head injury, then he could be setting up the WFC for a future lawsuit IMHO. I say shut Zach down for the season for his own long term good.
Quote from: Pete on September 20, 2025, 02:27:14 PMWith Griffin out Kramdi cant move to safety if needed, so Kelly coming in makes sense as hes still a better option than Hallet
We added Parker while keeping Lawson on the roster. I'm not sure exactly how they'll use them but the ratio suggests we can have both on the field at the same time. That means we don't have to put Kelly on defence at any time.
Also Woodbey is seeing a lot of time on defence and improving every game.
The depth chart doesn't really help but overall we've improved the depth with Parker but lost some ground with Griffin out.
Quote from: Horseman on September 20, 2025, 02:30:49 PMAt some point, if MOS is serious about caring for Zach the person, then he has to make the difficult decision of shutting Zach down to save himself from ruining his life after football. This is just a game, CTE is very real and very ugly for former player's. As a former player who often played with injuries, you always want to be out there with your teammates because that is all you know. Zach has been playing football since childhood, so making the decision to hang them up is very difficult sometimes other people have to make that decision for you. I am concerned for Zach's long term health the season be damned as Zach's health is more important. Zach has had numerous concussions in the past and if MOS knows more about Zach's concussion history than us fans (which he does) and if he continues to trot Zach out there knowing he could suffer a devastating head injury, then he could be setting up the WFC for a future lawsuit IMHO. I say shut Zach down for the season for his own long term good.
If Collaros doesn't play next week, we'll have our answer. I'm not promoting that he should play, just making the point that he may finished for 2025.
Quote from: Horseman on September 20, 2025, 02:30:49 PMAt some point, if MOS is serious about caring for Zach the person, then he has to make the difficult decision of shutting Zach down to save himself from ruining his life after football. This is just a game, CTE is very real and very ugly for former player's. As a former player who often played with injuries, you always want to be out there with your teammates because that is all you know. Zach has been playing football since childhood, so making the decision to hang them up is very difficult sometimes other people have to make that decision for you. I am concerned for Zach's long term health the season be damned as Zach's health is more important. Zach has had numerous concussions in the past and if MOS knows more about Zach's concussion history than us fans (which he does) and if he continues to trot Zach out there knowing he could suffer a devastating head injury, then he could be setting up the WFC for a future lawsuit IMHO. I say shut Zach down for the season for his own long term good.
There are a lot of factors at play and differing views on this and I'm not going to say what's right or wrong. In a perfect world, I think O'Shea (the WFC really) would shut him down. The reality is though, there is no word to describe how much pressure there is for this team to win this year. No other CFL team matches it. I think it's actually suffocating the team and they really need some steady leadership on the field. I think the WFC is hoping against hope that Chris Streveler somehow discovers a way to be successful and solves this problem for them.
Quote from: BBRT on September 19, 2025, 09:25:31 PMWell if you are in Calgary and need something to do. I am cleaning out my garage tomorrow and getting everything ready for the fall/winter. It would be a lovely experience and I promise bologna sandwiches for lunch! :D - As it relates to the game I will take a lunch break at 2PM (our time) and watch the first quarter. Stev will probably have thrown 2 interceptions by then.
mmm bologna sandwiches
Quote from: bomb squad on September 20, 2025, 03:17:01 PMThere are a lot of factors at play and differing views on this and I'm not going to say what's right or wrong. In a perfect world, I think O'Shea (the WFC really) would shut him down. The reality is though, there is no word to describe how much pressure there is for this team to win this year. No other CFL team matches it. I think it's actually suffocating the team and they really need some steady leadership on the field. I think the WFC is hoping against hope that Chris Streveler somehow discovers a way to be successful and solves this problem for them.
I guess the Red Sea will be parting too when Streveler ever becomes a real starter. Dream on. If zach is done for the season the bombers are toast unless Wilson is a hidden Casey printers exploding on the scene.
Age, injuries, overall talent level has dropped and questionable coaching all playing Into the current troubles plus many other elements. It's an Overall team failure if they go out with a whimper. The Mafia trifecta will get a mulligan for this season, but next season needs some significant shakeups.
Griffin will be missed
Who is our weak link in the secondary now?
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 05:02:17 PMGriffin will be missed
Who is our weak link in the secondary now?
Lawson but he's improving. The depth chart shows him behind Parker at CB but it's not clear how either will be used with Griffin out.
Bombers need to put together an entire 60 minute game. Can't afford to lose this one as the season goes into the last few games.
Quote from: The Zipp on September 20, 2025, 04:48:33 PMWOC bologna or nothing...
You have to understand my love for bologna sandwiches- I have been married for 54 years. I am a farm/ranch texas boy that married a Winnipeg health nut and a drop dead beautiful girl. She is 76 years old now and I am 80 - for 54 years I have to sneak a bologna sandwich whenever I can. My wife up to last year still did mini marathons and looks better than just about any 40 year old. She is urber strict on what I can eat. I live on salads, fruits, fish and the odd red meat every so often. Hence my great sin is sneaking a bologna sandwich when I can! ::)
Ed Tait and Doug Brown being very critical of Hogan on the pregame show.
Quote from: ichabod_crane on September 20, 2025, 05:01:46 PMI guess the Red Sea will be parting too when Streveler ever becomes a real starter. Dream on. If zach is done for the season the bombers are toast unless Wilson is a hidden Casey printers exploding on the scene.
Age, injuries, overall talent level has dropped and questionable coaching all playing Into the current troubles plus many other elements. It's an Overall team failure if they go out with a whimper. The Mafia trifecta will get a mulligan for this season, but next season needs some significant shakeups.
Well, if the Bombers are not going to make the playoffs which is a possibility with Rourke flashing hot, I'd welcome using the end of the season primarily for re-evaluation and tryouts. I have more interest in that process than standing pat and struggling just to come up 2 pts. short, while investing nothing in finding future solutions. If everyone on the roster is given a fair shot with game time they will have a much better understanding of what they need to improve upon going into next season.
Every play needs to be a triple RPO, Demski coming a across pre snap.
They did some of this in Banjo.
It's the only way to make a Strev led offense work
This is the most important game of the year so far especially with the Lions winning last night.A win today and the Bombers could be looking at a home playoff game. Calgary losing Adams, last night could be a big problem for them if Adams is out for awhile. The Bombers lose today and they will struggle to make the playoffs.
Quote from: Sway on September 20, 2025, 05:23:50 PMEvery play needs to be a triple RPO, Demski coming a across pre snap.
They did some of this in Banjo.
It's the only way to make a Strev led offense work
don't forget the fake handoff to the invisible back...gets them every time!!
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 20, 2025, 05:10:09 PMLawson but he's improving. The depth chart shows him behind Parker at CB but it's not clear how either will be used with Griffin out.
Bombers need to put together an entire 60 minute game. Can't afford to lose this one as the season goes into the last few games.
Yeah make a good point even with Lawson behind on the depth chart he will still get reps
Quote from: BBRT on September 20, 2025, 05:20:23 PMYou have to understand my love for bologna sandwiches- I have been married for 54 years. I am a farm/ranch texas boy that married a Winnipeg health nut and a drop dead beautiful girl. She is 76 years old now and I am 80 - for 54 years I have to sneak a bologna sandwich whenever I can. My wife up to last year still did mini marathons and looks better than just about any 40 year old. She is urber strict on what I can eat. I live on salads, fruits, fish and the odd red meat every so often. Hence my great sin is sneaking a bologna sandwich when I can! ::)
Sounds like the wife has kept you both healthy, good to cheat once and awhile
Nice story
On the pregame show:
The largest deficit Streveler has ever come back from is 3 points.
Have to score first and not give up the lead.
Quote from: The Zipp on September 20, 2025, 06:08:43 PMdon't forget the fake handoff to the invisible back...gets them every time!!
I think we open with that play. Really throw them off
Well, here we go.
Ride Brady, take care of the football, take the ball away from Dru. We got this.
Quote from: Jesse on September 20, 2025, 07:00:55 PMWell, here we go.
Ride Brady, take care of the football, take the ball away from Dru. We got this.
pretty much it.
oh and let Vaval run
Quote from: BBRT on September 20, 2025, 05:20:23 PMYou have to understand my love for bologna sandwiches- I have been married for 54 years. I am a farm/ranch texas boy that married a Winnipeg health nut and a drop dead beautiful girl. She is 76 years old now and I am 80 - for 54 years I have to sneak a bologna sandwich whenever I can. My wife up to last year still did mini marathons and looks better than just about any 40 year old. She is urber strict on what I can eat. I live on salads, fruits, fish and the odd red meat every so often. Hence my great sin is sneaking a bologna sandwich when I can! ::)
I hope you bologna is only Winnipeg Old Country .... my husband only eats that kind
Fart noise.
Not an inspiring first drive for Streveler, Hogan and the boys.
not strev's fault - we would have had to gamble though
Great kick, Sheahan having a great year, those that called for him to be cut were wrong imo
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 07:11:52 PMGreat kick, Sheahan having a great year, those that called for him to be cut were wrong imo
He continues to be average, yes, which is great for him.
terrible tackling continues, how MOS doesn't just lose his mind when he see that
Wow Ottawa playing pitch and catch, brown is going to absolutely gut us today!!
Brown is picking us apart, hopefully Redblacks don't get a 50 burger on us today
wrong team came in ready to play
secondary is so soft
Allen is now the weak link - teams find then and exploit
Doesn't get much easier than that
I would consider putting Parker at Safety if Allen struggles today
Zero pressure (aside from possibly the very first play) from our fantastic defensive scheme.
Last thing we needed is to put additional pressure on strev to score, wtth a qb as accurate as Brown, 3 man front is death
He's never come back from one touchdown down in his entire career someone else said sooooooo that's basically the ball game unless history is made.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 07:13:10 PMHe continues to be average, yes, which is great for him.
Nah his net punting is his strength
I don't have his numbers but my gut tells me his is above average in that regard
Those that called for him to be cut were wrong imo
That was waaay too easy, oh boy, today is going to be a loooooong day
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 07:18:13 PMHe's never come back from one touchdown down in his entire career someone else said sooooooo that's basically the ball game unless history is made.
Calling it's ball game after two drives is About as knee jerk as it gets imo
That said without a strong offense it's uphill from here yes
Famous quote from coaches and players "stick to the process"
OShea : Game plan> gameplan? we dont need no stinkin game plan, just play bomber football
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 07:20:25 PMCalling it's ball game after two drives is About as knee jerk as it gets
That said without a strong offense it's uphill from here yes
History could be made, yes. Will it? Probably not.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 07:21:52 PMHistory could be made, yes. Will it? Probably not.
Need run game without it we are history lol
We're screwed
its official all three phases struggling, can we not show any creativity in our offfence? first play run off tackle, 2nd play drop back and get sacked
What an excellent punt. What was the net there?
Ugly start
run up the middle on both first downs
failure on second x 2
punt, punt
now a good return by pimpleton
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 07:23:52 PMWhat an excellent punt. What was the net there?
He covers kicks now too?
Zero merit to the argument
His net is strong
He is a great directional punter
Maybe Michael Ayers forgot to tie his shoelace.
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 07:20:25 PMCalling it's ball game after two drives is About as knee jerk as it gets imo
That said without a strong offense it's uphill from here yes
Streveler has never come back from anything larger than a 3 point deficit. That's why he said it's over unless he makes history.
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 07:24:27 PMHe covers kicks now too?
Zero merit to the argument
Do you even know what net punting means? Clearly not.
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 07:24:27 PMHe covers kicks now too?
Zero merit to the argument
His net is strong
He is a great directional punter
That's what net is. The punt minus the return.
Air ball!
honestly ottawa should just go for it
Good news.... Ottawa didn't score on second possession
Hey atleast we sent some pressure
Quote from: The Zipp on September 20, 2025, 07:27:16 PMhonestly ottawa should just go for it
Good way to turn flip the field that is
At least Ontaria is back. He's legitimately good news.
Good for Ontario. Terrible play call on 2nd and 5
Maybe Zach Collaros can be our OC next year?
nice conversion on 2 and long
o line is having a tough afternoon
free play and we toss it 8 yards
ZC is taking notes why not be a coach this year or next year
We will teach Strev free play next week in practice
Quote from: Jesse on September 20, 2025, 07:25:11 PMStreveler has never come back from anything larger than a 3 point deficit. That's why he said it's over unless he makes history.
Stating that after the 2nd drive of the game was too early imo
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 07:25:19 PMDo you even know what net punting means? Clearly not.
Quote from: Jesse on September 20, 2025, 07:26:31 PMThat's what net is. The punt minus the return.
Yes I do know what it is
Didn't need the mansplanning
He is a good directional punter with a good net and choosing a play where the return was strong to counter the argument holds little weight imo
Pippleton made a play there
Our kick coverage did not
That was a good read and an okay throw by Streveler.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 07:30:17 PMMaybe Zach Collaros can be our OC next year?
Pass go from a coach with some experience to one with none isn't a great idea imo
BBB is back baby
Streveler is sooooooooo bad. Same mistakes. Over and over.
Who was he even throwing to?
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 07:16:51 PMZero pressure (aside from possibly the very first play) from our fantastic defensive scheme.
Drubbrown is laughing his *ss off, a gun slinger like him is going to rip us a new one. Awesome defensive strategy let's sit back and wait for brown to throw an incompletion and stall a drive, ain't gonna happen today, a 50 burger is not out of the question
JESUS save us lol
there it is
clockwork - gets flustered in the pocket and serves up a pick
Quote from: bluengold204 on September 20, 2025, 07:35:02 PMWho was he even throwing to?
Carbon copy of the interception from last week. Can't see dropping linebacker.
Quote from: dd on September 20, 2025, 07:35:05 PMDrubbrown is laughing his *ss off, a gun slinger like him is going to rip us a new one. Awesome defensive strategy let's sit back and wait for brown to throw an incompletion and stall a drive, ain't gonna happen today, a 50 burger is not out of the question
He got PAID and yes is happy
Interstreveler strikes again.
Wilson now please.
at least he didn't throw that interception on his first drive.... oh but he's our best chance to win games
any time strev throws down the middle 10-15 yards its intercepted
are they going to blame the reciever on that one ?
Well we were moving the ball, time for streveler to turn it over and he did, why not just continue to pound the rock we re killing the red blanks running it nope let's go to our weakness and have Strev throw it, he can't throw!!! Great play calling!!
Quote from: theaardvark on September 20, 2025, 07:36:00 PMInterstreveler strikes again.
Wilson now please.
I'm with Aardvark!
Quote from: theaardvark on September 20, 2025, 07:36:00 PMInterstreveler strikes again.
Wilson now please.
Gotta wait for 2 or 3 picks imo
But yes I want him too
Quote from: Pete on September 20, 2025, 07:36:48 PMany time strev throws down the middle 10-15 yards its intercepted
Every..... single.....time!!!
If O'Shea keeps sending Streveler out there expecting a different result, is that a sign of insanity?
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 07:38:00 PMGotta wait for 2 or 3 picks imo
But yes I want him too
O'Shea would let him throw 10 and not pull him
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 07:35:40 PMCarbon copy of the interception from last week. Can't see dropping linebacker.
And he can't see an open receiver but throws into coverage.
Quote from: theaardvark on September 20, 2025, 07:36:00 PMWilson now please.
Oshea is too stubborn to admit his Vet (look what he did for us in 2019) just isn't good enough
Quote from: J5V on September 20, 2025, 07:38:45 PMIf O'Shea keeps sending Streveler out there expecting a different result, is that a sign of insanity?
Yes.
ottawa sure loves that hitch screen
Quote from: Sway on September 20, 2025, 07:39:09 PMO'Shea would let him throw 10 and not pull him
3 max imo
Quote from: J5V on September 20, 2025, 07:38:45 PMIf O'Shea keeps sending Streveler out there expecting a different result, is that a sign of insanity?
YES
Good thing this isn't a home game. Will be interesting to hear the crowd if it's more Streveler next week.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 07:40:20 PMGood thing this isn't a home game. Will be interesting to hear the crowd if it's more Streveler next week.
Will turn on him quickly
Quote from: J5V on September 20, 2025, 07:38:45 PMIf O'Shea keeps sending Streveler out there expecting a different result, is that a sign of insanity?
You don't have to be Einstein to know that (IYKYK)
What have gone in this Bomber's team?
A HC who is not seeing anything wrong with his team (players and coordinators).
A GM who see nothing wrong in his HC.
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 07:38:00 PMGotta wait for 2 or 3 picks imo
But yes I want him too
Don't worry they're coming, we ll be down 25 points by then though
Remember his quote:
"It's on me. It starts with me, and I've got to keep doing a better job."
Better job would be sitting on a bench. Getting out of his own way.
Quote from: barbk on September 20, 2025, 07:40:17 PMYES
I know it's not a democracy but I wonder if the majority of Bomber fans want to see a different QB.
Quote from: dd on September 20, 2025, 07:42:09 PMDon't worry they're coming, we ll be down 25 points by then though
Hard to argue with you
Quote from: J5V on September 20, 2025, 07:42:33 PMI know it's not a democracy but I wonder if the majority of Bomber fans want to see a different QB.
Do a poll!
vavs
love it !!
Vaval,, Vavoom!
Least Vaval is trying
Vaval peaked someone said
He is back
Trey Vaval is the best thing we found this year that's for sure.
I really hope that Vaval's success doesn't mean Streveler gets a longer leash...
Quote from: theaardvark on September 20, 2025, 07:44:07 PMI really hope that Vaval's success doesn't mean Streveler gets a longer leash...
It buys him wiggle room to be sure
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 07:43:51 PMTrey Vaval is the best thing we found this year that's for sure.
Vaval knows he's the only one that can score. Grant who?
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 07:43:51 PMTrey Vaval is the best thing we found this year that's for sure.
If he can improve on D could be a top player
Jake should be o line man
Vaval bailing out pathetic offense again!!
time for defence to get a turnover
Quote from: barbk on September 20, 2025, 07:45:25 PMVaval knows he's the only one that score. Grant who?
Funny tsn just mentioned it
Our coverage teams are weak today
Notice the block on the kicker?
Jake Thomas... that doddering old guy... special teams hero.
Quote from: The Zipp on September 20, 2025, 07:45:59 PMtime for defence to get a turnover
Love it sack scoop and score?
Quote from: theaardvark on September 20, 2025, 07:44:07 PMI really hope that Vaval's success doesn't mean Streveler gets a longer leash...
Oh for sure it does
Quote from: theaardvark on September 20, 2025, 07:46:09 PMNotice the block on the kicker?
Jake Thomas... that doddering old guy... special teams hero.
How did I miss that! JT for pres lol
its ridiculas how much time the reciever has to make plays
Holm torched
Run D good
Good D there
Wow Brown makes throwing the ball look easy. He s a pure passer , effortless
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 07:46:53 PMHow did I miss that! JT for pres lol
Jake took out the kicker and the holder. Haha
Ok Strev time to earn your 100k!!!!
Field position I like it
Can Vaval get a MFG TD, PR TD and a KR TD?
Quote from: Sway on September 20, 2025, 07:48:26 PMJake took out the kicker and the holder. Haha
Fatboi likes pancakes lol
Quote from: theaardvark on September 20, 2025, 07:49:22 PMCan Vaval get a MFG TD, PR TD and a KR TD?
How about get him at reciever lol
how much we run the next play off tackle to Brady
Quote from: Pete on September 20, 2025, 07:50:24 PMhow much we run the next play off tackle to Brady
Sounds good to me
Good try Strev but not enough
Another great kick
Great net
Better coverage after a few wiffs
Sigh another 2 and out
That was a good punt.
Empty back field with Strev isn't intimidating anyone
I doubt that was a called qb draw
sad sack offence continues
Pretty sad when we talk about our punts
Rushed 5 there didn't get pressure
Quote from: Sway on September 20, 2025, 07:54:40 PMEmpty back field with Strev isn't intimidating anyone
I doubt that was a called qb draw
I think it was
Nice throw and catch
Parker looks good
Quote from: barbk on September 20, 2025, 07:54:55 PMPretty sad when we talk about our punts
Yup but ST is a third of the game and field position is key
Come on D now or never!!!!
D giving us a chance
its now! nice interception Allen
Finally got a pick!
#1 d lol
Did someone say put Parker at safety
I'll eat 3 kinds of bird
Downtown Dru Brown
AIRBALL
Quote from: The Zipp on September 20, 2025, 07:45:59 PMtime for defence to get a turnover
there it is.
no get some points off it and put this sorry team away
Good. D. We Adjusted when Ottawa did that fake out pre snap thing they always do
Previously we would just stay in original position and get torched
Streveler given the ball in scoring range. See if that lets the offense score some points. Sadly it's probably 50/50.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 08:00:53 PMStreveler given the ball in scoring range. See if that lets the offense score some points. Sadly it's probably 50/50.
Yup coin flip
Streveler runs like an hippopotamus but he does it.
Younger dialed up magic on that int
Strev for pres
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 08:02:52 PMStreveler runs like an hippopotamus but he does it.
He has a bad leg, working good considering
His speed is still there just chugging lol
More a rhino lol
2019 special right there
WE ARE BACK
Nice to talk about something other than punting lol
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 08:02:52 PMStreveler runs like an hippopotamus but he does it.
good play call
Quote from: Sway on September 20, 2025, 08:03:42 PM2019 special right there
Nice scheme
Nice OL alignment
Strev jets
Kick cover is fired up!
Thomas being held but we still got the sack
Willlliieeeeeeee a sack!
my goodness the holding that was going on.
great sack
Omg, Jake. Get through a block, lol.
Willie with a sack, wow.
Willie don't get sacks they cried
Gives up on plays they claimed
Come down to Wpg
I say
Fatboi was getting abused there lol (hold)
Quote from: Jesse on September 20, 2025, 08:07:39 PMOmg, Jake. Get through a block, lol.
Willie with a sack, wow.
Omg holding
A sack??? Wow.
Blatant holding on JT
Quote from: Sway on September 20, 2025, 08:08:10 PMA sack??? Wow.
Blatant holding on JT
We starting to eat and fatboi is hungry tonight
Get him some cakes at half time
Quote from: barbk on September 20, 2025, 08:07:07 PMThomas being held but we still got the sack
Can't get any more obvious than that for holding. Wow. But great to get the sack!
Nice kick
points please.
Okay Strev.... less than 2 minutes before half.... no interception please
Wow guys, I didn't see holding there at all.
Jake was just flopping around.
Hahahaha Jake Thomas. That angle looked significantly less like a hold and more like he wanted a holding penalty.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on September 20, 2025, 08:09:50 PMCan't get any more obvious than that for holding. Wow. But great to get the sack!
Yup but at least one still critical of Jake
Ottawa playing that back up punter
Should be bringing heat to shake him and get a block
Quote from: Jesse on September 20, 2025, 08:10:47 PMWow guys, I didn't see holding there at all.
Jake was just flopping around.
It's embarrassing.
gotta catch that wilson - hard or not
Kick coverage back to bad lol
Kramdi beast
Quote from: The Zipp on September 20, 2025, 08:11:50 PMgotta catch that wilson - hard or not
Yeah, if Strev makes it catchable you gotta take advantage.
#1d lol
Come down to winterpeg
Pressure. Thank you football gods.
Here comes the Strev pre half pick 6 ;D
Another great kick
It's a punters duo lol
BBB please
Strev hurt there?
this offense can't get 5 yards
ottawa should have called timeout - don't understand
I don't think that was a planned QB draw. Why would you have two receivers hooked over the middle?
Lmao, did everyone hear that? Wilson has the only completing so far.
Streveler has completed one pass.
47 eats
Ayers shouldn't be in lineup they said(strip)
ST beast
O'Shea drawing up 5 year extention for Ayers at half time.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 08:16:18 PMI don't think that was a planned QB draw. Why would you have two receivers hooked over the middle?
Was a scrambled play
I would have ran the rock
This game might prove that the only thing worse than Streveler is Ottawa.
we are a one pass team.
i hope we don't complete another and still win
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 08:17:08 PMO'Shea drawing up 5 year extention for Ayers at half time.
What price lol guaranteed $ lol
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 08:17:08 PMO'Shea drawing up 5 year extention for Ayers at half time.
If we'd use him on defence, it would be worth it.
Id still put Terry in 2nd half
If anything Ottawa would never expect it
Quote from: The Zipp on September 20, 2025, 08:18:26 PMwe are a one pass team.
i hope we don't complete another and still win
I hope we complete 10 and run 20 and put up 3 tds
Quote from: Sway on September 20, 2025, 08:18:37 PMId still put Terry in 2nd half
If anything Ottawa would never expect it
Terrible idea imo
Good way to zap momemtum
Quote from: Jesse on September 20, 2025, 08:18:33 PMIf we'd use him on defence, it would be worth it.
It will come
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 08:19:38 PMTerrible idea imo
Good way to zap momemtum
How.
Strev has one completion to the Bombers and one to the Redblacks.
Milt telling the truth about Strev.
Streveler - 1/5 11yds 0TD 1INT
This is NOT why we are winning.
Dru 16/20 162yds 1TD 1INT
Can you imagine if we had ANY QB success
Sure wish Zach would get some of this support sometimes.
Streveler at half time: 1 out of 5 passes for 11 yards. One int returned about 20 yards. Pathetic.
Offence: Have we ever considered NOT running up the middle to start every series? Geez.
Vaval may have to win this game on his own. Great return on a missed FG.
Jake Thomas made a play when Jefferson got his sack. He forced Brown backwards.
Cam Allen got beat for the early TD but then got his int that led to our 2nd TD. He's a keeper.
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 08:19:38 PMTerrible idea imo
Good way to zap momemtum
The momentum with 1 yards passing in an entire half? We aren't winning because of the offence at the moment.
Streveler 1 of 5 for 11 yards and an INT. That is a perfect 0 pass efficiency rating.
You can't get any lower, despite the fact that the CFL is showing a negative rating (broken formula).
Yikes 1/5 for 11 yards is beyond awful
Quote from: Jesse on September 20, 2025, 08:21:00 PMHow.
Strev has one completion to the Bombers and one to the Redblacks.
By putting in a raw unproven rookie on the road when the Bombers are somehow grinding out a decent road game
I like Wilson but not the time imo
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 20, 2025, 08:23:35 PMThe momentum with 1 yards passing in an entire half? We aren't winning because of the offence at the moment.
I agree we will not win this one with Stev as our QB. Only 1 completion in the first half - that is a joke!
TSN with that drunk song NA NA NA, just as bad as the gambling commercials.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 20, 2025, 08:23:35 PMThe momentum with 1 yards passing in an entire half? We aren't winning because of the offence at the moment.
Momentum in general
We have the wind at the moment
Don't break it by potentially having your rookie QB gift it back
Quote from: barbk on September 20, 2025, 08:27:56 PMTSN with that drunk song NA NA NA, just as bad as the gambling commercials.
Gets me cross but the masses lap it up half cut
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 08:27:02 PMBy putting in a raw unproven rookie on the road when the Bombers are somehow grinding out a decent road game
I like Wilson but not the time imo
He literally can't do worse than a QBR of 0.
11 passing yards ahahahhahaha
This is actually a bit depressing to watch.
And Dru Brown has overall, since going to Ottawa, done very little.
No doubt a Bunch of reasons for that.
Edit ..... he throws a fifty yard completion as I hit "post"
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 08:27:02 PMBy putting in a raw unproven rookie on the road when the Bombers are somehow grinding out a decent road game
I like Wilson but not the time imo
What are you worried about?
Worried Wilson will throw a pick?
Or make a completion?
We some how win this game and O'Shea will put gushing how Strev willed the team with 11 yards passing
geeeeeeno owns us
Hold them to a FG
Someone needs to remind Houston that he has to cover for 12 seconds so he can't jump slants. Ever.
Bend don't break
Quote from: theaardvark on September 20, 2025, 08:35:18 PMWhat are you worried about?
Worried Wilson will throw a pick?
Or make a completion?
Momentum
Putting a rookie in a pressure cooked situation
Putting a rookie in a game when he didn't get 1st team reps
Losing
they got back the fg they gave up on the fumble
haven't been that impressed with ottawa offense. tommy condell is kinda meh
Dru Brown is going to rack up yards.
The defence and ST are doing all they can. Offence needs to do something, anything. Even just using up some clock time and trying to win the field position battle.
Quote from: Jesse on September 20, 2025, 08:40:04 PMDru Brown is going to rack up yards.
The defence and ST are doing all they can. Offence needs to do something, anything. Even just using up some clock time and trying to win the field position battle.
All on the O to limit theirs
Run straight up the gut in first down.
::)
One completion.
Thanks Lapo you are right
Careful what with wish for
Hate to tell you but Alex Brink was better.
Quote from: Jesse on September 20, 2025, 08:41:00 PMRun straight up the gut in first down.
::)
It's how we run the ball successfully
We had almost 100 yards rushing 1st half
ottawa should blitz more often. it freezes strev
Quote from: The Zipp on September 20, 2025, 08:42:36 PMottawa should blitz more often. it freezes strev
Yup
Deer headlights
Nice snag
Ottawa has done nice halftime adjustments, where is ours?
I'm eating bird on Parker
He can still play corner
Quote from: barbk on September 20, 2025, 08:45:33 PMOttawa has done nice halftime adjustments, where is ours?
We don't adjust lol
Willie is a top DL end of
Double jump magic
Bend no breakie
Missy Missy
Special teamies
Hahaha Vaval literally is going to win this game for us.
darn. thought he might go again
is lewis ward washed?
Vaval again, he loves playing out east
Darn ran out of real estate, thought Vaval would get another
Quote from: The Zipp on September 20, 2025, 08:48:10 PMdarn. thought he might go again
is lewis ward washed?
Numbers are down this year
It is windy?
Quote from: The Zipp on September 20, 2025, 08:48:10 PMdarn. thought he might go again
is lewis ward washed?
He misses Rod Black.
Vaval proving me right
Don't make a rookie do two jobs
Do one well and learn from there
People suggested he could do both
Clear this is better
Run it again please
Up the gut
run up the middle - inventive - wow
OMG this is hard to watch
This is embarrassing to watch.
What's the record for lowest passing yards and still winning ?
This announcing duo is good
Gotta run the rock
Quote from: Jesse on September 20, 2025, 08:51:14 PMThis is embarrassing to watch.
Nah we doing as good as we can considering
Quote from: Jesse on September 20, 2025, 08:51:14 PMThis is embarrassing to watch.
Same two plays every drive.
Another magic kick
What would the harm be in putting Terry in?
Bruising Osheas ego?
it's just a joke at this point
Who is Streveler kidding when he gets up mad every two and out?
Quote from: bluengold204 on September 20, 2025, 08:51:56 PMSame two plays every drive.
Run run pass please gotta mix it up lol
Quote from: Sway on September 20, 2025, 08:51:17 PMWhat's the record for lowest passing yards and still winning ?
We won't be winning this game. D will eventually get tired and they will score if we keep going two and out
why are we even bothering to pass? If its not streveler its the oline. and why arent we bring in 6 linemen...
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 08:52:22 PMWho is Streveler kidding when he gets up mad every two and out?
He is an emotional guy and that how he is built.
Just like when he makes a play he gets jacked
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 08:51:46 PMNah we doing as good as we can considering
That's what's embarrassing. We've seen a lot a back-up QBs across the league this year, can't think of a worse performance. And this is from a 7 year vet.
Quote from: Pete on September 20, 2025, 08:53:15 PMwhy are we even bothering to pass? If its not streveler its the oline. and why arent we bring in 6 linemen...
Brings more players to the box
Quote from: bluengold204 on September 20, 2025, 08:53:02 PMWe won't be winning this game. D will eventually get tired and they will score if we keep going two and out
that's the problem
Quote from: Jesse on September 20, 2025, 08:53:34 PMThat's what's embarrassing. We've seen a lot a back-up QBs across the league this year, can't think of a worse performance. And this is from a 7 year vet.
It is what it is
The overall performance is not embarrassing
That RTP hurts BAD!!!!
What an idiot bench him
Dirty hit Tony.
Stupid hit
It's over simplifying it but TJ could cost us the game with that penalty if they get pts
Oh thank God they didn't
Jesus save us lol
Deep ball not there
Good game on the back end
Kramdi is a beast
ottawa isn't very good
Hogan calling ottawas plays?
On 1st down let Strev go deep this time. Mix it up
This is game
Need to get to mid field
Nice no yards
Will Hogan remember to give Demski his fake reception this week?
Quote from: Sway on September 20, 2025, 08:58:33 PMHogan calling ottawas plays?
On 1st down let Strev go deep this time. Mix it up
I am not going deep, deep in my end
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 08:53:59 PMBrings more players to the box
maybe so but what we are doing is ending up with Strev sacked
Untypical for bombers really dirty hit by Jones
can we get a first down? i think yet again we have a quarter with no to 1 or 2 first downs - this isn't just on strev either
demski needs a catch - just run a jet sweep with him
Those kind of hits happen in football. Dru Brown gets up. Collaros' night would be done.
Quote from: Pete on September 20, 2025, 08:59:07 PMmaybe so but what we are doing is ending up with Strev sacked
What we doing on 2nd down = bad
Time to mix it up!
this is just stupid, we need a new oc
RUN UP THE MIDDLE GUYS!!
6 ol and run stopped
Streveler - 0 pass attempts in the 2nd half so far?
Why put receivers on the field, just put all FB's and OLine and toss in Jake...
Guess if you don't throw it you can't throw a pick.
His confidence is done.
He HAS to come out.
They NEVER use Mitchell so bench him for a 6th Olinemen as Strev needs as much help as possible.
Same two plays again
Yup love our adjustments at the half but stick to the process
and we dont bring in Wilson, Why?
Quote from: Pete on September 20, 2025, 09:00:53 PMthis is just stupid, we need a new oc
Only so much we can do with Strev
But yes calling is bad
Hogan sucks but what would you call if your quarterback has ONE completion heading into the forth quarter?
Absolutely pathetic
Was that a called draw too?
SAME, SAME
this is embarrassing that this is being portrayed as a professional offense
Amazing punt
Good coverage
Another rtp
Terrible
Quote from: barbk on September 20, 2025, 09:01:40 PMYup love our adjustments at the half but stick to the process
Please give us an OC and a QB that can at least throw the ball!
that was not rtp
Willie back to half trying half the plays
We'll never get RTP... strev can't throw
Who came in for Parker?
the qb has 11 yes thats right 11 yards passing after 3 qtrs , has made one good run.. and you dont consider putting in someone else? Lets learn to coach
One completion.
Streveler is the worst QB this team has ever had. The fact they have failed to obtain a young capable QB that will be groomed to take over from Collaros for the past 3 years, is ineptitude at its peak.
Winnipeg deserves to miss the playoffs.
5 first downs in 3 quarters of football
11 yards passing
My grandson who is only 10 can throw more than 10 yards accurately. Oh but Strev can win the team games.
This will be the most winnable game in history lost because O'Shea didn't want to give another player a chance.
Quote from: barbk on September 20, 2025, 09:07:43 PMMy grandson who is only 10 can throw more than 10 yards accurately. Oh but Strev can win the team games.
That's not fair and is disrespectful imo
Cam Allen!!!
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 09:08:14 PMThis will be the most winnable game in history lost because O'Shea didn't want to give another player a chance.
This aged poorly
D can win it
**** - we needed to score
Hit the QB. Get picks. Thank you.
Holding jesus
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 09:08:46 PMThis aged poorly
D can win it
Hopefully. Because Streveler can't.
Interesting game plan,don't throw INT's so don't throw the ball.
Quote from: bwiser on September 20, 2025, 09:10:15 PMInteresting game plan,don't throw INT's so don't throw the ball.
Lol
1st and 20
Strev runs up the middle for nothing
Terry should be getting every 1st team rep in practice
Hey Streveler off this team. He is beyond horrible.
that has to be a flag
That was a top qb throw and now a guy hurt
No flag on hitting a defenceless receiver?
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 09:08:25 PMThat's not fair and is disrespectful imo
IMO please don't comment on my posts
Quote from: Jesse on September 20, 2025, 09:11:59 PMNope. Clean.
yah. thought he got hit in the head at first
The number of different crazy things this game is over the top
Quote from: The Zipp on September 20, 2025, 09:12:36 PMyah. thought he got hit in the head at first
Me too. Perfect hit though.
The rules of a defenseless receiver are no more?
to
Strevy- younger offense. 0 first downs in the second half.
Command centre is a joke, Bradbury is incompetent
Wonder how the wide receivers will rate Streveler's leadership ability after tonight?
Man this injury is huge
Can't catch a break
broken/bruised ribs
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 09:15:18 PMWonder how the wide receivers will rate Streveler's leadership ability after tonight?
they all want to play for a grindback not a quarterback
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 09:15:22 PMMan this injury is huge
Can't catch a break
Injury chance goes way up if you're playing with a quarterback who can't read a defense.
Any receiver will tell you that.
no first downs, 11 yards passing 100 yards total offence. But remember 2019 strev?
Time for a 2022 Bomber Drive to seal the victory
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 09:16:57 PMInjury chance goes way up if you're playing with a quarterback who can't read a defense.
Any receiver will tell you that.
Has nothing to do with that play
Nice throw good catch
Picket is a top player and eliminated it
Yes you are correct in general
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 09:18:20 PMHas nothing to do with that play
Nice throw good catch
Picket is a top player and eliminated it
Yes you are correct in general
I wonder what Keric thinks?
Oh look, a run up the gut on first down.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 09:20:02 PMI wonder what Keric thinks?
That he caught a ball crossing route and good player made a play on him imo
Football is a contact sport and high risk
Catching in traffic key to being a good receiver
Off topic... the suitor and friends play by play last night reach new depths of stink.
Suitor and humour... two things that are never experienced at the same time.
But he thinks he's the new Dave Chappelle.
What a mess.
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 09:20:45 PMThat he caught a ball crossing route and good player made a play on him imo
So long as you're sure.
Oh look, Strev took off with the ball on 2nd down.
FIRST DOWN
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 09:21:12 PMSo long as you're sure.
It's not about being wrong or wrong
We both have an opinion
Perhaps leave it at that and please drop it
We said our piece
just get demski a catch
BBB is back
Hogan letting Strev call his own plays
Qb draw all day
Quote from: The Zipp on September 20, 2025, 09:22:49 PMjust get demski a catch
Meh, who cares.
It's a sham record anyway.
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 09:22:41 PMIt's not about being wrong or wrong
We both have an opinion
Perhaps leave it at that and please drop it
We said our piece
I can comment however I want, thanks.
Quote from: Jesse on September 20, 2025, 09:23:27 PMMeh, who cares.
It's a sham record anyway.
Oh we care get him the ball
Is it possible to win and go down in the power rankings?
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 09:23:48 PMI can comment however I want, thanks.
We are here to talk ball please focus on that no me thanks
You previous comment was unnecessary imo
Nice play
td wins the game
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 09:23:48 PMI can comment however I want, thanks.
You would think he would learn that we can comment and post what we want but according to him its disresptful IMO
Find someone who loves you as much as Streveler loves running for no gain on second down.
Quote from: barbk on September 20, 2025, 09:26:31 PMYou would think he would learn that we can comment and post what we want but according to him its disresptful IMO
The rule is that he can comment on every single post but people cannot comment on his.
Quote from: The Zipp on September 20, 2025, 09:26:00 PMtd wins the game
had it and grindback couldn't get the ball out
It was disrespectful to state a 10 year old is better than Strev
My dialog with sir blue in gold was an attempt to focus on the game and not me
It had nothing to do with respect but staying on topic
If you think about this from the Ottawa perspective, It's basically rock bottom.
Quote from: Jesse on September 20, 2025, 09:27:27 PMThe rule is that he can comment on every single post but people cannot comment on his.
Not true at all. I like both sides of the story. I asked sir and Gold nicely to drop it when he stopped talking about football when he focused on me. Yes I'll comment on opinions about the game. I like when people challenge each other.
This is a gdt, let's not make it the pj thread, we all have our posting styles
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 09:29:41 PMIf you think about this from the Ottawa perspective, It's basically rock bottom.
They've been the definition of rock bottom for years. This is just more of the same.
If they'd had pulled us down with them, that's a big hit on us though.
Id put Crumm in if I were Ottawa
Bomber d would fall all over them selves
Class is Lawson play
Quote from: Sway on September 20, 2025, 09:31:17 PMId put Crumm in if I were Ottawa
Bomber d would fall all over them selves
Would be a sure way to lose the game imo
Nichols hurt now
nichols hurt now
hoping just a cramp
is Crum actually better than Dru Brown?
stop the 3rd and 2 and prob win the game
Quote from: The Zipp on September 20, 2025, 09:35:01 PMnichols hurt now
hoping just a cramp
is Crum actually better than Dru Brown?
stop the 3rd and 2 and prob win the game
Crum is not better than Dru
Lawson in
Vaval makes a play, he is our future
Nice stop on our D
don't think that was a great play call
brown is overrated IMO
Doesn't anybody want to talk about the game? we're not here to talk about posters. Looks like we just might steal this one.
Demski still no catches?
12 point lead.3 and 1/2 minutes to go. Feeling that old familiar dread that they could still blow this...
Quote from: bomb squad on September 20, 2025, 09:36:57 PMDoesn't anybody want to talk about the game? we're not here to talk about posters. Looks like we just might steal this one.
Thanks for this
We all want to talk ball and there is little value in talking about posters
Highway robbery lol
Possible the worst win in Bombers history
A wins a win though
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 09:37:01 PMDemski still no catches?
There's only been 2 catches in the game, lol.
Mitchell is going be in line for more targets with Wheatfall possibly on the shelf for a bit.
Quote from: The Zipp on September 20, 2025, 09:36:45 PMdon't think that was a great play call
brown is overrated IMO
Agree both
Mitchell is looking good at times
Nice run strev grind it away my friend
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 09:38:33 PMMitchell is going be in line for more targets with Wheatfall possibly on the shelf for a bit.
Yeah good point was curious on that adjustment
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on September 20, 2025, 09:37:28 PM12 point lead.3 and 1/2 minutes to go. Feeling that old familiar dread that they could still blow this...
We got this.
Quote from: Sway on September 20, 2025, 09:38:00 PMPossible the worst win in Bombers history
A wins a win though
Disagree
2 out 3 phases great
One phase bad
Not even close to worst ever imo
I'm going to guess a CFL team has never won a game with two completed passes...?
Paging Stats Junkie?
BBB is back
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 09:40:51 PMI'm going to guess a CFL team has never won a game with two completed passes...?
Paging Stats Junkie?
they have prob won with 0 but likely way back in time
Hard to believe we didn't make use of a short passing game with Brady and Demski.
Quote from: The Zipp on September 20, 2025, 09:41:48 PMthey have won with 0
People always forget how old the CFL is. Passing is relatively new to the game.
Is this the end for poor Bob Dyce?
A fantastic grinding road victory and we are back baby
Zach we need you
Quote from: Jesse on September 20, 2025, 09:43:13 PMPeople always forget how old the CFL is. Passing is relatively new to the game.
yah. in the last 30 years it would be rare
Luckily I have tsn + with
"Enhanced data feed"
Or this game would have been boring. 😂
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 09:43:41 PMIs this the end for poor Bob Dyce?
Not much point in making the change at this point, but his discharge papers are signed in a drawer waiting for the end of the season.
Quote from: Jesse on September 20, 2025, 09:44:59 PMNot much point in making the change at this point, but his discharge papers are signed in a drawer waiting for the end of the season.
Lol
Oshea meant the year 1919 Streveler
Good game by the defence. 3 man rush wasn't working in the first half, but it did in the second. Broke up a lot of passes.
The big talking point is how long is Wheat out and is Nichols ok
Quote from: bomb squad on September 20, 2025, 09:46:16 PMGood game by the defence. 3 man rush wasn't working in the first half, but it did in the second. Broke up a lot of passes.
They were able to hit Dru. Might not have been strictly legal but absolutely had a quicker clock going in his head afterwards. The second pick was 100% because he had just been rocked twice and we had the line loaded up and were coming again.
ottawa is not a very good team
dru brown might be overrated and is injury prone.
win despite some of the worst QB'ing i have ever seen in my life.
the worst
3 completed passes, the hand off / pass to Mitchell has been changed to a "pass".
This QB performance would have had to be twice as good to consider it just embarrassing.
Glad we won but probably the worst game I've ever watched
Quote from: The Zipp on September 20, 2025, 09:47:46 PMottawa is not a very good team
dru brown might be overrated and is injury prone.
win despite some of the worst QB'ing i have ever seen in my life.
the worst
Did you watch Troy Copp, Sammy Garza and company? I have seen worse and lots of 50 burgers on us. Terrible passing game, Strev managed the game well for turnovers, run well at times and limited turnovers.
Quote from: bluengold204 on September 20, 2025, 09:48:23 PMGlad we won but probably the worst game I've ever watched
Disagree game had it's moments
We just laid a passing egg lol
Man I predicted one turnover, happy that came true.
Other teams watching this are laughing
Did Demski lose his streak today?
Very Lame coaching if so.
If ZC isn't playing next week, I hope Hogan does a better game plan against Hamilton and company
Quote from: markf on September 20, 2025, 09:52:45 PMDid Demski lose his streak today?
Very Lame coaching if so.
Sad
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 09:48:33 PMDid you watch Troy Copp, Sammy Garza and company? I have seen worse and lots of 50 burgers on us. Terrible passing game, Strev managed the game well for turnovers, run well at times and limited turnovers.
watched them all and this qb performance was the worst. better team than the ones you mentioned but 3/8 is the worst i have seen.
Quote from: markf on September 20, 2025, 09:52:45 PMDid Demski lose his streak today?
Very Lame coaching if so.
You can't expect Hogan to think of that AND read the book.
From CFL head statistician Steve Daniel: the @Wpg_BlueBombers beat Edmonton 18-14 on August 25, 1960 with zero yards passing.
Quote from: Sway on September 20, 2025, 09:52:23 PMOther teams watching this are laughing
Laughing at Ottawa
With Zach they can't laugh on us
Can you win a Grey Cup running the wishbone?
Quote from: markf on September 20, 2025, 09:52:45 PMDid Demski lose his streak today?
Very Lame coaching if so.
lol. Absolute least of our concerns. We had two completed passes.
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 09:52:08 PMMan I predicted one turnover, happy that came true.
You honestly thought that was entertaining?
Quote from: The Zipp on September 20, 2025, 09:53:25 PMwatched them all and this qb performance was the worst. better team than the ones you mentioned but 3/8 is the worst i have seen.
All good agree to disagree
Qb is more than just passing imo
Those other bad qbs from our dark past did nothing well
Demski's consecutive pass reception record blown up by Streveler's incompetence.
Hogan/Streveler should have had Demski run that shovel pass instead of Mitchell...
ST's and D were pretty solid, worried about Nichols...
Wilson needs ever snap in practice this week.
If Collaros is back next week, Streveler to the PR?
Quote from: The Zipp on September 20, 2025, 09:53:40 PMFrom CFL head statistician Steve Daniel: the @Wpg_BlueBombers beat Edmonton 18-14 on August 25, 1960 with zero yards passing.
Sooooo 65 years ago. Lol. Wow.
Quote from: bluengold204 on September 20, 2025, 09:54:38 PMYou honestly thought that was entertaining?
Yes I do
ST great
D good
Run game good
I feel bad for Demski. Lose the streak because Strev can't throw. That's just sad.
Quote from: theaardvark on September 20, 2025, 09:54:58 PMDemski's consecutive pass reception record blown up by Streveler's incompetence.
Hogan/Streveler should have had Demski run that shovel pass instead of Mitchell...
ST's and D were pretty solid, worried about Nichols...
Wilson needs ever snap in practice this week.
If Collaros is back next week, Streveler to the PR?
It was a dumb "record" anyway. Not sure how you can claim to have consecutive games with receptions when there are many games he missed in between.
Quote from: Jesse on September 20, 2025, 09:56:23 PMIt was a dumb "record" anyway. Not sure how you can claim to have consecutive games with receptions when there are many games he missed in between.
Disagree the record mattered to me and many others
TIME TO TRADE FOR CRUM "NOW", he will leave Ottawa next year anyway so they might as well get something now
Quote from: Blue72 on September 20, 2025, 09:59:40 PMTIME TO TRADE FOR CRUM "NOW", he will leave Ottawa next year anyway so they might as well get something now
Pass if Zach is back we good at QB for now
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 20, 2025, 10:01:34 PMTotally. Streveler is way better.
Didn't say that
Not interested in Crum if Zach is back which I expect
Yeah I think the 10 year old could have completed a couple more passes than Streveler. How sad is that??? One of his 3 passes was actually a forward hand off that counts as a pass.
Allen is making a name for himself.
I don't think Nichols will miss any time. Ankle twisted / cramped? Parker got nicked and I'm not sure he came back but that also looked like an ankle maybe. He can't start 1 game and then get hurt again.
So. What changes to the roster get made that resulted from this performance on offence. We might have lost Wheatfall to the 6 game IR if he broke or bruised his ribs. Didn't look good. Time for Echols I guess.
There are underserved wins and there are UNDERSERVED WINS. That was one of them.
Big thanks to Lewis Ward for missing 2 mid-length field goals and a big thanks to Vaval for 2 big returns on those misses. Pretty much the difference in the game.
Quote from: blueandgoldguy on September 20, 2025, 10:15:57 PMThere are underserved wins and there are UNDERSERVED WINS. That was one of them.
Big thanks to Lewis Ward for missing 2 mid-length field goals and a big thanks to Vaval for 2 big returns on those misses. Pretty much the difference in the game.
The passing game didn't deserve to win, but it's a team game and our ST and defence outplayed the Redblacks by more than the offence was outplayed.
Ugly, but it's a win. Strev. 3/8 54 yards, 1 Int.
Corcoran leading receiver with 24 yards.
But I will say our D was pretty good tonight. gave up yardage, but held Ottawa off the score board.
Brother was at the game. Said staff was working on Parkers knee. O. Wilson had is ankle taped.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 20, 2025, 10:11:40 PMYeah I think the 10 year old could have completed a couple more passes than Streveler. How sad is that??? One of his 3 passes was actually a forward hand off that counts as a pass.
Allen is making a name for himself.
I don't think Nichols will miss any time. Ankle twisted / cramped? Parker got nicked and I'm not sure he came back but that also looked like an ankle maybe. He can't start 1 game and then get hurt again.
So. What changes to the roster get made that resulted from this performance on offence. We might have lost Wheatfall to the 6 game IR if he broke or bruised his ribs. Didn't look good. Time for Echols I guess.
I find the 10 year old comment disrespectful, not fair or accurate Strev had another bad game but threw a few good balls but mostly bad ones
Good news on Nichols
Yeah 6 game for Wheat
How does Echols look at practice anyone?
Allen looked bad early but came after that. A great sign and future star in a year or two.
Bad news about Wilson and Parker
Quote from: The Zipp on September 20, 2025, 09:53:40 PMFrom CFL head statistician Steve Daniel: the @Wpg_BlueBombers beat Edmonton 18-14 on August 25, 1960 with zero yards passing.
:D
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 20, 2025, 10:11:40 PMAllen is making a name for himself.
Ya, except on Dru's first 2 drives every single completion (many big) was against Allen one-on-one. He was brutal to start. However, hand it to him and Younger, they seemed to find solutions after that.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 20, 2025, 10:11:40 PMI don't think Nichols will miss any time.
I don't know. It was a total non-contact injury. The jump did it. What kind of non-contact occurs on a jump? Guess it could be ACL or achilles. But then he looked pretty ok walking off. So I'm not sure anyone can say.
Losing Nichols would be disaster for our takes-forever-to-learn complicated DB scheme. Same with Holm. Those guys just have to stay healthy.
Quote from: theaardvark on September 20, 2025, 09:54:58 PMDemski's consecutive pass reception record blown up by Streveler's incompetence.
Hogan/Streveler should have had Demski run that shovel pass instead of Mitchell...
But then it wouldn't have worked. Everyone expects the Demski sweep because we run it a lot. No one expects the any-other-REC sweep, because we use it rarely.
Quote from: markf on September 20, 2025, 09:52:45 PMDid Demski lose his streak today?
Very Lame coaching if so.
I really think Hogan & co thought that Demski catch earlier in the game counted. But it was taken away with penalty. That usually makes it so the play "never happened". Unless there is some strange rule that says it still counts for this kind of silly record?
On our last drive I was saying to the screen -- need to shovel it to Demski because we aren't getting the ball back!
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 21, 2025, 12:02:31 AMBut it worked, didn't it?
It worked despite almost anything we did on offense, yes.
Quote from: Sway on September 20, 2025, 09:24:59 PMIs it possible to win and go down in the power rankings?
Yes! Happened before to other teams. However, no way we can go lower than OTT!
Quote from: Jesse on September 20, 2025, 09:23:27 PMIt's a sham record anyway.
Except it's equally a sham for every REC. Other teams get their REC gimmicky "catches" too. Seen it many times with Gino, etc.
So if you accept it for what it is, it's a quirky stat at best. What it really does measure is a REC's injury-avoidance. Since you won't always get a pass early in the game, you need to finish games (or get close) to keep your streak going for dozens or 100's of games. Demski was such a player.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 20, 2025, 11:59:10 PMYa, except on Dru's first 2 drives every single completion (many big) was against Allen one-on-one. He was brutal to start. However, hand it to him and Younger, they seemed to find solutions after that.
Good adjustments
Allen is venerable but will learn
Quote from: jdrattops on September 20, 2025, 09:14:13 PMThe rules of a defenseless receiver are no more?
CFL has never had such a rule. After seeing stuff like this I think we need to look to the NFL and institute a defenseless REC rule.
Later in the game we had a chance to blow up a REC on a wide out and our guy (Kramdi?) decided to do a form tackle. Pickett could have done the same. It was typical Pickett, and they were probably itching to retaliate for Dru getting hit twice.
The difference is, Dru won't miss any time, but Wheatie is out for weeks with busted ribs and maybe concussion.
Yes there is. It's just thatWheatfall wasn't in what the rules outline as a vulnerable position.
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 21, 2025, 12:10:23 AMExcept it's equally a sham for every REC. Other teams get their REC gimmicky "catches" too. Seen it many times with Gino, etc.
So if you accept it for what it is, it's a quirky stat at best. What it really does measure is a REC's injury-avoidance. Since you won't always get a pass early in the game, you need to finish games (or get close) to keep your streak going for dozens or 100's of games. Demski was such a player.
I think you misunderstand. I'm not talking about gimmicky catches, I'm talking about the fact that they don't count injuries.
Demski has missed many games and, imo, broken his consecutive catch streak multiple times. But they've only been counting games he's played in.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 21, 2025, 12:22:24 AMYes there is. It's just thatWheatfall wasn't in what the rules outline as a vulnerable position.
No there isn't. Not like there is in the NFL. Protecting below-the-knee hits would not help in this situation. NFL has had rules to keep from just blowing players up like this while they are still in the act of catching the ball. Rules that would protect even a shoulder-to-chest hit.
The issue is can a DB absolutely blow up a REC right as he's catching it, even if "legal", cracking ribs, etc, when a form tackle like Kramdi does on everyone would suffice?
Yes, the CFL has always allowed this hit. The question is, should we continue? Pickett got his pass break-up, but Wheatie got put in hospital. Is it worth it?
Quote from: Jesse on September 21, 2025, 12:40:45 AMI think you misunderstand. I'm not talking about gimmicky catches, I'm talking about the fact that they don't count injuries.
Demski has missed many games and, imo, broken his consecutive catch streak multiple times. But they've only been counting games he's played in.
Ya, but there's basically no REC that doesn't miss some time every other season. Not even Demski. If you went with those rules, then you'd have a max of 10 or 14 for that stat, and it would be even more silly. Or what about if they put the REC on the PR for a week?
The only way that would make sense is if Fatboi was a REC. He's the only player who never misses a game.
I think my point about in-game injuries is still more apropos. If you get knocked out early in games all the time, you're unlikely to get far in this stat.
Usually the criteria applied in the NFL is:
High contact, to the head, neck or shoulders
Launched contact, leaving both feet
This of course assumes the receiver hadn't transitioned to a runner yet which was pretty close but probably not complete.
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 10:54:19 PMI find the 10 year old comment disrespectful, not fair or accurate Strev had another bad game but threw a few good balls but mostly bad ones
Good news on Nichols
Yeah 6 game for Wheat
How does Echols look at practice anyone?
Allen looked bad early but came after that. A great sign and future star in a year or two.
Bad news about Wilson and Parker
That was the worst performance by a Bomber QB I can remember. Take off the Blue and Gold glasses. Nothing is disrespectful about judging a players performance and pathetic. We won i spite of him.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 21, 2025, 01:11:14 AMThat was the worst performance by a Bomber QB I can remember.
I don't know... that 2019-throwback near-TD run was pretty cool, and very effective.
Plus, he WON.
Plus #2, he was probably under STRICT instructions to not throw any more INTs. They knew the ST and D was winning the game. There is zero reason to take any chances.
Plus #3, did you see how every OTT D was trying to jump the routes on the dumb everyone-curls 2nd & mediums? I don't blame Strev for not throwing into that crap. Hogan setting everyone up to fail again.
I think he did exactly what was asked of him, minus that first INT.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 21, 2025, 01:11:14 AMThat was the worst performance by a Bomber QB I can remember. Take off the Blue and Gold glasses. Nothing is disrespectful about judging a players performance and pathetic. We won i spite of him.
It's not hard to be critical and respectful
Nothing to due with glasses
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 21, 2025, 01:08:43 AMYa, but there's basically no REC that doesn't miss some time every other season. Not even Demski. If you went with those rules, then you'd have a max of 10 or 14 for that stat, and it would be even more silly. Or what about if they put the REC on the PR for a week?
The only way that would make sense is if Fatboi was a REC. He's the only player who never misses a game.
I think my point about in-game injuries is still more apropos. If you get knocked out early in games all the time, you're unlikely to get far in this stat.
If that's what the record is, then that's what it is.
But saying it's a consecutive games with a reception record when there are games that occurred in which he did not record a reception is absolutely nonsensical to me.
Quote from: Jesse on September 21, 2025, 01:59:14 AMIf that's what the record is, then that's what it is.
But saying it's a consecutive games with a reception record when there are games that occurred in which he did not record a reception is absolutely nonsensical to me.
if you don't play you can't record stats like a catch. it's catches in consecutive games played.
it was dumb to try and not get him a catch. i am sure Demski is a little upset.
Quote from: The Zipp on September 21, 2025, 02:10:10 AMif you don't play you can't record stats like a catch. it's catches in consecutive games played.
it was dumb to try and not get him a catch. i am sure Demski is a little upset.
Being available to play is part of any record.
Quote from: Jesse on September 21, 2025, 01:59:14 AMIf that's what the record is, then that's what it is.
Ya, but that kind of begs the question. What you're saying is let's track a whole new useless stat. And that's fine, I wouldn't be against it. Now convince TSN/CFL.
Related: what REC has the most consecutive starts, where injury-missed-games end the streak? It's probably a low number.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 21, 2025, 02:21:22 AMYa, but that kind of begs the question. What you're saying is let's track a whole new useless stat. And that's fine, I wouldn't be against it. Now convince TSN/CFL.
Related: what REC has the most consecutive starts, where injury-missed-games end the streak? It's probably a low number.
I don't think it's a whole new stat. I thinks it's what the definition of consecutive games with a catch should be.
Quote from: The Zipp on September 21, 2025, 02:10:10 AMit was dumb to try and not get him a catch. i am sure Demski is a little upset.
I don't know, they often say in pressers they don't track or care about any of that stuff. Who knows if they're lying.
You just know the Sun guy will ask Demski in a presser this week! I guess it's a good thing Demski wasn't our top REC today, and thus won't be getting any post-game presser.
How close was Demski to beating the #1 all-time? If he wasn't even close, then who really cares. If he was 3 games away from being the best ever, ya, that would be upsetting.
Like who cares about some stupid record?? You're a receiver, you should have a catch in every game you play , it's part of your job!! Still why not do a bubble screen or something to keep him happy? Mind you with streveler that's a 50/50 chance it's incomplete anyways!!
If it doesn't count if you're hurt it also shouldn't count if your quarterback is a linebacker and your offensive coordinator called 35 straight a gap runs on first down?
Quote from: dd on September 21, 2025, 02:24:13 AMLike who cares about some stupid record?? You're a receiver, you should have a catch in every game you play , it's part of your job!! Still why not do a bubble screen or something to keep him happy? Mind you with streveler that's a 50/50 chance it's incomplete anyways!!
That's why Zach always does that little Demski fly sweep underhand toss of all of 1 foot in the air.
Hmm, I wonder then how much of that streak was on Zach doing it for Demski rather than our OC?? What if all this time the Demski sweep call was a hand-off and not a 1' "pass" and it was Zach making it a toss?
And yes, even Strev can make that 1' pass without an INT. LOL.
I think they all just forgot or thought the earlier non-pass counted. I mean, they had to know with 2 mins left up 15 they were going to go prevent-D and not see the ball again...
As for "who cares", it's done purely for the fans. TSN (and all football leagues) just love their little stats & numbers. It adds fan interest, especially when the game themselves are boring, like this week.
What I find odd is no one @TSN figured this out during the game to mention it? That would at least give them a talking point in an otherwise lame game.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 21, 2025, 01:11:14 AMThat was the worst performance by a Bomber QB I can remember. Take off the Blue and Gold glasses. Nothing is disrespectful about judging a players performance and pathetic. We won i spite of him.
Blueforlife send me 2 messages stating I took a shot at Stre comparing him to your grandson Double down on being wrong Go tell Strev on Saturday that your grandson can throw a better 10 yard pass Let me know Strevs response Your post wasn't fair and its disrespectful to Strev You don't like be challenged on your position
Can't take the heat Get out of the kitchen Do a spicy post and people will comment
Now who is being disrespecful in sending me these 2 messages? Unbelievable IMO
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 21, 2025, 02:28:02 AMIf it doesn't count if you're hurt it also shouldn't count if your quarterback is a linebacker and your offensive coordinator called 35 straight a gap runs on first down?
This gets my vote! Carve-out for incompetent OC scheme.
It's pretty sad when your OC has to come up with a game plan that doesn't feature passing the ball at all because your Qb can't pass!! But we pulled a rabbit out of a hat with that game, Vaval scoring a ST TD and Cam Allen picking off 2 passes, big big effort from D and St, because our O was very Pop Warner and basic, in fact it wasn't even pop Warner as they have a pass rule you have to pass 1 in every 4 plays, strev would be dead in today's youth league!
But seriously, hats off to the BB for pulling off a very unconventional win, that's 2 now with strev starting. It was only Ottawa but heck our playoff lives are still alive for another week
Let's hand if to our OL on run block. Many times during the game everyone knew we were going to run and we still managed to run. Yes, Brady got many 2Y stuffs, but he also got quite a few 5 & 6 & 10ers. And again, everyone knew we were running on 1st (and probably 2nd).
Doubly so at the end of the game. The hoggies got Brady near a 10Y average on that last drive even though the D *knew* we were going run-only.
So maybe this is one of the solutions to our crap pass pro. No pass, no need for pro.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 21, 2025, 03:03:48 AMLet's hand if to our OL on run block. Many times during the game everyone knew we were going to run and we still managed to run. Yes, Brady got many 2Y stuffs, but he also got quite a few 5 & 6 & 10ers. And again, everyone knew we were running on 1st (and probably 2nd).
Doubly so at the end of the game. The hoggies got Brady near a 10Y average on that last drive even though the D *knew* we were going run-only.
So maybe this is one of the solutions to our crap pass pro. No pass, no need for pro.
Make a good point
OL can't pass protect so don't bother
The run offense was good against an Ottawa club that is good against the run
Running the ball successfully when the world knows you will is a pillar of strength for any club and a sure way to secure victory
The best at it in our generation was Pringle and Mtl. Harris a very close 2nd. BBB building his case to challenge those greats imo.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 21, 2025, 12:03:41 AMBut then it wouldn't have worked. Everyone expects the Demski sweep because we run it a lot. No one expects the any-other-REC sweep, because we use it rarely.
Agree excellent play call
Re: Allen's 1st Q woes:
MOS's postgame he says at the beginning OTT hit them with stuff they weren't expecting, but they adjusted quickly. That is true, they did adjust pretty well by the 3rd or 4th OTT drive, before half time.
So it's not all on Allen, even though he was apparently "the guy" on every single mid/deep pass at first.
And Allen being the FS should never be the only guy in the picture anyhow. He's supposed to be backed up by the vets. After we made said adjustments almost nothing worked for Dru after that. So I would say on D we (finally!?) out-adjusted an opponent.
Now... if only we could do that on O!!
And thanks so much to gobombersgo et al who post the postgames and other videos to the "Video Links" sticky thread. So handy. They were on there more than 12 hours earlier than they show up on the bb.com site. (They STILL aren't up yet as of now!)
That thread is a godsend and I use it nearly every day.
Quote from: barbk on September 21, 2025, 02:34:14 AMBlueforlife send me 2 messages stating I took a shot at Stre comparing him to your grandson Double down on being wrong Go tell Strev on Saturday that your grandson can throw a better 10 yard pass Let me know Strevs response Your post wasn't fair and its disrespectful to Strev You don't like be challenged on your position
Can't take the heat Get out of the kitchen Do a spicy post and people will comment
Now who is being disrespecful in sending me these 2 messages? Unbelievable IMO
I like spicey. I'm not sure anyone could / should support Streveler's performance. Whether the 10 year old kid could throw a better pass being over the line is debatable.
3 completions and one was a forward hand off. One nearly got our receiver killed and one int.
Can anyone think of any QB in any game, in any league having that little success as a passer? Yikes.
EDIT: In game 1 he had 3 TD's and 1 int. Since then he has 3 TD's and 10 int's.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 21, 2025, 01:38:32 PMI like spicey. I'm not sure anyone could / should support Streveler's performance. Whether the 10 year old kid could throw a better pass being over the line is debatable.
3 completions and one was a forward hand off. One nearly got our receiver killed and one int.
Can anyone think of any QB in any game, in any league having that little success as a passer? Yikes.
i have watched football for decades and for a starting QB (albeit backup) that was the WORST i have seen. backups as in game replacements havelikely done worse.
imagine how ottawa fans must feel - hahahaha get beat like that when your qb throws for over 400??
D and ST were excellent.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 21, 2025, 11:22:47 AMRe: Allen's 1st Q woes:
MOS's postgame he says at the beginning OTT hit them with stuff they weren't expecting, but they adjusted quickly. That is true, they did adjust pretty well by the 3rd or 4th OTT drive, before half time.
So it's not all on Allen, even though he was apparently "the guy" on every single mid/deep pass at first.
And Allen being the FS should never be the only guy in the picture anyhow. He's supposed to be backed up by the vets. After we made said adjustments almost nothing worked for Dru after that. So I would say on D we (finally!?) out-adjusted an opponent.
Now... if only we could do that on O!!
Very insightful. Nice to see the adjustment. I was thinking we needed to put Parker at safety early and boy was I wrong. This kid is progressing quicker than I expected. Yes adjustments on O is one of our biggest issues.
Vaval, Allen and Woodbey have been nice finds this season.
I think Vaval might be given more chance as a DB next year but at the moment focusing on the return game seems optimum.
He does add depth as a DB for this season when needed.
Woodbey seems to be on the field most of the time. At times almost invisible and I say that in a good way.
Allen has some size and athleticism. His int's didn't fall into the most difficult I've seen but he was in the right place and made the plays. What I liked more was what I'd call good football IQ on the returns he made following his blockers etc.
I think that helped make the choice to put Parker at CB.
I cannot believe all this talk about the streak. Statistics are for losers. That's a saying for a reason.
More important is that we are still alive though I am not sure for how long. Winning like that is not sustainable. The most entertaining part of the game was when Strev ran my gf would hunch over like a buffalo, move her upper body side to side and stomp her feet. Spot on. You wonder how much faster he would be with any kind of correct form.
That was literally the most disappointing win I have experienced as a fan.
The outstanding bend don't break defence, the ST dominance and Vaval's TD MFG return, all of it was overshadowed by the cringe on every down offensive performance.
After the early INT, every play became an adventure, and not a good one, one from a horror story.
Rewatching it, OTT was not smothering the Rec's in any way, the deep pass to Corcoran was so wide open *I* could have hit him, and he sat there WAVING at Streveler to throw him the ball.
3 rec's (including the hand off pass) was not a gem of a defensive game by Ott.
It was a complete breakdown of any capacity for a QB to make a decision and carry it out. Even though he had every snap in practice this week.
Streveler made a deer in the headlights look like an all star. I do not doubt his heart or drive, but his skill set *under pressure* has eroded to a non-competitive level.
Tucking and running and still getting stopped behind the LOS is not acceptable. If you decide there is no pass, if there is no run, you throw the ball away. Streveler has not learned how to implement that part of the game. His self confidence in running hurts his game.
This unfortunate win will give the Streveler apologists the "He's won 75% of the games" argument against starting Wilson, or elevating Wilson to #2 behind Collaros.
On any other teams, if the D and ST hadn't won this game, I am not sure Streveler survives on the roster after his performance this game, on top of his performance the rest of the year. If MOS didn't have his memories of 2019, we would have moved on from him by now. We have moved on from a lot better QB's, who are now playing and even starting for other teams.
If the team had not given him the "run support", and had relied on him alone to win games, we would be 0-4 in games he starts, and he'd have an apple and a roadmap.
I love the man, and his heart and drive. And if he were to shift out to TE, SB, FB or RB, I'd be his biggest fan.
But I dread every time he comes onto the field as QB.
If Wilson is not the answer/option, then he shouldn't be on the roster after almost 2 years. If Chase has the skill to make the roster, I hope he has the skill to make the next step if Wilson can't.
As long as we have Collaros at QB, we NEED a solid #2. And I don't mean metamucil. Chris Streveler, with all his great attributes and heart, is *NOT* that.
Quote from: theaardvark on September 21, 2025, 02:48:24 PMThat was literally the most disappointing win I have experienced as a fan.
I want to full stop this.
This was not disappointing at all. We retained our third place in the West over BC. It was incredible.
We know ****** ain't it. If Zach is out, the season is toast, didn't matter when it happened or where we were in the standings when it happened. Our only chance is Zach coming back and being able to string three straight wins together at the right time.
The Ward missed FG and Vaval's return for a TD was the turning point in the game. 10 point swing and I don't know if we'd have overcome a 10 - 0 disadvantage early in the 2nd Q. Not the way our offence was playing IMO.
I wonder if our game plan is run, run, run why don't we see Peterson on occasion?
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 21, 2025, 03:26:54 PMThe Ward missed FG and Vaval's return for a TD was the turning point in the game. 10 point swing and I don't know if we'd have overcome a 10 - 0 disadvantage early in the 2nd Q. Not the way our offence was playing IMO.
Pregame said the biggest previous deficit Strev has over come to win was 3 points.
Quote from: Jesse on September 21, 2025, 02:59:34 PMI want to full stop this.
This was not disappointing at all. We retained our third place in the West over BC. It was incredible.
We know ****** ain't it. If Zach is out, the season is toast, didn't matter when it happened or where we were in the standings when it happened. Our only chance is Zach coming back and being able to string three straight wins together at the right time.
The win itself isnt disappointing, we've retain position in standings and pulled further ahead of Edmonton (who could have been poteentially tied with us) and widened the gap with Toronto/Ottawa for the crossover
But the hope for the future and playoffs is very low after that game. And personally it continues to undermine my faith in the organizations decision making, but maybe that's just me,
If strevs playing against hamilton we'll be lucky to lose by less than double digits
But who knows maybe Vaval will rack up another 250 yards in returns, and Allen will intercept two passes while we punch out a ball on a punt return. (we are great normally at turnovers right? Oh wait..we are in the bottom two in the league.) And JT will become a Sack machine.
So there still hope.
We beat the worst team in the league by getting a missed FG return for a TD, a knock-out on the returner for 3. If they could just have hit 40 yard FG's, they would have won.
Yaaa! We're the 2nd worst team in the league.
Quote from: Jesse on September 21, 2025, 02:59:34 PMI want to full stop this.
This was not disappointing at all. We retained our third place in the West over BC. It was incredible.
We know ****** ain't it. If Zach is out, the season is toast, didn't matter when it happened or where we were in the standings when it happened. Our only chance is Zach coming back and being able to string three straight wins together at the right time.
I can be disappointed AND happy we won.
Winning is always preferred. But at this point in the season, with the standings as they are, you want to win in a positive light, moving forward in a positive way.
Our D and ST ARE playing very, very well.
But D doesn't sell seats. There is a reason the CFL changed the KO spot, and narrowed the hashmarks, etc. We are an offence first league, a passing league. And this teams is the antithesis to this when CS17 is behind C.
We need to figure out what gets done when Collaros is not starting. CS17 has proven that he is not the answer as a starter. Spot duty, surprise packages, SY plus a tempo play after, 2 QB sets, for sure, he's an asset.
He should at best be #3 on the DC, where he can do all of those things. But we need Wilson, or Chase if Wilson is not the guy, at #2, coming in for Collaros or starting if he can't go.
This is not 2019, CS17 is not the CS17 of 2019, and living in 2019, we will miss the playoffs. Rememeber, it was only Collaros coming in in 2019 that took up to the cup in 2019, CS17 WAS on the roster then, but did not lead us to the cup. Collaros jumped his spot.
Quote from: Waffler on September 21, 2025, 03:36:40 PMI wonder if our game plan is run, run, run why don't we see Peterson on occasion?
Because Brady is the best in the land and slowly creeping up the best ever Canadian list
Quote from: The Zipp on September 21, 2025, 01:45:11 PMi have watched football for decades and for a starting QB (albeit backup) that was the WORST i have seen. backups as in game replacements havelikely done worse.
imagine how ottawa fans must feel - hahahaha get beat like that when your qb throws for over 400??
This game reminded me of the last game of the 2017 season vs. the Stamps, played in miserable blizzard like conditions in Calgary. Dan LeFevour played the entire game in place of Nichols and did nothing but run, hand the ball to Harris and Flanders and dump short passes off to Harris all game long. End result Wpg. 23 Stamps 5. I think that was Dan's very last game in the CFL as he retired shortly afterwards.
Here's hoping for an early Nov. playoff game in Calgary in miserable blizzard like conditions. Zach can sit that one out, Mark down Strev as the starter, VAJ will crumble from frustration and despair.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 21, 2025, 05:34:37 PMThis game reminded me of the last game of the 2017 season vs. the Stamps, played in miserable blizzard like conditions in Calgary. Dan LeFevour played the entire game in place of Nichols and did nothing but run, hand the ball to Harris and Flanders and dump short passes off to Harris all game long. End result Wpg. 23 Stamps 5. I think that was Dan's very last game in the CFL as he retired shortly afterwards.
Here's hoping for an early Nov. playoff game in Calgary in miserable blizzard like conditions. Zach can sit that one out, Mark down Strev as the starter, VAJ will crumble from frustration and despair.
Actually, if you look at his stat line for that game...
DATE WEEK OPP COMP ATT YDS TD INT AVG
11-04 20 CGY 13 17 91 0 0 5.4
Vs. yeasterday:
DATE WEEK OPP COMP ATT YDS TD INT AVG
09-20 16 OTT 3 8 54 0 1 6.8
Lefevour had more than twice the attempts and 10 more completions. And no INTs. And 5 for 27 rushing only. SCS17 11 for 72.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 21, 2025, 05:34:37 PMThis game reminded me of the last game of the 2017 season vs. the Stamps, played in miserable blizzard like conditions in Calgary. Dan LeFevour played the entire game in place of Nichols and did nothing but run, hand the ball to Harris and Flanders and dump short passes off to Harris all game long. End result Wpg. 23 Stamps 5. I think that was Dan's very last game in the CFL as he retired shortly afterwards.
Here's hoping for an early Nov. playoff game in Calgary in miserable blizzard like conditions. Zach can sit that one out, Mark down Strev as the starter, VAJ will crumble from frustration and despair.
Ah November here in Calgary - Can be 20C or -20C all in the same day. It could snow at the stadium location and be sunny where I live here on the ridge in Cranston.
If you looked at the game stats without knowing the final score, it would be easy to think we lost. 11 yards passing in the 1st half. 3 1st downs IIRC, maybe a couple more. Lost TOP by 8 minutes and lost the LOS on both sides of the ball.
Obviously a couple of good plays or a couple of bad plays can be a great equalizer. Wade's missed FG for example and a 10 point swing.
Games are not won on sheer stats alone. But that was ugly and we made a few plays better than the Redblacks. I feel somewhat sorry for them but that's the way the cookie crumbles. Not likely they can make the playoffs now.
Quote from: theaardvark on September 21, 2025, 06:02:20 PMActually, if you look at his stat line for that game...
DATE WEEK OPP COMP ATT YDS TD INT AVG
11-04 20 CGY 13 17 91 0 0 5.4
Vs. yeasterday:
DATE WEEK OPP COMP ATT YDS TD INT AVG
09-20 16 OTT 3 8 54 0 1 6.8
Lefevour had more than twice the attempts and 10 more completions. And no INTs. And 5 for 27 rushing only. SCS17 11 for 72.
Ya, but in 2017 with Lapo teams weren't having their D's cheat up on every short route because our OC refused to ever make them pay or think of counter schemes.
Even Zach can't get many short completions for us this season. How many INTs has he thrown?
The main problem isn't QB...
P.S. Feve is my all time fave SY guy, and true 99%er regardless of what Junkie says... (I still have all the games, don't make me prove it!!)
Quote from: Waffler on September 21, 2025, 03:38:12 PMPregame said the biggest previous deficit Strev has over come to win was 3 points.
Then everyone needs to give Strev credit for tripling his best comeback record yesterday!
I wasn't watching the live betting lines, but I wonder if WPG was paying 30-1 when OTT went up by 10?? I'm a little miffed I missed that.
Quote from: Jesse on September 21, 2025, 02:59:34 PMThis was not disappointing at all. We retained our third place in the West over BC. It was incredible.
Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I too wasn't disappointed. In fact, I was pretty darn happy the rest of the day/night (ask my wife). Always feels good after a WPG win. I don't care how they get it. A giant meteor could land on the opponent bench and we win by forfeit and I'd still be ecstatic (especially if that bench was green...).
Strev scramble running up the gut after 1.5s in the pocket 100 times was very cringe. But who cares about cringe. There's no "cringe" column in the standings.
Quote from: theaardvark on September 21, 2025, 02:48:24 PMRewatching it, OTT was not smothering the Rec's in any way, the deep pass to Corcoran was so wide open *I* could have hit him, and he sat there WAVING at Streveler to throw him the ball.
But they
were smothering the O in the 1st 3 Q's. They were getting ready to cheat up on every single short route, and short routes were basically all we were running, just like every other D has done to us for about 6 games now.
The only reason Corcoran was wide open was that was basically the only play where Strev had more than 2.7s in the pocket. See what happens when the OL actually protects and the QB stays pat? Well look at that, suddenly we look like every other team in the league that has all day in the pocket are making wide open pitch & catches look easy. Even with "just Strev".
Why don't we see that all the time? Because the OL is bottom-3 in league and our scheme is generally crap. The Corcoran thing was basically him ad-libbing after the main scheme broke down.
Quote from: Waffler on September 21, 2025, 02:38:33 PMThe most entertaining part of the game was when Strev ran my gf would hunch over like a buffalo, move her upper body side to side and stomp her feet. Spot on. You wonder how much faster he would be with any kind of correct form.
gf imitation, LOL awesome
Strev has always run like that. Knees bent out. Even in '19. Hey, it works for him and it's entertaining! He runs weird, chucks weird, it's all weird. Don't care! Keep winning!
Quote from: The Zipp on September 21, 2025, 01:45:11 PMimagine how ottawa fans must feel - hahahaha get beat like that when your qb throws for over 400??
Moving the ball really well from your own 10-40YL to the opponent's 50 doesn't buy you anything in the CFL. That's the whole "bend don't break" thing.
We were better at moving the ball when and where it counted, and got a free TD and a couple of good starting field positions.
Goes to show how "yards" stats can be deceiving or outright useless (like BLM in '24).
Seems like Vaval's missed FG return TD was the highlight of the game.
Glad I missed this one.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 22, 2025, 01:54:37 PMGlad I missed this one.
I don't know, the Strev 40Y romp was fun, as was the handiwork of Allen. And the last 3 mins was also fun as OTT has the QB & REC horsepower to come back from 2 scores. Seeing our big boys grind it on the ground was very fulfilling, and important practice for what we'll have to do to seal games going forward, probably.
It was Lapo! 1Q8:50 Lapo says Demski will pass Denmark on WPG completions on his next catch and "congratulations to Nic on that". He counted the chicken before it hatched and gave Demski the commentator's curse!
:o :o :o
Yeah, yeah some don't like posts from the other site but this was interesting. In particular rushing for 349 yards in 1974.
Winning With 3 Completions: The Blue Bombers won last week despite having just 3 completed passes on 8 attempts for 54 yards and a 9.4 Rating. The last club to win a game with 3 or fewer completed passes came on September 24, 1975. That day Winnipeg was again involved when they were just 2-of-11 for 62 yards and yet defeated Hamilton 34-32. With Chuck Ealey at QB, Winnipeg rushed 54 times for 349 yards that day. Of Note: Hamilton went 3-for-12 in a 1974 game and won 11-10 over Ottawa.
8 Pass Attempts: Last week Winnipeg attempted just 8 passes for 54 yards and a 9.4 Rating. The last time that ANY CFL club tried as few as 8 pass attempts was by Winnipeg themselves on August 26, 1975 vs Calgary. That day behind QB Chuck Ealey they tried 8 passes completing 4 for 99 yards in a 25-22 win. That day they ran the ball 39 times for 237 yards.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 26, 2025, 03:21:22 PMYeah, yeah some don't like posts from the other site but this was interesting. In particular rushing for 349 yards in 1974.
Winning With 3 Completions: The Blue Bombers won last week despite having just 3 completed passes on 8 attempts for 54 yards and a 9.4 Rating. The last club to win a game with 3 or fewer completed passes came on September 24, 1975. That day Winnipeg was again involved when they were just 2-of-11 for 62 yards and yet defeated Hamilton 34-32. With Chuck Ealey at QB, Winnipeg rushed 54 times for 349 yards that day. Of Note: Hamilton went 3-for-12 in a 1974 game and won 11-10 over Ottawa.
8 Pass Attempts: Last week Winnipeg attempted just 8 passes for 54 yards and a 9.4 Rating. The last time that ANY CFL club tried as few as 8 pass attempts was by Winnipeg themselves on August 26, 1975 vs Calgary. That day behind QB Chuck Ealey they tried 8 passes completing 4 for 99 yards in a 25-22 win. That day they ran the ball 39 times for 237 yards.
Hopefully that's the last game Strev starts this season, if Zach goes down again, they're in serious danger of missing the playoffs.