He must suffer from short term memory loss. Especially after his comments on third down nation. He must of forgot about his DUI he had and how we supported him. Then he also had injuries in his time in Winnipeg. Then he bolts to Edmonton cause he was chasing the $ and then returns cause he found out it wasn't any greener on the other side. I think he should think about his past before he speaks.
For those that don't want to Google the comment:
"Y'all signed Dillon Mitchell before me," Lawler told the newspaper. "Who wouldn't (feel disrespected)?"
"I didn't know that I was going to be leaving Winnipeg," Lawler said. "I always thought there would be light at the end of the tunnel at the end of free agency that we'd get something done but nothing got done and nothing ever got figured out."
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Does anyone really disagree with him? Maybe Dillon Mitchell lol. Too bad that realistically Mitchell won't be able to do anything about it because it's Streveler shotputting passes around Hamilton Stadium tonight.
He choose to accept contract offers from the TiCats in the tampering window. What did he expect the Bombers to do when he choose to test his opportunities?
Sour grapes on his part.
Does he forget his Edmonton foray, and his comments on his return "Home"?
Fool me once, shame on you... fool me twice....
No issues with the Bombers actions in the Lawler case.
Mo money mo problems
Probably just his way to fire himself up but I think he should be a bit more grateful for his time here. It's not like we under paid him. We gave him his shot. Lots of players have left for the money without any bitterness.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 12, 2025, 03:07:44 PMHe choose to accept contract offers from the TiCats in the tampering window. What did he expect the Bombers to do when he choose to test his opportunities?
Sour grapes on his part.
OK, this is what I thought happened, too.
Didn't Lawler leave again when he got a big offer and we were left to figure out what to do without him in the picture? Or was this another case of "the Bombers didn't even call me"?
Quote from: blue_or_die on September 12, 2025, 03:49:17 PMOK, this is what I thought happened, too.
Didn't Lawler leave again when he got a big offer and we were left to figure out what to do without him in the picture? Or was this another case of "the Bombers didn't even call me"?
He could have spoken with Walters to see what their plan was on his own. Many players tested free agency during the tampering window. That's what it's for and I don't think many of those player went back to their original team?
No sure what he's complaining about. Isn't he the highest paid receiver in the league?
Does Kenny Lawler have CTE?
Quote from: blue_or_die on September 12, 2025, 03:49:17 PMOK, this is what I thought happened, too.
Didn't Lawler leave again when he got a big offer and we were left to figure out what to do without him in the picture? Or was this another case of "the Bombers didn't even call me"?
Wouldn't have mattered, Goveia knew what he was going to offer Kenny and he knew Walters had no intention of matching it. By giving up on Lawler it allowed Walters cash flow to participate in FA after sitting out the last few years, instead of gambling it all on a single player he spread the risk over multiple players, some have worked out some have not and some are to be determined.
There's more to Lawler's complaint, from the Free Press article.
Now a member of the Hamilton Tiger-Cats, Lawler said he didn't receive a contract offer from the Bombers until a day before free agency opened at the start of February. His agent only had two brief conversations with Winnipeg, where the club was more focused on gauging the market value for a receiver of his calibre.
For Lawler, there was a more personal issue that needed to be addressed.
The two-time division all-star from Pomona, Calif. — who moved his family up to Winnipeg — had been doing some work on the side helping the city's grassroots football scene before running into a roadblock.
"It's not that (the Bombers) didn't want me to do it — they wanted me to do it under them. They closed my work permit," Lawler explained.
"I have my own business where I go and run camps and I was starting to do that and was getting momentum and when I had to get my work permit closed it was like, 'hmm, why is this happening?' You know what I want to do, I live here in Winnipeg, the full year, and if I am going to be taking a pay cut, which I was doing when I was in Winnipeg the whole time, I'm going to need something else to be able to supplement that. It's not that I need it, it's that I want to be able to start it so when I'm done with football I can still live where I'm at and transition right into something else and someone wasn't seeing that."
When asked who, specifically, wasn't on board, Lawler responded with: "I think that's a question you might have to ask them. And it probably wouldn't be to anyone that you could probably get an (interview from)."
Kenny who? Oh yah the guy we never won shyte with, right.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on September 12, 2025, 06:24:51 PMKenny who? Oh yah the guy we never won shyte with, right.
2019 and 2021???
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 12, 2025, 07:08:43 PM2019 and 2021???
A classic forum moment, well played, well played
Kenny was money when he was here
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 12, 2025, 04:28:21 PMWouldn't have mattered, Goveia knew what he was going to offer Kenny and he knew Walters had no intention of matching it. By giving up on Lawler it allowed Walters cash flow to participate in FA after sitting out the last few years, instead of gambling it all on a single player he spread the risk over multiple players, some have worked out some have not and some are to be determined.
I would have characterized Walters free agency as a giant fail. Who has worked out? Maybe Vaughters, who has a grand total of 3 sacks in 12 games but that's debatable. He's making about 100,000 over the minimum. Mitchell is a bust, as is Logan, and both are making way over the minimum (Mitchel 85,000, Logan about 50,000 over I think). J Jones is by all accounts a good player, but we really have little need for yet another Import LB, and he's making 50,000 over the minimum, and has almost never made it onto the roster. Together, they make about 285,000 over the minimum. Package them all together in a trade for Lawler? I'd do that in a heartbeat, but Ticats would have no interest. 20/20 hindsight? Yes. But Walters gets paid well to make the correct decisions, and he didn't.
Quote from: bunker on September 12, 2025, 07:31:53 PMI would have characterized Walters free agency as a giant fail. Who has worked out? Maybe Vaughters, who has a grand total of 3 sacks in 12 games but that's debatable. He's making about 100,000 over the minimum. Mitchell is a bust, as is Logan, and both are making way over the minimum (Mitchel 85,000, Logan about 50,000 over I think). J Jones is by all accounts a good player, but we really have little need for yet another Import LB, and he's making 50,000 over the minimum, and has almost never made it onto the roster. Together, they make about 285,000 over the minimum. Package them all together in a trade for Lawler? I'd do that in a heartbeat, but Ticats would have no interest. 20/20 hindsight? Yes. But Walters gets paid well to make the correct decisions, and he didn't.
I give KW the benefit of the doubt due to so much success, but this year has been weird with our FAs and it's impossible to make the argument we've been successful here. Maybe Mitchell goes on a tear for 200 yards tonight and becomes Strev's fav target the rest of the year, but we've been given no reason to think that will happen after two thirds of the season.
Quote from: bunker on September 12, 2025, 07:31:53 PMI would have characterized Walters free agency as a giant fail. Who has worked out? Maybe Vaughters, who has a grand total of 3 sacks in 12 games but that's debatable. He's making about 100,000 over the minimum. Mitchell is a bust, as is Logan, and both are making way over the minimum (Mitchel 85,000, Logan about 50,000 over I think). J Jones is by all accounts a good player, but we really have little need for yet another Import LB, and he's making 50,000 over the minimum, and has almost never made it onto the roster. Together, they make about 285,000 over the minimum. Package them all together in a trade for Lawler? I'd do that in a heartbeat, but Ticats would have no interest. 20/20 hindsight? Yes. But Walters gets paid well to make the correct decisions, and he didn't.
Depends how you categorize them, if they're still on the roster, I would consider them as TBD.
SuccessVaughters
Stearns
Failed through no fault of their own, just got cut.
Reggie White
Josh Haggerty
Shea Patterson
Brock Gowanlock
TBD as in there's still a chance they'll meet expectations.
Gavin Cobb
Dillon Mitchell
Peyton Logan
Jon Jones
Enock Makonzo
Quote from: dd on September 12, 2025, 09:10:07 PMChill Goldie that's all he does, annoy others, and sadly we have to put up with it. Just ignore it
thanks dd you're correct.
Kenny is just the worst.
This team has never done anything but support his through his personal garbage and now he's playing the blame game for some reason?
Glad he walked. He's never been worth it.
Yeah i mean Lawler isn't the first player to leave and have something to say about management on the way out. Think Walters could be the issue with the team right now. I was never the biggest Lawler fan, but messing with his youth football camp gig is greasy, and the fact we only reached out twice and chose Dalton Schoen (who hasn't finished a season healthy since his rookie year and was coming off a torn ACL), Mitchell (lol) and some bargain bin guys who probably had no other offers instead of paying up for an alpha #1 receiver was a mistake in hindsight. Must've not trusted the prospects they brought in either
Keep in mind Ted would have still been chummy with Mafia. He could have easily let slip to KW that we'd never be able to match their offer in a million years. Why would KW waste much effort on it after that?
It's like going all-in on the blind in poker. If you don't have the ponies, you just fold.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 12, 2025, 02:27:54 PMDoes anyone really disagree with him? Maybe Dillon Mitchell lol. Too bad that realistically Mitchell won't be able to do anything about it because it's Streveler shotputting passes around Hamilton Stadium tonight.
Yet strangely enough Mitchell's stats were roughly in the same ballpark as Kenny's tonight! Nice whiffs and big hits you took there, Kenny.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 12, 2025, 04:07:45 PMDoes Kenny Lawler have CTE?
Doubt it. But he's never been the sharpest knife. He's on the lower end of the bell curve but he has attitude to try to cover for it. I'm not surprised by any of his behavior, whether in HAM or here.
He's a super talented receiver, and Mafia made the wrong call as to who to keep as their star REC. It was a reasonable gamble, but we lost.
I don't even mind him talking smack. He
is trying to endear himself to HAM (team mates and city). However, he never talked horribly about us when in EDM: he was always very careful to deflect such questions, knowing he could be back. Now? It'll be tough to imagine him in blue & gold ever again, which is a bit of a shame.
He wasn't the bombers best receiver. Darvin Adams was better. Lawler made too much money and was hurt 6 games or so in one year. Then suspended for a few games in the other year. He dropped alot of passes . He did better with Edmonton.
Quote from: buckzumhoff on September 13, 2025, 11:57:28 AMHe wasn't the bombers best receiver. Darvin Adams was better. Lawler made too much money and was hurt 6 games or so in one year. Then suspended for a few games in the other year. He dropped alot of passes . He did better with Edmonton.
Meh. I sorta agree, but then he'd have games like '24 WDF. Yes, he was never the Burnham-type most-passes-go-to-him guy like some teams have (because they only have 1-2 good RECs). But he was superb at opening everything up for the other 4 reads.
Yes, he'd miss so many games. Yes, he's probably always been overpriced (certainly now). But you can't deny what he's bringing to HAM, as a great match with BLM.
I think losing Darvin was a big part of us not winning the cup that same season.
I can see why Walters went with dalton and not Kenny, both are good receivers era, but one is a player of character and a team players, and one is a very selfish me first player with some off field issues. It sucks dalton got injured but who's to say Kenny didn't pull another dui or something stupid. Regardless, I'd go after NAT Tyson Philpot in free agency and we ll forget all about Kenny watch me drop a few more passes Lawler!!
Quote from: dd on September 14, 2025, 02:33:42 AMI can see why Walters went with dalton and not Kenny, both are good receivers era, but one is a player of character and a team players, and one is a very selfish me first player with some off field issues. It sucks dalton got injured but who's to say Kenny didn't pull another dui or something stupid. Regardless, I'd go after NAT Tyson Philpot in free agency and we ll forget all about Kenny watch me drop a few more passes Lawler!!
Ya, and Schoen is 10X smarter than Kenny, which is why he was always so good at scramble drill. We gambled on that knee no longer being a problem. The outcome sucks.
As for Philpot (both are probably equally good as CGY Philpot is catching up fast and MTL Philpot may be getting a rep for injury). However, no way we can afford "2 Demskis", there aren't even enough of them for each team to have 1. And there should be no reason to: we do 2 NAT REC and 1 NAT RB, that's enough. Philpot-level IMPs are more plentiful and should come at $100k less (once Philpots are off ELC).