https://packerswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2025/08/26/packers-releasing-rookie-qb-taylor-elgersma-practice-squad-next/85830916007/
Elgersma will now go through the waiver process. If unclaimed, Elgersma can sign with the Packers practice squad starting on Wednesday.
Boy, it really would be nice and perfect timing if he should come up here to dev with us for some of '25 and all of '26 and see if we can make a starter out of him in '27 when Zach retires!
Assuming he can be at least Dru (or Rourke?) quality... having a starting NAT QB would really be ratio-handy!
its almost a lock that GB puts him.on pr
Quote from: Pete on August 27, 2025, 04:06:20 AMits almost a lock that GB puts him.on pr
That must mean "released" means a different thing down there than up here! We don't "release" a guy to the PR!
CFL release = cut = out the door = apple & map = bye
NFL release = roster shuffle?
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 27, 2025, 04:13:39 AMThat must mean "released" means a different thing down there than up here! We don't "release" a guy to the PR!
CFL release = cut = out the door = apple & map = bye
NFL release = roster shuffle?
We do release guys onto the PR. They need to be cut from their contract and signed to a separate PR deal.
What I think is different in the NFL is after they are released they run through waivers, so each team is given the opportunity to sign each released player before they are free to sign onto a PR.
He's had a pretty good pre season, I'm sure he's sticking around.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 27, 2025, 04:13:39 AMThat must mean "released" means a different thing down there than up here! We don't "release" a guy to the PR!
CFL release = cut = out the door = apple & map = bye
NFL release = roster shuffle?
They have waivers. Any team NFL team can claim him in the waiver period (24 hours) and he becomes their property, if no one does then Green Bay can put him on their PR.
Elgersma will stay south of the border for this season for sure, and maybe for a Streveler length of time.
The fact that Collaros is signed at a high price for next year reduces his likelyhood of coming north. Unless Collaros calls it a career, I can't see him wanting to come here on an ELC to back up.
Rourke has set the bar for this situation.
Quote from: theaardvark on August 27, 2025, 02:24:03 PMElgersma will stay south of the border for this season for sure, and maybe for a Streveler length of time.
The fact that Collaros is signed at a high price for next year reduces his likelyhood of coming north. Unless Collaros calls it a career, I can't see him wanting to come here on an ELC to back up.
Rourke has set the bar for this situation.
Rourke was already the starter in Vancouver so it's not the same situation.
A reminder that most quarterbacks who come to the CFL fail.
Odds are Elgersma doesn't even turn into Streveler.
sounds like GB will be adding him to the PR if he clears waivers.
Quote from: Waffler on August 27, 2025, 01:05:41 PMThey have waivers. Any team NFL team can claim him in the waiver period (24 hours) and he becomes their property, if no one does then Green Bay can put him on their PR.
Wasn't that long ago the CFL also had waivers and every team had the option of picking up any player deleted from the roster being moved to the PR. I believe the waiver period was 24 hours as well, being the CFL the GM's had an un-written agreement not to mess with other team's players, but it still happened occasionally.
Quote from: theaardvark on August 27, 2025, 02:24:03 PMElgersma will stay south of the border for this season for sure, and maybe for a Streveler length of time.
The fact that Collaros is signed at a high price for next year reduces his likelyhood of coming north. Unless Collaros calls it a career, I can't see him wanting to come here on an ELC to back up.
Rourke has set the bar for this situation.
If he gets cut from the PR and no other NFL team picks him up from year one onward, like Rourke the CFL becomes his best choice for playing pro football and any demands for a big pay contract or a starting job would fall on deaf ears. I'm sure his agent would inform him of all this before any of it happened though, so not an issue.
Doesn't look like he will get a PR spot, per Farhan and a few NFL sources. GB passed on both him and clifford.
Naylor stated he doesn't think he'll sign with the bombers immediately.
My guess is he'll sign in the off season with us then battle it out with Wilson and Chase Artopoeus.
Goes to show how much weight you can put on training camp reports. Im not sure the bombers want Elgersma to sign this year , we still hold his rights and if we cant risk putting him on pr then which qb do you sit of streveler and wilson?
Other option would be to put him on one games i guess.
Add him and cut Wilson is my vote.
Quote from: Pete on August 27, 2025, 05:21:45 PMGoes to show how much wait you can put on training camp reports. Im not sure the bombers want Elgersma to sign this year , we still hold his rights and if we cant risk putting him on pr then which qb do you sit of streveler and wilson?
Other option would be to put him on one games i guess.
It's better if he doesn't sign until 2026. In that way we get the full value of a 3 year deal. Yes he could in theory leave after the 1st year but that seems less likely. In theory he would probably not see much game action in his 1st year.
Quote from: peg_city on August 27, 2025, 04:43:26 PMDoesn't look like he will get a PR spot, per Farhan and a few NFL sources. GB passed on both him and clifford.
Naylor stated he doesn't think he'll sign with the bombers immediately.
My guess is he'll sign in the off season with us then battle it out with Wilson and Chase Artopoeus.
Training camp reports were pretty unanimous that he was a very raw prospect. Fans get excited about preseason numbers but it seems he was never anything more than a camp arm.
Quote from: Jesse on August 27, 2025, 06:14:52 PMTraining camp reports were pretty unanimous that he was a very raw prospect. Fans get excited about preseason numbers but it seems he was never anything more than a camp arm.
I don't watch a lot of NFL football, but I've come to the conclusion (after watching pre-season football as well as a bit of NFL from last season) that there are a handful of CFL QBs who are good enough to make an NFL roster.
I'm not saying starting, but better than a number of back-ups. And better than the vast majority of QBs on the PR.
Quote from: peg_city on August 27, 2025, 06:24:34 PMI don't watch a lot of NFL football, but I've come to the conclusion (after watching pre-season football as well as a bit of NFL from last season) that there are a handful of CFL QBs who are good enough to make an NFL roster.
I'm not saying starting, but better than a number of back-ups. And better than the vast majority of QBs on the PR.
Elgersma specifically was coming out of USports. He just hasn't had the same training for as long as most American QBs.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 27, 2025, 05:47:17 PMIt's better if he doesn't sign until 2026. In that way we get the full value of a 3 year deal. Yes he could in theory leave after the 1st year but that seems less likely. In theory he would probably not see much game action in his 1st year.
The alternative is to steal a page from the NHL. Sign him now to burn a year on his entry level contract. That puts him 1 year closer to a payout, assuming he is the real deal.
Quote from: peg_city on August 27, 2025, 03:35:49 PMA reminder that most quarterbacks who come to the CFL fail.
Odds are Elgersma doesn't even turn into Streveler.
Difference is Elgersma has all the tools. Size, accuracy, arm strength and played Canadian football.
A player that was drafted by an NFL team, probably has a leg up on an undrafted player competing for a spot.
So if they are at all close, the drafted guy will get the spot.
Draft picks are valuable assets, it's a sub industry in the NFL.
if you appear to be wasting those you look bad to the owner. And one step closer to losing your high paying job.
Quote from: markf on August 27, 2025, 07:29:48 PMA player that was drafted by an NFL team, probably has a leg up on an undrafted player competing for a spot.
So if they are at all close, the drafted guy will get the spot.
Draft picks are valuable assets, it's a sub industry in the NFL.
if you appear to be wasting those you look bad to the owner. And one step closer to losing your high paying job.
It's one of the wonderful things about the CFL. No draft for US players, and teams don't care what college you went to, so you get your chance and if you show something, then you get the job.
Quote from: CrazyCanuck89 on August 27, 2025, 06:48:35 PMDifference is Elgersma has all the tools. Size, accuracy, arm strength and played Canadian football.
I agree. He also moves very well. I believe he will be as good as Rourke.
Quote from: peg_city on August 27, 2025, 07:37:59 PMIt's one of the wonderful things about the CFL. No draft for US players, and teams don't care what college you went to, so you get your chance and if you show something, then you get the job.
Absolutely.
Quote from: Stats Junkie on August 27, 2025, 06:42:06 PMThe alternative is to steal a page from the NHL. Sign him now to burn a year on his entry level contract. That puts him 1 year closer to a payout, assuming he is the real deal.
That's better for him but not necessarily for the team. He could sign with Winnipeg today and still leave before the start of 2026.
Quote from: Stats Junkie on August 27, 2025, 06:42:06 PMThe alternative is to steal a page from the NHL. Sign him now to burn a year on his entry level contract. That puts him 1 year closer to a payout, assuming he is the real deal.
If he wants to return do we have a choice not to sign him and still retain his rights?
Quote from: Stats Junkie on August 27, 2025, 06:42:06 PMThe alternative is to steal a page from the NHL. Sign him now to burn a year on his entry level contract. That puts him 1 year closer to a payout, assuming he is the real deal.
Why would a CFL GM bargain away an advantage he has in legal negotiation, unless the player first demanded it? I don't think the CFL has ever had a Lindros situation were a player refused to sign a contract with the team that drafted him.
Quote from: Stats Junkie on August 27, 2025, 06:42:06 PMThe alternative is to steal a page from the NHL. Sign him now to burn a year on his entry level contract. That puts him 1 year closer to a payout, assuming he is the real deal.
I'm not an expert but I think the calculations in the NHL are different. NHL teams control their draft picks for their entry level and RFA contracts, which is usually 7 years, so much longer than the 3 year control in the CFL. Also, its not only used as a strategy to rewards players in order to get them to sign, but also to allow their contract extensions to occur one year earlier, at a time when the player has produced less, and can be signed for a lower salary. I don't think the same considerations apply in the CFL. But its an interesting idea.
funny how things work .. 9 months ago Elgersma was likely hoping that hed be a high cfl pick, one taste of nfl training camp and its hang around just in case..similar to Wilson
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Perfect. Hope he's signed in the next few days.
Quote from: Blueforlife on Today at 01:02:57 AMCanadian QB Taylor Elgersma weighing NFL options before looking at CFL
Dumb. If there's not some immediate calls he should totally come up here to get film. N.Rourke did it. Strev did it. If you want the NFL to take you more seriously, blow up this league first, then they'll take longer looks at you.
However, I do agree that it might be better from a Bomber standpoint if he does waste some more time down there, at least until Dec. I'd rather have Wilson on SY and backup-to-backup than a straight-outta-school guy.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on Today at 01:22:01 AMPerfect. Hope he's signed in the next few days.
Ya... but the roster capacity situation! We'd almost be forced to AR him to "protect" him. That's not a great idea now that we're already at week 13.
true but we can likely afford to 1 game him each week like we did with jones
Quote from: TecnoGenius on Today at 01:23:06 AMYa... but the roster capacity situation! We'd almost be forced to AR him to "protect" him. That's not a great idea now that we're already at week 13.
Two options. Pay him a third string QB wage and put him in the PR or add him to the roster and put Wilson on the PR.
Fans make a big deal about PR poaching but it almost never happens and is zero risk because it's easily blocked.
Problem solved.
How likely is it that Elgersma will step onto the CFL field for the first time and light up the league, like Rourke? Is that a pipe dream? Is he going the need the usual 1-3 year dev (like, say, Dru)?
Quote from: TecnoGenius on Today at 02:07:47 AMHow likely is it that Elgersma will step onto the CFL field for the first time and light up the league, like Rourke? Is that a pipe dream? Is he going the need the usual 1-3 year dev (like, say, Dru)?
1.5 yrs
Quote from: TecnoGenius on Today at 01:22:08 AMDumb. If there's not some immediate calls he should totally come up here to get film. N.Rourke did it. Strev did it. If you want the NFL to take you more seriously, blow up this league first, then they'll take longer looks at you.
However, I do agree that it might be better from a Bomber standpoint if he does waste some more time down there, at least until Dec. I'd rather have Wilson on SY and backup-to-backup than a straight-outta-school guy.
Don't care who he is, unlikely to immediately surpass the 2 QB's that have been paying their dues all season long on a MOS team. "Wanta play football sonny? Get in line."
Quote from: TecnoGenius on Today at 02:07:47 AMHow likely is it that Elgersma will step onto the CFL field for the first time and light up the league, like Rourke? Is that a pipe dream? Is he going the need the usual 1-3 year dev (like, say, Dru)?
He's a loooong shot at best to make the cfl. I saw him play in the varied cup, and he didn't look that good at all in that game. I am actually shocked he got an nfl look at all.
Quote from: dd on Today at 03:15:21 AMHe's a loooong shot at best to make the cfl. I saw him play in the varied cup, and he didn't look that good at all in that game. I am actually shocked he got an nfl look at all.
But wasn't his reg season amazing? And didn't he win some high-falutin' Canadian football trophy?
At the very least he's worth a normal dev-path look? Kind of like Ford.