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Calgary Stampeders lose top receiver Dominique Rhymes, regain rookie Damien Alford for clash with Riders
By 3Down Staff -August 22, 2025
The Calgary Stampeders will have a very different look in the receiving corps when they face the Saskatchewan Roughriders on Saturday.
The team's top target, Dominique Rhymes, has been placed on the one-game injured list after missing practice this week with a quad injury. The 32-year-old has caught 30 passes for 543 yards and three touchdowns through nine games to lead the team. Also slated to miss this week due to illness is fellow American receiver Tevin Jones, who has 28 catches for 376 yards and two majors.
Fortunately, the team will get a major boost to the same unit with the return of first-overall CFL Draft pick Damien Alford following his recovery from a hamstring injury. The six-foot-six Canadian exploded on the scene in three starts before going down, catching 13 passes for 307 yards and five touchdowns.
American Daylen Baldwin will dress in the other vacant starting role, while Canadian Vyshonne Janusas returns to the lineup for depth. Backup running back Ludovick Choquette will return to the practice roster in a corresponding move.
Defensively, 2024 first-round draft pick Ben Labrosse returns to the defensive backfield and will back up Godfrey Onyeka at corner. American Shaun Peterson will dress for depth at defensive end, as Canadians George Idoko and Anthony Federico head back to the practice roster.
The team will also be making a change at punter, as first-round Global Draft pick Fraser Masin has been demoted in favour of second-rounder Mark Vassett.
The Calgary Stampeders (6-3) will host the Saskatchewan Roughriders (8-1) at McMahon Stadium on Saturday, August 23 with kickoff slated for 7:00 p.m. EDT. The Roughriders are coming off a 29-9 win over the Hamilton Tiger-Cats, while the Stampeders were on a bye.
The weather forecast in Calgary calls for a high of 23 degrees with clear conditions. The game will be broadcast on TSN in Canada and CFL+ internationally. Radio listeners can tune-in on 620 CKRM in Regina and 770 CHQR in Calgary.
https://3downnation.com/2025/08/22/calgary-stampeders-lose-top-receiver-dominique-rhymes-regain-rookie-damien-alford-for-clash-with-riders/
Saskatchewan Roughriders without top special teams tackler Nick Wiebe vs Calgary
By 3Down Staff -August 22, 2025
The Saskatchewan Roughriders are extremely healthy heading into their top of the West Division clash with the Calgary Stampeders on Saturday.
Backup Canadian linebacker Nick Wiebe is the only player added to the one-game injured list this week after he sat out the final two practice sessions with a knee injury. The second-year man has been a force in kick coverage this season, notching 10 special teams tackles in nine appearances to lead the team.
Fullback Morgen Runge returns to the lineup to fill that void. The product of Whitecourt, Alta. played the first four games of the season, notching one catch for four yards.
Five other players remain on the one-game injured list with Wiebe, though all of them practiced this week. Quarterback Jack Coan (hand), receiver Shawn Bane Jr. (knee), and defensive back Antoine Brooks (healthy scratch) were full participants, while returner Mario Alford (hip) and offensive lineman Daniel Johnson (shoulder) were limited.
The six-game injured list is more extensive but remains unchanged. Those still out long term include running backs Ka'Deem Carey and Thomas Bertrand-Hudon; receivers Samuel Emilus and Kian Schaffer-Baker; offensive linemen Sean McEwen, Philippe Gagnon, and Trevon Tate; defensive linemen Lake Korte-Moore and Charbel Dabire; and linebackers C.J. Avery and Aubrey Miller Jr.
The Saskatchewan Roughriders (8-1) will visit the Calgary Stampeders (6-3) at McMahon Stadium on Saturday, August 23 with kickoff slated for 7:00 p.m. EDT. The Roughriders are coming off a 29-9 win over the Hamilton Tiger-Cats, while the Stampeders were on a bye.
The weather forecast in Calgary calls for a high of 243 degrees with clear conditions. The game will be broadcast on TSN in Canada and CFL+ internationally. Radio listeners can tune-in on 620 CKRM in Regina and 770 CHQR in Calgary.
https://3downnation.com/2025/08/22/saskatchewan-roughriders-without-top-special-teams-tackler-nick-wiebe-vs-calgary/
Calgary is going back to Mark Vassett as their punter. I'd be curious to know if this was a request from Rene Paredes.
6 games with Fraser Masin as holder (14/20 FGs | 10/10 converts)
4 games with Mark Vassett as holder (3/3 FGs | 14/15 converts)
Quote from: gobombersgo on August 22, 2025, 05:20:50 PMBy 3Down Staff -August 22, 2025
The weather forecast in Calgary calls for a high of 243 degrees with clear conditions.
I don't care what temperature scale is used, 243 degrees is an extreme temperature.
Quote from: Stats Junkie on August 22, 2025, 08:48:58 PMI don't care what temperature scale is used, 243 degrees is an extreme temperature.
Believe it or not 243 degrees Kelvin is only -30 Celsius, tough sledding weather for sure but fine for a football game.
Riders defensive back Marcus Sayles has been downgraded to a game-time decision for tomorrow's game.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 22, 2025, 09:21:22 PMBelieve it or not 243 degrees Kelvin is only -30 Celsius, tough sledding weather for sure but fine for a football game.
I did the Kelvin conversion before I posted. I probably should have added 'for football' after 'extreme temperature'.
Quote from: Stats Junkie on August 22, 2025, 08:48:58 PMI don't care what temperature scale is used, 243 degrees is an extreme temperature.
It's great, put a nice cut of roast on the seat next to you before KO, and feast on some nice slow-cooked meat post-game. I'm partial to pork shoulder or brisket!
Do we want SSK or CGY to win? I think it comes down to whether we're resigned to SSK winning the West and abandoning our home WDF hopes. Not that the team would do that, but how do we feel about it?
If we are resigned, then we want SSK to win because them having 100 wins is the same as 14 from a home-WDF standpoint.
If we want a shot at home WDF (me me me!) then it's better if CGY wins because it makes the W a 3-way race and we're only 2 W behind SSK (and we could win the season series!).
So normally I'd be ABC, but in this case go VAJ!
And, as is normal on the Riderforum when it's a WPG vs anyone game: "I hope both teams beat each other up". In that sense, a super close slobberknocker is ideal.
I am holding onto my belief of a Calgary win, followed by a LBC/BB sweep, vaulting us into first place.
Calgary win and Bombers sweep Sask is what I'm hoping
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 23, 2025, 10:39:23 AMDo we want SSK or CGY to win? I think it comes down to whether we're resigned to SSK winning the West and abandoning our home WDF hopes. Not that the team would do that, but how do we feel about it?
If we are resigned, then we want SSK to win because them having 100 wins is the same as 14 from a home-WDF standpoint.
If we want a shot at home WDF (me me me!) then it's better if CGY wins because it makes the W a 3-way race and we're only 2 W behind SSK (and we could win the season series!).
So normally I'd be ABC, but in this case go VAJ!
And, as is normal on the Riderforum when it's a WPG vs anyone game: "I hope both teams beat each other up". In that sense, a super close slobberknocker is ideal.
Will be at the game (I live in Calgary and still maintained my season tickets). Only been to 2 games this year. This will be my 3rd. Good news is that the game day sales have been very good so should be a near full house for a change. I am leaning toward a Calgary win but have my doubts. I would like to see a Calgary win and then maybe we split the 2 coming up with the Riders. Hard to favor Calgary as the Riders are probably the team to beat in the West this year.
I'm definitely pulling for Calgary in this one. I just can't think of a circumstance where I'd ever pull for the Riders, ever.
Sayles not playing.
Updated depth chart:
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i would never hope for a small non painful two game injury to the QB of our biggest rival...that would just be a very, very low character thing to do.
Taylor Shire @Taylor_Shire
#Riders updated depth chart:
Marcus Sayles ruled out so Nelson Lokombo starts at corner.
Jaxon Ford starts at safety. Antoine Brooks Jr. comes onto roster as backup.
Rooting for the Stamps.
Two questionable calls favouring the Riders already. Geez!
What is up with Lauther?
Ha ha! Nice kick! LMFAO! All that help and all you could manage was 1 point. Awesome! ;D
Woooo hooooo!!! TD Calgary! Right. Down. Their. Throats.
Nice hold by the Stamps D. Now run it right down their throats again. :)
What is with the officials in this game? What is that, 4 penalties in a row against the Stamps?
Am I the only one wondering what is going on with the officials in this game? Six flags in a row. Wow!
Quote from: bunker on August 23, 2025, 11:15:53 PMWhat is up with Lauther?
his replacement being in the house has spooked him not motivated him.
that's how you disrupt Harris - hit him
Go Stamps!
That's a TD! Wooo! 14-2 Stamps. Still think the Stamps beating you once already was just a fluke?
incredible stretch to get in the end zone
Quote from: J5V on August 23, 2025, 11:40:24 PMAm I the only one wondering what is going on with the officials in this game? Six flags in a row. Wow!
Penalties are actually 5-1.
The Roughriders penalty was Illegal Interference - Cover on Couch's first punt. It was declined because the return yardage exceeded the penalty yardage.
Quote from: Stats Junkie on August 23, 2025, 11:58:18 PMPenalties are actually 5-1.
The Roughriders penalty was Illegal Interference - Cover on Couch's first punt. It was declined because the return yardage exceeded the penalty yardage.
Oh, well that's okay then. lol
Riders got lots of help on their TD drive. Massive holding uncalled that allowed Harris to scramble for a first down followed by more of the same that allowed him to throw a big strike downfield. Lots of stench on that TD drive. Hard to believe this game is actually in Calgary and not Regina. I'm guessing the penalty calls are about 7 - 2 in favour of the Riders. We'll see if that evens out by game's end.
Edit: Another flag against the Stamps. Got to be about 8-2 against now. I wonder what the penalty yardage stats are.
riders are calling a great offensive game - mix of run and pass
Quote from: J5V on August 24, 2025, 12:10:16 AMRiders got lots of help on their TD drive. Massive holding uncalled that allowed Harris to scramble for a first down followed by more of the same that allowed him to throw a big strike downfield. Lots of stench on that TD drive. Hard to believe this game is actually in Calgary and not Regina. I'm guessing the penalty calls are about 7 - 2 in favour of the Riders. We'll see if that evens out by game's end.
Edit: Another flag against the Stamps. Got to be about 8-2 against now. I wonder what the penalty yardage stats are.
77-10.
Halftime penalty details
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Quote from: Stats Junkie on August 24, 2025, 12:33:35 AMHalftime penalty details
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Do you track that yourself or do you have access to super secret league stats?
I have access to CFL Connect which requires login access.
If you've ever seen Bonfire After Dark, Darrin Bauming uses CFL Connect to display stats.
There is an option with CFL Connect to generate a Gamebook which produces a complete stats package, same as what CFL produces at the conclusion of each game.
ok thurman is right in front of an official doing at least what calgary player did on first roughing penalty early in the game...and it gets ignored..at least have some impartiality
Quote from: Pete on August 24, 2025, 12:54:33 AMok thurman is right in front of an official doing at least what calgary player did on first roughing penalty early in the game...and it gets ignored..at least have some impartiality
How does he get away with that? Sickening. This is turning into a very one-sided game from the officials.
Harris was ROCKED!
He looked concussed there to me.
if that was Collaros the protocol officials would have been on that right away
Harris doesnt look right Im surprised hes still in there
calgary beats up their opponents - good team.
I don't understand why this league favours the Riders almost as much as they do the Argos.
TSN cut away from Harris after his big hit but he was clearly not right and looked woozy and concussed. They hid him in the tent and then sent him out as if all was well. This is bordering on abuse and the league needs to be careful or they're going to get their ***** sued off.
And just like, in the incredibly unlikely event the bombers win the next two games, they will be ahead of the riders.
Quote from: Stats Junkie on August 24, 2025, 12:42:46 AMI have access to CFL Connect which requires login access.
If you've ever seen Bonfire After Dark, Darrin Bauming uses CFL Connect to display stats.
There is an option with CFL Connect to generate a Gamebook which produces a complete stats package, same as what CFL produces at the conclusion of each game.
Thanks...
I Wondered where he got that information so quickly.
Pretty massive whiff by yoshi and his linemate on the sack that Harris got hurt by.
51 looked at his buddy as though it was the other guys fault. Meanwhile yoshi was a pylon blocked nobody.
O line has to be the toughest thing in football.
there dline is very good
I think our boys have to like what we all just saw tonight.
Riders ripe for the picking! ;D
I knew it! And just like that we knew the Riders were lucky to be sitting in first place. We know that Calgary is the better team and even with all the help the Riders got from the officials they lost by 2 TDs yet again. I can't wait to see how the Rider forum tries to spin this loss and if the Bombers happen to beat the Riders too the Rider collapse will be full on and they'll be shown for the frauds they are. They are NOT, far and away, the leagues best team like they were trying to get us to believe. In fact, it is friggin sad that they were so desperate to win this game that they'd put the health of their star QB at risk again. We'd never do that with Zach.
I'd like to see the penalty stats breakdown of this game. For the Riders not to get flagged for the same offenses the Stamps were was just a disgusting display of officiating and really needs to be investigated by the league, IMO.
I wonder if someone will ask Mace what message his team sent the league this week.
Quote from: peg_city on August 24, 2025, 01:45:51 AMAnd just like, in the incredibly unlikely event the bombers win the next two games, they will be ahead of the riders.
The recipe to beat the Riders has been written on the side of a wall in large letters, it's up to the Bombers to execute the game plan.
Quote from: gobombersgo on August 24, 2025, 02:08:44 AMI wonder if someone will ask Mace what message his team sent the league this week.
Sask got all the help they could have ever hoped for in that first half and only lead by 1 point. They scored 0 points in the second half. The message the Riders sent the league this week is that when they face adversity they fold like a cheap suit and quit when the going gets tough. That's the real Riders. Awesome. lol
Lots of angst in the Rider forum too. Quite entertaining. Some in there predicting they'll be in third place when the Bombers finish beating them the next two games. I dunno about that but I understand the concern after watching them quit after the first half in this one.
Sending a clearly concussed Harris out for more of a beating in the second half is a bad look on the Riders. Isn't the league supposed to intervene with these things?
Quote from: J5V on August 24, 2025, 02:01:22 AMI knew it! And just like that we knew the Riders were lucky to be sitting in first place. ... They are NOT, far and away, the leagues best team like they were trying to get us to believe.
SSK is very good at what they do, but they aren't perfect. I think they may be the most balanced team though, but still skewed towards the D. Their balance on O, perfect run/pass short/mid/long mix, is their secret sauce. It covers up for their weak RECs. It allows a lot of uncontested catches to stationary RECs.
Their D, especially DL and run stop, is near league-best though. Mills was stinking out the joint in the 1st half, and that's going to happen to Brady too. Only when they get tired and you loosen them up will you get anywhere in the middle.
The problem with SSK is when you disrupt their mojo they get discombobulated. And if you start hitting Harris a lot, it's game over.
They are beatable, but you have to play perfect ball and have great schemes and new wrinkles. And SSK always plays twice as hard at home vs away, so the LDC is still a tough W.
Quote from: markf on August 24, 2025, 01:49:21 AMPretty massive whiff by yoshi and his linemate on the sack that Harris got hurt by.
51 looked at his buddy as though it was the other guys fault. Meanwhile yoshi was a pylon blocked nobody.
"You just got our QB killed! Are you crazy!"
Well, at least he cares. Most OL just shrug and go, "oh well".
Quote from: J5V on August 24, 2025, 01:16:55 AMHarris was ROCKED!
He looked concussed there to me.
The one quick shot of him trying to pass off the ball after the sack had him looking like an extra from the Walking Dead. Dude was messed up, arm/shoulder up like quasimodo, standing at a 45 degree angle looking like a DUI test subject, and eyes completely out to lunch. I could hear zombie moaning in my head. My son thought he looked gone.
And then he takes another shot later and ruins his ankle. They finally decided to keep him out.
Definite concussion. Normally it would be minor, but he is ancient. He's as prone as Zach now. And it was the same ol' fall back head snaps back hits the turf concussion like Zach always gets. I'm telling you someone needs to put pillows or high-tech crumple zones on the outside back of QB helmets! Why are we letting these guys get hosed like this? There's so little protection in the back and it's really stupid.
Spotters failed. Team will probably hush it up so they can play him in LDC. But that means one big sack and Trevor may be out for 3+ weeks. Not saying we want to concuss him, but if the team blitzes a whole ton early to get a
legal hit that has him on his
butt, it's Maier time.
Quote from: Pete on August 24, 2025, 12:54:33 AMok thurman is right in front of an official doing at least what calgary player did on first roughing penalty early in the game...and it gets ignored..at least have some impartiality
You'd think because it was right there on an iso 2-shot on camera the EITS would flag it. Very bizarre. Total swing and hit.
Probably a fine incoming, should CFL decide to "notice" it.
Quote from: J5V on August 24, 2025, 12:10:16 AMRiders got lots of help on their TD drive. Massive holding uncalled that allowed Harris to scramble for a first down followed by more of the same that allowed him to throw a big strike downfield.
My impression is league is trying to call less OL holding this season. (Maybe the same amount of REC holding though.) It has to be really bad, and the ref has to have a bee in their bonnet, before they call OL holding.
There is so much obvious and egregious holding going on, impacting the play near the carrier, and maybe 1-2 flags a game.
I'm not sure I'm against this... WPG holds too (Riderforum thinks we're the most-holdy ever!). But then when a ref wants to influence a game they can start calling it on just one team, and it sticks because there's always holding going on!
Quote from: J5V on August 24, 2025, 12:10:16 AMLots of stench on that TD drive. Hard to believe this game is actually in Calgary and not Regina. I'm guessing the penalty calls are about 7 - 2 in favour of the Riders. We'll see if that evens out by game's end.
Ya, refs in Regina are always swayed a bit by the crowd and/or whatever else drives them (cough cough homer cough).
Doesn't help that Dickenson used his "keep them somewhat honest" flag in the first 60s. MOS would never do that.
Quote from: bunker on August 23, 2025, 11:15:53 PMWhat is up with Lauther?
He sucks and is about to lose his job? 27Y miss? Manure truck incoming...
Quote from: The Zipp on August 23, 2025, 11:44:54 PMhis replacement being in the house has spooked him not motivated him.
Yup. Is he benched for LDC? I'd say > 50/50 chance now!
Quote from: J5V on August 23, 2025, 11:12:29 PMTwo questionable calls favouring the Riders already. Geez!
The DPI in the first min and the challenge upholding were bizarre. From everything shown I don't see any DPI. The only thing I can think of was there was something earlier in the route?
And command has been overturning everything that seemed "unreasonable" this season. I'm genuinely shocked. Dickenson The Greater is like "what does a guy have to do to win one of these!".
Quote from: J5V on August 23, 2025, 10:19:23 PMI'm definitely pulling for Calgary in this one. I just can't think of a circumstance where I'd ever pull for the Riders, ever.
I don't know man. All those years of BLM in CGY creaming us made me firmly ABC. We may have the big rivalry with SSK, but they weren't the ones bullying us all those years.
But ya, sometimes you have to be strategic with your hate!
Quote from: BBRT on August 23, 2025, 05:22:24 PMWill be at the game (I live in Calgary and still maintained my season tickets). Only been to 2 games this year. This will be my 3rd. Good news is that the game day sales have been very good so should be a near full house for a change. I am leaning toward a Calgary win but have my doubts.
Love having a "guy on the inside"! 2 questions:
1) Tons of green jerseys... what % of the crowd was green? Looked like 50% on TV!
2) Did you watch T.Harris after he got concussed? Was he wobbly all the way to the bench?
Bonus question: how early did all the greenie fans bail? (Though all credit to any fans making the driving trek to the neighbor stadium, I'm for anything that helps the CFL have more success.)
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Note his hand finger spacing, strange facial look, strange lean, facing & looking at nothing...
3Q0:47
If you missed his wonky walking the first time you should watch it again. It occurs after they cut away to the crowd cheering then cut back to Trevor once he's lifted up. You need to see him walk for the 3 sec they show him before realizing it was a really bad look.
He's gone. He should have taken a page out of Zach's book and just stayed laying down. Zach knows when it's the danger zone. There is nothing tough about looking like Cornish running like 3 Stooges Curly halfway on the ground, or in this case stumbling like a zombie.
And no, it's not funny, I'm not laughing or happy. It's really really sad to see a possible HOF QB going through this. Just like it was for Cornish, as much as I hated him ripping us a new one every week. (And Ricky Ray after that hi-lo hit we all remember...)
But if that team, or the league, doesn't look at his walk there, and they proceed to let him play in LDC... that's adding a lot of risk to Trevor and not a good look vis a vis "player safety".
Why was Sayles out? Is he likely to be out for LDC too?
If so, pick on his spot just like CGY did all night. Fields also looked limpy at times. Pick on him, or whoever is his replacement if he's out.
Secondary weaknesses starting to show for SSK. Although, they still did quite well especially against that deep shot. I might use more of the mid / zone-sit game against them, as well as our normal run/short game.
Riders lose bolds well for the Bombers heading to the LDC. We can catch these fools.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 24, 2025, 09:08:59 AMNote his hand finger spacing, strange facial look, strange lean, facing & looking at nothing...
For sure noticed it. Worried. Concussion before he is fully recovered from the last one. Light blows will cause this if he doesn't take a long rest, I am talking weeks or months. Is Mace going to ride him into the ground because it's his last year?
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 24, 2025, 09:19:20 AMWhy was Sayles out? Is he likely to be out for LDC too?
Unspecified illness. Likely back for LDC.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 24, 2025, 07:28:54 AMBonus question: how early did all the greenie fans bail? (Though all credit to any fans making the driving trek to the neighbor stadium, I'm for anything that helps the CFL have more success.)
True, but guaranteed most of those are expats living in Cal. Same when you see lots of Bomber fans in other CFL cities.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 24, 2025, 09:08:59 AM(https://fsi.ca/tec/tharrisconc.jpg)
Note his hand finger spacing, strange facial look, strange lean, facing & looking at nothing...
3Q0:47
If you missed his wonky walking the first time you should watch it again. It occurs after they cut away to the crowd cheering then cut back to Trevor once he's lifted up. You need to see him walk for the 3 sec they show him before realizing it was a really bad look.
He's gone. He should have taken a page out of Zach's book and just stayed laying down. Zach knows when it's the danger zone. There is nothing tough about looking like Cornish running like 3 Stooges Curly halfway on the ground, or in this case stumbling like a zombie.
And no, it's not funny, I'm not laughing or happy. It's really really sad to see a possible HOF QB going through this. Just like it was for Cornish, as much as I hated him ripping us a new one every week. (And Ricky Ray after that hi-lo hit we all remember...)
But if that team, or the league, doesn't look at his walk there, and they proceed to let him play in LDC... that's adding a lot of risk to Trevor and not a good look vis a vis "player safety".
Its the sad reality of pro sports. We say we're into player safety, but when push comes to shove in a game, shame on everyone involved with this, from the league's 'spotter' to the Riders themselves.
Harris was looking around like he did not know where he was right after that hit.
The Stamps got pressure on Harris all game. They rush the QB hard, usually with at least 4, plus some blitzing, although on the Harris concussion sack they were only rushing 3. Their d-line is very good. They get more pressure up the middle than we do, and their DEs actually try to get penetration instead of standing at the line of scrimmage waving their arms in passing lanes (sorry Willy but it's true, although part of that is he's often battling a double team).
Stamps o-line is also better than ours IMO, and Mills is a great back, brings a speed dimension that Brady does not have.
Philpot is a star also.
There's a recipe for beating the riders, but I'm not sure we have the necessary ingredients.
Sayles being out also made it easier to pick on Exume and Fields. Same for Ford in for an injured Lokombo. Hopefully we can take advantage of Saskatchewan's secondary, and hopefully we get some receiving help by Sunday.
Positive note is that Calgary was quite bad last season.
So a team can do a complete rebuild in one off season.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 24, 2025, 07:28:54 AMLove having a "guy on the inside"! 2 questions:
1) Tons of green jerseys... what % of the crowd was green? Looked like 50% on TV!
2) Did you watch T.Harris after he got concussed? Was he wobbly all the way to the bench?
Bonus question: how early did all the greenie fans bail? (Though all credit to any fans making the driving trek to the neighbor stadium, I'm for anything that helps the CFL have more success.)
I was at the game and to the best of my knowledge most of the Rider Fans stayed for the entire game. At least in the section where I have my season tickets. And I did not see Harris wobble to the bench. I think he was just in concussion protocol etc. I would bet he will be playing on the labor day game.
And before anyone gets too excited about the rider lost please remember that the Bombers are no where near the team from top to bottom that the Stamps are in 2025.
Quote from: markf on August 24, 2025, 04:11:31 PMPositive note is that Calgary was quite bad last season.
So a team can do a complete rebuild in one off season.
Calgary had a very good draft and picked up a couple of key pieces. Alford at #1, and Fortin at #8 are both playing very well. Adams also has been lights out for them.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 24, 2025, 09:08:59 AM(https://fsi.ca/tec/tharrisconc.jpg)
Note his hand finger spacing, strange facial look, strange lean, facing & looking at nothing...
Oh man! Just looking at that pic makes my stomach flip. Poor guy. Playing for a franchise that doesn't give a **** about his health, long term or short. When his career is over and he is suffering PCS he'll have grounds for a terrific lawsuit.
"The long-term effects of concussion
While the short-term symptoms of concussion are reversible, research suggests that even a single knock to the head can have severe consequences later in life. For example,
figures from one study that analysed the records of more than 160,000 trauma patients identified that, in patients aged 65 and older, just one concussion was associated with a 22-26% increase in the risk of dementia in the following five to seven years.
Even clearer is research showing that neurological damage accumulates with multiple knocks to the head, even when they are apparently symptomless, or 'sub-concussive'. Repeated concussion has been linked to increased risk of neurodegenerative conditions such as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's disease, as well as chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE).
Data from studies of former American footballers is staggering. A survey of more than 2000 retired professional players found that those with a history of multiple concussions were three times more likely to have been diagnosed with clinical depression. Another study of death certificates found that the death rate from neurodegenerative diseases was three times higher for pro-footballers than the general population."
I'm not sure if he has a concussion or not but I'm not sure how you can possibly tell he's gone one from a freeze framed still.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 24, 2025, 04:58:16 PMI'm not sure if he has a concussion or not but I'm not sure how you can possibly tell he's gone one from a freeze framed still.
Having watched the events unfold in real time and then seeing that still frame leads me to conclude he has one, IMO. YMMV.
If you get a chance, watch it in real time. He was creamed and his head slammed into the turf violently. I said as soon as it happened that he looked wobbly and dazed. Watch enough sports like football, boxing, MMA, etc. and you develop a sense for these things. Harris is notorious for not wanting to be taken out of a game for concussion protocol. He throws temper tantrums. That's why you can't leave the decision up to the athlete themselves. Machoism. If I was the spotter, I would have sat him, tantrum or not.
Quote from: BBRT on August 24, 2025, 04:30:55 PMI was at the game and to the best of my knowledge most of the Rider Fans stayed for the entire game. At least in the section where I have my season tickets. And I did not see Harris wobble to the bench. I think he was just in concussion protocol etc. I would bet he will be playing on the labor day game.
And before anyone gets too excited about the rider lost please remember that the Bombers are no where near the team from top to bottom that the Stamps are in 2025.
They are better than us right now, but we lost to them by one point on the road the last time we played, and we have some potential upgrades coming in Schoen, Wilson and Houston. I'd like to stay optimistic, meaning I thing we lose on labour day, but hopefully take the Banjo Bowl.
Quote from: BBRT on August 24, 2025, 04:30:55 PMI was at the game and to the best of my knowledge most of the Rider Fans stayed for the entire game. At least in the section where I have my season tickets. And I did not see Harris wobble to the bench. I think he was just in concussion protocol etc. I would bet he will be playing on the labor day game.
And before anyone gets too excited about the rider lost please remember that the Bombers are no where near the team from top to bottom that the Stamps are in 2025.
mmm, thanks for the reminder I guess. I think your last paragraph is over blown, sure Calgary looks great now, but that statement is an overestimation. We shall see how this plays out in the back half of the year.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 24, 2025, 04:58:16 PMI'm not sure if he has a concussion or not but I'm not sure how you can possibly tell he's gone one from a freeze framed still.
It's (much) harder for me to do video clips... That's why I provided the exact time in the game where the 3 secs of zombie walking occurred, so everyone can check it out for themselves.
I guarantee if anyone watches that 3 secs a couple of times focusing just on Trevor, they'll agree with me/us.
If you deleted it from your PVR already, it's not really my problem!
Quote from: blue_or_die on August 24, 2025, 02:24:30 PMTrue, but guaranteed most of those are expats living in Cal. Same when you see lots of Bomber fans in other CFL cities.
Ya, I don't know. There was a poop ton of greenies there. Waaaaay more than I've ever seen for a a reg season SSK@CGY game. I know at least some made the trek: they announce it on the Riderforum. What the % mix is, hard to say.
What is true is that's the fullest that stadium has been in since probably the BLM days (excluding post-season). Surely there can't be
that many SSKites living in CGY?
Video of concussed Trevor Harris 2025-08-23 (https://fsi.ca/tec/tharris.mp4)
(play it a few times...)
Ok, learned a new skill today, command line extraction of a frame range...
Watch it and cringe...
That's when you're telling your body to do something but the signals are going all haywire. Just like Cornish. It's a bad look for the league. I respect more and more how Zach handles it, he always ALWAYS just lays down until the initial nastiness passes and then quietly leaves the game.
Trevor taking the 2nd head-hitting sack after this might have done extra bad damage, as you're in the danger zone temporally.
P.S. This first hit did not injure his legs. The zombie limp is purely concussion. How do I know? He's walking perfectly normal on the sidelines 20s later, and fine in the next series. It was the 2nd head hit that he dinged up his ankle and started limping. That's the hit Mace pulled him right after.
What's extremely odd & alarming is the hoggies, dude helping him up, ball boy, and ref all seem to be going out of their way to ignore him and look away and get away as fast as they can. Some are looking right at him then turning away.
No one is worried about him or wants to say "hey dude, you ok?".
It's like "I don't want to be a part of this and get in trouble". That ref looking right at him at the end... just "ho hum".
TSN Director is like: "CUT TO CAMERA 6... CUT TO CAMERA 6 NOW NOW NOW!!!!"
This is getting a bit ridiculous, Techno. For certain, "ball boys", refs, players, and TSN are not colluding to cover up a Trevor Harris concussion.
The clip also looks like how someone would react if they stubbed their toe or has a calf cramp. We'll see what the injury report looks like this week I suppose.
Again, I'm not saying he doesn't have one but I can also tell you for sure it doesn't show conclusively that he does either.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 25, 2025, 09:44:35 AMVideo of concussed Trevor Harris 2025-08-23 (https://fsi.ca/tec/tharris.mp4)
(play it a few times...)
Ok, learned a new skill today, command line extraction of a frame range...
Watch it and cringe...
That's when you're telling your body to do something but the signals are going all haywire. Just like Cornish. It's a bad look for the league. I respect more and more how Zach handles it, he always ALWAYS just lays down until the initial nastiness passes and then quietly leaves the game.
Trevor taking the 2nd head-hitting sack after this might have done extra bad damage, as you're in the danger zone temporally.
P.S. This first hit did not injure his legs. The zombie limp is purely concussion. How do I know? He's walking perfectly normal on the sidelines 20s later, and fine in the next series. It was the 2nd head hit that he dinged up his ankle and started limping. That's the hit Mace pulled him right after.
Yeah, I agree, it's cringe. He's doing the zombie stagger there like a boxer or MMA fighter that's been rocked by a punch, IMO. If you go to about 30:19 and watch it all in real speed/time you can see Harris staggering about. He looks like he's trying to figure out what's going on and wants to give the ball to someone but everyone is ignoring him. The more I watch it the more convinced I am that his bell is rung.
Jump ahead to about 34:00 to see where he has what appears to be the leg cramp issues.
At about 34:41 we don't see Harris or Oullette any more and I think Oullette is dinged at this point too.
Man, that Calgary D just punishes the Riders in this game. What an absolute ****-kicking. The Riders are delusional if they still think they are the better team and the Stamps may have done the Bombers a big favour by stomping the Riders for us. The Rider team psyche has to be crushed not to mention the full hot tub the Riders will be sitting in this week. If the Bombers can lay another beating on the Riders this weekend the Rider collapse will be in full bloom.
https://youtu.be/KLlA9HZMObk
A few minutes after the hit you can see him stretching out his calf. He was probably cramping well before that and that's entirely the reason he looks to be limping after taking the hit. Going to go with what is obvious here and suggest he's just got calf cramps and that's why no one appears concerned.
But you both should look into seeing if this whole game wasn't a deep fake ai simulation. If you look hard enough... there may be signs that none of this even happened at all.
It's not something I have ever seen him do before and he had just whacked his head on the turf. He went to the tent briefly but I wonder if they have gone through this so many times he can give the right answers by rote. He just never wants to come out. It's up to the Sask training staff to protect him by being thorough and cautious.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 25, 2025, 01:16:12 PMA few minutes after the hit you can see him stretching out his calf. He was probably cramping well before that and that's entirely the reason he looks to be limping after taking the hit. Going to go with what is obvious here and suggest he's just got calf cramps and that's why no one appears concerned.
No one is saying he doesn't have leg cramps but watch his head hit the turf in real time on that tackle. I think that blow to the head rang his bell. I'm not sure how you are convinced there was no effect at all. This is a player with a history of concussions and to see no concern being shown after a blow like that is disconcerting and that wasn't the only blow he took. He got rocked several times in this game as did Maier when Harris was finally pulled.
QuoteBut you both should look into seeing if this whole game wasn't a deep fake ai simulation. If you look hard enough... there may be signs that none of this even happened at all.
I'm not sure this response is warranted just because someone has a different opinion to yours. I'm betting you know what I think you can do with this comment. ;)
You both are staring at a random inkblot and confidently claiming it's a dragon. It looks a little like a dragon. It could also be a mountain. Or a random inkblot.
I do enjoy Techno's 2 am theories about the conspiracy occurring in the TSN broadcast truck but the sun is back in the sky now.
I still maintain the Stampeders are the most complete team in the West.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 24, 2025, 09:14:40 PMmmm, thanks for the reminder I guess. I think your last paragraph is over blown, sure Calgary looks great now, but that statement is an overestimation. We shall see how this plays out in the back half of the year.
Agree that I might have awarded the Stamps a little early. I was at the game and even though I believe that the Riders have one of the best Defenses in the league the Stamps really put a hurt on them. I was really impressed with the Stamps OL and how well they handled the Riders DL and LB's. But I agree let's see how the second half of the season goes especially when the weather turns and late fall sets in. My major issue is that I believe both the Stamps and Riders have more talent across the board than the Bombers do.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on August 25, 2025, 02:57:00 PMI still maintain the Stampeders are the most complete team in the West.
prob the CFL...VA has made a huge difference for them. I know Dickenson has some haters on this board but he is a solid coach who has lots of experience and they have a young and aggressive o-line who are playing very well as a unit. Their defence hits hard too.
Weather in Calgary is a crapshoot and I predict there will be a playoff game there if VA stays healthy.
The west is going to be dogfight...no games off and no easy games for us.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 25, 2025, 09:44:35 AMVideo of concussed Trevor Harris 2025-08-23 (https://fsi.ca/tec/tharris.mp4)
(play it a few times...)
Ok, learned a new skill today, command line extraction of a frame range...
Watch it and cringe...
That's when you're telling your body to do something but the signals are going all haywire. Just like Cornish. It's a bad look for the league. I respect more and more how Zach handles it, he always ALWAYS just lays down until the initial nastiness passes and then quietly leaves the game.
Trevor taking the 2nd head-hitting sack after this might have done extra bad damage, as you're in the danger zone temporally.
P.S. This first hit did not injure his legs. The zombie limp is purely concussion. How do I know? He's walking perfectly normal on the sidelines 20s later, and fine in the next series. It was the 2nd head hit that he dinged up his ankle and started limping. That's the hit Mace pulled him right after.
I was reading today that "
According to numerous medical journals, concussions can cause muscle spasms." I wasn't aware of that but you'd think trained medical staffs would be which adds to the mystery of the lack of concern for Trevor's brain health. I certainly agree with you that it's a bad look for the league and the Riders. I'm glad that Zach and the Bombers take a much more cautious approach.
Quote from: The Zipp on August 25, 2025, 03:07:16 PMprob the CFL...VA has made a huge difference for them. I know Dickenson has some haters on this board but he is a solid coach who has lots of experience and they have a young and aggressive o-line who are playing very well as a unit. Their defence hits hard too.
In 2023 and 2024, all they were missing was a 1QB. Now that they have one again, they look like the Stampeders of old under the Hufnagel/Dickenson regime.
Trading for Adams was a brilliant move in hindsight.
Quote from: J5V on August 25, 2025, 03:30:03 PMI was reading today that "According to numerous medical journals, concussions can cause muscle spasms." I wasn't aware of that but you'd think trained medical staffs would be which adds to the mystery of the lack of concern for Trevor's brain health. I certainly agree with you that it's a bad look for the league and the Riders. I'm glad that Zach and the Bombers take a much more cautious approach.
The concussion argument keeps going in circles but seems to resurface every couple of weeks. Looking at the 2 hits that concussed Harris and Zach a few weeks ago, it's not hard to classify them both as
using excessive force that went well beyond wrapping a player up or simply tackling, there was an element of punishment and sending a message involved.
The hit on Zach sent him catapulting backwards causing him to land on his back and smashing his head into the turf. The DE that took out Harris landed with his full weight on his upper chest, again smashing the back of his head into the turf. No penalty was called on either play when the intent and results were fairly obvious. Would a bear hug not have sufficed in both cases?
The key to protecting all players is a movement to eliminate all cases of
excessive force. It doesn't matter who the victim is, all players deserve the same level of protection and only they can tone down the level of violence they dole out on the field to their fellow competitors. As long as players are taught doling out extra punishment is a good attribute the game will continue to consume the players that sustain and finance it's operation.
The following article on Micah Awe gives a brief explanation of why he turns from a reasonable human into a psychopath when he steps on the field, it's self preservation and the economic pressure he feels to retain his job that drive his actions, not ill intent.
https://3downnation.com/2025/08/22/b-c-lions-linebacker-micah-awe-issued-max-fine-for-pair-of-head-hits-against-alouettes/ (https://3downnation.com/2025/08/22/b-c-lions-linebacker-micah-awe-issued-max-fine-for-pair-of-head-hits-against-alouettes/)
Awe acknowledged the two penalties when asked by 3DownNation after that game, but indicated that he feared he'd be knocked unconscious if he had approached the second one any differently."
"That one's tough because it's a fullback; he has 30 pounds on me. The moment I don't go full speed, he runs me over, and now I'm in the newspaper another way," he said."If he would have got me and I got knocked out, the honest truth is the offence is not going to get penalized for that. For me, it's never malice. It's just me. That's what I do. I run to the ball. That's the only reason why I've lasted eight years is because I have effort and I show it."
Zach Collaros interview July 23 2025 wpg sun
https://winnipegsun.com/sports/football/cfl/winnipeg-bluebombers/collaros-more-protection-for-qbs-july-24-2025
" "I just think there is not a lot of consistency, and that is the bottom line," Collaros said in a previous interview. "There are ways to mitigate those hits from happening, I think they would have to be drastic, and I don't think the league, or the union or the (CFL Players) Association are ready to do those kinds of things."
Same article Re Dru Brown:
" Hamilton defensive back DaShaun Amos came free on a blitz and drilled Brown at 12:33 of the second quarter. Amos was assessed a Grade 2 roughing the passer penalty, resulting in a 25-yard loss.
"We say we're going to protect quarterbacks, but I don't know how that's not an ejection," Ottawa head coach Bob Dyce told TSN's Claire Hanna after the intermission.
A Grade 2 roughing the passer penalty can be called if a "blow is delivered with the crown of the helmet to the head or neck area of the passer, despite having a clear view to contact, and there are no mitigating circumstances such as the QB's helmet level changing prior to contact."
On replay, it appeared the point of contact was the face mask. Brown did not return to the game."
It's obvious that the CFL could do more to protect quarterbacks, no matter what they, players, coaches, managers, league officials all say. Crocodile tears. Phoney concern.
Quote from: markf on August 25, 2025, 05:07:25 PMIt's obvious that the CFL could do more to protect quarterbacks, no matter what they, players, coaches, managers, league officials all say. Crocodile tears. Phoney concern.
Really?
They're pretty well protected already, it's just a dangerous sport.
I don't know if I want to take the extra step to make it touch football, to be honest.
Quote from: Jesse on August 25, 2025, 05:40:25 PMReally?
They're pretty well protected already, it's just a dangerous sport.
I don't know if I want to take the extra step to make it touch football, to be honest.
Not really, I believe 7 of the 9 starting QB's have missed games so far this season, won't be long till it's 9 for 9.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 25, 2025, 06:12:03 PMNot really, I believe 7 of the 9 starting QB's have missed games so far this season, won't be long till it's 9 for 9.
Because it's football and guys from every positional group get injured. But QBs already have an almost ridiculous amount of extra protection on them. Which I agree with, but I'm not sure how you can do any more to protect them unless you make them completely untouchable.
Its pretty easy in theory actually. Make it more punitive to take a shot at the QBs. Make roughing the passer 25 yards. Make a grade 2 RFP an automatic suspension for that game and the next. Make any player's second RFP in a season an automatic suspension for that game and the next. Third would be a 3 game suspension, 4th a 4 game, etc...It won't get rid of the clean hits that injure QBs, but will decrease some of the garbage we see now. But it won't happen, because as Zach alluded to the league (and ironically) the player's association will not allow it. Got to protect the D-lineman's game cheque, even if it comes at the cost of the QBs health and the quality of the league's play.
Quote from: bunker on August 25, 2025, 07:12:17 PMIts pretty easy in theory actually. Make it more punitive to take a shot at the QBs. Make roughing the passer 25 yards. Make a grade 2 RFP an automatic suspension for that game and the next. Make any player's second RFP in a season an automatic suspension for that game and the next. Third would be a 3 game suspension, 4th a 4 game, etc...It won't get rid of the clean hits that injure QBs, but will decrease some of the garbage we see now. But it won't happen, because as Zach alluded to the league (and ironically) the player's association will not allow it. Got to protect the D-lineman's game cheque, even if it comes at the cost of the QBs health and the quality of the league's play.
You might be right but I notice the DB's and LB's have mostly absorbed the message, rarely has a violation occurred for hitting a sliding QB this season, they pretty much do whatever they can to avoid contact.
I agree. Most seems to occur behind the line of scrimmage. Some of it is due to the chaos that goes on back there and is not always intentional. There's the D-lineman falling into the QBs legs because he's pushed from behind by the O-lineman, that's going to happen regardless of the penalty, because its not really the D-lineman's fault.
But there's also plays where there's an element of intention on the part of the D-lineman, like where the D-lineman is falling forward and decides he's going to take a shot at the QBs legs while going down. Or like when recently, one of the QBs was taken out by the other team (can't recall the game) and then next series the D takes a late shot at the other teams QB in retaliation. That might happen less often.
And of course then there's the extreme Marino move, which is uncommon, but might be discouraged by stricter penalties. (Although player like Marino and Awe are so destructive, who really knows if it would affect them.)
Quote from: bunker on August 25, 2025, 07:12:17 PMIts pretty easy in theory actually. Make it more punitive to take a shot at the QBs. Make roughing the passer 25 yards. Make a grade 2 RFP an automatic suspension for that game and the next. Make any player's second RFP in a season an automatic suspension for that game and the next. Third would be a 3 game suspension, 4th a 4 game, etc...It won't get rid of the clean hits that injure QBs, but will decrease some of the garbage we see now. But it won't happen, because as Zach alluded to the league (and ironically) the player's association will not allow it. Got to protect the D-lineman's game cheque, even if it comes at the cost of the QBs health and the quality of the league's play.
I don't know how much it helps in practice. Some of these RTP calls are so iffy already. Players really do their best to avoid the QB in the vast majority of cases. But again, it's football and things happen.
How many QB injuries are even happening because of illegal hits? Zach and Dru (most recently) were both taken out cleanly. We see a few no contact injuries as well.
I don't think there's a way to legislate injuries out of football.
I watch a bit of NFL. Not long ago they had the worst kind of head hunting imaginable. It was celebrated.
But They have largely eliminated these kind of hits to the head in that league. And we all know the hitting is extreme in the NFL.
So it can be done.
"It's part of the game" is what used to be said about the broad street bullies stick work. Mostly gone now.
The NFL has done a pretty good job with hip drop tackles too and the CFL has seen a few guys go down with those kind of tackles this year.
Quote from: The Zipp on August 25, 2025, 03:07:16 PMprob the CFL...VA has made a huge difference for them. I know Dickenson has some haters on this board but he is a solid coach who has lots of experience and they have a young and aggressive o-line who are playing very well as a unit. Their defence hits hard too.
Weather in Calgary is a crapshoot and I predict there will be a playoff game there if VA stays healthy.
The west is going to be dogfight...no games off and no easy games for us.
This was Dickie Dee's mulligan season. If they crapped the bed again he would be toast! I'm surprised what a quick rebuild they have done though. Getting a true #1 qb helps though in this league.
Calgary's d line is solid. I can see why they did not resign vaughters and that other proven vet. They were getting heat on Harris even with only rushing 4 a lot of the game. Bombers front 4 I doubt can duplicate this.
If Harris is out for the LDC, bombers have a good chance to win. Collaros has to Chuck it quickly and/or Olivera has another bully ball game like last game too. Still hard to judge where
This team is at as injuries keep occurring.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 25, 2025, 08:28:54 AMYa, I don't know. There was a poop ton of greenies there. Waaaaay more than I've ever seen for a a reg season SSK@CGY game. I know at least some made the trek: they announce it on the Riderforum. What the % mix is, hard to say.
What is true is that's the fullest that stadium has been in since probably the BLM days (excluding post-season). Surely there can't be that many SSKites living in CGY?
There is not as many Sask fans in Calgary than just 5-10 years ago, but still a significant number and the trek to Calgary is shorter than to
Regina for some living in far west Saskatchewan.
Stamps also creating a bit of a buzz again for first time in the 2020's.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 25, 2025, 09:56:35 PMThe NFL has done a pretty good job with hip drop tackles too and the CFL has seen a few guys go down with those kind of tackles this year.
And there was a lot of NFL fans complaining about that too. "How are they supposed to tackle.. might as well watch flag football"
Quote from: ichabod_crane on August 25, 2025, 10:46:02 PMThere is not as many Sask fans in Calgary than just 5-10 years ago, but still a significant number and the trek to Calgary is shorter than to
Regina for some living in far west Saskatchewan.
Stamps also creating a bit of a buzz again for first time in the 2020's.
Don't know about that, I'd bet there's more Sask. natives living in AB now than ever before, as the pop. of the province has grown to 4 million+. They're probably less likely to attend CFL games than they were 5-10 years ago, reflecting the same attitude taken in their home province. Doubt more than a few dozen travelled to the game specifically, the majority have been in Calgary all along, they only stepped out of the closet now because they're no longer embarrassed about their football team, must be time for them to jump up on the bandwagon again!
Quote from: markf on August 25, 2025, 05:07:25 PMOn replay, it appeared the point of contact was the face mask. Brown did not return to the game."
There are special carve outs in the rulebook as to facemask hits. UR "ram" definition explicitly says "if the facemask is the initial point of contact on an the opponent, it shall not be a penalty under this rule". So a ram is not a ram if you use your FM to do it.
This could be by Dru/Dyce didn't get the flag they wanted.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 25, 2025, 12:02:21 PMThe clip also looks like how someone would react if they stubbed their toe or has a calf cramp. We'll see what the injury report looks like this week I suppose.
Again, I'm not saying he doesn't have one but I can also tell you for sure it doesn't show conclusively that he does either.
If you watch the clip 4X and your take is "stubbed toe" then I'm not really sure what to tell you. Seriously.
There's no "conspiracy" to cover anything up. There doesn't have to be. And it's a separate issue from stating the fact that Trevor is showing all the classic signs of concussion.
The green players want to act like nothing is wrong so the spotters don't notice and yank their only hope of winning. The ball guy is thinking: "this is above my pay grade".
The ref actually does seem to be eyeing up Trevor, so maybe he was actually going to do something... and maybe he did. Trevor did go off immediately and maybe he reported it to the spotter or assumed the team would check him out.
As to knowing definitively, we may never know, as I have zero doubt SSK will play him in LDC even if he was concussed. There aren't many teams that opt in to sitting their QBs an extra week or 2 because of suspected concussion. We're one, OTT seems to be another. SSK is the type to do a "if you don't look/act concussed, then you're cleared to play".
I'm going to see about whipping up another clip to convince the undecided, but it will take a bit of time.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 25, 2025, 07:18:30 PMYou might be right but I notice the DB's and LB's have mostly absorbed the message, rarely has a violation occurred for hitting a sliding QB this season, they pretty much do whatever they can to avoid contact.
Ya, but it cuts both ways. This past weekend there was at least 1 QB run (Rourke?) where he got 15+ extra yards because it was clear the LBs/DBs didn't want to hit him hard or if he was going to slide.
The fear or penalty/fines is putting them in a bind and letting "running QBs" get a bunch of free yards if they have the nads to not slide.
Quote from: bunker on August 25, 2025, 07:12:17 PMGot to protect the D-lineman's game cheque, even if it comes at the cost of the QBs health and the quality of the league's play.
The funny thing is we have the best player who would benefit most from any "more like touch/flag football" changes: Willie J. Except for that "RTP" when he rubbed Evans' helmet in the backfield in the '21 GC, he's the DE who is most destructive without putting big hits on the QB.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 25, 2025, 06:12:03 PMNot really, I believe 7 of the 9 starting QB's have missed games so far this season, won't be long till it's 9 for 9.
The running QBs are getting the expected leg injuries. The older QBs (and Dru) are the ones getting the concussions.
The young ones (sans Dru) don't really get the concussions. Well, they probably are, they just don't show it yet because of their youth.
I still think all the oldsters should be wearing pillows (or high-tech simulacrum) behind their helmets. Zach would have been fine. Trevor would have been fine. Dru would have been fine. They all took the same hit (some 2+ times) this season.
If I'm a defender facing a QB running past the LoS I'm diving for the legs. There is zero possibility of penalty/fine if you dive for the legs and knock out the feet or form tackle the knees. It's the possibility of a head hit that is scaring them off: QB head protection extends beyond the LoS since '23 or so!
Key point being "beyond the LoS". If the QB is in the "pocket" (even if they make a "new one" on a scramble) then they get leg protection knee or below.
I hope our coaches are drilling these things in the guys so they don't just let running QBs romp downfield with impunity.