Bombers vs Alouettes...Another game the Bombers need to win to keep pace and playoff hopes alive in the west.
The injury status and roster continues to improve and with Demario Houston at least in the mix and Cam Lawson, Peyton Logan and Dalton Schoen doing full workouts this week. These signs are indicators that some positive roster changes are being considered.
Coach O'Shea qualified Schoen's return to the lineup by saying, " I think Dalton probably needs a little more time but he looked good out there today running around."
More updates and depth charts for the game will be forthcoming. Let's go Bombers!
Much like last week, this 'should' be a comfortable victory if we expect this club to start making noise in the second half of the season.
Quote from: Jesse on August 19, 2025, 07:12:16 PMMuch like last week, this 'should' be a comfortable victory if we expect this club to start making noise in the second half of the season.
This team has to figure out how to play with a lead and keep it - in general but especially against "inferior" opponents.
James Morgan starting, from on the Gazette.
Quote from: ModAdmin on August 19, 2025, 06:56:17 PMBombers vs Alouettes...Another game the Bombers need to win to keep pace and playoff hopes alive in the west.
The injury status and roster continues to improve and with Demario Houston at least in the mix and Cam Lawson, Peyton Logan and Dalton Schoen doing full workouts this week. These signs are indicators that some positive roster changes are being considered.
Coach O'Shea qualified Schoen's return to the lineup by saying, " I think Dalton probably needs a little more time but he looked good out there today running around."
More updates and depth charts for the game will be forthcoming. Let's go Bombers!
Schoen will complete his 6 game IR stint. So he won't be back for another couple of weeks at the earliest.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 19, 2025, 08:52:05 PMSchoen will complete his 6 game IR stint. So he won't be back for another couple of weeks at the earliest.
I believe Labour Day
Quote from: peg_city on August 19, 2025, 09:01:50 PMI believe Labour Day
He didn't practice today after working out on Monday, so might not be that soon.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 19, 2025, 08:52:05 PMSchoen will complete his 6 game IR stint. So he won't be back for another couple of weeks at the earliest.
So do we know what Schoen's thing was? My guess is
strained knee ligament? Clearly not torn. But you really need to be careful with these things!! Strains turn into tears real easily.
And now we'll be holding our breath every time he's running and changing direction just like we do every time Zach takes a hit... I pray this is the last we see of knee issues for Schoen.
P.S. The knee with the brace... was it the same knee he blew up last year or not??
I think we'll be able to attack that MTL D with all those injuries. The Thorpe D is probably the most complicated one, after our "match coverage".
MTL never brings what they show. It's all (Hall) smoke & mirrors. Lots for the players to remember. Tough on the injury replacements.
Their DB play different schemes, too. Lots of route jumping and roving. The FS is the roving-est in the league. So far their new FS hasn't been able to duplicate what Dequoy brings (who could?).
Just watch out for their DL. Those guys are huge, and can stuff Brady. And Thorpe likes to blitz a fair bit because he's always mixing things up.
If we get ahead by any kind of comfortable margin, get Collaros out of there. Let Strev run out the clock. Call me a nervous Nellie if you want but I will never trust a team that plays Lemon to not take liberties with a QB.
Quote from: Waffler on August 20, 2025, 11:34:29 AMIf we get ahead by any kind of comfortable margin, get Collaros out of there. Let Strev run out the clock. Call me a nervous Nellie if you want but I will never trust a team that plays Lemon to not take liberties with a QB.
i hope we get waaay up but given our offense taking entire quarters off seems to be the norm and the fact that the Als defence is very good and will be fired up knowing they are starting their 4th string QB...this game will be close.
We need a 60 minutes effort tomorrow. Have to play a complete game. OL will have to be good, it's time to get BO20 going.
Logan is in, Peterson is out
Houston not dressed.
Quote from: The Zipp on August 20, 2025, 01:46:42 PMLogan is in, Peterson is out
Houston not dressed.
Hahaha O'Shea is such a coy guy on the mic. Watching the presser yesterday he made it sound like adding Logan would be this hard system switch they weren't even considering considering and then 24 hours later he's in.
Love the poker.
Thomas, Schmekel and Lawson all in means we can rotate an all Canadian interior if we want. Particularly on passing downs probably.
Quote from: Waffler on August 20, 2025, 11:34:29 AMIf we get ahead by any kind of comfortable margin, get Collaros out of there. Let Strev run out the clock. Call me a nervous Nellie if you want but I will never trust a team that plays Lemon to not take liberties with a QB.
I dont see us getting a comfortable margin ,mtrls front 7 is too good, and , Zac hasnt been great under pressure ty
Also for some reason as soon as we get a lead we go very conservative, letting the other team drive the field with underneath stuff. Hopefully we learned something the last two games with blown leads
I also have the feeling that Zac will be in full game management mode. The one thing we dont want to do is let mtrl's d best us (again) with turnovers
Nice Logan is in
Weitz in good on teams
Lawson in is good
No Houston as expected, don't rush a guy that hasn't played ball for a bit, someone else made a good point wouldn't know the playbook yet / calls either
Lineup looks good
All about the play of the OL and getting Brady going imo
Rest should fall into place
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 20, 2025, 02:28:08 PMNice Logan is in
Weitz in good on teams
Lawson in is good
No Houston as expected, don't rush a guy that hasn't played ball for a bit, someone else made a good point wouldn't know the playbook yet / calls either
Lineup looks good
All about the play of the OL and getting Brady going imo
Rest should fall into place
And if not? We could always try patience? ;D
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 20, 2025, 02:32:40 PMAnd if not? We could always try patience? ;D
There is no try, it's just good roster management this week
Bombers have been patient with developing guys, rosters decisions, coaches and with free agent signings
It's a pillar of strength with this club, stay the course even in rough waters, teams approach and next man up
Can't wait to see Houston and Woods!!!
a screen pass to Logan in the open field? Sign me up...I seem to recall him being very fast so any way to get him in space is going to get first downs. or maybe we save that play for labour day - opening drive TD to get the crowd quiet.
It will be nice to get Logan out there. We can use a little spark to the offence.
When Houston is ready, who comes off the roster now? Vaval, Cam Allen or Ayers?
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 20, 2025, 02:28:08 PMNice Logan is in
Weitz in good on teams
Lawson in is good
No Houston as expected, don't rush a guy that hasn't played ball for a bit, someone else made a good point wouldn't know the playbook yet / calls either
Lineup looks good
All about the play of the OL and getting Brady going imo
Rest should fall into place
What's your evidence that Weitz is good on teams?
Quote from: LXTSN on August 20, 2025, 02:54:41 PMIt will be nice to get Logan out there. We can use a little spark to the offence.
When Houston is ready, who comes off the roster now? Vaval, Cam Allen or Ayers?
Ayers, if our coaches can figure out how to replace the 1 ST tackle he gets a game. Might be impossible but we can dream.
Honestly, no reason that the Bombers lose this game.
Montreal is a mess right now.
Why did they move Peterson to the PR? Is the theory that Logan becomes the back up RB even though it creates a ratio problem when he goes on offence for a few plays? Essentially moving Peterson created a roster spot for Weitz.
I don't get the value of that switch. Peterson was playing on ST's but his value was an in game injury replacement at RB.
As predicted J. Jones would be the import bumped by whichever import was added this week ( Logan ).
Kornelson released outright. Not exactly surprised but unfortunate that he didn't pan out. Drafted in 2023. Attended his 3rd TC this season and played 6 games.
Why does Cooley still show on the PR? Can't the league get data info correct in something close to real time?
This week is going to be an interesting test for several players.
1. Vaval at CB. Does he continue holding a starting spot at CB or get pushed back to returner with Houston in the wings?
2. Lawson at CB. He doesn't have the same versatility as Vaval, so what does the future hold for him?
3. Logan as our returner. He has good versatility. At worst he's good depth at a few spots but might be our primary returner going forward with Vaval as the alternate.
4. D. Mitchell. Game 3 and so far he's added 29 yards on 5 receptions. Time to shine?
We might be seeing Schoen back in the near future. This week is game 6 since he went on 6 game IR. In theory he could be back next week. How Mitchell plays might factor into being able to delay his return.
Clearly when Houston does return it will have a domino effect among several positions including those on the PR. I wonder where Parker fits in this equation and wonder if he gets bumped to 6 game IR. This is game 3 he'll miss on 1 game IR but the fact we added 2 DB's this week suggests he won't be ready any time soon?
10 days before the 1st game against the Riders.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 20, 2025, 03:07:20 PMWhy did they move Peterson to the PR? Is the theory that Logan becomes the back up RB even though it creates a ratio problem when he goes on offence for a few plays? Essentially moving Peterson created a roster spot for Weitz.
I don't get the value of that switch. Peterson was playing on ST's but his value was an in game injury replacement at RB.
As predicted J. Jones would be the import bumped by whichever import was added this week ( Logan ).
Kornelson released outright. Not exactly surprised but unfortunate that he didn't pan out. Drafted in 2023. Attended his 3rd TC this season and played 6 games.
Why does Cooley still show on the PR? Can't the league get data info correct in something close to real time?
I guess Schmeck showed he was the next DT up over Kornelson but with Jake nearing the end I can't believe they released him. Maybe he didn't show a good work ethic or maybe he requested his release?
Can't ever understand why they keep bringing Weitz back but I suppose Mike Miller takes his ST roster very seriously and requests certain moves be made to achieve that aim and MOS complies.
We lost Novak earlier and now Hallett that both played well on ST's. J. Jones needing to come off to get Logan on also played on ST's.
Peterson also had some ST experience so this is an interesting series of changes to our ST roster.
What does Bailey need to do to get on the AR when we choose to use a 2nd global player? Keeping in mind this is more a forced choice due to injuries to Canadian players.
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Peyton Logan to make Winnipeg Blue Bombers debut against Alouettes
By John Hodge -August 20, 2025
The Winnipeg Blue Bombers will have Peyton Logan in the lineup for the first time this season when they visit the Montreal Alouettes on Thursday night.
The five-foot-seven, 189-pound speedster signed with the Blue Bombers as a free agent following a three-year stint with the Calgary Stampeders. He suffered a thigh injury early in training camp, which caused him to miss the preseason and the first nine games of the regular-season.
The 26-year-old native of Memphis, Tenn. has rushed for 889 yards, caught 42 passes for 330 yards, returned 136 punts for 1,501 yards, returned 69 kickoffs for 1,580 yards, and scored seven touchdowns over 36 career regular-season CFL games.
Logan has been listed as Winnipeg's backup running back behind Brady Oliveira and as one of the team's two returners alongside rookie Trey Vaval. Canadian rookie Matthew Peterson, who has been the primary backup running back for most of this season, has been moved to the practice roster.
Canadian defensive back Nick Hallett (head/eye) has been moved to the one-game injured list, as has American linebacker Jonathan Jones (healthy scratch). Canadian defensive lineman Cameron Lawson (hip) and Global linebacker Fabien Weitz (practice roster) have been moved to the active roster in their place. Winnipeg also announced the release of Canadian defensive lineman Collin Kornelson from the practice roster.
Dalton Schoen, who was a full participant in practice on Monday, remains out due to a knee injury. This week will end his stint on the six-game injured list, at which point he may be placed back on the active roster if healthy.
The Winnipeg Blue Bombers (5-4) will visit the Montreal Alouettes (5-5) at Percival Molson Stadium on Thursday, August 21 with kickoff slated for 7:30 p.m. EDT. The Blue Bombers are coming off a walk-off win over the Ottawa Redblacks, while Montreal lost 36-18 on the road to the B.C. Lions.
The weather forecast in Montreal calls for a high of 27 degrees with a mix of sun and cloud. The game will be broadcast on TSN and RDS in Canada, CBS Sports Network in the United States, and CFL+ internationally. Radio listeners can tune-in on 680 CJOB in Winnipeg and TSN 690 in Montreal.
https://3downnation.com/2025/08/20/peyton-logan-to-make-winnipeg-blue-bombers-debut-against-alouettes/
Official: Montreal Alouettes to start QB James Morgan against Blue Bombers
By 3Down Staff -August 20, 2025
The Montreal Alouettes will start James Morgan at quarterback against the Winnipeg Blue Bombers on Thursday night.
The 28-year-old native of Green Bay, Wis. played three quarters against the B.C. Lions last week in relief of Caleb Evans, who is out for the season after suffering a torn ACL. He completed 20-of-33 pass attempts for 211 yards, one touchdown, and one interception as his team lost 36-18.
The six-foot-four, 229-pound passer was originally a fourth-round pick in the 2020 NFL Draft by the New York Jets out of Florida International University. He spent time with five different NFL teams and the Pittsburgh Maulers of the USFL before signing with the Alouettes last year, spending most of the season on the practice roster.
Shea Patterson, who signed with the Alouettes earlier this week, will dress as the third-stringer behind Morgan and Cameron Dukes. Montreal's top three quarterbacks — Davis Alexander, McLeod Bethel-Thompson, and Evans — are all on the six-game injured list.
The Alouettes have made two other changes to the roster as Canadian running back Sean Thomas-Erlington (neck) and field-side cornerbacker Kabion Ento (calf) have returned to the lineup. Thomas-Erlington has dressed for nine games on the year and rushed for 361 yards and two touchdowns, while Ento has played seven, recording 21 defensive tackles and three interceptions.
Canadian fullback David Dallaire and defensive back Robert Kennedy III have both been moved to the one-game injured list. With Ento returning, veteran defensive back Ciante Evans has been moved to field-side halfback in Kennedy's place.
Some key players who remain out for the Alouettes due to injury include receivers Austin Mack and Tyson Philpot, offensive lineman Justin Lawrence, defensive lineman Mustafa Johnson, defensive backs Dionte Ruffin and Marc-Antoine Dequoy, and returner James Letcher Jr.
The Montreal Alouettes (5-5) will host the Winnipeg Blue Bombers (5-4) at Percival Molson Stadium on Thursday, August 21 with kickoff slated for 7:30 p.m. EDT. The Blue Bombers are coming off a walk-off win over the Ottawa Redblacks, while Montreal lost 36-18 on the road to the B.C. Lions.
The weather forecast in Montreal calls for a high of 27 degrees with a mix of sun and cloud. The game will be broadcast on TSN and RDS in Canada, CBS Sports Network in the United States, and CFL+ internationally. Radio listeners can tune-in on 680 CJOB in Winnipeg and TSN 690 in Montreal.
https://3downnation.com/2025/08/20/official-montreal-alouettes-to-start-qb-james-morgan-against-blue-bombers/
As of this moment, even with all the struggles we've been through, we are still very much in control of our own destiny.
If we win tomorrow, we have the opportunity to win both games against Sask and either tie them for first or be with 1 game, with still another game to play against them later in the year.
If we lose tomorrow, then we are facing the prospect of needing to "hope" for things to happen in order for us to finish first. It begins the process of losing control over our own destiny.
We really need this win. It's not the biggest game of the season. It certainly shouldn't be the most challenging. But it's a box that needs to be checked if we want to put ourselves in a position to win that home Grey Cup.
Quote from: Jesse on August 20, 2025, 05:24:47 PMAs of this moment, even with all the struggles we've been through, we are still very much in control of our own destiny.
If we win tomorrow, we have the opportunity to win both games against Sask and either tie them for first or be with 1 game, with still another game to play against them later in the year.
If we lose tomorrow, then we are facing the prospect of needing to "hope" for things to happen in order for us to finish first. It begins the process of losing control over our own destiny.
We really need this win. It's not the biggest game of the season. It certainly shouldn't be the most challenging. But it's a box that needs to be checked if we want to put ourselves in a position to win that home Grey Cup.
every game is huge - the 3 against sask will be a big determining factor. Win out and have some of the west teams do a little skid and first place is possible.
Top 3 QB's on the 6 game? Ouch. Poor AC
Shea Patterson picked up behind Daisy.
Morgan did not look terrible, and getting first snaps this week can only help.
We need to "Longest Yard" Lemon. Let him through and hit him with the groin shot pass.
Not surprised Jon Jones is out. Just didn't do enough the last 2 games.
Smith having an excellent year on teams.
Excited to final see Logan in the line up.
Three Canadian DTs?
OL will have there hands full with Montreal's DL.
Quote from: RebusRankin on August 20, 2025, 02:56:27 PMWhat's your evidence that Weitz is good on teams?
Blue In BC says so and I trust him
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 20, 2025, 03:57:08 PMI guess Schmeck showed he was the next DT up over Kornelson but with Jake nearing the end I can't believe they released him. Maybe he didn't show a good work ethic or maybe he requested his release?
I'm pretty glad we're not relying on a back of the PR player to be a replacement starter for us.
No offence to Korny and congrats on the career. Most never make it this far. But at a certain point, players hit their ceiling and, for most, it isn't good enough to make professional football team. Good luck in your future endeavors.
Quote from: gobombersgo on August 20, 2025, 06:27:08 PM
Friesen couldn't think of more awkward questions if he tried, the sound of his voice make me cringe!
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 20, 2025, 03:57:08 PMI guess Schmeck showed he was the next DT up over Kornelson but with Jake nearing the end I can't believe they released him. Maybe he didn't show a good work ethic or maybe he requested his release?
Can't ever understand why they keep bringing Weitz back but I suppose Mike Miller takes his ST roster very seriously and requests certain moves be made to achieve that aim and MOS complies.
Kornelson is a numbers game
Weitz is good on teams
Thomas had a monster game and is a good depth guy
Yes ST is important
Quote from: Pete on August 20, 2025, 02:09:41 PMI dont see us getting a comfortable margin ,mtrls front 7 is too good, and , Zac hasnt been great under pressure ty
Also for some reason as soon as we get a lead we go very conservative, letting the other team drive the field with underneath stuff. Hopefully we learned something the last two games with blown leads
I also have the feeling that Zac will be in full game management mode. The one thing we dont want to do is let mtrl's d best us (again) with turnovers
Zach will be slinging and taking advantage of there secondary
Yes he needs protection, if he gets that and our run game is good, we win
Turnovers key as well, agree
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Quote from: gobombersgo on August 20, 2025, 05:02:08 PMOfficial: Montreal Alouettes to start QB James Morgan against Blue Bombers
By 3Down Staff -August 20, 2025
The Montreal Alouettes will start James Morgan at quarterback against the Winnipeg Blue Bombers on Thursday night.
The 28-year-old native of Green Bay, Wis. played three quarters against the B.C. Lions last week in relief of Caleb Evans, who is out for the season after suffering a torn ACL. He completed 20-of-33 pass attempts for 211 yards, one touchdown, and one interception as his team lost 36-18.
The six-foot-four, 229-pound passer was originally a fourth-round pick in the 2020 NFL Draft by the New York Jets out of Florida International University. He spent time with five different NFL teams and the Pittsburgh Maulers of the USFL before signing with the Alouettes last year, spending most of the season on the practice roster.
Shea Patterson, who signed with the Alouettes earlier this week, will dress as the third-stringer behind Morgan and Cameron Dukes. Montreal's top three quarterbacks — Davis Alexander, McLeod Bethel-Thompson, and Evans — are all on the six-game injured list.
The Alouettes have made two other changes to the roster as Canadian running back Sean Thomas-Erlington (neck) and field-side cornerbacker Kabion Ento (calf) have returned to the lineup. Thomas-Erlington has dressed for nine games on the year and rushed for 361 yards and two touchdowns, while Ento has played seven, recording 21 defensive tackles and three interceptions.
Canadian fullback David Dallaire and defensive back Robert Kennedy III have both been moved to the one-game injured list. With Ento returning, veteran defensive back Ciante Evans has been moved to field-side halfback in Kennedy's place.
Some key players who remain out for the Alouettes due to injury include receivers Austin Mack and Tyson Philpot, offensive lineman Justin Lawrence, defensive lineman Mustafa Johnson, defensive backs Dionte Ruffin and Marc-Antoine Dequoy, and returner James Letcher Jr.
The Montreal Alouettes (5-5) will host the Winnipeg Blue Bombers (5-4) at Percival Molson Stadium on Thursday, August 21 with kickoff slated for 7:30 p.m. EDT. The Blue Bombers are coming off a walk-off win over the Ottawa Redblacks, while Montreal lost 36-18 on the road to the B.C. Lions.
The weather forecast in Montreal calls for a high of 27 degrees with a mix of sun and cloud. The game will be broadcast on TSN and RDS in Canada, CBS Sports Network in the United States, and CFL+ internationally. Radio listeners can tune-in on 680 CJOB in Winnipeg and TSN 690 in Montreal.
https://3downnation.com/2025/08/20/official-montreal-alouettes-to-start-qb-james-morgan-against-blue-bombers/
I don't remember Morgan throwing one pass longer than 20 yards.I would play their receivers close because I don't see them going deep.
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 20, 2025, 07:11:53 PMBlue In BC says so and I trust him
I don't remember Weitz taking any reps on defence. Essentially he gets on the roster to play ST's and even then it's when we run out of Canadian ST players. Due to injuries to Hallett and Novak we ran out of those options.
Ayers, J. Jones and all the Canadian draft choices are the depth at every LB position. That's why I said, I'd cut Weitz out right but there is no upside for him playing steady. He may not be a bad ST player but that's the role for 1/3 of our roster and back up Canadians and some imports as well.
I wonder if Munier-Bailey can play on ST's if needed. A 2 @ pick in the draft with a reported high upside as a defensive player. When and how does he ever get on the roster?
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 20, 2025, 10:27:21 PMI don't remember Weitz taking any reps on defence. Essentially he gets on the roster to play ST's and even then it's when we run out of Canadian ST players. Due to injuries to Hallett and Novak we ran out of those options.
Ayers, J. Jones and all the Canadian draft choices are the depth at every LB position. That's why I said, I'd cut Weitz out right but there is no upside for him playing steady. He may not be a bad ST player but that's the role for 1/3 of our roster and back up Canadians and some imports as well.
I wonder if Munier-Bailey can play on ST's if needed. A 2 @ pick in the draft with a reported high upside as a defensive player. When and how does he ever get on the roster?
Weitz has not been good on teams. 9 games. 1 ST. I am waiting for Bailey to get his chance. Good size and moves very well. He has some quickness.
Quote from: Pigskin on August 20, 2025, 10:57:07 PMWeitz has not been good on teams. 9 games. 1 ST. I am waiting for Bailey to get his chance. Good size and moves very well. He has some quickness.
I believe Blue In BC said he was playing well on teams
Stats don't always paint the complete picture
He was added to play teams so I'm sure the Bombers like what they see
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 20, 2025, 07:22:24 PMFriesen couldn't think of more awkward questions if he tried, the sound of his voice make me cringe!
Friesen should retire already, honestly I wouldn't want to be interviewed by him or the screaming kids in the background
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 20, 2025, 07:22:24 PMFriesen couldn't think of more awkward questions if he tried, the sound of his voice make me cringe!
Okay I finally watched this. I assume it is PF at the beginning with questions, then at about 2:50 or 3:00, and then the last question.
I couldn't agree more - I physically cringed hearing some of those questions. Logan handled them with class all the way through. I don't know if it was Ed Tait (I did hear him asking good questions) saying that he sounds like a bomber, but that was true. He's clearly a team player, at least talks like one, and he showed no selfishness or "me" attitude, despite PF doing his best to pry it out of him.
Quote from: theaardvark on August 20, 2025, 05:57:19 PMWe need to "Longest Yard" Lemon. Let him through and hit him with the groin shot pass.
Just setup a CFL gambling kiosk near the LoS and Lemon will naturally gravitate towards it, leaving a big hole for Brady to plow through.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 20, 2025, 04:02:02 PMWe lost Novak earlier and now Hallett that both played well on ST's.
Out of all those guys Hallett is a guaranteed AR dress once he's healthy again. What on earth does "eye" mean on the IR report? Whatever it is, bet he's back real soon.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 20, 2025, 03:07:20 PMWhy did they move Peterson to the PR? Is the theory that Logan becomes the back up RB even though it creates a ratio problem when he goes on offence for a few plays? Essentially moving Peterson created a roster spot for Weitz.
Chance of Brady injury is very low. Logan as backup is no different than when Cooley was, or McCrae back when.
It's a good use of roster, and we did find a way to get both returners dressed. It'll be really fun returns, which will probably be fielded by both guys.
As for ratio, no problem. Corcoran can replace an IMP (many underperformers to choose from), or we can go jumbo (+1 or +2) a heck of a lot, which we like anyhow.
Quote from: Ridermania on August 20, 2025, 02:59:17 PMHonestly, no reason that the Bombers lose this game.
Montreal is a mess right now.
Well, they are slightly less of a mess with Ento back. Strong side no longer a freebie. If I'm Hogan, I'm throwing boundary all night. Oh ya, and that FS is weak too. Maybe avoid Sutton a bit. Lots of post routes against their weaker HBs and FS.
I really wish Ento had been IR'd for 1 more week, but c'est la vie. Never forget what he did to us in the GC (lookin' at you, Zach!)...
Quote from: LXTSN on August 20, 2025, 02:54:41 PMWhen Houston is ready, who comes off the roster now? Vaval, Cam Allen or Ayers?
Ayers, unless we have another answer at FS by then.
That said, I can easily see us dressing only one of Vaval/Logan as each opponent dictates. Sometimes the extra DB will make sense, sometimes the extra RB/REC option. Sometimes (like this week) both.
It will also be important to see who "wins" as the strongest CB: Vaval or Lawson. If it's Vaval, then Lawson may be PR or cut when Houston returns (esp when Parker comes back too).
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 20, 2025, 02:00:11 PMThomas, Schmekel and Lawson all in means we can rotate an all Canadian interior if we want. Particularly on passing downs probably.
Except our goal is usually the opposite: all IMP DL. :D :D
Plus, besides Fatboi, only 1 other NAT starter on D (Kramdi). No sense fielding more NATs than we have to per snap.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on Today at 02:05:29 AMChance of Brady injury is very low. Logan as backup is no different than when Cooley was, or McCrae back when.
It's a good use of roster, and we did find a way to get both returners dressed. It'll be really fun returns, which will probably be fielded by both guys.
As for ratio, no problem. Corcoran can replace an IMP (many underperformers to choose from), or we can go jumbo (+1 or +2) a heck of a lot, which we like anyhow.
This alone is a good reason to watch - not that anyone needed another reason.
I sure hope they do this, at least for some ST plays.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on Today at 02:02:53 AMOut of all those guys Hallett is a guaranteed AR dress once he's healthy again. What on earth does "eye" mean on the IR report? Whatever it is, bet he's back real soon.
Finger in the eye maybe or rubber pellets from the turf?
Quote from: Pigskin on August 20, 2025, 10:57:07 PMWeitz has not been good on teams. 9 games. 1 ST. I am waiting for Bailey to get his chance. Good size and moves very well. He has some quickness.
Well the stats don't always tell the entire picture. However, if he's not good on ST's what the heck is he doing on the AR? I have noticed him at times on coverage teams a few times. He isn't getting any defensive reps so I've mentioned / questioned why they keep him around.
I'd like to see Bailey as well Lots of hype trading to get him at # 2 pick this year. If you have to add a 2nd global I'd think he has more value??
Quote from: TecnoGenius on Today at 02:05:29 AMChance of Brady injury is very low. Logan as backup is no different than when Cooley was, or McCrae back when.
It's a good use of roster, and we did find a way to get both returners dressed. It'll be really fun returns, which will probably be fielded by both guys.
As for ratio, no problem. Corcoran can replace an IMP (many underperformers to choose from), or we can go jumbo (+1 or +2) a heck of a lot, which we like anyhow.
Actually Logan is probably not listed as a DI? Castillo, Ayers, Person and Griffin are probably the DI's. We're starting more than 7 Canadians so we have at least 1 import that is just an extra.
In regard to Peterson, we traded to get him and he showed well in pr season and a couple of games. As a Canadian he might be part of a succession plan or long time injury replacement for Brady if that happens.
Logan will be ok for an in game injury or alternate receiver and trick plays, but I can't imagine he'd be the primary RB.
Quote from: Blue In BC on Today at 02:28:05 AMFinger in the eye maybe or rubber pellets from the turf?
For 2 whole weeks? Weird
Quote from: Blue In BC on Today at 02:35:04 AMIn regard to Peterson, we traded to get him and he showed well in pr season and a couple of games. As a Canadian he might be part of a succession plan or long time injury replacement for Brady if that happens.
Peterson is Johnny 27. That's basically it. He will be used precisely as Johnny was. Which means 99% he's dressed as Brady in-game injury replacement. And he'd be a short/mid-term inter-game replacement if Brady is IR.
I doubt he becomes the next Brady. He seems more like a Johnny. But I could be wrong... I used to think no way Brady becomes the next Andrew!
Quote from: Blue In BC on Today at 02:35:04 AMLogan will be ok for an in game injury or alternate receiver and trick plays, but I can't imagine he'd be the primary RB.
No way Logan is primary RB unless Brady gets hurt. Brady almost never gets spelled. We never do the much-called-for 2 RB set. So that leaves Logan to maybe take the odd SB snap? However, if Logan>Mitchell as REC, we have a major roster problem...
Quote from: Blue In BC on Today at 02:28:05 AMFinger in the eye maybe or rubber pellets from the turf?
Who was it that had an eye IR?
My best guess is a finger in the eye - I remember some commentary from retired players years ago saying that was a common thing, getting hit with fingers in the eye intentionally by the opposing player in an attempt to injure and take out of the game. I honestly can't remember if it was linemen saying that, but it was a common experience and might still be a factor.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on Today at 02:59:13 AMPeterson is Johnny 27. That's basically it. He will be used precisely as Johnny was. Which means 99% he's dressed as Brady in-game injury replacement. And he'd be a short/mid-term inter-game replacement if Brady is IR.
I doubt he becomes the next Brady. He seems more like a Johnny. But I could be wrong... I used to think no way Brady becomes the next Andrew!
No way Logan is primary RB unless Brady gets hurt. Brady almost never gets spelled. We never do the much-called-for 2 RB set. So that leaves Logan to maybe take the odd SB snap? However, if Logan>Mitchell as REC, we have a major roster problem...
This is exactly what I always thought as well.
And it would be a luxury if Logan>Mitchell as REC - I don't mind having roster problems when players are shining and we have to figure out how to get them on the AR.
Quote from: Big Daddy on Today at 03:02:33 AMWho was it that had an eye IR?
Hallett The Remaining has been listed on the post-practice injury report has head/eye all week. It's not something you usually see. Usually you flush it out, give it a couple of days and forget about it.
Yes, nasty players wanting to injure would love the eye-pokes. Harder to do on ST, though! (one would think)
Quote from: TecnoGenius on Today at 02:59:13 AMPeterson is Johnny 27. That's basically it. He will be used precisely as Johnny was. Which means 99% he's dressed as Brady in-game injury replacement. And he'd be a short/mid-term inter-game replacement if Brady is IR.
I doubt he becomes the next Brady. He seems more like a Johnny. But I could be wrong... I used to think no way Brady becomes the next Andrew!
No way Logan is primary RB unless Brady gets hurt. Brady almost never gets spelled. We never do the much-called-for 2 RB set. So that leaves Logan to maybe take the odd SB snap? However, if Logan>Mitchell as REC, we have a major roster problem...
God I sure hope not, I expect better out of Hogan and more out of Peterson. Imagine dedicating your life to training for football only to be ****-blocked by a coach who won't allow you to play.
I think the way Johnny has been treated and mostly ignored by coaches is based on his meeker personality. If Petersen sees this happening he should head out the door as soon as the opportunity presents itself.
Logan is here primarily as a returner, he may get a few sweeps thrown his way but he's unlikely to sub in as primary RB even if Brady gets injured.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on Today at 03:26:45 AMLogan is here primarily as a returner, he may get a few sweeps thrown his way but he's unlikely to sub in as primary RB even if Brady gets injured.
Well, intra-game he certainly would sub in a primary RB if Brady got hurt! Because there's nobody else...
And no reason Logan can't be used for the odd O set just like Grant was. If anything, Logan was shown to be
more of an O asset than Grant ever was. Heck, maybe he'll become a Speedy B primary-O guy eventually, who knows.
Keys to the game for us:
1 Win the turnover battle,
2 Protect Collaros, 6 man fronts, misdirection, and have Zac rollout more
Do those two things and we win
Quote from: TecnoGenius on Today at 03:52:59 AMWell, intra-game he certainly would sub in a primary RB if Brady got hurt! Because there's nobody else...
And no reason Logan can't be used for the odd O set just like Grant was. If anything, Logan was shown to be more of an O asset than Grant ever was. Heck, maybe he'll become a Speedy B primary-O guy eventually, who knows.
I think posters are underestimating the impact Logan can have. In Calgary he was used as a great change of pace to Mills. He is also a very elusive reciever out of the backfield. It may take a game or two but that is why we were excited to sign him
I want to see our SY go 100% on 3rd, and be able to make 1.33+ every sneak. Surely they don't just sit there all week without coming up with new plans, and practice to hone their craft. I don't mind if Strev missed one this season as long as he goes 99.9% the rest of the way.
It would also be nice to get more than our customary 0 points in the 3rd. Surely we can scheme a stop on D (for some reason we never get the ball to start the 3rd). Surely we can do better than 2 & out when we get the ball.
These are all known issues. No excuse to repeat the errors every game ad nauseam.
I want to see a few INTs by our DBs. We should be able to pick on the new QB. Play the usual tricks. Bait & goad. Harass and force. Get that QB so confused it gets Maas' ears extra red and he goes nuts throwing everyone's headset.
I'll be pretty quiet on the GDT for this one. Doing the rare party-watch at my buddy's. You guys make a lot of chatter! I'll need stuff to read when I get home for the rewatch. The rule should be we need at least as many posts as the Riderforum has for our game!!
Just win a road game, please!
Quote from: TecnoGenius on Today at 02:59:13 AMPeterson is Johnny 27. That's basically it. He will be used precisely as Johnny was. Which means 99% he's dressed as Brady in-game injury replacement. And he'd be a short/mid-term inter-game replacement if Brady is IR.
I doubt he becomes the next Brady. He seems more like a Johnny. But I could be wrong... I used to think no way Brady becomes the next Andrew!
No way Logan is primary RB unless Brady gets hurt. Brady almost never gets spelled. We never do the much-called-for 2 RB set. So that leaves Logan to maybe take the odd SB snap? However, if Logan>Mitchell as REC, we have a major roster problem...
It's a little early to know how Peterson will develop. I'm just saying he's a favorable ratio option in game or longer term if Oliveria is hurt and misses a few games. That has already happened in 2025.
I don't think they'd use Logan as the primary if BO misses a game and we've already released Cooley.
We're essentially in agreement.
Two consecutive games with early lead, and collapse.
Maas/ Calvillo v. Younger, Hogan v. Thorpe.
I think we need some improvements in coaching to win this game.
Quote from: markf on Today at 02:54:00 PMTwo consecutive games with early lead, and collapse.
Maas/ Calvillo v. Younger, Hogan v. Thorpe.
I think we need some improvements in coaching to win this game.
If the Als weren't missing so many starters I'd agree. Just the fact they are starting their # 4 QB is going to be a huge issue. Add missing Philpot and Mack on offence and they should struggle. Defensively they are missing starters as well.
The advantage they do have is that we don't seem to play well in Montreal. Road games have been more difficult for the Bombers by in large.
If they can't figure out how to play 60 minutes, that's another issue.
Quote from: Blue In BC on Today at 03:20:35 PMIf the Als weren't missing so many starters I'd agree. Just the fact they are starting their # 4 QB is going to be a huge issue. Add missing Philpot and Mack on offence and they should struggle. Defensively they are missing starters as well.
The advantage they do have is that we don't seem to play well in Montreal. Road games have been more difficult for the Bombers by in large.
If they can't figure out how to play 60 minutes, that's another issue.
My major concern is that the Bomber History regarding rookie opposing QB's is not good. We tend to make rookie QB's look like Allstars when they first appear. And if the Als QB is fleet afoot we are in for even more trouble.
Quote from: Pete on Today at 04:19:14 AMKeys to the game for us:
1 Win the turnover battle,
2 Protect Collaros, 6 man fronts, misdirection, and have Zac rollout more
Do those two things and we win
And give Brady the ball. Especially in the 2nd half.
Unless he's constantly stuffed. Hard to win in that scenario. Probably then will need a couple more Sergio bombs to win another squeaker.
Montreal is banged up bad.
1-Game Injured List
24 DEQUOY, Marc-Antoine DB N 6'1 195
48 ENTO, Kabion DB A 6'1 190
54 LAWRENCE, Justin OL N 6'0 305
89 LETCHER JR, James WR A 5'7 180
81 MACK, Austin WR A 6'1 208
6 PHILPOT, Tyson WR N 5'11 190
6-Game Injured List
10 ALEXANDER, Davis QB A 5'11 210
23 BEAUCHEMIN, Nate DB N 6'1 204
94 JOHNSON, Mustafa DL A 6'0 285
49 LESSARD, Gabriel LB N 6'2 233
83 OLADEJO, Daniel WR N 6'0 185
22 RUFFIN, Dionte DB A 5'9 177
Not including Evans out for the season...
This is the classic trap game, where we tend to play down to the level of our opponents.
MOS and crew need to come out hard and fast and keep the foot on their neck, drop a 50 burger on them without mercy.
Quote from: Blue In BC on Today at 03:20:35 PMIf the Als weren't missing so many starters I'd agree. Just the fact they are starting their # 4 QB is going to be a huge issue. Add missing Philpot and Mack on offence and they should struggle. Defensively they are missing starters as well.
The advantage they do have is that we don't seem to play well in Montreal. Road games have been more difficult for the Bombers by in large.
If they can't figure out how to play 60 minutes, that's another issue.
Maybe #4 QB but Morgan is 28 and in his second full season with the team, he's also been through the NFL ringer with 6 different teams, so he has both potential and variable experience. Reminds me a bit of MBT in his build, play style and the path he took to get to the CFL. Both Shea Patterson and Cam Dukes are on the roster tonight, if Morgan fails to keep them in the game Maas won't hesitate to switch as the Als are just as desperate to get their next win as the Bombers.
Quote from: theaardvark on Today at 04:37:18 PMMontreal is banged up bad.
1-Game Injured List
24 DEQUOY, Marc-Antoine DB N 6'1 195
48 ENTO, Kabion DB A 6'1 190
54 LAWRENCE, Justin OL N 6'0 305
89 LETCHER JR, James WR A 5'7 180
81 MACK, Austin WR A 6'1 208
6 PHILPOT, Tyson WR N 5'11 190
6-Game Injured List
10 ALEXANDER, Davis QB A 5'11 210
23 BEAUCHEMIN, Nate DB N 6'1 204
94 JOHNSON, Mustafa DL A 6'0 285
49 LESSARD, Gabriel LB N 6'2 233
83 OLADEJO, Daniel WR N 6'0 185
22 RUFFIN, Dionte DB A 5'9 177
Not including Evans out for the season...
This is the classic trap game, where we tend to play down to the level of our opponents.
MOS and crew need to come out hard and fast and keep the foot on their neck, drop a 50 burger on them without mercy.
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Dream scenario...absolute annihilation on offence, defence and special teams. 4TD's on offence, 1 on Defence and 1 by Special teams.
Sign me up...MOS won't run the score up on his buddy.
Quote from: The Zipp on Today at 04:40:58 PM[/b]
Dream scenario...absolute annihilation on offence, defence and special teams. 4TD's on offence, 1 on Defence and 1 by Special teams.
Sign me up...MOS won't run the score up on his buddy.
Who's his buddy?
And we've dropped 50-burgers on teams multiple times under MOS. We obviously do it if we can.
This game shouldn't be a close battle. I'll be disappointed it we don't win easily considering their injuries.
Quote from: Blue In BC on Today at 04:58:15 PMThis game shouldn't be a close battle. I'll be disappointed it we don't win easily considering their injuries.
the thing is mtrls front 7 won't give Zac time to go long which means we'll have to work our way up the field, short passes runs etc, which takes time.
Add in our defense which operates on a bend dont break method, and its hard to run away with a game. Unfortunately this d helps a young qb as they can throw the quick easy paases
Quote from: Pete on Today at 05:04:09 PMthe thing is mtrls front 7 won't give Zac time to go long which means we'll have to work our way up the field, short passes runs etc, which takes time.
Add in our defense which operates on a bend dont break method, and its hard to run away with a game. Unfortunately this d helps a young qb as they can throw the quick easy paases
We don't go deep very often and don't have the receivers to do that well. I expect massive pressure on Morgan to be the difference maker. I expect the Bombers to win TOP and field position with everything considered.
Our defence should be using more bump and run on their receivers to screw up the timing. I wouldn't suggest that if Mack and Philpot were playing.
Quote from: Pete on Today at 05:04:09 PMthe thing is mtrls front 7 won't give Zac time to go long which means we'll have to work our way up the field, short passes runs etc, which takes time.
Add in our defense which operates on a bend dont break method, and its hard to run away with a game. Unfortunately this d helps a young qb as they can throw the quick easy paases
The Als are also allowing like 30 points/game over the last three weeks.
Quote from: Jesse on Today at 04:45:18 PMWho's his buddy?
And we've dropped 50-burgers on teams multiple times under MOS. We obviously do it if we can.
him and Maas are friends...we will score 50 if it happens on turnovers or ST but MOS generally will put the offense into idle mode if ahead by a lot.
Quote from: The Zipp on Today at 06:11:27 PMhim and Maas are friends...we will score 50 if it happens on turnovers or ST but MOS generally will put the offense into idle mode if ahead by a lot.
This offence has to progress beyond the deadzone of multiple 2 and outs they've been stuck in the past 2 games.
Not sure there's really a 'trap' game for a team that's 5-4 but I agree it's one we should win.