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Title: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Pigskin on August 15, 2025, 06:28:47 PM
Depending who is at QB for Montreal this could be a very tough game. The Bombers will have to play a full 60 minutes. Bombers should get a couple of practices in this week. Montreal will be working on a very short week. 
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: RebusRankin on August 15, 2025, 07:06:45 PM
Evans or Dukes at QB for the Als.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Blueforlife on August 15, 2025, 07:44:50 PM
I think it will be Evans. We should be able to beat them but they are pretty good.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: dd on August 15, 2025, 10:01:20 PM
Evans or Dukes is a non issue at Qb, they both suck.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Waffler on August 16, 2025, 01:08:51 AM
We've been beaten by bad QB's before and their D is good enough to win the odd game for them. Just take it seriously, it's not easy to win in Montreal.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 16, 2025, 03:14:19 AM
Evans is the king of short pass / timing routes.  This will be great practice for us as T.Harris/SSK is exactly the same (but Trevor can throw deep too).

I want to see us finding ways to block lanes, get pressure, and go batdown crazy.  It'll help us the next 3 weeks in a row.

MTL DB corps is complete hot garbage right now.  Ento and Dequoy were the secret sauce.  Picture us without Holm/Nichols.  Ya, we'd be doomed.  That's MTL right now.

An extremely winnable game.  If we make every little extra play like we did last night, we win.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: kkc60 on August 16, 2025, 04:08:57 PM
there is no team right now that I can confidently think we will beat, but I think we definitely could and should win this one. To be fair, last time I said that was before the Stampede bowl. We all saw how that went.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Jesse on August 16, 2025, 04:38:37 PM
Quote from: kkc60 on August 16, 2025, 04:08:57 PMthere is no team right now that I can confidently think we will beat, but I think we definitely could and should win this one. To be fair, last time I said that was before the Stampede bowl. We all saw how that went.

Every team has their warts. I don't really see too many complete teams that look infallible right now.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: BBRT on August 16, 2025, 04:45:21 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 16, 2025, 03:14:19 AMEvans is the king of short pass / timing routes.  This will be great practice for us as T.Harris/SSK is exactly the same (but Trevor can throw deep too).

I want to see us finding ways to block lanes, get pressure, and go batdown crazy.  It'll help us the next 3 weeks in a row.

MTL DB corps is complete hot garbage right now.  Ento and Dequoy were the secret sauce.  Picture us without Holm/Nichols.  Ya, we'd be doomed.  That's MTL right now.

An extremely winnable game.  If we make every little extra play like we did last night, we win.

Montreal's DB corps may be hot garbage but ours is not much better. And the Als DL and LB group is very very good. Might be a winnable game for us but with our bad OC and related brain cramps we probably will make enough mental errors to lose.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: The Zipp on August 17, 2025, 12:03:39 AM
who knows who we will be facing at QB...
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Blue In BC on August 17, 2025, 12:28:32 AM
Looks like Evans will be for awhile. It's also a short week for them.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 17, 2025, 12:38:48 AM
Quote from: Jesse on August 16, 2025, 04:38:37 PMEvery team has their warts. I don't really see too many complete teams that look infallible right now.

Riders may be the exception, couldn't tolerate them laying a beating on the Bombers like they just administered to the Ti-Cats. If the Bombers can take the Banjo Bowl, my faith will be restored.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Jesse on August 17, 2025, 12:52:58 AM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 17, 2025, 12:38:48 AMRiders may be the exception, couldn't tolerate them laying a beating on the Bombers like they just administered to the Ti-Cats. If the Bombers can take the Banjo Bowl, my faith will be restored.

Meh. I'm still not impressed.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 17, 2025, 07:33:15 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 17, 2025, 12:28:32 AMLooks like Evans will be for awhile. It's also a short week for them.

We have a long week, MTL short.  MTL has too many injuries.  The new QB will do new QB things.  He has less dev than our Wilson!  We can feast on all the usual new-QB mistakes.  Should be a great game for WPG D.

The best part is it's not a "trap game", because when you've been sucking as much as we have, every game, no matter how bad the team, should be a struggle.  However, we're on a definite uptrend, with the OL and DBs doing much better vs a week ago.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 17, 2025, 07:35:13 AM
Quote from: BBRT on August 16, 2025, 04:45:21 PMMontreal's DB corps may be hot garbage but ours is not much better. And the Als DL and LB group is very very good.

Ours showed great improvement.  I think Allen is an instant success, and will dress from here on out, if not start.  Vaval is not a free bingo spot.  Lawson not a free bingo spot.  Everyone making some plays.

Keep improving, maybe get Parker back at CB, and our DB issues may disappear.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 17, 2025, 07:38:53 AM
Quote from: Jesse on August 17, 2025, 12:52:58 AMMeh. I'm still not impressed.

T.Harris/SSK dink & dunk is stoppable.  We've done it many times.  The key is ignore pressure/sacks unless Harris is going deep.  Instead, fill the lanes, jump the routes.

The toughest problem is the SSK DL.  If we protect Zach, we'll move the ball.  SSK DBs are not that good (sans Milligan, and maybe Sayles).  All they know is zone while the DL forces mistakes.  Take away the pressure and SSK is vulnerable to the mid/deep pass and wide out game.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Blue In BC on August 17, 2025, 01:56:39 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 17, 2025, 07:33:15 AMWe have a long week, MTL short.  MTL has too many injuries.  The new QB will do new QB things.  He has less dev than our Wilson!  We can feast on all the usual new-QB mistakes.  Should be a great game for WPG D.

The best part is it's not a "trap game", because when you've been sucking as much as we have, every game, no matter how bad the team, should be a struggle.  However, we're on a definite uptrend, with the OL and DBs doing much better vs a week ago.


Morgan is in his 2nd season with the Als so I don't know that he has less experience than Wilson. Whether he's better or worse we won't know until Wilson gets a chance to play.

It's still better for us than having to face Evans who is also a good runner and has more experience.

Many of the Als injuries to top players are on 1 game IR. We won't know for a few days when we see IR reports to see whether they might play or not.

If Parker returns for the Bombers ( doubtful IMO ) then we shake up the secondary again. I'd expect Vaval to be the returner and back up DB.

If Logan returns then Vaval might be the starting CB primarily.

Same questions every week about how the ratio gets managed and who is healthy.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Waffler on August 17, 2025, 02:27:21 PM
Morgan does not have much time to practice for us. One day maybe. We have film on him now. That's a lot of pressure on the guy. All in our favor. But we still have to get pressure on him and make him uncomfortable. Do things he will have trouble recognizing.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Blue In BC on August 17, 2025, 03:12:16 PM
Quote from: Waffler on August 17, 2025, 02:27:21 PMMorgan does not have much time to practice for us. One day maybe. We have film on him now. That's a lot of pressure on the guy. All in our favor. But we still have to get pressure on him and make him uncomfortable. Do things he will have trouble recognizing.

Exactly. We do have troubles with inexperienced QB's in the past. It's time we break that failure. Als are much better when their roster is healthy but at the moment they are in serious troubles. Bombers enter this game fairly healthy although replacing both CB's recently is still a work in progress.

I liked the addition and play of Allen against the Redblacks and obviously D. Brown is a more experience QB than Morgan.

We should be optimistic but we must learn to play for 60 minutes not 57 minutes. The 2nd half of games has not been our friend.

Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Jesse on August 17, 2025, 03:47:09 PM
Morgan looked pretty confident. I don't expect any less of a challenge than if it was MBT or Evans playing.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: bwiser on August 17, 2025, 03:50:24 PM
I noticed that Morgan never threw the ball down field further than 20 yards. I wouldn't worry too much about a deep threat.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 17, 2025, 04:22:43 PM
Quote from: bwiser on August 17, 2025, 03:50:24 PMI noticed that Morgan never threw the ball down field further than 20 yards. I wouldn't worry too much about a deep threat.

Doesn't look like a runner either, looks more like a pocket passer, kind of reminded me of Dolegala. Throws a nice ball and didn't make too many unforced errors, in this one game he already played more than Terry Wilson.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: The Zipp on August 17, 2025, 04:54:33 PM
it will be a tough game - they all are...if our offense continues to have long stretches of sputtering it will be a tough game.  we have lost to 4th stringers before.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: theaardvark on August 17, 2025, 05:46:27 PM
Morgan backed up by Daisy Dukes.  Wonder who they airlift in for spot 3...

I'm liking our chances, depending on how our secondary comes together next practice.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Pete on August 17, 2025, 07:43:14 PM
One thing that Dru Brown did against us that I feel would be very useful against Mtrl is that he got the team to the line very quickly on every play. This gave him a chance to read the defense prior to snap and make adjustments.
Mtrl does a lot of blitzes from various directions and actually does a good job disguising. but still with Zac seeming to take a bit of time in his reads this could help.
Also the sooner you get to the line the less time the defense has to set up
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: dd on August 17, 2025, 08:59:34 PM
Quote from: theaardvark on August 17, 2025, 05:46:27 PMMorgan backed up by Daisy Dukes.  Wonder who they airlift in for spot 3...

I'm liking our chances, depending on how our secondary comes together next practice.
I m thinking if we get Houston up to speed and Allen starting at safety, and Parker potentially coming back,  the secondary is the least of our worries.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: BBRT on August 17, 2025, 09:03:51 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 17, 2025, 07:38:53 AMT.Harris/SSK dink & dunk is stoppable.  We've done it many times.  The key is ignore pressure/sacks unless Harris is going deep.  Instead, fill the lanes, jump the routes.

The toughest problem is the SSK DL.  If we protect Zach, we'll move the ball.  SSK DBs are not that good (sans Milligan, and maybe Sayles).  All they know is zone while the DL forces mistakes.  Take away the pressure and SSK is vulnerable to the mid/deep pass and wide out game.


I completely disagree with you. Harris can go long if and when required. Far better arm that Zac. SSK DB's are better than what we have period. SSK OL is better and their DL is light years better. We will not be able to apply pressure on Harris and if we do his wideouts will beat our DB's everytime.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: The Zipp on August 17, 2025, 09:40:02 PM
hopefully it's just us fans looking ahead to Sask ...we can do it without impacting the game on thursday. 

hit harris and make him uncomfortable is how you beat him.  no pressure, no hits and can and will pick this defence apart. 

our offence also needs to sustain drives to keep him off the field.  winning in Regina will be very, very hard. 
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: dd on August 17, 2025, 11:15:52 PM
Quote from: BBRT on August 17, 2025, 09:03:51 PMI completely disagree with you. Harris can go long if and when required. Far better arm that Zac. SSK DB's are better than what we have period. SSK OL is better and their DL is light years better. We will not be able to apply pressure on Harris and if we do his wideouts will beat our DB's everytime.
Ya, Riders are the best in the west for a reason. Darn near impossible to beat them at home, especially during Labour Day. We will do good if we can hang with them in the LDC, I just don't think we're there yet, but getting pieces like Houston and Allen in place, and Adams back at DT, things are definitely shaping up defensively, offensively we'll need Schoen and Wilson back to beat the Riders
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Pete on August 18, 2025, 04:25:22 AM
Quote from: BBRT on August 17, 2025, 09:03:51 PMI completely disagree with you. Harris can go long if and when required. Far better arm that Zac. SSK DB's are better than what we have period. SSK OL is better and their DL is light years better. We will not be able to apply pressure on Harris and if we do his wideouts will beat our DB's everytime.
Someones been drinking the green koolaid
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 18, 2025, 06:52:29 AM
Quote from: BBRT on August 17, 2025, 09:03:51 PMI completely disagree with you. Harris can go long if and when required. Far better arm that Zac. SSK DB's are better than what we have period. SSK OL is better and their DL is light years better. We will not be able to apply pressure on Harris and if we do his wideouts will beat our DB's everytime.

Yes, but SSK & Trevor go long only to keep you honest and loosen up the short game.  Or when they get/see a bust.  They don't go long as general rule, as a normal every-down read option.

There's a reason Trevor has a top completion %.

How many deep shots the other day in non-garbage time?  One?  Hogan/Zach will take 4+ a game, even when it's not there.

They even said it in this last game.  Trevor is "TWIG", take what I'm given, or something like that.  That's why he takes the 6Y checkdown and 11Y wide out all game long.

The key is if we finally trick someone for once by making the "free wide out" appear to be open, but not.  Like CGY burned Zach on...

As for their OL, they seem to be playing better, and seem impenetrable, but they are a hodgepodge of injury replacements with like 5 OL on the IR.  How much really is just Trevor getting the ball out after just 1.5s?  No DL will dent an OL in that amount of time.

SSK also has a superb mix of run/pass.  Basically what our bread & butter used to be.  They stole it.  That's how you win GCs.

All of this (which is coaching/scheme) makes all of QB, OL, RB and RECs look better than they actually are.  So, disrupt their scheme!!  We should be able to... it's our scheme!  Our M.O.!
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 18, 2025, 06:54:35 AM
Quote from: Jesse on August 17, 2025, 03:47:09 PMMorgan looked pretty confident. I don't expect any less of a challenge than if it was MBT or Evans playing.

So did that guy CGY fielded when VAJ was hurt.  Morgan threw about as many balls straight into the turf as Brohm did in one of his starts here!

As of right now he's in over his head.  He'll make new-to-live-CFL mistakes.  Guaranteed.  Might be a great night for WPG D in fantasy!
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 18, 2025, 06:56:28 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 17, 2025, 03:12:16 PMExactly. We do have troubles with inexperienced QB's in the past. It's time we break that failure.

Yes, but almost always running QBs.  I can't remember the last time a pure pocket passer came off the bench and beat us.  I guess Dolegala in that one LDC?  Wasn't that game like 16-13 or something?  He didn't win, their D did.

We seem to require advance notice before we can magically beat a running QB.  That's why it was a bit worrying when Crum took over for Dru last game...
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: The Zipp on August 18, 2025, 12:57:56 PM
rumors on twitter have Shea Patterson heading to Montreal.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Pigskin on August 18, 2025, 02:16:11 PM
Boys are on the field today at 11:10. Will be interesting to see where everyone is lining up.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: The Zipp on August 18, 2025, 04:55:28 PM
Schoen is practicing
Houston is practicing
Logan is practicing
Cam Lawson is practicing
Dandy is practicing

all from various twitter reports
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 18, 2025, 05:17:33 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 18, 2025, 06:52:29 AMYes, but SSK & Trevor go long only to keep you honest and loosen up the short game.  Or when they get/see a bust.  They don't go long as general rule, as a normal every-down read option.

There's a reason Trevor has a top completion %.

How many deep shots the other day in non-garbage time?  One?  Hogan/Zach will take 4+ a game, even when it's not there.

They even said it in this last game.  Trevor is "TWIG", take what I'm given, or something like that.  That's why he takes the 6Y checkdown and 11Y wide out all game long.

The key is if we finally trick someone for once by making the "free wide out" appear to be open, but not.  Like CGY burned Zach on...

As for their OL, they seem to be playing better, and seem impenetrable, but they are a hodgepodge of injury replacements with like 5 OL on the IR.  How much really is just Trevor getting the ball out after just 1.5s?  No DL will dent an OL in that amount of time.

SSK also has a superb mix of run/pass.  Basically what our bread & butter used to be.  They stole it.  That's how you win GCs.

All of this (which is coaching/scheme) makes all of QB, OL, RB and RECs look better than they actually are.  So, disrupt their scheme!!  We should be able to... it's our scheme!  Our M.O.!


Big play for Harris are always those crossers, Sask. has a number of receivers that are good at picking up YAC and they're hard to defend against because the receiver catches the ball in full flight. LB's can't keep up and if the DB's don't know it's coming it's hard to get to the spot of reception on time.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Waffler on August 18, 2025, 05:37:53 PM
Quote from: The Zipp on August 18, 2025, 04:55:28 PMSchoen is practicing

all from various twitter reports

He's got the big brace on though. Maybe he'll need that the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Blue In BC on August 18, 2025, 06:29:20 PM
Quote from: The Zipp on August 18, 2025, 04:55:28 PMSchoen is practicing
Houston is practicing
Logan is practicing
Cam Lawson is practicing
Dandy is practicing

all from various twitter reports


Schoen won't come off the 6 game IR just yet but it's good he's back practising.

Any of Logan, Lawson and Houston could be added to the AR. That would require some ratio or adjustments to PR etc.

I doubt Dandy has any chance to be the AR this week or any time soon.

No mention of Vanterpool or Parker practising though?
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: gobombersgo on August 18, 2025, 06:49:14 PM
I see Logan and Lawson being added to the roster this week.

No changes at practice to the starting offence and defence.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Stats Junkie on August 18, 2025, 07:19:34 PM
Full posts from local media:

Ed Tait
Dalton Schoen is in full gear for the @wpg_BlueBombers this morning. We'll see how much he practices today.

Demerio Houston
wearing #9 for the @wpg_BlueBombers and Russell Dandy #37

Derek Taylor
First day of Bombers practice ahead of Thursday's game in Montreal:
RB Peyton Logan practicing for the first time since camp.
DT Cam Lawson back in after two weeks out.

REC Dalton Schoen is in uniform for warmup. Wearing a brace on that left knee.
He's gone five games on the six-game injured list. So he is allowed to return to practice without coming off the list,

FB Michael Chris-Ike not practicing today. A few weeks ago he took a single day off to rest a knee problem.

... and a partial post
John Hodge
I'm at practice here at Princess Auto Stadium...

Yes, there is more to this post but I thought I would poke fun at the fact that Hodge has to note that he was actually at a practice.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: gobombersgo on August 18, 2025, 07:36:17 PM
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: gobombersgo on August 18, 2025, 07:36:35 PM
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: gobombersgo on August 18, 2025, 07:37:04 PM
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: gobombersgo on August 18, 2025, 07:37:27 PM
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Jesse on August 18, 2025, 08:01:18 PM
Quote from: gobombersgo on August 18, 2025, 07:37:04 PM

Well, that was awkward. He clearly did not want to answer any of those questions.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: ModAdmin on August 18, 2025, 08:02:49 PM
Injury Report on August 18 shows...

Nick Hallet, Head/Eye, Did Not Practice
Jamal Parker, Leg, Did Not Practice

Peyton Logan, Thigh, Full Practice
Dalton Schoen, Knee, Full Practice
Micah Vanterpool, Ankle, Full Practice
Cam Lawson, Hip, Full Practice
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: blue_gold_84 on August 18, 2025, 08:09:19 PM
Quote from: Jesse on August 18, 2025, 08:01:18 PMWell, that was awkward. He clearly did not want to answer any of those questions.

Beyond. I'd say he handled himself pretty well considering the nature of some of those questions.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Jesse on August 18, 2025, 08:15:53 PM
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on August 18, 2025, 08:09:19 PMBeyond. I'd say he handled himself pretty well considering the nature of some of those questions.

I thought the questions were soft balls, to be honest. And he still skirted them the best he could.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: BLUEBOMBER on August 18, 2025, 08:19:13 PM
The BB should be able to beat the Als next week but stranger things have happened before...
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: blue_gold_84 on August 18, 2025, 08:19:26 PM
Quote from: Jesse on August 18, 2025, 08:15:53 PMI thought the questions were soft balls, to be honest. And he still skirted them the best he could.

Really? That's a really touchy subject and some got pretty invasive the more he tried to skirt them.

Quote from: BLUEBOMBER on August 18, 2025, 08:19:13 PMThe BB should be able to beat the Als next week but stranger things have happened before...

They play the Als this week.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 18, 2025, 09:13:57 PM
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on August 18, 2025, 08:09:19 PMBeyond. I'd say he handled himself pretty well considering the nature of some of those questions.

Amazing how some reporters don't have any interest in attending football press conferences until something like this pops up.  Thought Houston and O'Shea handled it as well as they could but loved Younger's response.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Blue In BC on August 18, 2025, 09:47:17 PM
It appears that Hallett will miss this game after being listed as a " DNP ". Logical that we add Lawson back to the AR for depth on the DL as the best Canadian available? Alternatively they decide on the 2nd global Munier-Bailey?

No idea what they decide about Vanterpool or Logan who appear to be healthy now.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Jesse on August 18, 2025, 10:19:25 PM
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on August 18, 2025, 08:19:26 PMReally? That's a really touchy subject and some got pretty invasive the more he tried to skirt them.

I didn't fins them invasive at all. Seemed like they did all they could not to talk about it.

They didn't use the words "domestic violence". They didn't ask him what happened. He neither claimed guilt or innocence.

They asked him how he felt about being released. They asked him if he was surprised. They asked him if there were conditions about coming back. The only thing they pressed him on was if he had to do anything special to return to play, which he avoided answering as best as he could, but didn't press on why he was released in the first place.

It didn't answer any questions I have, to be honest.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Horseman on August 18, 2025, 10:20:19 PM
If we can't beat Mtl with their 4th string QB playing, then that says volumes about us.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Jesse on August 18, 2025, 10:24:05 PM
Quote from: Horseman on August 18, 2025, 10:20:19 PMIf we can't beat Mtl with their 4th string QB playing, then that says volumes about us.

It should be a decisive victory.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 18, 2025, 10:25:25 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 18, 2025, 09:47:17 PMIt appears that Hallett will miss this game after being listed as a " DNP ". Logical that we add Lawson back to the AR for depth on the DL as the best Canadian available? Alternatively they decide on the 2nd global Munier-Bailey?

No idea what they decide about Vanterpool or Logan who appear to be healthy now.

Hard to demote Schmeck after the game he had and I don't think they'd ever sit Jake. They've played the last few games with 3 DE's and 3 DT's which is too low, ideally they'd dress 4 of each.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on August 18, 2025, 10:37:44 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 18, 2025, 10:25:25 PMHard to demote Schmeck after the game he had and I don't think they'd ever sit Jake. They've played the last few games with 3 DE's and 3 DT's which is too low, ideally they'd dress 4 of each.

I'd dress Lawson and Schmekel over Jake Thomas.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Blue In BC on August 18, 2025, 10:44:00 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 18, 2025, 10:25:25 PMHard to demote Schmeck after the game he had and I don't think they'd ever sit Jake. They've played the last few games with 3 DE's and 3 DT's which is too low, ideally they'd dress 4 of each.

No need to demote Schmekel regardless of how the DT's rotate from a depth point of view. We don't have another Canadian DB to replace Hallett which means Cobb, Kornelson or the global choice are the other options.

Come to think about it, losing Hallett makes taking J. Jones out leaving ST's losing 2 players. That has an impact on the thought of adding Logan or Vanterpool.

That's another variable that I wasn't aware of this morning. That could force D. Lawson off the AR if Houston is added. Otherwise we lose Vaval as our returner.

OTOH I wouldn't bet that J. Jones doesn't get bumped anyway. I'm just not sure who'd replace him on ST's. We lost Novak earlier, now Hallett.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Blue In BC on August 18, 2025, 10:46:13 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 18, 2025, 10:37:44 PMI'd dress Lawson and Schmekal over Jake Thomas.

Sure but we're already losing Hallett, so no need to lose Thomas as well. Ironically Thomas may have had his best game of 2025.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Blueforlife on August 19, 2025, 02:02:17 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 18, 2025, 10:46:13 PMSure but we're already losing Hallett, so no need to lose Thomas as well. Ironically Thomas may have had his best game of 2025.
Yup Thomas can still play even after a small group hating on him for the last few seasons

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 18, 2025, 10:37:44 PMI'd dress Lawson and Schmekel over Jake Thomas.
Schmekel > Thomas = Lawson imo

Party in Selkirk!
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Blueforlife on August 19, 2025, 02:03:27 AM
City party
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 19, 2025, 04:47:59 AM
Quote from: Horseman on August 18, 2025, 10:20:19 PMIf we can't beat Mtl with their 4th string QB playing, then that says volumes about us.

And probably no Ento/Dequoy.  That D is major suckage against the pass without those 2.  Night and day.  Even if they get 1 of them back they are very beatable.  If I had my wish, keep Dequoy out: Ento you can just not throw to -- Dequoy is everywhere.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 19, 2025, 04:48:47 AM
Quote from: Stats Junkie on August 18, 2025, 07:19:34 PMDemerio Houston[/b] wearing #9 for the @wpg_BlueBombers and Russell Dandy #37

From memory, did Houston used to be #15 when here?
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 19, 2025, 04:50:30 AM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 18, 2025, 05:17:33 PMBig play for Harris are always those crossers, Sask. has a number of receivers that are good at picking up YAC

Then I want to see a few schemes where we leave 1-2 LBers roaming to run opposite those crossers at full speed for monga moment-of-catch blowups.  Do that once and all the RECs will be scared of the flat.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 19, 2025, 04:52:05 AM
Quote from: The Zipp on August 18, 2025, 12:57:56 PMrumors on twitter have Shea Patterson heading to Montreal.

It's a smart move.  Dude will win you some games once in a blue moon.  And he's better suited to the MTL O, which is more of a pocket team (even with Alexander's mobility).

How many teams for Patterson now?  4 more and he's the next Kevin Glenn?  Or am I thinking Dolegala...
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Pigskin on August 19, 2025, 11:15:05 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 19, 2025, 04:48:47 AMFrom memory, did Houston used to be #15 when here?


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Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Waffler on August 19, 2025, 12:39:15 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 19, 2025, 04:52:05 AMIt's a smart move.  Dude will win you some games once in a blue moon.  And he's better suited to the MTL O, which is more of a pocket team (even with Alexander's mobility).

How many teams for Patterson now?  4 more and he's the next Kevin Glenn?  Or am I thinking Dolegala...

Not sure about this. He was so bad here in TC he didn't last a week. Both him and Dolegala have 4 teams each unless I am mistaken.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: peg_city on August 19, 2025, 01:24:30 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 18, 2025, 10:37:44 PMI'd dress Lawson and Schmekel over Jake Thomas.

I think Thomas makes the play calls on the D-line. I always see him instruct the other players, which is probably why he's still on this team.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Pete on August 19, 2025, 02:44:39 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 19, 2025, 04:50:30 AMThen I want to see a few schemes where we leave 1-2 LBers roaming to run opposite those crossers at full speed for monga moment-of-catch blowups.  Do that once and all the RECs will be scared of the flat.

Dont know why Zac doesnt use the pump fake more, esp against a mtrl d that loves to jump play. Bc had some success with Quick hitters but Zac doesnt get the ball out nearly as quick and hard as Rourke
 We may have to rely more on bringing in added protection and going after their depleted secondary
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Jesse on August 19, 2025, 02:57:58 PM
Quote from: Pete on August 19, 2025, 02:44:39 PMDont know why Zac doesnt use the pump fake more, esp against a mtrl d that loves to jump play. Bc had some success with Quick hitters but Zac doesnt get the ball out nearly as quick and hard as Rourke
 We may have to rely more on bringing in added protection and going after their depleted secondary


Well, if you don't think he gets the ball out fast enough, I don't think taking another half second utilizing the pump fake will help.

I imagine it's a hard thing to add if it's something you've never used. Throw your timing and accuracy way off.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Blue In BC on August 19, 2025, 03:52:31 PM
Quote from: peg_city on August 19, 2025, 01:24:30 PMI think Thomas makes the play calls on the D-line. I always see him instruct the other players, which is probably why he's still on this team.

Could be but it's not uncommon for the MLB to do that. Veteran experience at each and every spot helps that happen.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: dd on August 19, 2025, 04:16:33 PM
I doubt any rotational player makes any calls as they aren't on the field half the time
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: blue_gold_84 on August 19, 2025, 04:21:52 PM
Quote from: dd on August 19, 2025, 04:16:33 PMI doubt any rotational player makes any calls as they aren't on the field half the time

But he could be responsible for them when he is on the field.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Blueforlife on August 19, 2025, 04:32:37 PM
Quote from: peg_city on August 19, 2025, 01:24:30 PMI think Thomas makes the play calls on the D-line. I always see him instruct the other players, which is probably why he's still on this team.
Thomas remains with the team for more reasons than that.  And I agree with others, he not the primary play caller but he knows the packages as well as others so he will be reminding guys of alignment, etc.  I'll be watching for him yapping now LOL.
1. Good depth veteran CDN
2. Never gets injured
3. Good against the run
4. Has power to push back the OL at times
5. Can sometimes attract a double team
6. Very consistent
7. Backup OL
8. Plays on jumbo
9. nickname is Fatboi which is awesome, I actually got mad at people for calling him that many years ago and then people told me that's his handle, a classic forum moment LOL
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: peg_city on August 19, 2025, 04:32:49 PM
I'm not saying Thomas is the D captain, but I'm pretty sure he's the Dline captain. Where to line up etc. Watch him next game (especially if you're at the stadium).
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 19, 2025, 04:34:27 PM
Quote from: Waffler on August 19, 2025, 12:39:15 PMNot sure about this. He was so bad here in TC he didn't last a week. Both him and Dolegala have 4 teams each unless I am mistaken.


Obviously not the case, they let Patterson go once they confirmed Strev was good to go with the knowledge Zach was suspended for the first game. I believe that happened the day before TC opened, which is pretty dam cruel when you think about it.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: peg_city on August 19, 2025, 05:51:05 PM
https://3downnation.com/2025/08/19/montreal-alouettes-qb-caleb-evans-suffers-torn-acl-out-for-season/

Evans done for the season.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Ridermania on August 19, 2025, 05:58:55 PM
Alouettes have announced that Caleb Evans has suffered a torn right ACL and is out for the rest of the season and they have signed Shea Patterson.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 19, 2025, 06:02:00 PM
Quote from: peg_city on August 19, 2025, 05:51:05 PMhttps://3downnation.com/2025/08/19/montreal-alouettes-qb-caleb-evans-suffers-torn-acl-out-for-season/

Evans done for the season.

Poor guy must be heartbreaking, finally gets his chance to start and injury strikes.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Stats Junkie on August 19, 2025, 07:33:01 PM
From Joey Alfieri TwiXter @joeyalfieri
Director, Content & Communicatios for the Alouettes

Davis Alexander, Tyson Philpot, James Letcher Jr and Mustafa Johnson all participating in practice today. We're at the indy period but that's already something.
Mack doing individual drills on sideline, too.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Waffler on August 19, 2025, 09:03:05 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 19, 2025, 04:34:27 PMObviously not the case, they let Patterson go once they confirmed Strev was good to go with the knowledge Zach was suspended for the first game. I believe that happened the day before TC opened, which is pretty dam cruel when you think about it.

He was cut Day 4 of Main Camp.

I saw him with my own eyes at camp. He did not play like a veteran. At the time I thought he and Chase were equal for #4. Honestly I expected more and I guess the Bombers did too although they said the right things in the press.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: gobombersgo on August 19, 2025, 09:05:05 PM
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 19, 2025, 09:07:15 PM
Injury Report, I suspect anyone listed as Questionable will not be making the trip to Mtl, limiting changes from last game.

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Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 19, 2025, 09:12:46 PM
Quote from: Waffler on August 19, 2025, 09:03:05 PMHe was cut Day 4 of Main Camp.

I saw him with my own eyes at camp. He did not play like a veteran. At the time I thought he and Chase were equal for #4. Honestly I expected more and I guess the Bombers did too although they said the right things in the press.

Thanks, that makes you right and me wrong.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 20, 2025, 07:27:33 AM
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 19, 2025, 04:32:37 PM9. nickname is Fatboi which is awesome, I actually got mad at people for calling him that many years ago and then people told me that's his handle, a classic forum moment LOL

I often scream "yay Fatboi" @ PAS.  I sometimes get strange looks.  Some people probably think I'm being insulting.  Maybe someone will call fan services on me.  :D  :D  :D

"But officer, it's his actual twitter handle! He wants to be called that!"
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 20, 2025, 07:28:29 AM
Quote from: dd on August 19, 2025, 04:16:33 PMI doubt any rotational player makes any calls as they aren't on the field half the time

He certainly is doing something!  MOS has stated point blank that the whole system relies no the vets to teach everything to the kids.  No better example than this.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 20, 2025, 07:30:12 AM
Quote from: Jesse on August 19, 2025, 02:57:58 PMI imagine it's a hard thing to add if it's something you've never used. Throw your timing and accuracy way off.

For sure.  It's probably why a really-selling-it-pumpfake will never be his thing.  Zach likes his little slight arm movement / pat the ball steamboats.  You can't mess with that kind fo timing.

But Zach should be able to easily add in look-offs.  More QBs doing that these last few weeks.  Stare field side the whole time then chuck it to the boundary.  Everyone has peripheral vision!  Really really affects the safety.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 20, 2025, 07:32:41 AM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 19, 2025, 06:02:00 PMPoor guy must be heartbreaking, finally gets his chance to start and injury strikes.

Caleb has finally gotten his chance many times before.  He has quite a few starts.  However, this will be the first one in a while.  I think he's a good backup & SY, and yes this sucks for him and is kind of a bummer.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Montreal
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 20, 2025, 07:34:57 AM
Quote from: Stats Junkie on August 19, 2025, 07:33:01 PMDavis Alexander, Tyson Philpot, James Letcher Jr and Mustafa Johnson all participating in practice today. We're at the indy period but that's already something.

Well, let's hope this is just a test-the-waters thing, or our should-win turns into a fight-like-heck-and-probably-lose.

I think MTL learned their lesson playing him too early last time.  Surely they won't blow their wad against a West team that doesn't mean much to them.  Save the big guns for HAM or something that matters.

P.S. Glad to see the other 2 big guns aren't practicing: Ento/Dequoy.  Those guys are game wreckers: yes, even more than Philpot!