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Quote from: dd on August 07, 2025, 10:05:02 PMBombers haven't and won't be hanging 50 on anyone, we don't have the horses to score 50.in fact calagary will win this game at home, 25-21

Quote from: Jesse on August 07, 2025, 10:16:05 PMYou are too used to the Bombers having the same roster and bursting out of the gate.

For most teams, you need time to gel and get everyone pulling in the same direction. It's gonna start coming together soon, you'll see.

Quote from: M.O.A.B. on August 07, 2025, 11:39:20 PMI think, Woods can still be added to AR. He came off the 6-game IR, I believe.

Quote from: The Zipp on August 08, 2025, 01:44:40 AMIN: QB Zach Collaros, WR Dillon Mitchell, DB Dexter Lawson, RB Matthew Peterson

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 08, 2025, 01:02:51 AMWhy would they move him to PR instead of directly to AR if that was the plan?

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 08, 2025, 03:33:10 AMWoe, guess he's not replacing Jake anytime soon, not as good as most thought?  Surprising move, maybe someone slapped their fingers about stacking the 1 game with non-injured players. If Lawson is iffy, they might have to dress Schmeck to back him up.

Quote from: Pete on August 08, 2025, 03:36:10 PMI think OShea plans at least one roster move every game to screw with us.
Last week it was case, this week its not putting woods in and adding smeckle

Quote from: Jesse on August 08, 2025, 11:29:18 AMWoods might be out of luck unless they take Ayers of the "DL". Person is showing too well to take him off now and they haven't stacked the DL in a while.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 08, 2025, 04:16:49 PMI was never certain that Woods was better than Adams but being healthy gives us injury insurance. However the larger question is whether he's better than any of our Canadian DT's and should be on the AR instead of Ayers.

It still seems a bit surprising that he ended up on the PR instead of the 1 game IR where we've hidden other players.

Regardless, we've shuffled the PR around a bit over the past couple of weeks. Some new faces and some departures.

I expect that to continue shortly as the NFL starts making some cuts and players become available.

Quote from: Jesse on August 08, 2025, 04:19:39 PMI'm not positive, but I thought Woods was on the roster ahead of Adams several times last season.

I definitely think it would be a better use of our roster to get Woods on ahead of Ayers, but we also see many 3 man fronts.

Quote from: Pete on August 08, 2025, 04:23:09 PMSpeaks to our depth that the best choice to put in to replace Lawson is Smeckle. (and not in a good way)

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 08, 2025, 03:34:26 PMLawson out is bad news for us although the one game list is hopeful. Mitchell better play hungry. Lofton back off is irrelevant as long as Bryant and Randolph stay healthy but we're playing with fire with Eli being the only backup offensive lineman. Like that Jonathan Jones stays on. Not sure what the fascination is with Ayers. He's shaping up to be this year's Navy Seal. I get he's tough and athletic but neither really matter much if he can't chip in somewhere on defense. Being tough and athletic on the sideline isn't helpful.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 08, 2025, 03:18:05 PMHmmmm. The good news is that Parker and Lawson only went to the 1 game IR. That may mean Parker isn't lost for the season and could be back in a shorter time frame. Lawson was " limited " so he should be back much sooner.

The bad news is that Lofton is back on the 6 game IR after only playing 1 game?

I don't get the sticking with weak interior DL when Woods was available. For that matter I'm surprised he was moved to PR. If he's not deemed very good, then find a new player for the PR depth.

That's a lot of roster movement over the past 2 weeks.  Some expected and some not. I have concern about our depth at DT but Person was getting a lot of reps last game and playing well and seemed to be used inside and outside.

We need to be able to get pressure on VAJ.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 08, 2025, 04:27:42 PMThe comparison for Ayers isn't accurate imo and I don't see any similarities here.  He is versatile player.  Shows a lot of promise imo. 

Woods will be valuable for us at some point imo.  He will get his turn and will be ready when he does.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 08, 2025, 04:44:20 PMAyers is a good ST player but we saw last week that J.Jones is also very good and is more probable to start at WIL than Ayers. In that sense Ayers is more expendable on defence whereas Woods might have been beneficial this week with Lawson out.

Check again after the game on whether our interior DL was able to contain their rushing game and collapse the pocket.

In fairness we don't know how the team perceives Woods,Schmekel or Kornelson. That said, Woods had 20 DT's in 17 games and Schmekel has 6 in 17 games.

Quote from: Pete on August 08, 2025, 05:16:25 PMAyers is very athletic, and we also have Shay and Smith, but we don't seem to want to play them on regular snaps. Ayers appears to be an upgrade on Cole but our penchant to not play young players unless we have to doesn't help development.
I'm gonna give the benefit of the doubt to the coaches on the Woods decision. Maybe he's just not yet in game shape

ps Tait mentions that Lofton is on the 6 game? Did anyone see an injiury.

Quote from: Pete on August 08, 2025, 05:16:25 PMAyers is very athletic, and we also have Shay and Smith, but we don't seem to want to play them on regular snaps. Ayers appears to be an upgrade on Cole but our penchant to not play young players unless we have to doesn't help development.
I'm gonna give the benefit of the doubt to the coaches on the Woods decision. Maybe he's just not yet in game shape

ps Tait mentions that Lofton is on the 6 game? Did anyone see an injiury.

Quote from: Pete on August 08, 2025, 05:16:25 PMAyers is very athletic, and we also have Shay and Smith, but we don't seem to want to play them on regular snaps. Ayers appears to be an upgrade on Cole but our penchant to not play young players unless we have to doesn't help development.
I'm gonna give the benefit of the doubt to the coaches on the Woods decision. Maybe he's just not yet in game shape

ps Tait mentions that Lofton is on the 6 game? Did anyone see an injiury.

Quote from: Jesse on August 08, 2025, 04:19:39 PMI'm not positive, but I thought Woods was on the roster ahead of Adams several times last season.

I definitely think it would be a better use of our roster to get Woods on ahead of Ayers, but we also see many 3 man fronts.

Quote from: gobombersgo on August 08, 2025, 04:43:11 PMOfficial: Vernon Adams Jr. returns for Calgary Stampeders to face Winnipeg
By 3Down Staff -August 8, 2025

The Calgary Stampeders will officially have Vernon Adams Jr. back in the starting lineup when the team hosts the Winnipeg Blue Bombers on Saturday night.

The 32-year-old passer missed Calgary's loss to the Redblacks last week due to a head injury he suffered the previous week against Montreal. The veteran has thrown for 1,913 yards, nine touchdowns, and six interceptions over seven games so far this season, posting a 5-2 record as a starter.

The five-foot-eleven, 190-pound target joined the Stampeders this offseason via trade from the B.C. Lions. He led the team to two wins over the Blue Bombers earlier this season, throwing for a combined five touchdowns and one interception in those outings.

The Stampeders may also have Canadian receiver Jalen Philpot back in the lineup, though he's listed as a game-time decision. The veteran target missed last week's game due to a hamstring injury and he had varied participation in practice this week as he was limited on day one, a non-participant on day two, and a full participant on day three.

Canadian receiver Clark Barnes will officially return to the lineup after missing a month due to an ankle injury. He scored a touchdown in his most recent game — a 37-16 win for Calgary over Winnipeg in the Stampede Bowl back in Week 5.

Breakout star defensive tackle Jaylon Hutchings is dealing with a calf injury and has been listed as a game-time decision. Canadian defensive back Jackson Sombach has returned to the lineup from a hamstring injury and will be the backup to starting safety Damon Webb.

Canadian defensive back Adrian Greene and Ben Labrosse remain out due to injury, which means Godfrey Onyeka will make a second-straight start at field-side cornerback.

The Calgary Stampeders (5-3) will host the Winnipeg Blue Bombers (4-3) on Saturday, August 9 with kickoff slated for 7:00 p.m. EDT. The Blue Bombers are coming off a close win over Toronto, while Calgary got crushed by the Redblacks 31-11.

The weather forecast in Calgary calls for a high of 21 degrees and a 60 percent chance of showers. The game will be broadcast on TSN in Canada, CBS Sports Network in the United States, and CFL+ internationally. Radio listeners can tune-in on 680 CJOB in Winnipeg and 770 CHQR in Calgary.

https://3downnation.com/2025/08/08/official-vernon-adams-jr-returns-for-calgary-stampeders-to-face-winnipeg/

Quote from: BBRT on August 08, 2025, 06:28:35 PMCalgary looks like they have their full team back. Bad news for the Big Blue as they will not be able to handle VA and the Calgary receiver sets will overwhelm the very small and not that good Bomber Secondary. The Stamps OL is solid and their DL is better than ours.

Quote from: BBRT on August 08, 2025, 06:28:35 PMCalgary looks like they have their full team back. Bad news for the Big Blue as they will not be able to handle VA and the Calgary receiver sets will overwhelm the very small and not that good Bomber Secondary. The Stamps OL is solid and their DL is better than ours.

Quote from: Jesse on August 08, 2025, 02:14:22 PMLofton added to the 6 game?!?

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 08, 2025, 05:59:53 PMSeems to be the case, MOS mentioned he is practising and making good progress.  From the same article also sounds like Randolph has won the RT job over Lofton, question is who gets Stanley's job when he's done Lofton or Vanterpool?

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 08, 2025, 08:53:29 PMUh, neither?  I've never seen Lofton @ LT, but I doubt he's great.  Vant/Ran suck at LT.  I still think it's FA big-$ time for our next LT in off-season.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 08, 2025, 09:16:04 PMReview your game film, Lofton played LT in place of Stan last week.

Quote from: BBRT on August 08, 2025, 06:28:35 PMCalgary looks like they have their full team back. Bad news for the Big Blue as they will not be able to handle VA and the Calgary receiver sets will overwhelm the very small and not that good Bomber Secondary. The Stamps OL is solid and their DL is better than ours.

Quote from: LXTSN on August 08, 2025, 06:28:05 PMI remember last season like this as well. I think Woods got the start when both were healthy.
Both of them are very talented. I think Adams is a little better pass rusher and Woods is relentless at attacking the run.

Quote from: Pete on August 09, 2025, 01:25:51 AMWalters/O'Shea have been in maintain mode since 2022, rather than trying to improve. You just have to look at our free agent signings to see that.
OShea in particular can be a bit egotistical in not adapting ie using designated import, keeping players that are on the down swing etc

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 09, 2025, 02:41:14 AMIt's an over generalization imo.  We have had lots of turnover over the years and one of our pillars of success is our depth and next man up.  I believe some are being over critical of our club, management, coaches and players.  We are a powerhouse near the end of a historic run.  Can't be the best forever.  I see a club that has made some difficult decisions, made some mistakes but has created a world class team culture that has been nothing but consistent backed on some very good athletes.

This club is always trying to improve.  We have developed and brought in new talent each year.  Yes we have hung on to our vets, many who are great with a few generational talents.

3 straight 1st place titles since 2022.  15, 14  11 wins.  Formula works. Yes we are trending down but we ain't done yet.  This organization is not perfect but have found incredible success by adapting.  Hall is a good example.  He changed his defensive style to be more effective and then we created a team of DC coaches that further evolved.

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 09, 2025, 12:32:39 PMZach really need to show me something today! Even he goes game manager style this would be an improvement.

NO INTS PLEASE!

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 09, 2025, 02:41:14 AMIt's an over generalization imo.  We have had lots of turnover over the years and one of our pillars of success is our depth and next man up.  I believe some are being over critical of our club, management, coaches and players.  We are a powerhouse near the end of a historic run.  Can't be the best forever.  I see a club that has made some difficult decisions, made some mistakes but has created a world class team culture that has been nothing but consistent backed on some very good athletes.

This club is always trying to improve.  We have developed and brought in new talent each year.  Yes we have hung on to our vets, many who are great with a few generational talents.

3 straight 1st place titles since 2022.  15, 14  11 wins.  Formula works. Yes we are trending down but we ain't done yet.  This organization is not perfect but have found incredible success by adapting.  Hall is a good example.  He changed his defensive style to be more effective and then we created a team of DC coaches that further evolved.

Quote from: tlf on August 09, 2025, 01:23:24 PMHave they..or has our scouting gone downhill since Ted left? It seemed to have gone downhill since then.   Wish him the best, but that thought crossed my mind.

Quote from: Jesse on August 09, 2025, 02:04:11 PMTed just left, we still have all the benefits of his scouting.

Our scouting has gone downhill since Rigmaiden left, imo.

Quote from: Pete on August 09, 2025, 01:53:10 PMName 1 free agent signing in the last 3 years that is an impact player in this league

Quote from: Pete on August 09, 2025, 01:53:10 PMName 1 free agent signing in the last 3 years that is an impact player in this league

Quote from: Horseman on August 09, 2025, 01:27:06 PMNot to be a downer, but the reality of the situation based on our previous two meetings with the Stamps is their OL has done a great job against our DL in opening holes for Mills and giving VAJ time to throw. Our OL is a work in progress. VAJ has diced up our secondary with ease, so realistically I am hoping for the best (anything can happen in a football game) but expecting the worse. Sorry guys and gals but that is my take.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 09, 2025, 03:18:34 PMPath to victory depends on the D-line getting pressure on VA, if Willy and the boys can have a second outstanding game they can throw him off his game and rattle his cage which causes interceptions. Stamps aren't going to beat them running the ball, that's not Dickenson's style.  Also can't afford any breakdowns in the secondary, but with all the recent changes made that's asking a lot.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 09, 2025, 02:41:14 AMIt's an over generalization imo.  We have had lots of turnover over the years and one of our pillars of success is our depth and next man up.  I believe some are being over critical of our club, management, coaches and players.  We are a powerhouse near the end of a historic run.  Can't be the best forever.  I see a club that has made some difficult decisions, made some mistakes but has created a world class team culture that has been nothing but consistent backed on some very good athletes.

This club is always trying to improve.  We have developed and brought in new talent each year.  Yes we have hung on to our vets, many who are great with a few generational talents.

3 straight 1st place titles since 2022.  15, 14  11 wins.  Formula works. Yes we are trending down but we ain't done yet.  This organization is not perfect but have found incredible success by adapting.  Hall is a good example.  He changed his defensive style to be more effective and then we created a team of DC coaches that further evolved.

Quote from: markf on August 09, 2025, 03:31:39 PMI hope Bonds plays well.

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 09, 2025, 01:27:47 PMFor me, Zach needs to pass the eyeball test. I'm not really so concerned about the stats, are the feet fast enough to move around the pocket and make someone miss? Can he scramble to his left and right and make plays? Can he stand in there, take a hit, deliver a ball and get up and do it again?

Haven't seen much of it this year and since he hasn't been able to have success in a three step drop timing style of game then he's got to see if he can still play the way he used to.

Unfortunately, I don't really think he can.

Quote from: Pete on August 09, 2025, 01:53:10 PMName 1 free agent signing in the last 3 years that is an impact player in this league

Quote from: Jesse on August 09, 2025, 03:54:42 PMThe thing is, we did get pressure on VAJ. The amount of times he was literally falling down and tossed the ball up to the perfect spot was insane.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 09, 2025, 04:41:50 PMYou stated that we have stopped trying to improve which is a false statement imo

We have had a lot of turnover and a lot of new good players join this club, be developed and we retained some, while many others have gone on to help other clubs.

I find your posts have a similar feel to them, yes we have issues, yes we are not as strong in the past but I believe you are stretching here and a wee bit to negative at times, that's ok though we all got our spin on this club and your opinion is welcome here always

We are an average club with decent talent and good coaches imo.  A bunch of stars need to align for us to contend this year but they lined up last year pretty darn nice late.  I hope for the same but believe we won't finish as strong but decent enough to challenge folks when the post season starts.

It's not all about top / impact players, it's about having depth, good team culture and enough vetern aces to pull the wagon through the tough times

Quote from: bunker on August 09, 2025, 05:40:33 PMWe have gone from Grey Cup Champions two years in row to what is now an "average club". These are your own words. How can you be satisfied with this?

What has Walters done to improve us?
He's signed Peyton Logan, who hasn't played a game for us, and had a history with Calgary of missing 1/3 of the games due to injury.
He signed Dylan Mitchell who wasn't deemed good enough to play for the last 7 games, and only got on due to injury.
He signed Johnathon Jones who was a healthy  scratch for the first 1/3 of the season.
He signed Schoen who is not healthy and may never be.
He let Lawler go, and used the savings to essentially do the above.

Not his best work as a GM.

I'm still hoping we can improve, since we had a bad start in 24 and came back from it. But I'm less optimistic when I look at our roster, particularly our offense.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 09, 2025, 04:41:50 PMI think he will "rebonds"
With protection Zach can still drop back and sling with the best of them imo

Without he will be a train wreck

Need OL to step up and have a run game
Other have named multiple

You stated that we have stopped trying to improve which is a false statement imo

We have had a lot of turnover and a lot of new good players join this club, be developed and we retained some, while many others have gone on to help other clubs.

I find your posts have a similar feel to them, yes we have issues, yes we are not as strong in the past but I believe you are stretching here and a wee bit to negative at times, that's ok though we all got our spin on this club and your opinion is welcome here always

We are an average club with decent talent and good coaches imo.  A bunch of stars need to align for us to contend this year but they lined up last year pretty darn nice late.  I hope for the same but believe we won't finish as strong but decent enough to challenge folks when the post season starts.

It's not all about top / impact players, it's about having depth, good team culture and enough vetern aces to pull the wagon through the tough times

Quote from: The Zipp on August 09, 2025, 05:54:26 PMgoing to try the official watch party at Jeffries tonight - never been to one before.

maybe i will win something.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 09, 2025, 05:45:59 PMIt's not about satisfaction it's about reality

We were a powerhouse and we are no longer one.  That's ok.  Can't be the best forever.

Logan is regrettable but who knows maybe he can get healthy

Mitchell might come on, but yes a mistake

Jones is great signing

Schoen was a good signing, too bad he got hurt

Lawler was exceptional but very expensive

We signed a few players including Vaughters who has been very good, we had a reasonable draft, hindsight is 20/20

Yes we stuck with a similar roster as we had success with it in the past

I believe the Bombers still have a chance this year and a good core.  I still believe in this club.  We could have had a little more talent at receiver and CB but can't be perfect, the season is still young, we will see a few more players added and a few step up.

I am not satisfied with the play of the club and it's roster but I'm also not panicking like some are.  We will have a tough game today but in a few weeks I see us slowly getting back to what's made us great.

An improved OL(hope), better run game and Zach slinging.  A better defense as we adjust to changes and hopefully get healthy.

Quote from: bunker on August 09, 2025, 06:43:55 PMVaughters was a very good signing.
J Jones... we'll see.
Your last line is what I am hoping for as well tonight. Its possible...there's still some reason for optimism...I think.

Quote from: Jesse on August 09, 2025, 06:38:16 PMI used to love going to Jeffrey's. loved the wings. You'd run into Chris Walby all the time too.

And Mike Kelly one time. That was awkward.

Quote from: bunker on August 09, 2025, 06:43:55 PMVaughters was a very good signing.
J Jones... we'll see.
Your last line is what I am hoping for as well tonight. Its possible...there's still some reason for optimism...I think.

Quote from: Strevy on August 09, 2025, 05:57:30 PMIf they drop the next two they will miss the playoffs.  That said I expect the Bombers to come out flat and lifeless again today.

Calgary plays hard, the O will fold early.  Going to be a rough outing. 

Quote from: The Zipp on August 09, 2025, 05:54:26 PMgoing to try the official watch party at Jeffries tonight - never been to one before.

maybe i will win something.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 09, 2025, 07:44:36 PMLove it
I'll put money on us making the playoffs and believe we could survive a two game skid.  I think tonight will be tight but we should be able to beat Ottawa at home.  Couple keys games to be sure.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 09, 2025, 02:46:54 PMWe signed Lawler as a free agent in 2023. Doesn't get much bigger than that. T. Jones was signed as a free agent in 2024. Vaughters signed in 2025. Castillo in 2023. Griffin in 2024.

Now if you're talking about rookies coming into the CFL that's a different story but I'd say O. Wilson would be the top of my list. Wheatfall has shown promise.

Quote from: Pete on August 09, 2025, 08:49:26 PMthe fact that lawler is the only legit impact player speaks volumes' in that he was a previous bomber.
the others while decent players aren't impact players at this point or even in the top three in their position.
It's not just about impact players but you cant continue to lose allstars like Lawler, Dobson,  Ford, and not replace them adequately and not lose ground or hope to improve.
I do like our younger players like Shay, and Smith , just want to see them given a chance to play

Quote from: Pete on August 09, 2025, 09:30:21 PMok if atrevy is agreeing with me Im probably wrong

Quote from: Strevy on August 09, 2025, 08:41:33 PMDru will slice and Dyce us, this can turn into a 5 game skid in a heartbeat.  We might go 1-4 most likely 0-5 imo.  This is a bargain basement CFL team right now that went from Bully Ball to Chicken Ball.

Will changes be made?  Time will tell.

Quote from: Pete on August 09, 2025, 09:30:21 PMok if strevy is agreeing with me Im probably wrong

Quote from: Strevy on August 09, 2025, 09:35:10 PMYou won't get tired of being right.  Trust me.....

Quote from: markf on August 09, 2025, 10:12:38 PMBroadcast team? 


Please.... Not Suitor.

Quote from: Horseman on August 09, 2025, 01:27:06 PMVAJ has diced up our secondary with ease

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 09, 2025, 10:21:44 PMAny word on GTD Philpot being in/out?

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 09, 2025, 10:14:06 PMWe need both our OC and DC to have better game plans for this week. Vanilla won't cut it. Balls to the walls. Step on the gas early and often.

Then we need to play Brady ball and run it down their throats.

Bombers win by 10.  VAJ has a meltdown in the 1st half.

Jake Thomas sacks him twice :)

Quote from: Jesse on August 09, 2025, 10:36:57 PMI don't think there was ever a chance of him being out.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 09, 2025, 10:45:49 PMWhere on earth is this information made available via the net?  Sure, local CGY radio probably has it, but that doesn't do me any good.

No info on the web pages, no news sources.  It's crazy for fantasy players (and gamblers).

Quote from: Jesse on August 09, 2025, 10:48:58 PMI read a VAJ quote referencing him being back, I think in the free press. Just gave the impression it was obvious that he was back.

Quote from: dd on August 09, 2025, 10:55:55 PM3DownNation reports Adams as being 'officially' in to play vs BB, if VAJ is in, we're done.

Quote from: markf on August 09, 2025, 10:57:10 PMbased on past performance Vaj is due for a stinker.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 09, 2025, 10:52:45 PMYa, but still listed as GTD.  There should be an official cfl page that updates us when the 30 min time limit is up and the info is released.

Quote from: markf on August 09, 2025, 11:03:23 PMSide note TSN+ has been very good this season. I haven't had a single problem with it.

Last year, it was quite bad so, well done TSN.

Quote from: Jesse on August 09, 2025, 11:15:51 PMWhy did Strev go in for 2nd and 3? That was insane.

Quote from: jdrattops on August 09, 2025, 11:16:24 PMNice opening drive until the rookie OC calls a dog of a play.  Losing faith in him.

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 09, 2025, 11:20:07 PMNice start

Quote from: The Zipp on August 09, 2025, 11:24:33 PMhey Hogan - we have a pretty good running back.

Quote from: The Zipp on August 09, 2025, 11:24:33 PMhey Hogan - we have a pretty good running back.

Quote from: jdrattops on August 09, 2025, 11:25:38 PMTwo drives, no Brady between the tackles.  Let's just continue to take the MOP out of the game plan.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 09, 2025, 11:30:30 PMBrady bully ball

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 09, 2025, 11:31:35 PMWe look much sharper than them so far.

Quote from: Jesse on August 09, 2025, 11:35:25 PMWe have been using Brady all season, he's been limited by our horrible turn overs.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 09, 2025, 11:40:05 PMSnaps are high
Hurting run game

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 09, 2025, 11:42:54 PMI think that's the first time Brady has got a deep pass all season.

Edit: OPI push off right before the catch.  Nice fast snap to shut that door

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 09, 2025, 11:48:17 PMD looks outstanding!

Great coverage.

Quote from: markf on August 09, 2025, 11:49:40 PM16 ain't it.

He's shown that a few times.

Quote from: Pete on August 09, 2025, 11:51:35 PMWhy dont we try Cam Allen

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 09, 2025, 11:54:13 PMBrady ball! Yeah

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 09, 2025, 11:44:52 PMWow, unexpected huge start for us.

CGY asleep.

Is that Sterns 1st TD or has he had some already?

Quote from: The Zipp on August 09, 2025, 11:57:00 PMstrev - not the best at the sneak

Quote from: The Zipp on August 09, 2025, 11:57:00 PMstrev - not the best at the sneak

Quote from: Pete on August 09, 2025, 11:58:22 PMlike i said wilson is a better short yardage qb He has the threat of going wider so the d cant stack as much

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 12:01:48 AMThere's no rule that we have to run the sneak every darn time.

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 12:01:48 AMI really hate taking the ball out of Brady's hands when Strev has been just barely making the sneaks.

There's no rule that we have to run the sneak every darn time.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 12:03:03 AMGetting Willie with it

He washed up and old some cried

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 12:01:48 AMI really hate taking the ball out of Brady's hands when Strev has been just barely making the sneaks.

There's no rule that we have to run the sneak every darn time.

Quote from: The Zipp on August 10, 2025, 12:03:27 AMStrev is lacking - BO is the guy

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 12:04:19 AMNope. No one ever said that. Rightfully criticized a slow start and are happy he's picked it up.

Quote from: Pete on August 10, 2025, 12:05:22 AMWe just need to go left side, over the center and right side is calgarys strength

Quote from: The Zipp on August 10, 2025, 12:03:27 AMgreat point. 

Strev is lacking - BO is the guy

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 12:01:48 AMI really hate taking the ball out of Brady's hands when Strev has been just barely making the sneaks.

There's no rule that we have to run the sneak every darn time.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 12:07:45 AMMoney Medlock Cash Castillo

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 12:07:36 AMI like 1st downs and the sneak is the way to go 9/10

Yes give to Brady occasionally

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 12:08:42 AMI think we did once late last season at the goal line and it blew up in our faces.

MOS will never do that again.

Quote from: Blue72 on August 10, 2025, 12:10:03 AMget Kelly out of there, second big one on him

Quote from: markf on August 10, 2025, 12:08:34 AMOn the earlier drive, Brady was out of the backfield five yds, Calgary 12 hit him

Isn't that a penalty? Not called.

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 10, 2025, 12:12:00 AMOh yah Suite can TAKE OFF biased POS

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 12:13:30 AMIf you gonna bring the house, you have to get home

Quote from: Pete on August 10, 2025, 12:12:13 AMagain its OShea going with the old guard,(strev) over the younger

Quote from: Pete on August 10, 2025, 12:16:04 AMwhat was Bonds thinking?

Quote from: markf on August 10, 2025, 12:09:43 AMGive Kelly the hook he's going to lose this game all by himself.

Quote from: markf on August 10, 2025, 12:16:21 AMBasically a bad secondary is giving them this game.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 12:17:28 AMAnd put who in

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 12:16:45 AMAgain because he is the best option

Quote from: barbk on August 10, 2025, 12:18:22 AMI don't quite agree with that being the best option....  Wilson was outstanding in short yardage last game at home against Toronto.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 12:19:00 AMHaha, now do we call up Bridges again with a big soooooooooorrry?  :D  :D  :D  :D

If Bonds is 6G'd...

Quote from: Blue72 on August 10, 2025, 12:19:36 AMEvery team this year has a deep receiver we have nothing, if we do where is he?

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 12:21:04 AMI would

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 12:19:00 AMHaha, now do we call up Bridges again with a big soooooooooorrry?  :D  :D  :D  :D

If Bonds is 6G'd...

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 12:22:50 AMHouston still on couch, no?  We have lots of SMS...

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 12:25:00 AMDidn't agree with giving up the 2 singles.

Quote from: barbk on August 10, 2025, 12:26:34 AMI don't think Houston can come back into Canada with a Domestic Assault charge

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 12:17:28 AMAnd put who in
Don't get better by deletion

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 12:27:00 AMMeh, won't matter.  The free 40Y is how we got all those FGs

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 12:27:55 AMHe has a DA?  Ugh.  These guys...

That said, all the thousand DUI guys were allowed back in... so...

Quote from: barbk on August 10, 2025, 12:26:34 AMI don't think Houston can come back into Canada with a Domestic Assault charge

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 12:28:28 AMThe singles were absolutely the right choices. There was never room to run.

Quote from: J5V on August 10, 2025, 12:28:34 AMLet's not forget this is a very good football team we're playing today. If you had told me we'd be up 7 points at the half I'd be happy.

Quote from: markf on August 10, 2025, 12:29:29 AMKelly. That guy should not be on the field.

Quote from: The Zipp on August 10, 2025, 12:29:48 AMi need to see them again...cause i think he could have got to the 30. 

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 12:28:55 AMIt was dismissed so I don't think that's the issue.

Quote from: J5V on August 10, 2025, 12:28:34 AMLet's not forget this is a very good football team we're playing today. If you had told me we'd be up 7 points at the half I'd be happy.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 12:31:34 AMThat happens when you let it go over your head, intentionally or otherwise. There is always room to run with a 5 yard halo, otherwise nobody would ever have any sort of return.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 12:34:53 AMVAJ has 108 yards passing and 78 came on the bad coverage that went for a TD. I was already going to be annoyed if they converted the 2nd and 10 let alone a blown coverage for a TD.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 12:22:50 AMHouston still on couch, no?  We have lots of SMS...

Quote from: markf on August 10, 2025, 12:29:29 AMI am not one to question who they put on the roster, but I'll make an exception for

Kelly. That guy should not be on the field.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 12:51:13 AMVAJ doing his yoga breathing exercises on the sidelines now.  That's a GREAT sign.  He's not calm, and when he's not calm he makes mistakes.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 12:52:51 AMUgh, I hate when Zach does that.  He's 100% safe in that pocket and he decides he needs to scramble!  Just stay in the pocket!  Channel your inner Ricky Ray

Quote from: The Zipp on August 10, 2025, 12:53:03 AMhard to tell on tv but our recievers must be blanketed or ZC is gunshy

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 12:54:09 AMThat's a good thing.  We're ahead, and doing well.  Chucking a pick would be disaster.

Quote from: The Zipp on August 10, 2025, 12:53:03 AMhard to tell on tv but our recievers must be blanketed or ZC is gunshy

Quote from: The Zipp on August 10, 2025, 12:54:57 AMit's coming :(

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 12:56:35 AMIf we let Mills cook
We cooked

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 12:58:15 AMWe gotta change our schemes at db
Can't man cover Philpot

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 12:55:32 AMYour negativity is nauseating

Quote from: Go_Big_D on August 10, 2025, 12:59:43 AMbombers are gonna have to do something about kelly

Quote from: The Zipp on August 10, 2025, 12:59:31 AMtrend would say it is coming.  hope it doesn't. 

Quote from: The Zipp on August 10, 2025, 12:59:31 AMtrend would say it is coming.  hope it doesn't.

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 01:00:47 AMActually play Kramdi at safety. No reason Kelly should be on.

Quote from: Go_Big_D on August 10, 2025, 01:01:07 AMBB receivers arent doing anything

Quote from: Go_Big_D on August 10, 2025, 01:01:07 AMBB receivers arent doing anything

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 01:01:56 AMZach's taking some heat. The quick stuff is what working.

I wonder if we can get some slants and screens set up.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 01:01:37 AMKramdi isn't exceptional at coverage or safety either and can't cover Philpot on man coverage

Quote from: Pete on August 10, 2025, 12:59:36 AMsmeckle+thomas+kelly= disaster

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 01:01:56 AMZach's taking some heat. The quick stuff is what working.

I wonder if we can get some slants and screens set up.

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 01:03:08 AMThen why is he listed as our safety?

And the S should never be on man coverage.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 01:04:08 AMBecause we rotate everyone one D
Everyone plays as per MOS
Paper doesn't mean that much to this team

Quote from: Pete on August 10, 2025, 01:04:30 AMHogan has to know thats gonna be a blitz. Cmon coach!

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 01:05:16 AMRotation is fine.  Confusing the O is fine.  But never ever in a million years should the FS be alone on a REC.  RB maybe, not REC.

Something is going wrong on these.  I think they are zone and we're not following the deep routes properly.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 01:04:08 AMBecause we rotate everyone one D
Everyone plays as per MOS
Paper doesn't mean that much to this team

Quote from: Pete on August 10, 2025, 01:04:30 AMHogan has to know thats gonna be a blitz. Cmon coach!

Quote from: Blue72 on August 10, 2025, 01:09:55 AMWhen can we switch Hogan for Jackson?

Quote from: jdrattops on August 10, 2025, 01:10:52 AMHogan should not have his job.  O'Shea will die with him if he keeps him around much longer.

Quote from: Strevy on August 10, 2025, 01:12:09 AMBargain Basement Bombers.  You get what you pay for.....

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 01:12:12 AMThat makes no sense
Feed on sale at Peavy? O wait they closed lol
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If O'Shea sticks with him the season is over.

Quote from: jdrattops on August 10, 2025, 01:13:11 AM

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 01:12:12 AMThat makes no sense
Feed on sale at Peavy? O wait they closed lol
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If O'Shea sticks with him the season is over.

Yup you panicking

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 01:14:58 AMOur O is 100% not the problem this game!  Open your eyes.  We have 23 points and zero D scores and zero ST scores.  This is all our O!

And we're still winning.  At least for the next 30 secs...

You want to whinge, complain about the DB corps and scheme

Quote from: markf on August 10, 2025, 01:10:10 AMI request someone to ask oshea why Brady has half as many carries as this time last season.

Our mvp.  Why is that?

Love to hear the gobbledygook he comes up with.

Quote from: jdrattops on August 10, 2025, 01:18:01 AMIn game adjustments, halftime adjustments and another dud 3rd quarter.  There is only one problem on this O and he's sitting upstairs calling the plays.

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 01:19:24 AMHe missed the first 3 games and we've turned the ball over nearly 30 times in 7 games, falling behind early and forcing us to pass the ball more.

It's really simple.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 01:14:58 AMOur O is 100% not the problem this game!  Open your eyes.  We have 23 points and zero D scores and zero ST scores.  This is all our O!

And we're still winning.  At least for the next 30 secs...

You want to whinge, complain about the DB corps and scheme

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 01:14:58 AMOur O is 100% not the problem this game!  Open your eyes.  We have 23 points and zero D scores and zero ST scores.  This is all our O!

And we're still winning.  At least for the next 30 secs...

You want to whinge, complain about the DB corps and scheme

Quote from: markf on August 10, 2025, 01:20:51 AMThis is the tenth game.

And how many carries this game?

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 01:21:29 AMWe were up 17-0 and now are down 25-23.

Our O had the chance to put this away but stalled and still hasn't got it going again.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 01:22:18 AMThat ball was there
Nice shot

Quote from: Blue72 on August 10, 2025, 01:23:27 AMHas Walters gone on holidays or has he given up on improving this team with the Grey Cup being here?

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 01:23:45 AMYup, that was beauty.  I'm shocked Demski didn't come down with it.

That may have been the game.  We get maybe 1-2 of those a game.  Gotta make them.

Quote from: The Zipp on August 10, 2025, 01:27:00 AMholding call on the play.  wouldn't have counted

Quote from: jdrattops on August 10, 2025, 01:28:24 AMBad teams, get bad penalties, at bad times.  They say it's tough beating a team twice in a season, Calgary is in the driver seat to do it for a 3 game sweep.

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 01:22:10 AMThis is our 8th game and Brady had 146 yards in the first half.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 01:27:39 AMUgh, we aren't supposed to take those ST IB's!!  T.Jones, what are you doing?

We can challenge, BTW

Quote from: jdrattops on August 10, 2025, 01:30:09 AMBad challenge, and now a lost TO

Quote from: markf on August 10, 2025, 01:30:06 AMi am too annoyed right now. Need to stop posting.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 01:29:37 AMGame ain't over and you talking like season is

Quote from: Go_Big_D on August 10, 2025, 01:29:15 AMbombers look whipped

Quote from: jdrattops on August 10, 2025, 01:30:09 AMBad challenge, and now a lost TO

Quote from: J5V on August 10, 2025, 01:31:40 AMThat's a terrible call. What is the CC looking at?

Quote from: Pete on August 10, 2025, 01:32:27 AMhas Zac never heard of a pump fake? Haris does it all the time

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 10, 2025, 01:32:41 AMHogan sucks

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 01:33:54 AMHogan  doesn't suck he is new and average and learning

Quote from: Pete on August 10, 2025, 01:32:27 AMhas Zac never heard of a pump fake? Haris does it all the time

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 01:33:07 AMDon't pump fake a screen

Quote from: The Zipp on August 10, 2025, 01:34:03 AM24 yards and 2 first downs in the half. 

don't tell me the offense isn't the problem

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 01:32:56 AMHas to be "super clear and obvious" since middle of 2024.  And extra super duper obvious on a ST challenge.

Quote from: Go_Big_D on August 10, 2025, 01:33:27 AMstamps seem to know the playbook.....and looks like its game over for the bb s

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 01:33:54 AMHogan  doesn't suck he is new and average and learning

Quote from: Go_Big_D on August 10, 2025, 01:35:06 AMlol....zach looks like he has 0 enthusiasm for the game

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 01:37:07 AMHmmm.... Biggie still D Whisperer With Tablet on sidelines.  But trust us bro, he's gonna dress any day now, we pinkie swear!  Trust us bro

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 01:38:30 AMYes, Biggie's the expert on Hogan's crappy playbook. That's why Toronto shut us down too. Biggie told them.

Quote from: Pete on August 10, 2025, 01:36:20 AMagain thomas just shoved aside

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 01:34:28 AMOk, so MOS sucks for hiring him then.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 01:40:29 AMWell, even easier now that No-Deep-Hits Parades whiffed!

Slow drive, 3 down ball, kick a walk off

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 01:39:45 AMCGY actually spelled it out in pressers!  They actually show Biggie guiding the entire D.  He tells them what we're trying to do.  They actually stated it.

Holy moses, what will it take for you to put on some tinfoil?

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 01:41:55 AMIt's just not a big deal. There's nothing Bighill can say that Dickinson doesn't already know.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 01:40:26 AMNah the forum needs a whipping boy so they get carried away

O good let's pick on Thomas too

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 01:43:05 AMThis one is special.  They actually said it.  They actually showed him.

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 01:43:31 AMlol.

Quote from: Go_Big_D on August 10, 2025, 01:46:27 AMRT #69 is a joke....2 plays in a row he let his man run by

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 01:51:08 AMWell, we hold them here and Parades could miss again.  He's stinky

Quote from: Pete on August 10, 2025, 01:50:54 AMthe refs have been terrible

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 01:52:16 AMNa na na na na

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 01:52:42 AMNa na na na nA

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 01:53:32 AMCheering for Calgary now?

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 01:53:32 AMCheering for Calgary now?

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 01:49:39 AMPick there

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 01:52:31 AMTalk of the singles is so annoying

Quote from: barbk on August 10, 2025, 01:53:50 AMWhere is your #1D Pollyanna

Quote from: The Zipp on August 10, 2025, 01:55:16 AMterrible play calling in the second half

hogan shouldt have been hired

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 01:55:03 AMWhy? We gave up 2 points on K/O's and lost by a point?

Quote from: Ducky on August 10, 2025, 01:56:54 AMSeason is toast.  Wont even make the playoffs. What a disaster.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 01:55:03 AMWhy? We gave up 2 points on K/O's and lost by a point?

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 01:54:19 AMTrying to jinx the kicker with online voodoo

You love to argue over nothing for no reason

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 01:56:18 AMHogan least of our worries imo
He will improve and learn
No OC would kill it off the hop imo

Quote from: jdrattops on August 10, 2025, 01:57:47 AMThey did give us one back.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 01:58:41 AMNo so far he hasn't, positive attitude only goes so far when reality is right in front of you. That said, our offensive talent is not good enough.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 01:57:27 AMOn the bright side, we held up pretty good against the #1 team in the league (standings notwithstanding), with almost their full healthy team.

Who would have thought right after losing to CGY twice that we'd lose by 1 point in the 3rd game?

If no VAJ, we win this game easily.  But we got unlucky and they got VAJ back.

Zach taking the last 2 sacks was just more symptom of the entire team NOT BEING BOLD.  Be bold and win the game.  Go for it on 3rd.  D wasn't stopping anyone, I would have bet $1M on it if I could have.  Maybe Parades misses, but VAJ was going to get that 25Y to get in range.

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 01:58:05 AMDude, crowds cheer na na na to taunt the losing team off the field.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 01:59:55 AMWhich was a giant error on Castillo's part. It gave them better field position and all they needed was the FG. Winning by 1 point or 2 points is still a win.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 01:55:16 AMFishing while moving with lines out
#1d was trending 1st half then we got hurt
Never said #1d

Quote from: barbk on August 10, 2025, 02:00:43 AMBlueforlife it goes like this Na na na Na.... Na na na Na hey hey hey good bye

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 02:00:27 AMYeah fire and new OC at 4 and 4
Terrible idea
You always talk like your opinion is reality, when its just your take

Quote from: The Zipp on August 10, 2025, 02:01:20 AMyou did, then changed it to #1D building

prob number 8D at best

number 7 offence

how many first downs in the second half ?

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 02:01:25 AMTrolling

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 02:01:41 AM4 and 4 isn't good. It's a step back from the standard and should rightfully be viewed as a failure.

Quote from: The Zipp on August 10, 2025, 01:54:06 AMcastillo rouge on the kickoff wasn't great - bad move 

team is not good enough on offence - the trend of disappearing for stretches continues

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 02:02:58 AMWell, what more could you ask for with 2:00 left in the 4th and down by 2 and you have the ball?  This is a dream scenario.  Years past we win that easily with clock and ball control.  We'd be unstoppable.

Zach needs to throw the ball if it's a called pass.  You can't eat it.  You can't dawdle and hem & haw.  Throw the **** ball.  It won't matter if it's an INT because you're going to lose anyway if you fail to drive.

So close, yet so far.

Quote from: blueandgoldguy on August 10, 2025, 02:03:19 AMWho are you kidding.  Even without kicking it in the endzone, Calgary likely runs it to around 30 yard line on the return and easily moves it another 40 plus yards with 50 seconds left.  There is a lack of playmakers among the defensive backs.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 02:01:25 AMTrolling

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 02:00:32 AMDug our own grave and it had nothing to do with VAJ.

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 02:02:51 AMExplaining. Literally everyone heard the same thing when you did that and no one thought you were "jinxing the kicker".

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 02:05:06 AMWOW. Thomas, Adams and Schmekel each had a DT. Gave up 113 yards rushing and couldn't make a play if their lives depended on it.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 02:03:07 AMDisagree
We laid 2 eggs in Calgary and hard boiled one
Deep breath

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 02:02:39 AMNope I called it like it was, d started good then we got hurt
Fake news
You just trying to pile on and it's not fair
I edit almost every post nice try
Wow

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 02:04:27 AMUh, did you see their backup QB start last week?  Ya, no VAJ, no passing yards, no game, no points, no win.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 02:04:27 AMUh, did you see their backup QB start last week?  Ya, no VAJ, no passing yards, no game, no points, no win.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 02:06:22 AMYou think the blown coverage early on for a 78 yard TD was good defence?

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 02:03:25 AMWhich can be fixed

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 02:04:27 AMUh, did you see their backup QB start last week?  Ya, no VAJ, no passing yards, no game, no points, no win.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 02:05:42 AMWoods to the rescue

Quote from: barbk on August 10, 2025, 02:04:16 AMDo you even know what trolling is?  I'm going to be trolling the pickem contest so I will no longer be trolling LOL

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 02:09:32 AMOn 6 game IR and we don't even know if he's better than Adams.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 02:07:58 AMI think the defense played ok 1st half
Yes our rookie CB and Kelly at FS will get roasted
Reality is we did well considering and I liked our D early but not 2nd half but they gases as O laid it's egg

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 01:58:05 AMDude, crowds cheer na na na to taunt the losing team off the field.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 02:01:25 AMTrolling

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 01:59:55 AMWhich was a giant error on Castillo's part. It gave them better field position and all they needed was the FG. Winning by 1 point or 2 points is still a win.

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 02:00:32 AMWe should have easily won that game VAJ or no VAJ.

The offence was completely shut down in the second half and we don't seem to have any situational awareness when making play calls. Dug our own grave and it had nothing to do with VAJ.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 02:15:01 AMVAJ is why they won

Quote from: TrueBlue75 on August 10, 2025, 02:12:32 AMHonestly your posts are the ultimate trolling in this forum. You call out everyone else for their, in your eyes, negative opinions. You dredge up comments from weeks past to flaunt it in others' faces and then say people are picking on you and being mean when the same is done to you. You talk about wanting to talk game in the threads but then proceed to put down anyone who posts with frustration. PJ, your posts do not rock and are quite honestly super annoying and one of the big reasons why I tend to only lurk from the sidelines these days.

Anyway, about the game...I felt optimistic going in to halftime, but some gobsmacking play calling and terrible play of the secondary did the team in. They hung in there but this team is not championship calibre this season. Unless some massive upgrades are brought in via trade or signings we won't be cheering our home team on in the home Grey Cup. We just don't have the quality like we've had in the past.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 02:15:01 AMVAJ is why they won

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 02:16:39 AMThey won by a single point when our offence did nothing in the entire second half.

VAJ was average at best.

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 02:16:39 AMThey won by a single point when our offence did nothing in the entire second half.

VAJ was average at best.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 02:17:09 AMClearly our defence lost the game. VAJ had too much time and we couldn't cover or tackle. Strategy continues to allow receivers to catch in front of the secondary and then try to swarm and tackle.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 02:18:17 AM63 yard FG to go ahead with a minute was pretty impressive if we could stop any pass thereafter.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 02:17:33 AMVAJ was good and the deep ball won them the game imo
No VAJ and we win by 7 imo

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 02:21:03 AMThat's the same issue why we lost other games in this skid. Can't cover the deep ball and then miss the tackle.

Coxie had over 300 yards total in the two games against us.

Quote from: Strevy on August 10, 2025, 02:24:59 AMBargain Basement Bombers, strange time to field such a poor team.  CHEAP CHEAP!

Quote from: Ducky on August 10, 2025, 02:28:42 AMWorst group of DBs we have fielded in, what, a decade plus? They simply cannot cover. We get killed every game by the deep ball.

D schemes are not helping.

Oline is a turnstyle.

O schemes are predictable.

Quote from: Ducky on August 10, 2025, 02:28:42 AMWorst group of DBs we have fielded in, what, a decade plus? They simply cannot cover. We get killed every game by the deep ball.

D schemes are not helping.

Oline is a turnstyle.

O schemes are predictable.

Quote from: Strevy on August 10, 2025, 02:32:03 AMAgree on all points.  Are big changes coming or does Wade risk another GC disaster like 2015?

Stay tuned..

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 10, 2025, 02:14:35 AMHuge mistake kicking it through the endzone, if they would have started from their 20 good chance the Bombers win.

Quote from: blueandgoldguy on August 10, 2025, 02:33:40 AMThere was very little chance they would win if Castillo had not kicked it in the endzone.  If he kicks it to around the ten like he normally would it's pretty well a guarantee Calgary runs it up to around the 30 yard line and that probably only runs 7  - 8 seconds off the clock. 

As it was, Calgary wracked up 2 passing plays totaling 30 yards in like 10 seconds to already bring them into field goal position and then just decided to run the ball for 2 plays to run time off the clock the make the field goal slightly shorter. 

There's no reason they wouldn't have done the exact same thing if they started around the 30 yard line with 50 seconds left, but add in another 10 - 15 yard pass and make it around a 40 yard field goal attempt anyways.  The defense on this team was not up to the task of stopping the stamp offense from marching down the field for field goals on most of their drives in the second half.

Quote from: mondo3 on August 10, 2025, 02:32:47 AMI was only able to watch a small portion of the game. Was Mitchell a factor?

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 02:34:29 AMFrom 20 better chance
30bout same

Quote from: blueandgoldguy on August 10, 2025, 02:36:51 AMIt doesn't matter.  Winnipeg was not stopping Adams from driving the ball down the field.

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 01:31:45 AMIt was a good challenge. Looked like a terrible call to me and it represented a big swing.

Quote from: Ducky on August 10, 2025, 02:28:42 AMWorst group of DBs we have fielded in, what, a decade plus? They simply cannot cover. We get killed every game by the deep ball.

D schemes are not helping.

Oline is a turnstyle.

O schemes are predictable.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 10, 2025, 02:46:38 AMNick Taylor time?  Might be time to revive BA's career if he's still in shape, keep him on the PR just in case they need an experienced DB with Bonds and Parker out.

Quote from: mondo3 on August 10, 2025, 02:32:47 AMI was only able to watch a small portion of the game. Was Mitchell a factor?

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 02:53:09 AMBad ideas x2 imo
Need previous cut, other teams cuts or fresh meat

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 10, 2025, 02:58:30 AMyou responses are bad ideas.  :D

Quote from: Pigskin on August 10, 2025, 03:29:22 AMKelly will report to burn unit once the team lands in Winnipeg.
TSN turning point, Strev17 can't make the 1 yard and we turnover the ball. Zero points.
Hogan has no answer in the 2nd. half for Calgary's D.
Castillo big mistake kicking the ball into the end zone.
Jones with a bad penalty. Cost us 44 yards.

The mistakes just keep adding up.

Quote from: Strevy on August 10, 2025, 04:05:20 AMThis team knows they are not good enough and play like it.  Jackson is here, Buck put Zach back in lol?  Which two starters on D do you think would be backups on any contender?  You know the answer.  They are nationals that don't even have to play a snap unless injuries.  One can chase down kicks one can barely run and should never see the field.

Anyway, this team is bad and the score flattered them today.  Streveler brings fire and lifts the team, Zach is flat and takes sacks or tosses picks.  Today he was hesitant and scared to toss it to Calgary so he went down.  He played bad. 

Guessing the medical staff clears him baes on his health, not ability to grip a **** football.  Dumb decision.

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 10, 2025, 02:55:34 AMlol

No

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 10, 2025, 02:55:34 AMlol

No

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Quote from: Stats Junkie on August 10, 2025, 05:35:20 AMI commented elsewhere that Castillo hit a legit 63 yard field goal. I guess it has double meaning today.

When I first typed it i was referring to Paul McCallum's 62 yard field goal that was re-scored as 63 yards in 2023. Truth is, it was 62 and change.

Others interpreted it to mean that Castillo's kick was a legit CFL record whereas the NFL kicker that nailed a 70 yard FG did it in an exhibition game.

Quote from: Pigskin on August 10, 2025, 03:29:22 AMCastillo big mistake kicking the ball into the end zone.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 10, 2025, 02:46:38 AMNick Taylor time?  Might be time to revive BA's career if he's still in shape, keep him on the PR just in case they need an experienced DB with Bonds and Parker out.

Quote from: blueandgoldguy on August 10, 2025, 02:33:40 AMThere was very little chance they would win if Castillo had not kicked it in the endzone.

Quote from: blueandgoldguy on August 10, 2025, 02:36:51 AMIt doesn't matter.  Winnipeg was not stopping Adams from driving the ball down the field.

Quote from: mondo3 on August 10, 2025, 02:32:47 AMI was only able to watch a small portion of the game. Was Mitchell a factor?

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 02:17:09 AMClearly our defence lost the game. VAJ had too much time and we couldn't cover or tackle. Strategy continues to allow receivers to catch in front of the secondary and then try to swarm and tackle.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 02:05:06 AMWOW. Thomas, Adams and Schmekel each had a DT. Gave up 113 yards rushing and couldn't make a play if their lives depended on it.

Quote from: Blue72 on August 10, 2025, 02:16:10 AMYou are not going to win very many game with just a MOP RB and Demski. Is it time for Miller to speak up?
MOS said he likes the guys he has on this team today, is he watching the game or team?

Quote from: Waffler on August 10, 2025, 12:58:01 PMThis is pretty much what Doug Brown asked the coach in the post game. He asked if we had the receivers in particular and was incredulous at the answer that MOS likes who we have. 

To me we are looking like a 3rd place team.  We are holding it together by playing as a team but in fact we are out manned by the best teams everywhere but RB and kicking/returning game.

Speaking of kicking I thought Sheahan had his best game as a Bomber.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 02:02:58 AMWell, what more could you ask for with 2:00 left in the 4th and down by 2 and you have the ball?  This is a dream scenario.  Years past we win that easily with clock and ball control.  We'd be unstoppable.

Zach needs to throw the ball if it's a called pass.  You can't eat it.  You can't dawdle and hem & haw.  Throw the **** ball.  It won't matter if it's an INT because you're going to lose anyway if you fail to drive.

So close, yet so far.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 07:17:21 AMUh, they stopped the run nearly all 1st H.  We stuffed Mills behind LoS a ton and limited him to 1-3 many others.  Run D was great then.  Should have kept it up.

We got lax in the 2nd H probably because VAJ/OC was showing pass-mostly and the deep burns were killing us.  And we probably got tired and disheartened by the crap O play in the 2nd H.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 01:47:48 AMSmart move by CGY.  Should have tried to finesse kick it

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 02:20:00 PMI didn't like our play calling on the last drive. Collaros seemed to be looking deep twice and then was sacked. Yes, Castillo then made the 63 yard FG for the lead with 1:01 left on the clock. All we had to do was get another 1 or 2 1st downs and kill the clock before kicking the FG.

Bombers led the game for the 1st 47 minutes. Lots of plays that didn't go our way but give credit to the Stamps for stopping Streveler for example. They also identified our weakness's and exploited them.

Oliveria had a great day and was our leading receiver with 100 yards. Overall he had 50% of our offensive output. Great game for him but it shows the problem with the rest of our offence. Wheatfall has been invisible. Sterns is not bad but we got nearly nothing from anyone else yesterday.

We can't seem to do the right thing when the chips are down. Stamps moved 47 yards after the K/O to kick the winning FG.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 10, 2025, 07:15:49 AMIt really sucks, and it feels bad, as Rider fans live it up with their all-8Y-pass QB and their near perfect record.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 01:16:46 PMThe game is 60 minutes. I could care less about some success in the 1st half against the run when we give up deep uncontested passes. In the end we still gave up 113 yards rushing to Mills.

Yes our offence couldn't move the ball well enough to kill the clock in their final drive. I stand by the fact the defence cost us the game. We gave up 400+ yards and continue to not be able to stop 2nd and long.

I didn't see the defence stop the Stamps on their last drive to score the winning FG.

Just re-watched the game and saw that the Stamps didn't really run much in the 1st half. So we didn't stop the run as much as they were mostly passing

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 03:03:25 PMCalgary scored 4 field goals in the second half. 12 points.

Defence held strong through the game. Offence falling apart lost the game.

Quote from: Ridermania on August 10, 2025, 02:12:16 PMBomber fans, the sun did come up today.

Season is not even half over, just relax.

No coaching changes will happen during the season.

I still believe that the Bombers will make the play-offs, may be in the east as a cross over, but will make it.

Real season doesn't start until Labour Day.

Quote from: Jesse on August 10, 2025, 03:03:25 PMCalgary scored 4 field goals in the second half. 12 points.

Defence held strong through the game. Offence falling apart lost the game.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 03:12:02 PMI would agree with that assessment
D did enough
O couldn't get it done 2nd half
ST special
About as bang on as it comes, where were you yesterday I was on an island lol

We will know what we are by fall

All is not lost, keep the faith! Bring in some fresh meat!

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 03:24:49 PMWhich team had the ball with 1:01 left on the clock when we were leading the score?

Quote from: TBURGESS on August 10, 2025, 03:20:12 PMWe surprised them in the first half with the all Brady all the time offence. They made adjustments at the half, took that away, and won the game.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 03:19:22 PMDisagree. We gave up a 78 yard TD, a 50 yard PI among some significant failures. Also gave up a 39 yard and 48 yard passing play and 105 yards rushing. In total 400+ yards given up not even counting the 50 yard PI by Kelly.

We may have only given up 12 points in the 2nd half but the last FG cost us the game on the last play. The offence built up a 17 - 0 lead and then the defence folded.

If that's the definition of a good defensive performance, then what is the definition of a bad performance?

Quote from: BBRT on August 10, 2025, 04:01:11 PMI was at the game last night. While I do have two season tickets and have had them for around 20 years or so I seldom have time to make a game unless the Bombers or Riders are in town. So here are my comments - remember they are just my thoughts and also remember I have been a Bomber Fan since 1971 (married a Canadian).

First Comment - this is directed to the CFL fans in Calgary - where are you? My Super Reds section was pretty empty. I am not sure what the attendance was but there were not all that many folks there.

Second Comment - The score flattered the Bombers - they were overplayed on both sides of the ball for the entire second half.

Third Comment - there is just not enough talent on the Bomber roster. And too many folks past their best before date.

Forth Comment: The Bomber DL and Secondary is just not good enough. The secondary can not cover nor tackle very well. The DL did not get much pressure on VA all day long.

Fifth and Last Comment: Based on what I could see the Stamps DL, Linebackers and Secondary are far  better than anything the Bombers could put on the field. Like wise talent wise the Calgary offense is better across the board (other that RB) than what the Bombers can put on the field.

I will always be a Bomber Fan but truth be known this is a very weak team and I do not seem much opportunity for improvement.

Quote from: BBRT on August 10, 2025, 04:01:11 PMI was at the game last night. While I do have two season tickets and have had them for around 20 years or so I seldom have time to make a game unless the Bombers or Riders are in town. So here are my comments - remember they are just my thoughts and also remember I have been a Bomber Fan since 1971 (married a Canadian).

First Comment - this is directed to the CFL fans in Calgary - where are you? My Super Reds section was pretty empty. I am not sure what the attendance was but there were not all that many folks there.

Second Comment - The score flattered the Bombers - they were overplayed on both sides of the ball for the entire second half.

Third Comment - there is just not enough talent on the Bomber roster. And too many folks past their best before date.

Forth Comment: The Bomber DL and Secondary is just not good enough. The secondary can not cover nor tackle very well. The DL did not get much pressure on VA all day long.

Fifth and Last Comment: Based on what I could see the Stamps DL, Linebackers and Secondary are far  better than anything the Bombers could put on the field. Like wise talent wise the Calgary offense is better across the board (other that RB) than what the Bombers can put on the field.

I will always be a Bomber Fan but truth be known this is a very weak team and I do not seem much opportunity for improvement.

Quote from: BBRT on August 10, 2025, 04:01:11 PMI was at the game last night. While I do have two season tickets and have had them for around 20 years or so I seldom have time to make a game unless the Bombers or Riders are in town. So here are my comments - remember they are just my thoughts and also remember I have been a Bomber Fan since 1971 (married a Canadian).

First Comment - this is directed to the CFL fans in Calgary - where are you? My Super Reds section was pretty empty. I am not sure what the attendance was but there were not all that many folks there.

Second Comment - The score flattered the Bombers - they were overplayed on both sides of the ball for the entire second half.

Third Comment - there is just not enough talent on the Bomber roster. And too many folks past their best before date.

Forth Comment: The Bomber DL and Secondary is just not good enough. The secondary can not cover nor tackle very well. The DL did not get much pressure on VA all day long.

Fifth and Last Comment: Based on what I could see the Stamps DL, Linebackers and Secondary are far  better than anything the Bombers could put on the field. Like wise talent wise the Calgary offense is better across the board (other that RB) than what the Bombers can put on the field.

I will always be a Bomber Fan but truth be known this is a very weak team and I do not seem much opportunity for improvement.

Quote from: Pigskin on August 10, 2025, 04:37:11 PMCalgary has done an amazing job of scouting and bring in talent. This Roberts and Hutchings are outstanding. There D is big and physical. 

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 10, 2025, 03:26:27 PMA few of us believe the D played good enough to win and the O let us down.  And maybe would share your view.  D could have held them maybe with Bonds in.  O laid an egg 2nd half, D held in there.  Yes D not great.  O needed one more 1st down and we win.  Close one.

Agree to disagree. It's OK to let things go, we all have valid pts.
Bang on
It's not as cut and dry as that.  D held in there for most part.  O needed more juice 2nd half.  Not about good and bad about what lost us the game imo.

Quote from: Pigskin on August 10, 2025, 04:44:14 PMDid Corcoran and Jon Jones dress. Neither made a play. Jones was VG on teams last week, and Corcoran is automatic for the 7-8 yard pass over the middle. I would also like to see Peterson get a couple of touches a game, just to throw a wrinkle, into the running game. 

Quote from: BBRT on August 10, 2025, 04:01:11 PMI was at the game last night. While I do have two season tickets and have had them for around 20 years or so I seldom have time to make a game unless the Bombers or Riders are in town. So here are my comments - remember they are just my thoughts and also remember I have been a Bomber Fan since 1971 (married a Canadian).

First Comment - this is directed to the CFL fans in Calgary - where are you? My Super Reds section was pretty empty. I am not sure what the attendance was but there were not all that many folks there.

Second Comment - The score flattered the Bombers - they were overplayed on both sides of the ball for the entire second half.

Third Comment - there is just not enough talent on the Bomber roster. And too many folks past their best before date.

Forth Comment: The Bomber DL and Secondary is just not good enough. The secondary can not cover nor tackle very well. The DL did not get much pressure on VA all day long.

Fifth and Last Comment: Based on what I could see the Stamps DL, Linebackers and Secondary are far  better than anything the Bombers could put on the field. Like wise talent wise the Calgary offense is better across the board (other that RB) than what the Bombers can put on the field.

I will always be a Bomber Fan but truth be known this is a very weak team and I do not seem much opportunity for improvement.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 02:20:00 PMOliveria had a great day and was our leading receiver with 100 yards. Overall he had 50% of our offensive output. Great game for him but it shows the problem with the rest of our offence. Wheatfall has been invisible. Sterns is not bad but we got nearly nothing from anyone else yesterday.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 05:32:16 PMSeems pretty cut and dry to me.

As I said, we led the score for the 1st 47 minutes. At one point we had a 17 - 0 lead. Our only turnover was on downs by a failed 3rd and short inside the Stamps 6 yard line. We scored a FG with 1:01 left.

It may not have been pretty but it was the defence that kept letting the Stamps back in the game. I gave the specific examples.

Most importantly, our defence was on the field and allowed the Stamps to move the ball about 40 yards to score a FG.

Sure. We didn't score 50 points but it was our defence that allowed the Stamps to get the winning points.

Hindsight is great but it was questioned why we gave up 2 singles on K/O's. It's not unusual to field the ball at the 5 or so yard line. In fact that's almost an over kick which allows the returner to hit the seems at speed.

We'll never know how that would have worked out. We know that teams often let punts inside the 10 yard line to give up the single. Not so much on K/O's.

We won the TOP in the 1st Q. OTOH, it doesn't take long to score a 78 yard pass play. It does indicate our offence kept the Stamps off the field.

How do we check the final TOP.  I suspect we won TOP but again, the Stamps didn't have long multiple play drives. They moved in big chunks.

All of that is on the defence. Those are hard facts.

Quote from: theaardvark on August 10, 2025, 07:38:02 PMHalf time adjustments are not only to what their offence is doing, but also to what you expect their defence is going to change to.  I understand having a different 1st half / 2nd half game plan, even if the 1st half goes well.  But they were adapting as the half went on.

We need to be more dynamic in the playcalling.  And I don't mean flea flickers and jet sweep tosses, but just the simple run on passing downs or pass on running downs. Getting mismatches and taking advantage of them.  Brady on a DE was a classic, if Zach had a hair more air on that, its a TD.

We kept them without a first down for 3 series to start, and then not so much.

Losing Bonds did not help, but moving Kramdi to FS was also questionable, when he has been such a force at SAM.  Kelly is a good backup, but he's not ready for prime time, IMHO.  He got torched too much this game.

Lawson was OK, but we need another stud INT DB/FS ASAP. Did we miss out on Ciote Evans?  Does Nichols have another buddy like Bonds? (or was it the other way around?)

"Big Play" Adams lived up to his name, and we should not have been torched like we were.  I don't think we ran Cheetah enough, Willie did not get a chance to shoot through the A gap, did Person get a stat?

I think Sergio's adrenaline was peaked when he drove it through the endzone, that should have been an in bounds, not in endzone kick for sure.  The point didn't matter as much as the time and yardage.

I don't know why, but it seems CFL teams cannot do "prevent".  NFL does, but the extra man and the waggle just seems to kill it in the CFL.

Sergio good from 63 vs. Medlock short from 62...  glad Mr Maracas is here.

Just seems a pity to waste it.

Quote from: theaardvark on August 10, 2025, 07:38:02 PMHalf time adjustments are not only to what their offence is doing, but also to what you expect their defence is going to change to.  I understand having a different 1st half / 2nd half game plan, even if the 1st half goes well.  But they were adapting as the half went on.

We need to be more dynamic in the playcalling.  And I don't mean flea flickers and jet sweep tosses, but just the simple run on passing downs or pass on running downs. Getting mismatches and taking advantage of them.  Brady on a DE was a classic, if Zach had a hair more air on that, its a TD.

We kept them without a first down for 3 series to start, and then not so much.

Losing Bonds did not help, but moving Kramdi to FS was also questionable, when he has been such a force at SAM.  Kelly is a good backup, but he's not ready for prime time, IMHO.  He got torched too much this game.

Lawson was OK, but we need another stud INT DB/FS ASAP. Did we miss out on Ciote Evans?  Does Nichols have another buddy like Bonds? (or was it the other way around?)

"Big Play" Adams lived up to his name, and we should not have been torched like we were.  I don't think we ran Cheetah enough, Willie did not get a chance to shoot through the A gap, did Person get a stat?

I think Sergio's adrenaline was peaked when he drove it through the endzone, that should have been an in bounds, not in endzone kick for sure.  The point didn't matter as much as the time and yardage.

I don't know why, but it seems CFL teams cannot do "prevent".  NFL does, but the extra man and the waggle just seems to kill it in the CFL.

Sergio good from 63 vs. Medlock short from 62...  glad Mr Maracas is here.

Just seems a pity to waste it.

Quote from: gordo on August 10, 2025, 03:29:01 PMThe 63 yarder by Sergio was a thing of beauty. And a no-brainer call to take the lead. Blaming him for the ensuing KO is wrong. If you don't think he was given instruction then you haven't been paying attention.

Quote from: dd on August 10, 2025, 10:49:43 PMAgree we have 2nd rate receiving corps in Sterns (the best of the IMP's and like you said, couldn't make the Riders), Wheatfall, Corcoran, Clercius all 2nd rate receivers, not a play maker in the bunch. Brady and Demski are play makers, they make things happen, the others are just dead weight. We need impact receivers. We don't han't ve a Lawler, or a Lewis or a Coxie or a I could go down the line...every team has a killer deep ball reciever, who's ours?? We don't have one/I haven't seen him yet, and until then, our offense isn't going anywhere as teams will flood the box, shut down the run and force us into the brutal offense we seen the second half

Quote from: markf on August 10, 2025, 11:16:33 PMAndrew Harris 2019 highlights....

Everyone is blocking, it's mayhem, lots of plays nobody touches him till he's  five yards downfield.

We do not have anything like that now.

https://youtu.be/_OakVRvACyc?si=uvId9WoGAreDjzt6

Quote from: Waffler on August 10, 2025, 01:14:34 PMNo, you cannot just throw the ball anyway unless it's the last play of the game. If a pick is thrown it is worse than a punt.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 01:16:46 PMYes our offence couldn't move the ball well enough to kill the clock in their final drive. I stand by the fact the defence cost us the game. We gave up 400+ yards and continue to not be able to stop 2nd and long.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 11, 2025, 12:11:58 AMI don't know when vet cut down day is but I would give Mitchell till then to prove his worth and if not bring back Reggie White.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 10, 2025, 05:09:41 PMWilson looked very good at MLB as well, how they take him out for Bighill, I don't see. Techno maybe right about the reason Dickenson signed Biggie, I don't think his story ends well.

Quote from: gordo on August 10, 2025, 03:29:01 PMOur safety had a great view of the explosion plays we gave up too often. Runs great, just can't tackle or break anything up.

Time to bring in a big American who can run, hit and dominate the middle. NFL cuts can't happen soon enough.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 10, 2025, 03:19:22 PMIf that's the definition of a good defensive performance, then what is the definition of a bad performance?

Quote from: dd on August 10, 2025, 02:51:55 PMYou're right. Our offense was very Brady centric

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 11, 2025, 02:06:08 AMFrom memory, I don't think we stopped a single VAJ deep shot.  Not one.  If you count DPI as a completion (which you should) then I think they made every attempt.

I was screaming at VAJ/OC to just chuck deep the entire game.  We weren't going to stop any of it.  I don't know why they bothered with any short game at all.

Maybe they were just toying with us like a lion does a mouse.  They knew the whole time they could drive the field with long bombs whenever they pleased.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 11, 2025, 02:09:12 AMI really liked the Brady work.  Basically zero called Brady passes all season, and boom we figure out he can make plays in this game?  Hogan got the memo?

The AH dump pass used to be 30% of our game.  Get back to doing that.  Make them always waste a spy (or 2) on Brady.

And I really liked how even though Brady has been badly shut down all season, we found a way to get him the ball.  Finally.

We'll need to duplicate this every game if we want to overcome our dire REC corps situation, and iffy OL hodgepodge & its weekly forced changes.

Quote from: Big Daddy on August 11, 2025, 02:10:16 AMBut yes, I know you were being a bit sarcastic.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 11, 2025, 02:16:10 AMNot this time.  When CGY was faltering they were doing short game and stuffed Mills runs (all 1st H).  They were attacking the busy flat where our competent LBers were, and our DL could get batdowns.  It was dumb by them.

Did they not know they could just throw deep with impunity?  Maybe they didn't believe it until Bonds went down?  Maybe they were scared to try?

I maintain that everyone in the world, in the stands, CGY fans, WPG fans, both teams, etc, everyone, knew VAJ was going to get that 30Y or so needed for the winning FG.  If someone claims this is not true, would you really have bet $1000 that VAJ fails to do it?

To me that is "toying with us".  In fact, if they wanted to rub it in, they should have gotten a TD.  I bet they could have with zero effort in 2 shots.

We really were that pathetic at the end of the game.

Quote from: Big Daddy on August 11, 2025, 02:40:33 AM"They knew the whole time they could drive the field with long bombs whenever they pleased."  That clearly wasn't the case, and that's all I meant

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 11, 2025, 04:03:44 AMYes, you are correct.  My statement was a bit hyperbolic, and ties in more with the possibility they were toying with us the whole time.  Odds are they knew we could damage them and sneak out a win (like we did TOR), so they didn't want to open it all up until they saw it was safe.

I bet they now think they can plow over us with impunity though!  At least until we make changes and/or improve.  We shall see come post-season!

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 11, 2025, 04:22:17 AMConfirmed my live take: on the deep pass to Brady, Brady commits blatant OPI with a completely-extended left arm to push back the DB, and right as the ball arrives.

I can get a great still of this to prove it should there be doubters.

That's why we ran up to do the next play immediately.  Would have lost a challenge.

Maybe no ref was watching because Brady never gets deep looks?  I'll take it.  So much reffing has gone against us.  It's DtG's job to challenge fast.  He snoozed, he loozed.  ;)

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 11, 2025, 04:22:17 AMConfirmed my live take: on the deep pass to Brady, Brady commits blatant OPI with a completely-extended left arm to push back the DB, and right as the ball arrives.

I can get a great still of this to prove it should there be doubters.

That's why we ran up to do the next play immediately.  Would have lost a challenge.

Maybe no ref was watching because Brady never gets deep looks?  I'll take it.  So much reffing has gone against us.  It's DtG's job to challenge fast.  He snoozed, he loozed.  ;)

Quote from: dd on August 11, 2025, 04:40:39 AMI saw the push off when it happened and wondered why Dickie didn't challenge the huge gain. To me it was an obvious push to get separation. No call and it's fine as it worked in our favour but what comes around goes around,

Quote from: Big Daddy on August 11, 2025, 04:44:29 AMWhat comes around goes around, but that is on DD for not throwing the challenge flag. We all saw it, if his spotters didn't then that is on them.  We didn't even rush the play as much as possible, so unless the camera work at their field is worse than elsewhere, DD should've seen that.

Quote from: dd on August 11, 2025, 04:52:23 AMIf the refs didn't call the push off on us, they likely won't call the push off when someone does it to one of our DBs.

Quote from: dd on August 11, 2025, 04:52:23 AMIf the refs didn't call the push off on us, they likely won't call the push off when someone does it to one of our DBs.

Quote from: Pete on August 11, 2025, 02:27:39 PMOur oline was an issue in pass protection all night, on 2nd and long everyone knew theyd blitz yet we did nothing different(other than 1 play to brady)
How do we not have hot routes? Ever watch Harris or even Adams ? Do we bring in an extra fb or oline, heck we sure wouldn't miss one less reciever based on production.
 Can castillo play reciever?

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 11, 2025, 04:22:17 AMConfirmed my live take: on the deep pass to Brady, Brady commits blatant OPI with a completely-extended left arm to push back the DB, and right as the ball arrives.

I can get a great still of this to prove it should there be doubters.

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on August 11, 2025, 02:04:43 PMImagine only scoring four points in a quarter. FOUR.

Hogan's out to lunch.

Quote from: bluengold204 on August 11, 2025, 03:20:19 PMEven worse it was 4 points in the entire second half.

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on August 11, 2025, 03:53:08 PM(https://y.yarn.co/01a2f2d3-708d-4588-a7f6-b53cf6c1c5ff_text.gif)

Meant to put half, not quarter.

Sentiment remains the same, though. I'm over Hogan and this pathetic excuse of an offense.

Quote from: theaardvark on August 11, 2025, 04:05:59 PMHe's dealing with RB injuries, Oline injuries, QB injuries, REC injuries.

No week has he had the same players as the week before, and some big names are missing for some of those losses.

I'm not excusing the mistakes, just saying, this is not an easy job in the first place, he's a rookie at it, and has had a lot of adversity to deal with.

I'm willing to give him a little time to figure things out.

Quote from: Jesse on August 11, 2025, 04:13:51 PMWe have no choice, but it again begs the question, why are we letting someone figure out the job in a Grey Cup year?

Quote from: theaardvark on August 11, 2025, 04:05:59 PMHe's dealing with RB injuries, Oline injuries, QB injuries, REC injuries.

No week has he had the same players as the week before, and some big names are missing for some of those losses.

I'm not excusing the mistakes, just saying, this is not an easy job in the first place, he's a rookie at it, and has had a lot of adversity to deal with.

I'm willing to give him a little time to figure things out.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 11, 2025, 02:03:17 AMOur FS has been pretty invisible in the pass game for 2-3 seasons now.  Our FS is always coming up to help the run escapes.

How many times in '24 did you see BA in the picture on a pass explosion.  Like never.  And Parker this season?  Like never.

Give Kelly some credit: he's in the picture on all these explosions.  That means he has a better nose for the ball than the other guys!

And again: If your FS is the only one in the picture on a SB/WR on a deep route, then some other DB screwed up.  Kelly is never to be alone with a SB/WR by design.

Quote from: theaardvark on August 11, 2025, 04:05:59 PMHe's dealing with RB injuries, Oline injuries, QB injuries, REC injuries.

No week has he had the same players as the week before, and some big names are missing for some of those losses.

I'm not excusing the mistakes, just saying, this is not an easy job in the first place, he's a rookie at it, and has had a lot of adversity to deal with.

I'm willing to give him a little time to figure things out.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 11, 2025, 05:04:04 PMThe folks writing off Hogan can't see the forest through the trees.  Seen this story before when we hired MOS and Hall.  They learned slowly and became great. 

Quote from: Waffler on August 11, 2025, 05:25:13 PMWe didn't hire MOS and Hall. MOS brought Gary Etcheverry with him as DC and he was terrible and got worse from there. His OC hire was no better with the immortal Marcel Bellefeuille.

Hall came the next year and as with LaPo we were lucky they were available. Buck was ok as a successor but that may have been luck too as promoting from within is the MOS way. As Techno keeps pleading for we need fresh voices here.

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 11, 2025, 05:25:23 PMI get there is a lot of self reflection going on, and rightfully so, but it's so CFL that we've played 8 games against 4 teams. Calgary X3, Toronto X2, BC X2 and Edmonton X1

Calgary is clearly a better team than us, they beat us three straight, and we lost a rain soaked game in Toronto.

Lots of room for us to grow but a different schedule and we might have a different record. Let's see how things go from here.

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on August 11, 2025, 04:47:30 PMThis is the year the WFC is hosting the Grey Cup, and they chose to promote from within instead of finding the best candidate.

I'm not interested in hearing excuses; all teams deal with injuries. I'm also not interested in watching what appears to be an incompetent rookie OC try to figure out if he can hack it or not.

Hogan ain't it.

Quote from: theaardvark on August 11, 2025, 06:37:44 PMFront Office $SMS hamstrings you from "hiring the best".  It's more "hiring the best that fits into your cap".

We have MOS at the top, we have Younger and Hall on the D, all no doubt getting paid well.  And Walters in that $SMS too.

So, getting the top OC possible might not have been in the budget.  Not sure what the Front Office $SMS budget overages penalties are, but guessing they are similar to the roster $SMS penalties.

So we got Jarious Jackson to have a veteran assistant on the staff.  Not sure he would have been the top choice for OC outright, but you can bet the cost is much lower as QB coach.

Its not so simple when there is cap involved.  And who was out there available once Buck left?  Maksymic?  Doing great in Edm... Who else?

Quote from: theaardvark on August 11, 2025, 06:37:44 PMFront Office $SMS hamstrings you from "hiring the best".  It's more "hiring the best that fits into your cap".

We have MOS at the top, we have Younger and Hall on the D, all no doubt getting paid well.  And Walters in that $SMS too.

So, getting the top OC possible might not have been in the budget.  Not sure what the Front Office $SMS budget overages penalties are, but guessing they are similar to the roster $SMS penalties.

So we got Jarious Jackson to have a veteran assistant on the staff.  Not sure he would have been the top choice for OC outright, but you can bet the cost is much lower as QB coach.

Its not so simple when there is cap involved.  And who was out there available once Buck left?  Maksymic?  Doing great in Edm... Who else?

Quote from: Jesse on August 11, 2025, 09:40:14 PMObviously when we hired MOS, we were a developing team and the plan was to be patient. Very much not the case right now.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 11, 2025, 10:10:38 PMDisagree that we can't be patient now.  It's what makes organizations great over the long term.  Stay the course, don't over react.  Develop players and coaches for the medium and long term.  Draft well, slowly develop talent, don't mortgage your future for the present.  It's how I would run a club.  I don't want one more good year, I want another good decade. 

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 11, 2025, 10:20:43 PMIf that was true a team couldn't reload over the course of a season like Hamilton and Calgary. Staying the course doesn't always work.

It's not an over reaction to see we have stayed the course and digressed with our recruitment of imports and both nationalities in free agency. Cutting veterans is difficult but every year it happens.

Nobody wants to mortgage the future for the present ( well maybe there are some ). A few want to spend and extra $1M this year although they haven't come up with where we'd spend it on new players.

Suggesting you want another decade is unrealistic. Players leave, coaches leave, injuries happen. There is no guaranteed way to even know what 2026 will look like on any roster. 1 year contracts don't help.

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 11, 2025, 10:33:16 PMI believe the Bomber organization has an opportunity to continue our great run.  Hard to continue at the pace we are at but I see a club that has built something special.  Kind of like what Calgary did when  they didn't miss the playoffs for so long.  This is what I want.

I was mostly talking about staying the course on Hogan.  Yes spend a little cash to shore up our backend D.  Maybe find a receiver if Schoen is out.

Some wanted us to make a splash in FA, over spend on SMS and run for the cup.  I am less cup focused (this year) and wanting to ensure we do things that ensure a legacy for years to come.  It's what got us here.

Another decade of good to great clubs is hard, but not impossible with the right leadership and long term vision.

My biggest goal would he rebuild the OL and secure a future QB or two.  Keep building our Cdn talent. 

Before our mini dynasty things sucked in Bomberville for a long time.  I really want to avoid that.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 11, 2025, 10:20:43 PMNobody wants to mortgage the future for the present ( well maybe there are some ). A few want to spend and extra $1M this year although they haven't come up with where we'd spend it on new players.