I am hoping a healthy ZC8 is back. Also hoping to see Dexter Lawson get into the line up. SB66 was moving well on the sidelines, he might be close. Monday's practice should update us on our injuries.
I'm expecting we might see some significant changes again for this game. In theory we'll get Collaros back. Byrant has missed 3 games so he could be back. How that changes the OL configuration is a TBD. Anything from Lofton back at RT and Vanterpool back at LG are in the realm of possible decisions.
Peterson should be back in for Cooley as the back up RB so that will flip the ratio. I'm not sure what the domino affect will be, but we'd have to bounce a Canadian and decide what import takes the DI spot.
Lawson in for Parker if he can't play or is there a different shuffle in the secondary with Allen coming in at safety?
Makonzo was extended on the 6 game IR but is healthy in theory. He might be a choice but who does he replace on the Canadian portion of the roster. Cobb would be another choice that could go back to PR.
Just noting that might be Hallett as his role seems less with Kelly and Ball now on the roster playing on ST's. Kelly was also playing on defence.
Makonzo might be useful in rotation at SAM with injuries and issues in the secondary. We might see another week of various players moving around whether Parker plays or not? I'd like to see him added to the AR.
Maybe it's time to give McLoud a chance at WR in place of Clercius who would become depth. That makes Cobb a bit expendable and bumped back to PR?
If any of that happens, then Mitchell should be released outright.
I can think of 2 others on the PR I'd release. Need to bring in a few new faces as NFL starts trimming rosters.
It's just a question of WHEN (not if) some other team picks up Mitchell now that he is on the PR making $500 a week. Likely to be a team we play soon.
McCleod is nowhere near ready. What's he had? 6 or 7 practices? With few reps I might add. He's still learning. Probably never saw a CFL game in person until last night. Not saying he won't play, but it will be later rather than sooner. That is MOS's way.
Quote from: Waffler on August 02, 2025, 05:17:06 PMIt's just a question of WHEN (not if) some other team picks up Mitchell now that he is on the PR making $500 a week. Likely to be a team we play soon.
McCleod is nowhere near ready. What's he had? 6 or 7 practices? With few reps I might add. He's still learning. Probably never saw a CFL game in person until last night. Not saying he won't play, but it will be later rather than sooner. That is MOS's way.
Teams can play PR player whatever they want. He might still be making his regular checks.
Quote from: Jesse on August 02, 2025, 05:19:20 PMTeams can play PR player whatever they want. He might still be making his regular checks.
Mitchell was making full pay on the 1 game, there was no reason to send him to the PR unless they want to cut his salary and send a message. Media telegraphing Mitchell is under-performing in practice, MOS is not going to put up with a lack of effort or poor attention to detail.
Doug Brown told a hilarious story about Elfrid Payton on the CJOB pre-game show, apparently he did not like to practice at all.
Quote from: Waffler on August 02, 2025, 05:17:06 PMIt's just a question of WHEN (not if) some other team picks up Mitchell now that he is on the PR making $500 a week. Likely to be a team we play soon.
McCleod is nowhere near ready. What's he had? 6 or 7 practices? With few reps I might add. He's still learning. Probably never saw a CFL game in person until last night. Not saying he won't play, but it will be later rather than sooner. That is MOS's way.
We don't know that and as I suggested we got ZERO from Clercius last night and not much this season. Can he stretch the defence and catch? He had 54 TD's in college. If another team wants Mitchell they can have him IMO. We don't seem interested in playing him. This week is game 8.
Clercius may have a future but in the last 3 games he has 3 receptions for 29 yards in total. If McCloud can run a straight line down the sidelines and take a DB with him, that's all we need him to do at the minimum. We need more speed at receiver that will stretch the secondary.
If Collaros returns then Artopoleus goes back to PR and roster space is needed. Although Dawson and Peterson are probably going to AR this week.
Looking forward to see how Streveler does against that Stamps. Going to be a big test for him but the entire team's compete level rises when he starts. We are in good hands.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 02, 2025, 05:52:54 PMWe don't know that and as I suggested we got ZERO from Clercius last night and not much this season. Can he stretch the defence and catch? He had 54 TD's in college. If another team wants Mitchell they can have him IMO. We don't seem interested in playing him. This week is game 8.
Clercius may have a future but in the last 3 games he has 3 receptions for 29 yards in total. If McCloud can run a straight line down the sidelines and take a DB with him, that's all we need him to do at the minimum. We need more speed at receiver that will stretch the secondary.
You're underplaying Clercius contribution by just looking at the stats sheet, he is heavily involved in blocking on almost every play, be it run or pass, as is MCI. Both play key roles in sustaining drives especially when Brady is the focus. Yes it would be nice to get more receptions out of him, but he is performing a thankless but critical job with no fanfare.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 02, 2025, 06:33:41 PMYou're underplaying Clercius contribution by just looking at the stats sheet, he is heavily involved in blocking on almost every play, be it run or pass, as is MCI. Both play key roles in sustaining drives especially when Brady is the focus. Yes it would be nice to get more receptions out of him, but he is performing a thankless but critical job with no fanfare.
No I'm not. What drives? I'm looking at the overall output of the offence with whichever QB plays. I like Clercius but a receiver has to be active as a receiver too. He's not doing that. Play calling, QB and OL are part of the equation but our receiving group has not been good.
At some point, we have to consider a change. I had already suggested moving him inside to slot and putting an import receiver at WR. If his contribution is blocking than he should be able to do that at SB.
Two games against the Argos ( worst defence in CFL ): 400 yards in total 33 / 49 completions, 1 TD and 5 picks over those 2 games. In the last game only 173 yards passing and a lot of that was great YAC by Demski and Oliveria.
Few seem to want to blame Streveler. It's both QB but the receivers are not up to par.
Quote from: Strevy on August 02, 2025, 06:24:09 PMLooking forward to see how Streveler does against that Stamps. Going to be a big test for him but the entire team's compete level rises when he starts. We are in good hands.
If Collaros is healthy he ll start and play and Strev will be our SY Qb. If Collaros can't go then we ll see another 100 yd passing game with 3 picks from strev
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 02, 2025, 06:40:57 PMNo I'm not. What drives? I'm looking at the overall output of the offence with whichever QB plays. I like Clercius but a receiver has to be active as a receiver too. He's not doing that. Play calling, QB and OL are part of the equation but our receiving group has not been good.
At some point, we have to consider a change. I had already suggested moving him inside to slot and putting an import receiver at WR. If his contribution is blocking than he should be able to do that at SB.
Two games against the Argos ( worst defence in CFL ): 400 yards in total 33 / 49 completions, 1 TD and 5 picks over those 2 games. In the last game only 173 yards passing and a lot of that was great YAC by Demski and Oliveria.
Few seem to want to blame Streveler. It's both QB but the receivers are not up to par.
You're too quick to throw the baby out with the bathwater in search of a quick solution. Both the QB and receivers as a group are under-performing, personnel change isn't the only solution. The important drives I'm referring to are the Bully Ball drives they use to grind down the clock, like the last one Strev orchestrated until he threw the interception in the endzone.
Quote from: dd on August 02, 2025, 07:13:56 PMIf Collaros is healthy he ll start and play and Strev will be our SY Qb. If Collaros can't go then we ll see another 100 yd passing game with 3 picks from strev
And have a chance to win. Zach was absolutely horrible against the Stamps back to back. Strevy is 2-0 in his starts this season and we beat BC by more when he played.
Streveler is better and it's not even close. That's not a bad thing. Exciting times in BB land.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 02, 2025, 07:26:34 PMYou're too quick to throw the baby out with the bathwater in search of a quick solution. Both the QB and receivers as a group are under-performing, personnel change isn't the only solution. The important drives I'm referring to are the Bully Ball drives they use to grind down the clock, like the last one Strev orchestrated until he threw the interception in the endzone.
If a defence thinks a QB can't beat them passing then they load the box and take away the run game. Oliveria had 17 runs for 50 yards. That's the predicament that Streveler puts the offence in.
Having one relatively successful " drive " is not adequate. That drive was Oliveria and Demski taking the game on their shoulders with extraordinary effort.
We had 173 yards passing and 50 yards rushing from BO. 30 yards from Demski including a key 20 yard play. That's hardly a game where we sustained drives to a great extent. 1 offensive TD and 4 FG's
I'm not looking for a quick solution. We lost 3 games in a row and were vastly out played. Last night we won because of 2 return TD's and a defence TD. Even then we nearly found ways to let the Argos back in the game because we couldn't sustain drives.
As I pointed out Corcoran had 2 catches for 16 yards and Clercius had none.
What was our TOP and how many 1st downs compared to Toronto?
Quote from: Strevy on August 02, 2025, 07:36:08 PMAnd have a chance to win. Zach was absolutely horrible against the Stamps back to back. Strevy is 2-0 in his starts this season and we beat BC by more when he played.
Streveler is better and it's not even close. That's not a bad thing. Exciting times in BB land.
d
did you get Streveler confused with arbuckle?
Quote from: Pete on August 02, 2025, 11:33:37 PMd
did you get Streveler confused with arbuckle?
No, you sound very confused though. Maybe have a nap?
How is it Walter's didn't bring Hollins in to help out our pitiful receiving corps?? You want a bonafide deep threat with cfl experience he's it. Instead we bring McLeod with zero pro or cfl experience. I Just don't get it.Montreal who was strong to begin with just got waaaay better while we will continue to struggle.
And riders picked up big bodied NAT Tommy Neld, don't you think we could use him in our lineup. Nope go 'off the board' and bring in McLeod. Teams are strengthening their receiving corps , while we have yet to establish one!!
How many catches and yards did wheat field, corocan and clercius have?? 2-3 combined?? Teams are just going to focus on shutting the run down and doubling demski and we got nothing offensively
yeah Strevy but your comment on streveler was even more confusing after watching Strevs performance against toronto, (you think Zac wouldn't have won with 2 kr tds and a defensive td?)
but then again maybe not as your obviously a strev fanboy
Quote from: Pete on August 02, 2025, 11:49:08 PMyeah Strevy but your comment on streveler was even more confusing after watching Strevs performance against toronto, (you think Zac wouldn't have won with 2 kr tds and a defensive td?)
but then again maybe not as your obviously a strev fanboy
The team would have been flat and we would have been throttled like the last three games if Zach started. The entire team's compete level rises when Streveler plays. Dude is a firecracker 🧨.
The level of blind pumping Strev's tires on here by one of our newest member of this forum is way over the top imo
I love all our Qbs but need to have balance when discussing their play imo
Don't feed the Strevy troll.
Quote from: TBURGESS on August 03, 2025, 01:09:27 AMDon't feed the Strevy troll.
Exactly. Every one of his troll like posts are outrageous and ridiculous, just ignore them
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 03, 2025, 12:45:59 AMThe level of blind pumping Strev's tires on here by one of our newest member of this forum is way over the top imo
I love all our Qbs but need to have balance when discussing their play imo
Once again nobody cares what you think. What ever happened to 'discussing football?'. All you do is try and tell people how they should post and think. Your knowledge of the game is limited at best so I can see why but sit back and learn. Once you understand you will be able to contribute something other than gossip about other contributors.
Quote from: Strevy on August 03, 2025, 12:21:51 AMThe team would have been flat and we would have been throttled like the last three games if Zach started. The entire team's compete level rises when Streveler plays. Dude is a firecracker 🧨.
While I do have an appreciation for what Streveler brings to the game I do not feel he is starter quality and also IMHO believe that he can not and will not be our starting QB in the once Zach returns.
We signed a new import OL. That's not a particular surprise but I do have some concern on whether that suggests Bryant might be gone for an extended time. I was hoping he would be back this week, but nothing is certain.
Vanterpool is also nicked so there may not be any immediate depth for a week or more?
Regardless I can imagine the PR will be shuffled to add this new OL. It's very likely a few others will be headed back to the PR, so we might see some cuts to make room.
Injuries, injuries. Here is my guess / hope for roster changes for this game. Everything depends on health of several players. Noting this is all guess work without knowing who will be practising this week.
Just food for thought and discussions.
1. Byrant back at LT
2. Lofton back at RT, Randolph moved to 1 game IR?
3. Peterson added to AR. Cooley back to PR.
4. Makonzo added to AR. Hallett moved to 1 game IR.
5. Collaros added to AR. Artopoeus moved to PR
Possible changes depending on health of Parker and Vanterpool.
1. Lawson added to AR to play at CB
2. Parker back to safety and all of last week's shuffle back to original roles with new experience.
3. Vanterpool at LG.
This is a change in ratio but could happen with Cooley back to PR. Starting 3 Canadian receivers could allow 3 import OL.
I think Hallett has moved down the depth chart with the return of Kelly. IMO having Makonzo gives us Canadian depth at SAM and elsewhere.
J. Jones had 2 ST's in his 1st game back. That might make Ayers less important on the AR, but unless Woods is a candidate to move TO AR, it may not be an issue.
Quote from: Strevy on August 02, 2025, 06:24:09 PMLooking forward to see how Streveler does against that Stamps. Going to be a big test for him but the entire team's compete level rises when he starts. We are in good hands.
Sure, I am sure Vaval can have another two return TDs and the D can add a TD as well.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 03, 2025, 05:36:32 PMInjuries, injuries. Here is my guess / hope for roster changes for this game. Everything depends on health of several players. Noting this is all guess work without knowing who will be practising this week.
Just food for thought and discussions.
1. Byrant back at LT
2. Lofton back at RT, Randolph moved to 1 game IR?
3. Peterson added to AR. Cooley back to PR.
4. Makonzo added to AR. Hallett moved to 1 game IR.
5. Collaros added to AR. Artopoeus moved to PR
Possible changes depending on health of Parker and Vanterpool.
1. Lawson added to AR to play at CB
2. Parker back to safety and all of last week's shuffle back to original roles with new experience.
3. Vanterpool at LG.
This is a change in ratio but could happen with Cooley back to PR. Starting 3 Canadian receivers could allow 3 import OL.
I think Hallett has moved down the depth chart with the return of Kelly. IMO having Makonzo gives us Canadian depth at SAM and elsewhere.
J. Jones had 2 ST's in his 1st game back. That might make Ayers less important on the AR, but unless Woods is a candidate to move TO AR, it may not be an issue.
Would be nice to see Bryant and Zach back this week. Hallett isn't coming out for Makonzo. Peterson in for Cooley, probably. Cooley had a rough game. Cam Allen could draw in and play safety, or Lawson replaces Parker. Can't see Parker back this week.
Three top STs players Ayres, Cad, Smith, with Hallett right behind them.
Ian Leroux has been outstanding replacing 38 year old Benson.
Boys should get a full week of practice in this week. Lots of time to figure things out.
I haven't noticed Hallett on ST's lately. J. Jones and Kelly were both working on ST's in the last game. That's why I suggested a switch.
Yeah I get the love for Ayers but again J. Jones had more of an impact in his 1st game. Who were the two players that weren't being used on ST's that they replaced? He hasn't had 2 ST's since week 1. J. Jones also so some reps on defence, so I'm thinking a possible transition if we need to change the ratio.
IDK that Woods is available but if I had a choice as a DI I'd pick Woods over Ayers now that J. Jones is on the AR.
Cooley didn't have a great game but there was no reason to add him against the Argos. Peterson will be added to give us other options with our ratio. Neither RB will see the field much if Brady doesn't get hurt.
Makonzo if healthy is probably good enough to start at SAM or possibly even safety. I'm not suggesting that but that's an improvement over Hallett as depth on the AR. It's not clear whether they'll add him after extending him on 6 game IR.
For what its worth here are the changes I'd like to see:
add Petersen
add Mitchell or Mcleod
add Cam Allen to rotate in at safety , we need to see what he can do before its a situation we have to put him in with no experience
add Bryant (if healthy) and go with 3 import oline
to pr/1 game
Ayers (adding Allen gives us another for special teams)
Jones (if Bryant cant go then keep Jones on active roster)
Cooley
Corcoran
if Parker is injured add dexter Lawson
Quote from: Pete on August 03, 2025, 09:59:57 PMFor what its worth here are the changes I'd like to see:
add Petersen
add Mitchell or Mcleod
add Cam Allen to rotate in at safety , we need to see what he can do before its a situation we have to put him in with no experience
add Bryant (if healthy) and go with 3 import oline
to pr/1 game
Ayers (adding Allen gives us another for special teams)
Jones (if Bryant cant go then keep Jones on active roster)
Cooley
Corcoran
if Parker is injured add dexter Lawson
No need for Allen yet imo
Kelly is way ahead of him for now and he needs reps 1st
Played ok imo seen him in what looked like doube safety sets (guessing)
Not really interested in Mitchell at this stage
I want Woods on but DL was ace so maybe let that simmer 1st
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 03, 2025, 10:43:30 PMNo need for Allen yet imo
Kelly is way ahead of him for now and he needs reps 1st
Played ok imo seen him in what looked like doube safety sets (guessing)
Not really interested in Mitchell at this stage
I want Woods on but DL was ace so maybe let that simmer 1st
We might be able to get Woods on if he's healthy because we're starting at least 8 Canadians, maybe nine if you count the DT's. At least I think I have the ratio options sorted out.
Lawson for Parker if necessary is a one for one. Same for Bryant versus one of the other OL.
It's the taking Cooley off that gives us a spot for an import. He replaced Case as the other import after we switched to 3 Canadian receivers.
I think that gives us a few options.
1. 3 import OL if they are all healthy but that's not certain.
2. Adding Woods if he's healthy
3. Adding Allen as a back up but not as a starter.
4. Adding an import receiver. Choose one. LOL
5. Leave Cooley on the AR.
Since most agree an import receiver is unlikely that leaves the other 3 options. Options 1 # 2 are dictated by health and if they aren't viable, then the other options are where we have to choose.
Of those 3 I think adding Allen is the best left available. I don't think they'd add Bridges back quite yet. Woodbey over Allen? He's more LB than DB so I don't see that happening.
All of this comes not down to need but best choice available at the moment. I'd choose 3 import OL if we have healthy bodies.
Looking at my list I think that's my ranking even though that wasn't my intent. It just worked out that way.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 03, 2025, 11:20:19 PMWe might be able to get Woods on if he's healthy because we're starting at least 8 Canadians, maybe nine if you count the DT's. At least I think I have the ratio options sorted out.
Lawson for Parker if necessary is a one for one. Same for Bryant versus one of the other OL.
It's the taking Cooley off that gives us a spot for an import. He replaced Case as the other import after we switched to 3 Canadian receivers.
I think that gives us a few options.
1. 3 import OL if they are all healthy but that's not certain.
2. Adding Woods if he's healthy
3. Adding Allen as a back up but not as a starter.
4. Adding an import receiver. Choose one. LOL
5. Leave Cooley on the AR.
Since most agree an import receiver is unlikely that leaves the other 3 options. Options 1 # 2 are dictated by health and if they aren't viable, then the other options are where we have to choose.
Of those 3 I think adding Allen is the best left available. I don't think they'd add Bridges back quite yet. Woodbey over Allen? He's more LB than DB so I don't see that happening.
All of this comes not down to need but best choice available at the moment. I'd choose 3 import OL if we have healthy bodies.
Looking at my list I think that's my ranking even though that wasn't my intent. It just worked out that way.
1
2
4
5
3
Quote from: dd on August 03, 2025, 01:51:49 AMExactly. Every one of his troll like posts are outrageous and ridiculous, just ignore them
There used to be a guy that only posted about a terrible quarterback... demanded he played.... I forget the qb name, he was not good.
Eventually the poster wore out his welcome, (mbb) and got turfed. Which takes a lot at that forum, which tolerates a lot of b.s..
There is a strong similarity ("strevy") to that person.
Quote from: markf on August 04, 2025, 12:38:43 AMThere used to be a guy that only posted about a terrible quarterback... demanded he played.... I forget the qb name, he was not good.
Eventually the poster wore out his welcome, (mbb) and got turfed. Which takes a lot at that forum, which tolerates a lot of b.s..
There is a strong similarity ("strevy") to that person.
I'm going by memory, which is always dangerous at my age, but there was a poster "road griller", and if I recall he was a big fan of Justin Goltz.
Quote from: bunker on August 04, 2025, 01:02:42 AMI'm going by memory, which is always dangerous at my age, but there was a poster "road griller", and if I recall he was a big fan of Justin Goltz.
I remember road Griller lol
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 04, 2025, 01:17:32 AMI remember road Griller lol
Yup. Road griller. That's the person.
Quote from: RebusRankin on August 03, 2025, 06:41:05 PMSure, I am sure Vaval can have another two return TDs and the D can add a TD as well.
Or someone else can step up. The team is different when Streveler is under center. No question there. Who will be our next hero? Stay tuned!
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 02, 2025, 03:49:17 PMJust noting that might be Hallett as his role seems less with Kelly and Ball now on the roster playing on ST's. Kelly was also playing on defence.
Nah, Hallett will remain. How can you possibly justify Ball over Hallett? Hallett has great top speed and maybe best-on-team burst/acceleration. And he knows the teams real well.
Think beyond coverage. Hallett will make the
special special teams work. That, and I see nothing to indicate he's gotten himself in the dog house.
The key to everything will be VAJ still missing. That would be a boon for us. The whole CGY team was discombobulated without VAJ. Doubly so if Zach is still out.
Plus, I'd hope our coords were coming up with some special plans to attack CGY's weaknesses. They did a pretty good job figuring out how to beat the Arbuckle dink & dunk (which will help vs SSK, too!).
Much better air quality today in Winnipeg. Should be open practice Monday and Tuesday.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 04, 2025, 10:17:48 AMThe key to everything will be VAJ still missing. That would be a boon for us. The whole CGY team was discombobulated without VAJ. Doubly so if Zach is still out.
Plus, I'd hope our coords were coming up with some special plans to attack CGY's weaknesses. They did a pretty good job figuring out how to beat the Arbuckle dink & dunk (which will help vs SSK, too!).
I fully expect VAJ to play. Need our new look defence to shut him down and our offence to hold onto the ball.
Quote from: Pigskin on August 04, 2025, 12:25:27 PMMuch better air quality today in Winnipeg. Should be open practice Monday and Tuesday.
I assumed they work Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Nothing posted yet anyway.
No coaches show tonight, that's Tuesday this week.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 04, 2025, 10:14:40 AMNah, Hallett will remain. How can you possibly justify Ball over Hallett? Hallett has great top speed and maybe best-on-team burst/acceleration. And he knows the teams real well.
Think beyond coverage. Hallett will make the special special teams work. That, and I see nothing to indicate he's gotten himself in the dog house.
Easy. As I said, all of J. Jones, Kelly and Ball were on coverage teams against the Argos. I didn't say anything about being in the doghouse. I said he seems to have lost his role as a rotational player on defence and may be seeing his duty on ST's diminished. He didn't record an ST in either Argo game.
It's difficult to see who was replaced on ST's on TV but it's reasonable to think Hallett could have been one. Maybe someone at the game can give more information. Maybe he got nicked in the early going.
Either way I'm looking for which Canadian might come off if and when Makonzo is ready. IMO he is a good option to get on the AR with the ability to be a strong rotational or even starter if we have an injury. I don't think we signed him to not play when healthy.
Nothing against Hallett except succession plan and the size of the roster. I'm not specifically opposed to moving Ball back to PR but did he actually replace Hallett on St's or was this just a test? Noting he was on ST's covering J. Grant.
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 04, 2025, 12:31:59 AM1
2
4
5
3
Normally I'd bump up the # 4 receiver choice too. If they didn't add Mitchell last week, he may never see the field. Others thought the rookie on the PR isn't ready. Using Corcoran gives us a ratio option that the import receiver doesn't.
Looking at the low productivity of our offence does make you wonder what we'll do this week if we have healthy options.
You choosing Cooley ahead of Allen is interesting. We saw that Cooley only had a couple of reps on ST's and wasn't used on offence. If they decide to get him involved on offence that might make sense. OTOH, Allen could see reps in rotation.
Although Cooley didn't do well on fielding kicks, he was on the return team that had 2 return TD's. I don't know specifically but maybe he made some good blocks to spring Vaval. That seems less probable but perhaps he did well in that aspect of play. Would be interesting to know who he replaced in that role.
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 04, 2025, 01:17:32 AMI remember road Griller lol
Yes but if you are a real pro and long termer you will remember "Nasty Nate" ! ;D
Looks like we're practising today. Hopefully we'll see what's happening on the injury front: Collaros, Bryant, Vanterpool and Parker in particular.
Quote from: BBRT on August 04, 2025, 02:54:12 PMYes but if you are a real pro and long termer you will remember "Nasty Nate" ! ;D
Careful, I hear saying his name is like saying Bettlejuice.
Early reports say Collaros and Bryant both practising today. That's a relief.
Logan also practising but I can't see him being added with the way Vaval is playing.
D. Mitchell is with the 1st team receivers today?? Didn't expect that.
Ed Tait
@EdTaitWFC
·
1h
Zach Collaros on the field as the @Wpg_BlueBombers open their practice week. So, too, is Stanley Bryant
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 04, 2025, 05:17:42 PMEarly reports say Collaros and Bryant both practising today. That's a relief.
Logan also practising but I can't see him being added with the way Vaval is playing.
D. Mitchell is with the 1st team receivers today?? Didn't expect that.
Bryant practicing but Lofton spelling him at times. Vanterpool is also participating but Wallace working with the first team. Mitchell got reps with the ones and twos.
Mitchell and Logan also getting the bulk of the returning reps with Vaval at CB.
Quote from: Jesse on August 04, 2025, 05:31:50 PMMitchell and Logan also getting the bulk of the returning reps with Vaval at CB.
Pretty sure coming out of TC Cam Allen was considered the top rookie DB find, Vaval's spot on the AR depends more on his ability as a kick returner. The only way Logan gets on now is if he takes over Cooley's temp. spot as the secondary returner, which is a role that is pretty hard to justify.
From DTonOB
Looks like the newly-re-signed Dexter Lawson is the front runner at corner with Jamal Parker's injury.
Quote from: BBRT on August 04, 2025, 02:54:12 PMYes but if you are a real pro and long termer you will remember "Nasty Nate" ! ;D
He is still around on the CFL forums – posts as Lyle_B_Style. He has lost some of his edge but he still makes up nicknames for several players and coaches. He also makes up a lot of history and stats based on what his foggy memory misremembers.
Does he still have his bookstore? I still have to claim a book that I won for answering one of his trivia contests from back in the OB days.
Practice notes – from local media
@DTonOBDay 1 of Bombers practice...
Zach Collaros is dressed and working.
And, it's super early, but
Dillon Mitchell is with the first group of receivers
For those interested Mitchell is playing in the slot.
LT
Stanley Bryant has returned to practice after missing three games.
And LS
Mike Benson is back in uniform for the first time since the season opener,
Nic Demski is wearing
Dalton Schoen's jersey #83.
And
Peyton Logan is dressed for the first time since camp.
Jamal Parker on a crutch supporting his right leg. He injured his right knee last season and missed the year.
DB
Redha Kramdi not dressed.
And
Dalton Schoen has been running sprints on the sideline away from the team.
DT
Jamal Woods practicing today. His stint on the 6-game is over.
And DT
Cam Lawson is not dressed for today. Same for DB
Enock Makonzo who went on a 2nd 6-game stint.
Looks like newly re-signed
Dexter Lawson is the front runner at corner with
Jamal Parker's injury.
@jfreysam (Free Press)
Lots to note at #Bombers practice on this holiday Monday.
Not practicing –
Cam Lawson, Redha Kramdi, Jamal Parker Jr. (walking with a crutch).
Dalton Schoen was running routes himself earlier
Practising –
Zach Collaros, Mike Benson, Peyton Logan, Stanley Bryant, Jamal Woods@EdTait
Zach Collaros on the field the @Wpg_BlueBombers open their practice week. So, too, is
Stanley BryantThere's more... DT
Jamal Woods and RB
Peyton Logan practicing:
Redha Kramdi and
Cam Lawson are not
Jamal Parker walking with a crutch,
Micah Vanterpool back
Trey Vaval at CB:
Dillon Mitchell getting reps with starters
Quote from: Stats Junkie on August 04, 2025, 07:57:56 PMPractice notes – from local media
@DTonOB
Day 1 of Bombers practice...Zach Collaros is dressed and working.
And, it's super early, but Dillon Mitchell is with the first group of receivers
For those interested Mitchell is playing in the slot.
LT Stanley Bryant has returned to practice after missing three games.
And LS Mike Benson is back in uniform for the first time since the season opener,
Nic Demski is wearing Dalton Schoen's jersey #83.
And Peyton Logan is dressed for the first time since camp.
Jamal Parker on a crutch supporting his right leg. He injured his right knee last season and missed the year.
DB Redha Kramdi not dressed.
And Dalton Schoen has been running sprints on the sideline away from the team.
DT Jamal Woods practicing today. His stint on the 6-game is over.
And DT Cam Lawson is not dressed for today. Same for DB Enock Makonzo who went on a 2nd 6-game stint.
Looks like newly re-signed Dexter Lawson is the front runner at corner with Jamal Parker's injury.
@jfreysam (Free Press)
Lots to note at #Bombers practice on this holiday Monday.
Not practicing – Cam Lawson, Redha Kramdi, Jamal Parker Jr. (walking with a crutch).
Dalton Schoen was running routes himself earlier
Practising – Zach Collaros, Mike Benson, Peyton Logan, Stanley Bryant, Jamal Woods
@EdTait
Zach Collaros on the field the @Wpg_BlueBombers open their practice week. So, too, is Stanley Bryant
There's more... DT Jamal Woods and RB Peyton Logan practicing: Redha Kramdi and Cam Lawson are not
Jamal Parker walking with a crutch, Micah Vanterpool back
Trey Vaval at CB: Dillon Mitchell getting reps with starters
A lot of good news today.
Nice to see SB66 and ZC8 are back.
Lawson in for Parker. A little bigger more physical DB.
DS83 running means he's close to a return.
Logan in for Cooley. Logan and Vaval returning KO, could be very interesting.
Mitchell, did he finally figure it out.
Woods return to the field is good for DL.
Quote from: BBRT on August 04, 2025, 02:54:12 PMYes but if you are a real pro and long termer you will remember "Nasty Nate" ! ;D
Yeah that's awesome I do! We should create a thread of classic members who didn't last long to secure their legacy
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 04, 2025, 01:51:46 PMNormally I'd bump up the # 4 receiver choice too. If they didn't add Mitchell last week, he may never see the field. Others thought the rookie on the PR isn't ready. Using Corcoran gives us a ratio option that the import receiver doesn't.
Looking at the low productivity of our offence does make you wonder what we'll do this week if we have healthy options.
You choosing Cooley ahead of Allen is interesting. We saw that Cooley only had a couple of reps on ST's and wasn't used on offence. If they decide to get him involved on offence that might make sense. OTOH, Allen could see reps in rotation.
Although Cooley didn't do well on fielding kicks, he was on the return team that had 2 return TD's. I don't know specifically but maybe he made some good blocks to spring Vaval. That seems less probable but perhaps he did well in that aspect of play. Would be interesting to know who he replaced in that role.
I didn't like that we didn't use Cooley, I wanted to see him late in the game and run over a tired defense, now that we got other bodies back he goes way down my list for priority, they might have put him on last week and they knew he wouldn't see the field for a bit with the guys getting healthy
Game just didn't go that way
I'm high on Allen but as you know I like to slow roast our prospects
Not worried about our receiving core, I think they will be ok but very interesting to see Mitchell getting reps here
I want to see Cobb get a few balls, he might have a tough time making the lineup this week, did anyone see him get reps?
Agree with your take on receiver, after a few weeks of not seeing things the same way at times I believe we are closer to being on the same page as of late
I am very nervous with Cooley as a returner, good point though maybe he helped block, didn't notice
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 04, 2025, 08:22:48 PMI didn't like that we didn't use Cooley, I wanted to see him late in the game and run over a tired defense, now that we got other bodies back he goes way down my list for priority
Game just didn't go that way
I'm high on Allen but as you know I like to slow roast our prospects
Not worried about our receiving core, I think they will be ok but very interesting to see Mitchell getting reps here
I want to see Cobb get a few balls
Agree with your take on receiver, after a few weeks of not seeing things the same way I believe we are closer to being on the same page as of late
I am very nervous with Cooley as a returner, good point though maybe he helped block, didn't notice
Cooley and Allen are both CFL rookies, so that's a bit of a double standard wanting the slow and easy. He's only rushed for 11 times while Peterson has rushed 49 times and he's Canadian. He didn't have any previous return duties when he was on the roster.
Todays IR reports are encouraging except for Parker using a crutch. He's certainly not playing this week.
However, Logan was practising and he could be an option replacing Cooley. He has more experience and could be used on offence a few times if he dresses. Logan has nearly 200 returns on either punt or K/O and he has rushing and receiving experience. That's great versatility to have.
Benson practising is good but Leroux is doing fine so I don't see him being replaced at the moment.
Now we're seeing Collaros, Bryant and Vanterpool all seeming to be available.
The two biggest surprises are:
1. Schoen running which suggests he's not done for the season. This will be game 4 missed so it will be awhile before he's eligible to come off 6 game IR. I won't expect him to come off early.
2. D. Mitchell working out at SB. I have no idea whether he's really being considered to be added. I think I mentioned he could just be used on return duty and as a back up receiver. Cooley would come off to make room.
Peterson did have a couple of K/O returns when he was on the roster for 18 yard average.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 04, 2025, 08:50:18 PMCooley and Allen are both CFL rookies, so that's a bit of a double standard wanting the slow and easy. He's only rushed for 11 times while Peterson has rushed 49 times and he's Canadian. He didn't have any previous return duties when he was on the roster.
Todays IR reports are encouraging except for Parker using a crutch. He's certainly not playing this week.
However, Logan was practising and he could be an option replacing Cooley. He has more experience and could be used on offence a few times if he dresses.
Benson practising is good but Leroux is doing fine so I don't see him being replaced at the moment.
Now we're seeing Collaros, Bryant and Vanterpool all seeming to be available.
The two biggest surprises are:
1. Schoen running which suggests he's not done for the season. This will be game 4 missed so it will be awhile before he's eligible to come off 6 game IR. I won't expect him to come off early.
2. D. Mitchell working out at SB. I have no idea whether he's really being considered to be added. I think I mentioned he could just be used on return duty and as a back up receiver. Cooley would come off to make room.
Peterson did have a couple of K/O returns when he was on the roster for 18 yard average.
After seeing Cooley's success in preseason I was never worried about him seeing action quickly.
On defense I like to slow roast guys, not get them roasted lol. Allen could be a key member of this club for years to come. Gotta develop them in a way that ensures long term success.
Make a strong case for Peterson, didn't know he was returning as well. Excited for Logan but he will be rusty.
I'm worried about Parker too, agree rest is good news. Hopefully Lawson and Kramdi are OK. Kramdi would be a big loss, Lawson a good rotational guy with Thomas.
I didn't know Mitchell was at slot, that's very interesting.
Fingers crossed on Schoen, while some are a little critical of him, he stirs the drink for us big time.
Most of my early hopes for player availability options seem to be there plus a couple I was uncertain about. Logan, Woods and even Mitchell are now options.
I can't honestly say which choices they'll make. A few are obvious but several will be decided during the week.
That said I did suggest we'd probably have some significant roster movement due to healthy players.
I don't think Kramdi or Lawson are injured and were just excused for the day. However if Kramdi can't play it's all the more reason to add Makonzo as a back up at SAM.
Cooley had success in pre season but a lot or running backs do before the starters play. Most import RB are then nearly immediately released at cut down.
Allen had success as well but pre season is a time when rookies are playing against mostly rookies.
The biggest comment I'd make is that we have a Canadian RB to back up but we're thin with safety depth, especially if Kramdi can't play.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 04, 2025, 08:59:56 PMMost of my early hopes for player availability options seem to be there plus a couple I was uncertain about. Logan, Woods and even Mitchell are now options.
I can't honestly say which choices they'll make. A few are obvious but several will be decided during the week.
That said I did suggest we'd probably have some significant roster movement due to healthy players.
I don't think Kramdi or Lawson are injured and were just excused for the day. However if Kramdi can't play it's all the more reason to add Makonzo as a back up at SAM.
Cooley had success in pre season but a lot or running backs do before the starters play. Most import RB are then nearly immediately released at cut down.
Allen had success as well but pre season is a time when rookies are playing against mostly rookies.
The biggest comment I'd make is that we have a Canadian RB to back up but we're thin with safety depth, especially if Kramdi can't play.
Makonzo has been extended on the 6 game.
Kramdi and Lawson were both walking around in street clothes, so not obviously injured.
Mitchell got reps at slot early but spent most of practice at WR (With Wheatfall and Clercius getting snaps at slot).
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 04, 2025, 09:42:39 PMMakonzo has been extended on the 6 game.
I forgot about that, so he won't be an option this week and beyond.
Quote from: Jesse on August 04, 2025, 09:45:35 PMKramdi and Lawson were both walking around in street clothes, so not obviously injured.
Mitchell got reps at slot early but spent most of practice at WR (With Wheatfall and Clercius getting snaps at slot).
I suggested Mitchell at WR and Clercius moving to slot a couple of times as an option. Now he's getting looks all over the place. So that's going to be interesting.
Calgary favoured by between 5-6 points
they have to do something to kick start the offense. Zach back will help but they need to ignite both the running game and passing game.
Quote from: Jesse on August 04, 2025, 09:45:35 PMKramdi and Lawson were both walking around in street clothes, so not obviously injured.
Mitchell got reps at slot early but spent most of practice at WR (With Wheatfall and Clercius getting snaps at slot).
How did Mitchell do? Was he in sync with QB? Was he being team player? Was OSHEA watching? etc. etc.
Quote from: Stats Junkie on August 04, 2025, 07:57:56 PMNic Demski is wearing Dalton Schoen's jersey #83.
Uh, what to read into this? This usually signifies the dude is an IR disaster, "solidarity" with the ailing player. Yet Schoen is running?
Confused
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 04, 2025, 01:46:19 PMEasy. As I said, all of J. Jones, Kelly and Ball were on coverage teams against the Argos. I didn't say anything about being in the doghouse. I said he seems to have lost his role as a rotational player on defence and may be seeing his duty on ST's diminished. He didn't record an ST in either Argo game.
It's difficult to see who was replaced on ST's on TV but it's reasonable to think Hallett could have been one. Maybe someone at the game can give more information. Maybe he got nicked in the early going.
I went through every kick play in the TOR@WPG game to look for Hallett. Here's the results:
columns:
kick play #
Block or Coverage play
Mid-level duty or Gunner duty or "in" (can't tell duty) or Edge/contain or Unseen=could be in no good wide shots or numbers obscured
iot=In On Tackle
1 b m
2 b m
3 b in td
4 c iot
5 b in
6 c g
7 b unseen/badcams
8 b unseen/badcams
9 c m
10 c g
11 fg edge
12 c not-in?
13 b not-in? td
14 c not-in?
HT
1 c not-in?
2 fg not-in?
3 b m
4 c g
5 b in
6 b unseen/badcams
7 b in turnover
8 b g
9 c g? or not-in
10 c wide-contain
I am not including WPG FG attempts, as Hallett doesn't seem to have a role there. Some "not-ins" he might still be in, as it's VERY easy to confuse #21 and #31 since as soon as Hallett starts running his jersey lifts and you can't tell 2 from 3, and Holm/Hallet are very similar body type.
Conclusion:
Hallett not in for ~ 8 of 24 ST plays, and thus in for 16. It appears after #12 in 1st H he may have gotten nicked or winded as he was out for a good while. However, it may also be Mafia trying to get more looks for Kelly/Ball.
He was the key edge kick-blocker on at least 1 FG attempt.
I maintain he's pivotal on ST and will not be benched for any new kid. He may be more pivotal than Cadwall. He doesn't get stats because he's often the gunner or the contain. It's those 2nd level guys that usually get the tackles, by design.
He is a key part of our FG speed kick-blocking unit.
P.S. That's a bucket load of kick plays at 60Y sprints for these guys. Yikes!
P.P.S. The most important block on the KR TD, other than the masterful 3-4 guy corral of 5-6 TOR guys, was #30 J.Jones. Cooley wasn't appearing very effective, though he seemed to be in his proper place. Ball & Kelly both saw reps. Ball seemed hyped/fast.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 05, 2025, 10:59:38 AMI went through every kick play in the TOR@WPG game to look for Hallett. Here's the results:
columns:
kick play #
Block or Coverage play
Mid-level duty or Gunner duty or "in" (can't tell duty) or Edge/contain or Unseen=could be in no good wide shots or numbers obscured
iot=In On Tackle
1 b m
2 b m
3 b in td
4 c iot
5 b in
6 c g
7 b unseen/badcams
8 b unseen/badcams
9 c m
10 c g
11 fg edge
12 c not-in?
13 b not-in? td
14 c not-in?
HT
1 c not-in?
2 fg not-in?
3 b m
4 c g
5 b in
6 b unseen/badcams
7 b in turnover
8 b g
9 c g? or not-in
10 c wide-contain
I am not including WPG FG attempts, as Hallett doesn't seem to have a role there. Some "not-ins" he might still be in, as it's VERY easy to confuse #21 and #31 since as soon as Hallett starts running his jersey lifts and you can't tell 2 from 3, and Holm/Hallet are very similar body type.
Conclusion:
Hallett not in for ~ 8 of 24 ST plays, and thus in for 16. It appears after #12 in 1st H he may have gotten nicked or winded as he was out for a good while. However, it may also be Mafia trying to get more looks for Kelly/Ball.
He was the key edge kick-blocker on at least 1 FG attempt.
I maintain he's pivotal on ST and will not be benched for any new kid. He may be more pivotal than Cadwall. He doesn't get stats because he's often the gunner or the contain. It's those 2nd level guys that usually get the tackles, by design.
He is a key part of our FG speed kick-blocking unit.
P.S. That's a bucket load of kick plays at 60Y sprints for these guys. Yikes!
P.P.S. The most important block on the KR TD, other than the masterful 3-4 guy corral of 5-6 TOR guys, was #30 J.Jones. Cooley wasn't appearing very effective, though he seemed to be in his proper place. Ball & Kelly both saw reps. Ball seemed hyped/fast.
Good information, thanks. Not sure it proves or disproves my thought that his role might be diminishing as new players start taking more reps.
Could you tell or have an opinion on which players are taking less reps? Kelly and J.Jones were playing their 1st game and Ball was playing his 2nd game.
Quote from: barbk on August 04, 2025, 11:11:46 PMHow did Mitchell do? Was he in sync with QB? Was he being team player? Was OSHEA watching? etc. etc.
I saw Mitchell get targeted a couple times. Those quick out sideline passes that Collaros loves to throw lately. I did not see us running any reps with 3 Canadian receivers. I think Strev threw an INT when targeting Mitchell one time, but he threw a couple. Didn't seem like his best day.
It was during team periods, so MOS would have been watching. It's practice, so it's hard for me to say he really did anything to stand out, but he certainly looked like he belonged. But he also didn't take every rep. You'd see him and Stanley come off for reps and sit on the side.
Collaros looked like himself. The only interceptions of the day that I noticed were from Strev and Wilson. But Zach also never pushed the ball deep that I saw.
Maybe when we see the daily IR report we might have a better idea of what changes to expect on the roster. I'm not a fan of the 3 Canadian receivers at this point. There may be some upside but now is not the time when our offence has had injury issues at QB and OL.
That may be resolved this week but the 3 Canadian receivers should be on it's last legs if not DOA this week.
from DT:
Day 2 of Bombers practice:
DT Cam Lawson remains out. OL Micah Vanterpool is out today after working yesterday.
DB Redha Kramdi is back after sitting out yesterday.
Quote from: The Zipp on August 05, 2025, 04:39:14 PMfrom DT:
Day 2 of Bombers practice:
DT Cam Lawson remains out. OL Micah Vanterpool is out today after working yesterday.
DB Redha Kramdi is back after sitting out yesterday.
Even with Vanterpool out there's still one too many NI O-linemen available, unless Randolph plays in Wallace's LG spot.
It will be interesting to see how the short week between Sat - Thursday games impacts the roster decisions.
On the starting 3 Canadians WRs, we don't have the talent to do that. Corcoran is not a starting receiver.
Quote from: RebusRankin on August 05, 2025, 05:07:18 PMOn the starting 3 Canadians WRs, we don't have the talent to do that. Corcoran is not a starting receiver.
In years past, 5th receiver was often a NAT that wasn't a starting receiver... not saying that is or should be the case, but historically...
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 05, 2025, 04:42:54 PMEven with Vanterpool out there's still one too many NI O-linemen available, unless Randolph plays in Wallace's LG spot.
You're confusing me with your use of NI. To me that means Non Imports ( Canadians ) when I think you are talking about Imports?
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 05, 2025, 04:42:54 PMEven with Vanterpool out there's still one too many NI O-linemen available, unless Randolph plays in Wallace's LG spot.
Not sure what the means leading up to this weeks game. I don't really want to see Kornelson back on the AR. It might mean that we need Woods back on the AR as our best choice of options with the last import on the roster ( with Cooley coming out ). That still leaves us options on whether to add a 3 import OL, a receiver or Logan by taking out either Ayers or J. Jones.
If was up to me I'm taking out Ayers if we want one of those options. I like Ayers but J. Jones can replace his role on ST's and on defence. J. Jones is more likely to push to start if we have an injury IMO.
Ayers is a good player but the role of a DI and the ranking of where he might fit in is perilous. I just think J. Jones has more short and long term benefit. I mean we don't even rank him on the depth chart as a LB. Very odd. If that's where they really see him then person just leaped past him in that role.
Interesting stat. JC81 is 8/8 for 52 yards, seems to be automatic on the 7 yard crossing pattern. Solid backup Canadian receiver, with good hands.
TJ33 leads the D with 41 DTs. 19 ahead of Kramdi who has 22.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 05, 2025, 05:13:40 PMYou're confusing me with your use of NI. To me that means Non Imports ( Canadians ) when I think you are talking about Imports?
Yes sorry I meant Imports.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 05, 2025, 05:24:55 PMYes sorry I meant Imports.
No problem. I thought there was a chance of Vanterpool might start at LG but now he's not practising. I suppose Randolph is a choice to do that but I don't think we see that happen.
So now I lean more to having an import receiver which I'd lump in Logan with the 2 import receivers added to the roster. As I suggested Logan can do punt and K/O returns, fill some role at receiver or RB. He's versatile and might be finally ready.
Maybe someone at practice can fill us in on what configurations we're having on the OL. What's the deal with Vanterpool?
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 05, 2025, 03:25:49 PMMaybe when we see the daily IR report we might have a better idea of what changes to expect on the roster. I'm not a fan of the 3 Canadian receivers at this point. There may be some upside but now is not the time when our offence has had injury issues at QB and OL.
That may be resolved this week but the 3 Canadian receivers should be on it's last legs if not DOA this week.
Not sure how the Bombers get away with not having to release an injury report for yesterday.
They practice 3 days this week so it was their day 1. They may think it's not required as it was 5 days before the game.
Calgary didn't provide an injury report either but for them it was an extra day of practice as they are practicing on Thursday while the Bombers have the day off.
Quote from: RebusRankin on August 05, 2025, 05:07:18 PMOn the starting 3 Canadians WRs, we don't have the talent to do that. Corcoran is not a starting receiver.
To be fair it makes most sense with Streveler starting. Might as well load up elsewhere because the receivers are going to be largely blocking which is why Corcoran started. They basically said as much.
See that mtrl just signed Ciante Evans and Dandridge, wonder if Walters even looked into them
Quote from: Pigskin on August 05, 2025, 05:18:40 PMInteresting stat. JC81 is 8/8 for 52 yards, seems to be automatic on the 7 yard crossing pattern. Solid backup Canadian receiver, with good hands.
TJ33 leads the D with 41 DTs. 19 ahead of Kramdi who has 22.
TBH I haven't seen Corcoran run anything other than that one crossing pattern, not sure what his skill set is for running great routes, contesting balls or making great catches, for now he should remain a backup to Clercius.
Alright, so I've been to both practices this week:
Offence:
- Zach took all 1st team reps, tentative on Monday, was dropping some bombs today
- Mitchell working with 1st team on the outside and at slot. The first time I saw him take a waggle, he was two steps behind everyone else, looking at the ball the whole time. 2nd time was better, but still a step behind making very sure he didn't go off side.
- Wallace at LG the entire time
- Stanley took about half the reps on Monday, looked to be in there the whole time today.
- Strev did not look good on either day, lots of hesitation, ints, receivers getting hit as they try to make the reception
- Wilson got a couple reps on both days. I can see why he's not getting game reps. Don't think I saw him complete one pass.
Defence:
- D. Lawson was at CB today.
- Kelly took all the safety reps for 1st team I saw, with Kramdi back at LB
Quote from: Jesse on August 05, 2025, 07:31:55 PMAlright, so I've been to both practices this week:
Offence:
- Zach took all 1st team reps, tentative on Monday, was dropping some bombs today
- Mitchell working with 1st team on the outside and at slot. The first time I saw him take a waggle, he was two steps behind everyone else, looking at the ball the whole time. 2nd time was better, but still a step behind making very sure he didn't go off side.
- Wallace at LG the entire team
- Stanley took about half the reps on Monday, looked to be in there the whole time today.
- Strev did not look good on either day, lots of hesitation, ints, receivers getting hit as they try to make the reception
- Wilson got a couple reps on both days. I can see why he's not getting game reps. Don't think I saw him complete one pass.
Defence:
- D. Lawson was at CB today.
- Kelly took all the safety reps for 1st team I saw, with Kramdi back at LB
We don't need a Canadian at safety but sure if he's a better choice than Kramdi. That does give us the option of less Canadian reps at DT if Lawson is nicked.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 05, 2025, 07:50:30 PMWe don't need a Canadian at safety but sure if he's a better choice than Kramdi. That does give us the option of less Canadian reps at DT if Lawson is nicked.
Sounds like Griffin goes back to playing "wherever", Kramdi back to SAM and J. Jones or Ayers back to the 1 game.
Our QBs sound putrid! Thanks
@Jesse
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 05, 2025, 08:37:39 PMSounds like Griffin goes back to playing "wherever", Kramdi back to SAM and J. Jones or Ayers back to the 1 game.
Yeah. Most snaps I noticed had 3 DL, Jones playing up close to the line and Griffin floating.
Doesn't sound like Logan is going to be available. Game 8 and he's still not 100%. That sure didn't work out.
Vanterpool also looks like he won't play so the question is does Lofton replace Randolph or not?
Lawson still on the limp. Didn't expect that to be a variation this week. Peterson would be the Canadian coming on for his roster spot.
What options does that leave us with for this week? Mitchell is rising to the top by process of elimination. Nothing has been mentioned about Allen seeing any reps at safety with 1st team.
That leaves us with Mitchell in and Cooley out? Mitchell can back up returns even if he isn't starting at receiver.
Woods could be added at the cost of an import LB.
Man, MOS defends his players til the bitter end. Denies there's been any troubles with Collaros throwing picks....well Mike, the last year, it hasn't been 'greatness', 3 years ago, ya, he was pretty unbelievable, but father time is cruel, and Zack has become a pick machine, don't deny it, acknowledge it, and game plan around it, if not, nothing will change.
Zach still has got a lot give and is much more than a pick machine. He will turn back on the TD machine as soon as our OL gets healthy and we improve at receiver. Yes he will throw ducks but his TD to Int ratio should stabilize. MOS is right to defend him.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 05, 2025, 10:16:50 PMDoesn't sound like Logan is going to be available. Game 8 and he's still not 100%. That sure didn't work out.
Vanterpool also looks like he won't play so the question is does Lofton replace Randolph or not?
Lawson still on the limp. Didn't expect that to be a variation this week. Peterson would be the Canadian coming on for his roster spot.
What options does that leave us with for this week? Mitchell is rising to the top by process of elimination. Nothing has been mentioned about Allen seeing any reps at safety with 1st team.
That leaves us with Mitchell in and Cooley out? Mitchell can back up returns even if he isn't starting at receiver.
Woods could be added at the cost of an import LB.
Yeah I would get Woods on
Amazing report Jesse!!!!
Thought Dexter Lawson was a rookie but he was with the Ti-Cats for 2023 and half of 2024 where he started and played in 13 games. Could be shades of ex-Ti-Cat Desmond Lawrence, temporary fill in.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 05, 2025, 10:38:23 PMThought Dexter Lawson was a rookie but he was with the Ti-Cats for 2023 and half of 2024 where he started and played in 13 games. Could be shades of ex-Ti-Cat Desmond Lawrence, temporary fill in.
I did not know what either. Gives me hope.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 05, 2025, 10:38:23 PMThought Dexter Lawson was a rookie but he was with the Ti-Cats for 2023 and half of 2024 where he started and played in 13 games. Could be shades of ex-Ti-Cat Desmond Lawrence, temporary fill in.
Played 13 games, had 45 DTs, 2 STs, 1 Int. Very solid guy, loves to play physical, and has good closing speed.
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 05, 2025, 10:22:59 PMZach still has got a lot give and is much more than a pick machine. He will turn back on the TD machine as soon as our OL gets healthy and we improve at receiver. Yes he will throw ducks but his TD to Int ratio should stabilize. MOS is right to defend him.
Yeah I would get Woods on
Amazing report Jesse!!!!
We had a good OL and recievers the last 2 Grey Cups, what happened then?? I'll excuse the 4th quarter in last years Grey Cup due to injury, but he wasn't lighting it up in the first 3 quarters, or the previous Grey Cup either.
I am hopeful its an OL and reciever issue, and if it is, i can see our OL getting back on track this year, but our receivers aren't a strong lot, so our misery will continue. Get used to seeing a DB take a ball away from one of our smaller recievers.
Quote from: dd on August 05, 2025, 10:59:43 PMWe had a good OL and recievers the last 2 Grey Cups, what happened then?? I'll excuse the 4th quarter in last years Grey Cup due to injury, but he wasn't lighting it up in the first 3 quarters, or the previous Grey Cup either.
I am hopeful its an OL and reciever issue, and if it is, i can see our OL getting back on track this year, but our receivers aren't a strong lot, so our misery will continue. Get used to seeing a DB take a ball away from one of our smaller recievers.
You can't look at any single game sample size, even if it's the Grey Cup, but we've had some bad injury luck at receiver in both those cup games.
If you want to take MOS at his word, they look at each interception in film, and the QB could be making the right read/play but receiver is wrong or was rushed too early, etc etc. They look at the process of why the INT happens, not just "Zach bad".
I hope these are the changes this week:
COLLAROS for Artopeous - obviously
BRYANT for Lofton - obviously, although I can see them keeping Lofton as LG.
MITCHELL for Cooley - Mitchell is practicing with the 1s, looking more he will play this week
PETERSON for Cobb - if Cooley is out, we need someone to backup Brady
SCHMEKEL for C. Lawson - this if C.Lawson is out
D. LAWSON for Parker - Parker will go to the 6-game, dont want Bridges back on that spot
WOODS for Ayers - I hope they'll go DL-heavy this week. Mills will run all over us again
BAILEY for Ball - I don't think we need 4 NAT DBs, I'll try this guy
Quote from: M.O.A.B. on August 06, 2025, 09:49:15 AMI hope these are the changes this week:
COLLAROS for Artopeous - obviously
BRYANT for Lofton - obviously, although I can see them keeping Lofton as LG.
MITCHELL for Cooley - Mitchell is practicing with the 1s, looking more he will play this week
PETERSON for Cobb - if Cooley is out, we need someone to backup Brady
SCHMEKEL for C. Lawson - this if C.Lawson is out
D. LAWSON for Parker - Parker will go to the 6-game, dont want Bridges back on that spot
WOODS for Ayers - I hope they'll go DL-heavy this week. Mills will run all over us again
BAILEY for Ball - I don't think we need 4 NAT DBs, I'll try this guy
Agree all but don't think we will see Bailey (yet)
A little nervous about Lawson!
Quote from: M.O.A.B. on August 06, 2025, 09:49:15 AMI hope these are the changes this week:
COLLAROS for Artopeous - obviously
BRYANT for Lofton - obviously, although I can see them keeping Lofton as LG.
MITCHELL for Cooley - Mitchell is practicing with the 1s, looking more he will play this week
PETERSON for Cobb - if Cooley is out, we need someone to backup Brady
SCHMEKEL for C. Lawson - this if C.Lawson is out
D. LAWSON for Parker - Parker will go to the 6-game, dont want Bridges back on that spot
WOODS for Ayers - I hope they'll go DL-heavy this week. Mills will run all over us again
BAILEY for Ball - I don't think we need 4 NAT DBs, I'll try this guy
If we add Woods, we probably don't need Schmekel. He'd be the one I'd leave on IR in order to add Bailey. Ball was playing on ST's and Schmekel has been hidden on IR all season.
It would be really interesting to hear from those going to practice about what the # 1 OL looks like. Is it a 3 Canadian or 3 import?
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 06, 2025, 12:54:54 PMIf we add Woods, we probably don't need Schmekel. He'd be the one I'd leave on IR in order to add Bailey. Ball was playing on ST's and Schmekel has been hidden on IR all season.
It would be really interesting to hear from those going to practice about what the # 1 OL looks like. Is it a 3 Canadian or 3 import?
Good list from M.O.A.B. I think lots of those are probable.
Haven't been to practice but I imagine one option they would look at on the offensive line is:
Bryant - Randolph - Kolankowski - Neufeld - Lofton
Which, if it looks familiar, was what we rolled out for a lot of last year. It's a question of whether Wallace has earned enough trust that he can outplay Randolph there and then the opportunity cost with the ratio if he hasn't. The major benefit to Randolph at guard that I can see is that if either tackle go down they'll be happy here's there to rejuggle.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 06, 2025, 12:54:54 PMIf we add Woods, we probably don't need Schmekel. He'd be the one I'd leave on IR in order to add Bailey. Ball was playing on ST's and Schmekel has been hidden on IR all season.
It would be really interesting to hear from those going to practice about what the # 1 OL looks like. Is it a 3 Canadian or 3 import?
3 Canadian all week
Calgarys dline is right now playing like the best in league, given how qbs are going down Id like to see Randolph in. And going with 6 oline regularly.
This would mean one of the following would move to pr
Ayers (and Jones if Woods is in)
Mitchell
People out of Calgary saying Bighill is practicing this week and could draw in, too.
Quote from: Jesse on August 06, 2025, 02:46:19 PMPeople out of Calgary saying Bighill is practicing this week and could draw in, too.
he is gonna be fired up..can't wait for BO to break his ankles and blow by him...
Quote from: Jesse on August 06, 2025, 02:46:19 PMPeople out of Calgary saying Bighill is practicing this week and could draw in, too.
Dickenson says hes getting closer but doesnt sound like its this week
Quote from: Jesse on August 06, 2025, 02:21:30 PM3 Canadian all week
Well it's a ratio advantage if we do that allowing an import elsewhere. Like everything, there are pros and cons. I'm not concerned that we won't be able to run effectively. It's more of a question can we pass protect and keep Collaros from getting hit or needing to rush throws.
Calgary has many roster issues regarding injuries to some key players. VAJ is probably back but they have issues in their secondary due to injuries. We have to be able to take advantage.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 06, 2025, 04:06:41 PMWell it's a ratio advantage if we do that allowing an import elsewhere. Like everything, there are pros and cons. I'm not concerned that we won't be able to run effectively. It's more of a question can we pass protect and keep Collaros from getting hit or needing to rush throws.
Calgary has many roster issues regarding injuries to some key players. VAJ is probably back but they have issues in their secondary due to injuries. We have to be able to take advantage.
Time for Bombs and Brady bully ball
I thought Ottawa's O line brought stamps D line down to earth.
Stanback had some good runs, and Dru, for the most part had time to throw.
They're not that scary. They Lost one player and the team looked ordinary.
If good Zach shows up, Brady gets back on track, and Hogan finds something newish in his playbook
we win.
Willie is back. He's a one man army. Younger Hall will get the D going. Just a matter of time.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GxsojuxWsAAOCJe?format=jpg&name=small)
Bad news about Logan
At least Lawson got some reps
Need to get more out of our Canadian DTs. Lawson with 9 DTs and Thomas with 3. Both without a sack so far this year.
Quote from: Pigskin on August 06, 2025, 09:41:20 PMNeed to get more out of our Canadian DTs. Lawson with 9 DTs and Thomas with 3. Both without a sack so far this year.
Yeah, that was something we should have been doing in free agency. Lawson was just starting to gain form after a long time off with injury. Now he's nicked again. I wonder if it's from the previous injury or a new injury or how serious.
He'll get moved to IR but whether it's 1 game or 6 game we won't know until later this week. This might be motivation to choose Woods being added to the AR for at least this week.
Can't quite rule out Lawson as being able to play this week.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 06, 2025, 10:19:59 PMYeah, that was something we should have been doing in free agency. Lawson was just starting to gain form after a long time off with injury. Now he's nicked again. I wonder if it's from the previous injury or a new injury or how serious.
He'll get moved to IR but whether it's 1 game or 6 game we won't know until later this week. This might be motivation to choose Woods being added to the AR for at least this week.
Can't quite rule out Lawson as being able to play this week.
Hopefully it's not a reagrevation
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 06, 2025, 10:52:33 PMHopefully it's not a reagrevation
I don't think so. In 2024 it was a knee injury I believe. This time it's a hip injury which can be minor or serious. He was listed as " limited " so it's an issue but sounds more like day to day, week to week.
Quote from: Pigskin on August 06, 2025, 09:41:20 PMNeed to get more out of our Canadian DTs. Lawson with 9 DTs and Thomas with 3. Both without a sack so far this year.
I don't really think we have the horses there this year. We don't need to force them onto the field if they're not performing.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 06, 2025, 11:21:43 PMI don't think so. In 2024 it was a knee injury I believe. This time it's a hip injury which can be minor or serious. He was listed as " limited " so it's an issue but sounds more like day to day, week to week.
Good to know!