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The Extra Point => Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum => Topic started by: peg_city on July 30, 2025, 11:39:37 PM

Poll
Question: Which QB are you taking (only looking at their time with the Bombers)?
Option 1: Matt Nicols
Option 2: Kevin Glenn
Option 3: Buck Pierce
Title: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: peg_city on July 30, 2025, 11:39:37 PM
Feel free to rank them in order.

I thought of this poll because Zach Collaros and Khari are the best two bomber QBs this century. So who is number 3?

I apologize for leaving Kerwin Bell and Tee Martin off of the list.
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: peg_city on July 30, 2025, 11:43:33 PM
I think most people are going to say Kevin Glenn, but here are the stats.

Kevin Glenn
Year   Team   G[a]   GS   Cmp   Att   Pct   Yards   TD   Int   Rate   Att   Yards   
2004   WPG   18   9   166   274   60.6   2,329   14   8   92.9   30   125   
2005   WPG   15   15   231   403   57.3   3,571   27   17   91.5   30   103   
2006   WPG   16   16   249   430   57.9   3,427   17   13   84.1   40   194   
2007   WPG   18   18   388   621   62.5   5,117   25   13   93.2   41   132   
2008   WPG   18   15   293   454   64.5   3,637   20   20   85.6   29   102   

Matt Nicols
Year   Team   GA   GS   Att   Comp   Pct   Yards   TD   Int   Rating   Att   Yards   
2016   WPG   18   13   471   327   69.4   3,666   18   9   97.1   35   90   
2017   WPG   18   17   579   411   71.0   4,472   28   8   103.8   26   188   
2018   WPG   15   14   392   254   64.8   3,146   18   13   91.0   15   52   
2019   WPG   9   9   240   171   71.3   1,936   15   5   107.2   9   37   

Buck Pierce
2010   WPG   5   5   120   80   66.7   1,080   90   6   4   97.9   22   
2011   WPG   16   16   411   261   63.5   3,348   92   14   18   82.0   51   
2012   WPG   7   7   113   68   60.2   951   57   3   3   85.1   12   


Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: gobombersgo on July 30, 2025, 11:44:51 PM
I dont think this should even be a question.

Things may have been different though if Buck didn't get injured as much.

Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: peg_city on July 30, 2025, 11:47:56 PM
Quote from: gobombersgo on July 30, 2025, 11:44:51 PMI dont think this should even be a question.

Things may have been different though if Buck didn't get injured as much.



I was thinking about doing a poll about who was better, Matt Nichols or 2025 Zach Collaros, but settled on this.
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: Jesse on July 31, 2025, 12:04:43 AM
Ironically, Glenn probably got the most hate during his time here, while Buck was the worst in every way but was the most well liked.
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: bomb squad on July 31, 2025, 01:34:04 AM
Looks like Glenn is running away with it. He didn't deserve the hate. He had a decent career, but oh how it could have been so much better if not for a really bad break. Pun intended.
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: Blueforlife on July 31, 2025, 01:58:09 AM
I choose Nichols by mistake I meant to pick Glenn
Glenn
Nichols
Buck

Buck if healthy was pretty good

I don't think I can edit my response lol
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: BLUEBOMBER on July 31, 2025, 02:32:14 AM
Pierce didn't do much in the BB organization as a player. Kevin Glenn was dynamite when he was healthy and on point. Nichols brought stability to the QB situation but it was our defence that let us down when he was here.
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on July 31, 2025, 03:04:56 AM
Glenn in his prime was best out of these
Nichols great but couldn't win the big game, I agree the D sucked
Buck was hurt to much
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: TecnoGenius on July 31, 2025, 10:01:08 AM
I'll always love Nichols.  And some of his stats like completion % are pretty darn good compared to the others.  He got a bum deal when he got lemonated.

He was the 1st good WPG QB I saw after becoming a fan again.  I'll be forever grateful for what he did for us.

I still maintain the he could have won us that '19 GC.
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: Waffler on July 31, 2025, 12:44:15 PM
Nichols. Ran ball control about as flawlessly as is possible to do. Lapo knew how to use him.

Glenn. Had Stegall to throw to and was streaky. I'll never forget the one year he was in the conversation for MOP though, 2007. He was machine like, fast and error free, especially in the first half of the season.

Buck. Good leader but his best days were in BC.
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: Jesse on July 31, 2025, 12:46:57 PM
Buck, as much as we love him, was never a successful QB. Blame injuries, but his career high was 19 TDs in a season. He did 14 with us one time and that might be the only times he made it into double digits.
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 31, 2025, 01:38:10 PM
KG is my pick with Nichols being a very close second. Love Pierce for his fire and compete but his time with the Bombers was mired by injuries.
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on July 31, 2025, 01:47:33 PM
Glenn
Nichols
Buck

And then I can't forget that 3D chess extraordinaire Mike Kelly released him for nothing and then replaced with him Stephen Lefors who he gave up a second round pick to get.
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: Jesse on July 31, 2025, 01:48:51 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 31, 2025, 01:47:33 PMGlenn
Nichols
Buck

And then I can't forget that 3D chess extraordinaire Mike Kelly released him for nothing and then replaced with him Stephen Lefors who he gave up a second round pick to get.
.

He was just the absolute worst.
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 31, 2025, 02:12:50 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 31, 2025, 01:47:33 PMGlenn
Nichols
Buck

And then I can't forget that 3D chess extraordinaire Mike Kelly released him for nothing and then replaced with him Stephen Lefors who he gave up a second round pick to get.

Giving Mike Kelly the keys to this franchise was one of the most insufferable things we've ever had to endure as fans.
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: peg_city on July 31, 2025, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 31, 2025, 02:12:50 PMGiving Mike Kelly the keys to this franchise was one of the most insufferable things we've ever had to endure as fans.

Non-issue. Handled Internally. Next Question.

What a glorious year of drama 2009 was.

Releasing Kevin Glenn.
Trading for Stephan Lefors
Pacman Jones
Barrin Simpson being placed on the injured listed, even though he said he wasn't injured.
Casey Bramlet
Michael Bishop
Getting destroyed in the final game of the year with the playoffs on the line
Mike Kelly getting arrested and his picture being on the front page of the paper.
Romby Bryant putting in a half-assed effort after one look at the play book
Teams mentioning that the bombers were easy to play against because they knew when the bombers were going to run (because they'd run full speed towards the line)
And whatever else I'm missing
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: blue_or_die on July 31, 2025, 06:56:02 PM
Quote from: peg_city on July 31, 2025, 02:23:21 PMNon-issue. Handled Internally. Next Question.

What a glorious year of drama 2009 was.

Releasing Kevin Glenn.
Trading for Stephan Lefors
Pacman Jones
Barrin Simpson being placed on the injured listed, even though he said he wasn't injured.
Casey Bramlet
Michael Bishop
Getting destroyed in the final game of the year with the playoffs on the line
Mike Kelly getting arrested and his picture being on the front page of the paper.
Romby Bryant putting in a half-assed effort after one look at the play book
Teams mentioning that the bombers were easy to play against because they knew when the bombers were going to run (because they'd run full speed towards the line)
And whatever else I'm missing

I just threw up in my mouth a little
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: blue_or_die on July 31, 2025, 07:00:05 PM
I voted for KG. I think he took hate because everyone wanted a Khari slinger and Glenn was a bit closer to a game manager like Nichols. Had a nice quick release. Gave us a legitimate offense.

Goes to show how personability comes into play, though. I agree that of the lot, Buck was the worst but everyone (including me) just loves him as a man and how he plays when he's healthy and on his game. Nichols was a game manager who acted like a star. He was very good though and got us through to become who we are today. There's something about him that rubbed me the wrong way but I shouldn't let that cloud his skill level and what he brought. Mainly respectability to the team and the start of our golden age.
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on July 31, 2025, 07:02:33 PM
Quote from: Jesse on July 31, 2025, 01:48:51 PM.

He was just the absolute worst.
Kelly is a tie with Reinbold for worst coach GM we've ever had. For different reasons but each were the worst.
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: dd on July 31, 2025, 08:47:40 PM
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 31, 2025, 07:02:33 PMKelly is a tie with Reinbold for worst coach GM we've ever had. For different reasons but each were the worst.
Gotta agree there Goldie. One was an arrogant a hole who thought he knew everything, but didn't (remember shotgun snaps are for high school comment!!) and one was clueless on how to run a football team. One the pain and suffering we have endured over the years!!! It does help cope with the hiccup we're having right now, as we know this will be short term.
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: RebusRankin on July 31, 2025, 09:29:49 PM
Reinbold and Kelly were so bad, they help out Tim Burke because he's a clear third on the worst Bomber coaches since 1997 list despite being a brutal coach.

Glenn
Nichols
Buck
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: bwiser on July 31, 2025, 10:21:24 PM
I voted for Nichols. He has often been credited by other Bomber Qbs for bringing a professionalism to the quarterback room that hadn't been there in the past. Streveler said that when he came to the Bombers he would arrive in the quarterbacks room and Nichols would already be there studying film. Streveler decided to come an hour earlier the next day and who was there but Nichols.Streveler saw what it takes to be a starting qb in the CFL ad began putting in the work. This trend has continued to this day. I also voted for Nichols because he was the qb when the Bombers began to turn the corner and make the playoffs regularily. Glenn had some good games but a lot of the teams he was on were not very good.Pierce was just hurt too much playing behind a terrible O-line.
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 01, 2025, 03:00:43 AM
Quote from: RebusRankin on July 31, 2025, 09:29:49 PMReinbold and Kelly were so bad, they help out Tim Burke

LOL.  That is bad!
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 01, 2025, 03:02:28 AM
Quote from: blue_or_die on July 31, 2025, 07:00:05 PMNichols was a game manager who acted like a star. He was very good though and got us through to become who we are today. There's something about him that rubbed me the wrong way but I shouldn't let that cloud his skill level and what he brought.

Was it that he was a clenched-teeth-talker?  Nichols wouldn't open his mouth if his life depended on it.  It's like he had lockjaw or was constantly training to be a ventriloquist.

Always irked me!  Still love the guy.
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: LXTSN on August 01, 2025, 01:15:51 PM
Quote from: RebusRankin on July 31, 2025, 09:29:49 PMReinbold and Kelly were so bad, they help out Tim Burke because he's a clear third on the worst Bomber coaches since 1997 list despite being a brutal coach.

Glenn
Nichols
Buck
Agree with this order. Glenn could win you games and gave us the best look at a championship. Buck at his peak may have been better, but it would be close between those 2.
Nichols was great at not losing us games. Steady short game and let the receivers do their job. Once Collaros came aboard we realized how important the deep ball was to open up the field! Nichols probably had the best team around him of the three.
Buck had the big play ability and could run pretty well too (I recall a 50 yard rush TD). He just couldn't stay on the field.

The years in between these guys were absolutely brutal!
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: Jesse on August 01, 2025, 01:54:28 PM
Quote from: LXTSN on August 01, 2025, 01:15:51 PMAgree with this order. Glenn could win you games and gave us the best look at a championship. Buck at his peak may have been better, but it would be close between those 2.
Nichols was great at not losing us games. Steady short game and let the receivers do their job. Once Collaros came aboard we realized how important the deep ball was to open up the field! Nichols probably had the best team around him of the three.
Buck had the big play ability and could run pretty well too (I recall a 50 yard rush TD). He just couldn't stay on the field.

The years in between these guys were absolutely brutal!

When was Buck at his peak?
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: LXTSN on August 01, 2025, 02:20:36 PM
Quote from: Jesse on August 01, 2025, 01:54:28 PMWhen was Buck at his peak?
I tried to find the year and I couldn't! Stats-wise he had a pretty bad career with the Bombers.
Must've been thinking of his first season with us (2010). After one of the worst seasons in Bomber history (2009), he felt like such an upgrade!
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on August 01, 2025, 03:06:30 PM
Quote from: LXTSN on August 01, 2025, 02:20:36 PMI tried to find the year and I couldn't! Stats-wise he had a pretty bad career with the Bombers.
Must've been thinking of his first season with us (2010). After one of the worst seasons in Bomber history (2009), he felt like such an upgrade!

2008 in BC was his best year statistically by a pretty wide margin.
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: Jesse on August 01, 2025, 04:26:53 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 01, 2025, 03:06:30 PM2008 in BC was his best year statistically by a pretty wide margin.

And it was still pretty bad.
Title: Re: Matt Nichols or Kevin Glenn Or Buck Pierce
Post by: blue_gold_84 on August 01, 2025, 05:27:50 PM
Quote from: Jesse on August 01, 2025, 04:26:53 PMAnd it was still pretty bad.

He had flashes but never any sustained success due to injuries.

But man, did he play with passion.