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Title: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: Pigskin on June 28, 2025, 04:33:18 AM
Great way to kick off the greatest show on earth. Bomber game on Thursday night, Stampede starts on Friday. Probably have to wait till Monday to get a injury report. Like to see BO20 return for this one.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: Blue In BC on June 28, 2025, 02:24:01 PM
Calgary has a bunch of serious injuries including to their MLB. Might see Bighill or Wilson activated but they don't have much time to get up to speed on their defence.

I think we see a successful run game this week by the Bombers.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: The Zipp on June 28, 2025, 04:58:14 PM
this one could be a challenge - i think we lost last year there.

can't take a quarter off on offense.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: Blue In BC on June 28, 2025, 06:03:52 PM
Sure. If Adams gets hot he can beat a team nearly by himself. Keeping in mind they also lost Begelton. That's another big blow.

Overall the DL has to do a better job forcing him to hurry and commit errors. We can't just rely on the secondary from making big plays if he gets too long to throw.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 28, 2025, 06:18:59 PM
Quote from: The Zipp on June 28, 2025, 04:58:14 PMthis one could be a challenge - i think we lost last year there.

can't take a quarter off on offense.

Stamps are a much better team than they were last season, last game was a weather anomaly.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: Pete on June 28, 2025, 09:55:43 PM
So far this season we are seeing a side benefit to not signing Lawler, namely a much better spread out of passes to all his receivers.
When lawler was here Zac would go to him multiple times when he was covered hence his lower catch to target ratio. Now Zac is looking more to all his receivers.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: Blue In BC on June 28, 2025, 10:32:06 PM
Quote from: Pete on June 28, 2025, 09:55:43 PMSo far this season we are seeing a side benefit to not signing Lawler, namely a much better spread out of passes to all his receivers.
When lawler was here Zac would go to him multiple times when he was covered hence his lower catch to target ratio. Now Zac is looking more to all his receivers.

Was that Collaros or play calling with Pierce. Could be a bit of both. In any case, Lawler came down with a lot of those 50/50 balls.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: dd on June 29, 2025, 03:37:09 AM
Quote from: Pete on June 28, 2025, 09:55:43 PMSo far this season we are seeing a side benefit to not signing Lawler, namely a much better spread out of passes to all his receivers.
When lawler was here Zac would go to him multiple times when he was covered hence his lower catch to target ratio. Now Zac is looking more to all his receivers.
I really like our offense this year vs pierce era. Way less predictable
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 29, 2025, 04:27:58 AM
Quote from: Pete on June 28, 2025, 09:55:43 PMSo far this season we are seeing a side benefit to not signing Lawler, namely a much better spread out of passes to all his receivers.

Lawler is proving that he's not worth anywhere near what HAM paid him.  Sure he's making some circus catches still, but just like with us in '24, he's dropping probably 66% of them.  Yet he's making enough to demand him making 66%.

And he still has the small mental mistakes that turn potential catches into non-catches.

I'd still love to have Kenny, but at the $200k level we were paying, not the $300k level.  I'll take E.Lewis @$250 before Kenny @$300.

That said, he's a boon to BLM because BLM is really inaccurate when it comes to range.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 29, 2025, 07:10:31 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 29, 2025, 04:27:58 AMLawler is proving that he's not worth anywhere near what HAM paid him.  Sure he's making some circus catches still, but just like with us in '24, he's dropping probably 66% of them.  Yet he's making enough to demand him making 66%.

And he still has the small mental mistakes that turn potential catches into non-catches.

I'd still love to have Kenny, but at the $200k level we were paying, not the $300k level.  I'll take E.Lewis @$250 before Kenny @$300.

That said, he's a boon to BLM because BLM is really inaccurate when it comes to range.

Thing about making circus catches the receiver usually ends up on the ground and gains zero YAC, I'll take a Demski reception over a Lawler reception anyday.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: Blueforlife on June 29, 2025, 07:45:00 AM
Lawler is better than some are suggesting imo
He is just expensive
We are lucky to have depth, more important
The Bombers are smart not to overpay most players, it's such a balancing act and we have perfected it
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: Jesse on June 29, 2025, 01:23:55 PM
Quote from: Pete on June 28, 2025, 09:55:43 PMSo far this season we are seeing a side benefit to not signing Lawler, namely a much better spread out of passes to all his receivers.
When lawler was here Zac would go to him multiple times when he was covered hence his lower catch to target ratio. Now Zac is looking more to all his receivers.

I honestly think this is a fan narrative. Zach always spreads the ball out well.

If you look at 2023, when everyone was healthy the whole year (aside Kenny because he never played the whole year):

Schoen led the team with targets with 111, Demski and Lawler were in the 80s, Bailey had 70, Woli 64, and Brady had 48. If you prorated Lawler for a full season, he would have had 120ish.

That's a pretty good split across 5 receivers and your RB.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: Blue In BC on June 29, 2025, 01:56:32 PM
I see we're practising today. Not sure if this is a 3 practice week or 2 with walk through. Anyway, we'll see if Oliveria is a possibility to return to the roster.

I won't be entirely surprised if Demski, Clercius and Wheatfall see lighter duty for day one. They've been battered and bruised and might need another easier day.

Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: Jesse on June 29, 2025, 02:22:46 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 29, 2025, 01:56:32 PMI see we're practising today. Not sure if this is a 3 practice week or 2 with walk through. Anyway, we'll see if Oliveria is a possibility to return to the roster.

I won't be entirely surprised if Demski, Clercius and Wheatfall see lighter duty for day one. They've been battered and bruised and might need another easier day.



If we're practicing today, it could be 3 + walk through. No need to travel on Wednesday, right? We could fly in Thursday before the game.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 29, 2025, 05:01:25 PM
Quote from: Jesse on June 29, 2025, 02:22:46 PMIf we're practicing today, it could be 3 + walk through. No need to travel on Wednesday, right? We could fly in Thursday before the game.

Do they do that often? Sure it's possible but it would make for a long day and could put many out of rhythm with their sleep cycle.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 29, 2025, 05:03:23 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 29, 2025, 01:56:32 PMI see we're practising today. Not sure if this is a 3 practice week or 2 with walk through. Anyway, we'll see if Oliveria is a possibility to return to the roster.

I won't be entirely surprised if Demski, Clercius and Wheatfall see lighter duty for day one. They've been battered and bruised and might need another easier day.



Derek Taylor🏈
@DTonOB

Big news from day 1 of Bombers practice: MOP/RB Brady Oliveira is back on the field. He's missed the last two games with injury.
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Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: gobombersgo on June 29, 2025, 05:11:47 PM
Quote from: Jesse on June 29, 2025, 02:22:46 PMIf we're practicing today, it could be 3 + walk through. No need to travel on Wednesday, right? We could fly in Thursday before the game.
For away games they just do the walkthough at the hotel the day before the game.

The team normally flies in the day before the game during the regular season.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: The Zipp on June 29, 2025, 05:33:52 PM
from DT:

REC Keric Wheatfall is practicing after leaving Thursday's game with injury. He's in his regular spot with the starters.

Oliveira's return would mean the Bombers could go back to Micah Vanterpool at LG if they choose. We'll see what happens when 12-on-12 starts today.

Gavin Cobb in for Nic Demski in this padded session.
Gabe Wallace at left guard.

Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: Blueforlife on June 29, 2025, 06:28:45 PM
All very good news.  Will be a dog fight this game.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: Blue In BC on June 29, 2025, 06:41:57 PM
Quote from: The Zipp on June 29, 2025, 05:33:52 PMfrom DT:

REC Keric Wheatfall is practicing after leaving Thursday's game with injury. He's in his regular spot with the starters.

Oliveira's return would mean the Bombers could go back to Micah Vanterpool at LG if they choose. We'll see what happens when 12-on-12 starts today.

Gavin Cobb in for Nic Demski in this padded session.
Gabe Wallace at left guard.



Good news overall. I thought Demski would see limited sessions today. He knows what he needs to know and letting the back up get some reps is not a bad idea.

So we're going to have some options this week but whether we choose to hold back another week, IDK. It's not like we have to make changes but a healthy Oliveria is something you'd have to do if he's ready.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: Pigskin on June 29, 2025, 07:40:38 PM
Quote from: The Zipp on June 29, 2025, 05:33:52 PMfrom DT:

REC Keric Wheatfall is practicing after leaving Thursday's game with injury. He's in his regular spot with the starters.

Oliveira's return would mean the Bombers could go back to Micah Vanterpool at LG if they choose. We'll see what happens when 12-on-12 starts today.

Gavin Cobb in for Nic Demski in this padded session.
Gabe Wallace at left guard.



Good to hear Wheat is okay. He was feeling it on the bench, you could tell he was in pain. Need to take that hit out of football.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: gobombersgo on June 29, 2025, 08:16:11 PM
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: gobombersgo on June 29, 2025, 08:16:48 PM
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.
Post by: Blueforlife on June 29, 2025, 10:51:20 PM
Injuries