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With the Blue Bombers main training camp starting May 11th, news and views on the team can take place here.

The current team roster follows and any changes to it can be monitored going forward...

https://www.bluebombers.com/roster/

I wouldn't be surprised to see (DB) Dexter Lawson in the mix for a starting spot.

Ayers was excellent on teams last season, like to see him play a little more LB. 

Munier-Bailey is another player I will be watching.  He has the size , speed and big motor.

So is Collaros able to practice with the 1 game suspension Or when does it take effect once the final rosters are declared?

Similar question for Schoen and Lawson but I had the impression they would be non counters for the moment and not participating in TC just yet?

I like Ayers but see an issue with 4 import LB's and can't see all of them on the AR because of ratio. Something has to give.

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 10, 2025, 09:21:53 PMSo is Collaros able to practice with the 1 game suspension Or when does it take effect once the final rosters are declared?

Similar question for Schoen and Lawson but I had the impression they would be non counters for the moment and not participating in TC just yet?

I like Ayers but see an issue with 4 import LB's and can't see all of them on the AR because of ratio. Something has to give.

Pretty sure the release said that he is not restricted in any way other than playing the season opener.

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 10, 2025, 09:21:53 PMSo is Collaros able to practice with the 1 game suspension Or when does it take effect once the final rosters are declared?

Similar question for Schoen and Lawson but I had the impression they would be non counters for the moment and not participating in TC just yet?

I like Ayers but see an issue with 4 import LB's and can't see all of them on the AR because of ratio. Something has to give.

I think Ayers has a great shot at replacing Wilson

Quote from: Pigskin on May 10, 2025, 08:34:06 PMI wouldn't be surprised to see (DB) Dexter Lawson in the mix for a starting spot.

Ayers was excellent on teams last season, like to see him play a little more LB. 

Munier-Bailey is another player I will be watching.  He has the size , speed and big motor.

i think Munier=Bailey made Gowanlock expendable, they liked him even before he was designated a global. If Ayers replaces Wilson they should sign him to an extension. Seems like every time we develope a younger player we lose him or have to pay a premium cause other teams bid on them.

Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 10, 2025, 10:12:52 PMI think Ayers has a great shot at replacing Wilson

Maybe, but if they were ready to move on from Kyrie I'm not sure they would have extended him this past winter. Same goes for Jake, Neuf or any of the other old dogs.

Wilson will remain a starter imo, Ayers will continue to develop and take the next step to be sure.  We are deep at LB.

Quote from: Blueforlife on May 11, 2025, 02:24:30 AMWilson will remain a starter imo, Ayers will continue to develop and take the next step to be sure.  We are deep at LB.

You're assuming Wilson will make it through the first 12 seconds of training camp which seems like even odds.

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 10, 2025, 09:21:53 PMSo is Collaros able to practice with the 1 game suspension Or when does it take effect once the final rosters are declared?

In past suspensions I think they are banned from practicing that week before the game?  If correct that would allow him to play/practice TC/PS but no practice in the gap between week 1 & 2.

Going to be a cooker the next few days.  Hopefully no wildfire smoke.

Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 10, 2025, 10:12:52 PMI think Ayers has a great shot at replacing Wilson

Bombers signed J. Jones who I expected to be the starter at WIL. He's being paid about $120K so that suggests he's at least going to be a DI. Wilson could end up as a DI or he could get beat out by Ayers.

This is really a TBD issue and could work out in different ways. On one hand I'd hate to see Wilson go but our depth at LB is very good.

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 11, 2025, 01:08:20 PMBombers signed J. Jones who I expected to be the starter at WIL. He's being paid about $120K so that suggests he's at least going to be a DI. Wilson could end up as a DI or he could get beat out by Ayers.

This is really a TBD issue and could work out in different ways. On one hand I'd hate to see Wilson go but our depth at LB is very good.

I Should have said Ayers/Jones. I was more replying to your comment about 4 IMP LB's.
I agree that prime Wilson wins out easily. We rarely see that though, and it really might be time to move on from him.

Today and tomorrow before a further reduction of 10 players. OTOH the Bombers have a few extra days after that before their 1st pre season game. That gives some rookies a bit longer to determine their ranking on the depth chart.

Seeing who plays and how well in the 1st game might set the fate for some.  IMO those rookies playing in the 1st game have a better chance than those in game 2 to make the roster in some fashion. Game 2 we might see more veterans getting some game time, so less rookie snap counts until Q4?

Obviously a few rookies have had some good press but that can change when the rubber hits the road. There are so many players fighting for so few spots.

We have 10 rookie DB's for example. 6 rookie WR's along with 4 CFL veterans and 3 from 2024 PR.

I hope we don't have the early injuries in the first few days that we had in 2024. 

Do we see any last minute shuffle on the roster of adds or deletions?

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 11, 2025, 03:58:57 AMYou're assuming Wilson will make it through the first 12 seconds of training camp which seems like even odds.

I'll take that action

Derek Taylor
TRAINING CAMP IS OPEN!!

Early question of who and where:
Jamal Parker is at safety
Marquis Bridges is at field corner
Kyrie Wilson and Tony Jones at linebacker.

To add...Tui Eli at left guard

WR Dalton Schoen and DT Cam Lawson are here doing some running off to the side. Both were placed on the injured veteran list midweek.

Jerreth Sterns is in with the first group of receivers. That will be a big question between now and the season opener: who joins Mitchell, Schoen, Demski and Clercius.

Sterns looked great in the 1 on 1 drills.
DB Cam Allen may have had the best play: he read a in-breaking route so well that the the QB didn't even throw it. Never seen that before.

*EDIT*
Four guys were not out for day 1.
DB Jake Kelly still rehabbing his late-season injury, per O'Shea.
DT Devin Adams excused from practice today.
Rookie DT Trey Laing away for personal reasons. And rookie P James Evans "is on his way".

Darrin Bauming
Good morning, Winnipeg. Blue #Bombers training camp officially kicks off in about one hour, and here is how the roster looks on Day 1.
* Post includes training camp roster (https://x.com/DarrinBauming/status/1921551234671984950)

For those eagle-eyed in attendance, the QB wearing No. 7 (not listed here) is CFL QB Internship Program player Cole Anseeuw of the @MBBisons

Willie Jefferson @Stmn_Willie_Bmn breaks it down to launch Day 1 of 2025 training camp.
* Post includes a video (https://x.com/DarrinBauming/status/1921588992098607224)

Dalton Schoen is here after inking a one-year contract extension on Feb. 1. He is not yet participating (on the 'injured veteran list' while wrapping his recovery from a knee injury that saw him miss most of 2024), but I'm told he is expected to be ready to go Week 2 when the #Bombers open their regular season on Jun. 12. (Winnipeg holds a Week 1 bye)

Ed Tait
Training Camp '25 Preview @Wpg_BlueBombers
https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/11/training-camp-25-preview/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/11/training-camp-25-preview/)

Camp opens with Dalton Schoen, Cam Lawson and Jake Kelly not practising but doing field work. Also out AK Gassama

John Hodge
Day one of Winnipeg Blue Bombers training camp is in full swing.

Jamal Parker, in at safety, picks off Zach Collaros.

Quote from: Stats Junkie on May 11, 2025, 05:29:46 PMDerek Taylor
TRAINING CAMP IS OPEN!!

Early question of who and where:
Jamal Parker is at safety
Marquis Bridges is at field corner
Kyrie Wilson and Tony Jones at linebacker.

To add...Tui Eli at left guard

Not at all what I expected, lol.

Quote from: Jesse on May 11, 2025, 05:48:21 PMNot at all what I expected, lol.

Interesting spot for Parker. They likely know what he can do at field corner. He's not the typical body type you want as a safety though so we'll see how much of a look he gets there I guess. 

Tua starting at guard is the typical O'Shea loyalty play. We'll see how long that lasts too.

Day 1 comments from coach O'Shea...

Interesting, effectively moving to 6 DB's in the backfield.  Wondering if they will play different SAM and FS  on running vs. passing downs.

Eli at LG is surprising, will be interesting to see how that develops though camp.

Quote from: Jesse on May 11, 2025, 05:48:21 PMNot at all what I expected, lol.

Means nothing other than he's first in line to get reps.

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 11, 2025, 05:53:41 PMInteresting spot for Parker. They likely know what he can do at field corner. He's not the typical body type you want as a safety though so we'll see how much of a look he gets there I guess. 

Tua starting at guard is the typical O'Shea loyalty play. We'll see how long that lasts too.

I can see Parker at safety.

The defence lines up in so many different ways, I'm not paying too much attention to "starters". But we definitely leaned more into a coverage heavy style last season, and Parker as a ballhawk in the back field as opposed to a guy who plays closer to the line makes sense to me.

Quote from: Jesse on May 11, 2025, 11:46:38 PMI can see Parker at safety.

The defence lines up in so many different ways, I'm not paying too much attention to "starters". But we definitely leaned more into a coverage heavy style last season, and Parker as a ballhawk in the back field as opposed to a guy who plays closer to the line makes sense to me.

Parker and Holm are the 2 fastest of the returning DB's, both are good solo tacklers, Holm is too valuable to move away from HB as he helps initiate new corners.

Brady Oliviera on day 1 of training camp...

Parker made a great pick today.

Strev never missed a rep. Other than some kind of sleeve on his one leg you'd never know he was ever hurt. Same Strev.  All the QB's looked good. There was a guy not on the roster, not sure who that was but he looked the most tentative. I didn't think Patterson looked like a vet as much as he should have. Probably the depth chart stays the same for now.

A lot of receivers impressed me especially Myron Mitchell, Stearns and of course Demski was the best. He runs like a kid out there. It's going to be a while before this group gets sorted out.

Over all a lot of rust, as you would expect, with a few of the vets standing out.

Where is Jarious Jackson?

There was no kicking that I saw and I pay less attention to the linemen compared to the "skill" positions, just more fun to watch for me.

honorable mentions: Cobb, Logan, Dexter Lawson.

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 11, 2025, 05:53:41 PMInteresting spot for Parker. They likely know what he can do at field corner. He's not the typical body type you want as a safety though so we'll see how much of a look he gets there I guess. 

Ya, I can see Parker @FS.  However, since it's been like 450+ days since I've seen him on the field, I don't really remember his body type.

Is he a BA37 bruiser, or a Dequoy lightweight track star?  Your comment doesn't say, because it all depends which body type one wants!  :D

From memory he a tweener, not too tall, not too big, not too small.  So that would make him a compromise FS, trying to have our cake and eat it to?  Of course, my memory from '23 could be hazy.

Quote from: Stats Junkie on May 11, 2025, 05:29:46 PMTo add...Tui Eli at left guard

That's the shocker so far.  If it means something (if!), then everyone lost their bet!  No one saw that coming.  To be honest he stunk badly when injury subbing at G or C in his few chances last year.

A bit small for interior run support, and probably has the issue MOS says most young NAT OL have: weak on pass-pro (until they learn).

So, has he learned?  He's had enough years!  You reach a point you ain't getting better, though.

LOL, in the MOS presser posted above the reporter says Wallace said he's been purposely losing weight.  That's pretty funny (and cool?), as my inside skinny on a vet CFL OL says that he had to do the opposite: eat non-stop on purpose to bulk up before TC.

Wallace is just naturally gifted with bulk!  ;D

Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 12, 2025, 05:28:06 AMThat's the shocker so far.  If it means something (if!), then everyone lost their bet!  No one saw that coming.  To be honest he stunk badly when injury subbing at G or C in his few chances last year.

A bit small for interior run support, and probably has the issue MOS says most young NAT OL have: weak on pass-pro (until they learn).

So, has he learned?  He's had enough years!  You reach a point you ain't getting better, though.

I wouldn't be surprised if SBaG is right and it was a loyalty move. Get the first snap because you've been here the longest and then back to the actual plan.

Quote from: Jesse on May 12, 2025, 11:04:22 AMI wouldn't be surprised if SBaG is right and it was a loyalty move. Get the first snap because you've been here the longest and then back to the actual plan.

ANd if we do go 3 Imps on the OLine, his spot on the AR is iffy. Would he take a PR spot?
I do agree it was a loyalty thing, giving him 1st crack to prove what he can do.

Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 12, 2025, 11:54:25 AMANd if we do go 3 Imps on the OLine, his spot on the AR is iffy. Would he take a PR spot?
I do agree it was a loyalty thing, giving him 1st crack to prove what he can do.

We've had a 7th OL on the roster for the last 2 years. Even if we go to a 3 import OL, I don't think he's spot on the AR is at risk. I suspect that is true regardless of who starts.

Drafting Elgersma was a bit of a risk and I hope he does well in Green Bay.  OTOH we may still see him by mid season. Time will tell.

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 12, 2025, 03:12:57 PMWe've had a 7th OL on the roster for the last 2 years. Even if we go to a 3 import OL, I don't think he's spot on the AR is at risk. I suspect that is true regardless of who starts.

This, if they go 3 imports on the O-line, Eli and Wallace roles won't change much from last season, they still see plenty of action in 6 man sets and can back up any of the interior positions.

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 12, 2025, 03:38:03 PMDrafting Elgersma was a bit of a risk and I hope he does well in Green Bay.  OTOH we may still see him by mid season. Time will tell.

I think the risk is small...he'll do his NFL tryout circuit and be back to try and catch on with us

If he truly is an NFL talent then nothing was going to keep him from that league. They relentlessly scout QB talent.

Best case scenario for us he spends a year getting schooled by one of the great landing places for young NFL QBs.

Worst case we never see him again but that's the way the draft goes.

Was absolutely worth the draft risk either way.

Reminder - Tomorrow (May 13) is an important date.  Rosters are reduced to 75 players.  Believe we are currently at 96 players on the roster.

Derek Taylor
Day 2 of Bombers camp. Rookie DE Kemari Munier-Bailey appear to be sitting out a second straight day. He's here, but no helmet. Still haven't spotted DB Patrick Rogers today. He's been one of the candidates to play corner.

Myron Mitchell working with the 1st team receivers ahead of Dillon Mitchell today.

Willie Jefferson just ate up a screen pass. Great read that gave Streveler nothing..had to throw it away.

Terrell Bonds with an interception on the first rep of 12 on 12. Took it to the house, then to the bench and called for his backup to go in. He'd done enough I guess

Full roll to his right Shea Patterson throws a laser to David Wallis for a great completion.


Darrin Bauming
Mike O'Shea just paused Day 2 of camp to call everyone in and ask for leadership It's been a bit sloppy this morning with offsides, ball mismanagement, etc, and subsequently, pushups.

Bauming also re-posted
from Tom Pelissero (https://x.com/TomPelissero/status/1921935113719308591)
Former Wilfrid Laurier Golden Hawks QB Taylor Elgersma signed with the #Packers today, per his agent Craig Schaeffer. Elgersma, who won Canada's version of the Heisman last year, tried out at Green Bay's rookie camp over the weekend. Now, pen to paper.

I am surprised to see Dillon Mitchell looking so average, at least early. Myron Mitchell and Stearns both looking better. Myron M. seems to have taken a step forward this year. Wallis looked good on the one pass noted by Derek Taylor but also dropped one he should have had earlier.

As far as the QB's it's almost impossible to know what we have behind 8 and 17, they just don't get enough reps. With the full team it was a series with Collaros, Strev, Collaros again and then Strev again. Only then Wilson, Patterson and Artopoeus each get 3 reps, one of which is a running play. The 6th guy here never gets any reps, he's just doing the drills. Wilson did throw a beauty down the sidelines for a score though. He also appears to have taken a step forward which is good.

There was a good amount of kicking today. It was the same Sergio, he out kicked the new guy both in accuracy and distance into a pretty good wind. For the returners, Cobb looking solid fielding punts but Logan has the burst you want, 0 to 60 just like that. I could see Cobb as the new McRae, he seems good at everything.

You could hear O'Shea barking in the cheap seats when he called the team together after it got sloppy.


Other guys I noticed: Oliveira, Tony Jones, Willie Jefferson.

 Elgersma has only played Canadian college football, but is getting a chance in the NFL.

Contrary to Canadian football dogma.

It would be interesting to hear the training schedule that the young quarterbacks follow in off season.

Ongoing coaching? Drills, playbook study, and such like.

Do the returning guys like Wilson,  study Buck's playbook during the off season?

Need some help here.

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 12, 2025, 03:12:57 PMWe've had a 7th OL on the roster for the last 2 years. Even if we go to a 3 import OL, I don't think he's spot on the AR is at risk. I suspect that is true regardless of who starts.

Yes, 7. But if we go 3 IMP's, does that mean we keep 4 dressed? In that case maybe Vanterpool beats out Eli.
Either way one of those 2 will need to go to PR and I don't see Eli going back to that.  Ofcourse there is always a good chance that there is an injury and the 8th guy dresses.

Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 12, 2025, 09:19:49 PMYes, 7. But if we go 3 IMP's, does that mean we keep 4 dressed? In that case maybe Vanterpool beats out Eli.
Either way one of those 2 will need to go to PR and I don't see Eli going back to that.  Ofcourse there is always a good chance that there is an injury and the 8th guy dresses.

Yes and still yes. You can't just add Vanterpool as an extra DL. It's already a change in the ratio if Randolph starts. Very seldom any team dresses an import OL as a DI.

It's probable that if Randolph starts we only have 7 starting Canadians.

Quote from: Waffler on May 12, 2025, 09:03:15 PMI am surprised to see Dillon Mitchell looking so average, at least early. Myron Mitchell and Stearns both looking better. Myron M. seems to have taken a step forward this year. Wallis looked good on the one pass noted by Derek Taylor but also dropped one he should have had earlier.

I caught the last hour of practice today. I had the same thoughts on Dillon Mitchell, along with Keric Wheatfall and Reggie White Jr. Many of the other WRs were flying around and making plays, including Mitchell and Stearns.

Does Dillon think he is sure to get a starting job?

Our receiver battle will be epic! Thanks for the reports everyone, great stuff.  Guys from the deep south (minus the big boyz) must love this heat!  They will be cross on the weekend lol.

Quote from: markf on May 12, 2025, 10:59:33 PMDoes Dillon think he is sure to get a starting job?

My hour at practice isn't a fair sample size, but that's the thought that ran through my mind.

After dumping on a few of the receivers, here's a few players that caught my attention for positive reasons at today's practice:
 - Nick Demski: A real pro's pro. Busting his rear end on every snap and making everything look easy. Day 2, and he looked like he was in mid-season form.
 - Michael Chris-Ike: Looked surprisingly polished out there, catching the ball out of the backfield. Played fast whenever I was watching him.
 - AK Gassama: I didn't notice him catch any balls, but he is so smooth. Was really flying around out there.
 - Myron Mitchell: Of our "bigger-framed" receivers, he looked the most engaged and outwardly focussed on physically showing that he wants a spot.
 - Kevens Clercius: Like Chris-Ike, looks more polished. Was making everything look easy when the ball was thrown to him.
 - Gavin Cobb: Looked extremely quick and was gliding through his routes. Another guy who is showing that he wants a spot on this team.

From Ed Tait's Day 2 report
https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/12/blue-bombers-training-camp-report-day-2/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/12/blue-bombers-training-camp-report-day-2/)

FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH... Random thoughts after two days of Blue Bombers training camp:

-Read into this what you will, if anything, but the Blue Bombers No. 1 receiving corps to start sessions the last couple of days has featured Canadians Nic Demski and Kevens Clercius along with Keric Wheatfall and Myron Mitchell with reps also going to Dillon Mitchell, White, Jr. and Sterns.

Gabe Wallace and Tui Eli have been getting the majority of work in Dobson's old left guard spot, with Kyrie Wilson at weak-side linebacker and Marquise Bridges in Ford's cornerback spot and Jamal Parker, Jr. getting looks at safety.

-Defensive tackle Devin Adams was back on the field Monday after attending his Peru State graduation Saturday and then driving back to Winnipeg a day later. Global end Kemari Munier-Bailey has missed the first two days of main camp while Canadian defensive back Enock Makonzo left the field Tuesday with the aid of trainers after suffering an apparent arm/shoulder injury.

Day 2 comments from Coach O'Shea...

Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 12, 2025, 11:54:25 AMANd if we do go 3 Imps on the OLine, his spot on the AR is iffy. Would he take a PR spot?
I do agree it was a loyalty thing, giving him 1st crack to prove what he can do.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 12, 2025, 04:12:21 PMThis, if they go 3 imports on the O-line, Eli and Wallace roles won't change much from last season, they still see plenty of action in 6 man sets and can back up any of the interior positions.

Maybe BF73 meant that if Eli/Wallace are still relegated to 6th/7th, then one of the newest additions could steal one of their spots.  Which is possible.

However, Eli is pretty safe if another C who is better doesn't materialize.  That said, wasn't one of the new guys capable of snapping??

I'm pretty sure we have no sophomore NAT OL this season who isn't already on the AR.  Since we like to follow the process, it's unlikely anyone else (NAT) can leapfrog Eli/Wallace until '26.

Ed Tait's Main Camp report from Day 2...

https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/12/blue-bombers-training-camp-report-day-2/

Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 13, 2025, 07:08:20 AMMaybe BF73 meant that if Eli/Wallace are still relegated to 6th/7th, then one of the newest additions could steal one of their spots.  Which is possible.

However, Eli is pretty safe if another C who is better doesn't materialize.  That said, wasn't one of the new guys capable of snapping??

I'm pretty sure we have no sophomore NAT OL this season who isn't already on the AR.  Since we like to follow the process, it's unlikely anyone else (NAT) can leapfrog Eli/Wallace until '26.

I don't think the newly drafted guys will pass Eli, but if we had to lose one of the 7 regulars it would be Eli IMO.
He is a very good rotational guy, but will he ever be a starter?
Doesn't matter though as BlueinBC basically answered my thought with the Imp/Nat lineup that and changes shouldn't affect who we keep as depth. I just hope we can keep Vanterpool on the PR. We all know we'll soon need to replace Bryant/Neuf/Koko

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 12, 2025, 09:40:39 PMYes and still yes. You can't just add Vanterpool as an extra DL. It's already a change in the ratio if Randolph starts. Very seldom any team dresses an import OL as a DI.

It's probable that if Randolph starts we only have 7 starting Canadians.

Insufficient, injuries to one or two starting Natl's could put them in a world of trouble.

LOVE THIS NEWS!

https://3downnation.com/2025/05/13/winnipeg-blue-bombers-bring-back-longtime-db-brandon-alexander-as-guest-coach/

According to Ed Tait, Alexander will transition to a new role as amateur football ambassador once training camp is over.

Derek Taylor
Early start for day 3 of Bombers camp. Rookie punter James Evans is here for his first day. He was the Bombers 2nd-round pick in this year's Global draft

All Tui Eli at left guard with the 1st team in the early sessions. Gabe Wallace has been the 6th and with the 2nd team.

Second straight day of Dillon Mitchell working with the second group of receivers. Curious if this is a thing. Or the team just wants a deeper look at someone else, knowing Mitchell can do the job.

I don't see DB Patrick Rogers, LB Jaylen Smith nor DB Enock Makonzo out for camp today. Rogers missed yesterday sand Makonzo appeared to hurt an arm/shoulder yesterday.
I see Jaylen Smith now as they begin individual drills

Both kickers stroking 50+ yarders at the midpoint of practice today.

THE PADS ARE GOING ON!!!

DB Marquise Bridges brings a load in these drills. Really laying it on receivers trying to block him

S Cam Allen read the in-breaking route and jumps it for an INT off Collaros. Allen seems very sharp with his ability to read receivers and concepts. Plus, he's a big, long athlete. Safety 2 so far in camp.


Ed Tait
A familiar face has joined @Wpg_BlueBombers training camp as a guest coach. Brandon Alexander will be helping out the coaching staff during camp and then transition into a new role as an Amateur Football Ambassador.
* re-posted by Derek Taylor

Day 3 of  @Wpg_BlueBombers Training camp well underway this morning
* short video in post (https://x.com/EdTaitWFC/status/1922310500827938956)

Alexander is a class guy. Moving into coaching could be a good thing for him going forward.

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 13, 2025, 05:04:18 PMAlexander is a class guy. Moving into coaching could be a good thing for him going forward.

Richie Hall can't hang on forever, good to maintain position nearby.

Huddle - Episode 3 just started

Guest is Danny McManus

Breaking News off the top of the show
Blue Bombers have signed LB Connor Shay

Quote from: Stats Junkie on May 13, 2025, 08:07:21 PMBreaking News off the top of the show
Blue Bombers have signed LB Connor Shay

Best thing I've heard all day!

Excerpts from Ed Tait's Day 3 Report
https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/13/blue-bombers-training-camp-report-day-3/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/13/blue-bombers-training-camp-report-day-3/)

The Winnipeg Blue Bombers quarterback room is an intriguing mix, featuring a future hall of famer, a fan favourite coming off knee surgery, a second-year man who grew comfortable with every snap a season ago, a Canadian Football League vet attempting to put down roots and a fresh-faced rookie still trying to get his bearings.

Chase Artopoeus is the newcomer, FYI, and was placed on the Blue Bombers negotiation list last December after his final season at the University of Tennessee-Chattanooga and just signed to join the club a couple of weeks ago.

WELCOME ABOARD, SHAY: The Blue Bombers announced this afternoon that linebacker Connor Shay — the club's first pick, 6th overall in the 2025 CFL Draft — has signed with the club. The Wyoming linebacker started all 12 games for the Cowboys last year with 76 total tackles 7.5 tackles for loss, 1.5 sacks, and one interception.

WELCOME BACK, B.A.: A familiar face was back on the field at Blue Bombers practice on Tuesday morning as Brandon Alexander is now a guest coach during training camp and will then transition into a new role as an Amateur Football Ambassador with the club.

For what it's worth, more random thought on the third day of Blue Bombers training camp...

-Global punter James Evans was on the field for the first time after attending his graduation at Indiana and when he was on, crushed a few kicks into the stratosphere on Tuesday.

-Kevens Clercius latched on to a Collaros pass and took it the distance in one of the morning's highlights. He'll be counted on to take another step after a rookie campaign in which he started 12 games plus the West Final and Grey Cup.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 13, 2025, 03:59:28 PMInsufficient, injuries to one or two starting Natl's could put them in a world of trouble.

But almost every other team does it almost always (start 7).  An injury to a starting NAT every game is not inevitable, or common, or even infrequent.  It's rare.

And you can even exclude the OL because they are (almost) always covered by 2 backup NATs.  So really, it's (usually) 4 guys out of the 24 starters you need to worry about.

Maybe 1 starter injury every 2-3 games, and only 4/24 starters can bite you.  I calculate that at around 5% dice roll every time.  Certainly livable odds!

Nice updates on camp updates.it would be nice to see Schoen back out there on the field but seems pretty healthy looking so far. Other than Collaros any of the QBs look serviceable if not good?

Some interesting cuts , we let Shea Patterson go.( Along with  American receiver Scott Brown, American offensive lineman Austin Euler, defensive lineman Ryan Johnson, defensive backs Patrick Rogers and Marcus Hillman, and American kicker Andrew Mevis.)The only other minor surprise was Rogers but it sounds like Gowan,Veval and Cam Allen beat him out
 Looks like we go with Zac,Strev and Wilson , with newcomer Chase on pr.
On another note Ol national Black was cut , I hope we're interested as hes from Manitoba (even if its for depth)

Blue Bombers Transactions - Training Camp Cuts


WINNIPEG, MB., May 14, 2025 – The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the following transactions:

Released from roster:

American defensive end Ryan Johnson
American defensive back Patrick Rogers
American offensive lineman Austin Euler
American quarterback Shea Patterson
American kicker Andrew Mevis
American defensive back Marcus Hillman
American receiver Scott Brown

 

Quote from: Pete on May 14, 2025, 02:26:02 PMSome interesting cuts , we let Shea Patterson go.( Along with  American receiver Scott Brown, American offensive lineman Austin Euler, defensive lineman Ryan Johnson, defensive backs Patrick Rogers and Marcus Hillman, and American kicker Andrew Mevis.)The only other minor surprise was Rogers but it sounds like Gowan,Veval and Cam Allen beat him out
 Looks like we go with Zac,Strev and Wilson , with newcomer Chase on pr.

I'd be surprised if they kept 4 QB's on the roster, Wilson is basically their young development QB so not much reason to keep another youngster around unless they see more upside in him. Lot's of interesting possibilities.
 
-Who becomes the SY QB and who steps in if Zach goes down?
   
-Will Wilson remain a clipboard QB that never touches the field?

-How long will Strev. stay healthy this season?

-Is this the year Zach finally spends time on the 6 game? 
(I've been expecting this since 2020!)


There's only one answer, it remains to be seen.

Derek Taylor
Day 4 of Bombers camp. RT Eric Lofton out today. He's in sweats watching practice. Kendall Randolph at tackle in the early going.

First day of camp for 1st-round pick Connor Shay. He's wearing #34.

Some shuffling going on in the receiver groups early in practice. Jaylen Hall and Cody Case up with the first team w/Demski, M.Mitchell and Sterns.

Deatrick Nichols with a nice undercut INT on a Desmki crosser! Terrell Bonds had INTd the first play of 12 on 12.

Jerreth Sterns as a horizontal weapon seems very 😋 in this Bombers O

THE PADS ARE GOING ON!!!

Can confirm that guest coach Brandon Alexander still have great push-up form.

Trey Vaval with the interception of Streveler...more on a strong day for the defense


DT responses to questions
Q  What's going on with Dillon Mitchell? I thought for sure he'd be with the first-team.
DT  That one is curious. Not sure if it's reflective of his play or if they just want a longer look at someone else, knowing what Mitchell can bring. I lean to the latter, but can't be sure.

Q  Kind of surprised Mevis was cut. I thought for sure they would keep him through the preseason. Any insight on that particular situation?
DT  Not really. Tough to beat out Sergio Castillo. Wonder if they figure another guy can help out in kicking.

Q  While I've got you thinking about special teams, what do you think about the competition at LS and Punter? My theory is that there could be a new name for 2026.
DT  The LS is very interesting. They took Leroux in the 4th last year for a reason. Can they PR him for a whole season? I'll be excited to see more from Evans now that he's in camp. Beating out the incumbent feels tough with these Bombers.

Quote from: Pete on May 14, 2025, 02:26:02 PMSome interesting cuts , we let Shea Patterson go.( Along with  American receiver Scott Brown, American offensive lineman Austin Euler, defensive lineman Ryan Johnson, defensive backs Patrick Rogers and Marcus Hillman, and American kicker Andrew Mevis.)The only other minor surprise was Rogers but it sounds like Gowan,Veval and Cam Allen beat him out
 Looks like we go with Zac,Strev and Wilson , with newcomer Chase on pr.
On another note Ol national Black was cut , I hope we're interested as hes from Manitoba (even if its for depth)

I'd pickup Dayton Black and give him a look see, young kid from Brandon, got decent size and played last year, not sure why Hamilton of all places cut him

The answer to the Mevis cut question is likely that Castillo isn't going to lose his job and to get to the cutdown number it makes more sense to make that decision now and let the positions with competitions take up the valuable spots.

Turns out Connor Shay is a fake Canadian, this is only the second time he's ever been in Canada and he doesn't remember where in Canada his Dad was born. 


Seems like a smart kid.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 14, 2025, 06:41:44 PMTurns out Connor Shay is a fake Canadian, this is only the second time he's ever been in Canada and he doesn't remember where in Canada his Dad was born. 

Yeah, we knew that.

The rule is stupid and makes no sense. Yes. But we discharged everyone's favourite Californian Canadian in the off season soooo...

Day 4 comments from Coach O'Shea...

Quote from: Jesse on May 14, 2025, 06:47:28 PMYeah, we knew that.

I didn't

Man that interview was MOS gold.  What a leader.  Special time to be a Bomber fan.

Sergio beat the kid Mevis out. Plain and simple. The new punter is interesting though. Today he was booming them from sideline to sideline on his own. BUT once they lined up as a team he shanked a few. He was great height on his punts, stronger leg than Sheehan and just 23 years old so maybe he has potential. My first thought was nerves and he doesn't know how to kick into a Winnipeg wind yet.

Sterns is becoming a Collaros favorite. In fact I thought Kenny Lawler was back for a second because Collaros threw to him in double coverage, on purpose it seemed. He must trust him. Even in practice Collaros favors his regulars and this makes me think Sterns is ahead right now. Still no Schoen of course. Dillon Mitchell continues to look uninterested. Not sure why.

Even with Ford gone, the DB's as a group are looking strong.  Hard to complete anything, coverage is tight all over the field.

I would love an update on Jarious Jackson. Personal matters have stretched into a week now. Must be serious.

Quote from: Waffler on May 14, 2025, 08:26:42 PMSergio beat the kid Mevis out. Plain and simple. The new punter is interesting though. Today he was booming them from sideline to sideline on his own. BUT once they lined up as a team he shanked a few. He was great height on his punts, stronger leg than Sheehan and just 23 years old so maybe he has potential. My first thought was nerves and he doesn't know how to kick into a Winnipeg wind yet.

Sterns is becoming a Collaros favorite. In fact I thought Kenny Lawler was back for a second because Collaros threw to him in double coverage, on purpose it seemed. He must trust him. Even in practice Collaros favors his regulars and this makes me think Sterns is ahead right now. Still no Schoen of course. Dillon Mitchell continues to look uninterested. Not sure why.

Haven't heard a single mention of Reggie White Jr. yet either, that can't be good. There's only two job opening for import receiver boys, better get after it.  D. Mitchell is explosive, so I could see him lighting it up in pre-seaon with a few big plays that will demonstrate his ability.

Makonzo moved to 6 game IR after sustaining injury earlier this week. Sorry to hear that. He was going to be a great addition to our depth.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 14, 2025, 09:01:38 PMHaven't heard a single mention of Reggie White Jr. yet either, that can't be good. There's only two job opening for import receiver boys, better get after it.  D. Mitchell is explosive, so I could see him lighting it up in pre-seaon with a few big plays that will demonstrate his ability.

I've noticed a few good plays from Reggie White Jr. A lot of bodies and a lot of talent here to sort through. I am thinking he will have his chances yet, he's still in the hunt.

With D Mitchell he may have to shine with a back up QB at this rate. Not sure if that helps him or hinders him since he could also be against a rookie db. You are right though, he could turn it on anytime. We are just wondering why he hasn't yet. 

I'm a little concerned reading the camp updates and seeing that Zack et al are getting picked quite frequently. Does this translate into last year with Zack throwing picks at the wrong time again. The advantage should be with the offence knowing the routes vs DB's who are reacting.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 14, 2025, 05:00:17 PM-Is this the year Zach finally spends time on the 6 game? 
(I've been expecting this since 2020!)

For all that is holy, go and knock some wood, dude!  Bad karma, argh!

Quote from: Stats Junkie on May 14, 2025, 05:53:49 PMSome shuffling going on in the receiver groups early in practice. Jaylen Hall and Cody Case up with the first team w/Demski, M.Mitchell and Sterns.

M.Mitchell getting a strange amount of love every day now.  Either they've seen a spark in him and he's gonna make the team, or they are kicking the tires repeatedly to ensure cutting him in a few days isn't a mistake.

If you asked me based on last year alone I would have said cut 'em.  I can't forget that fumble @PAS on a return that may have cost us a game (from memory, which is usually pretty good when it comes to negatives!).

Sometimes it takes these rookie IMPs that extra dev year to shine.  Maybe he's the next Pokey!

Quote from: Stats Junkie on May 14, 2025, 05:53:49 PMQ  What's going on with Dillon Mitchell? I thought for sure he'd be with the first-team.
DT That one is curious. Not sure if it's reflective of his play or if they just want a longer look at someone else, knowing what Mitchell can bring. I lean to the latter, but can't be sure.

D.Mitchell better understand that MOS is all about effort.  No one's job is safe if they're uninterested and aloof.

Quote from: Stats Junkie on May 14, 2025, 05:53:49 PMDT  The LS is very interesting. They took Leroux in the 4th last year for a reason. Can they PR him for a whole season? I'll be excited to see more from Evans now that he's in camp. Beating out the incumbent feels tough with these Bombers.

If Leroux is going into his 2nd year, then it may pay to actually NOT start him this year.  He's locked up, can dev and learn, and then be a cheap 2nd contract in FA.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 14, 2025, 06:41:44 PMTurns out Connor Shay is a fake Canadian, this is only the second time he's ever been in Canada and he doesn't remember where in Canada his Dad was born. 

I'm fine with fake Canadians.  If the league allows Canadian "by blood" then so be it.  They often are some of the best, since they get the advantage of full-on USA dev.  (Yes, Woli.)

Dude looks stout and legit in the vid.  Seems really smart, too.  He'll fit right in.

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 14, 2025, 10:35:39 PMMakonzo moved to 6 game IR after sustaining injury earlier this week. Sorry to hear that. He was going to be a great addition to our depth.

guy can't stay healthy; I can't see him factoring in at all in our plans going forward. When you sign someone with an injury history you're gambling that he's going to last  but doesn't always work out

Quote from: Horseman on May 14, 2025, 11:49:04 PMI'm a little concerned reading the camp updates and seeing that Zack et al are getting picked quite frequently. Does this translate into last year with Zack throwing picks at the wrong time again. The advantage should be with the offence knowing the routes vs DB's who are reacting.

Not concerned at all about Zach.  Give him protection and some weapons and he will shred a defense, always has always will.  Yes he will throw picks, likely at his average rate, which is low with a lot of TDs!

We have a lot of players fighting for positions. More feedback from practice would help when possible. Some spots seem relatively easy to determine or at least make a best guess.

OTOH, receiver and DB is wide open with so many new faces. We seem to have an abundance of talent but hard to tell who is rising above some others.

In general I usually expect some of the 2024 PR players to be displaced. OTOH, some are showing improvement and might surprise us?

Quote from: Horseman on May 14, 2025, 11:49:04 PMI'm a little concerned reading the camp updates and seeing that Zack et al are getting picked quite frequently. Does this translate into last year with Zack throwing picks at the wrong time again. The advantage should be with the offence knowing the routes vs DB's who are reacting.

Much easier for a DB to make a pick than a QB to make a throw to an unfamiliar target.  This does not worry me, in fact, its good, it says the DB's are ball hawking.

Quote from: Horseman on May 14, 2025, 11:49:04 PMI'm a little concerned reading the camp updates and seeing that Zack et al are getting picked quite frequently. Does this translate into last year with Zack throwing picks at the wrong time again. The advantage should be with the offence knowing the routes vs DB's who are reacting.

The thing I'll say here is, this is the time to throw interceptions.

If our QBs enter training camp afraid to make mistakes, and only make throws they know will be completed, they're not actually practicing. The is the time to test the speed and cuts of your receivers, the limits of your arm strength, how tight a window you can fit a call into, etc.

Does anyone ever go to these things still?

Perhaps we can convince Blue in BC to buy a cheap 1 bedroom condo and be our official camp/practise beat reporter... ;D

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 15, 2025, 07:31:10 PMDoes anyone ever go to these things still?

Perhaps we can convince Blue in BC to buy a cheap 1 bedroom condo and be our official camp/practise beat reporter... ;D

Maybe a posters group in Manitoba can buy or rent a cheap condo for me to spend a month in Winnipeg? I've got the time free.

:)

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 15, 2025, 08:20:31 PMMaybe a posters group in Manitoba can buy or rent a cheap condo for me to spend a month in Winnipeg? I've got the time free.

:)

:D

Derek Taylor
A little late start to the outdoor practice today with rain and lightning. DB Jamal Parker and RB Peyton Logan out today. Logan got nicked in yesterday's practice. Not sure about Parker

RT Eric Lofton out for a second straight day.

We've already had the highlight of Day 5 of camp: D players singing Sisqo's Thong Song in warmup

LB Lane Novak and DE Kemari Munier-Bailey both out today. Munier-Bailey hasn't practiced since day 1 of rookie camp.

THE PADS ARE GOING ON!!!

Streveler has a pretty substantial brace on his left knee. First noticed it yesterday.
I don't think he's missed a rep in camp so far through 8 days.

As they go to a padded run game drill there's a lot of chatter between O and D. The competition is fretting cranked up

WR Kody Case sitting bout (out?) this drill. Appeared to get injured easier (earlier?). Keric Wheatfall taking his place.

Rookie RB Matthew Peterson looked really, really good in that 1-on-1 blocking drill. A real fighter and was able to handle the power of bigger guys.

Walking wounded adding up. Hopefully nothing too serious but we aren't getting the specifics yet.

The Day 5 report mentions that Novak is getting some experience as a LS. Doesn't hurt to have that in his tool box.

Any word on how Randolph looked while getting reps at RT with Lofton out?

I think almost no one went to practice today. Rained and was on the field beside WSF, no cover. Tomorrow likely the same.

the Free Press has a nice article on Sterns today.

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/2025/05/15/big-potential-for-undersized-sterns
"The third-year pro is off to a strong start in his first camp with the
Blue and Gold and has already run into the good graces of quarterback
Zach Collaros.

"He's a pro. He learns it quick. He's a good communicator, he
communicates what he's seeing out there with me," Collaros said
Thursday.

After starting with the second team offence, Sterns has been running
with the likes of Collaros, Nic Demski, Brady Oliveira and the other
expected starters since Monday — while other receivers continue to
be shuffled around.

He hasn't dropped a pass thrown his way, and was quick to shoulder
the blame on Thursday when one of his targets was intercepted by Evan
Holm. After the play, he told Collaros what he should've done
instead, which impressed the veteran pivot because it was something
they hadn't covered together yet.

"He was right there, spot on with it," Collaros added. "I think
his talent speaks for itself. He's very fast. He gets in and out of
his cuts really well. He's done it at a high level.

"I thought he's brought a nice spark to our room and, again,
he's gonna get better and better as he learns this system and,
obviously, as we spend more time together."

Quote from: Stats Junkie on May 15, 2025, 08:51:45 PMDerek Taylor
A little late start to the outdoor practice today with rain and lightning. DB Jamal Parker and RB Peyton Logan out today. Logan got nicked in yesterday's practice. Not sure about Parker

RT Eric Lofton out for a second straight day.

We've already had the highlight of Day 5 of camp: D players singing Sisqo's Thong Song in warmup

LB Lane Novak and DE Kemari Munier-Bailey both out today. Munier-Bailey hasn't practiced since day 1 of rookie camp.

THE PADS ARE GOING ON!!!

Kyle jumped through a few hoops to bring in Munier-Bailey the DE edge rushing global player, hopefully they keep him around on the PR to take another look later on, despite missing most of TC so far. 

Wonder why they don't introduce a TC IR that operates for this type of situation?  Multiple players get injured in TC every year and cut shortly after because they could not participate.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 16, 2025, 01:03:22 AMKyle jumped through a few hoops to bring in Munier-Bailey the DE edge rushing global player, hopefully they keep him around on the PR to take another look later on, despite missing most of TC so far. 

Wonder why they don't introduce a TC IR that operates for this type of situation?  Multiple players get injured in TC every year and cut shortly after because they could not participate.

Money

Day 5 comments from Ed Tait...

https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/15/blue-bombers-training-camp-report-day-5/

Quote from: Jesse on May 15, 2025, 04:02:41 PMThe thing I'll say here is, this is the time to throw interceptions.

Yup, just like the practice sessions in F1 are the time to go off into the gravel or whack the wall.  You push to find the limits and dial in the perfect performance for game day.

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 15, 2025, 07:31:10 PMPerhaps we can convince Blue in BC to buy a cheap 1 bedroom condo and be our official camp/practise beat reporter... ;D

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 15, 2025, 08:20:31 PMMaybe a posters group in Manitoba can buy or rent a cheap condo for me to spend a month in Winnipeg? I've got the time free.

Gonna be tough to tear BinBC away from his nice warm, wet, hilly, rainforest home to spend time with the mosquitos!

That new apts/condos right at Bison & Pembina would be perfect, assuming his old(er) legs are still up to snuff for the short walk!  :D  :D  Someone check the airbnb rates there!  ;D  ;D  ;D

Quote from: Stats Junkie on May 15, 2025, 08:51:45 PMStreveler has a pretty substantial brace on his left knee. First noticed it yesterday.
I don't think he's missed a rep in camp so far through 8 days.

Don't get too excited.  I remember reading earlier (maybe even day 1) that Strev was looking like an android/robocop or whatever euphemism the writer used to indicate he had hardware on.  Can't remember who the writer was.

Anyhow, if Strev came in with a brace on purpose and is still wearing the brace, great.  Let him wear it, probably will into game 1.  Maybe it'll force him to focus more on the pocket passing rather than up-the-gut plowing.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 16, 2025, 06:11:26 AMDon't get too excited.  I remember reading earlier (maybe even day 1) that Strev was looking like an android/robocop or whatever euphemism the writer used to indicate he had hardware on.  Can't remember who the writer was.

Anyhow, if Strev came in with a brace on purpose and is still wearing the brace, great.  Let him wear it, probably will into game 1.  Maybe it'll force him to focus more on the pocket passing rather than up-the-gut plowing.

I would think it's Dr recommended. He is just as fast as ever though, I doubt he changes his in game play one bit. I just have more admiration for him with his recovery.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 16, 2025, 06:06:07 AMGonna be tough to tear BinBC away from his nice warm, wet, hilly, rainforest home to spend time with the mosquitos!

That new apts/condos right at Bison & Pembina would be perfect, assuming his old(er) legs are still up to snuff for the short walk!  :D  :D  Someone check the airbnb rates there!  ;D  ;D  ;D

LOL. :)

Quote from: Jesse on May 16, 2025, 02:13:39 AMMoney

Turns out they do make use of the 6-game during TC.

Enock Makonzo
2025-05-14   WPG   TRF TO SIX GAME INJURY   Six Game Injury

Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 16, 2025, 06:11:26 AMDon't get too excited.  I remember reading earlier (maybe even day 1) that Strev was looking like an android/robocop or whatever euphemism the writer used to indicate he had hardware on.  Can't remember who the writer was.

Anyhow, if Strev came in with a brace on purpose and is still wearing the brace, great.  Let him wear it, probably will into game 1.  Maybe it'll force him to focus more on the pocket passing rather than up-the-gut plowing.

The guy went up the gut with a broken foot, I don't think a knee brace will slow him down one iota.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 16, 2025, 04:41:03 PMTurns out they do make use of the 6-game during TC.

Enock Makonzo
2025-05-14   WPG   TRF TO SIX GAME INJURY   Six Game Injury

Using the 6 game in TC for legit injured players opens up a roster spot...

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 16, 2025, 04:41:03 PMTurns out they do make use of the 6-game during TC.

Also allows them to start the week 0 - week 1 gap on the 6GIR?  Buys us an extra game on the 6G (SMS repercussions)?

Ed Tait's comments on Day 6 of Training Camp...

https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/16/blue-bombers-training-camp-report-day-6/

Ed does his best but he never really talks about what is really happening at camp. Who looks hot who is not, etc... ::)

Bombers have a few players vying to be back up receivers: Adair, Cobb, Corcoran and Gassama. I can imagine 1 making the AR and 1 making the PR. Two at the most. Which of them can also play on ST's that improves their chances.

With the injury to Logan, we might see a 2nd make the AR as depth as a returner. That said, we have many imports that are receivers of DB's that might fall into that category. Either as starters or back ups as a DI.

Logan was added to the 1 game IR so hopefully he has time to get ready for game 2? That's June 21 so he has a little more than a month but he also could get extended on the 1 game IR. Anybody have an injury report on him?

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 17, 2025, 03:36:45 PMBombers have a few players vying to be back up receivers: Adair, Cobb, Corcoran and Gassama. I can imagine 1 making the AR and 1 making the PR. Two at the most. Which of them can also play on ST's that improves their chances.

With the injury to Logan, we might see a 2nd make the AR as depth as a returner. That said, we have many imports that are receivers of DB's that might fall into that category. Either as starters or back ups as a DI.

Logan was added to the 1 game IR so hopefully he has time to get ready for game 2? That's June 21 so he has a little more than a month but he also could get extended on the 1 game IR. Anybody have an injury report on him?

,
none of these really look to be an answer, all of whom were drafted in the 4th round or worse (Adair was undrafted) Our canadian receiver depth is weak especially given Demski seems to be always playing hurt after the first half of the season.  What hurts as well is that they deemed Woli expendable. (although looking at hamiltons depth chart one might become available (Hakunavanhu,, Wolitaski, Oleary-Orange, Smith, Ternowski)

MOS speaks today.  Doesn't sound overly impressed with Dillon Mitchell who is scheduled to make $160k this season, maybe cut him and replace him with a much cheaper option till Pokey comes back.  I see Reggie White packs 225 lbs on a 6'-2" frame, so he's solidly built.

Quote from: Pete on May 17, 2025, 09:39:56 PM,
none of these really look to be an answer, all of whom were drafted in the 4th round or worse (Adair was undrafted) Our canadian receiver depth is weak especially given Demski seems to be always playing hurt after the first half of the season.  What hurts as well is that they deemed Woli expendable. (although looking at hamiltons depth chart one might become available (Hakunavanhu,, Wolitaski, Oleary-Orange, Smith, Ternowski)

I count 8 Nat WR on Sask's roster.

Day 7 Training Camp report from Ed Tait...

https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/17/blue-bombers-training-camp-report-day-7/

Phillip Webb, (DE) could be the real deal. 6'5" 266, 81.5 wingspan, 4.67/40, with a very explosive first step, and excellent closing speed.

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 17, 2025, 03:36:45 PMBombers have a few players vying to be back up receivers: Adair, Cobb, Corcoran and Gassama. I can imagine 1 making the AR and 1 making the PR. Two at the most. Which of them can also play on ST's that improves their chances.

We rarely roster a backup pure REC.  I'm not sure we ever did even once in '24.

We use the backup NAT RB and the returner as the backup RECs.  Think Johnny and Lucky.  We use all the other "STer backup NATs" on D, and never DI a non-specialist on O.

So all those names above will either have to make starting REC, returner, or 2 will go on PR.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 18, 2025, 06:46:29 AMWe rarely roster a backup pure REC.  I'm not sure we ever did even once in '24.

We use the backup NAT RB and the returner as the backup RECs.  Think Johnny and Lucky.  We use all the other "STer backup NATs" on D, and never DI a non-specialist on O.

So all those names above will either have to make starting REC, returner, or 2 will go on PR.

Actually we did in the early games. Clercius was on the roster before Woli got injured. Murphy was active for one game as well.

It comes down to whether we have a quality back up that can rotate in while developing into a starter.

In 2024 we had 8 - 10 Canadians starting. So if we had a Canadian receiver injured it allowed using our returner on offence. That always has it's pros and cons tiring out his duty as a returner. Ratio didn't prevent that.

In 2025 we may not have the luxury of more than 7 Canadian starters and using our returner as a Canadian receiver replacement. Ratio concerns.

Among the " receiver " candidates, Gassama might also serve as a rotation player at RB.

Ultimately I won't be surprised to see a back up Canadian receiver this season because of ratio necessity.

Cobb has the most experience and can be used as a returner if necessary or when we send 2 back at times.

I don't expect any of these players to be starters unless we have an injury.

Blue Bombers Transactions - May 18, 2025

WINNIPEG, MB., May 18, 2025 – The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the following transactions:

Added to roster:

American defensive lineman Kevin Pointer (6-1, 285, Wake Forest)

I'll have the opportunity to go see camp Monday. I'll report my findings here.
Now that the Jets are done, time focus on more important items! :)

Hagerty transferred to 1 game IR.

Week 1 of Training Camp - Status Report...

https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/18/blue-bombers-training-camp-week-1-status-report/

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 18, 2025, 01:17:48 PMActually we did in the early games. Clercius was on the roster before Woli got injured. Murphy was active for one game as well.

I was more responding to your idea of ARing an IMP DI as bacup REC.  Ya, NATs occasionally get rostered to backup REC, but that's more a function of injury situation, and still somewhat rare.

I guess there could also be an aspect of still doing "tryouts" in the first few weeks that might allow an extra REC on AR.  But the usual situation is almost all those spare AR spots are used for D.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 19, 2025, 05:39:02 AMI was more responding to your idea of ARing an IMP DI as bacup REC.  Ya, NATs occasionally get rostered to backup REC, but that's more a function of injury situation, and still somewhat rare.

I guess there could also be an aspect of still doing "tryouts" in the first few weeks that might allow an extra REC on AR.  But the usual situation is almost all those spare AR spots are used for D.

Logan would have been the back receiver in his primary role as a returner ( DI spot ). Now that he'll miss game 1, there will be another player that takes that role. What I was pointing out was the possible change in ratio down to 7 starters. If that happens we'll need a Canadian receiver as a back up.

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 19, 2025, 12:54:44 PMLogan would have been the back receiver in his primary role as a returner ( DI spot ). Now that he'll miss game 1, there will be another player that takes that role. What I was pointing out was the possible change in ratio down to 7 starters. If that happens we'll need a Canadian receiver as a back up.

Gee, how far back would you have to go to find a game where Peyton Logan was a receiver? High school?

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 19, 2025, 02:54:01 PMGee, how far back would you have to go to find a game where Peyton Logan was a receiver? High school?

As an in game injury replacement that is usually a role the returner takes. While Logan is more of a RB than a WR, he has a history of some receptions out of the backfield and / or in spot duty.

It was not very likely we would have had an actual receiver as a DI, so our choices would have been limited for an in game situation. It's not unusual for a RB to have some skill as a receiver.

As I pointed out why we would also need a back up Canadian receiver as depth on the AR. Augustine may have been an emergency back up in 2024 but his roster spot falls into a TBD.

Somebody has to fill the back up role for receivers.

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 19, 2025, 03:06:42 PMSomebody has to fill the back up role for receivers.

Totally. Someone has to do it...but my guess is it probably won't be a running back.

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 19, 2025, 03:34:51 PMTotally. Someone has to do it...but my guess is it probably won't be a running back.

Logan was going to be the returner so I can't totally agree that wasn't the plan.

We have a bunch of unknown's. Case wasn't any good in 2024 and neither was M. Mitchell in either the return game or as a receiver. That may have forced another look at who fills what role.

Again, if we go 3 import OL, that takes away one more option in the ratio. However, even then our imports have tended to be on the defensive side of the roster.

Add to that Schoen might still be out for awhile and we have to replace the other import receivers.

So who would you pick as back up receivers.

K Harris (WR) returns
DB Vaval also returns

Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 19, 2025, 04:10:45 PMK Harris (WR) returns
DB Vaval also returns

Vaval won't help back up receivers but he could also be the rotation DB as well as the returner in theory. That said, I don't know where he stands in the DB choices as depth.

Harris has had some good comments as a receiver but I'm not sure how much work he's had yet as a returner. He might be a choice that could be a DI.

We'll see what happens in the pre -season games I guess.

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 19, 2025, 03:43:59 PMLogan was going to be the returner so I can't totally agree that wasn't the plan.

We have a bunch of unknown's. Case wasn't any good in 2024 and neither was M. Mitchell in either the return game or as a receiver. That may have forced another look at who fills what role.

Again, if we go 3 import OL, that takes away one more option in the ratio. However, even then our imports have tended to be on the defensive side of the roster.

Add to that Schoen might still be out for awhile and we have to replace the other import receivers.

So who would you pick as back up receivers.

Gavin Cobb can back up receivers and returners, if an import receiver goes down for more than a game they  pull his replacement off the PR, same scenario happened last season when Lawler and Schoen went down. Based on vibes, if Wheatfall isn't cut outright I expect he's headed for the PR along with a few other receivers, maybe Kody Case and Gassama. 

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 19, 2025, 04:39:57 PMGavin Cobb can back up receivers and returners, if an import receiver goes down for more than a game they  pull his replacement off the PR, same scenario happened last season when Lawler and Schoen went down. Based on vibes, if Wheatfall isn't cut outright I expect he's headed for the PR along along a few other receivers, maybe Kody Case and Gassama. 

I think Cobb has a decent chance to make the AR for depth needed as a receiver regardless of who takes the returner role.

Wheatfall and Case are going to be hard pressed with rookie competition and may not want or be offered a PR spot. Not sure what to think about Gassama. He might take a PR spot.

Let's see who rotates into the pre-season games and who makes an impression. Due to injuries, there are some spots on the AR that might have not be open otherwise.

When do we have our 1st scrimm - anyone know?

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 19, 2025, 04:49:04 PMI think Cobb has a decent chance to make the AR for depth needed as a receiver regardless of who takes the returner role.

Wheatfall and Case are going to be hard pressed with rookie competition and may not want or be offered a PR spot. Not sure what to think about Gassama. He might take a PR spot.

Let's see who rotates into the pre-season games and who makes an impression. Due to injuries, there are some spots on the AR that might have not be open otherwise.

I expect Cobb to take over Augustine's role on ST as the second returner and may even play on the pursuit team if he's capable of doing so.

Just left camp for a Monday.
Quite brisk to say the least!

Brady and Lawson were in street wear.

Schoen was a full participant including a nice grab on a deep post.

Sterns was most impressive! Multiple nice deep grabs in the howling wind and offered great separation. Excited to see him Saturday.

Joey Corcoran had a couple real nice catches as well.

Streveler had no knee brace and had real nice touch on the ball for a few deeper shots.

Zach was Zach. Very accurate. Again in the blustery chilly wind.


Wilson seemed hesitant to pull the trigger at times.

OL displayed some real good push in a few running plays. Chris-Ike showed great burst as did Matthew Peterson.

Cody case had a real nice burst on the draw play the executed perfectly by the OL but was stripped of the ball 25 yards down field. Might of been Ayers who stripped it but couldn't get the full number.


DBs, Vaval had a real nice break up and displayed nice burst on punt returns.
Parker had nice coverage a couple times to.

DL had solid consistent pressure as a unit with Willie was getting in RBs grills early. Nice push on the interior tough to see who though.

Wallace should be a real gamer. Opened some nice holes for the ball carriers.

Devin Adams sure brings vocal energy pre snap! lol

Considering it felt like late fall out there today I'm sure the coaches were impressed with the energy and plays made.

Thanks for the detailed update.

Glad Schoen is back. That answers one question at receiver. There have some earlier Kudos for Sterns making an impression. I thought he'd be the odd man out between D.Mitchell and White but they are hardly mentioned.

OTOH, M. Mitchell and a few others are sounding good.

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 19, 2025, 03:43:59 PMLogan was going to be the returner so I can't totally agree that wasn't the plan.

We have a bunch of unknown's. Case wasn't any good in 2024 and neither was M. Mitchell in either the return game or as a receiver. That may have forced another look at who fills what role.

Again, if we go 3 import OL, that takes away one more option in the ratio. However, even then our imports have tended to be on the defensive side of the roster.

Add to that Schoen might still be out for awhile and we have to replace the other import receivers.

So who would you pick as back up receivers.

We'll see when camp's over I guess. I'm pretty sure it won't be a running back though.

Actually Kody Case wasn't that bad last year on KR. I think he just needed a little more playing time to get his timing down. 

Case: 10.5 PR avg. 25.2 KR avg. Longest 38 yards.

Logan: 13.5 PR avg. 22.7 KR avg. Longest 42 yards.

Lucky: 11.1 PR avg. 21.7 KR avg. Longest 40 yards.

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 19, 2025, 07:19:22 PMWe'll see when camp's over I guess. I'm pretty sure it won't be a running back though.

Yeah, I don't get this logic at all. Our roster isn't going to be built to rely on Logan as a backup receiver just because he also does kick returns.

The way we are trending, it seems like we're going to have plenty of options for how we want to deploy our DI, since we have a bunch of Canadians in key depth spots. Wouldn't be surprised to see us use exclusively Cobb/Corcoran as game day backups, although the emphasis we've placed on depth pieces on offense would suggest maybe we're content to roll a DI out on O over and above Logan.

Also just depends on if we bother to (which we better) actually use the roster rules to our advantage this year, because if we don't, it's probably going to keep a guy like Ayers off the field and there's really no need for that.

If we use an import at guard, our DIs are very limited at 4 with Castillo and Logan taking 2 spots, likely a dline ie adams, a lb Wilson or Ayers (if both Jones start). Not sure how Griffin fits into that unless hes starting safety and unlikely we use one at receiver.

Ed Tait on Day 9 of Training Camo...

https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/19/blue-bombers-training-camp-report-day-9/

Views from Zach Collaros, Nic Demski and Mike O'Shea on Day 9 of Training Camp...

https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/19/zach-collaros-may-19/

https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/19/nic-demski-may-19/

https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/19/coach-oshea-may-19/

Quote from: Mike on May 20, 2025, 12:48:47 AMYeah, I don't get this logic at all. Our roster isn't going to be built to rely on Logan as a backup receiver just because he also does kick returns.

Generally we rely on the DI returner to backup something.  Even if it's emergency only (injuries, not spelling).

Since Logan is a natural RB, we could easily ditch the NAT bacukp RB spot and have Logan be the speller/injury backup.  But yes, then that leaves a glaring hole at backup REC.

I think in a pinch we had Johnny/Grant playing REC.  So if Logan has any ability at all, maybe he'll have that role also.

But yes, the easiest solution is to AR a NAT as REC bacukp.  However, other than ST work he'll mostly just go to waste.  (i.e. be used even less than Johnny was)

Even if we have too many promising IMP REC to choose from (could happen!), I don't see how we blow a DI on a backup REC.

Quote from: Mike on May 20, 2025, 12:48:47 AMAlso just depends on if we bother to (which we better) actually use the roster rules to our advantage this year, because if we don't, it's probably going to keep a guy like Ayers off the field and there's really no need for that.

Haha, that's a good one!  ROFL, hahah, <wipes tears away>

Nope, that freebie extra 2RDP is safely ours in '26 too.

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 19, 2025, 05:22:37 PMDevin Adams sure brings vocal energy pre snap! lol

Told you guys.  He's one to watch pre-game, pre-snap, post-snap, everything snap.  He'll have a bright future here as a leader if he can keep improving his play and stay AR'd.

I'm now a huge fan, just like I am of Cadwall.  They are the hardly-noticed sleepers.

Quote from: Pete on May 20, 2025, 01:24:08 AMIf we use an import at guard, our DIs are very limited at 4 with Castillo and Logan taking 2 spots, likely a dline ie adams, a lb Wilson or Ayers (if both Jones start). Not sure how Griffin fits into that unless hes starting safety and unlikely we use one at receiver.

I originally thought we'd see Griffin as the starting safety and that seems to have changed. I expected DI's to be Castillo, Logan, a DB and a LB since we've tended to load the defence with at least 2 DI's. Questions surround who is going to win several spots on the AR.

Parker, Gowan and Bridges are among those fighting to win the opening at CB.

With the injury to Logan that may change the mix for our returner including using Canadians. I'd like to think we continue with 3 Canadian OL giving us 8 Canadian starters. If we do then we have room for that rotational import not designated as a DI.

In theory we might even use that spot for an extra import receiver. Since we will have 2 new receivers starting, it might be short term insurance?

Our roster has lots of talent, but there are going to be some new things happening on defence. I'm not saying it's a bad thing but IMO none of the starting LB positions are locked down. I know what I'd like to see but there are various combinations that could happen.

Lots of overthinking here. Lots of underrating of Cobb too. Cobb is easily as good as Janarion/Lucky as a receiver in a pinch.

Just read the moves. It's not like they signed Logan and thought oh shucks we messed up he's not a receiver. There's a pretty clear plan on O. I won't be surprised if we use Logan's freed up spot on the roster on D week 1. Mitchell (either one) and Cobb are capable in the return game.

One of the Di spots has to go to a dlineman, The only way it dies is if Munier-Bailey is the real deal but it sounds as if it will take time.
We simply cant go into games with only Thomas and Smeckle as backups esp if we want to keep Jefferson Vaughtner effective

Quote from: Pete on May 20, 2025, 02:08:18 PMOne of the Di spots has to go to a dlineman, The only way it dies is if Munier-Bailey is the real deal but it sounds as if it will take time.
We simply cant go into games with only Thomas and Smeckle as backups esp if we want to keep Jefferson Vaughtner effective

They'll be rotating with Adams and Woods till Lawson shows up, can't blame the DT's for the DE's inability to get to the QB since they dumped Jeffcoat. There are 3 or 4 agile edge rushers competing for spots, one makes the roster one the PR, they should be able to supplement Willie and Vaughters pass rush but will lack the ability to play contain.

Quote from: Pete on May 20, 2025, 02:08:18 PMOne of the Di spots has to go to a dlineman, The only way it dies is if Munier-Bailey is the real deal but it sounds as if it will take time.
We simply cant go into games with only Thomas and Smeckle as backups esp if we want to keep Jefferson Vaughtner effective

We don't rotate Jefferson. He plays pretty much every snap.

Quote from: Jesse on May 20, 2025, 04:32:39 PMWe don't rotate Jefferson. He plays pretty much every snap.

I'm sure that's what he wants too, if there were more able pass rushers they could take that decision out of his hands.

Quote from: Jesse on May 20, 2025, 04:32:39 PMWe don't rotate Jefferson. He plays pretty much every snap.

He rotates his effort level depending on game and circumstance though lol.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 20, 2025, 04:04:20 PMThey'll be rotating with Adams and Woods till Lawson shows up, can't blame the DT's for the DE's inability to get to the QB since they dumped Jeffcoat. There are 3 or 4 agile edge rushers competing for spots, one makes the roster one the PR, they should be able to supplement Willie and Vaughters pass rush but will lack the ability to play contain.

thats my point, currently we go with one cdn starting dt, so to get both Adams and Woods on the field you need need to use one DI spot. Leaving one for the lb position

Ed Tait update on TC.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 20, 2025, 08:45:40 PMEd Tait update on TC.

Some nice lil' tidbits.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 20, 2025, 08:45:40 PMEd Tait update on TC.

The guy behind the camera picking questions is annoying. No questions about the team? Are we talking Bombers here or reporters BS?

Get with it staff, we want Bombers info not other crap. More like coffee talk with Ed Tait than Blue Bomber huddle.

Quote from: Jesse on May 20, 2025, 04:32:39 PMWe don't rotate Jefferson. He plays pretty much every snap.

Nope he rotates like everyone else, less because he is a stud, he is more effective this way at his age

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 20, 2025, 11:29:27 PMGet with it staff, we want Bombers info not other crap. More like coffee talk with Ed Tait than Blue Bomber huddle.

Meh, Huddle has always been like that.  It's aiming to be something other than hardcore football talk.  It's more like "meet your player", and silly personal questions, etc.  Probably more for the younger and/or less-serious crowd.

It's fine once you understand what it is.  It's usually worth watching in the background.  You'll get some choice nuggets occasionally.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 20, 2025, 04:04:20 PMThey'll be rotating with Adams and Woods till Lawson shows up

Uh, hasn't Lawson been out since '24 TC?!?  You're telling me he isn't healthy yet??  Holy smokes.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 21, 2025, 03:35:06 AMUh, hasn't Lawson been out since '24 TC?!?  You're telling me he isn't healthy yet??  Holy smokes.

Terrible knee injury. Heavy frame. Lots of rehab. Not to be rushed at this point I guess.

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 21, 2025, 03:37:30 AMTerrible knee injury. Heavy frame. Lots of rehab. Not to be rushed at this point I guess.

Are we getting status updates on him?  Has he even been spotted in civvies yet?  Can't a DT spot wear a brace?

Lawson is kind of critical to our DL plans.  Another season without him will mean another season of suckage.

Day 10 comment on Training Camp, focusing on Dalton Schoen...

https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/20/blue-bombers-training-camp-report-day-10/

Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 21, 2025, 03:58:56 AMAre we getting status updates on him?  Has he even been spotted in civvies yet?  Can't a DT spot wear a brace?

Lawson is kind of critical to our DL plans.  Another season without him will mean another season of suckage.

Lawson is there everyday in civvies. Appears to be moving ok.

Count me in as someone who thought Lawson was 100% good to go to start the season. Very disappointing if that's not the case.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 21, 2025, 03:58:56 AMAre we getting status updates on him?  Has he even been spotted in civvies yet?  Can't a DT spot wear a brace?

Lawson is kind of critical to our DL plans.  Another season without him will mean another season of suckage.

What kind of nonsense is this? Slap a brace on him, good as new says the doctor from ... Facebook University?

That's a major injury he sustained and we need him more in November than we do in June. Come back when you're ready. Not when the fans are ready.

I don't think Lawson is that critical to our D yet. The man has played 33 games for the bombers 20 DTs and 6 sacks, not exactly all-star DT numbers. He has a lot to prove before I would classify him as critical.   

Quote from: Pigskin on May 21, 2025, 08:19:56 PMI don't think Lawson is that critical to our D yet. The man has played 33 games for the bombers 20 DTs and 6 sacks, not exactly all-star DT numbers. He has a lot to prove before I would classify him as critical.   

But 5 of those sacks were in 2023 and we expecting him to take another leap in 2024 with more playing time when he got injured.

Instead we seemed to completely revamp our scheme to make up for our lack of a pass rush.

Lawson is a key depth piece, patience my friends, let him heal, will be Fatboi 2.0 if we are lucky.

Zach pumping Dalton's tires. Says he's paramount to there offence, and usually the smartest player on the field. Says a lot about DS83.

Ed Tait's comments on Day 11 of Training Camp...

https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/21/blue-bombers-training-camp-report-day-11/

Quote from: Mike on May 21, 2025, 06:16:16 PMWhat kind of nonsense is this? Slap a brace on him, good as new says the doctor from ... Facebook University?

That's a major injury he sustained and we need him more in November than we do in June. Come back when you're ready. Not when the fans are ready.

I can't even remember a Bomber that was injured a full year+ with the same single injury.

So ya, it's a bit disturbing whisper is now that he won't be ready for game 1.  The same injury!

I guess it's possible, I guess it can be a thing, I've just never seen it.  Contrast with Strev who had every possible knee injury all in one, completely crippled, and he was running laps months and months ago, AND he was injured mid-season, not in '24 TC!!

Quote from: Pigskin on May 21, 2025, 08:19:56 PMI don't think Lawson is that critical to our D yet. The man has played 33 games for the bombers 20 DTs and 6 sacks, not exactly all-star DT numbers. He has a lot to prove before I would classify him as critical.

But he is critical.  He was the reason we let Casey Sayles walk!  He was the main reason we didn't go FA hunting in '24.

Quote from: Blueforlife on May 22, 2025, 01:59:09 AMLawson is a key depth piece, patience my friends, let him heal, will be Fatboi 2.0 if we are lucky.

Better: he'll be Casey Sayles 2.0 with a good passport if we're lucky!  That was the original plan.

Quote from: Pigskin on May 22, 2025, 04:24:27 AMZach pumping Dalton's tires. Says he's paramount to there offence, and usually the smartest player on the field. Says a lot about DS83.

Well, with Kenny and Pokey gone, he's not just paramount, he's basically all we got for mega-superstar REC right now.  So Zach's right to understand his importance.

If we don't have Dalton, then we don't have a top-5 REC, let alone a top-3.

Not a peep about Jarious Jackson? He's been gone longer than Trey Laing and he was just released. All I can think of is that it must be health related. It's speculation on my part of course.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 22, 2025, 05:57:03 AMI can't even remember a Bomber that was injured a full year+ with the same single injury.

So ya, it's a bit disturbing whisper is now that he won't be ready for game 1.  The same injury!

I guess it's possible, I guess it can be a thing, I've just never seen it.  Contrast with Strev who had every possible knee injury all in one, completely crippled, and he was running laps months and months ago, AND he was injured mid-season, not in '24 TC!!

Comparing Streveler to Lawson is a completely different discussion. Not even realistic. There's an entirely different level of physical work involved to maintain playing condition when your playing condition correlates with hovering around 290 pounds and you're not able to do much physical activity.

Guy had a complete knee reconstruction, more or less.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 22, 2025, 05:59:56 AMBetter: he'll be Casey Sayles 2.0 with a good passport if we're lucky!  That was the original plan.

I think he will be very good, was more speaking to the longevity and that we enjoyed with Thomas but also his consistency.

Loved me a Sayles!

Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 22, 2025, 05:59:38 AMBut he is critical.  He was the reason we let Casey Sayles walk!  He was the main reason we didn't go FA hunting in '24.

Sayles left in 2022, and like most that left he looked like a massive overpay (has since disproved that)  Lawton was looked to more as JTs replacement.
 Import Dt is a position we have always seemed to feel was an easier one to move on from ,ie the Stove, Nevis and Sayles. We haven't however found one as good unless Woods/Adams show significant improvement
 

Quote from: Pete on May 22, 2025, 02:58:36 PMSayles left in 2022, and like most that left he looked like a massive overpay (has since disproved that)  Lawton was looked to more as JTs replacement.
 Import Dt is a position we have always seemed to feel was an easier one to move on from ,ie the Stove, Nevis and Sayles. We haven't however found one as good unless Woods/Adams show significant improvement
 

Yes, Lawson will never be on the level of Casey Sayles. Never. Sayles 66 games, 151 Dt, 25 Sacks, 2 FF. This is a dominant player in the CFL. If Lawson gets to JT95 level I would be happy.

Quote from: Pete on May 22, 2025, 02:58:36 PMSayles left in 2022, and like most that left he looked like a massive overpay (has since disproved that)  Lawton was looked to more as JTs replacement.
 Import Dt is a position we have always seemed to feel was an easier one to move on from ,ie the Stove, Nevis and Sayles. We haven't however found one as good unless Woods/Adams show significant improvement
 

Didn't lose much when they moved on to Ricky Walker from Sayles, both looked greatr playing between the two Jeff's.  Both were hybrid DT's which seems to becoming more common now, 10 years ago nobody expected DT's to chase QB's, even with Nevis and Stove their main job was shutting down the running game and tying up opposing linemen.

Quote from: Waffler on May 22, 2025, 11:21:02 AMNot a peep about Jarious Jackson? He's been gone longer than Trey Laing and he was just released. All I can think of is that it must be health related. It's speculation on my part of course.

Really hope he isn't doing a QB school gig with Darian Durant...

Quote from: Waffler on May 22, 2025, 11:21:02 AMNot a peep about Jarious Jackson? He's been gone longer than Trey Laing and he was just released. All I can think of is that it must be health related. It's speculation on my part of course.

This is worrisome considering Jackson has already missed most of TC, half expect him to reneg on his contract and not arrive, leaving them with a rookie OC to run the offence. I would start looking around to see who might be available to help out.

Derek Taylor updates from the past couple of days. I was hoping that there would be more outlets posting now that the Winnipeg Jets have been eliminated.


Bombers camp day 12: Props to guys who have been out all 12 days. These days are long and tough. And the schedule doesn't stop.

Looks like RECs Nic Demski and Gavin Cobb are out for a 3rd day. Can't imagine them playing Saturday with that. No gear for LT Stanley Bryant today.

With Bryant out Micah Vanterpool is at LT. Gabe Wallace at guard and Kendall Randolph continues at RT

More shuffling at receiver—a constant theme of camp. Dalton Schoen is with the 1s. Kody Case in for Demski. And Reggie White in the slot opposite Schoen.

Bombers 2nd-round pick Jaylen Smith playing at DB. At a listed 6-0, 230 that's a MASSIVE defensive back.

REC Kody Case was with the 1s to start today. Now is on the sides, helmet on, but not taking reps. Assuming he got hurt at some point today.

Great deep post route by Dillon Mitchell. Bodied off the DB, leapt and hauled in a 40-yard gain.



Day 11 of Bombers camp: Appears Brady Oliveira is back after a couple of days out. REC Nic Demski and Jerreth Sterns sitting out today.

Rookie DB Ethan Ball is out for a second day. Appears he now has a cast on that right wrist. Unfortunate news as there was going to be more room at safety with Josh Hagerty on the 1-game injured list.

Watching Dalton Schoen waggle—his distinct arms pumping style—then hauling in a corner route for a TD reminds me that football is back.

THE PADS ARE GOING ON!!!

Kendall Randolph continues at RT even with Eric Lofton back practicing. Lofton is with the 2nd group. Lofton is one of two offensive guys who played every single snap for the Bombers last season.

Dillon Mitchell and Dalton Schoen working together with the 3rd group. That's the two we would have expected as the weak-side duo for the season opener.

Plenty of guys stepping up to show their return skills. It appears the Bombers will chose from Dillon Mitchell, Myron Mitchell, Kody Case, Keilahn Harris and Trey Vaval for the preseason games.



Q What's the Receiver situation looking like? Any surprises?
DT  Surprise would have to be Dillon Mitchell consistently not with the 1st team after day 1. I think Myron Mitchell's progression from last season is a nice sight.

QB Terry Wilson interview.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 22, 2025, 03:57:40 PMDidn't lose much when they moved on to Ricky Walker from Sayles, both looked greatr playing between the two Jeff's.  Both were hybrid DT's which seems to becoming more common now, 10 years ago nobody expected DT's to chase QB's, even with Nevis and Stove their main job was shutting down the running game and tying up opposing linemen.

Agree, Walker was playing very well before he retired. 36 games with the Bombers, 59 DT, 7 sacks. Last season with the Bombers 37 DTs.

Blue Bombers Transactions - May 22, 2025

WINNIPEG, MB., May 22, 2025 – The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the following transactions:

Released from roster:

American offensive lineman Brayden Keim

Quote from: ModAdmin on May 22, 2025, 08:09:05 PMBlue Bombers Transactions - May 22, 2025

WINNIPEG, MB., May 22, 2025 – The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the following transactions:

Released from roster:

American offensive lineman Brayden Keim

It's interesting that he only got a very short audition. Not that it matters but something doesn't add up. Perhaps arrived out of shape and behind the others here longer.

Quote from: Pigskin on May 22, 2025, 03:18:23 PMYes, Lawson will never be on the level of Casey Sayles. Never. Sayles 66 games, 151 Dt, 25 Sacks, 2 FF. This is a dominant player in the CFL. If Lawson gets to JT95 level I would be happy.

While it's hard to argue with you on this one, it's too early to know what the ceiling for Lawson is.  Never say never.  I would agree that if he could match what JT95 has done, we win.

Coach O'Shea May 22

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 22, 2025, 10:57:00 PMIt's interesting that he only got a very short audition. Not that it matters but something doesn't add up. Perhaps arrived out of shape and behind the others here longer.

Or it's the alternative. I looked at him and thought hey the measurables sound good. Maybe they thought the same.

Quote from: Pigskin on May 22, 2025, 03:18:23 PMYes, Lawson will never be on the level of Casey Sayles. Never. Sayles 66 games, 151 Dt, 25 Sacks, 2 FF. This is a dominant player in the CFL. If Lawson gets to JT95 level I would be happy.

Lawson was already supposed to be way better than Fatboi.  The '24 plan, at least the guesses before TC, was we were going all-NAT DT starters (Fatboi+Lawson).  Why?  Because we made no attempt to sign a non-rookie IMP DT.

Lawson was pegged as being as hopefully being as good as Walker, because he had that extra year of dev.

I take umbrage with the idea that Lawson can never be Sayles.  Sayles was good, but he wasn't anywhere near Stove/Nevis good.  I see no reason why we can't aspire to starting another Sayles-level DT.  Why not Lawson?  Just because he's a NAT?

If Lawson will only ever be another Fatboi, then why the heck aren't we buying some beef DT in FA??  I guess we could be hoping Woods/Adams might dev into the next Walker... but that only explains '25.  In '24 those guys were rookies and it all rested on Lawson.

Either you're wrong about Lawson, or Mafia is missing a few marbles??

Quote from: Pete on May 22, 2025, 02:58:36 PMImport Dt is a position we have always seemed to feel was an easier one to move on from ,ie the Stove, Nevis and Sayles. We haven't however found one as good unless Woods/Adams show significant improvement

Every season it's a downgrade at (non-Fatboi) DT.  At first it was a slight downgrade.  But since Walker left the floor has dropped out.

Nevis
Stove
Sayles
Walker
Lawson Woods/Fox/Adams!
Lawson (hopefully)

And look at our GC stats/success since Stove left... we keep "ignoring" the DT spot in FA/scouting/devpipeline and we keep getting worse.

It's depressing, but at the same time I'm hopeful Lawson can achieve what we hoped for in '24, and one of the IMPs can level-up.

Quote from: Mike on May 23, 2025, 04:26:26 AMOr it's the alternative. I looked at him and thought hey the measurables sound good. Maybe they thought the same.

Well they would have had some scouting information on him an college film. He might have been at one of the tryout camps. They just might have wanted a quick look and he might added to the PR later this year.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 23, 2025, 07:22:56 AMEvery season it's a downgrade at (non-Fatboi) DT.  At first it was a slight downgrade.  But since Walker left the floor has dropped out.

Nevis
Stove
Sayles
Walker
Lawson Woods/Fox/Adams!
Lawson (hopefully)

And look at our GC stats/success since Stove left... we keep "ignoring" the DT spot in FA/scouting/devpipeline and we keep getting worse.

It's depressing, but at the same time I'm hopeful Lawson can achieve what we hoped for in '24, and one of the IMPs can level-up.

Look at the list of DT's we've hardly ignored the position.  Most DT's we've brough in are starting elsewhere now at top salaries, or retired/injured.

Every year we bring in new options.  And we have had more than our share get scooped away.

And, if we wanted to address it in FA, we would have signed our FA's...

Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 23, 2025, 07:22:56 AMEvery season it's a downgrade at (non-Fatboi) DT.  At first it was a slight downgrade.  But since Walker left the floor has dropped out.

Nevis
Stove
Sayles
Walker
Lawson Woods/Fox/Adams!
Lawson (hopefully)

And look at our GC stats/success since Stove left... we keep "ignoring" the DT spot in FA/scouting/devpipeline and we keep getting worse.

It's depressing, but at the same time I'm hopeful Lawson can achieve what we hoped for in '24, and one of the IMPs can level-up.

You're getting carried away with this narrative, they have 2 DT spots one is for American, one Canadian, plenty of quality DT's to fill both slots. Woods, Adams, or Lawson have the potential to excel at the position this season so not worried at all about ineffectiveness, we'll see what happens.

Guess who is back back again
Such great news
Some people were so negative on him when he struggled a bit last year, our leader, our best chance to win!

I knew Zach would be back. Glad they got this out of the way early.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 23, 2025, 06:16:41 PMYou're getting carried away with this narrative, they have 2 DT spots one is for American, one Canadian, plenty of quality DT's to fill both slots. Woods, Adams, or Lawson have the potential to excel at the position this season so not worried at all about ineffectiveness, we'll see what happens.

Agree our weakness at DL DT been overstated imo

Bombers extend QB Collaros through 2026 (https://www.cfl.ca/2025/05/23/bombers-extend-quarterback-zach-collaros-through-2026/)

QuoteWINNIPEG — The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announced on Friday the club has signed quarterback Zach Collaros to a one-year contract extension through the 2026 Canadian Football League season.

Collaros is entering his sixth season with the Blue Bombers and has firmly established himself as one of the greatest pivots in franchise history.

A two-time Grey Cup champion with the club in 2019 and 2021, he has helped guide the team to five straight championship game appearances while twice being named the CFL's Most Outstanding Player (2021, 2022) and All-CFL (2021, 2022). No other quarterback in league history has started more than three consecutive Grey Cup games.

Since his arrival from Toronto at the trade deadline in October of 2019, the Blue Bombers are 57-18, including playoffs, in games in which he has started.

His 49 regular season wins ranks third in franchise history behind only Ken Ploen (82) and Dieter Brock (71) and his 16,177 passing yards is fifth in Blue Bombers history.

Collaros threw for a career-best 4,336 yards in 17 games in 2024 with 17 touchdowns against 15 interceptions as the team was 10-7 in his 17 starts. He had four 300 yards-plus passing performances last year, including a season-high 432 yards in a win over Edmonton in September. He also threw for six touchdowns in that game, tied for second most in franchise history with Sean Salisbury (Sept. 10, 1989, vs. BC) and Jack Jacobs (Oct. 4, 1952, vs. Calgary) behind Jim Van Pelt's record seven touchdown game against Saskatchewan on August 29, 1959.

Collaros has now suited up for 158 career CFL games with Toronto (2012-13), Hamilton (2014-17), Saskatchewan (2018-19) and Winnipeg (2019-). His 32,935 career passing yards ranks 17th in CFL history and his next passing TD will be the 200th of his career.

Quote from: Jesse on May 23, 2025, 07:21:55 PMI knew Zach would be back. Glad they got this out of the way early.

That's the best part, get that out of the way, wonder if it has a clause for him to make sure he doesn't miss drug tests lol

Quote from: Blueforlife on May 23, 2025, 07:23:12 PMThat's the best part, get that out of the way, wonder if it has a clause for him to make sure he doesn't miss drug tests lol

Off topic, but with the former draft picks no longer being non-counters, Zach's suspension, and the Montreal air horn being banned, it really seems like new commish (or someone up the food chain), has dusted off the rule book and started applying rules that have long been ignored.

I would be double checking me team/players/coaches are doing everything by the book.

Quote from: Jesse on May 23, 2025, 07:26:55 PMOff topic, but with the former draft picks no longer being non-counters, Zach's suspension, and the Montreal air horn being banned, it really seems like new commish (or someone up the food chain), has dusted off the rule book and started applying rules that have long been ignored.

I would be double checking me team/players/coaches are doing everything by the book.

Good, about time for CFL teams to follow the rules of the game. Close all loopholes!

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 23, 2025, 11:03:34 PMGood, about time for CFL teams to follow the rules of the game. Close all loopholes!

Yes and no. I hope everyone got some warnings that things were being tightened.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 23, 2025, 06:16:41 PMYou're getting carried away with this narrative, they have 2 DT spots one is for American, one Canadian, plenty of quality DT's to fill both slots. Woods, Adams, or Lawson have the potential to excel at the position this season so not worried at all about ineffectiveness, we'll see what happens.

You saw our DL, and DTs in particular last season, didn't you?  You saw our DL in the GC?  Mostly hot garbage, relative to teams with "real" DLs -- like TOR.

I share your optimism, but my narrative is just fine -- and correct -- until we address it in FA or strike gold with one of the sophomores.  (We do this "let them walk, keep it cheap" thing with DBs and it works fine with them, as they are clearly easier to find.  But it's not working with the DL.)

I challenge anyone to look at my list, which is in chronological order, and tell me where any of the lower guys was more effective/better when here than the higher.  And Aards, ignore injury or retirement: at the time of the FAs and departures they were all fine and sought after.  We couldn't have known a dude was going to quickly go on IR or retirement, and it doesn't matter, that's not the point.

Quote from: Jesse on May 23, 2025, 07:26:55 PMMontreal air horn being banned

What??  They finally banned those demonic devices?  I'll be able to hear the booth guys and sideline reporter finally?  Won't get a headache from watching 3 hours of horns?

Pinch me, surely you must be joking...

Edit: I'm pinched... saw in the other thread it's true!  Hallelujah!

Reports from the other site indicate Lawson is back at practice. That's good news even if he doesn't play this week. There should be an off setting roster transaction.

I have seen some comments on here about coming up with a nickname for Quinton Cooley. In postgame media scrums it was mentioned that he has earned the nickname "Shuttle Bus".


Derek Taylor posts

Bombers open Day 13 of camp with a special teams covering drill. That feels like a good call.

DT Cam Lawson is dressed and practicing today. Trying to see if there's a corresponding move to bringing him off the veteran injured list.
(update)
The corresponding move was the Bombers moving WR Koday Case to the suspended list. Case didn't play Saturday and sat out the latter part of last Thursday's practice.

Receiver David Wallis and S Cam Allen sitting out today. Allen solidified his Bombers 2025 Rookie of the Year status with an interception and knockdown in the Bombers preseason opener.

THE PADS ARE GOING ON!!!

Lawson is sitting out the padded portion of practice after working for the first hour or so.

Crazy one-handed catch from Jaylen Hall. Popped it up to himself to get over a defender, then fell to ground and hauled it in.



Mike O'Shea media availability

John Lu talks with Chris Streveler
https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/video/~3141102 (https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/video/~3141102)

Quote from: Stats Junkie on May 26, 2025, 08:26:09 PMI have seen some comments on here about coming up with a nickname for Quinton Cooley. In postgame media scrums it was mentioned that he has earned the nickname "Shuttle Bus".


Derek Taylor posts

Bombers open Day 13 of camp with a special teams covering drill. That feels like a good call.

DT Cam Lawson is dressed and practicing today. Trying to see if there's a corresponding move to bringing him off the veteran injured list.

Receiver David Wallis and S Cam Allen sitting out today. Allen solidified his Bombers 2025 Rookie of the Year status with an interception and knockdown in the Bombers preseason opener.

THE PADS ARE GOING ON!!!

Lawson is sitting out the padded portion of practice after working for the first hour or so.

Crazy one-handed catch from Jaylen Hall. Popped it up to himself to get over a defender, then fell to ground and hauled it in.



Mike O'Shea media availability

John Lu talks with Chris Streveler
https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/video/~3141102 (https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/video/~3141102)

Jaylen Hall makes some great catches. Kid has good hands.

Derek Taylor

Day 14 of Bombers camp: No Brady Oliveira for a second straight day. Same for 2025 Bombers rookie of the year Cam Allen. And Keric Wheatfall is out after practicing yesterday.

First team segment of the day it was Chris Streveler at QB. Zach Collaros was with the second team.

Ridiculous one-hander in the back of the end zone by Jerreth Sterns. Very tight coverage (and ultimately we looked out of bounds) but he caught it

THE PADS ARE GOING ON!!!

Ridiculous two hands of fingertips catch on Kevens Clercius. Fade route, leaping backwards on a beautiful ball over the defender.

Should mention...no Dillon Mitchell today. Haven't seen him at all.

Winnipeg Blue Bombers @Wpg_BlueBombers 4h
Sergio Castillo is back on The Huddle TODAY! let's be real - you won't want to miss this one. we'll be live at 2 PM TODAY!

Cam Lawson.

No Dillon Mitchell is odd timing. He just had a positive article in the Freeps today:

True to his word, Mitchell had his best practice as a Bomber on
Monday, hauling in four passes during team period while appearing more
explosive as he flashed his speed on a pair of pop-passes (similar to
a jet sweep, but in front of the quarterback).

It looked like something had clicked. He ran faster and with more
decisiveness.

"I've always been a person that's been able to say the words,
'get comfortable being uncomfortable,' so I feel like you have to
win out on the field," said Mitchell, adding he understands the
decision to put him on the second and third units.

"There's 11 other guys that are out there with you, so being able
to not only know what you're doing and everybody playing at a fast
speed — having that chemistry — it has to click out there and,
now, I feel like it's starting to come."

Head coach Mike O'Shea agreed, noting he's noticed a difference in
the player from the one who reported for work earlier this month.

"He's absolutely been coming on. He's got a pretty accurate
assessment (about the start of his camp), but those are things he
knows and, as a staff, the coaches have talks with him. You let guys
know where they're at as the process goes along — you coach
them," he said. "Very quickly, he took the coaching and got some
extra work in and studied and he's stacking better days now, for
sure."

Quote from: Waffler on May 27, 2025, 09:03:32 PMNo Dillon Mitchell is odd timing. He just had a positive article in the Freeps today:

True to his word, Mitchell had his best practice as a Bomber on
Monday, hauling in four passes during team period while appearing more
explosive as he flashed his speed on a pair of pop-passes (similar to
a jet sweep, but in front of the quarterback).

It looked like something had clicked. He ran faster and with more
decisiveness.

"I've always been a person that's been able to say the words,
'get comfortable being uncomfortable,' so I feel like you have to
win out on the field," said Mitchell, adding he understands the
decision to put him on the second and third units.

"There's 11 other guys that are out there with you, so being able
to not only know what you're doing and everybody playing at a fast
speed — having that chemistry — it has to click out there and,
now, I feel like it's starting to come."

Head coach Mike O'Shea agreed, noting he's noticed a difference in
the player from the one who reported for work earlier this month.

"He's absolutely been coming on. He's got a pretty accurate
assessment (about the start of his camp), but those are things he
knows and, as a staff, the coaches have talks with him. You let guys
know where they're at as the process goes along — you coach
them," he said. "Very quickly, he took the coaching and got some
extra work in and studied and he's stacking better days now, for
sure."

This must have been from yesterday, don't think he attended practice today, so a good day followed by a no show.  Don't like his odds.

Ed Tait on Day 17 at Training camp with a focus on Cam Lawson...

https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/27/blue-bombers-training-camp-report-day-17/

Derek Taylor
Final day of practice at Bombers camp: No Brady Oliveira. Gotta be zero chance he plays in Regina. No Eric Lofton as well today.

Once again it's Chris Streveler with the 1s and Zach Collaros with the 2s.


Ed Tait
Dillon Mitchell back at practice this morning for the @Wpg_BlueBombers after being excused from yesterday's session.


Darrin Bauming
Unofficial end to #Bombers training camp this morning, with one preseason game remaining and a Week 1 bye to start Winnipeg's regular season. Trust, there will be more on @BonfireWPG in 2025!
https://x.com/DarrinBauming/status/1927763289867489441 (https://x.com/DarrinBauming/status/1927763289867489441)

What's the deal with Lofton? Is he fighting some sort of injury? He doesn't need to play this week but he's missed a lot of practice. The good news is that he hasn't been moved to any IR list.

Oliveria I would guess is just managing workload and giving the rookies a time to get some reps?

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 28, 2025, 06:17:24 PMWhat's the deal with Lofton? Is he fighting some sort of injury?

Ya, not having our game-1 OL gelling in the PS is a recipe for an early-2024 repeat.  Lofton must be nicked up.  And with LG still up in the air, we may be in for some early-season OL woes again.  Sigh.

That said, Randolph @RT was the least of our troubles in PS1...

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 28, 2025, 06:17:24 PMWhat's the deal with Lofton? Is he fighting some sort of injury? He doesn't need to play this week but he's missed a lot of practice. The good news is that he hasn't been moved to any IR list.

Oliveria I would guess is just managing workload and giving the rookies a time to get some reps?

Has Oliveria practiced at all this week? Can't be workload management if that's the case.

Lofton must be hurt. He was away, came back one day, and has been absent since.

Story on Jon Jones, Argo LB signed in FA.

https://winnipegsun.com/sports/football/cfl/winnipeg-bluebombers/anger-sadness-and-despair-bombers-linebacker-johnathan-jones-and-the-unemployment-line

13 days from Friday nights pre-season game till home opener on June 12th. BO20 only carried the ball twice in Saturdays game. I don't think that's enough to get his timing down. But, I am sure BO20 knows what's best for him. We might see a lot more of Shuttle Bus and Peterson on Friday, which I am okay with.

Quote from: Jesse on May 28, 2025, 06:40:09 PMHas Oliveria practiced at all this week? Can't be workload management if that's the case.

Lofton must be hurt. He was away, came back one day, and has been absent since.

I mean he doesn't need 20 plays each practice until we set the actual roster.

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 28, 2025, 08:19:07 PMI mean he doesn't need 20 plays each practice until we set the actual roster.

But not even dressed for 3 straight days following the pre-season game?

Quote from: Jesse on May 28, 2025, 10:12:15 PMBut not even dressed for 3 straight days following the pre-season game?

Yes, something seems a little off.

Quote from: Pigskin on May 28, 2025, 07:10:29 PM13 days from Friday nights pre-season game till home opener on June 12th. BO20 only carried the ball twice in Saturdays game. I don't think that's enough to get his timing down. But, I am sure BO20 knows what's best for him. We might see a lot more of Shuttle Bus and Peterson on Friday, which I am okay with.

Disagree, he knows Zach, the plays will be similar, only issue is waiting for the OL to gel.  His timing is the least of our worries imo.  Getting the the other two reps is all that matters imo.

Quote from: Pigskin on May 28, 2025, 10:23:44 PMYes, something seems a little off.

O'Shea admitted they did not use the pre-season games last year effectively to prepare for the upcoming season, he said they would take a different approach this year, but hard to say what that approach is. Leaving starters at home for the 2nd pre-season game indicates they're emphasizing evaluation over preparation again.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 29, 2025, 04:51:24 PMO'Shea admitted they did not use the pre-season games last year effectively to prepare for the upcoming season, he said they would take a different approach this year, but hard to say what that approach is. Leaving starters at home for the 2nd pre-season game indicates they're emphasizing evaluation over preparation again.

Mostly defensive starters. I don't think anyone from the starting offence played in the 2nd preseason game last year and now they're all going.