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Title: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: Pete on September 02, 2024, 06:34:10 PM
Good
1st half Collaros
Wolitarski showed why he is go to
Randolph solid
Sheehan
Castillo
Kickoff coverage
jones was great

Bad
Defence playing 3 man pressure too much esp with Rider OLine undermanned Harris is too accurate when he has time
Bonds beat bad on td
Streveler looks like hes lost more than a step

Ugly
Dirty rider hits Brown on Collaros and Hickson targeting Biggys knees
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: bunker on September 02, 2024, 06:48:35 PM
will add:
Good:
Lucky came through with a key return when we needed it
Hallett's fumble recovery in the end zone
Bad:
Our lack of a running game, although Sask has been doing that to everyone
Ugly:
That fight in the stands
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: Blueforlife on September 02, 2024, 06:59:34 PM
Quote from: Pete on September 02, 2024, 06:34:10 PMGood
1st half Collaros
Wolitarski showed why he is go to
Randolph solid
Sheehan
Castillo
Kickoff coverage
jones was great

Bad
Defence playing 3 man pressure too much esp with Rider OLine undermanned Harris is too accurate when he has time
Bonds beat bad on td
Streveler looks like hes lost more than a step

Ugly
Dirty rider hits Brown on Collaros and Hickson targeting Biggys knees

Happy you mention Sheehan, some experts were overly critical of him earlier in the year, he is a good punter imo.
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: 55StickCar on September 02, 2024, 07:22:12 PM
Good

Zach until that dirty hit.
Jones played great on defense.
We are in 1st Place in the West.
ALWAYS good to win in Regina.
Nic Demski had a good game.
No fumbles.
Sergio.
Punt placement.
Lucky Whitehead.
Special Teams.
O.L. played well.


Bad

The hit on Zach.
Called D.P.I. on that 2nd last play
That fight in the stands looked pretty vicious.
Absolutely no yards gained on that RTP.

Ugly

That hit on Zach.


Title: Re: Good bad ugly labour Day edition
Post by: Stats Junkie on September 02, 2024, 07:48:13 PM
The Great!

Another CFL record for Sergio Castillo. 9 successful field goals of 50+ yards in a single season.
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on September 02, 2024, 11:23:32 PM
Quote from: DM83 on September 02, 2024, 11:12:46 PMOh God.

Mods you have to censor some of this nonsense...  " targeting Bighills knees"

Bighill was reckless and his own actions exposed himself to a vulnerable position..  come on

Can't censor Bomber homerism -- this forum would have to shut down if they did.
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on September 02, 2024, 11:35:01 PM
Good

Wayne's World A+++
Bus ride
Crave BB party
Meeting Ridermania agin!
Packed house at Mosaic


Bad

Hit on Zach
Regina Police nails Manitoba visitors in check stop style pull over just as you enter town. Way to welcome us Regina, you turds! Crated back up traffic for kms.

Ugly

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Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: J5V on September 02, 2024, 11:40:46 PM
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on September 02, 2024, 11:35:01 PMBad

Regina Police nails Manitoba visitors is check stop style pull over just as you enter town. Way to welcome us Regina, you turds!

That blows! Yikes! You'd think they'd be happy to have the extra revenue. I'm extra glad we beat them now. :-)
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: Pete on September 02, 2024, 11:42:16 PM
Quote from: DM83 on September 02, 2024, 11:12:46 PMOh God.

Mods you have to censor some of this nonsense...  " targeting Bighills knees"

Bighill was reckless and his own actions exposed himself to a vulnerable position..  come on
not sure what else you call it when a running back dives forward helmet first to hit a defender low. There was no effort to block upright. You have to know hes aware that he doesn't want to take bighill direct on. Whether it was targeting or just trying to take his legs out it was a dangerous play which ended up injuring another player
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: Tecno on September 03, 2024, 12:15:22 AM
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on September 02, 2024, 11:35:01 PMBad

Regina Police nails Manitoba visitors in check stop style pull over just as you enter town. Way to welcome us Regina, you turds! Crated back up traffic for kms.

You'd think they'd have better luck waiting East of Regina right after the game ended!

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on September 02, 2024, 11:35:01 PMUgly

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What about your hangover?   :o  :o  :o
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: Tecno on September 03, 2024, 12:18:39 AM
Quote from: Pete on September 02, 2024, 11:42:16 PMnot sure what else you call it when a running back dives forward helmet first to hit a defender low. There was no effort to block upright. You have to know hes aware that he doesn't want to take bighill direct on. Whether it was targeting or just trying to take his legs out it was a dangerous play which ended up injuring another player

By rule it's legal, as long as he's in the box and unengaged.  In fact, WR/FB/RB extra blockers get a special carve-out for this in the rules.  You can argue if it should be so... but going low is an important, if somewhat rare, tactic OLs use to keep keep DLs guessing.  And it does help if you're a tiny RB and you're tasked with stopping a 280 lb LBer on a delayed blitz!
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: jayrock on September 03, 2024, 01:35:07 PM
Quote from: Pete on September 02, 2024, 06:34:10 PMUgly
Dirty rider hits Brown on Collaros and Hickson targeting Biggys knees


Really??? targeting Biggys knees? Late hit on Collaros 100% but targeting...come on.
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: LXTSN on September 03, 2024, 01:42:14 PM
Quote from: jayrock on September 03, 2024, 01:35:07 PMReally??? targeting Biggys knees? Late hit on Collaros 100% but targeting...come on.
Chop blocking is 100% legal. It's a very hard thing to eliminate in the game. Probably at least a dozen chop blocks per game that go unnoticed
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: Pete on September 03, 2024, 02:50:12 PM
I get that chop blocks aren't illegal but aren:t they usually done by the blocker going sideways and using his shoulder? The issue I had was leading with the helmut into the knee area. Is that not similar to spearing?
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: blue_or_die on September 03, 2024, 07:03:26 PM
Can someone please elaborate re the fight in the stands? Or is it being discussed in another thread I can be linked to? Thanks.
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: Pigskin on September 03, 2024, 07:42:56 PM
Quote from: blue_or_die on September 03, 2024, 07:03:26 PMCan someone please elaborate re the fight in the stands? Or is it being discussed in another thread I can be linked to? Thanks.

Goggle it. It's all there, a bunch of drunks fighting.
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: jayrock on September 03, 2024, 07:52:12 PM
Quote from: blue_or_die on September 03, 2024, 07:03:26 PMCan someone please elaborate re the fight in the stands? Or is it being discussed in another thread I can be linked to? Thanks.
Just a bunch of clowns from both teams trying to be tough.
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: peg_city on September 03, 2024, 08:15:25 PM
Quote from: blue_or_die on September 03, 2024, 07:03:26 PMCan someone please elaborate re the fight in the stands? Or is it being discussed in another thread I can be linked to? Thanks.

https://3downnation.com/2024/09/02/bombers-lucky-whitehead-offers-to-buy-fan-beer-after-labour-day-classic-brawl-gets-blowback/

It's in the link
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: Tecno on September 04, 2024, 06:58:42 AM
Quote from: Pete on September 03, 2024, 02:50:12 PMI get that chop blocks aren't illegal but aren:t they usually done by the blocker going sideways and using his shoulder? The issue I had was leading with the helmut into the knee area. Is that not similar to spearing?

100% legal in the box by team A as long as the guy low-blocked isn't engaged (well, there's slightly more nuance to the rule, but this is the gist).  I've heard some DC or maybe Lapo talk about it.  OL/blockers like to do it maybe once a game to keep the pass rushers guessing and mix things up.

I see what you're saying, but it's just something no one has made illegal yet.  Besides what happened to Biggie, I'm not sure I've ever seen someone actually get injured by it.  Biggie's problem may be more that he went airborne.

Most DL know to watch for it and do a little dance/hold-up thing to avoid getting their shins blown out.  Watch Willie handle them (it's rare)... he's superb at staying healthy.  Very good survival skills!

I wouldn't expect Biggie to be as good at spotting and avoiding this tactic, as he rushes maybe twice a game.
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: Tecno on September 04, 2024, 07:01:59 AM
Quote from: jayrock on September 03, 2024, 07:52:12 PMJust a bunch of clowns from both teams trying to be tough.

Ya, real disappointing to see.  Wouldn't want my kids around that.  I thought this was only a 1980's thing?

I think if you're the visitor in the stadium you need to be extra gracious and try to not get into anything.  Just like visiting someone's house: you don't go start punching up the place.

I would hope we treat visiting Greenies a lot better than this in the BB.
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: Tecno on September 04, 2024, 07:03:11 AM
Any word on what repercussions the fighters faced?  Did this make the Leader Post?
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: jayrock on September 04, 2024, 01:38:29 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 04, 2024, 07:01:59 AMYa, real disappointing to see.  Wouldn't want my kids around that.  I thought this was only a 1980's thing?

I think if you're the visitor in the stadium you need to be extra gracious and try to not get into anything.  Just like visiting someone's house: you don't go start punching up the place.

I would hope we treat visiting Greenies a lot better than this in the BB.

Ya my wife is not to excited to come to BB this Saturday after she saw the fight. We are sitting in a section we have never sat in before so we are not to sure what is going to happen. I have had a view run ins with poor fans over the last 21 years we have gone to what was the Back-to-back and now banjo bowl. She is asking me maybe do not go full Rider this year. Which is sad that she has to even ask that.
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on September 04, 2024, 01:43:34 PM
Quote from: jayrock on September 04, 2024, 01:38:29 PMYa my wife is not to excited to come to BB this Saturday after she saw the fight. We are sitting in a section we have never sat in before so we are not to sure what is going to happen. I have had a view run ins with poor fans over the last 21 years we have gone to what was the Back-to-back and now banjo bowl. She is asking me maybe do not go full Rider this year. Which is sad that she has to even ask that.
I think she is worrying about it to much. I have never seen fighting at IG field. Get Alcohol involved and who know I guess. I think you and her are reading to much into this.
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: jayrock on September 04, 2024, 02:06:08 PM
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on September 04, 2024, 01:43:34 PMI think she is worrying about it to much. I have never seen fighting at IG field. Get Alcohol involved and who know I guess. I think you and her are reading to much into this.

Never a full blown slobberknocker like we saw on Sunday, but do not kid yourself if you think there have never been fights. I like to think I am a good visiting fan, but I have had my share of run ins with clowns, and some who try to get into it with me. some even go out of their way to pick on my wife instead of me. So ya, in general bomber fans are good. But to be honest there are more then there used to be of goofs who want to stir things up with a fan from the visiting team.

Like I said I have been going to this game for 21 years, used to sit in the dunk tank on fan day,  go to 3 - 4 bomber games a year, used to have season tickets at the old barn. So I have seen it, and no I am not over thinking it. There is that slight chance, and she/we want to enjoy ourselves.

we have never had trouble tailgating, but you get in the stands around people you do not know, and come the 3rd when the 90 dollar beers are really kicking in, you just never know what will happen.
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: jayrock on September 04, 2024, 02:11:12 PM
regardless, we are still going, I am going to have a great time watching the Riders win, and I am looking forward to the seats we have this year, as I want to get seasons again next year.
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on September 04, 2024, 02:38:39 PM
Quote from: jayrock on September 04, 2024, 01:38:29 PMYa my wife is not to excited to come to BB this Saturday after she saw the fight. We are sitting in a section we have never sat in before so we are not to sure what is going to happen. I have had a view run ins with poor fans over the last 21 years we have gone to what was the Back-to-back and now banjo bowl. She is asking me maybe do not go full Rider this year. Which is sad that she has to even ask that.

Don't drink 200 beers. Don't push people. If someone's making you feel uncomfortable text or visit fan services. You'll be fine and you both will have a great time (despite seeing the Riders lose). Not saying the Riders don't, but the Bombers have phenomenal security and game day support services.
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: jayrock on September 04, 2024, 02:49:08 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 04, 2024, 02:38:39 PMDon't drink 200 beers. Don't push people. If someone's making you feel uncomfortable text or visit fan services. You'll be fine and you both will have a great time (despite seeing the Riders lose). Not saying the Riders don't, but the Bombers have phenomenal security and game day support services.
Are you telling me to not drink 200 beer and push people????
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 04, 2024, 03:47:20 PM
Quote from: jayrock on September 04, 2024, 01:38:29 PMYa my wife is not to excited to come to BB this Saturday after she saw the fight. We are sitting in a section we have never sat in before so we are not to sure what is going to happen. I have had a view run ins with poor fans over the last 21 years we have gone to what was the Back-to-back and now banjo bowl. She is asking me maybe do not go full Rider this year. Which is sad that she has to even ask that.

It takes 2 to tango, if someone gets on your case just pretend they're not there and get on with your business, works every time.
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on September 04, 2024, 03:58:55 PM
Quote from: jayrock on September 04, 2024, 02:49:08 PMAre you telling me to not drink 200 beer and push people????

Especially if the person you're pushing has also had 200 beers.  ;D
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: jayrock on September 04, 2024, 04:28:25 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 04, 2024, 03:47:20 PMIt takes 2 to tango, if someone gets on your case just pretend they're not there and get on with your business, works every time.

I'm a lover not a fighter.  ;D
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: Pete on September 04, 2024, 04:55:23 PM
When it comes to protecting does it seem like other teams grab strevelers back leg and pull, more than any other qb in the league?
sayles did it in first qtt. Just another example of sask attitude towards opposing qbs
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: blue_or_die on September 04, 2024, 05:58:49 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 04, 2024, 02:38:39 PMDon't drink 200 beers.

Don't you dare tell me how to live my life.
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: J5V on September 04, 2024, 10:58:11 PM
Quote from: jayrock on September 04, 2024, 01:38:29 PMYa my wife is not to excited to come to BB this Saturday after she saw the fight. We are sitting in a section we have never sat in before so we are not to sure what is going to happen. I have had a view run ins with poor fans over the last 21 years we have gone to what was the Back-to-back and now banjo bowl. She is asking me maybe do not go full Rider this year. Which is sad that she has to even ask that.
Well, whenever I went to Regina for a game I was always treated well by the local fans, win or lose, because it's just a game after all. If both sides remember that I doubt there'd be any trouble. You have to have a thick skin in enemy territory. Remember that and you'll be fine. Go in there with a bad attitude fuelled by too much alcohol and you're likely to find trouble. You and your wife will be fine. I guarantee it. If an a-hole gives either of you grief, another Bomber fan will likely tune them up.
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: Tecno on September 05, 2024, 03:01:02 AM
Quote from: jayrock on September 04, 2024, 01:38:29 PMYa my wife is not to excited to come to BB this Saturday after she saw the fight. We are sitting in a section we have never sat in before so we are not to sure what is going to happen. I have had a view run ins with poor fans over the last 21 years we have gone to what was the Back-to-back and now banjo bowl. She is asking me maybe do not go full Rider this year. Which is sad that she has to even ask that.

As long as it's not the crazy North EZ, you'll be fine.  You'd probably be fine in the NEZ as well, but there would be more ribbing and drinking.

Also, Westsiders are way more placid, so sit on the Home side if you can.  Upper bowl is very calm in the "STH" areas (first 8 rows?) between the 30s (lots of seniors and golf clappers).  As are the areas between the 40s all the way up to the top.

As you get closer to the corners things get a bit louder, but still not too rowdy.  East side is basically what I described but double rowdiness.

So hopefully your new one-off tickets are somewhere in there!

And I'm not denigrating any fan or section: I've sat in almost every section on both sides and I loved every seat.  Even though I've settled on the West, I probably had more fun in the East.

I go out of my way to welcome visiting-team fans before the game, and do the ol' "good game" afterwards.  And SSK fans have always been equally as nice to me in Regina.  Even after the infamous Bridge hit (in '19?) the worst they did is ignore me and curse JJ.

One of the best things in the CFL is the cross-visitation of WPG/SSK fans every summer, and often playoffs.  It's really good for both clubs $$$$, and cities.
Title: Re: Good bad ugly laborday edition
Post by: Tecno on September 05, 2024, 03:02:55 AM
Quote from: Pete on September 04, 2024, 04:55:23 PMWhen it comes to protecting does it seem like other teams grab strevelers back leg and pull, more than any other qb in the league?
sayles did it in first qtt. Just another example of sask attitude towards opposing qbs

They also hit Strev when he's running like they do Rs and RBs.  No other QB gets hit like that, and if they did they would penalize them.  The new QB protection rules protect Strev's head even when he's taking off.

There was a couple of huge head hits on Strev last game when he was running and no one cared.  By rule they could all be flagged.

Back when Dickenson The Greater asks pregame in '19 "can we hit Strev like every other RB?", the answer was YES then, but it is most certainly NO now.  Refs need to remember that.