Lets get this discussion going.
Oh boy, do we want to go here!?!
BC coming off the bye week, well rested, VAJ, Hollins, McInnis will be looking to light it up , our guys just had a physical game vs Argos, 5 days rest, Woli and neufeld got hurt on top of our already length injured list. I just hope they don't embarrass us at home but I don't see this one even being close
Quote from: dd on July 28, 2024, 05:03:06 PMOh boy, do we want to go here!?!
BC coming off the bye week, well rested, VAJ, Hollins, McInnis will be looking to light it up , our guys just had a physical game vs Argos, 5 days rest, Woli and neufeld got hurt on top of our already length injured list. I just hope they don't embarrass us at home but I don't see this one even being close
It's not going to matter guys. All teams make mistakes, no team has ever played a perfect game, but if we're going to be screwed over by officials and the league, then there truly is no hope.
One practice this week and it is a closed session.
Wont know who is taking starter reps until the depth chart is released on Weds.
Quote from: gobombersgo on July 28, 2024, 05:19:54 PMOne practice this week and it is a closed session.
Wont know who is taking starter reps until the depth chart is released on Weds.
One practice and a walk thru.
Quote from: Blue In BC on July 28, 2024, 06:44:22 PMOne practice and a walk thru.
That was implied. There is always a walkthrough after the practice days.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 28, 2024, 06:55:50 PM:D
Understood.
Hey why the big worry? No rest for the blue , tons of injuries , not a great Oline etc, BC the best in the league some think. They have had plenty of rest!! - Boys we got them exactly where we want them!!! ;D
And BC is coming off the loss to Calgary of all teams--who were pathetic playing Ottawa the other night....so the Lions will be in foul mood coming into this game. we need a miracle.
Quote from: dd on July 28, 2024, 07:15:27 PMAnd BC is coming off the lose to Calgary of all teams--who were pathetic playing Ottawa the other night....so the Lions will be in foul mood coming into this game. we need a miracle.
and the bombers won't be in a foul mood? ::)
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 28, 2024, 08:32:06 PMand the bombers won't be in a foul mood? ::)
Should have been in a foul mood all season and it hasn't really helped. When you are lacking talent moods do nothing.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 28, 2024, 08:32:06 PMand the bombers won't be in a foul mood? ::)
Ya they will, but with their depleted lineup and short week, I don't think they can do much about it, and besides that I think they ll run out of gas in this game.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 28, 2024, 08:32:06 PMand the bombers won't be in a foul mood? ::)
Maybe THAT is part of the issue. Everything they have done the past 4 seasons has worked fantastically. Maybe some of the veterans are content and think it will all work out.
Regardless, nothing is working this season. BC by 35+ points.
:(
Quote from: Ducky on July 28, 2024, 08:54:10 PMMaybe THAT is part of the issue. Everything they have done the past 4 seasons has worked fantastically. Maybe some of the veterans are content and think it will all work out.
Regardless, nothing is working this season. BC by 35+ points.
:(
I'll take that action I'll give you 2:1 odds
Quote from: dd on July 28, 2024, 07:15:27 PMAnd BC is coming off the loss to Calgary of all teams--who were pathetic playing Ottawa the other night....so the Lions will be in foul mood coming into this game. we need a miracle.
Aren't we more than due for a miracle?
Quote from: BomberFan73 on July 28, 2024, 11:13:43 PMAren't we more than due for a miracle?
I saw a holding penalty against the Argos yesterday. I thought that was it.
Quote from: J5V on July 28, 2024, 11:41:25 PMI saw a holding penalty against the Argos yesterday. I thought that was it.
Haha! Ya. After 10 egregious holds the refs finally flag one! It was a miracle.
Quote from: dd on July 28, 2024, 07:15:27 PMAnd BC is coming off the loss to Calgary of all teams--who were pathetic playing Ottawa the other night....so the Lions will be in foul mood coming into this game. we need a miracle.
CGY braintrust found the combination to crack the BC O safe. Just like we did in '23 WDF.
BC is very beatable because they
still haven't expanded their playbook and they are inflexible in-game. They still have almost no run game. VAJ still insists on chucking it deep all the time, even if pressure is getting through. VAJ getting beaten up and it slows his scramble down. Without that, he has nothing.
My concern is in the last BC game, oddly, BC went to a short/midshort game a ton and we had no answer. Clearly you plan around BC just chucking it deep, but you need to adjust if they start dinking.
Our D being great against the run lately should keep Stanback in check better than last time. And the pressure packages we finally revealed vs TOR should server us well because VAJ is basically a glorified Dukes who can actually throw downfield.
Yes, the key to beating BC is out-braining their O. Period. Either that or put up 45. I think the former is the safer bet at this juncture.
Quote from: gobombersgo on July 28, 2024, 05:19:54 PMOne practice this week and it is a closed session.
Uh... wha? Our team needs infinitely more practice sessions, not less, let alone one!!
So many rookies and noobs, there's no way they can magically gel without on-field time together! Is one-practice a CFL-mandated thing or is this a special WFC "rather go for slurpees" thing?
Who has a better defence - Toronto or BC?
I haven't looked at the stats but my gut says Toronto does...better offense is clearly BC. I do think our defence played well but it was against a pretty weak argos offence.
I expect VA will complete some bombs against us and our offence will do more this game but ultimately usually the better team wins and that is BC.
CGY didn't figure out how to beat BC. BC missed 5 deep balls. Complete just one of them and they win the game.
No practice today, closed practice tomorrow, walkthrough on Wednesday. Very short week.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 29, 2024, 09:13:07 AMUh... wha? Our team needs infinitely more practice sessions, not less, let alone one!!
So many rookies and noobs, there's no way they can magically gel without on-field time together! Is one-practice a CFL-mandated thing or is this a special WFC "rather go for slurpees" thing?
It's a short week, no choice this time.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 29, 2024, 09:13:07 AMUh... wha? Our team needs infinitely more practice sessions, not less, let alone one!!
So many rookies and noobs, there's no way they can magically gel without on-field time together! Is one-practice a CFL-mandated thing or is this a special WFC "rather go for slurpees" thing?
We've taken this approach in short weeks since at least 2019.
Short week going into their first bye week and knowing heads will roll over that time. Sounds like a trap game to me for BC, but the problem is the Bombers are the free space on the Bingo card right now. Give the points and take the Lions on the road.
Quote from: DM83 on July 28, 2024, 11:42:07 PM:D lol!
Team is a joke.
I thought once you become a mod you aren't allowed to message like this anymore! ;)
A high octane offensive team coming off a bye week vs an injury riddled offensively starved team coming off an agonizing loss on a short week.
I'm thinking the Lions see an opportunity to prey on a wounded animal.
BC Lions PRACTICE DAY
Player Name Position Injury SUN MON TUE Game Status
Christophe Beaulieu DB Hamstring Full
Nathan Cherry DL Knee Full
Michael Couture OL Lower back Full
Keon Hatcher WR Achilles Full
David Knevel OL Foot Full
Isaiah Messam LB Knee Full
Lions look healthy...if we can pull out a gritty win vs them it would be huge.
I just don't see us even being close in this one, short week, too many questions along the o-line, no answers at receiver....All a defence has to do when they play us is blitz and we have had nothing to counter this all year....
Zach took an absolute butt whooping last week, I just hope he makes it out of this game with all his parts still attached...I unfortunately don't see him surviving much longer taking the abuse he is, the book is out, blitz the middle, collapse the pocket, Zach can't escape, and the interior o-line has shown they can NOT keep a clean pocket at all...
I will be surprised if Zach makes it our healthy on a short week after the pounding he took last week, I see another 5/6 sack against game coming and another terrible offensive output....
We lose by at least 30
Get Bailey signed and in the lineup along with Whitehead...and start using Streveler more.
A smash mouth ball control offensive game plan with a few deep throws to keep the D honest.
Get the ball into the playmaker hands quickly and block like your life depends on it!
Quote from: Nic16 on July 29, 2024, 07:13:23 PMA high octane offensive team coming off a bye week vs an injury riddled offensively starved team coming off an agonizing loss on a short week.
I'm thinking the Lions see an opportunity to prey on a wounded animal.
Nothing is more dangerous than a wounded animal. It would be easy for BC to look past us thinking they're well rested and we're going to be easy pickings. I'm more concerned with us beating ourselves or the refs doing it if we don't. We could easily be 4-4 right now and trending in the right direction if not for the officials and the fumbles.
We don't have the horses to play run and gun vs BC. We need to pound the rock, take time off the clock/limit their opportunities to score points, and get a couple of turnovers.
Our O line is horrible in Pass Pro, so run the ball
We turn the ball over and it kills whatever momentum we build up dead in its tracks.
Quote from: TBURGESS on July 29, 2024, 02:33:10 PMCGY didn't figure out how to beat BC. BC missed 5 deep balls. Complete just one of them and they win the game.
Why did VAJ miss those deep balls? Because he was harassed and throwing off his back foot all night. CGY 100% cracked the BC code. And we've done it before, too.
In fact, it's been well-known for years: fluster VAJ and bad VAJ appears. The trick is: how to get to VAJ to fluster him...
P.S. Hollins has had a bad few games. Worry about McInnis if you're going to worry about anyone. Take away McInnis, and if Hollins keeps up his suck-streak, they have nothing (though don't leave that new guy wide open!).
VAJ missed them because he had a bad night and the gusty wind didn't help.
Hatcher will be back in the Lions lineup
If Lucky were to be moved from PR to AR what is the cutoff date for the game this week?
Quote from: The Zipp on July 30, 2024, 03:49:44 PMIf Lucky were to be moved from PR to AR what is the cutoff date for the game this week?
They can announce it alongside the depth chart release on Wednesday. I am not sure if it can be later than that, if that's what you're asking.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 30, 2024, 04:04:41 PMThey can announce it alongside the depth chart release on Wednesday. I am not sure if it can be later than that, if that's what you're asking.
Yah that is what I was getting at, not sure if they had to do the move a day before but it makes sense they can do the move when the roster is set.
Quote from: The Zipp on July 30, 2024, 03:24:21 PMHatcher will be back in the Lions lineup
Hatcher, Hollins and McInnis, egad, those are 3 deadly recievers. Our secondary is going to be taxed to the max given the poor pressure our DL gets. This could get ugly
Quote from: The Zipp on July 30, 2024, 03:49:44 PMIf Lucky were to be moved from PR to AR what is the cutoff date for the game this week?
There's virtually no excuse not to dress Lucky for this game if Woli is unable to play. All the excuses they've used to start multiple rookies over him have been extremely weak.
Quote from: dd on July 30, 2024, 04:58:28 PMHatcher, Hollins and McInnis, egad, those are 3 deadly recievers. Our secondary is going to be taxed to the max given the poor pressure our DL gets. This could get ugly
I know everyone is down on our team right now, but BC is not this huge juggernaut of a team that is incapable of losing. They lost last week to Calgary. They only won by 2 points against us and against Edmonton. This is no different than any other week. And even though we've been on the losing side of most games, we've yet to suffer a beat down. We just can't get all three phases moving at the same time.
Quote from: Jesse on July 30, 2024, 06:14:24 PMI know everyone is down on our team right now, but BC is not this huge juggernaut of a team that is incapable of losing. They lost last week to Calgary. They only won by 2 points against us and against Edmonton. This is no different than any other week. And even though we've been on the losing side of most games, we've yet to suffer a beat down. We just can't get all three phases moving at the same time.
Nice perspective, I like it. You are right, we've been in most games, we definitely haven't been playing our best football (especially all three phases in any game), there's no reason we can't win.
It may be a tall order, but I agree - BC is not some beast that will wreak havoc with any team in its path.
Quote from: The Zipp on July 30, 2024, 04:47:26 PMYah that is what I was getting at, not sure if they had to do the move a day before but it makes sense they can do the move when the roster is set.
Even if Lucky isnt listed on the game day roster the team has up to 1 hour before game time to make a change. (changes are more likely when its a home game as all players are available)
Normally if a late change is made the player being inserted into the lineup is replacing someone who is listed as a game time decision on the game day roster.
Wrong thread.
Quote from: BlueInCgy on July 29, 2024, 08:17:36 PMWe lose by at least 30
I'll take that action and I'm sure a few others, 2:1 odds for you ;)
Injury report below
Today's IR report shows: Woli, Neufeld, Carbonneau and Cadwallader as DNP.
We don't exactly have enough Canadians if we lose these 4 to 1 or 6 game IR. Didn't see any of them get injured so we'll see what happens tomorrow.
Quote from: Blue In BC on July 30, 2024, 09:11:33 PMToday's IR report shows: Woli, Neufeld, Carbonneau and Cadwallader as DNP.
We don't exactly have enough Canadians if we lose these 4 to 1 or 6 game IR. Didn't see any of them get injured so we'll see what happens tomorrow.
Any idea how much Cadwallader played?
Quote from: Nic16 on July 29, 2024, 08:23:45 PMGet Bailey signed and in the lineup along with Whitehead...and start using Streveler more.
A smash mouth ball control offensive game plan with a few deep throws to keep the D honest.
Get the ball into the playmaker hands quickly and block like your life depends on it!
I wanted to know why Lucky Whitehead was not playing,and if Bailey would be in lineup. However Strevler imho is a Circus act and was embarrassing watching him on field same time as Zach. What are they going to do have Strevler throw a td pass to Zach? Who is drawing up the plays?
Quote from: Nic16 on July 29, 2024, 08:23:45 PMA smash mouth ball control offensive game plan with a few deep throws to keep the D honest.
Get the ball into the playmaker hands quickly and block like your life depends on it!
I agree with this wholeheartedly. Take a page from BC and Ottawa's playbook -- quick hitters with lots of misdirection and screens to keep the D guessing mixed in with a few deep strikes.
Quote from: Blueforlife on July 30, 2024, 09:22:58 PMAny idea how much Cadwallader played?
He's one of our best teams players.
Well, I don't think it's Woli82 shoulder. But, Neuf was limping in the 4th. quarter so I could see a knee injury.
Looks like Lucky is going to play, he's been moved to the active roster.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 30, 2024, 10:43:52 PMWell, I don't think it's Woli82 shoulder. But, Neuf was limping in the 4th. quarter so I could see a knee injury.
I believe Neufeld has a history of ankle issues. It may be that flaring up. With Woli, I thought at the time maybe ribs but after looking at the replay I thought, hip pointer. If it's a hip pointer that is seldom more than a week or two and lots of RICE.
Bridges and McGhee moved to PR. Whitehead added to AR. I wonder if this means Woli is out or just that we needed another receiver. Depth at worst, rotation at best? If Woli is out then he's probably starting.
Clearly nothing concrete about Bailey.
No news about Lawler practising at all. So not for another game which is after the bye ( 18 days ). Normally that might be practical but this week is do or die. Lawler might not be as close as we hoped and another 18 days might make a difference for him.
At that point we just leave him on 6 game IR for the 2nd round of 6 games and save some SMS.
Quote from: BlueInCgy on July 29, 2024, 08:17:36 PMWe lose by at least 30
You're not serious? I mean, yeah, it's possible and could happen, but our D has been playing pretty well and 30 points is +4TDs.
Quote from: gobombersgo on July 30, 2024, 10:48:11 PMLooks like Lucky is going to play, he's been moved to the active roster.
Finally!
I guess the Lucky vs. BC was the tipping factor.
Quote from: Jesse on July 31, 2024, 01:31:24 AMFinally!
Of course, it's only because Woli is hurt. Still have Johnson back there.