Anyone know how Lawson, Kelly or Parker are doing in rehab? Haven't heard what their specific injuries were. No info they are practising but all will have reached the 6 game missed mark.
So they are eligible to come off but there hasn't been any suggestion that is likely. We likely see extensions happen this week.
Were any of their injuries season ending or is there a guesstimate on when they might start practising again?
Quote from: Blue In BC on July 10, 2024, 03:33:02 PMAnyone know how Lawson, Kelly or Parker are doing in rehab? Haven't heard what their specific injuries were. No info they are practising but all will have reached the 6 game missed mark.
So they are eligible to come off but there hasn't been any suggestion that is likely. We likely see extensions happen this week.
Were any of their injuries season ending or is there a guesstimate on when they might start practising again?
They've reached the 4 game "return to practice with the team" mark, but are 1 game (1-4) away from returning to the AR without $SMS hit. I anticipate any of them that can return won't until after next game so that we recover as much $SMS as we can.
Only Bryant and Chris-Ike are listed as DNP, Garbutt Full. Other 6 gamers still not practising.
Quote from: Blue In BC on July 10, 2024, 03:33:02 PMAnyone know how Lawson, Kelly or Parker are doing in rehab? Haven't heard what their specific injuries were. No info they are practising but all will have reached the 6 game missed mark.
So they are eligible to come off but there hasn't been any suggestion that is likely. We likely see extensions happen this week.
Were any of their injuries season ending or is there a guesstimate on when they might start practising again?
Obviously no one has definitive information, but whenever it's mentioned off hand by reporters, my sense seems to be that none will be back any time soon.
Quote from: Blue In BC on July 10, 2024, 03:33:02 PMAnyone know how Lawson, Kelly or Parker are doing in rehab? Haven't heard what their specific injuries were. No info they are practising but all will have reached the 6 game missed mark.
So they are eligible to come off but there hasn't been any suggestion that is likely. We likely see extensions happen this week.
Were any of their injuries season ending or is there a guesstimate on when they might start practising again?
I reported on this yesterday. Lawson and Parker, not looking good probably need another 6 games.
Kelly running sprints all practice. Look like he is ready.
Can anyone confirm what Schoen's injury actually is and how long he will be out for?
Quote from: BBRT on July 10, 2024, 04:58:14 PMCan anyone confirm what Schoen's injury actually is and how long he will be out for?
IIRC, it was Naylor who reported late last month that Schoen suffered a knee injury* and wouldn't return this season.
The team hasn't confirmed or denied either part.
*
apparently non-contact
Quote from: BBRT on July 10, 2024, 04:58:14 PMCan anyone confirm what Schoen's injury actually is and how long he will be out for?
We know he's out for year. Are you asking the exact recovery time? Because we'll never get that info.
I have been to a few practice since DS83 was injured. Haven't seen him hanging out on the injury bench.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 10, 2024, 05:14:47 PMI have been to a few practice since DS83 was injured. Haven't seen him hanging out on the injury bench.
If he's even still in the city, he's with the trainers going through rehab at that time, probably.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 10, 2024, 04:28:38 PMI reported on this yesterday. Lawson and Parker, not looking good probably need another 6 games.
Kelly running sprints all practice. Look like he is ready.
Kelly was a good ST player but similar to the Noah Hallett issue, we don't currently need to add another Canadian DB.
Noah is on the injury report as practicing despite being on the 6-game. The players you asked about are nowhere on the list. Means they are at minimum 2-3 weeks away, probably more. Likely they'll all be extended and we'll see after that.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 10, 2024, 05:40:17 PMNoah is on the injury report as practicing despite being on the 6-game. The players you asked about are nowhere on the list. Means they are at minimum 2-3 weeks away, probably more. Likely they'll all be extended and we'll see after that.
I know that but it's more of a question about how severe the injuries were. With no info about practising for those players they could be on IR another 6 games or lost for the season. Just looking for more transparency about these and any IR player of even daily IR reports.
Bombers tend to list a bunch of players as Questionable on daily reports and then they play. Other teams seem to be more transparent which is what the league wanted.
Bryant is listed as DNP and I expect him to be listed as Questionable tomorrow. I also expect he probably plays. Of course I could be wrong in this instance but every week we see other teams list players as " out ".
Quote from: Blue In BC on July 10, 2024, 06:10:41 PMI know that but it's more of a question about how severe the injuries were. With no info about practising for those players they could be on IR another 6 games or lost for the season. Just looking for more transparency about these and any IR player of even daily IR reports.
Bombers tend to list a bunch of players as Questionable on daily reports and then they play. Other teams seem to be more transparent which is what the league wanted.
I get asking the question -- we all want to know -- but the reality is no one officially knows what most of the injuries even are let alone how severe they are.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 10, 2024, 06:13:52 PMI get asking the question -- we all want to know -- but the reality is no one officially knows what most of the injuries even are let alone how severe they are.
I get that but the Bombers seem to be the least transparent of all the teams. Using Bryant as the example, I have no doubt the team knows whether he will play this week or not. I want to see if they in fact list him as questionable and whether he plays. I'll be surprised if he's listed as " out " and doesn't play but it's more about how they list him.
Quote from: Blue In BC on July 10, 2024, 06:20:34 PMI get that but the Bombers seem to be the least transparent of all the teams. Using Bryant as the example, I have no doubt the team knows whether he will play this week or not. I want to see if they in fact list him as questionable and whether he plays. I'll be surprised if he's listed as " out " and doesn't play but it's more about how they list him.
It's simple. They don't show their hand more than is required.
In Bryant's case: if he's off to the 6-game IR tomorrow he'll be listed as 'out' at the same time as they make the that move. If he's on the 1 game IR or he's going to play he'll be listed as 'questionable' up until they need to declare their roster.
It's not really unique to the Bombers, though. It's kind of standard procedure.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 10, 2024, 06:33:26 PMIt's simple. They don't show their hand more than is required.
In Bryant's case: if he's off to the 6-game IR tomorrow he'll be listed as 'out' at the same time as they make the that move. If he's on the 1 game IR or he's going to play he'll be listed as 'questionable' up until they need to declare their roster.
It's not really unique to the Bombers, though. It's kind of standard procedure.
That defies the edict to be more transparent which is my point. They are required to do that. Why bother with daily IR reports at all? Opponents aren't preparing their game plan based on IR reports.
If Bryant plays, teams are aware he's a top LT. If he doesn't play they will attack that change. Knowing it sooner doesn't change their planning per se.
Quote from: Blue In BC on July 10, 2024, 07:27:52 PMThat defies the edict to be more transparent which is my point. They are required to do that. Why bother with daily IR reports at all? Opponents aren't preparing their game plan based on IR reports.
If Bryant plays, teams are aware he's a top LT. If he doesn't play they will attack that change. Knowing it sooner doesn't change their planning per se.
Of course teams look at practice reports and may plan contingencies based on what might happen. This is exactly why teams don't give information away until it's required.
Why bother? Well, without one we wouldn't know if Bryant was practicing or not. Now we know. Teams aren't obligated to share their game day status until the end of the practice week - so we haven't yet (It also would be hard to do so accurately early in the week). Montreal and Toronto play tomorrow and it's been updated for them. Tomorrow it will be updated for us. It doesn't mean that there won't be game time decisions.
Hallett and Garbutt full participants but out for this week, the rest are "Questionable", including Collaros, yeah right.
Player Name Position Injury MON TUE WED Game Status
Noah Hallett DB Hip Full Full Full Out
Tanner Gaskill-Cadwallader LB Knee DNP Full Full Questionable
Adam Bighill LB Shoulder Limited Full Full Questionable
TyJuan Garbutt DL Ankle Full Full Full Out
Zach Collaros QB Thorax Full Full Full Questionable
Asotui Eli OL Hip DNP Full Full Questionable
Stanley Bryant OL Hip DNP DNP Full Questionable
Brady Oliveira RB Shoulder DNP Full Full Questionable
Michael Chris-Ike RB Knee Full DNP Full Questionable
Quote from: theaardvark on July 10, 2024, 08:34:42 PMHallett and Garbutt full participants but out for this week, the rest are "Questionable", including Collaros, yeah right.
Player Name Position Injury MON TUE WED Game Status
Noah Hallett DB Hip Full Full Full Out
Tanner Gaskill-Cadwallader LB Knee DNP Full Full Questionable
Adam Bighill LB Shoulder Limited Full Full Questionable
TyJuan Garbutt DL Ankle Full Full Full Out
Zach Collaros QB Thorax Full Full Full Questionable
Asotui Eli OL Hip DNP Full Full Questionable
Stanley Bryant OL Hip DNP DNP Full Questionable
Brady Oliveira RB Shoulder DNP Full Full Questionable
Michael Chris-Ike RB Knee Full DNP Full Questionable
LOL. I think that made my point. The thought teams don't want to let opponents know the status too early is silly. Game planning and calling happens play by play based on who is on the field, game situation etc.
These daily reports have only been around a few years. How oh how did the opponents know what to do before these reports surfaced.
Today's still doesn't tell us anything particularly useful. Confirms 6 game IR players not dressing but that's about it.
I bet the Stamps are trolling this thread to figure out who to prepare for lol
All jokes aside great discussion and thread very informative
Quote from: Blue In BC on July 10, 2024, 09:14:59 PMLOL. I think that made my point. The thought teams don't want to let opponents know the status too early is silly. Game planning and calling happens play by play based on who is on the field, game situation etc.
These daily reports have only been around a few years. How oh how did the opponents know what to do before these reports surfaced.
Today's still doesn't tell us anything particularly useful. Confirms 6 game IR players not dressing but that's about it.
Injury reports co-incide with legal sports betting and sponsorships... they aren't for us, the fan, or the opposing team. They are for the oddsmakers and bettors.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 10, 2024, 05:07:00 PMIIRC, it was Naylor who reported late last month that Schoen suffered a knee injury* and wouldn't return this season.
The team hasn't confirmed or denied either part.
I could have sworn MOS admitted in one of the pressers Schoen was gone for the season.
Based on everything posted here over the couple of months my hunch is Parker is a season-ender too, but that's pure speculation.
I'd think everyone else may return at some point. The 6GIR depresses me to look at! At least we stopped adding names to it last week!
Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 10, 2024, 11:17:26 PMI could have sworn MOS admitted in one of the pressers Schoen was gone for the season.
Based on everything posted here over the couple of months my hunch is Parker is a season-ender too, but that's pure speculation.
I'd think everyone else may return at some point. The 6GIR depresses me to look at! At least we stopped adding names to it last week!
He aluded to it which is about as much you'll ever get out of O'Shea on the injury front.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 11, 2024, 02:05:42 AMHe aluded to it which is about as much you'll ever get out of O'Shea on the injury front.
He did more than allude to it, he said "it looks like Schoen will be out for the year". What else can he say?
So our 7 "questionable " players are all suiting up. What a surprise.
Quote from: Blue In BC on July 11, 2024, 03:55:52 PMSo our 7 "questionable " players are all suiting up. What a surprise.
They all practiced in full and were listed as questionable because they appeared on the injury list at some point during the week. Of the all the transparency issues that there are to criticize, this isn't one of them.
Lawson and Parker will definitely get another 6 games.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 10, 2024, 05:14:47 PMI have been to a few practice since DS83 was injured. Haven't seen him hanging out on the injury bench.
I am not sure if Schoen is in the city rehabbing his whole time but he is in town for an autograph signing on Saturday.
Quote from: Blue In BC on July 11, 2024, 03:55:52 PMSo our 7 "questionable " players are all suiting up. What a surprise.
Ya, what else is new. We basically all know this beforehand. Maybe it's to just confuse the enemy?
Quote from: Jesse on July 11, 2024, 04:25:09 PMThey all practiced in full and were listed as questionable because they appeared on the injury list at some point during the week. Of the all the transparency issues that there are to criticize, this isn't one of them.
Ya, I think we need to just accept it as the "MOS way" and move on. I don't get angered by it. Hey, at least they give us the (semi-useless) list each practice now. Used to be we got nothing.