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Title: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: ModAdmin on May 12, 2024, 06:24:39 AM
Main Training Camp opens May 12 and runs until June 1.  Practices will be open to the public.

Dates and times can be seen here. (http://forums.bluebombers.com/index.php?topic=55606.0)

News and views on training camp can be posted here. 

Training Camp Preview


"...the first day of training camp marks an occasion where old meets new – veterans welcoming wide-eyed rookies, old ideas mixed with fresh new concepts, and old storylines intersecting with what is ahead.

The Blue Bombers, it could be argued, remain the most compelling team heading into the season as a clear-cut front-runner for the Grey Cup – Vegas oddsmakers have them at +200 – and yet a team with some to-be-determined vacancies that need to be filled and questions to answer in advance of the season opener June 6th at Princess Auto Stadium against the Montreal Alouettes.

So, it's with that as a backdrop that we preview what's next with 10 storylines/questions to monitor as training camp opens, in no particular order..."


https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/05/11/training-camp-preview-3/
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: gobombersgo on May 12, 2024, 09:00:09 AM
By my count there be at least 12 cuts announced this morning to get down to the 85 roster limit (plus non-counters).

It would be 14 needed however Oliveira and Brady are on the injured veterans list it.

The 4 below should be included as it looks like none of them showed up to rookie camp:

WR 72 Braxton Burmeister

DT 92 Kenneth Randall

DB 13 James Campbell

DB 46 Montrae Braswell

DE 52 Ali Fayad and OL 69 Kendall Randolph might get cut if their injuries are considered to be long term. 
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 12, 2024, 01:17:48 PM
Released: Defensive lineman Ali Fayad*, defensive lineman Jordan Lewis*, defensive lineman David Green*, offensive lineman Kendall Randolph*, receiver Bryce Mitchell*, receiver Keytaon Thompson*, kicker Jose Borregales*, and defensive lineman Anthony Bennett

Transferred to suspended list: Defensive back James Campbell*, defensive back Montrae Braswell*, receiver Braxton Burmeister*, and defensive lineman Kenny Randall*
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Waffler on May 12, 2024, 01:21:33 PM
Any word if practice is delayed or cancelled? Air quality currently being a 10 (very high risk). 
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: DCM on May 12, 2024, 01:52:59 PM
@Darren_Cameron
This morning's practice has been delayed due to poor air quality. We will provide further information around noon on a start time for this afternoon.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: BomberFan73 on May 12, 2024, 02:22:11 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 12, 2024, 01:17:48 PMReleased: Defensive lineman Ali Fayad*, defensive lineman Jordan Lewis*, defensive lineman David Green*, offensive lineman Kendall Randolph*, receiver Bryce Mitchell*, receiver Keytaon Thompson*, kicker Jose Borregales*, and defensive lineman Anthony Bennett

Transferred to suspended list: Defensive back James Campbell*, defensive back Montrae Braswell*, receiver Braxton Burmeister*, and defensive lineman Kenny Randall*

What?  We released Anthony Bennett?  We drafted him 8th OA just lastyear!
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 12, 2024, 03:41:47 PM
Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 12, 2024, 02:22:11 PMWhat?  We released Anthony Bennett?  We drafted him 8th OA just lastyear!

Surprising early cut, but who knows the reason, there could be multiple explanations.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: kkc60 on May 12, 2024, 03:46:54 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 12, 2024, 03:41:47 PMSurprising early cut, but who knows the reason, there could be multiple explanations for this cut.
Whew, a bad pick to say the least. That's the tough part of drafting older prospects, is their high production because of skill or the fact he was a 26 year old playing against 21 or 22 year olds? Undersized DE doesn't help either. Glad they moved on without wasting time at least. Interesting to see the teams plan at DE. Must be going with a DI there
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: BomberFan73 on May 12, 2024, 03:53:56 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 12, 2024, 03:41:47 PMSurprising early cut, but who knows the reason, there could be multiple explanations for this cut.
Ya, to not even see him in camp must be an injury or personal reasons
I'm more upset at the waste of a top pick.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: ModAdmin on May 12, 2024, 04:09:45 PM
Blue Bombers Transactions (1st Training Camp Cuts)

WINNIPEG, MB., May 12, 2024 – The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the following transactions:

Released from roster:

American defensive lineman Ali Fayad
American defensive lineman Jordan Lewis
American defensive lineman David Green
American offensive lineman Kendall Randolph
American receiver Bryce Mitchell
American receiver Keytaon Thompson
American kicker Jose Borregales
Canadian defensive lineman Anthony Bennett

Transferred to suspended list:

American defensive back James Campbell
American defensive back Montrae Braswell
American receiver Braxton Burmeister
American defensive lineman Kenny Randall
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: kkc60 on May 12, 2024, 04:19:42 PM
Quote from: ModAdmin on May 12, 2024, 04:09:45 PMBlue Bombers Transactions (1st Training Camp Cuts)

WINNIPEG, MB., May 12, 2024 – The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the following transactions:

Released from roster:

American defensive lineman Ali Fayad
American defensive lineman Jordan Lewis
American defensive lineman David Green
American offensive lineman Kendall Randolph
American receiver Bryce Mitchell
American receiver Keytaon Thompson
American kicker Jose Borregales
Canadian defensive lineman Anthony Bennett

Transferred to suspended list:

American defensive back James Campbell
American defensive back Montrae Braswell
American receiver Braxton Burmeister
American defensive lineman Kenny Randall
Hopefully if it was injuries for Fayad and Randolph, we see them back later. Otherwise, no big surprises
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: pdirks67 on May 12, 2024, 04:21:49 PM
Quote from: kkc60 on May 12, 2024, 04:19:42 PMHopefully if it was injuries for Fayad and Randolph, we see them back later. Otherwise, no big surprises

Anthony Bennett is a big surprise for me! I mean, I know he didn't pop last year, but he was a first round draft pick last year. I expected him to pretty much have a free ride through his second season.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: kkc60 on May 12, 2024, 04:25:20 PM
Quote from: pdirks67 on May 12, 2024, 04:21:49 PMAnthony Bennett is a big surprise for me! I mean, I know he didn't pop last year, but he was a first round draft pick last year. I expected him to pretty much have a free ride, even this season.
Yeah that's honestly fair. I guess I just kinda already saw him as similar to Ekakitie. Older prospect, didn't test great, viewed as a  high floor low ceiling prospect going into the draft.

Super disappointing outcome but not entirely surprising. I think a guy like Menard, if affordable, could be a good guy to bring in. Or maybe we roll with an all canadian interior and 3 american DEs?
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: pdirks67 on May 12, 2024, 04:43:38 PM
Quote from: kkc60 on May 12, 2024, 04:25:20 PMYeah that's honestly fair. I guess I just kinda already saw him as similar to Ekakitie. Older prospect, didn't test great, viewed as a  high floor low ceiling prospect going into the draft.

Super disappointing outcome but not entirely surprising. I think a guy like Menard, if affordable, could be a good guy to bring in. Or maybe we roll with an all canadian interior and 3 american DEs?

We have accumulated a bunch of Canadian interior d-linemen - interesting. And we don't seem to have much of a ceiling with the American DTs that we haved on the roster.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pete on May 12, 2024, 04:48:24 PM
releasing bennet is a indicator of the Canadian talent we've brought in, Disappointed that we released Keaton Thompson, he's another one of those players whose highlight film wasn't reflective of his ability I guess.
Am concerned with the de position, Fayad was supposed to be a good candidate, but we've had to continually bring in new players, the worrisome part is the last ones we've signed have had cfl experience with other teams and been cut. Maybe its time to give Kongbo a call especially if we've freed up some cap with not signing Grant
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: gobombersgo on May 12, 2024, 04:55:09 PM
Quote from: kkc60 on May 12, 2024, 04:19:42 PMHopefully if it was injuries for Fayad and Randolph, we see them back later. Otherwise, no big surprises

I think Fayad will be back once healthy but I'm not sure on Randolph unless the team is really high on him.

They already have some good tackle prospects like Coleman and Vanterpool in camp.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: DCM on May 12, 2024, 05:51:08 PM
As of 12:44PM

@Wpg_BlueBombers
Not yet - we will update X when we have a confirmed time!

https://twitter.com/Wpg_BlueBombers/status/1789713342975578160
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: DCM on May 12, 2024, 06:05:36 PM
@DarrinBauming
Aim is 2:30 this afternoon at the stadium, while a move indoors just down the street at Winnipeg Soccer Federation South is a possibility. #Bombers

https://twitter.com/DarrinBauming/status/1789716025534996934

Expect an update from the Bombers around 1:30 apparently.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: DCM on May 12, 2024, 06:43:42 PM
@Wpg_BlueBombers
🚨NOTICE: Training camp will open indoors at WSF South at 2:45 pm this afternoon and is open to the public.

https://twitter.com/Wpg_BlueBombers/status/1789727614489284858
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 12, 2024, 07:00:53 PM
Anyone going?
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: DCM on May 12, 2024, 07:10:19 PM
@Wpg_BlueBombers
This afternoon's practice will now be held at Princess Auto Stadium

https://twitter.com/Wpg_BlueBombers/status/1789734647405920740
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 12, 2024, 08:06:19 PM
Surprised that Bennett was released so early in camp. But, I am not surprised the Bombers released him.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: ModAdmin on May 12, 2024, 08:14:03 PM
Ed Tait
@EdTaitWFC

Among the Day 1 @Wpg_BlueBombers not practising- Demski, Oliveira, Neufeld.
Still here: Ali Fayad and Kendall Randolph
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: DCM on May 13, 2024, 12:02:50 AM
Quick Hits | Training Camp — Day 1 Ed Tait
https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/05/12/quick-hits-training-camp-day-1-2/
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: pdirks67 on May 13, 2024, 12:15:42 AM
Quote from: DCM on May 13, 2024, 12:02:50 AMQuick Hits | Training Camp — Day 1 Ed Tait
https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/05/12/quick-hits-training-camp-day-1-2/


Here's the deal on Anthony Bennett, from the report above:

The most notable of that group is Bennett, the Canadian DE who played in every game last year, including the playoffs. Blue Bombers head coach Mike O'Shea said the club's top pick from last year's draft came into camp with an injury and he's certainly still in the team's plans.

"He's just not healthy," said O'Shea. "He's a guy that hope would be able to rehab and we can get back in the room — we're certainly not writing him off, for sure. We picked him for a reason. We like him."

Asked later in his media session what he liked about Bennett's rookie year, O'Shea added:

"I think he did well and like every other rookie, when they come into their second year they're primed to really show a lot more. And just with the comfort level I thought he was going to come in and do great things. For that young man it's unfortunate. We give him a day to collect his thoughts and then kick him in the butt to get him going and he'll be fired up (Monday) t0 get after it and see where the rehab's going to take him."
.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: gobombersgo on May 13, 2024, 07:00:16 AM
Thanks to Darrin Bauming (@DarrinBauming) for scanning the roster into X:
2024 #Bombers Training Camp Roster:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNZkSfUW8AAw1Jj?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 13, 2024, 12:49:38 PM
Another 10 will be released by tomorrow at midnight. Probably most will be from the receiver and DB group, maybe a LB and DL.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 13, 2024, 04:53:44 PM
Did they practise on schedule today?
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: pdirks67 on May 13, 2024, 04:55:29 PM
Quote from: kkc60 on May 12, 2024, 04:25:20 PMOr maybe we roll with an all canadian interior and 3 american DEs?


Jeff Hamilton speculates on the possibility of an all-Canadian interior DL in his article today:

As for Walker, there are a couple Americans vying for the spot in Miles Fox, who spent time with the B.C. Lions before being released and scooped up by the Bombers, and Jabari Ellis, whose resumé includes a brief time with the Montreal Alouettes. Don't be surprised, though, if Winnipeg considers an all-Canadian interior, with the likes of one of Cam Lawson and Tanner Schmekel pairing up with veteran Jake Thomas.

"There is a lot of competition and even those guys that were here last year, maybe they're penciled in as Day 1 starters, but I really think there are a lot of jobs up for grabs," said Thomas, who is the longest-tenured Bomber, now in his 12th training camp with the club. "I can't remember the last time we've had this many people here for training camp. The reason I've been able to play in this league so long is because I've never felt comfortable. Once you start feeling comfortable and safe, that usually doesn't work out too well for you."


https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/2024/05/12/lots-of-openings-on-bombers-roster (https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/2024/05/12/lots-of-openings-on-bombers-roster)
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 13, 2024, 05:26:37 PM
There are a few opening that will be filled by imports. Too many in competition at the moment to even guess how this will work out.

So my curiosity at the moment will be about the newer Canadians making the roster. Barring injury, this is what I'm thinking:

DB: T. Ford and Noah Hallett make the AR. It's make or break TC for Noah. Kelly and MacDougall make PR. McCarthy is released.

DE/DT: A decent chance Hubert makes the AR if not returning for school, but I'm thinking Kornelson and Samson are more likely. That makes Schmekel the odd man out depending on the whether 2 of the other 3 end up going to PR.

LB: Leroux is going back to school. I give the edge to Charbonneau to make the AR. Beeksma goes to PR but could be an actual release. A fly in the ointment is whether one of the rookie global LB's take the spot of one of the Canadian LB's on teams.

OL: Wallace has the edge. One of Kalra or Viahogiannous goes to PR. Is either returning to college?

RB/WR: Rosery might make PR until our 2024 draft choice arrives. Clercius makes the AR. Murphy makes the PR. I don't see much hope for Gassama. Too small and not likely to play teams like the other choices.

These are just idol thoughts, so we'll see if I'm close to projections.

 
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 13, 2024, 06:38:58 PM
Spent a couple of hours at TC today. They had us on the east side in the shade, so it was a bit cooler.

QB: Strev17 was looking like he's game ready. Wilson was the most impressive of the three gunning for the #3 QB position. The kid has a good arm, and has some outstanding speed.

WR: DS83 looks like he has packed on a little muscle. #86 Wilson, #2 Case, #70 Martin. Case and Wilson both have the speed to run under balls. They also caught everything thrown there way. Martin run excellent routes, and has good hands.

DL: Fox, Waggoner, Ellis, and Hubert, all have good motors.

OL: Wallace is a mountain of a man. Seems to move well. Coleman looked pretty good. Has good foot work.

LB: Petrishen, and Charbonneau, stood out. Charbonneau is a big guy that seems to get to the ball quickly. Petrishen seems to have a nose for the ball and has good speed.

DB: To many a this point. But, Tyrell Ford closes on the ball quickly, he is very quick.

The bombers have Rosery lined up as a WR. Very good hands and excellent speed.

Disappointed there was no kick returns while we were there.   
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 13, 2024, 10:21:28 PM
I see we signed Chris-Ike today. Good news.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: LXTSN on May 14, 2024, 12:31:38 AM
Quote from: Pigskin on May 13, 2024, 06:38:58 PMSpent a couple of hours at TC today. They had us on the east side in the shade, so it was a bit cooler.

QB: Strev17 was looking like he's game ready. Wilson was the most impressive of the three gunning for the #3 QB position. The kid has a good arm, and has some outstanding speed.

WR: DS83 looks like he has packed on a little muscle. #86 Wilson, #2 Case, #70 Martin. Case and Wilson both have the speed to run under balls. They also caught everything thrown there way. Martin run excellent routes, and has good hands.

DL: Fox, Waggoner, Ellis, and Hubert, all have good motors.

OL: Wallace is a mountain of a man. Seems to move well. Coleman looked pretty good. Has good foot work.

LB: Petrishen, and Charbonneau, stood out. Charbonneau is a big guy that seems to get to the ball quickly. Petrishen seems to have a nose for the ball and has good speed.

DB: To many a this point. But, Tyrell Ford closes on the ball quickly, he is very quick.

The bombers have Rosery lined up as a WR. Very good hands and excellent speed.

Disappointed there was no kick returns while we were there.   
Thanks so much for putting your time into this!
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: ichabod_crane on May 14, 2024, 12:41:55 AM
Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 12, 2024, 02:22:11 PMWhat?  We released Anthony Bennett?  We drafted him 8th OA just lastyear!

He was a bit of a flyer if I recall in the draft last year. Maybe just never panned out and they cut him early to have a shot elsewhere. Faith Ekakitie was another first round bust (First overall in 2017) along with Jade Etienne (2011) as a first rounder (not 1st overall though). Tyson Pencer another first round bust in 2012.

Kito Poblah was a supplemental draft pick in 2011, but the Bombers had to give up a 2012 first round draft pick to get him.

Hmm, a lot of these first round busts seem to have occurred before Kyle Walters become the full time GM in 2014!! ;) Still he has had a few stinkers along with I am sure Mike O'Shea & other coaches and scouts with input for every CFL draft. It's not a one man show with Walters for drafting even though the BUCK STOPS WITH HIM in the end! ;)

This is not a solitary issue for the CFL, but all pro sports. Johnny "Football" Manziel. Ryan Leaf arguable the WORST EVER NFL First overall pick! Akili Smith...even stunk out the joint with the Stamps after NFL Tossed him. Brian Bosworth....Alexandre Daigle and Nail Yakupov in the NHL..Doug Wickenheiser  (1980), Pavel Brendl (was great as a Calgary Hitmen)...too big an ego though and lazy. Relied on his pure skill too much at the NHL level when you can get away with it in Junior.

Even Ryan Getzlaf I remember playing for the Hitmen. He too relied on his pure skill at the junior level, but was lazy often times in the regular season. Had a great WHL playoffs one season before he was drafted by Anaheim. Turned into a Stanley Cup winner soon after with the Ducks and Corey Perry. 
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: ModAdmin on May 14, 2024, 01:54:32 AM
Mike O'Shea's take on Day 2 of Training Camp...

https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/05/13/coach-oshea-may-13-2/
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 14, 2024, 04:00:54 AM
Quote from: ichabod_crane on May 14, 2024, 12:41:55 AMHe was a bit of a flyer if I recall in the draft last year. Maybe just never panned out and they cut him early to have a shot elsewhere. Faith Ekakitie was another first round bust (First overall in 2017) along with Jade Etienne (2011) as a first rounder (not 1st overall though). Tyson Pencer another first round bust in 2012.

Kito Poblah was a supplemental draft pick in 2011, but the Bombers had to give up a 2012 first round draft pick to get him.

Hmm, a lot of these first round busts seem to have occurred before Kyle Walters become the full time GM in 2014!! ;) Still he has had a few stinkers along with I am sure Mike O'Shea & other coaches and scouts with input for every CFL draft. It's not a one man show with Walters for drafting even though the BUCK STOPS WITH HIM in the end! ;)

This is not a solitary issue for the CFL, but all pro sports. Johnny "Football" Manziel. Ryan Leaf arguable the WORST EVER NFL First overall pick! Akili Smith...even stunk out the joint with the Stamps after NFL Tossed him. Brian Bosworth....Alexandre Daigle and Nail Yakupov in the NHL..Doug Wickenheiser  (1980), Pavel Brendl (was great as a Calgary Hitmen)...too big an ego though and lazy. Relied on his pure skill too much at the NHL level when you can get away with it in Junior.

Even Ryan Getzlaf I remember playing for the Hitmen. He too relied on his pure skill at the junior level, but was lazy often times in the regular season. Had a great WHL playoffs one season before he was drafted by Anaheim. Turned into a Stanley Cup winner soon after with the Ducks and Corey Perry. 

O'Shea already clarified that Bennett has some health issue and may have failed his medical.  He said he was happy with his progress last season and looks forward to welcoming him back after he's rehabbed.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 14, 2024, 01:23:16 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 13, 2024, 10:21:28 PMI see we signed Chris-Ike today. Good news.

I see this only on the transaction page at CFL.ca but not on 3down, from the Bombers or anywhere else. Kind of odd.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 14, 2024, 01:58:48 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 14, 2024, 01:23:16 PMI see this only on the transaction page at CFL.ca but not on 3down, from the Bombers or anywhere else. Kind of odd.

It just showed up on 3down this morning.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 14, 2024, 02:30:02 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 14, 2024, 01:58:48 PMIt just showed up on 3down this morning.

Nice! Well that's exciting. Bombers put out something too now. Speed is good.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/05/14/blue-bombers-sign-2024-draft-selection-michael-chris-ike/
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: BomberFan73 on May 14, 2024, 03:10:17 PM
More cuts coming today....doesn't it seem a bit early for cuts?  They've barely seen some of these guys practice.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: ModAdmin on May 14, 2024, 04:31:08 PM
Quick Hits | Training Camp — Day 2

"..."It's a different mindset compared to last year," said Haba after Monday's session. "I'm more focussed, more confident, but at the same time not too confident. It's still an open competition. I just try to put my best foot forward and know that I'm competing for that spot at the end of the day."

Haba showed flashes a year ago, racking up four sacks in eight games after arriving in camp at the end of May and suiting up for a preseason game three days later and then earning a spot on the Week 1 roster. In that game he came off the bench to replace an injured Jeffcoat and racked up his first sack by bringing down Hamilton Tiger-Cats quarterback Bo Levi Mitchell. He did the same thing a week later against Saskatchewan, and the week after that against B.C.

Just imagine, then, what this guy might be able to do with a full camp under his belt and a better understanding of Winnipeg, the Blue Bombers way and the three-down game...."


https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/05/13/quick-hits-training-camp-day-2-3/

Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 14, 2024, 04:37:16 PM
Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 14, 2024, 03:10:17 PMMore cuts coming today....doesn't it seem a bit early for cuts?  They've barely seen some of these guys practice.

Yah it was always my impression that they try to process too much new information in too small a timeframe, what's the rush?  If the CFL ever becomes financially comfortable it would be nice to see them add another week or 10 days to to the TC tryouts.  Spread it out, no need to have every single player on the field every day, offence one day, defence the next, give players and coaches more time to rest, focus and absorb.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: BomberFan73 on May 14, 2024, 04:44:26 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 14, 2024, 04:37:16 PMYah it was always my impression that they try to process too much new information in too small a timeframe, what's the rush?  If the CFL ever becomes financially comfortable it would be nice to see them add another week or 10 days to to the TC tryouts.  Spread it out, no need to have every single player on the field every day, offence one day, defence the next, give players and coaches more time to rest, focus and absorb.

The vets might choke hard reading that, but even a few days more for rookie camp would help, right? 
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Jesse on May 14, 2024, 05:12:04 PM
Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 14, 2024, 03:10:17 PMMore cuts coming today....doesn't it seem a bit early for cuts?  They've barely seen some of these guys practice.

There's only cuts if you're over the roster limits.

And I guess the idea is you bring in more guys than you're able to have because there's going to be a certain number of guys who don't show up, some don't pass their physicals, others get injured, etc, etc.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: theaardvark on May 14, 2024, 05:28:17 PM
Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 14, 2024, 04:44:26 PMThe vets might choke hard reading that, but even a few days more for rookie camp would help, right? 

The other option would be to find some way to split up practice through the day so that each group gets a focused time for evaluation.  I know the CBA has a limit on practice time, not sure if that is changed if the groups are split up or not.  or whether the coaches have limits on their time.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 14, 2024, 05:50:18 PM
Quote from: Jesse on May 14, 2024, 05:12:04 PMThere's only cuts if you're over the roster limits.

And I guess the idea is you bring in more guys than you're able to have because there's going to be a certain number of guys who don't show up, some don't pass their physicals, others get injured, etc, etc.

In theory each team will have to cut 10 players or put them on IR / suspension. IIRC the Bombers had 4 rookie players not show up for the rookie camp.

The rookies that showed up ( that weren't released in round 1 ) will have had 3 days of rookie camp and 3 days of the main TC.

It's not a lot of time but any early injury or arrival is not good for those players.

Interesting question about splitting up time for different groups. That might work but you need the interaction between offence and defence as well.

Bombers 1st pre season game is on the 20th so roster needs to trimmed as we move forward.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: BomberFan73 on May 14, 2024, 06:18:20 PM
who were the 4 rookies that didn't show?
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 14, 2024, 08:08:03 PM
Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 14, 2024, 06:18:20 PMwho were the 4 rookies that didn't show?

The 4 below should be included as it looks like none of them showed up to rookie camp:

WR 72 Braxton Burmeister

DT 92 Kenneth Randall

DB 13 James Campbell

DB 46 Montrae Braswell
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 14, 2024, 10:16:41 PM
Anyone go see today?

The Winnipeg Sports talk spent all of 3 mins on the Blue Bombers. Kinda sad there. Spent all the time rambling about Lemon and Kelly BS.
Endless Jets talk. They are out nothing will happen for a while. Let's talk Blue Bombers .

Rant over
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: ModAdmin on May 15, 2024, 04:21:13 AM
Quick Hits | Training Camp — Day 3

"...Chris-Ike was a late arrival to Blue Bombers camp after first attending rookie mini-camp with the New York Jets, and then the New Orleans Saints last weekend. His statistics at Delaware State hardly scream out — he had just 15 carries last year for the Hornets — but his testing numbers were eye-popping and that led to the NFL interest. He was one of the standouts at the CFL Combine, posting the fastest times in the 40-yard dash (4.51 seconds), 3-cone drill (6.71 seconds) and short shuttle (4.19 seconds).

"The highlight (of the Jets/Saints camps) was the experience and learning to be a pro," said Chris-Ike of his two weekends with NFL teams. "It's all the ins and outs you don't see behind the scenes. When you're watching from home you don't really see the preparation that goes in hand, learning that and then learning the offence and all that stuff.

"I tried to stay in the moment, in the present, and stay focussed on the task at hand. I knew I was drafted here, of course, so it's hard in the back (of your mind) to cancel out everything. But I tried to stay in the present moment and where my feet are......"


https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/05/14/quick-hits-training-camp-day-3-3/
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: BomberFan73 on May 15, 2024, 12:21:24 PM
So who got cut?  ???
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 15, 2024, 01:12:59 PM
I haven't seen any cuts anywhere in the CFL last night. Maybe we see some activity early this am?
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 15, 2024, 01:13:46 PM
Why are we sure we are releasing people today? Is there a cut-down rule for the 15th or something?
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: gobombersgo on May 15, 2024, 01:16:50 PM
BLUE BOMBERS TRANSACTIONS MAY 15

The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the following transactions:

Released from roster:
Canadian Linebacker Jared Beeksma
American receiver Ravi Alston
American running back Ronnie Brown
American defensive lineman John Waggoner
American defensive back Raleigh Texada
American defensive back CJ Siegel
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 15, 2024, 01:20:30 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 15, 2024, 01:13:46 PMWhy are we sure we are releasing people today? Is there a cut-down rule for the 15th or something?

Yes down from 85 counters to 75. In theory that means 10 possibly being released.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 15, 2024, 01:21:22 PM
I guess Ravi didn't show enough progress from year 1 to 2. Beeksma is the only other guy of some note. We signed him in July last year and he got in a couple games.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 15, 2024, 01:21:34 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 15, 2024, 01:20:30 PMYes down from 85 counters to 75. In theory that means 10 possibly being released.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 15, 2024, 01:30:32 PM
I thought Beeksma might be in tough. Charbonneau was probably ahead of him on the depth chart as the replacement for Briggs.

That said, we drafted 2 global LB's and have more import LB's in camp than last year. I have no certainty about how we use our DI's yet but Clements is also gone as one of the DI's last year.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 15, 2024, 01:35:37 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 15, 2024, 01:30:32 PMI thought Beeksma might be in tough. Charbonneau was probably ahead of him on the depth chart as the replacement for Briggs.

That said, we drafted 2 global LB's and have more import LB's in camp than last year. I have no certainty about how we use our DI's yet but Clements is also gone as one of the DI's last year.

Yea. I would say kick/punt cover is definitely one area they are looking to improve and we'll probably see a few more changes yet.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: ModAdmin on May 15, 2024, 02:37:30 PM
Blue Bombers Transactions - May 15, 2024

WINNIPEG, MB., May 15, 2024 – The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the following transactions:

Released from roster:

Canadian Linebacker Jared Beeksma
American receiver Ravi Alston
American running back Ronnie Brown
American defensive lineman John Waggoner
American defensive back Raleigh Texada
American defensive back CJ Siegel
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 15, 2024, 02:57:51 PM
Some footage of OL/DL in one on one action.

https://twitter.com/Wpg_BlueBombers/status/1789845433558208654 (https://twitter.com/Wpg_BlueBombers/status/1789845433558208654)

As far as I can figure in order of matchups.

#91 Jamal Woods vs. #64 Dobson

#57 Kyle Samson vs. #58 Huge Wallace

#92 Rivers??? vs. #58 Ivy

#5 Willie vs. #60 Keith Khalil

#96 Schmeck with the spin move vs. #67 Kola

#57 Jamal Woods vs. #57 Vlahogiannis

#90 Fox destroying #67 Kola
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 15, 2024, 02:59:02 PM
Quote from: gobombersgo on May 15, 2024, 01:16:50 PMBLUE BOMBERS TRANSACTIONS MAY 15

The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the following transactions:

Released from roster:
Canadian Linebacker Jared Beeksma
American receiver Ravi Alston
American running back Ronnie Brown
American defensive lineman John Waggoner
American defensive back Raleigh Texada
American defensive back CJ Siegel

Easy come, easy go, hardly got to know ya.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: theaardvark on May 15, 2024, 04:00:51 PM
Some of these may end up on the PR, although most PR spots come from the final cuts, I think some of our final cuts might find interest from other teams.

Beeksma and Alston being early cuts after PR/AR time last year says to me that they got outplayed by rookies pretty solidly.  Not great for them, but give fans high hopes that we are improving.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 15, 2024, 04:13:23 PM
There are only 5 players from last year's PR still on the roster: Haba, Garbutt, Fox, McGhee and Schmekel. Those imports are probably still the leading candidates to make the AR.

That said, the real battles start today with the reduced roster. Nobody can afford any injury to allow others to get more reps and move ahead in the depth chart.

I only see Rivers as the only import DE rookie. D'Abreau, Ellis and Woods as imports at DT. A few Canadian rookie in the battles as well.

What we do with our DI's may allow room for an extra DL and a couple of players will be PR's.

Hard to tell if a 2023 PR guy that doesn't make the AR, is willing to go back to PR.

So lots of things in play here.

OTOH, McGhee may be the leading candidate at the moment but there are 10 rookie imports looking to win that spot. Also a few extra Canadians and Ford might win the starting role. There may or may not be room for a DB as a DI.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: gobombersgo on May 15, 2024, 08:30:32 PM
Quote from: theaardvark on May 15, 2024, 04:00:51 PMSome of these may end up on the PR, although most PR spots come from the final cuts, I think some of our final cuts might find interest from other teams.

Beeksma and Alston being early cuts after PR/AR time last year says to me that they got outplayed by rookies pretty solidly.  Not great for them, but give fans high hopes that we are improving.

It's too early into camp.

There is zero chance any of these guys end up on the practice roster.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: theaardvark on May 15, 2024, 08:53:27 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 15, 2024, 04:13:23 PMThere are only 5 players from last year's PR still on the roster: Haba, Garbutt, Fox, McGhee and Schmekel. Those imports are probably still the leading candidates to make the AR.

That said, the real battles start today with the reduced roster. Nobody can afford any injury to allow others to get more reps and move ahead in the depth chart.

I only see Rivers as the only import DE rookie. D'Abreau, Ellis and Woods as imports at DT. A few Canadian rookie in the battles as well.

What we do with our DI's may allow room for an extra DL and a couple of players will be PR's.

Hard to tell if a 2023 PR guy that doesn't make the AR, is willing to go back to PR.

So lots of things in play here.

OTOH, McGhee may be the leading candidate at the moment but there are 10 rookie imports looking to win that spot. Also a few extra Canadians and Ford might win the starting role. There may or may not be room for a DB as a DI.

You have to wonder... on Survivor, they seem to focus on players that are about to be voted out a lot of the time.  They've done pieces on Haba and McGhee, and have talked about Schmekel as part of a all Nat DT rotation.  For these former PR members, the AR looks like a possibility.

Anyone putting together a "way too early" depth chart?
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 15, 2024, 09:21:10 PM
Another cool day at Bomber practice. Seems to be lots of construction going on at the Stadium. The new turf looks very nice, the old tuff is in the parking lot cut into 4' x 4' piece. Working on getting a couple of pieces.

DL: Fox is a big man with a nasty side to him. Really like his motor. I think he will replace Walker nicely. Thomas, Schmekel, Lawson, Samson. Thomas is the smallest of these four, and the oldest at 33. So far, Samson has looked very good. 

RB: Chris-Ike definitely has some speed. Seems also to have good hands.

DB: McDougall, tall kid that gets to the ball quickly. Noah might be looking over his shoulder.

QB: Strev17 showing his speed on one running play. I think Haba was a little surprised. Strev17 might be a little quicker this season. Bison QB Tachinski has all the tools. 6'4" 225, he can run and throws a very nice ball.

Little surprised that Alston was cut so soon. He has worked mostly with the #1 offence most of camp.

WR: Case continues to impressive. The kid catches everything, and is pretty quick. Reminds me of Weston Dressler, just a little bigger. 

LB: AB4s lower body looks a lot heavier.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: gobombersgo on May 15, 2024, 09:34:29 PM
The Bombers never explained earlier today why they only announced 6 cuts when 10 players had to be removed from the roster.

Now we know the other 4 moves that were made.

The CFL transactions page has Parker, Bighill and Noah Hallett moved to the 6 game injured list and Neufeld was moved to the retired list.

Hopefully Neufeld isnt actually retiring.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 15, 2024, 10:04:54 PM
Didn't Neufled come late to camp last season?
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 15, 2024, 10:21:05 PM
Quote from: gobombersgo on May 15, 2024, 09:34:29 PMThe Bombers never explained earlier today why they only announced 6 cuts when 10 players had to be removed from the roster.

Now we know the other 4 moves that were made.

The CFL transactions page has Parker, Bighill and Noah Hallett moved to the 6 game injured list and Neufeld was moved to the retired list.

Hopefully Neufeld isnt actually retiring.

Well that's not good. 2 key starters gone to 6 game IR. In theory they could come off early or be gone for the year.

Now we need 3 new starters on the OL although Eli and Dobson probably fill 2 of those.

Noah Hallett must be snake bit and I'd think will never suit up again. I suppose that clears room for someone like Kelly or MacDougall?

On defence there will be 2 new starters on the DL, both CB's and our MLB.

Gives us some SMS relief I suppose but no where to spend it at the moment?

Anyone have details on what and when something happened to these players?
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 15, 2024, 10:46:00 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 15, 2024, 10:21:05 PMWell that's not good. 2 key starters gone to 6 game IR. In theory they could come off early or be gone for the year.

Now we need 3 new starters on the OL although Eli and Dobson probably fill 2 of those.

Noah Hallett must be snake bit and I'd think will never suit up again. I suppose that clears room for someone like Kelly or MacDougall?

On defence there will be 2 new starters on the DL, both CB's and our MLB.

Gives us some SMS relief I suppose but no where to spend it at the moment?

Anyone have details on what and when something happened to these players?

Likely just more maneuvering of the roster to delay making cuts, I wouldn't make anything out of it. Strange they put Neufeld on the retirement list and not the suspended list.  Guaranteed, none of this will ever be explained.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 15, 2024, 10:54:43 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 15, 2024, 10:46:00 PMLikely just more maneuvering of the roster to delay making cuts, I wouldn't make anything out of it. Strange they put Neufeld on the retirement list and not the suspended list.  Guaranteed, none of this will ever be explained.

I've noticed other teams placing players on the 1 game IR. That keeps them on the roster and they get paid.

Putting someone on the 6 game is more of an issue since we can only take 1 off each 1/2 of the season IIRC.

Neufeld on retired or suspended means no pay check. I don't know if he showed up for TC and decided he's done.

However they could have put him on the 1 game IR to continue being paid. That's if he showed up and plans to play in 2024.

At this point I'd think he didn't show up but that's only a guess.  I'd like to think the team knew what his plans were and this didn't just come up?

We need someone that was at practice that could fill us in. Like stretchered off the field for example.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 15, 2024, 11:02:24 PM
I wouldn't worry at all about players going on the 6-game at this point. You can take an unlimited number of players off at any time and you just have to take the SMS hit, which is zero until after week one.

All of those guys could be in the lineup in the season opener and unless we hear of actual major injuries I would assume they'll all play.

We would have had reports already if all of those guys were seriously injured today. Consider the context. 6 cuts and 4 roster moves at the exact moment we needed to trim 10.  We can follow the logic, no?
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 15, 2024, 11:25:12 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 15, 2024, 11:02:24 PMI wouldn't worry at all about players going on the 6-game at this point. You can take an unlimited number of players off at any time and you just have to take the SMS hit, which is zero until after week one.

All of those guys could be in the lineup in the season opener and unless we hear of actual major injuries I would assume they'll all play.

We would have had reports already if all of those guys were seriously injured today. Consider the context. 6 cuts and 4 roster moves at the exact moment we needed to trim 10.  We can follow the logic, no?

You make a good argument, so I hope that is the case. Bighill and Parker don't need to practice. Not sure about the deal with Hallett.  We have some other Canadian DB's fighting for spots and he wasn't exactly a lock for a spot on the AR.

I might be wrong about teams placing others on 1 game IR. Perhaps this is something new in the use of 6 game IR in TC.  We did move Demski and Oliveria to " injured veteran " earlier, so th3se definitions are a little confusing in TC.

Neufeld is another story and it's not clear whether he showed up for TC. If not they probably can't put him on the IR, so it's retire / suspension and no pay check. The pay check is only the TC daily stipend and not game checks.

It is hard to believe that Bighill could have sustained a serious injury and no info.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Jesse on May 16, 2024, 12:33:13 AM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 15, 2024, 11:02:24 PMI wouldn't worry at all about players going on the 6-game at this point. You can take an unlimited number of players off at any time and you just have to take the SMS hit, which is zero until after week one.

All of those guys could be in the lineup in the season opener and unless we hear of actual major injuries I would assume they'll all play.

We would have had reports already if all of those guys were seriously injured today. Consider the context. 6 cuts and 4 roster moves at the exact moment we needed to trim 10.  We can follow the logic, no?

The guys who were 6-gamed are ineligible to return for week 1 (according to Derek Taylor). So these are real injuries.

Neufeld was confirmed as just a roster move.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 16, 2024, 02:54:23 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 15, 2024, 11:25:12 PMYou make a good argument, so I hope that is the case. Bighill and Parker don't need to practice. Not sure about the deal with Hallett.  We have some other Canadian DB's fighting for spots and he wasn't exactly a lock for a spot on the AR.

I might be wrong about teams placing others on 1 game IR. Perhaps this is something new in the use of 6 game IR in TC.  We did move Demski and Oliveria to " injured veteran " earlier, so th3se definitions are a little confusing in TC.

Neufeld is another story and it's not clear whether he showed up for TC. If not they probably can't put him on the IR, so it's retire / suspension and no pay check. The pay check is only the TC daily stipend and not game checks.

It is hard to believe that Bighill could have sustained a serious injury and no info.

Pretty sure Neufeld lives year round in Wpg. now, so unlikely he would be a no-show at TC.  He even attended the CFL Combine a few months ago along with Willie and Lawler as they probably didn't have much else to do.

As for the possibility of injuries, recall how many hold-over injuries the Bombers dealt with at the start of last season from the previous year, some of those players didn't return to form until mid-season.  Note that Bighill did have a late season injury that messed him up through the playoffs, he now claims he's fine but the training staff may want to slow him down.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 16, 2024, 03:35:28 AM
Quote from: Jesse on May 16, 2024, 12:33:13 AMThe guys who were 6-gamed are ineligible to return for week 1 (according to Derek Taylor). So these are real injuries.

Neufeld was confirmed as just a roster move.

Well hell. And there's a bunch of articles now too.

Hallett hasn't played since 2022 so I guess that's no surprise. Parker is a big loss. I suppose Ford is all but pencilled in now at field side. Less concerned about Bighill just because we'll lose out on experience but gain athletically with whoever fills that.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: ModAdmin on May 16, 2024, 04:46:59 AM
Quick Hits | Training Camp — Day 4

"...The Blue Bombers put LB Adam Bighill, CB Jamal Parker and DB Noah Hallett on the six-game injured list today. All three were on the field earlier in camp, but did not finish the practice Tuesday. Asked specifically about Bighill and Parker after practice, Blue Bombers head coach Mike O'Shea said, "we're still gathering information."

As well, the club released the following players to meet Tuesday night's 75-player limit (not including non-counters like draft picks): Canadian LB Jared Beeksma, defensive backs Raleigh Texada and CJ Siegel, RB Ronnie Brown, receiver Ravi Alston and DL John Waggoner...."


A good portion of this article is on Peter Afful, Jr. - his mind set and preparation for the CFL and his opportunity to make the team.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/05/15/quick-hits-training-camp-day-4-3/
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: BomberFan73 on May 16, 2024, 12:34:31 PM
Bighill not being ready could be a blessing in disguise.  If we think about the big picture, we want him healthy at the end of the year.  I could care less if he didn't play until September.  But this allows staff to get a real feel and see players in game situations to really make sure we have the best players sticking around.

Parker being hurt also is not a big deal.  Again, it really allows us to get a good look at those battling for that corner spot.

I'm excited to see who from the bunch step up to claim a spot.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 16, 2024, 01:39:42 PM
I suppose that Moses is the leading candidate to be our MLB in the short term. I suppose there is a chance they move Wilson over but he's a little light IMO for that role. The rookies we have in camp seem to be more suited to WIL or even SAM.

Need some feedback from practice as to who is getting the most reps at MLB and both CB's.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 16, 2024, 03:01:11 PM
Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 16, 2024, 12:34:31 PMBighill not being ready could be a blessing in disguise.  If we think about the big picture, we want him healthy at the end of the year.  I could care less if he didn't play until September.  But this allows staff to get a real feel and see players in game situations to really make sure we have the best players sticking around.

Parker being hurt also is not a big deal.  Again, it really allows us to get a good look at those battling for that corner spot.

I'm excited to see who from the bunch step up to claim a spot.

Poor Parker, he ends up on the IR every time he's ready to step into the corner role, someone else plays well in his absence and he has to wait to get his job back.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 16, 2024, 03:03:10 PM
Love this weather for the forest fires and my grass, but not for practice.

Another greasy day on our new turf. 

I was just asked who Larry Dean is playing for. Sorry, Larry has retired .

Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 16, 2024, 03:23:51 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 16, 2024, 01:39:42 PMI suppose that Moses is the leading candidate to be our MLB in the short term. I suppose there is a chance they move Wilson over but he's a little light IMO for that role. The rookies we have in camp seem to be more suited to WIL or even SAM.

Need some feedback from practice as to who is getting the most reps at MLB and both CB's.

As Danny McManus explained in his recent interview with Ed Tait, the biggest hurdle for a newcomer attempting to win a job at LB is the learning curve.  The candidate must have a high football IQ and understand fully what is happening on every play and be able to communicate that info. quickly. It's a tough role for any newcomer to  step into, hopefully they keep one of these rookies around on the PR to learn the position throughout the year so they're prepared to step up next season.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: kkc60 on May 16, 2024, 03:41:13 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 16, 2024, 03:23:51 PMAs Danny McManus explained in his recent interview with Ed Tait, the biggest hurdle for a newcomer attempting to win a job at LB is the learning curve.  The candidate must have a high football IQ and understand fully what is happening on every play and be able to communicate that info. quickly. It's a tough role for any newcomer to  step into, hopefully they keep one of these rookies around on the PR to learn the role throughout the year so they're prepared to step up next season.
It's gonna be an interesting competition. Some guys have pretty good college resumés as MLBs (one can only assume whether they quarterbacked the defence). Looking forward to seeing who comes out of this competition on top. 1 starter and one DI is the direction I would assume they'd go.

Unrelated, but would Brian Cole be eligible for the "nationalized american" label? I think that's what it's called. If so, could that explain his move to SAM?
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 16, 2024, 03:58:34 PM
Quote from: kkc60 on May 16, 2024, 03:41:13 PMIt's gonna be an interesting competition. Some guys have pretty good college resumés as MLBs (one can only assume whether they quarterbacked the defence). Looking forward to seeing who comes out of this competition on top. 1 starter and one DI is the direction I would assume they'd go.

Unrelated, but would Brian Cole be eligible for the "nationalized american" label? I think that's what it's called. If so, could that explain his move to SAM?

I think the " nationalized american " has to have been with a team for 3 years or the CFL? This would be only his 3rd year this season. So no I don't think he'd be eligible. I think Cole is just getting more of an opportunity to be a back up at different positions. Bombers do that with many players. Versatility.

OTOH I haven't figured out what this designation purpose / value is and in 2023 I didn't see "that " player noted in the depth chart.

Bombers have several players that could technically qualify: Alexander, Nichols, Bryant, Castillo, Bighill, Wilson to name a few.

The CFL has too many different designations and exceptions IMO. I've lost track of where they are going or trying to accomplish.



Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 16, 2024, 09:37:21 PM
According to O'Shea Bighill and Parker's injuries are real, sounds like Parker may be gone for an extended time, so something major must have happened on the field.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: ModAdmin on May 17, 2024, 01:02:48 AM
Quick Hits | Training Camp – Day 5

"...The big news in Bomberland broke Wednesday afternoon when the CFL transaction wire revealed the club had moved linebacker Adam Bighill, cornerback Jamal Parker and defensive back Noah Hallett to the six-game injured list.

All three injuries impact the club in various ways, but the loss of Bighill — a future Canadian Football Hall of Famer, a leader and the quarterback of the defence — could be significant.

"I don't know that he'll be on the full six (games) — it's just one of those things you have to do to manage the business properly," said head coach Mike O'Shea after Thursday's practice. "I'm hopeful it won't be the full six, but we'll see. We have a bunch of guys in camp competing because we have spots available. Obviously, Kyrie Wilson and Shayne (Gauthier) — guys we've had in our building for a long time — can play that spot...."


https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/05/16/quick-hits-training-camp-day-5-3/
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: kkc60 on May 17, 2024, 01:07:21 AM
Quote from: ModAdmin on May 17, 2024, 01:02:48 AMQuick Hits | Training Camp – Day 5

"...The big news in Bomberland broke Wednesday afternoon when the CFL transaction wire revealed the club had moved linebacker Adam Bighill, cornerback Jamal Parker and defensive back Noah Hallett to the six-game injured list.

All three injuries impact the club in various ways, but the loss of Bighill — a future Canadian Football Hall of Famer, a leader and the quarterback of the defence — could be significant.

"I don't know that he'll be on the full six (games) — it's just one of those things you have to do to manage the business properly," said head coach Mike O'Shea after Thursday's practice. "I'm hopeful it won't be the full six, but we'll see. We have a bunch of guys in camp competing because we have spots available. Obviously, Kyrie Wilson and Shayne (Gauthier) — guys we've had in our building for a long time — can play that spot...."


https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/05/16/quick-hits-training-camp-day-5-3/

not very promising if the first options seem to be Wilson out of position or Gauthier
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: CrazyCanuck89 on May 17, 2024, 01:44:23 AM
Quote from: kkc60 on May 17, 2024, 01:07:21 AMnot very promising if the first options seem to be Wilson out of position or Gauthier
Nothing wrong with Gauthier.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 17, 2024, 02:06:10 AM
Quote from: CrazyCanuck89 on May 17, 2024, 01:44:23 AMNothing wrong with Gauthier.

Nothing wrong with Wilson either!
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: ichabod_crane on May 17, 2024, 07:02:36 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 15, 2024, 10:54:43 PMI've noticed other teams placing players on the 1 game IR. That keeps them on the roster and they get paid.

Putting someone on the 6 game is more of an issue since we can only take 1 off each 1/2 of the season IIRC.

Neufeld on retired or suspended means no pay check. I don't know if he showed up for TC and decided he's done.

However they could have put him on the 1 game IR to continue being paid. That's if he showed up and plans to play in 2024.

At this point I'd think he didn't show up but that's only a guess.  I'd like to think the team knew what his plans were and this didn't just come up?

We need someone that was at practice that could fill us in. Like stretchered off the field for example.


Did Neufeld not extend for another year back in December or earlier this year? Something a bit odd of him retiring at the very start of camp. I'm thinking he wants to avoid training camp at his age!! :)
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: ichabod_crane on May 17, 2024, 07:08:30 AM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 17, 2024, 02:06:10 AMNothing wrong with Wilson either!

Need Wilson's speed outside, not in the middle. MLB should be more focused on run stopping and sort of the QB of the defence. Pass coverage a bonus.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 17, 2024, 01:21:05 PM
I'm not encouraged with Bighill this year. I think we see him struggle with nagging injuries all year and play drop off IMO.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Bomber Diehard on May 17, 2024, 01:55:12 PM
I agree Bighill better days are behind him.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Downtown Mikester on May 17, 2024, 02:12:33 PM
There is no question that Adam Bighill is a first ballot Hall of Famer. But there's also no question that his best days are behind him. He's been on the downswing these last few years, and is no longer an impact player.

You can talk all you want about leadership and experience, but the body has to be able to perform. We all saw what having an impact MLB will do for your team watching Montreal in last year's playoffs (Darnell Sankey). The Bombers' loyalty is admirable, but they should have been seriously seeking out an impact replacement in the middle these last couple of years.

MLB is far too important a position to keep hoping you'll get one more season out of an aging veteran, even if that veteran is Adam Bighill.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 17, 2024, 02:59:13 PM
Finally a morning without rain. A little warmer and the sun is out, the boys seem to have a little more energy this morning.

Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: theaardvark on May 17, 2024, 03:30:16 PM
Not sure the vibe I'm getting.  Can't put the finger on any one thing, but the loss of some voices in the room, Biggie's injury, Neufeld's "retirement", handing the D to Younger...

There seems to me to be a little more uncertainty.  The O looks stacked, for sure, and ST's seem to have gotten some really good new players, the D definately has some interesting prospects, but I'm just not feeling it yet.

Is it the 2 lost cups?  Maybe.  I really don't know, and I hope its nothing.  Still think we are going to lead the league in most ways, but something feels off.  Maybe it was the "Too Good To Go" breakfast today.  Hope so.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 17, 2024, 04:13:00 PM
Quote from: theaardvark on May 17, 2024, 03:30:16 PMNot sure the vibe I'm getting.  Can't put the finger on any one thing, but the loss of some voices in the room, Biggie's injury, Neufeld's "retirement", handing the D to Younger...

There seems to me to be a little more uncertainty.  The O looks stacked, for sure, and ST's seem to have gotten some really good new players, the D definately has some interesting prospects, but I'm just not feeling it yet.

Is it the 2 lost cups?  Maybe.  I really don't know, and I hope its nothing.  Still think we are going to lead the league in most ways, but something feels off.  Maybe it was the "Too Good To Go" breakfast today.  Hope so.

This was always going to be a bit of a reload year. They'll still be good, we can easily win it all, but there's more problems to be solved than past years and if you ask me they're looking a bit more ahead than usual, which makes sense considering GC2025.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 17, 2024, 04:38:25 PM
Quote from: Downtown Mikester on May 17, 2024, 02:12:33 PMThere is no question that Adam Bighill is a first ballot Hall of Famer. But there's also no question that his best days are behind him. He's been on the downswing these last few years, and is no longer an impact player.

You can talk all you want about leadership and experience, but the body has to be able to perform. We all saw what having an impact MLB will do for your team watching Montreal in last year's playoffs (Darnell Sankey). The Bombers' loyalty is admirable, but they should have been seriously seeking out an impact replacement in the middle these last couple of years.

MLB is far too important a position to keep hoping you'll get one more season out of an aging veteran, even if that veteran is Adam Bighill.

As long as they find Bighill's future replacement and have him in house getting some game reps. this season I'm not too worried, who knows it might even be Max Charbonneau a Natl.  Biggie's physical impact may have decreased somewhat but he's far from being a liability on the field, his intelligence and hard work still make him a key leader on the team.

Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 17, 2024, 04:57:14 PM
Quote from: Downtown Mikester on May 17, 2024, 02:12:33 PMThe Bombers' loyalty is admirable, but they should have been seriously seeking out an impact replacement in the middle these last couple of years.

Who should they have targeted to replace Bighill? LBs of that calibre don't just fall into one's lap.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Downtown Mikester on May 17, 2024, 05:03:49 PM
Last season, I would have honestly gone hard after Sankey once he became available. And I'm not just saying this in retrospect.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 17, 2024, 05:08:18 PM
Quote from: Downtown Mikester on May 17, 2024, 05:03:49 PMLast season, I would have honestly gone hard after Sankey once he became available. And I'm not just saying this in retrospect.

Are you sure about that? Bighill only missed one game last season.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 17, 2024, 05:23:56 PM
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 17, 2024, 05:08:18 PMAre you sure about that? Bighill only missed one game last season.

I wanted to acquire Sankey when he became available. IMO he would have been an upgrade to our depth, regardless of an injury issue at the time.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: bwiser on May 17, 2024, 05:49:18 PM
There is much more change on this years team.The last few seasons the changes have been minimal. This had to happen with a team that is aging.The Bombers may not start the season as strong as they usually do but its not how you start its how you finish and I think the team will be stronger as the season unfolds.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 17, 2024, 05:56:34 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 17, 2024, 05:23:56 PMI wanted to acquire Sankey when he became available. IMO he would have been an upgrade to our depth, regardless of an injury issue at the time.

I'm sure I said the same thing, which is a far cry from "going hard" after him. From a SMS standpoint, I don't think it was realistic at the time.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: gobombersgo on May 17, 2024, 06:57:52 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 15, 2024, 10:54:43 PMI've noticed other teams placing players on the 1 game IR. That keeps them on the roster and they get paid.

Putting someone on the 6 game is more of an issue since we can only take 1 off each 1/2 of the season IIRC.

This is incorrect. The rules changed when the CFL went from a 9 game to a 6 game injured list.

Teams can remove an unlimited number of players from the 6 game list. However, it would mean the player's salary for any games they were on the injured list would count againt the cap.

Also, teams are allowed to remove 2 players early from being on the 6 game list for 7 games or more with no salary counting towards the cap.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: theaardvark on May 17, 2024, 07:53:08 PM
One issue is I beleive Biggie's current contract includes guaranteed money. That's cap hit regardless IR status.  So we could not afford to bring in Sankey even if we hid Biggie on the IR.  We were already over the cap.

I wish the timing had allowed fort that transition too, Sankey seems to be a perfect fit.  But there will be another Sankey, or Bighill, so long as he's better than Hurl... I think we will be fine... and who know what kind of MLB fits Younger's vision of the team, maybe we are looking for a faster, lighter MIKE, more of a WIL...
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 17, 2024, 07:59:39 PM
Noah Hallett back on the 6-game IR, again.  He's never panned out, it may be time to part ways and let another Natl. fill that roster spot.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 17, 2024, 08:03:28 PM
Quote from: theaardvark on May 17, 2024, 07:53:08 PMOne issue is I beleive Biggie's current contract includes guaranteed money. That's cap hit regardless IR status.  So we could not afford to bring in Sankey even if we hid Biggie on the IR.  We were already over the cap.

I wish the timing had allowed fort that transition too, Sankey seems to be a perfect fit.  But there will be another Sankey, or Bighill, so long as he's better than Hurl... I think we will be fine... and who know what kind of MLB fits Younger's vision of the team, maybe we are looking for a faster, lighter MIKE, more of a WIL...

I don't recall Biggie getting any guaranteed money, as far as I know only a few QB's league wide have received that bonus, some regrettably. I believe Taylor Cornelius is still a FA.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: theaardvark on May 17, 2024, 08:07:49 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 17, 2024, 08:03:28 PMI don't recall Biggie getting any guaranteed money, as far as I know only a few QB's league wide have received that bonus, some regrettably. I believe Taylor Cornelius is still a FA.

https://3downnation.com/2022/11/30/adam-bighill-plans-to-play-out-two-year-extension-with-blue-bombers-after-signing-partially-guaranteed-contract/

https://www.cfl.ca/2022/11/30/bighill-returns-to-winnipeg-with-unfinished-business/

https://globalnews.ca/news/9311633/bombers-bighill-contract-extension/

Pretty sure this last year is partially guaranteed.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: gobombersgo on May 17, 2024, 08:11:50 PM
Biggie has 15% of his salary guaranteed.

Only benefit for Biggie is he would have been owed 25k if the Bombers cut him in the off-season.

If the Bombers plan on cutting now they would just keep him on the 6 game then cut him.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Jesse on May 17, 2024, 08:40:16 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 17, 2024, 05:23:56 PMI wanted to acquire Sankey when he became available. IMO he would have been an upgrade to our depth, regardless of an injury issue at the time.

Perhaps Sankey didn't have interest in joining us with Bighill on the roster?
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 17, 2024, 10:12:52 PM
Quote from: Jesse on May 17, 2024, 08:40:16 PMPerhaps Sankey didn't have interest in joining us with Bighill on the roster?

IIRC we were told that the team had no interest. That may have been an SMS issue or " fit " issue. Water under the bridge now.

It does appear that we've brought more LB's to TC this year. We will see a new starter for awhile. Whether that's a current LB and a rookie as a DI, we'll see.

In any case, we have room to replace Clements and I'd think 1 on the PR as well.

Our 1st pre-season is Monday so let's see if anyone stands out.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: ModAdmin on May 17, 2024, 11:31:38 PM
Quick Hits | Training Camp — Day 6
Ed Tait
@EdTaitWFC

Notes and quotes from Friday's Blue Bombers practice...

From Nigeria with joy: Every single player in training camp has a road travelled story, some featuring more stops and twists and turns than others. They are stories of perseverance, of dedication and of passion for the game.

And then there is the tale of Chidi Okeke, the 6-6, 307-pound offensive tackle whose football resumé features two university and seven pro stops on this long and winding road which has now brought him to the Blue Bombers door.

Born in Anambra, Nigeria, Okeke was first spotted at a sports camp in his home country run by the Ejike Ugboaja Foundation. A few days later a call came from the camp organizers.

"They called me back a couple days later and said, 'Hey, we've got a scholarship for you in America. Are you ready to move?' Honestly, I thought it was a joke at first," Okeke explained in a chat with bluebombers.com this week. "I was 16. And so I flew from Nigeria to Florida by myself to go to school. It was a big culture shock at first but I love sports. I love playing sports. I missed my family all the time but for the love of sports I talked to them all the time on the phone to keep myself going. But it was pretty tough at the beginning.

"I was a basketball player then. And as soon as I came to America and saw football, I switched. I had always watched the football movies like 'The Blind Side'. I like that story because I could relate with what that guy (Michael Oher) went through. But I had never put on a football helmet before because I had only seen it on TV or in the movies. The first time I saw a helmet I was like, 'Wow, this is real.' Once I switched to football from basketball I thought, 'I'm not looking back.'"

The game may have been new to him, yet Okeke took to his new sport quickly and was ranked the second-best offensive tackle in the U.S. coming out of high school. He had offers from Auburn and Alabama and settled on LSU, transferring to Tennessee State after two years. Undrafted in the NFL, he first signed with Washington and has since had looks from Kansas City, Miami and Tampa in the NFL, as well as starting games with the Pittsburgh Maulers (USFL) and San Antonio Brahmas and was most recently with the DC Defenders of the UFL before his release in March.

The Blue Bombers were on the phone not too long after and, in a snapshot of his dedication to landing a gig anywhere in football, drove his car from Dallas — where he had been in UFL camp — 21 hours straight back to California to then hop on a plane to Winnipeg.

"Football has given me everything I own today," he explained. "I take football serious and so once I got the phone call it was like, 'OK, I'm going to do this job.' That's why I drove 21 hours. It's been pretty great since I got here, man. Football is always football. I was thinking it was going to be different, but I see a lot of guys I know from back in the States so it feels... normal. I'm having fun.

"I've always been trying to grind through each opportunity and show people what I can do. I'm so happy to be here. This is my first time in Canada. Winnipeg is a great organization in the CFL. Everybody knows of Winnipeg and so I'm pleased to be here."

Okeke lost his father in 2004 and his mom two years ago. The youngest of nine, his family remains in Nigeria while he is halfway across the globe still chasing his dream. Polite and respectful, he seems to start every sentence with a smile and end every conversation with a thank-you. Asked about the source of his obvious joy, Okeke grins.

"I came from nothing, man. I'm from a small village in Nigeria. A small, tiny town," he said. "I'm a country boy who used to go to the farm to feed the animals, feed the goats. I grew up in that environment, so I wasn't a city boy at all. To find myself in this situation, to be playing ball in America — in Canada now — sometimes I still remember and think, 'It just seems like yesterday I was running around barefoot playing soccer.' Now I've played games in the NFL, XFL.

"I'm happy. I have to stay happy."

FYI: SB Nic Demski, who hasn't practised yet in camp, was spotted running in the end zone during Friday's session. Head coach Mike O'Shea: "he's getting closer (to a return) all the time." He also indicated Demski and RB Brady Oliveira, who also hasn't participated yet, don't need a ton of work before the season opener. "They know what they're doing. They're both pretty good."

Making a case: Receiver Kody Case is one of many new pass catchers trying to step up and make an impression in the fight to replace Rasheed Bailey in the Blue Bombers starting lineup. Case spent the preseason last year with the Indianapolis Colts after spending 2017-21 at South Dakota and the 2022 season at Illinois. And in his freshman year at South Dakota his QB was.... Chris Streveler.

Kody Case

"He's been a great mentor," said Case of Streveler after practice Friday. "Any time I need help with anything he'll be right there and then always giving me encouragement. You guys all know Strev — he's a legend around here, he's a legend in South Dakota. He's just the greatest team player. He just elevates everyone's game around him. It's great playing with him. He's just the best teammate you could ever have. He builds relationships with everyone and he'll always have your back. You'd see him working all the time perfecting his craft; after practice he'd always got throws in and he really just takes all the young guys and elevates their game."

Next:
Saturday's practice is the last before Monday's preseason game in Regina. The session runs from 8:30 a.m. -11:15 a.m. at Princess Auto Stadium and is open to the public.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/05/17/quick-hits-training-camp-day-6-3/
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blueforlife on May 18, 2024, 12:37:04 AM
I am worried about Biggie too but don't write him off yet.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 18, 2024, 04:47:07 AM
DS83 has sat out the last couple of days of practice.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 18, 2024, 05:48:50 AM
Bonfire Sports interviews with Tyrell Ford and Deatrick Nichols.


Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 18, 2024, 02:02:24 PM
Maybe I missed a memo but it looks like Zach is taking a maintenance day today. He's here and walking around, but not dressed. Maybe today's practice is all about getting the players who are playing in Regina ready to go?
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 18, 2024, 02:35:07 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 18, 2024, 02:02:24 PMMaybe I missed a memo but it looks like Zach is taking a maintenance day today. He's here and walking around, but not dressed. Maybe today's practice is all about getting the players who are playing in Regina ready to go?

Might be partly a maintenance aspect. However I think it's as much about preparing the QB's that will play on Monday. ZC will probably be there but I doubt he'll even dress. More of a coaching helpful on the sidelines for the rookies.

Will be interesting to see how much playing time Streveler gets. That said, he's a lock to make the AR so he may not see the field much if at all?
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: BomberFan73 on May 18, 2024, 02:43:31 PM
Speaking of QBs, it had seemed that Barriere had a leg up on Wilson as the #3 before they stepped on the field.
But reading some reports, it seems Wilson has looked better so far in camp. It'll be interesting to see who can run the O better on Monday. 
That and I'm looking forward to Strev busting a big run  ;D
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 18, 2024, 03:27:18 PM
Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 18, 2024, 02:43:31 PMSpeaking of QBs, it had seemed that Barriere had a leg up on Wilson as the #3 before they stepped on the field.
But reading some reports, it seems Wilson has looked better so far in camp. It'll be interesting to see who can run the O better on Monday. 
That and I'm looking forward to Strev busting a big run  ;D

I hope they judge the rookie QB's by over all skill potential and not just 3rd down sneak ability, with the departure of Dru Brown they have to start over finding the QB that will take over when Zach retires, and I don't think it will be Streveler.  It would be a pity to cut one of these young QB's only to see them find success with another team.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: BomberFan73 on May 18, 2024, 03:30:04 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 18, 2024, 03:27:18 PMI hope they judge the rookie QB's by over all skill potential and not just 3rd down sneak ability, with the departure of Dru Brown they have to start over finding the QB that will take over when Zach retires, and I don't think it will be Streveler.  It would be a pity to cut one of these young QB's only to see them find success with another team.
Agree, we need to find the next best QB period. But I think Strev will be that shortyardage guy anyways, so the need for that in a #3 this year should be less of a factor.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 18, 2024, 03:30:23 PM
Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 18, 2024, 02:43:31 PMSpeaking of QBs, it had seemed that Barriere had a leg up on Wilson as the #3 before they stepped on the field.
But reading some reports, it seems Wilson has looked better so far in camp. It'll be interesting to see who can run the O better on Monday. 
That and I'm looking forward to Strev busting a big run  ;D

I took in a few practice this week. These guys are pretty close. Wilson is a little taller, and seems to have more speed. Arm strength and accuracy is pretty close. It will come down to who is more prepare and what they do on Monday. Two weeks of TC, and 1 or 2 quarters of football is a small window to impress and make a team. But, from what I saw, Wilson has look slightly better.

 
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: BomberFan73 on May 18, 2024, 03:31:54 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 18, 2024, 03:21:22 PMA few thought Hill looked good in early days but there were 12 other rookie import receivers in camp.


We have made the following transactions:
Added to roster:
🇺🇸 Josh Vann (WR)
🇺🇸  Michael Griffin (DB)
Released from roster:
🇺🇸 KJ Hill (WR)
🇺🇸 Marcus Hillman (DB)

Well that kinda sucks.  Both Hill& Hillman were highly regarded.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 18, 2024, 03:33:35 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 18, 2024, 03:21:22 PMA few thought Hill looked good in early days but there were 12 other rookie import receivers in camp.


We have made the following transactions:
Added to roster:
🇺🇸 Josh Vann (WR)
🇺🇸  Michael Griffin (DB)
Released from roster:
🇺🇸 KJ Hill (WR)
🇺🇸 Marcus Hillman (DB)

I didn't think Hill or Johnson looked good, to many dropped balls.

For me it's been Case and Wilson. Both have speed and seem to catch everything.

BDs:  McCarthy, McGhee, and Norman.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: BomberFan73 on May 18, 2024, 03:34:10 PM
Quote from: Pigskin on May 18, 2024, 03:30:23 PMI took in a few practice this week. These guys are pretty close. Wilson is a little taller, and seems to have more speed. Arm strength and accuracy is pretty close. It will come down to who is more prepare and what they do on Monday. Two weeks of TC, and 1 or 2 quarters of football is a small window to impress and make a team. But, from what I saw, Wilson has look slightly better.

 

I hope they each get a good bit of time on Monday, because they won't get much in game #2
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 18, 2024, 03:45:40 PM
Griffin, another South Dakota kid with pretty decent size.  At 5'11" 210, 4.52/ 40 , could this be the backup for Kramdi.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 18, 2024, 05:12:01 PM
Quote from: Pigskin on May 18, 2024, 03:45:40 PMGriffin, another South Dakota kid with pretty decent size.  At 5'11" 210, 4.52/ 40 , could this be the backup for Kramdi.


Building a solid player connection with South Dakota schools, is not a bad thing.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 18, 2024, 06:04:10 PM
It's a great thing. Brady, and Holm, North Dakota. Griffin, Case, Strev17. South Dakota. Now we have the Dakota Boys and the Oak Park Boys. 
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: BomberFan73 on May 18, 2024, 06:54:45 PM
Quote from: Pigskin on May 18, 2024, 06:04:10 PMIt's a great thing. Brady, and Holm, North Dakota. Griffin, Case, Strev17. South Dakota. Now we have the Dakota Boys and the Oak Park Boys. 

Sounds like rival posses in a Western  ;D
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Jesse on May 18, 2024, 09:04:54 PM
Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 18, 2024, 03:30:04 PMAgree, we need to find the next best QB period. But I think Strev will be that shortyardage guy anyways, so the need for that in a #3 this year should be less of a factor.

Absolutely. Third down/sneaks should not be a part of the #3 QB decision at all. Purely developmental spot.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 18, 2024, 09:13:10 PM
Anyone head down there today and get some free pancakes?
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: ModAdmin on May 18, 2024, 10:36:53 PM
May 18, 2024
48-Hour Primer
Defensive tackle Miles Fox --

Quick Hits from Day 7 of Blue Bombers camp leading up to Monday's preseason game in Regina against the Saskatchewan Roughriders...

B-E-L-I-E-V-E: Miles Fox had every reason to arrive in Blue Bombers camp a confident man. A solid dude with shoulders as wide as Pembina Highway, Fox parachuted into Winnipeg a year ago after being released by the B.C. Lions and spent most of the year on the practice roster — he did dress for two games — while trying to get a feel for his new surroundings.

Still, in the wide and wacky world of pro football a guy learns to never takes anything for granted. And so while Fox came into training camp as the leading contender to fill the defensive tackle spot left vacant after the departure of Ricky Walker, he also knew he had to keep his head down and grind, grind, grind.

"Sometimes I overthink things a lot," Walker said. "Before the season I was like, 'I'm just so nervous. S-o-o nervous.' And then after conversations with a couple people I was told that I don't need to be anything more than just me. Just go out and do the things I'm good at because every player on this defence is a piece of the puzzle. Everyone brings their own talent and their own unique ability and as long as I bring mine and know what I'm doing, everything should fit together perfectly."

A starter during his college days at Old Dominion and Wake Forest, Fox was in a mini-camp with the Buffalo Bills in 2022 before coming north to the B.C. Lions later that year. Cut by the Lions last season, he was en route to Winnipeg not long after.
Jake Kelly and Miles Fox from Saturday's practice

Jake Kelly and Miles Fox from Saturday's practice

"When I first got here Osh (head coach Mike O'Shea) walked up to me and told me a couple things he wanted me to improve on my game and I took that seriously," Fox said. "Ever since then, being the new guy you always want to prove yourself. You come into a new environment and you don't know what to expect. There's a new culture you have to adapt to and earn your way. That's what I tried to do every day and just be my best, work hard and show everybody I was a worker.

"They've won a lot of football games here, won a couple Grey Cups and so if they believe in me that I can be the man for the job, how can I not have confidence in myself? I'm just so excited to be here and do what I do."

That's the word — 'confident' — Fox used to describe the first week of his 2024 training camp with the Blue Bombers. Comfortability matters, as does familiarity. And having a starting job there for the taking can be a big motivator. Helping fuel all that is that sense of belief he's received from almost everyone around him.

"Having my teammates believe in me, having my coaches believe in me just gives me so much confidence," he said. "I'm going out every day feeling confident in myself, knowing what I'm doing, knowing that I can do it at a high level. It's fun to go out there and battle with my guys. I'm learning from Willie (Jefferson) every play, from (Adam) Bighill sitting behind me quizzing me in the meetings saying, 'Why'd you do this? What are you seeing here?' so I can know the concept behind it. It's really benefitted me a lot.

"I've waited for this opportunity for a long time... in any league. Being cut from B.C., obviously in the moment it really hurt, but I feel like God brought me to a better situation for me and I just thank him every day for that. Hearing from the coaches I have a chance to earn this spot, it means the world and it motivates me every single day to get out here and do my best.

"As soon as I got that call I knew I wanted to come here. It was Sask first (who called him) and then Winnipeg and I was, 'Oh yeah, I'm going to Winnipeg.'"

A preseason playbook: O'Shea spoke after practice about Monday's game in Regina and what he and the coaching staff, as well as the football management team, might be watching.

"Winning's always good. Regardless of the outcome of the game we're going to learn from it," he said. "What you want to see is the guys have a good understanding of how they need to play the game. You need to see them take all the reps they've had in training camp and apply it out there on the field. They're not going to be mistake-free, but you want to see guys play hard even through mistakes and not think as much and see how much they know their stuff.

"There's going to be so much information to digest after this game... I don't even know if we're going to be able to list all the stuff you would see. Some of the stuff isn't even on a list and you just notice the way a play unfolds and you go, 'Ahh, that's interesting' and you mark it down. Certainly in this one you want to see guys play the game the way it should be played. There's going to be mistakes, there always is. And if we limit them, we'll be happier than if we make a bunch of them. We all understand the framework of what we're dealing with here."

Ultimately, Monday — and the preseason finale on May 31 vs. Calgary — is about guys fighting for jobs.

Mike O'Shea


"And as coaches we cannot take that lightly," he said. "We've got to make sure they're fresh enough to play, have a good handle on what's going to be called – what they're being asked to do – and don't over-tax them in that regard. Like I said earlier in the week, we're not trying to smash them with stuff and see who comes out. We want to this one to be they feel good, they feel comfortable, and they can show us what they can do. I don't know why we would eliminate guys just by overloading them for the sake of over-loading them. I don't know if that makes sense.

"Let's see what they can do out there so we put them in spots with things they can do and not miss on a guy."

FYI:
O'Shea and his staff were still finalizing their roster for Monday's preseason game Saturday afternoon, but he did confirm Zach Collaros would not be making the trip. Chris Streveler, Terry Wilson and Eric Barriere handled the bulk of the work during Saturday's practice, with Collaros getting some throws in and then watching the rest of the session... Players who have yet to practice SB Nic Demski, RB Brady Oliveira and S Brandon Alexander... O'Shea on what attracted the club to offensive tackle Eric Lofton — the former Bomber who started 14 games at right tackle for the Riders last year — in free agency: "He's been there and done it. That kind of experience in our game, understanding how to play that edge and widen it, how defences attack you... look at our team — we love experience. So when we go to free agency we're often looking at guys that have experience."

Comings/goings:
The Blue Bombers added two and released two on Saturday, bringing aboard receiver Josh Vann (5-10, 190, South Carolina) and defensive back Michael Griffin (5-11, 210, South Dakota State). Released were receiver K.J. Hill and defensive back Marcus Hillman. O'Shea on Hill, who arrived in camp with a bit of hype as the all-time leading receiver at Ohio State: "His body just wasn't responding."

Next:
The Blue Bombers travel to Regina on Sunday before Monday's first preseason game against the Saskatchewan Roughriders on Victoria Day Monday, with the kickoff at 3 p.m. CDT.

Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: gobombersgo on May 18, 2024, 10:54:11 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 18, 2024, 03:27:18 PMI hope they judge the rookie QB's by over all skill potential and not just 3rd down sneak ability, with the departure of Dru Brown they have to start over finding the QB that will take over when Zach retires, and I don't think it will be Streveler.  It would be a pity to cut one of these young QB's only to see them find success with another team.

Meh,teams cant gaurentee QBs will even stick around once they are ready to take over the starter job.

Exibit A; Dru Brown.

Most QBs dont stay with the team that developed them. Guys like Bo Levi are the exception.

Just hope the 3rd QB is serviceable and is not a liability when called upon. Next year is next year.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 19, 2024, 12:31:16 AM
I've been a bit busy but here's my training camp observations today:

A great day for defense or a bad day for offense. Chris Streveler really strugged throwing the ball. I counted four interceptions from him alone. Ford got one. McGee had another. I suppose it's to be expected reintegrating into a CFL offense. Mechanically he's better than when he left but there's no sugar coating how bad he was today. It was not good.

Chris Smith looked great for an import running back. Fast (which we knew) but he plays fast too. He dominated his reps in his one on ones. Two long TDs and he seemingly can really catch. If he looks like that in games he's going to be hard to cut.

Ford took a ton of reps at field corner and Terrell Bonds took a ton of boundary corner snaps.

Dobson was snapping and was pretty inconsistent with it too.

Jordan Younger quite an animated coach who I think the players respond too.

Both third string hopefuls took turns making a few plays and struggling too. Terry Wilson a bit better with his legs. Barriere ran a bit too but was better from the pocket.

Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: ichabod_crane on May 19, 2024, 05:30:55 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 17, 2024, 10:12:52 PMIIRC we were told that the team had no interest. That may have been an SMS issue or " fit " issue. Water under the bridge now.

It does appear that we've brought more LB's to TC this year. We will see a new starter for awhile. Whether that's a current LB and a rookie as a DI, we'll see.

In any case, we have room to replace Clements and I'd think 1 on the PR as well.

Our 1st pre-season is Monday so let's see if anyone stands out.

I see on the CFL transaction wire that Clements RETIRED from Toronto last month for some reason? Or more roster game playing as he just signed a contract there after bailing on the Bombers or they could not agree on terms.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: gobombersgo on May 19, 2024, 06:50:43 AM
Quote from: ichabod_crane on May 19, 2024, 05:30:55 AMI see on the CFL transaction wire that Clements RETIRED from Toronto last month for some reason? Or more roster game playing as he just signed a contract there after bailing on the Bombers or they could not agree on terms.

It was only May 12th that Clements was transferred to retired so that was the start of camp.

I see absolutely no reports on-line on what's going on. Maybe he just didnt show up.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Jesse on May 19, 2024, 12:17:41 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 19, 2024, 12:31:16 AMI've been a bit busy but here's my training camp observations today:

A great day for defense or a bad day for offense. Chris Streveler really strugged throwing the ball. I counted four interceptions from him alone. Ford got one. McGee had another. I suppose it's to be expected reintegrating into a CFL offense. Mechanically he's better than when he left but there's no sugar coating how bad he was today. It was not good.

Chris Smith looked great for an import running back. Fast (which we knew) but he plays fast too. He dominated his reps in his one on ones. Two long TDs and he seemingly can really catch. If he looks like that in games he's a lock to make the team.

Ford took a ton of reps at field corner and Terrell Bonds took a ton of boundary corner snaps.

Dobson was snapping and was pretty inconsistent with it too.

Jordan Younger quite an animated coach who I think the players respond too.

Both third string hopefuls took turns making a few plays and struggling too. Terry Wilson a bit better with his legs. Barriere ran a bit too but was better from the pocket.



Thanks SBaG!
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blueforlife on May 19, 2024, 01:38:59 PM
Quote from: gobombersgo on May 18, 2024, 10:54:11 PMMeh,teams cant gaurentee QBs will even stick around once they are ready to take over the starter job.

Exibit A; Dru Brown.

Most QBs dont stay with the team that developed them. Guys like Bo Levi are the exception.

Just hope the 3rd QB is serviceable and is not a liability when called upon. Next year is next year.
Disagree with most of what you have said.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: BomberFan73 on May 19, 2024, 01:59:08 PM
Quote from: Blueforlife on May 19, 2024, 01:38:59 PMDisagree with most of what you have said.

All depends on what your definition of a #2 or #3 is
Past couple seasons Dru Brown was actually the #2, and the vet shortdown guy was #3.  If Zac went down, it was Brown to take over.

This year I think we'll see Strev get a fair bit of playing time plus shortyardage.  The #3 guy will be purely developmental.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 19, 2024, 02:57:59 PM
For what's it's worth, Neufeld is still showing on the Bombers roster. Hopefully that does mean he'll be activated from the retired list before the end of TC.  As some have speculated this was only a roster management issue.

Are we going to get a depth chart for tomorrow's game? Preseason games and roster decisions are deceiving.

I won't be surprised to see many players that are 2nd 3rd or 4th on the depth chart playing early. The ones currently projected as the new starters may not get the bulk of the reps until the 2nd game.

So that current assumption is that Fox, Haba, Moses, McGhee, Ford are the 1st string players on defense. On offence Lofton, Case or Afful might be the leading candidates at the moment.

There are so many players on both sides of the ball fighting for some version making the roster. I think there are 13 import rookie receivers and about 10 DB's.

Probably nobody gets many reps and players will be rotating in every series.

Don't make a mistake. Make an impression.

Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blueforlife on May 19, 2024, 05:29:58 PM
Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 19, 2024, 01:59:08 PMAll depends on what your definition of a #2 or #3 is
Past couple seasons Dru Brown was actually the #2, and the vet shortdown guy was #3.  If Zac went down, it was Brown to take over.

This year I think we'll see Strev get a fair bit of playing time plus shortyardage.  The #3 guy will be purely developmental.
Agree, my disagreement was about the need to develop a 3rd stringer in the hope they stick around which is critical for our long term success.  If we can develop another QB like we did Brown there is a chance we can get a discount at the position in the future rather than having to spend big bucks on a free agent.  That said having a situation like we did with Brown repeating itself is a low chance but should be an organizational priority, imo.  I rarely think about one year; this organization's success is largely a result of continuity, strategic planning, development of a strong core and team culture.  Previous to our recent run of dominance it was revolving door of players, coaches and management.  I hope we can continue to develop our dynasty.  Patience pays off and always will.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Jesse on May 19, 2024, 08:52:12 PM
Quote from: Blueforlife on May 19, 2024, 05:29:58 PMAgree, my disagreement was about the need to develop a 3rd stringer in the hope they stick around which is critical for our long term success.  If we can develop another QB like we did Brown there is a chance we can get a discount at the position in the future rather than having to spend big bucks on a free agent.  That said having a situation like we did with Brown repeating itself is a low chance but should be an organizational priority, imo.  I rarely think about one year; this organization's success is largely a result of continuity, strategic planning, development of a strong core and team culture.  Previous to our recent run of dominance it was revolving door of players, coaches and management.  I hope we can continue to develop our dynasty.  Patience pays off and always will.

That would be great, but it almost never happens. Bo Levi is literally the only guy I can think of who was brought in, developed, and started by the same team.

Which is all aards was saying, I believe.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Waffler on May 19, 2024, 10:50:46 PM
The situation here seems ideal for a youngster to progress from prospect to starter. Zach turns 36 before Labor Day and next year is the last of his contract. We will see when the day comes I suppose but it IS coming.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 20, 2024, 07:20:54 PM
DT. confirming today that Neufled will be back.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 20, 2024, 07:47:58 PM
Quote from: Pigskin on May 20, 2024, 07:20:54 PMDT. confirming today that Neufled will be back.

Will he be back to start for game 1? Some reports that he has an injury but no details of how serious. Ditto for Eli.

That gives Wallace a chance to show his stuff today. Not sure what to expect from the other rookie Canadian OL.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Jesse on May 20, 2024, 08:02:33 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 20, 2024, 07:47:58 PMWill he be back to start for game 1? Some reports that he has an injury but no details of how serious. Ditto for Eli.

That gives Wallace a chance to show his stuff today. Not sure what to expect from the other rookie Canadian OL.

I'm sure you know better than to ask.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 21, 2024, 07:31:25 PM
Looks like cooler, wet weather all week.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 21, 2024, 10:12:45 PM
Bombers re-signed OL K. Randolph. They also transferred Castillo to League Suspension.

Obviously some sort of paper shuffle to get him back on the roster. It a curious loophole in roster management.

Rhetorical question / comment:  There doesn't seem to be a 1 game IR option being used with TC injuries. All across the league players are being added to the 6 game IR.

My understanding is that these players are ineligible to play in the 1st game of the season. We aren't really hearing about the extent of any injury to any player as we did in previous seasons. It's easy to understand an achilles injury leading to a 6 game IR.

At the moment Winnipeg has Bighill, Hallett, Parker and now Lawson moved to 6 game IR. Zilch information aside from that.



 
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: DCM on May 22, 2024, 12:30:36 AM
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Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 23, 2024, 03:38:31 PM
With Castillo away, Mastrogiuseppe doing all the kicking. Pretty strong leg.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 23, 2024, 03:41:44 PM
Down to #57 Samson, #96 Schmekel, #95 Thomas, as Canadian DTs. Still not sure Kornelson is a DT.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 23, 2024, 04:11:36 PM
Quote from: Pigskin on May 23, 2024, 03:41:44 PMDown to #57 Samson, #96 Schmekel, #95 Thomas, as Canadian DTs. Still not sure Kornelson is a DT.

That's really confusing, if he doesn't have the right size to suit the position, why is he playing where he's playing?  Just wondering how he got so far without making an adjustment to his plans?
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 23, 2024, 04:12:19 PM
Quote from: Pigskin on May 23, 2024, 03:38:31 PMWith Castillo away, Mastrogiuseppe doing all the kicking. Pretty strong leg.

I've been expecting him to stick on the PR as developmental depth. A possible replacement for Castillo is he retires after this season. At the very least it gives us longer to look at him.

How is he doing with place kicking duties? IIRC he was mostly a punter so that might be a learning curve.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: LXTSN on May 23, 2024, 04:25:05 PM
Quote from: Pigskin on May 23, 2024, 03:41:44 PMDown to #57 Samson, #96 Schmekel, #95 Thomas, as Canadian DTs. Still not sure Kornelson is a DT.
I wouldn't limit Kornelson because of his weight. If he has great footwork/balance/speed then he could be a really good inside pass rusher potentially.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 23, 2024, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 23, 2024, 04:11:36 PMThat's really confusing, if he doesn't have the right size to suit the position, why is he playing where he's playing?  Just wondering how he got so far without making an adjustment to his plans?

Football is situational. If it's 2nd and 2 yards, you might want a big heavy guy at DT. If it's a passing down on 2nd and 12, you may want more of a speed guy inside. He might not be a good candidate as a DE able to contain the run or pressure the QB as a normal DE.  He may have a useful skill set inside. Bombers have often gone in a type of 3 DE's sets depending on down and distance.

At the moment he essentially becomes almost a LB in a possible 34 defence. I wouldn't be surprised if he occasionally lines up in a few different positions. No need to peg him just because of a certain classification.

He might be a developmental player as a DE rotation choice as he learns later?
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: theaardvark on May 23, 2024, 05:50:41 PM
Quote from: LXTSN on May 23, 2024, 04:25:05 PMI wouldn't limit Kornelson because of his weight. If he has great footwork/balance/speed then he could be a really good inside pass rusher potentially.

So, a Cheetah guy?  Wonder if Younger is going to go 3 or 4 DE's at any time...
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: The Zipp on May 23, 2024, 06:13:18 PM
Quote from: Pigskin on May 21, 2024, 07:31:25 PMLooks like cooler, wet weather all week.

update - monsoon coming
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 23, 2024, 06:21:21 PM
To bad Hubert is going back to school. 6'4" 263, DE. He was solid in the short amount of time he played against the Riders.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 23, 2024, 06:26:04 PM
Quote from: The Zipp on May 23, 2024, 06:13:18 PMupdate - monsoon coming

Yes, some heavy rain tomorrow. But, the boys had a very good practice today. I wonder if they might move indoors tomorrow. Looks like sunny weather all next week.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 23, 2024, 06:28:26 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 23, 2024, 04:12:19 PMI've been expecting him to stick on the PR as developmental depth. A possible replacement for Castillo is he retires after this season. At the very least it gives us longer to look at him.

How is he doing with place kicking duties? IIRC he was mostly a punter so that might be a learning curve.

He has a strong leg. Seems to be good 30 yards and in. The longer kicks are hit and miss.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: pdirks67 on May 23, 2024, 07:38:44 PM
I caught the second half of the practice today. I was mostly watching the WRs.

Players who caught my eye:
 - AK Gassama(36): So smooooooothhhh and quick - and caught everything that was thrown his way
 - Keric Wheatfall(79): Seemed very good at adjusting to the ball and catching it in full stride. Made a great catch on a deep throw where he had to contort his body to get his hands on the ball.
 - Kody Case(2): Dropped multiple passes and a kick to start, but seemed to shape up later in the practice.
 - Tanner Schmekel(96): He looks like he bulked up, and seemed to be bringing the nasty.
 - Brian Cole(41): Pulled in a nice pick over the middle. He had to react quickly and go up high to grab it. I didn't catch what position he was playing at the time.

None of the QBs impressed (or depressed) me. Zach honestly looked hungover for the early part of the practice, LOL. But he finished strong.

Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: LXTSN on May 24, 2024, 01:53:56 PM
Quote from: pdirks67 on May 23, 2024, 07:38:44 PMI caught the second half of the practice today. I was mostly watching the WRs.

Players who caught my eye:
 - AK Gassama(36): So smooooooothhhh and quick - and caught everything that was thrown his way
 - Keric Wheatfall(79): Seemed very good at adjusting to the ball and catching it in full stride. Made a great catch on a deep throw where he had to contort his body to get his hands on the ball.
 - Kody Case(2): Dropped multiple passes and a kick to start, but seemed to shape up later in the practice.
 - Tanner Schmekel(96): He looks like he bulked up, and seemed to be bringing the nasty.
 - Brian Cole(41): Pulled in a nice pick over the middle. He had to react quickly and go up high to grab it. I didn't catch what position he was playing at the time.

None of the QBs impressed (or depressed) me. Zach honestly looked hungover for the early part of the practice, LOL. But he finished strong.


Nice to hear about that from Gassama! I thought initially that it was a throwaway pick, just to grab someone from the UofM. It's been proven that size at the WR position in the CFL is overrated in most systems. BC always seems to get the good big WR's but guys like Tim White, Bane, Demski, Banks... etc are able to create space and beat defenders in the open field.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: CrazyCanuck89 on May 24, 2024, 02:57:25 PM
Quote from: Pigskin on May 23, 2024, 06:21:21 PMTo bad Hubert is going back to school. 6'4" 263, DE. He was solid in the short amount of time he played against the Riders.

Good thinks are worth the wait.  Don't understand how he fell to the 8th round? Production, size, good combine.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 24, 2024, 03:23:13 PM
Quote from: Pigskin on May 23, 2024, 03:38:31 PMWith Castillo away, Mastrogiuseppe doing all the kicking. Pretty strong leg.

New guy is going to need a nickname. I can't pronounce his name let alone spell yet. 13 letters. Viahoghiannis is another one that's a mouth full!!
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 24, 2024, 03:46:18 PM
Just commenting on the imports at the moment.

Secondary: McGhee and Bridges seem to have the edge at making the roster. 9 other rookie import DB's not hearing much about.

DL: Garbutt, Haba and Fox are getting the most press: Rivers, D'Abreau. Ellis and Woods have had some commenting on their play.

OL: Musical chairs. No idea who will really win roster spots. One starter and 2 to PR probably. Only 7 candidates, so things are 50/50

LB's: Gemmel, Moses, Thomas and Pettishsen seem to be in a tight battle and are all making plays.

WR's: I have no idea. 11 or 12 players fighting for an AR spot, possibly a DI spot as a returner and a couple of PR players?

Question for today is which are getting most reps at the moment? Which veterans are still very limited in practice?

Always optimistic in TC. We do seem to have found some new talent. How they fit in and where is just a guessing game.

I'm not even sure if some are getting 1st reps at the moment, that it doesn't change day to day.





Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: LXTSN on May 24, 2024, 04:08:56 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 24, 2024, 03:23:13 PMNew guy is going to need a nickname. I can't pronounce his name let alone spell yet. 13 letters. Viahoghiannis is another one that's a mouth full!!
Mastroguiseppe is an unreal name. I hope he doesn't get a nickname cause it's so fun to hear on the broadcast!
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Jesse on May 24, 2024, 04:21:00 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 24, 2024, 03:46:18 PMOL: Musical chairs. No idea who will really win roster spots. One starter and 2 to PR probably. Only 7 candidates, so things are 50/50
players?

Huh, OL seems pretty set in stone from my perspective.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 24, 2024, 04:39:26 PM
So is it Ivy or Lofton taking over for Hardrick. Both are big men, 6'3'/6'4", around 300lbs. Ivy is 26, Lofton is 31.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Jesse on May 24, 2024, 04:54:46 PM
Quote from: Pigskin on May 24, 2024, 04:39:26 PMSo is it Ivy or Lofton taking over for Hardrick. Both are big men, 6'3'/6'4", around 300lbs. Ivy is 26, Lofton is 31.

I haven't heard Ivy in the discussion at all. Lofton's been practicing with the first group since day one and played with them in the preseason game.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 24, 2024, 04:58:39 PM
Quote from: Jesse on May 24, 2024, 04:21:00 PMHuh, OL seems pretty set in stone from my perspective.


I'm not convinced Lofton is the answer but he might be leading at the moment. We had 5 other rookie import OL and then we brought back Randolph.

Also haven't heard whether Neufeld has returned and starting practising yet.

We didn't run at all in the 1st game, so the 2nd game might be more telling.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: theaardvark on May 24, 2024, 05:06:49 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 24, 2024, 03:23:13 PMNew guy is going to need a nickname. I can't pronounce his name let alone spell yet. 13 letters. Viahoghiannis is another one that's a mouth full!!

Maestro and Vhog are my first thoughts...
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: theaardvark on May 24, 2024, 05:11:31 PM
Quote from: Pigskin on May 24, 2024, 04:39:26 PMSo is it Ivy or Lofton taking over for Hardrick. Both are big men, 6'3'/6'4", around 300lbs. Ivy is 26, Lofton is 31.

Okeke should get some consideration... they had him backing up at the more important LT spot... Ivy and Lofton have some CFL experience, so they might have the inside track on RT for the moment, but Okeke will at least make the PR as a development player I'd think.

The other import OL were played against the Riders at interior spots, will be interesting to see where they line up in the last preseason game.  Any comments abot where they are lining up in practice? 
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 24, 2024, 05:36:06 PM
Quote from: Pigskin on May 24, 2024, 04:39:26 PMSo is it Ivy or Lofton taking over for Hardrick. Both are big men, 6'3'/6'4", around 300lbs. Ivy is 26, Lofton is 31.

I don't have good memories of Ivy playing, he seems slow as molasses and not very mobile.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 24, 2024, 06:08:48 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 24, 2024, 04:58:39 PMI'm not convinced Lofton is the answer but he might be leading at the moment. We had 5 other rookie import OL and then we brought back Randolph.

Also haven't heard whether Neufeld has returned and starting practising yet.

We didn't run at all in the 1st game, so the 2nd game might be more telling.

True, 14 running plays is not enough. 
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 24, 2024, 06:15:30 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 24, 2024, 04:58:39 PMI'm not convinced Lofton is the answer but he might be leading at the moment. We had 5 other rookie import OL and then we brought back Randolph.

Also haven't heard whether Neufeld has returned and starting practising yet.

We didn't run at all in the 1st game, so the 2nd game might be more telling.

I don't think you will see him or any of the other injured vet's until next week. And, I would be surprised if any of them  played on Friday.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: BomberFan73 on May 24, 2024, 06:54:46 PM
I also think It's Lofton's spot to lose

As far as the names, Mastroguiseppe is fun to say - have to say it in an Italian accent and wave your hand around
The Viahogianes guy sounds like a name from Game of Thrones.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 24, 2024, 07:08:38 PM
Quote from: LXTSN on May 24, 2024, 04:08:56 PMMastroguiseppe is an unreal name. I hope he doesn't get a nickname cause it's so fun to hear on the broadcast!

Perfect name for a Super Mario character.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 24, 2024, 07:42:36 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 24, 2024, 03:46:18 PMJust commenting on the imports at the moment.

Secondary: McGhee and Bridges seem to have the edge at making the roster. 9 other rookie import DB's not hearing much about.

DL: Garbutt, Haba and Fox are getting the most press: Rivers, D'Abreau. Ellis and Woods have had some commenting on their play.

OL: Musical chairs. No idea who will really win roster spots. One starter and 2 to PR probably. Only 7 candidates, so things are 50/50

LB's: Gemmel, Moses, Thomas and Pettishsen seem to be in a tight battle and are all making plays.



Petrishen spent 4 weeks with the Lions late last year, so he may have a leg up at LB, especially if they are looking for a future Bighill replacement.  He is the right size at 6'-1" 225 lbs and seems to be well spoken.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/05/24/johnny-petrishen-may-24/

If they were looking for a LB to line up behind Cole, Tre Thomas would be a versatile option for his quickness and mobility but he similar to Cole doesn't have the bulk to play MLB.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 24, 2024, 07:59:24 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 24, 2024, 07:42:36 PMPetrishen spent 4 weeks with the Lions late last year, so he may have a leg up at LB, especially if they are looking for a future Bighill replacement.  He is the right size at 6'-1" 225 lbs and seems to be well spoken.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/05/24/johnny-petrishen-may-24/

If they were looking for a LB to line up behind Cole, Tre Thomas would be a versatile option for his quickness and mobility but he similar to Cole doesn't have the bulk to play MLB.

Two players that have looked good in TC. Thomas also showed well in Regina. I was surprised to see Thomas is only 4 lbs. lighter then Petrisher. Charbonneau 6'3" 225 is a guy I want to see next Friday. Big kid, with a big motor. 
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 24, 2024, 08:17:44 PM
Quote from: Pigskin on May 24, 2024, 07:59:24 PMTwo players that have looked good in TC. Thomas also showed well in Regina. I was surprised to see Thomas is only 4 lbs. lighter then Petrisher. Charbonneau 6'3" 225 is a guy I want to see next Friday. Big kid, with a big motor. 

The roster lists Petrishen at 6'1" 225 lbs., Thomas is listed as 6'-1" 200 lbs.  For comparison Bighill is now listed at 5'-10" 241 lbs. and I suspect they're exaggerating his height.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 24, 2024, 08:23:16 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 24, 2024, 08:17:44 PMThe roster lists Petrishen at 6'1" 225 lbs., Thomas is listed as 6'-1" 200 lbs.  For comparison Bihill is now listed at 5'-10" 241 lbs. and I suspect they're exaggerating his height.

The list I received yesterday at practice shows Tre Thomas 6'1" 221, 28 years old, Idaho.

Adam Bighill was listed at the start of TC at 219. Like I said earlier in TC he looked much heavier then that.

This is why I am not that sure that Kornelson at 240 is correct.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 24, 2024, 08:33:18 PM
I was just going over the TC listing they handed out at practice with our Bomber border, and he said there are lots of mistakes on this list. Said, Tre would be closed to 200 lbs.  He had a little chuckle at AB4 at 219. 

He was also surprised to see they could have 17 starters 30 or older.

Bret McDougall is only 22.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 24, 2024, 09:29:51 PM
No practice tomorrow. But, the boys are back at 8:30 on Sunday.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 25, 2024, 01:24:41 AM
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 25, 2024, 01:26:22 AM
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: ModAdmin on May 25, 2024, 02:31:48 AM
Quick Hits | Training Camp Day 13

"..."I'm so grateful that Winnipeg picked me up," Petrishen said Friday in a chat with bluebombers.com. "To be honest, (the release from the Lions) wasn't a gut-punch feeling. I've been cut before in the NFL and other leagues. I've been told 'no' many times. But when the Lions released me I kind of felt like something good was about to happen. I wasn't upset, I wasn't down. I feel like in my career it's taught me to handle the emotional roller coaster, so I knew something good was about to happen and when the Blue Bombers called I knew that's exactly what it was...."

https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/05/24/quick-hits-training-camp-day-13/
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: ModAdmin on May 25, 2024, 02:50:19 AM
Quote from: Pigskin on May 24, 2024, 09:29:51 PMNo practice tomorrow. But, the boys are back at 8:30 on Sunday.

There is a short practice tomorrow (Saturday) from 3:00 p.m. to 4:25 p.m.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 25, 2024, 03:23:17 PM
Which draft choices are returning to college after TC? IIRC there were 3 of the 11 2024 draft choices. We seem to have some really good newbies fighting for roster spots.

Currently 33 healthy Canadians on the roster. Not enough room for everyone but don't want to speculate too much on those we can't keep.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 25, 2024, 04:05:45 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 25, 2024, 03:23:17 PMWhich draft choices are returning to college after TC? IIRC there were 3 of the 11 2024 draft choices. We seem to have some really good newbies fighting for roster spots.

Currently 33 healthy Canadians on the roster. Not enough room for everyone but don't want to speculate too much on those we can't keep.

The only one I know of is #57 Kyle Samson DT returning to UBC.  Last year's 6th round draft pick Bret MacDougall is still only 22, so he may have another year of eligibility left at school. I liked what I saw of him in last seasons pre-season games, but don't know if he played in the game last weekend.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 25, 2024, 04:13:41 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 25, 2024, 04:05:45 PMThe only one I know of is #57 Kyle Samson DT returning to UBC.  Last year's 6th round draft pick Bret MacDougall is still only 22, so he may have another year of eligibility left at school. I liked what I saw of him in last seasons pre-season games, but don't know if he played in the game last weekend.

The others might have been Kalra and Hubert but I'm not 100% sure.

MacDougall could be a good future player. Whether we have room on the roster for Hallet, Ford and Kelly and another Canadian DB is uncertain.

He stuck me as a possible SAM in future although they had him at CB behind Ford. Obviously the depth chart is not entirely indicative. However it might suggest he has some speed and coverage skills. I suppose he could a guy they convert to a LB in the future too. He's young but could have some versatility.

Kelly saw the field in 2023 for 10 games and I thought dis well on ST's.

Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 25, 2024, 05:53:44 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 25, 2024, 04:13:41 PMThe others might have been Kalra and Hubert but I'm not 100% sure.

MacDougall could be a good future player. Whether we have room on the roster for Hallet, Ford and Kelly and another Canadian DB is uncertain.

He stuck me as a possible SAM in future although they had him at CB behind Ford. Obviously the depth chart is not entirely indicative. However it might suggest he has some speed and coverage skills. I suppose he could a guy they convert to a LB in the future too. He's young but could have some versatility.

Kelly saw the field in 2023 for 10 games and I thought dis well on ST's.



Leroux is going back to Laval.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: ModAdmin on May 26, 2024, 04:19:50 AM
Quick Hits | Training Camp — Day 14

"...(Terry) Wilson completed 10-of-15 passes for 115 yards and a TD to Kevens Clercius in last Monday's preseason game against the Saskatchewan Roughriders and on Saturday saw Eric Barriere — the QB he was competing with for the third-string job behind Zach Collaros and Chris Streveler — released by the club while another new pivot in Darren Grainger was brought in for a look-see.

Said Wilson on that: "As tough as this business is, you have to already have in your mind that we're here to compete and earn a spot — it's not given to us, you have to earn it. It's tough to lose Eric because we were building a relationship, but this just comes along with the game. You've always got to be ready and prepared for everything."

His 18 days of camp have already taught him a few things, namely the CFL game moves at a faster pace than down south. The other noticeable difference for him is the importance of first-down production.

"That's the biggest thing to adjust to: being more aggressive while not pressing too much," he said. "It's that and having that time clock in my mind.

"I'm having fun. I'm loving every day. I wake up and am around a good group of guys. Plus, I've been saying this since Day 1 — getting to learn from Zach and Strev has been a huge help for me. I'm just thrilled to be here. I've heard we have the best fans in the CFL so I'm excited to see that, too..."


https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/05/25/quick-hits-training-camp-day-14/
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: ModAdmin on May 26, 2024, 11:25:45 PM
Quick Hits | Training Camp Day 15

"...-If cornerback was a question mark heading into camp with the departure of Demerio Houston to Calgary and with Winston Rose replaced by Jamal Parker down the stretch last season, those concerns have been softened by the work of Tyrell Ford and Tyrique McGhee and the emergence of a new faces like Marquise Bridges and Terrell Bonds, among others. Parker suffered an injury in camp and could be gone for a while, but no franchise has found more talented DBs in the CFL in the last few years than the Blue Bombers.

-Celestin Haba and Liam Dobson look poised to be the the next-men up at defensive end and guard. Haba is primed to replace Jackson Jeffcoat and his experience from a year ago — four sacks in eight games — has shown through camp. He's been explosive....


https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/05/26/quick-hits-training-camp-day-15/
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: theaardvark on May 27, 2024, 04:53:12 PM
This is very welcome news.  DB's have been a strength, but losing 3 is tough. 

Haba looked good last year, great to see he has developed. 

Dobson was the frontrunner for OL, Eli as the 6th man, TE and backup at OG and C is great.

RT and PR OT will be interesting to see play out still.

MLB is probably now our biggest issue.  Question:  Can we put Streveler there?  Yes, its a joke, but is it?

 
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 29, 2024, 04:08:19 AM
Neufled back on the field today, but no BO20 or ND10.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 29, 2024, 01:00:46 PM
Quote from: Pigskin on May 29, 2024, 04:08:19 AMNeufled back on the field today, but no BO20 or ND10.

I was at practice yesterday for the corporate BBQ so I just caught the tail end, but Oliveria was on-field in a sweater and shorts once main camp had ended looking as healthy as you could tell from the concourse. Whatever is keeping him out didn't appear to be very concerning to my untrained eye. I didn't see Demski but wasn't on the lookout for him either.

Today is the last real day of training camp, followed by a walkthrough tomorrow and cutdown weekend after Friday's game.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 29, 2024, 01:11:09 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 29, 2024, 01:00:46 PMI was at practice yesterday for the corporate BBQ so I just caught the tail end, but Oliveria was on-field in a sweater and shorts once main camp had ended looking as healthy as you could tell from the concourse. Whatever is keeping him out didn't appear to be very concerning to my untrained eye. I didn't see Demski but wasn't on the lookout for him either.

Today is the last real day of training camp, followed by a walkthrough tomorrow and cutdown weekend after Friday's game.

Who did it appear were getting the 1st team reps on the DL and MLB?
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 29, 2024, 02:15:15 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 29, 2024, 01:11:09 PMWho did it appear were getting the 1st team reps on the DL and MLB?

Unfortunately I am no help there, sorry. I only saw the tail-end of actual practice (it ended up 30 minutes earlier than scheduled) and I was doing the chatting/mingling thing as they were doing final practice reps.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Blue In BC on May 29, 2024, 02:29:55 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 29, 2024, 02:15:15 PMUnfortunately I am no help there, sorry. I only saw the tail-end of actual practice (it ended up 30 minutes earlier than scheduled) and I was doing the chatting/mingling thing as they were doing final practice reps.

Fair enough. I think most of us have a fairly good idea of which players will make the roster. In any case, IMO we'll see a new group of DI's that may get rotated in quite a bit. In that sense " starters " is a broad term.

Some of the battles will be close and held loosely be winning candidates IMO. That's not a bad thing necessarily but it's different than a rookie beating out a veteran that was still on the roster.

Final cuts and assignment to PR is always interesting.

Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: blue_or_die on May 29, 2024, 06:07:27 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 29, 2024, 01:00:46 PMI was at practice yesterday for the corporate BBQ so I just caught the tail end, but Oliveria was on-field in a sweater and shorts once main camp had ended looking as healthy as you could tell from the concourse. Whatever is keeping him out didn't appear to be very concerning to my untrained eye. I didn't see Demski but wasn't on the lookout for him either.

Today is the last real day of training camp, followed by a walkthrough tomorrow and cutdown weekend after Friday's game.

Tell us more about this BBQ and why I wasn't there
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 29, 2024, 06:20:51 PM
Quote from: blue_or_die on May 29, 2024, 06:07:27 PMTell us more about this BBQ and why I wasn't there

Haha - I am not sure why you weren't there! But it's an annual thing the Bombers do to thank their business partners and corporate sponsors and seems to fall towards the end of camp. Guests watch the last bit of camp and then this year we were in the Pinnacle Lounge for BBQ food and a live band. Wade Miller says a few words and then many players come up and eat lunch and mingle for a few before their afternoon meetings. We were joined by Shayne Gauthier and Deatrick Nichols and both super friendly and fun to spend a meal with.
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 29, 2024, 06:49:55 PM
A lot of players not practicing today. Hallett, Haba, Garbutt, Alexander, Strev17, BO20, ELI, DS83.  Bighill wondering around, but not running.

Wilson making some nice throws. #71 Sy Barnett made some outstanding catches. Wilson and Barnett hooking up on a beautiful deep throw in the end zone.

Demski back at practice and caught a nice bomb from ZC8 for a TD.

#93 Upshaw, 6'5" 240, seemed to be giving the OL all they could handle.

Looks like it's down to Cruickshank, and Josh Vann, getting most of the rep. at punt return. 

Lawson on the sidelines. with crutches, in flip flops. So it's a leg injury, but no knee or ankle brace. 
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: LXTSN on May 29, 2024, 06:58:15 PM
Quote from: Pigskin on May 29, 2024, 06:49:55 PMA lot of players not practicing today. Hallett, Haba, Garbutt, Alexander, Strev17, BO20, ELI.  Bighill wondering around, but not running.

Wilson making some nice throws. #71 Sy Barnett made some outstanding catches. Wilson and Barnett hooking up on a beautiful deep throw. 

Demski back at practice and caught a nice bomb from ZC8.

#93 Upshaw, 6'5" 240, seemed to be giving the OL all they could handle.

Looks like it's down to Cruickshank, and Josh Vann, getting most of the rep. at punt return. 

Lawson on the sidelines. with crutches, in flip flops. leg injury, but no knee or ankle brace. 
Any looks at the new QB in camp?
Title: Re: Main Training Camp News and Observations
Post by: Pigskin on May 29, 2024, 07:02:49 PM
Quote from: LXTSN on May 29, 2024, 06:58:15 PMAny looks at the new QB in camp?

Has a good arm, quick release, seems to move well. But, he didn't look that good once he went up against some pressure from the D. Wilson on the other hand, had a good day.  Wilson might have the strongest arm of all our QB's.