No thread for the Sept 4 TOR@HAM game? Makes for a boring really late watch on my part...
I just heard in this game broadcast (1st Q) Rod Smith say it's AH's final season, he's finally retiring. News to me, but I guess it must have been on 3down or something. Disappointed no one made a thread here for this yet! Has everyone quit on AH33? Rod also said AH will be coaching in junior football in BC. Makes sense, though I'm wondering why WFC didn't have a post-CFL role for him...
Surely AH33 is a future ring of honor @IGF guy?
Now, onto the TOR@HAM game. What's up with the new HAM logo in the chyron and on the field? Is that just a big H now? No more cats? I guess they're trying to look tougher, or are they stealing the "one letter" idea from us? ;D
"For The H" just doesn't seem to have the same ring to it. :o :P
Re: Harris. I believe he served Winnipeg well and deserves kudos for everything he did here. Whatever accolades he gets from playing with the Bombers he deserves.
The Bombers and Harris could not agree on his resigning with the team and he accepted an offer from TO because he wanted to play. I have no problem with that.
I'm not sure what the controversy is over this. It is what happens in pro sports.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 08, 2023, 07:11:30 AM
I just heard in this game broadcast (1st Q) Rod Smith say it's AH's final season, he's finally retiring. News to me, but I guess it must have been on 3down or something. Disappointed no one made a thread here for this yet!
Harris announced this some time ago, before the season I believe.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 08, 2023, 07:11:30 AM
Now, onto the TOR@HAM game. What's up with the new HAM logo in the chyron and on the field? Is that just a big H now? No more cats? I guess they're trying to look tougher, or are they stealing the "one letter" idea from us? ;D
"For The H" just doesn't seem to have the same ring to it. :o :P
That's the alternate logo that goes along with the jerseys they were wearing.
RE: Harris
He signed a 5 year contract with his old CJFL team, the V.I. Raiders to be their head of football operations and is slated to be their HC starting next year. It was in the off-season, but we certainly talked about it. His role in Toronto's offence this year makes it pretty clear that this is his last kick at the can, anyway.
https://www.hopestandard.com/sports/cfl-star-andrew-harris-coming-back-to-b-c-to-lead-his-former-junior-football-team-2087933
He is certainly a candidate for HoF and ring of honour. I am a little bitter about his exit, but that'll fade shortly and we'll all only remember the good times.
As last weeks TOR/HAM game...Hamilton play Ottawa tonight. So maybe a thread for today's game instead, lol?
i was too busy sulking over losing to the Riders...just couldn't watch any football after that.
Harris leaving the Bombers was a bitter pill for me to swallow. However that's pro sports and athletes have egos that often precede them. We all wanted Andrew to sail into the sunset wearing Blue and Gold and for him to end his career after he played in his last GC appearance. It's what we all wanted however it wasn't meant to be and jumped aboard the Argo ship and helped them win a Grey Cup against his former team. He's poised to do it again and at this point in the season the Argos look poised to repeat and it may well be against us. I never saw Harris coming back to the Bombers as a coach under the circumstances he left us....he's always played with a chip on his shoulder and I can't see him reconciling with our coaching staff.
He has an opportunity to forge a new career for himself in BC and I wish him well and thanks for the memories and for being a key factor in our back to back Grey Cups.
Never heard he was retiring until now, but so what?? What are we supposed to post about that hasn?t already been posted dozens of times. I wish him well but wouldn?t hold my breath about him getting in the ring of honour while the present regime is still around. Wounds are still healing.
Quote from: Stretch on September 08, 2023, 11:52:05 AM
That's the alternate logo that goes along with the jerseys they were wearing.
Ah. I've never seen TSN change the actual chyron logo just for a team's alternate jersey!! That must have been a special request. I kind of liked it, but I would miss the more traditional cat picture logo.
Quote from: Jesse on September 08, 2023, 11:59:08 AM
As last weeks TOR/HAM game...Hamilton play Ottawa tonight. So maybe a thread for today's game instead, lol?
Quote from: The Zipp on September 08, 2023, 12:48:58 PM
i was too busy sulking over losing to the Riders...just couldn't watch any football after that.
This. With the Regina stuff and travel time and catching up on work and other stuff, I'm super behind on watching last week's games. And a little bit of "bummed out" for sure.
It's not my fault you guys who didn't travel to Regina didn't make a thread for it! :o :P
Quote from: dd on September 08, 2023, 11:07:58 PM
Never heard he was retiring until now, but so what?? What are we supposed to post about that hasn?t already been posted dozens of times. I wish him well but wouldn?t hold my breath about him getting in the ring of honour while the present regime is still around. Wounds are still healing.
Ya, I didn't hear it until now either. I mean I always heard the general fan chatter of "it's his last year, he's ancient", but people have said that for 3 years. Talk of AH33 retirement always sounded a lot like talk of Tom Brady retirement...
So what do we think, does AH33 rate a ring of honor spot? Does a player with "only" his number of years for us generally make the RoH? Normally no? But he did set a ton of records with us, basically willed us into our big GC appearance and win, sold the most jerseys, and was the face of the team...
The only other current player I could see making RoH is Biggie, but even he might not qualify, looking at the quality of names up on there. But if Biggie stays, and stays effective, another 2-3 seasons, maybe?
Legend, one of the best Canadian backs ever and the best Bomber back imo
All due respect to Blink
There?s no disputing his accomplishments, how he bled blue and gold and being a hometown boy and all, but he left in a huff in a riff with the club, I just don?t see it happening. It?s called the ring of honour, and he didn?t display honour in his dealings with management. I say he doesn?t get in until miller, Walter and OShea move on and maybe not even then.
Quote from: dd on September 09, 2023, 01:36:15 AM
There?s no disputing his accomplishments, how he bled blue and gold and being a hometown boy and all, but he left in a huff in a riff with the club, I just don?t see it happening. It?s called the ring of honour, and he didn?t display honour in his dealings with management. I say he doesn?t get in until miller, Walter and OShea move on and maybe not even then.
Hmm, that's an interesting take. I always just thought of it as "ring of super all-star longevity player",
I'm not as concerned about whether the Can Mafia will give RoH to him; I'm more wondering if he deserves to be there based on the general standard. i.e. Will he
ever make it up there (regardless of regime).
He will be in end of.
It was unfortunate how he left, but it worked out so well for us. Brady is a beast out there and Harris is still one of the highest paid RBs this season and maybe plays 10-20 percent of the plays.
Quote from: kevan on September 09, 2023, 01:21:15 PM
It was unfortunate how he left, but it worked out so well for us. Brady is a beast out there and Harris is still one of the highest paid RBs this season and maybe plays 10-20 percent of the plays.
You?re right, it was unfortunate how he left , it was an ugly split. I think everyone knew it was time, but some didn?t want to accept that. Brady is an absolute beast of a runningback, while Harris plays maybe 20% of the snaps. He would have got the same deal here, but the pay cheque would have been less, and that was the catch. Pinball gave him a heap of cash and he took it in a huff. Sad it couldn?t have worked out but such is life, the only thing constant is change.
Quote from: pjrocksmb on September 09, 2023, 01:34:11 AM
Legend, one of the best Canadian backs ever and the best Bomber back imo
All due respect to Blink
ah....he doesn't hold a candle to Leo Lewis...who won 4 Grey Cups. Perhaps you never had the opportunity to see him play of meet him. He was a the best football player ever coached by Bud Grant, in Grants own words! You know, the guy in bronze!
I give you that he may be the best Canadian back ever or in the top echelon of Canadian running backs but Leo !
Yeah, Blink broke his rushing record but he never helped the Bombers win a Cup and on his last appearance in the Grey Cup he partied the night before....and I never forgave him for that.
Leo Lewis was a dangerous pass receive as well averaging 22 yards per catch in 1960 where he had over 660 yards. He also returned kicks and averaged 30 yards per return. Add to that he passed for 14 touchdowns in his 11 career with the Bombers.
Leo Lewis was hands down the best running back ever to wear Blue and Gold and his character, loyalty and integrity were exemplary and unparalleled!
https://cflapedia.com/Players/l/lewis_leo.htm
Quote from: Lincoln Locomotive on September 09, 2023, 11:15:05 PM
ah....he doesn't hold a candle to Leo Lewis...who won 4 Grey Cups. Perhaps you never had the opportunity to see him play of meet him. He was a the best football player ever coached by Bud Grant, in Grants own words! You know, the guy in bronze!
I give you that he may be the best Canadian back ever or in the top echelon of Canadian running backs but Leo !
Yeah, Blink broke his rushing record but he never helped the Bombers win a Cup and on his last appearance in the Grey Cup he partied the night before....and I never forgave him for that.
Leo Lewis was a dangerous pass receive as well averaging 22 yards per catch in 1960 where he had over 660 yards. He also returned kicks and averaged 30 yards per return. Add to that he passed for 14 touchdowns in his 11 career with the Bombers.
Leo Lewis was hands down the best running back ever to wear Blue and Gold and his character, loyalty and integrity were exemplary and unparalleled!
https://cflapedia.com/Players/l/lewis_leo.htm
I will fight to the death that Charlie was the best ever. Leo is obviously right there and it just depends who you grew up watching.
Andrew is a distant third.
Quote from: Lincoln Locomotive on September 09, 2023, 11:15:05 PM
ah....he doesn't hold a candle to Leo Lewis...who won 4 Grey Cups.
AH33 was 4 GC's too... just sayin'. And.... he could very well get #5 this year!! Hopefully we stop that from happening!
Quote from: Jesse on September 10, 2023, 01:31:45 AM
I will fight to the death that Charlie was the best ever. Leo is obviously right there and it just depends who you grew up watching.
Andrew is a distant third.
Read his stats....not only did he completely revolutionize the game for running backs he could do it all....he was a team player. I was also a big Charles Robert's fan but he wasn't necessarily a team first kinda guy. He went out partying the night before the GC game and we lost. Sorry but that just tarnishes his record and he never won a Cup. Yes Blink was dynamic but this game in a 9 team league is about winning Grey Cups and Lewis did that in spades playing 11 seasons for the Bombers. I was also a huge fan of Andrew Harris and had him up there with Leo and Blink and he WAS instrumental in getting this team to where it is today. I was going to buy a #33 jersey after the 21' GC however when he left us that was not happening. I was bitterly disappointed he couldn't find a way to retire as a Bomber legend, however he does have a chip on his shoulder.
He managed to win another GC with TO and could arguably win a second with them giving him 5.
He's played for 3 teams whereas Leo played all of his 11 seasons with the Bombers. The greatest coach in Bomber history csst in bronze at IGF said he was the greatest player and he ever coached on either side of the border. That's 18 years in the NFL and 9 years for the Bombers.
I get that many of you never saw him play however I've seen them all play and Leo is simply the best and his records and stats dictate that fact.
Watched Leo Lewis play. He was great. He was a Bomber all the way. I would take him any day over the RBs who have played over the years for the Bombers. That doesn't minimize the accomplishments of Harris, Reaves, Heron or Raimey or ???? Leo Lewis though was special in a special era of the Bombers history.
Great career. Too bad he couldn't finish it with the Bombers.
I have him fourth all-time among Bomber backs.
1. Leo Lewis
2. and 3. Charles Roberts and Williard Reeves - tough for me to decide who is better among these 2.
4. Andrew Harris.
Quote from: ModAdmin on September 10, 2023, 06:23:12 AM
Watched Leo Lewis play. He was great. He was a Bomber all the way. I would take him any day over the RBs who have played over the years for the Bombers. That doesn't minimize the accomplishments of Harris, Reaves, Heron or Raimey or ???? Leo Lewis though was special in a special era of the Bombers history.
Zero mention of Blink? Makes this post lack respect. Disappoints me mod.
Quote from: ModAdmin on September 10, 2023, 06:23:12 AM
Watched Leo Lewis play. He was great. He was a Bomber all the way. I would take him any day over the RBs who have played over the years for the Bombers. That doesn't minimize the accomplishments of Harris, Reaves, Heron or Raimey or ???? Leo Lewis though was special in a special era of the Bombers history.
Agreed....and I looooved Dave Ramey and Mack.....I'm not taking anything away from them including Harris and Blink who were both phenoms. However and no disrespect to Any of the great RBs we've had, I felt Leo was the greatest Bomber RB ever and that was before Bud Grant ranked him as the best player he ever coached let alone a RB. That's a pretty lofty accolade coming from someone who coached championship teams for nearly 3 decades! Speaks volumes!!
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on September 10, 2023, 08:08:56 PM
Zero mention of Blink? Makes this post lack respect. Disappoints me mod.
I'm sure it was an oversight right Mod??
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on September 10, 2023, 08:08:56 PM
Zero mention of Blink? Makes this post lack respect. Disappoints me mod.
Based on talent you are 100% correct. But there were other drawbacks.
Quote from: ModAdmin on September 10, 2023, 08:25:51 PM
Based on talent you are 100% correct. But there were other drawbacks.
I do not care what you do off the field. You do know Mack Herron was an apparent heavy drug used right? You did not hesitate to mention him. ::)
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on September 11, 2023, 01:29:53 AM
I do not care what you do off the field. You do know Mack Herron was an apparent heavy drug used right? You did not hesitate to mention him. ::)
You are correct in in the drug use situation. At the time it was described as "small amount of marijuana, and police would also find traces of cocaine" in a raid on his apartment.
And the Bombers released him. I'll give it to you that I should not have included him to be consistent with what I said earlier. I still believe that, over the his history with the Bombers, Leo was the best and most consistent, productive back the Bombers have had.