Would you go for it on that 3rd down?

Started by TecnoGenius, July 28, 2024, 09:54:58 AM

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Would you go for it on that 3rd down? (WPG@TOR late 4th Q)

Yes - We always get that 1 yard
18 (47.4%)
No - Kick the FG
20 (52.6%)

Total Members Voted: 38

Voting closed: August 01, 2024, 09:54:58 AM

TecnoGenius

And no cheating because you know it didn't work out!  Be honest: what were you screaming at the TV before you saw Strevie run out.

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The most controversial HC decision of the game.  Even more interesting after Dinwiddie made the same choice (and failed in the same way) earlier in the game.

MOS in the past has said he considers that 1Y automatic and will always go for it.  But in his post-game he basically spelled out next time he'll take the points... which is strange to see MOS contradict his previous statements.  However, maybe when he said "always" before, he really meant "always under normal game circumstances".

Everyone knows where I stand!  I'm with (the old) MOS.  It should be automatic for a decent team with a good sneaker.  WPG has always been stellar at SY.  I was screaming "go for it", and I stand by that and would do it again.  Every time this season we've given a team 3-down ball at the end of the game we've lost.  Go for the win that's in your hands.
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TecnoGenius

I had my TOR-dwelling WPG ex-pat meet me at the '23 GC.  There were a critical times when each team had to get a 3rd & 1.  I said to him (only a casual fan) that if the team can't get that, they don't deserve to win.  WPG got theirs... I can't recall if MTL did (no?).

Same thing applied today: if we couldn't get that 1Y, we don't deserve to win.  And we didn't.  And I can live with that.
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Jesse

It wasn't controversial at all. Getting the one yard was the highest percentage play to attempt.

But everything that could go wrong, did go wrong yesterday. What a mess.
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Blue In BC

I thought they were just trying to pull the Argos offside. If that didn't work they would kick the FG. That said, it was the 1st time IIRC that we failed in a 3rd in short this season?
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bomb squad

I was a little surprised he went for it. It was a pretty solid 1 yard and maybe a tad more. You can definitely come up short on those. I wanted the field goal. Under the circumstances, it was the better choice. The main reason is Toronto did not have a time out. There would have been a kick-off that they were covering very well to that point. You likely have Toronto starting at inside their 30 with less than 50 seconds left with no time out. A tough position for them they way they were struggling to move the ball. Worst case they tie the game up with a field goal.

jdrattops

It was a no brainer kick the FG yesterday.  Another error by MOS this season.  To this point of the game the  defense only allowed 6pts.  The special teams coverage was great.  But the reason the FG should have been the call yesterday was because "AT BEST" Toronto was only going to tie the game with a FG.  There was absolutely no way their offense was scoring a TD yesterday.  So now you go to OT just like they did.  They win the game even if they kicked a single yesterday, Toronto was not going to get in FG range.

So against BC, let's punt to give the best offense the ball back. Now fast forward, let's keep points off the board, the possible winning points, against the worst in game offense I've seen in a decade.  And do it in a game where Dinwiddie gives you a break because he doesn't kick a FG to go up 2 scores moments earlier. 

On a side note, that's now the 4th fumble by Demski, third lost.  Running into a crowd of tacklers not protecting the ball.  He'll never learn.

jdrattops

Quote from: Jesse on July 28, 2024, 01:11:57 PMIt wasn't controversial at all. Getting the one yard was the highest percentage play to attempt.

But everything that could go wrong, did go wrong yesterday. What a mess.

I don't feel it was the highest percentage play yesterday.  Our Oline was being manhandled up the middle, and we also made an in game change with Eli in for Neufeld.  You also need a proper spot from incompetent officials.

BomberFan73

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 28, 2024, 01:29:32 PMI thought they were just trying to pull the Argos offside. If that didn't work they would kick the FG. That said, it was the 1st time IIRC that we failed in a 3rd in short this season?

I think The Riders stopped us on 3rd & short lastgame?

dd

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We were in a very low scoring game where both teams struggled to score. At that point in the game you take the points and force Toronto to march the field and score which they wouldn't have. They didn't move the ball all game.

Our defense played great, I would have taken the points and they would have held the hopeless Toronto offense to nothing. Even if Castillo missed we get a single and still win the game. That's what smart coaches would have done. I fully expected oshea to do what he did as he isn't a smart Coach. Very good on him to admit he made a mistake and would have taken the points afterwards but too little too late.

This was a game neither team deserved to win but Toronto literally stole that win from us.their defensive TD was massive pass interference but we haven't been able to get a call this year and that trend continued

barbk

My first thought was we were going to pretend to go for it and then call a timeout.  I was very surprised MOS went for it considering how Toronto offensively wasn't moving the ball very well all game.  He usually is very conservative on these plays. 

But I think Strevy being 18 for 18 on 3rd down was going to get it automatic and of course the refs gave us the bad spot.

I would have gone for the FG and had faith on our D to hold

bluengold204

You always take the points when you can... especially at the end of a tied game. 

bwiser

The Bombers had no problem converting their earlier chances on short yardage, so getting that first down puts the game away with a short field goal. I put this loss 100% on the O line. Changes on the O line are needed.

Waffler

I thought field goal. Worst case Argos have time to tie, it's still overtime. But... Sergio missed his kick later so who's to say he made this one. We may have lost in regulation.

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dd

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Quote from: bwiser on July 28, 2024, 02:29:09 PMThe Bombers had no problem converting their earlier chances on short yardage, so getting that first down puts the game away with a short field goal. I put this loss 100% on the O line. Changes on the O line are needed.
Exactly!! This game proved beyond a shadow of a doubt we have a brutal,O line and changes are needed immediately otherwise Collaros isn't finishing the season, he was getting hammered all day and hats off to him, he pushed through that pounding and had a very good game.