With the 2017/2018 hockey season around the corner here is the new thread for discussions relative to the current season. The 2016/2017 thread has been "un-stickied" but still available below.
A couple of storylines as training camp opens today. Enjoy!
http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/09/15/trouba-just-wants-to-play (http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/09/15/trouba-just-wants-to-play)
http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/09/15/jets-goalie-mason-embraces-pressure (http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/09/15/jets-goalie-mason-embraces-pressure)
It will be interesting who makes the roster, and who stays with the Moose.
Players that signed with the Jets (Non-Roster):
Kyle Connor- excellent chance he will make the top 9 or even top 6 forwards. A lock for the roster.
Jack Roslovic- led AHL Moose last year. May be a call up during the season if there are injuries or sub-par performances by 4th line
Brendan Lemieux- Jets are big on him not sure why. He is undisciplined, and has not really lived up to expectations
Jansen Harkins-
Michael Spacek
Mason Appleton
Chase De Leo
JC Lipon
Buddy Robinson
James Lodge
Tucker Poolman- good chance he is a bottom 6 defender
Sami Niku- looking great. Slim chance he makes the lineup, but better chance he is a call up later in the year
Nelson Nogier- possible call up
Julian Melciori- possible call up
Logan Stanley
Jan Kostalek
Cameron Schilling
Eric Comrie
Jamie Phillips
Can they win 35 games this year. ?
No idea how they will do this year.
I do know they have skill and overall talent. Do they match up? Going to be fun to see.
We should be ok and make the playoffs
Go Jets Go
A lot of stars on the ice tonight ....... so let's hope they match the nine goals by Vegas.
Hopefully the after game summations on Poolman & Connor are encouraging & of course HellB.
https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/game-day-jets-host-wild-in-pre-season-opener/c-291128014 (https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/game-day-jets-host-wild-in-pre-season-opener/c-291128014)
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Tonight's Lineup
Forwards: Patrik Laine, Mathieu Perreault, Kyle Connor, Brendan Lemieux, Mark Scheifele, Bryan Little, Adam Lowry, Mike Sgarbossa, Blake Wheeler, Nikolaj Ehlers, Joel Armia and Marko Dano
Defence: Logan Stanley, Dustin Byfuglien, Toby Enstrom, Tucker Poolman, Ben Chiarot and Nelson Nogier
Connor Hellebuyck will start in goal and Eric Comrie will back up.
With that lineup, I predict a 14-13 final score.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 18, 2017, 04:46:39 PM
With that lineup, I predict a 14-13 final score.
Close lol 3-2 loss in a shoot out. God, I hate shoot outs...
First two periods definitely looked like a pre-season game. 3rd looked better.
Lemieux is definitely a physical player, threw his body around everywhere; I forget how fast Blake Wheeler is sometimes; Ehlers can still dance pretty well with the puck; Laine got his obligatory snipe from the top of the face off circle to tie it up and threw a nice check, sticking up for Sheif's after he got rocked.
Helly was decent, but Wild's Michaluk (sp?) was better. Jets threw everything at him in the 3rd. Possession seemed to favour us, so Helly wasn't tested as much. Really looking forward to seeing Mason.
The new slashing penalty is going to take a game or two to get used to it. Pretty sure that's what made up a majority of the PP's for the Jets.
Quote from: BomberPride on September 19, 2017, 12:40:29 PM
Close lol 3-2 loss in a shoot out. God, I hate shoot outs...
First two periods definitely looked like a pre-season game. 3rd looked better.
Lemieux is definitely a physical player, threw his body around everywhere; I forget how fast Blake Wheeler is sometimes; Ehlers can still dance pretty well with the puck; Laine got his obligatory snipe from the top of the face off circle to tie it up and threw a nice check, sticking up for Sheif's after he got rocked.
Helly was decent, but Wild's Michaluk (sp?) was better. Jets threw everything at him in the 3rd. Possession seemed to favour us, so Helly wasn't tested as much. Really looking forward to seeing Mason.
The new slashing penalty is going to take a game or two to get used to it. Pretty sure that's what made up a majority of the PP's for the Jets.
Agree with everything here. Also, was there 100 or 200 penalties?
Lots of rust, but it was certainly on both sides.
Thought the renos were really sharp. I hadn't been to the arena in almost on 3 years
Hellebuyck spent 16:02 on the PP and 11:27 shorthanded, for a total of 27 minutes 29 seconds of icetime with one team on the PP
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 18, 2017, 04:46:39 PM
With that lineup, I predict a 14-13 final score in penalties taken by both teams.
;)
Pretty typical pre-season game. The upgrades to the arena
* are excellent, so that was nice to see. BellMTS Place is a terribly lame name, though. Maybe gotta start calling it The Hangar...? ???
Lemieux going to toe to toe with Foligno was probably the highlight of the night. Laine's goal was pretty nasty.
* (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-jets-true-north-mts-bell-place-renovations-1.4295870 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-jets-true-north-mts-bell-place-renovations-1.4295870))
It's going to be a long season if the reffing is this strict/bad. Felt player's have been using their stick to tap/slash much less over the years but now the league wants
even more to be "cleaned" up ......... get the players to wear the former length gloves & we'd have less ow'eeees & ah whats the use ...... spilt milk.
Caught a session of non lineup yesterday & both sessions today at the IcePlex. Noon, extreme high tempo, was the Jets team plus Stanley, Poolman, Connor
Finally saw Mason, who was okay. Our squad is sooooooo fast & skilled compared to the younger mix of players
Myers, both days, looks so ready & Kulikov is very disciplined defensively, & Hendricks has a lot of fun out there while playing a smart game.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 19, 2017, 04:26:42 PM
;)
Pretty typical pre-season game. The upgrades to the arena* are excellent, so that was nice to see. BellMTS Place is a terribly lame name, though. Maybe gotta start calling it The Hangar...? ???
Lemieux going to toe to toe with Foligno was probably the highlight of the night. Laine's goal was pretty nasty.
* (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-jets-true-north-mts-bell-place-renovations-1.4295870 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-jets-true-north-mts-bell-place-renovations-1.4295870))
I enjoyed seeing Laine beasting the Wild player who hit Scheifele to the ground.
Anyone hear what the lines are tonight?
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on September 20, 2017, 04:15:33 PM
Anyone hear what the lines are tonight?
https://twitter.com/WpgJetsPR/status/910477780281905153/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhl.com%2Fjets%2Fnews%2Fgame-day-jets-oilers-clash-in-winnipeg%2Fc-291191872
Looks more potent than the line up on Monday. Top 2 lines still intact but with way more depth on defense and Mason in net.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on September 20, 2017, 04:54:19 PM
https://twitter.com/WpgJetsPR/status/910477780281905153/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhl.com%2Fjets%2Fnews%2Fgame-day-jets-oilers-clash-in-winnipeg%2Fc-291191872
Looks more potent than the line up on Monday. Top 2 lines still intact but with way more depth on defense and Mason in net.
Thx dude!
Ya i like it.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on September 20, 2017, 02:11:34 PM
I enjoyed seeing Laine beasting the Wild player who hit Scheifele to the ground.
Yeah, that was a pretty risky hit for a meaningless pre-season game. I'm glad Laine stepped in for his teammate.
Jets look crappy in preseason same old same old!
Buff is a loser or a dog chasing it's tail.
Trade him we don't need his crap any longer!
Pretty boring game to watch. Nothing really stood out for me.
Jets stopped skating in the second period and it cost them. Third period was better but again, couldn't find the back of the net.
Conner is starting to look like hes going to be pretty good. I also like Poolman. They need time yet but they kinda remind me of how Scheif and Morrissey looked at first.
Lowry, Armie, Copp ... This may end up being a great line.
believe you meant Connor with Lowry & Armia
Not much to say about tonight's 1-0 loss ...... cept HellB was sound.
Quote from: Jockitch on September 22, 2017, 02:42:07 AM
believe you meant Connor with Lowry & Armia
Not much to say about tonight's 1-0 loss ...... cept HellB was sound.
This all depends if Conner stays up.
Quote from: Jockitch on September 22, 2017, 02:42:07 AM
believe you meant Connor with Lowry & Armia
Not much to say about tonight's 1-0 loss ...... cept HellB was sound.
I really don't think we're going to see anything stand out until the last 3 preseason games. Considering we're about to head into that stretch now we'll likely see more of a separation.
Hellebuyck hasn't really been tested, and Manson deserved a better game. not sure if Maurice intends to alternate those two for the remainder of the preseason, or if Comrie and Hutchinson will see full games. although in my mind - Comrie and Hutchinson are already slotted to head to the Moose.
Comrie will need at least two more years on the Moose to get a chance on the Jets. I doubt he will amount to anything more than a backup.
Laine
I checked out most of the game last night, and we are starting to look more ourselves (to be expected as preseason progresses). Looking pretty good, I thought! Morrissey is our top D. Excited to have Myers back- he will be huge in shoring up from our awful D last year.
Quote from: blue_or_die on September 28, 2017, 12:53:51 PM
I checked out most of the game last night, and we are starting to look more ourselves (to be expected as preseason progresses). Looking pretty good, I thought! Morrissey is our top D. Excited to have Myers back- he will be huge in shoring up from our awful D last year.
Kulikov is a really solid addition, too.
I'm still not sold on why we spent $$ to get Kulikov (cheering that he delivers) ....... vs what I have seen from Chiarot (reliable in my eyes), Melchiori & the potential in Nogier.
Poolman on the other hand ........ he is such a valuable up & comer.
Watched workout today ...... regular line was Petan with Scheif & Wheels but Petan did not work with the 2 PP groups.
On the PP. ...... Connor worked with Little, Ehlers & with Myers & Trouba ........ while Buff & Laine at the point with Perrault, Scheif & Wheels.
Armia killed with Mathias while Dano & Copp worked together ....... the Pen.Kill groups all worked a very passive box (personally think this is proven to be crap)
Little skated with Ehlers & Laine while Perrault was with Roslovic & Armia ...... Copp, Tanev & Connor made up another unit
Absent was Lowry, which was no surprise but Hendricks was missing Spacek & Lemieux worked on things on a separate sheet & only joined in the final 15 minutes & did zippo
Quote from: Jockitch on September 29, 2017, 09:11:13 PM
I'm still not sold on why we spent $$ to get Kulikov (cheering that he delivers) ....... vs what I have seen from Chiarot (reliable in my eyes), Melchiori & the potential in Nogier.
Chiarot= 26 years old, and a journeyman
Melchiori= 25 years old, horrible, career AHLer
Nogier= 21, journeyman, only played last year due to injuries.
Poolman looks much better than all 3 combined
Niku is going to go places after a year or two in the AHL
Stanley may turn it around and prove the critics wrong in a couple of years
Green and Samberg look very promising
QuoteWatched workout today ...... regular line was Petan with Scheif & Wheels but Petan did not work with the 2 PP groups.
On the PP. ...... Connor worked with Little, Ehlers & with Myers & Trouba ........ while Buff & Laine at the point with Perrault, Scheif & Wheels.
Armia killed with Mathias while Dano & Copp worked together ....... the Pen.Kill groups all worked a very passive box (personally think this is proven to be crap)
Little skated with Ehlers & Laine while Perrault was with Roslovic & Armia ...... Copp, Tanev & Connor made up another unit
Absent was Lowry, which was no surprise but Hendricks was missing Spacek & Lemieux worked on things on a separate sheet & only joined in the final 15 minutes & did zippo
God I hope Tanev and Hendricks starts in the AHL. It would be a crime against humanity if they took up a roster spot while guys like Roslovic, Dano, Petan, Spacek, and even Lipon are wasting away in the AHL.
Quote from: jets4life on September 30, 2017, 03:05:48 AM
Chiarot= 26 years old, and a journeyman
Melchiori= 25 years old, horrible, career AHLer
Nogier= 21, journeyman, only played last year due to injuries.
Poolman looks much better than all 3 combined
Niku is going to go places after a year or two in the AHL
Stanley may turn it around and prove the critics wrong in a couple of years
Green and Samberg look very promising
God I hope Tanev and Hendricks starts in the AHL. It would be a crime against humanity if they took up a roster spot while guys like Roslovic, Dano, Petan, Spacek, and even Lipon are wasting away in the AHL.
I think Hendricks will end up being a great signing!
Tanev I like his energy however PB guy mostly.
Stanley could be a bust but I hope not.
Pool man should flurish in the A
I didn't know Andy Samberg played fir us?
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on September 30, 2017, 05:27:17 AM
I think Hendricks will end up being a great signing!
Tanev I like his energy however PB guy mostly.
Stanley could be a bust but I hope not.
Pool man should flurish in the A
I didn't know Andy Samberg played fir us?
Hendricks is a over-the-hill 36 year old 4th liner.
Tanev can skate fast but that is it.
Poolman has earned a shot on the opening roster.
Jets drafted Dylan Samberg?
Quote from: Jockitch on September 29, 2017, 09:11:13 PM
I'm still not sold on why we spent $$ to get Kulikov (cheering that he delivers) ....... vs what I have seen from Chiarot (reliable in my eyes), Melchiori & the potential in Nogier.
Poolman on the other hand ........ he is such a valuable up & comer.
Watched workout today ...... regular line was Petan with Scheif & Wheels but Petan did not work with the 2 PP groups.
On the PP. ...... Connor worked with Little, Ehlers & with Myers & Trouba ........ while Buff & Laine at the point with Perrault, Scheif & Wheels.
Armia killed with Mathias while Dano & Copp worked together ....... the Pen.Kill groups all worked a very passive box (personally think this is proven to be crap)
Little skated with Ehlers & Laine while Perrault was with Roslovic & Armia ...... Copp, Tanev & Connor made up another unit
Absent was Lowry, which was no surprise but Hendricks was missing Spacek & Lemieux worked on things on a separate sheet & only joined in the final 15 minutes & did zippo
Thanks for the detailed report!
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on September 30, 2017, 05:27:17 AM
I didn't know Andy Samberg played fir us?
Chevy broke him outta jail!
Skating with Lowry & Armia yesterday was Tanev .......... PM likes Tanev & he sure has a big opportunity if Copp can't go tomorrow or for awhile
Meanwhile Connor was the odd man out at the workout ........ think Kyle C. would greatly benefit starting with the Moose
Getting giddy in anticipation of the start of this playoff bound season.
http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/10/02/jets-go-with-old-faithful-on-the-wing (http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/10/02/jets-go-with-old-faithful-on-the-wing)
Perreault and Wheeler on the wings with Scheifele at centre on the top line. Second line is Little at centre with Laine and Ehlers on the wings.
One more sleep!! ;D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 03, 2017, 03:36:33 PM
http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/10/02/jets-go-with-old-faithful-on-the-wing (http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/10/02/jets-go-with-old-faithful-on-the-wing)
Perreault and Wheeler on the wings with Scheifele at centre on the top line. Second line is Little at centre with Laine and Ehlers on the wings.
One more sleep!! ;D
As long as they don't crap the bed opening night against the leafs. They have all ways played the leafs tough here.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 03, 2017, 09:40:17 PM
As long as they don't crap the bed opening night against the leafs. They have all ways played the leafs tough here.
I'd be okay with a repeat of last year's overtime game! Matthews with the breakaway, gets stumped. Laine gets the winning goal! I'm preparing for all the Matthews this and Matthews that talk from the Sportsnet crew... ::) Hope the Jets pound the crap out of the Leafs! They are my version of the riders in the NHL. I despise all things Toronto Mapleleafs.
$6 million a year isn't bad if he delivers (can say that for all players I guess)
BREAKING: This morning #NHLJets will announce a 7-year contract extension for forward Nikolaj Ehlers worth $42 million.
Quote from: The Zipp on October 04, 2017, 01:33:09 PM
$6 million a year isn't bad if he delivers (can say that for all players I guess)
BREAKING: This morning #NHLJets will announce a 7-year contract extension for forward Nikolaj Ehlers worth $42 million.
Funny, the notification I got said 6-year @7 mill lol
Quote from: The Zipp on October 04, 2017, 01:33:09 PM
$6 million a year isn't bad if he delivers (can say that for all players I guess)
BREAKING: This morning #NHLJets will announce a 7-year contract extension for forward Nikolaj Ehlers worth $42 million.
Source?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 04, 2017, 01:50:00 PM
Source?
everywhere...
http://www.tsn.ca/jets-ink-ehlers-to-seven-year-42m-extension-1.875209 (http://www.tsn.ca/jets-ink-ehlers-to-seven-year-42m-extension-1.875209)
Quote from: The Zipp on October 04, 2017, 01:54:14 PM
everywhere...
http://www.tsn.ca/jets-ink-ehlers-to-seven-year-42m-extension-1.875209 (http://www.tsn.ca/jets-ink-ehlers-to-seven-year-42m-extension-1.875209)
Yeah, I'm lazy. ;D
This is incredible news!!
randy turnerVerified account @randyturner
BREAKING: Authorities on lookout for Kevin Cheveldayoff, 47, who just robbed local #NHLJets player Nik Ehlers at penpoint. Story coming.
Ok, robbing is a little over the top, but considering that Winnipeg is much maligned by FA's, this is an awesome signing, with some very solid long term benefit. Having #55 and #42 locked up for 7 years at 13.5mil combined is going to make filling in the rest of the roster a lot easier... and they will have good players alongside them, and a good team.
Great signing, Chevy.
Love to hear the caller(s) that was/were on the morning show recently complaining about Chevy. Especially the one complaining about how Calgary just signed Jagr for $1mil, and why couldn't we? Oh, FYI, Calgary just signed Tanner Glass too... when you still have room on your roster for Tanner Glass, after you have signed Jagr... well...
Right, so this is definitely awesome. Now we don't have to worry about him for years, and we won't have the fanbase and media holding him ridiculous expectations at that salary.
OK,
7 yrs / $42 million...
anyone want to photoshop this?
(http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/science/2013/08/28/whats-6-million-dollar-man-worth-today/_jcr_content/par/featured-media/media-1.img.jpg/876/493/1445013043214.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
or am I too old?
Quote from: theaardvark on October 04, 2017, 03:09:33 PM
Having #55 and #42 locked up...
Ehlers doesn't wear #42. He wears #27. ???
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 04, 2017, 05:49:11 PM
Ehlers doesn't wear #42. He wears #27. ???
He must mean we will call him #42 from now on, on account of his contract or something!
Quote from: blue_or_die on October 04, 2017, 06:46:24 PM
He must mean we will call him #42 from now on, on account of his contract or something!
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/932/537/71b.jpg)
Quote from: theaardvark on October 04, 2017, 04:25:45 PM
OK,
7 yrs / $42 million...
anyone want to photoshop this?
(http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/science/2013/08/28/whats-6-million-dollar-man-worth-today/_jcr_content/par/featured-media/media-1.img.jpg/876/493/1445013043214.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
I'm not old to know how that show was but I certainly heard and it's a cool reference.
Nicky LOCKED UP softer cap hit BEAUTY
His buddy Liane will like to see this happen!!!
or am I too old?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 04, 2017, 05:49:11 PM
Ehlers doesn't wear #42. He wears #27. ???
Sorry... was having a brain cramp on his number, and did a Yahoo image search... this was the first pic that came up, and my addled brain locked on it...
(http://www.tsn.ca/polopoly_fs/1.376676.1444836493!/fileimage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/nik-ehlers.jpg)
No idea where or why that photo came from, I wish I could figure out how to replace Yahoo search with Google as the default on my Firefox...
Well that was a brutal start to the season.... Leafs suck!
They look like the BB in the Tim Burke era.
PauMau didn't adjust
Not enough big saves Masson was unimpressive
On pace of 0-82, 0 points.... its a little early to suggest we tank, and the sad thing is, we'd still lose the lottery pick for first overall...
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on October 05, 2017, 01:56:50 AM
Well that was a brutal start to the season.... Leafs suck!
Only thing worse than losing to the leafs is when you are actually in Toronto and your team loses to the Leafs - especially loses so badly....
That extension for Maurice is looking worse every day. What other coaches would be available in-season for when he is fired?
Quote from: theaardvark on October 04, 2017, 11:01:30 PM
Sorry... was having a brain cramp on his number, and did a Yahoo image search... this was the first pic that came up, and my addled brain locked on it...
(http://www.tsn.ca/polopoly_fs/1.376676.1444836493!/fileimage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/nik-ehlers.jpg)
No idea where or why that photo came from, I wish I could figure out how to replace Yahoo search with Google as the default on my Firefox...
That was from pre-season three years ago, IIRC. He did wear it briefly but as soon as he got on with the big club, he took #27 (worn by Tangradi beforehand).
Quote from: gbill2004 on October 05, 2017, 01:28:34 PM
That extension for Maurice is looking worse every day. What other coaches would be available in-season for when he is fired?
Yeah, it's put the team in a bad spot. Maurice has done nothing to deserve it, anyway.
My dream scenario: the Capitals fire Trotz when they choke in the playoffs again, and the Jets get him. ;D
That was the worst sporting event I've attended since the Mike Kelly Banjo Bowl!
Same old crap!
Can't win a face off
Can't kill a penalty
Horrendous defensive breakdowns
Stupid penalties
Sub-par goaltending
Well at least Laine was good.
Myers is not ready to play yet. He was terrible. What the hell was he doing on the first goal?
Enstrom was brutal
Trouba had the worst game he's ever played. Nice rush in the 1st though.
I won't go on, I wasted enough time watching this crap.
Yeah, we bailed when Toronto went up 5-0. That was easily the worst Jets game I've ever attended.
And Leafs fans are the worst. >:(
There seemed to be a lot of players watching the plays... and it wasn't guys that I expected to see that happen to. Wheeler and Scheifele on more than one occasion were standing flat footed as the puck went in. Was very surprising.
And Mason, well... more than once I heard the comentators comment on him being small and out of position. Not something you can do and expect to win games.
I'm assuming a bag skate today, and some very tense time in the film room... hopefully Maurice can fix this quick.
Quote from: theaardvark on October 05, 2017, 03:46:30 PM
There seemed to be a lot of players watching the plays... and it wasn't guys that I expected to see that happen to. Wheeler and Scheifele on more than one occasion were standing flat footed as the puck went in. Was very surprising.
And Mason, well... more than once I heard the comentators comment on him being small and out of position. Not something you can do and expect to win games.
I'm assuming a bag skate today, and some very tense time in the film room... hopefully Maurice can fix this quick.
This isn't the '60s. Paul Maurice isn't going to bag skate a bunch of 22-year-old millionaires on practice day one of the season.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on October 05, 2017, 02:25:21 PM
That was the worst sporting event I've attended since the Mike Kelly Banjo Bowl!
Same old crap!
Can't win a face off
Can't kill a penalty
Horrendous defensive breakdowns
Stupid penalties
Sub-par goaltending
Well at least Laine was good.
Myers is not ready to play yet. He was terrible. What the hell was he doing on the first goal?
Enstrom was brutal
Trouba had the worst game he's ever played. Nice rush in the 1st though.
I won't go on, I wasted enough time watching this crap.
Maybe you go to any bomber or jet games. But no joke it did look like crap on TV.
I swear I've read a post exactly like that before from you!
Should have canned Charlie Huddy in the off season...needed a new defensive mindset and playbook.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 05, 2017, 09:25:09 PM
This isn't the '60s. Paul Maurice isn't going to bag skate a bunch of 22-year-old millionaires on practice day one of the season.
And yet that's exactly what he did at practice today. :D
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on October 06, 2017, 12:56:25 AM
And yet that's exactly what he did at practice today. :D
Yes - 20 minutes of conditioning work at the start of the year is the EXACT same thing as 'bag skating' the team for losing the opener 7-2.
QuoteThe team looked over video from the loss before taking to the ice for a full 60-minute practice, which finished with 20 minutes of conditioning work.
"That wasn't even close to a bag skate, nobody puked," Maurice said. "(Maybe) if we had spent another 20 minutes at it. Back-to-back practices early in the year, it won't happen later in the year, your conditioning is something you want to maintain and improve on.
https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/jets-put-home-opener-behind-them-with-up-tempo-practice-on-thursday/c-291610400
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 06, 2017, 12:36:57 AM
Maybe you go to any bomber or jet games. But no joke it did look like crap on TV.
I swear I've read a post exactly like that before from you!
I went to 4 games last year that were absolute stinkers, but I rank the Leafs game below them for 2 main reasons:
I considered getting rid of my ticket because there was somewhere else I really should have been instead, but kept it because this game was the #1 overall pick in our ticket draft.
I expected to see an improvement from last year but they were plagued by the exact same problems.
Oh well at least they looked good for the first 12 minutes or so, there may be some hope for these guys.
And I don't feel that bad anymore after finding out the defending cup champs got pummeled 10-1!
Common guys need to nice effort and 2 points
GO JETS GO!!!
I don't think Mason is our answer in goal. Too many big rebounds.
I'd also trade Buff. He's so inconsistent.
Btw, how do you like Cassie Campbell giving the colour commentary for the CBC?
I like her. I think she's doing a great job.
Up 3-1...now down 5-3...#firehuddy
No issues with Cassie Campbell she is easy to listen to...
Fire Maurice, Huddy, and Flaherty. It's no coincidence that all of our goaltenders have become worse over time, or not as good on the Jets. Why on earth did they give Maurice that extension?
Cassie C. was so correct when she mentioned how Buff went for a skate & showed no hustle to get back .......... Flames scored on the play.
No other player, on the jets , could ever get away with what Buff does in relation to playing out of position & coasting a lot.
He is a monster hitter, aggressive goal seeker, supposedly a funny guy in the locker room ....... but we see to many C'mon Man incidents
PM needs to rein this guy in or play him as a forward or ......... Chevy should trade him (course I've said that for a couple of years).
Just 80 games left & I can't wait for the turn around.
I agree trade Buff the heck out of here! He stinks and seems to care about fishing more than playing a strong game within a system.
I here the Rangers or the Hawks good be great destinations! Get a good return.
Colorado want him? Duchene lOL
I'm amazed at how quickly this fanbase has already turned on/written off Mason. Watch the team play in front of him: it's the same old piss poor garbage. That's on the coaches.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 09, 2017, 07:06:25 PM
I'm amazed at how quickly this fanbase has already turned on/written off Mason. Watch the team play in front of him: it's the same old piss poor garbage. That's on the coaches.
#firehuddy
#fireflaherty
If the jets can't figure out how to play defense the pressure on the team will cause them to implode.
Holy high visibility those oilers unis are bright...
Quote from: The Zipp on October 10, 2017, 01:11:16 AM
Holy high visibility those oilers unis are bright...
I thought there was something wrong with my TV or how TSN was projecting their colours?
Anyway, PauMau with a serious shake up on the back end including goalie. He isn?t happy either so far.
Hate the Oilers but I like their unis. It's going to be a tough task tonight and I'll be shocked if they pull off a win. The good will be seeing how Poolman does. I really liked him in the preseason games.
Buffy benched or is he hurt?
Poolman gets a chance!!
Quote from: The Zipp on October 10, 2017, 01:17:03 AM
Buffy benched or is he hurt?
Poolman gets a chance!!
Haven?t heard anything about injury...I think he?s finally having to answer for sloppy play. I like Buff but this is a good coaching move. You play 100% on this team or you sit.
Buff apparently hasn't practiced the past two days so I'm wondering if he tweaked something. Maybe coach has been "encouraging" some rest time. Decent start for the Jets. Next, the dreaded second period...
Helly hung out to dry on the first goal....that second one was on him - weak goal
Think that was the Jets first goal in the second period in 3 games. There's hope??
Ehlers on fire...almost had 3
Ehlers
Quote from: The Zipp on October 10, 2017, 02:46:59 AM
Ehlers on fire...almost had 3
And then he did!
Huge win last night. They sure needed that one.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 10, 2017, 06:39:06 PM
And then he did!
Huge win last night. They sure needed that one.
Super fun to beat Edmonton in Edmonton. They had our number last year. We can all take a deep breath now and stop talking about the draft lottery.
Quote from: blue_or_die on October 10, 2017, 08:28:28 PM
Super fun to beat Edmonton in Edmonton. They had our number last year. We can all take a deep breath now and stop talking about the draft lottery.
Where's Jersey now?
Was that the game he was at???
LOL
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 10, 2017, 10:19:21 PM
Where's Jersey now?
Was that the game he was at???
LOL
Im here. Wow... 3 games in, one win on the year and yeah... id guess this would be your comment. :D Isn't it so exciting to win a game? Yes Jets deserved that win. Im worried about big picture though. Oilers have a lot of work to do! But Ok, so remember you started it as usual... no whining later on!
I go to New Years Eve game in E town!
Quote from: Jersey on October 11, 2017, 05:15:05 PM
Im here. Wow... 3 games in, one win on the year and yeah... id guess this would be your comment. :D Isn't it so exciting to win a game? Yes Jets deserved that win. Im worried about big picture though. Oilers have a lot of work to do! But Ok, so remember you started it as usual... no whining later on!
I go to New Years Eve game in E town!
Whining about what later?
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No D Dustin Byfuglien (lower body) at #NHLJets practice at UBC rink today. Injured C Matt Hendricks had short skate before the group. #WFP
somehow I am not overly concerned if Buff isn't out there tomorrow...
saw a few pics of this tremendously large Sturgeon (think that's what it was ID'd as) that Hendricks & Buff landed on their off day in B.C.
........scratching my head at what Buff's lower body issue is, if he can be out landing or helping to land that giant of a fish
I read an article today that shows since 2011-12, the Jets have a .909 save% with Buff on the ice and .924 with him off. There's only 2 D-men with a worse differential in the entire NHL, with a sample size of at least 2000 shots.
I'm pretty sure Buff is currently a healthy scratch.
Mark Scheifele's article on theplayerstribune.com (an excellent website where all of the articles are written by athletes).
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/mark-scheifele-top-5-nhl/
I think what Wheeler said after the game was very telling.
"We all bought in this evening and won the game."
There is pressure on Buff now to buy into the system
or else, in my opinion.
Quote from: galeforce on October 12, 2017, 02:46:22 AM
Mark Scheifele's article on theplayerstribune.com (an excellent website where all of the articles are written by athletes).
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/mark-scheifele-top-5-nhl/
An excellent article and a really good resource to get into the minds of pro athletes. Love this one by #55. Thanks for sharing!
Quote from: gbill2004 on October 11, 2017, 09:29:07 PM
I read an article today that shows since 2011-12, the Jets have a .909 save% with Buff on the ice and .924 with him off. There's only 2 D-men with a worse differential in the entire NHL, with a sample size of at least 2000 shots.
I'm pretty sure Buff is currently a healthy scratch.
Quote from: In Motion on October 12, 2017, 06:08:17 AM
I think what Wheeler said after the game was very telling.
"We all bought in this evening and won the game."
There is pressure on Buff now to buy into the system
or else, in my opinion.
Either way, he seems to be enjoying the BC part of the trip...
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Quote from: In Motion on October 12, 2017, 06:08:17 AM
I think what Wheeler said after the game was very telling.
"We all bought in this evening and won the game."
There is pressure on Buff now to buy into the system
or else, in my opinion.
He's on a $7.6M deal that takes him to the age of 36... or else what?
Quote from: Colton on October 12, 2017, 03:08:30 PM
He's on a $7.6M deal that takes him to the age of 36... or else what?
He gets traded.
Quote from: gbill2004 on October 12, 2017, 03:37:20 PM
He gets traded.
Big contract. Somebody would have to really like him and we'd have to take one back.
Quote from: Colton on October 12, 2017, 03:08:30 PM
He's on a $7.6M deal that takes him to the age of 36... or else what?
Or else nothing. He has a soft tissue injury which is keeping him from playing. For some reason, though, fans here think there's some conspiracy afoot because he and a teammate went fishing.
I can't see any team entertaining a trade for that massive contract, either.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 12, 2017, 04:23:48 PM
Or else nothing. He has a soft tissue injury which is keeping him from playing. For some reason, though, fans here think there's some conspiracy afoot because he and a teammate went fishing.
I can't see any team entertaining a trade for that massive contract, either.
Troy Westwood suggested he's been a healthy scratch. Hustler is assuming the same thing if you listen to his show.
Quote from: gbill2004 on October 12, 2017, 05:18:03 PM
Troy Westwood suggested he's been a healthy scratch. Hustler is assuming the same thing if you listen to his show.
I don't listen to either. They're both lousy and unqualified.
Hard to say on this one. If Maurice wanted to sit him down, it's a heck of a lot easier to say he's got a soft tissue injury then it would be to publicly bench him. It's probably most importantly better for Buff to do that, because he hates the media at the best of times and now won't be mobbed by interviewers asking why he isn't playing well, if he's out of shape, what he thinks about being a healthy scratch, ect.
There are a lot of reasons why Maurice would go this route, if, and that's a big if, he wanted to sit him. There's no question that Buff can be a rover out there and for a team trying to nail down consistency with their systems, it must be tough to do it with him on the ice.
Quote from: gbill2004 on October 12, 2017, 03:37:20 PM
He gets traded.
Not this year he doesn't, and if it's beyond this year it's to a contender.
Quote from: Colton on October 12, 2017, 08:15:13 PM
Not this year he doesn't, and if it's beyond this year it's to a contender.
He's got a NMC this year, but he can still be traded.
Quote from: gbill2004 on October 12, 2017, 09:31:22 PM
He's got a NMC this year, but he can still be traded.
If he chooses to he can be, but in the context of "He must do X, or else", no, he can't be.
Quote from: Colton on October 12, 2017, 09:41:14 PM
If he chooses to he can be, but in the context of "He must do X, or else", no, he can't be.
Yes I understand how a NMC works. But often if a teams asks a player to waive it, they will. The NMC just gives the player more control.
A good night when the Jets beat the Canucks 4 - 2. Even better week if the Bombers beat the Lions on Saturday!
Quote from: ModAdmin on October 13, 2017, 04:42:13 AM
A good night when the Jets beat the Canucks 4 - 2. Even better week if the Bombers beat the Lions on Saturday!
Indeed. Nice road win for the Jets tonight! Hellebuyck is looking solid in net.
Nice to see Helly backstop us to nice road wins in Edm and Van !
So do we keep him in net, or give Mason another chance ? ???
Quote from: PloenFan on October 13, 2017, 11:40:19 AM
Nice to see Helly backstop us to nice road wins in Edm and Van !
So do we keep him in net, or give Mason another chance ? ???
Helle keeps starting as long as he keeps playing well/winning.
Hellebuyck has played pretty good the past two games but I would give Mason a chance soon to get back in. He deserves it as the team was playing so poorly in front of him. He's got to get his confidence going and build that trust with his defenders.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on October 13, 2017, 12:47:40 PM
Hellebuyck has played pretty good the past two games but I would give Mason a chance soon to get back in. He deserves it as the team was playing so poorly in front of him. He's got to get his confidence going and build that trust with his defenders.
Agreed. If not tomorrow, I see Mason getting back in net on Tuesday against the team that drafted him.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on October 13, 2017, 12:47:40 PM
Hellebuyck has played pretty good the past two games but I would give Mason a chance soon to get back in. He deserves it as the team was playing so poorly in front of him. He's got to get his confidence going and build that trust with his defenders.
IMO you ride the hot hand and maintain the line up until cracks start to show. Obviously down the line, assuming BuckBuck continues his great play, he will need a rest, but that may not be for several more games.
"My" plan of Helle coming in and killing it, taking over and owning the starters job is looking good! lol
Was listening to 1290 yesterday, and they were discussing the conspiracy. I think it was Weibe that shut them down (although they kept on about it after) by stating:
1 Buff was walking with a limp, no way he goes to that level of deception to hide a benching.
2 A benched player doesn't get to miss practice, they go extra, especially when a bag skate is called. If you are healthy, you don't skip a bag skate, and if you're being benched you do extra.
Pretty solid reasoning...
Buff is injured, day to day with a lower body soft tissue injury (Weibe also let it drop that it is a groin). This can be short term, or very long term, needing surgery.
The way Poolman is playing, not missing Buff at all...
Here's a concept, Trouba is tied up for 2 years at $3mil. Does it make sense right now to trade him? Or do we squeeze this year out of him first? Once Buff is healthy, that is...
That Buff contract is now looking like a massive mistake.
Quote from: gbill2004 on October 13, 2017, 04:52:19 PM
That Buff contract is now looking like a massive mistake.
After four games...? ???
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 13, 2017, 05:25:38 PM
After four games...? ???
After 2 games ;)
I'm sure, when he gets healthy, Buff will be his normal self. A risk/reward guy that needs his D partner/forwards to have his back now and then.
Just curious, the Buff/Lean that came to camp was supposed to be in great shape. Yet he has looked awkward on the ice, and now this injury. Did he overtrain in the offseason, and not pay attention to his game?
Buff goes rogue way too often for my tastes. The best teams win through disciplined systems play combined with superior skill and good goaltending. I think the Jets have the skill and sometimes the goaltending, what we haven't had is great systems play and Buff is one of the reasons for that. He's a rover out there at times which is occasionally brilliant, typically fun to watch, but often a liability.
Quote from: theaardvark on October 13, 2017, 07:27:57 PM
After 2 games ;)
I'm sure, when he gets healthy, Buff will be his normal self. A risk/reward guy that needs his D partner/forwards to have his back now and then.
Just curious, the Buff/Lean that came to camp was supposed to be in great shape. Yet he has looked awkward on the ice, and now this injury. Did he overtrain in the offseason, and not pay attention to his game?
Four games into the season is what I meant. Two games where he didn't look right and then two without him where the team has gone 2-0 isn't a reasonable indication of anything, especially the claim his contract extension is a massive mistake.
I have to think he wasn't 100% to start the season and then exacerbated his injury. I agree when he's 100% and back on the ice he'll be an asset to this team.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 13, 2017, 05:25:38 PM
After four games...? ???
Based on this:
QuoteDellow: Risk, reward and the Dustin Byfuglien question
Since the Jets moved to Winnipeg, Dustin Byfuglien has one of the worst differences between his on-ice and off-ice save percentages at 5-on-5 in the NHL. When Byfuglien's on the ice, the Jets have put up a .909 since 2011-12. When he's on the bench, they've put up a .924. Only Seth Jones and Jake Muzzin have worse differentials amongst defencemen who've been on the ice for at least 2000 shots in that window. They're both much closer to the 2,000 shot threshold (2,337 shots against and 2,406 shots against) than Byfuglien (3,735 shots against), which means that there's probably more noise in their save percentages than in Byfuglien's.
As a result of this, Byfuglien is one of the unusual players whose Corsi% is quite different than his GF%, even in a large sample. Relative to his team since 2011-12, Byfuglien's Corsi% is 2.4 points better than the Jets when he's on the bench. That's good! His GF% is 1.7 points worse than the Jets when he's not on the ice. That's bad! It's important to note that this is a save percentage problem, not a shooting percentage problem ? the Jets have shot 8.2 per cent with Byfuglien on the ice at 5-on-5 in this time and 8.0 per cent when he's on the bench.
More here: https://theathletic.com/122990/2017/10/10/dellow-risk-reward-and-the-dustin-byfuglien-question/
FWIW, Chevy and Maurice were at the Moose game last night. More and more team are moving in the direction of having three scoring lines, and one checking/specialty line instead of a traditional top 6/bottom 6 format. Could the Jets be thinking of bringing up Connor and Roslovic and sending Dano and perhaps Tanev or Matthias down to the AHL?
As for Buff, I think it will depend on how the rest of our defenders perform throughout the season. Poolman is playing better than expected. If Niku turns out to be the best D-man on the Moose and Logan Stanley makes dramatic strides into one day becoming a top pairing D-men (he is tearing up the OHL), Buff may become expendable.
Quote from: gbill2004 on October 11, 2017, 09:29:07 PM
I'm pretty sure Buff is currently a healthy scratch.
You were bang on when you said this about Westerman, so I assume you must be right this time too.
Quote from: sweep the leg on October 14, 2017, 02:38:46 PM
You were bang on when you said this about Westerman, so I assume you must be right this time too.
Yes, because they're the exact same situation ::)
And I never said Westerman wasn't injured...I was speculating because the club was hiding everything surrounding the injury, which raised lots of questions. Everyone was speculating.
But in the end, you can choose to believe whatever you like.
Quote from: gbill2004 on October 13, 2017, 09:28:23 PM
Based on this:
[some cherry picked stats that don't come close to painting a complete picture]
Looks like confirmation bias to me.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 14, 2017, 04:31:38 PM
Looks like confirmation bias to me.
If you want to ignore the stats, that's fine with me!
Those are some very telling and scary stats! But not surprising.
Buff is back in tonight as is Armia. Hellebuyck starts again. Poolman and Lowry out (upper body injury, day-to-day). Not excited about Poolman being out, but I'm hoping he's back in again soon. Solid playing so far. Buff said he had a nagging injury since training camp so I'm hoping that's why his play was so poor. He has to turn the intensity up tonight.
Nice to see Buff play a good game tonight. When he's good, he's very good. When he's bad, he can single handedly cost a team a win. Good Buff/bad Buff.
Nice to see the Helly backstop us to three straight wins! :D
Quote from: gbill2004 on October 15, 2017, 02:29:23 AM
Nice to see Buff play a good game tonight. When he's good, he's very good. When he's bad, he can single handedly cost a team a win. Good Buff/bad Buff.
Buff still passes the puck out of the D zone like a drunken sailor. It looked below average in the first couple periods to me.
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#NHLJets place Mathieu Perreault on IR and recall Kyle Connor.
Perrealt sure is hurt a lot...hopefully nothing too serious
#NHLJets Mathieu Perreault out for approx 4 weeks; Kulikov 2 wks or less; Lowry another game or 2; Mason starts in goal Tues. vs Columbus.
Quote from: gbill2004 on October 16, 2017, 06:04:06 PM
#NHLJets Mathieu Perreault out for approx 4 weeks; Kulikov 2 wks or less; Lowry another game or 2; Mason starts in goal Tues. vs Columbus.
Huge confidence game for him...he comes in and stinks it up it will a big blow to him mentally...
Quote from: gbill2004 on October 16, 2017, 06:04:06 PM
#NHLJets Mathieu Perreault out for approx 4 weeks; Kulikov 2 wks or less; Lowry another game or 2; Mason starts in goal Tues. vs Columbus.
Looking forward to seeing what Connor's got. He has I think 7 points in 4 games with the Moose so far.
Quote from: blue_or_die on October 16, 2017, 06:34:43 PM
Looking forward to seeing what Connor's got. He has I think 7 points in 4 games with the Moose so far.
This is a great opportunity for him to see if he can stick with the big club. I'm stoked to see him play.
Also glad to learn Mason is getting the start tomorrow vs. the Jackets.
Press Box Perrault is hurt again. Bad luck, black cloud or somehow brittle ....... this competitor struggles to stay healthy.
Stats show, not counting 2 incomplete seasons with the Caps, he has played 4 previous seasons here & for various reasons has missed 61 games ..... YIKES !!
Great opportunity for Connor, without a doubt.
Quote from: The Zipp on October 16, 2017, 06:34:26 PM
Huge confidence game for him...he comes in and stinks it up it will a big blow to him mentally...
Agreed. The team is playing better in general so that should help. He really didn't get much help during the first game and a half.
Two terrible turnovers leading to Blue Jackets goals followed by a softie goal for Mason. If the Jets are consistent at anything it's being inconsistent. Back to the poor playing after 3 decent to good games.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on October 18, 2017, 01:45:14 AM
Two terrible turnovers leading to Blue Jackets goals followed by a softie goal for Mason. If the Jets are consistent at anything it's being inconsistent. Back to the poor playing after 3 decent to good games.
Mason no doubt should've had that last one. But after a solid first period, they just fell apart in the middle frame.
Beauty goal by Connor, though.
I said before and I'm going to say it again.
This team going anywhere With a coach like PoMo. Loser coach!
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 18, 2017, 03:54:27 AM
I said before and I'm going to say it again.
This team going anywhere With a coach like PoMo. Loser coach!
Am starting to agree.... I get that Mason is the starter but you just don't sit a goalie whose won 3 straight for you. Does the team perhaps play a bit differently when #37 is in net? Back to Helly on Friday.
This team is really weird, no real identity and it seems that they don't have a sound system or aren't following what they have..they were overplayed in the first period - Mason made some good stops. I don't have a problem with Maurice giving him a shot, you need 2 goalies and he needed to get his confidence - that didn't happen...
I still think Huddy and Flaherty needed to be axed in the off-season - this division is going to be tough, last night was a winnable game at home and they were outmatched, out played. Glad I am not dropping 200+ per game to see this anymore (not that Chipman cares as there is still a huge line up of people willing to shell out big $$ for the chance of seeing some exciting offensive play from Laine, Ehlers etc.)
3 out of 5 goals were unassisted.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 18, 2017, 09:49:04 PM
meaning?
There was no secondary scoring (assist) on those goals. I think that's what BomberPride means, anyway.
But actually, only two goals were unassisted: Foligno's (10:50 of period 2) and Sedlak's (18:11 of period 2).
Looking at the shots allowed during the first six games, we seem to be allowing between 30 and 40 shots per game.
It looks as is Helly is handling the volume, allowing one or two goals per game, which gives us a chance to win.
However, Mason is allowing an average of six goals on the same volume of shots.
Looking at his career stats, it looks as he averaged about 25 to 30 shots per game during his career.
What's different between him and Helly: does he give up more rebounds ?
I heard a comment on a post game show about Helly and how he's like Velcro, not allowing rebounds.
Do the defencemen need to do a better job or clearing rebounds or blocking shots ?
Quote from: PloenFan on October 19, 2017, 01:42:29 AM
Do the defencemen need to do a better job or clearing rebounds or blocking shots ?
Yes. Not just the defensemen but the entire team when they're in the defensive zone.
Mason gives up to many rebounds.
Finally...Chiarot is in the lineup... all is saved ;)
Hard earned money t go tonight. Better not be a crapfest!!!
Exciting win ...... the big 6 came thru, HellB was solid & the Dmen seemed pretty thorough.
.......... however the bottom 6 certainly lacked ooomph!
Connor has some great vision. Beauty saucer pass to Wheeler for his 200th career goal.
Anyone know why there's 6 days between games?
Quote from: blue_or_die on October 22, 2017, 01:11:18 PM
Anyone know why there's 6 days between games?
Bye-week? Is that a thing?
They were talking about the long stretch without games on last game's pre-game show. Apparently a number of teams have had this. It was pointed out that due to the World Cup last season, the schedule had to be more condensed. This year without it, games are more spread out. Still seems odd though. With the game against Pittsburgh on Thursday, the Jets play 6 games in 10 days. With the 6 days off prior to that, you would think they could have spread the games out a bit more. Oh well. Maybe it will be good for them to get into a groove again with so many games in a short span.
Quote from: BomberPride on October 22, 2017, 05:35:35 PM
Bye-week? Is that a thing?
It is. The NHL implemented a bye week starting last season. However, this is not the Jets bye week. Their bye week is Jan. 14-19. (https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-bye-weeks-for-2017-18-season/c-290159620 (https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-bye-weeks-for-2017-18-season/c-290159620))
In this instance, it's just weird scheduling from the looks of it.
Anyway, nice win on Friday. That dreaded two-goal lead happened and then the Wild with three straight goals. Great to see the Jets continue to battle and get the equalizer. Laine had a solid game.
Really hoping Helly and Ehlers have their breakout year this time around.
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Paul Maurice confirmed today that Connor Hellebuyck will start Thurs vs PIT.
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Paul Maurice confirmed today that Connor Hellebuyck will start Thurs vs PIT.
4-0. Tough not to go with the kid.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 24, 2017, 06:08:16 PM
4-0. Tough not to go with the kid.
2.32 GAA and a .928 SV%, not to mention a perfect starting record. Take away his relief duty stats (Oct. 4 vs. TOR) and those numbers sit at 2.00 GAA and a .937 SV%.
He's off to an incredible start.
Helly stopped 34 of 36 shots for a .944 save percentage tonight, and allowed 2 goals in 61:07 minutes for a 1.97 GAA.
Quote from: PloenFan on October 27, 2017, 03:34:22 AM
Helly stopped 34 of 36 shots for a .944 save percentage tonight, and allowed 2 goals in 61:07 minutes for a 1.97 GAA.
Unacceptable! Run this guy out of town!
lol. Hey, even though we lost, I really can't ask much more of the team and especially Helle. Came out with a point on the road against the defending champs. No shame.
Gotta admit that Kessel's goal was beautiful.
Anyone want to mention Pavelec's outing? Waiting for the ones who will suggest that he would have been a better / cheaper backup to Helle...
Last night was a great game to watch. Murray was too good, unfortunately lol
Both goals against Helly were 5 hole snipes. I saw better play from the defence, and I hope Connor sticks around.
Quote from: theaardvark on October 27, 2017, 03:19:27 PM
Anyone want to mention Pavelec's outing? Waiting for the ones who will suggest that he would have been a better / cheaper backup to Helle...
Anyone who makes that suggestion based on one game isn't thinking straight. For every good game Pavelec has, he has more than a few lousy ones.
I saw a secondary scoring chart of all NHL teams yesterday and Winnipeg and Edmonton were the only 2 teams that have not had a 5 on 5 goal scored by a bottom 6 forward. Toronto was ranked first in the NHL.
Bottom 6er, Tanev gets lone goal, Mason plays quite good, Wheeler absolutely robbed in OT & Buff, later in OT is lazy going back for the puck, Columbus pokes it away ....
...... shortly as in seconds later ...... Jets lose 2-1.
Mason stopped 35 of 37 shots for a .946 save percentage tonight, and allowed 2 goals in 62:38 minutes for a 1.92 GAA.
This looks more like what we were expecting from him.
What a bunch of losers with a Loser coach!
On the winning goal for CBJ Buff had a 10ft lead to get to the pick in his own zone coasted in,in an non shalant way as only Buff can do, CBJ player races in easily catches Buff that led to the game winning goal. More concerned with the next fishing trip. A cancer!
Trade his *** now! Buff is a total couch potatoe after about 15 mins of playing time.
Wheeler Little Are MIA
Entrom caused the tying goal with his stupid puck retrieval move in and out maneuver that know one falls for.
He can?t shot and hit the net he?s sucks period.
See a familiar trend with the players noted above?
ALL LOSER THRASHER PLAYERS WE EXTENDED!
Wheeler is not a good captain he?s a weapon not a leader!!!
Mason stole is the point. Never seen a more pathetic PP. I think if I saw Pomo in the street I?d tell him he?s a loser to his face.
The Jets got 2/4 possible points against two very strong top ten teams. And it was back-to-back games to boot. Power play needs work for sure but credit to Columbus for a very solid PK. The Jets had no answer for it. The team is coming along after a dreadful start. Sky is definitely not falling yet after only 9 games in.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on October 28, 2017, 02:52:08 AM
The Jets got 2/4 possible points against two very strong top ten teams. And it was back-to-back games to boot. Power play needs work for sure but credit to Columbus for a very solid PK. The Jets had no answer for it. The team is coming along after a dreadful start. Sky is definitely not falling yet after only 9 games in.
It?s not you are correct however! No visible improvement on some players behalf. Either Buff was lazy or Maurice was stupid enough to put his butt back out there!
Will be interesting to see if Buff gets an undisclosed injury before Sunday's game (or is this just my wish) & we play a "responsible" player in his place.
I wish Poolman was in the lineup again.
Quote from: Jockitch on October 28, 2017, 06:37:44 PM
Will be interesting to see if Buff gets an undisclosed injury before Sunday's game (or is this just my wish) & we play a "responsible" player in his place.
I have a hard time watching Buff. Wish we could trade him. Otherwise, I think our team is playing some exciting and good hockey. Our goaltending looks better so far this season. I think we'll make the playoffs.
First period - destroying the champs!!
Don't go to sleep Jets - this could end up being a close game yet.
Update: guys the lead was safe - nice win
What a game last night! Wheeler's third goal was pure filth. Excellent win.
So fun to watch these blowouts when they're on our side! Laid waste to the defending 2x champs!
Hellebuyck currently ranked 5th overall in SV% (.937) and 6th in GAA (2.05)
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on October 31, 2017, 01:32:58 PM
Hellebuyck currently ranked 5th overall in SV% (.937) and 6th in GAA (2.05)
And he looks to be starting again tonight!
Can't wait.
A win tonight would be truly awesome.
Second line needs to step up.
Solid first period. How the hell was that not a goal for Myers? ???
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 28, 2017, 02:26:45 AM
What a bunch of losers with a Loser coach!
On the winning goal for CBJ Buff had a 10ft lead to get to the pick in his own zone coasted in,in an non shalant way as only Buff can do, CBJ player races in easily catches Buff that led to the game winning goal. More concerned with the next fishing trip. A cancer!
Trade his *** now! Buff is a total couch potatoe after about 15 mins of playing time.
Wheeler Little Are MIA
Entrom caused the tying goal with his stupid puck retrieval move in and out maneuver that know one falls for.
He can?t shot and hit the net he?s sucks period.
See a familiar trend with the players noted above?
ALL LOSER THRASHER PLAYERS WE EXTENDED!
Wheeler is not a good captain he?s a weapon not a leader!!!
Mason stole is the point. Never seen a more pathetic PP. I think if I saw Pomo in the street I?d tell him he?s a loser to his face.
Dude.
No other coach will come here and change anything. The team is built the way it is.
Its a young fast team that have lots of young talent. Some that is locked up for years. Its not the CFL and only have a few years to build and produce.
Not 20 games in. Stop freaking out mate
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 31, 2017, 11:50:25 PM
Solid first period. How the hell was that not a goal for Myers? ???
Ya thats jus stupid
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 01, 2017, 12:01:32 AM
GOLDIE needs anger management.
I just do not like seeing crappy proformances and you can call me angry Greg LOL
Great Helle performance and good D
Stay out of the box boys and bring it home!
Solid road win
Helle is the MVP so far easily
Ehlers effort is golden
Felt the Jets escaped with this one .......... great pressure by Wild & wow did they ever turn it up ice fast, with a lot of shot attempts throughout ......... HellB - awesome
Definitely liked how Jets collapsed to protect against rebounds under the chaos.
Huge chances for the shots we had ......... bring on Dallas
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 31, 2017, 11:50:25 PM
Solid first period. How the hell was that not a goal for Myers? ???
...it was.....except it wasn't :-\
2-0 against division opponents. And they were clean wins. We didn't give away any loser points to our division or conference yet.
watched only the end of second and third...thought the Jets were going to give it away after Ehlers scored...they looked like they were skating with lead shoes. I was hoping Pomo would call a timeout and tell them to wake up. Thankfully Helly and and some good bounces outlasted the Wild rush at the end.
At some point in the next couple of years we will be in a playoff series with the Wild and it will be crazy...
Aside from the furious late Wild pressure the Jets had clean look to include fefe on a beak away a scramble play by Wheeler chance and Ehlers had a crack as well.
Shots ended up being relatively even. I think.
Quote from: blue_or_die on November 01, 2017, 12:23:16 PM
...it was.....except it wasn't :-\
2-0 against division opponents. And they were clean wins. We didn't give away any loser points to our division or conference yet.
Great point. Literally doing all we can to force our way into the play offs so far.
Tied with Dallas for 2nd in the Central and we play them tomorrow!
Quote from: Jesse on November 01, 2017, 03:12:10 PM
Great point. Literally doing all we can to force our way into the play offs so far.
Tied with Dallas for 2nd in the Central and we play them tomorrow!
Yep, can't wait for that one. It'll be the first game I've attended against a division opponent so I'm expecting a great atmosphere.
Helly in net again.
Helle is now ranked 5th in GAA and 4th in Save Pct:
http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?report=goaliesummary&reportType=season&seasonFrom=20172018&seasonTo=20172018&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,4&sort=savePctg,wins,goalsAgainstAverage
Quote from: blue_or_die on November 01, 2017, 06:06:56 PM
Yep, can't wait for that one. It'll be the first game I've attended against a division opponent so I'm expecting a great atmosphere.
Helly in net again.
do not eclectic to much ?electricity? the wildness of Jet fans is gone. The Hab game Saturday will be better. I went to the Wild game earlier it wasn?t much special.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on November 02, 2017, 11:43:15 AM
do not eclectic to much ?electricity? the wildness of Jet fans is gone. The Hab game Saturday will be better. I went to the Wild game earlier it wasn?t much special.
All the losers in Habs jerseys will be there...hoping for a shut-out to send them home to cry in their soup...
Haven't been to a Jets game in a couple of years but can notice on TV it isn't as loud and crazy as those first few years. The "Go Jets Go" just doesn't have the same intensity.
Quote from: The Zipp on November 02, 2017, 12:23:37 PM
All the losers in Habs jerseys will be there...hoping for a shut-out to send them home to cry in their soup...
Haven't been to a Jets game in a couple of years but can notice on TV it isn't as loud and crazy as those first few years. The "Go Jets Go" just doesn't have the same intensity.
Too be expected, but I think it'll pick up if we keep rolling like this. After our last two outings and considering our standings compared to Dallas I think excitement will grow as faith in the team does.
need to get this dude on track...Ehlers is filling in nicely but need a 100% Laine to win consistently..
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Patrick Laine brutally honest about low confidence he has right now. Asked what he?s struggling with he said ?ice hockey,? aka everything.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/laine-it-feels-like-hockey-is-really-hard-right-now~1248113 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/laine-it-feels-like-hockey-is-really-hard-right-now~1248113)
Quote from: The Zipp on November 02, 2017, 03:30:45 PM
need to get this dude on track...Ehlers is filling in nicely but need a 100% Laine to win consistently..
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Patrick Laine brutally honest about low confidence he has right now. Asked what he?s struggling with he said ?ice hockey,? aka everything.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/laine-it-feels-like-hockey-is-really-hard-right-now~1248113 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/laine-it-feels-like-hockey-is-really-hard-right-now~1248113)
That stinks.
He actually seems to be skating well, I've noticed him defensively a couple of times. He simply isn't getting set up to score like he was last season.
Quote from: Jesse on November 02, 2017, 04:35:51 PM
That stinks.
He actually seems to be skating well, I've noticed him defensively a couple of times. He simply isn't getting set up to score like he was last season.
I wonder if other teams are game planning against him which is why a lot of our other guys are looking more super-starrish than usual as of late?
Quote from: blue_or_die on November 02, 2017, 04:45:51 PM
I wonder if other teams are game planning against him which is why a lot of our other guys are looking more super-starrish than usual as of late?
Has to be part of it.
Another disallowed goal against the Jets. I am flabbergasted that the goal did not count. Momentum shift right there and the Stars score. Total BS. Not to forget Bishop smacking Lemieux in the face and Lemieux getting penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct :P
Quote from: blue_or_die on November 01, 2017, 06:06:56 PM
Yep, can't wait for that one. It'll be the first game I've attended against a division opponent so I'm expecting a great atmosphere.
Helly in net again.
I stand corrected seems like a very lively crowd tonight at the barn
Crappy late period farts goal
FEFE!
Crazy pace to this game. No stoppages.
Connor with a lame penalty shot - got away from him...
Jets win !!!
Nice little points run here...this will be great for springtime standings.
The Wild beat up on the Habs last night........ Carey Price looks lost out there. Gotta keep up the pace as the Habs aren't very good right now. Coyotes, Vegas, and Dallas next week.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on November 03, 2017, 12:55:21 AM
Another disallowed goal against the Jets. I am flabbergasted that the goal did not count. Momentum shift right there and the Stars score. Total BS. Not to forget Bishop smacking Lemieux in the face and Lemieux getting penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct :P
Reffing was an absolute farce. Bishop stuck his stick in front of Sheif's skate, then Sheif was pushed laterally by the defence. Shot was glove side. What a joke.
On a positive note, Jets have become a lot stronger on the forcheck. Nice to see Laine got one.
Officiating was absolutely baffling on another disallowed goal and the Lemieux penalty. How does taking a punch in the face from a goalie warrant a penalty? ???
Good game otherwise, though. Scheifele and Wheeler had nice chemistry, Laine finally gets a goal, and the special teams were clicking. Hellebuyck had another strong outing.
From twitter:
Stars coach Ken Hitchcock says Jets may be playing the best hockey of any Central Div. team. ?They look like a pack of wolves right now.?
That is exactly what I hope this team can be and continue. - fast and mean and will make you pay for your mistakes - and doing it as a team...
let's keep it going - lock the points away in the standings
Such a fun time at the Phone Booth last night!!! Goals, fights, penalty shot, hat trick, controversy. Had it all.
Sure is feeling like we are for real right now, isn't it?
Anyone know what the record is for longest time without a whistle in the NHL? I can't remember a game that I watched get going longer than what we saw yesterday. Think it was close to 10 minutes of solid play...that has to be pretty rare.
Quote from: The Zipp on November 03, 2017, 01:44:23 PM
Anyone know what the record is for longest time without a whistle in the NHL? I can't remember a game that I watched get going longer than what we saw yesterday. Think it was close to 10 minutes of solid play...that has to be pretty rare.
I think it's around 15 minutes
Quote from: Colton on November 03, 2017, 04:49:01 PM
I think it's around 15 minutes
Thanks - that's crazy, apparently last night was 10:31 which is pretty neat..
@renlavoietva
Lower body injury for Carey Price. Al Montoya vs #jets #tvasports
I wonder if Mason gets the start tomorrow.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 03, 2017, 06:18:25 PM
I wonder if Mason gets the start tomorrow.
I would have said no, but with Price out we may use this opportunity to get him in. But there's also a back-to-back coming after the Montreal game isn't there?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 03, 2017, 06:18:25 PM
I wonder if Mason gets the start tomorrow.
I'm not really sure I would understand it if they did. I've never bought into #1 Mason, #2 Hellebuyck, and it's certainly not a platoon. IMO, unless it's b2b or the hot goalie is overworked, you keep starting the hot goalie. I feel like putting in Mason would just be a nice gesture at this point. I think Helle is our guy.
Quote from: blue_or_die on November 03, 2017, 06:32:23 PM
I'm not really sure I would understand it if they did. I've never bought into #1 Mason, #2 Hellebuyck, and it's certainly not a platoon. IMO, unless it's b2b or the hot goalie is overworked, you keep starting the hot goalie. I feel like putting in Mason would just be a nice gesture at this point. I think Helle is our guy.
I think it's also important not to over work Helle early in the season. If we keep going like this, we want to keep him strong for a play off push.
And Mason did redeem himself in his last start.
Quote from: Jesse on November 03, 2017, 07:36:06 PM
I think it's also important not to over work Helle early in the season. If we keep going like this, we want to keep him strong for a play off push.
And Mason did redeem himself in his last start.
Yeah I understand the overworking thing, I just don?t think we have overworked him yet. I don?t have a hate-on for Mason, just think Helle is clearly better.
We need Mason to get his stuff together and be a help to Helly. Helly has looked good so far but still need good mentor to take the next step.
I am curious as to what Masons attitude is right now. He was nominated starting goalie before training camp by Chevy, was he not?
Quote from: blue_or_die on November 03, 2017, 10:39:38 PM
Yeah I understand the overworking thing, I just don?t think we have overworked him yet. I don?t have a hate-on for Mason, just think Helle is clearly better.
Agreed 100%
I just don?t want Helle to have 70-something starts at the end of the season, so throw Mason a bone here and there (beyond the back-to-Back games), in order to conserve that season strength.
Quote from: blue_or_die on November 03, 2017, 10:39:38 PM
Yeah I understand the overworking thing, I just don?t think we have overworked him yet. I don?t have a hate-on for Mason, just think Helle is clearly better.
No question who the better goalie is so far this season. But the Habs are struggling, the Jets are playing very well, and this seems like a good time to get Mason back on the ice, IMO.
But Hellebuyck's starting, so nevermind. LOL :D
Lots of Habs jerseys in the arena.... yuck. Hopefully they all go home sad.
How did we manage to get outshot 50-23 by Montreal and blow a 2 goal lead in the third period ?
this was certainly one night when pure hustle & hunger to be on top of the opponent came out ahead.
No doubt the Jets have & had the best top 6 vs the Habs but that just didn't matter ...... our foe beat us to the puck & jumped on the mistakes
........ such as Buff's inability to clear our end & believe it was Enstrom's error behind our net & voila ----- OT loss.
Quote from: Jockitch on November 05, 2017, 07:30:42 PM
this was certainly one night when pure hustle & hunger to be on top of the opponent came out ahead.
No doubt the Jets have & had the best top 6 vs the Habs but that just didn't matter ...... our foe beat us to the puck & jumped on the mistakes
........ such as Buff's inability to clear our end & believe it was Enstrom's error behind our net & voila ----- OT loss.
That was a horrible non call for interference for Buff by the refs. What really hurt was the needless cross-check by Myers that gave them the power play.
Very good points for sure
Another impressive win over a division rival.
Scheifele starts and ends the scoring, Laine pots another in his third straight game, and Wheeler gets four apples. Hellebuyck was a beauty again.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 07, 2017, 03:09:53 AM
Another impressive win over a division rival.
Scheifele starts and ends the scoring, Laine pots another in his third straight game, and Wheeler gets four apples. Hellebuyck was a beauty again.
Solid road win I would like to add as well.
Firmly entrenched in second place in the central
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on November 07, 2017, 03:13:53 AM
Solid road win I would like to add as well.
Firmly entrenched in second place in the central
No more "fire PoMo" comments from you is nice, too. ;D
Fun fact: Hellebuyck is 8-0-2 so far this season. Incredible.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 07, 2017, 03:16:18 AM
No more "fire PoMo" comments from you is nice, too. ;D
Fun fact: Hellebuyck is 8-0-2 so far this season. Incredible.
With a 2.12 GAA and a 0.936 save %
Just incredible.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 07, 2017, 03:16:18 AM
No more "fire PoMo" comments from you is nice, too. ;D
Fun fact: Hellebuyck is 8-0-2 so far this season. Incredible.
Seems too good to be true!
Great run by the Jets right now, and Hellebuyck is outstanding! Hopefully they don't have too much fun in Vegas ;D
On another note, I am so confused as to what is goaltender interference. I thought for sure, based on the no goal that they called on Scheifele in the first game between Dallas and WPG, that last night's goal by Dallas would also be a no goal. I just don't get it. The Jets have had some bad breaks and bad calls go against them in the past four or so games, but it's nice to see them not collapsing. Except for the Montreal game, they have been playing very well.
Quote from: Jesse on November 07, 2017, 12:02:33 PM
With a 2.12 GAA and a 0.936 save %
Just incredible.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on November 07, 2017, 01:34:26 PM
Seems too good to be true!
That NET360 goalie camp he attended over the summer is paying off in a big way for him and for the team.
Only LA and TB have less losses then the Jets.
Wheeler 3rd in NHL scoring with 21 points in 14 games. 13 in his last 5!
Hellebuyck now 3rd in SV% with .936 and 4th in GAA with 2.12!
I take it there's no way Kyle Connor gets sent back down, eh? Fitting in like a glove.
Quote from: blue_or_die on November 07, 2017, 03:01:02 PM
I take it there's no way Kyle Connor gets sent back down, eh? Fitting in like a glove.
Probably not. When's Perreault due back?
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on November 07, 2017, 03:10:47 PM
Probably not. When's Perreault due back?
I hear at least another week.
Connor wont go down anyway
Tonights game is Neal audition for Jets trade
Trouba and a 6th rounder
For
Neal and grade B at worst prospect prefer a D and a 3rd rounder!!!
Neal needs to agree in extension of 2-3 years to happen?
lol
GO JETS GO
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on November 11, 2017, 02:28:06 AM
Tonight?s game is Neal?s audition for Jets trade
Trouble and a 6th rounder
For
Neal and grade B at worst prospect prefer a D and there next 3rd rounder!!!
Neal needs to agree in extension of 2-3 years to happen?
lol
GO JETS GO
Uh, what? ???
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on November 11, 2017, 10:18:04 PM
fixed thoughts?
The Jets don't need another forward. And trading Trouba would be just stupid.
Nice bounceback in Phoenix tonight. And Mason gets his first W as a Jet.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 12, 2017, 05:53:44 AM
The Jets don't need another forward. And trading Trouba would be just stupid.
Nice bounceback in Phoenix tonight. And Mason gets his first W as a Jet.
That is only if Trouba dose not sign wanna resign and stay. With Neal would be awesome top 9, best in the league top 9. Pittsburgh loads up on scoring punch all the time. Why can?t we?
Nice to see Mason win yesterday
He played solid
Fefe continues to amaze
Great to see Mason pick up his first W. That was a long time coming for him.
Sheifele and Connor and Laine, oh my.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on November 12, 2017, 01:42:07 PM
That is only if Trouba dose not sign wanna resign and stay. With Neal would be awesome top 9, best in the league top 9. Pittsburgh loads up on scoring punch all the time. Why can?t we?
The Jets have more than enough forward depth. Adding another one with a $5M cap hit doesn't make any sense. Scoring isn't necessarily a problem for the Jets, anyway.
If Trouba does want out, he should be moved for another defenseman.
Jets are playing great. Looks like they've finally learned how to stay out of the penalty box.
If only Buff would bring it every game. What does it take to motivate that guy?
Having Perrault on the third line is going to be awesome...
Quote from: theaardvark on November 13, 2017, 06:21:20 PM
Having Perrault on the third line is going to be awesome...
Agreed. Should give the Jets three legit scoring lines.
to an earlier comment or two ........ I feel that if Buff or Trouba were to be moved, that Chevy needs to bring in a Top LH shot Dman.
Though I think the world of Morrissey, he & Kulikov are not relevant when thinking of PP shot from the point.
For me, Meyers & Trouba could certainly be productive on the PP but a left shot Dman is missing ........ oh & Buff is overused in my opinion.
Bit disappointed that Mason is not in goal tonight, as I think he deserves it & why not HellB vs the Flyers ...... as I don't buy into Mason should play vs his former team
CONCERN: the lack of offensive results, at even strength, from Little (at +/- 0) centering Ehlers & Laine who are both at -1.
Little is super at faceoffs but as a line I don't see the gelling, with control of puck & multiple chances created, per game .......... all 3 hopefully will blossom tonight
Quote from: Jockitch on November 14, 2017, 07:14:06 PM
Bit disappointed that Mason is not in goal tonight, as I think he deserves it & why not HellB vs the Flyers ...... as I don't buy into Mason should play vs his former team
I think it makes sense to give the nod to the starting goalie after the backup got his game in, in the b2b on the weekend. I think Mason wants to play his former team and they will give that to him.
I think Mason needed a W to get his rhythm/confidence going against his former team. Otherwise, I'd say Helly would have gotten the start.
Good. Beat a team we should have beaten.
I know we saw this demonstrated Saturday, but my goodness Arizona is an awful team.
Quote from: blue_or_die on November 15, 2017, 01:19:05 PM
Good. Beat a team we should have beaten.
I know we saw this demonstrated Saturday, but my goodness Arizona is an awful team.
Yeah, the Jets still seem to play down to their opponent at times. But when they did turn it up last night, they made their opportunities count.
Loved the ceremony for Ducky. I can't wait to see who's next.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 15, 2017, 01:32:42 PM
Yeah, the Jets still seem to play down to their opponent at times. But when they did turn it up last night, they made their opportunities count.
Loved the ceremony for Ducky. I can't wait to see who's next.
I think it might be Steen, but that's just a guess. Maybe some older fans will have a better idea of who it ought to be. They appear to be going chronologically through the eras, so Steen was a part of the Hawerchuck glory days and would fit in being inducted second to him.
Those banners, along with the Moose ones, sure do look sexy hanging from the rafters at our barn.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 15, 2017, 01:32:42 PM
Loved the ceremony for Ducky. I can't wait to see who's next.
This is where it gets
confusing weird. Kovalchuk? :D
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on November 15, 2017, 05:24:29 PM
This is where it gets confusing. Kovalchuk?
No, it isn't confusing. There's no rationale at this point in time honouring a player who never wore a Jets jersey, be it 1.0 or 2.0, over actual individuals who did play hockey here.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 15, 2017, 07:44:56 PM
No, it isn't confusing. There's no rationale at this point in time honouring a player who never wore a Jets jersey, be it 1.0 or 2.0, over actual individuals who did play hockey here.
Agreed - hoist up a Ray Neufeld banner before Kovalchuk...
I am not confused in the least.
Quote from: blue_or_die on November 15, 2017, 01:41:58 PM
I think it might be Steen, but that's just a guess. Maybe some older fans will have a better idea of who it ought to be. They appear to be going chronologically through the eras, so Steen was a part of the Hawerchuck glory days and would fit in being inducted second to him.
Those banners, along with the Moose ones, sure do look sexy hanging from the rafters at our barn.
Steen had some domestic violence issues recently, so I think TNSE will avoid him, because of the controversy that will follow.
Quote from: gbill2004 on November 15, 2017, 08:17:46 PM
Steen had some domestic violence issues recently, so I think TNSE will avoid him, because of the controversy that will follow.
Bobby Hull.
But yeah, I forgot about that.
Was real pleased to see how well HellB played last night ........... he made multiple stops that were so crucial.
If he had been a bit off earlier in game, then the Coyote confidence level would sure have made this game a tougher one to win.
Hooray for Little ..... nice finish
Quote from: blue_or_die on November 15, 2017, 01:19:05 PM
Good. Beat a team we should have beaten.
I know we saw this demonstrated Saturday, but my goodness Arizona is an awful team.
I think the Moose may be able to keep up them right now.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 15, 2017, 07:44:56 PM
No, it isn't confusing. There's no rationale at this point in time honouring a player who never wore a Jets jersey, be it 1.0 or 2.0, over actual individuals who did play hockey here.
I don't disagree, and I understand why the Jets are adding members into their hall of fame, but I will point out that the Arizona Coyotes have retired Bobby Hull's number.
Edit: Just fact checked this and looks like Hull's number 9 was put back into circulation when the team was sold a couple of years ago. Clayton Keller is currently #9.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on November 16, 2017, 02:25:20 PM
I don't disagree, and I understand why the Jets are adding members into their hall of fame, but I will point out that the Arizona Coyotes have retired Bobby Hull's number.
Edit: Just fact checked this and looks like Hull's number 9 was put back into circulation when the team was sold a couple of years ago. Clayton Keller is currently #9.
And I will point out that I don't think TNSE cares what the Coyotes do/did.
I doubt we ever see any honours given to Thrashers players.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on November 16, 2017, 02:25:20 PM
I don't disagree, and I understand why the Jets are adding members into their hall of fame, but I will point out that the Arizona Coyotes have retired Bobby Hull's number.
Edit: Just fact checked this and looks like Hull's number 9 was put back into circulation when the team was sold a couple of years ago. Clayton Keller is currently #9.
TNSE doesn't give two rips about the Coyotes or what that joke of a franchise does. The organization who brought the NHL back here cares about one thing: hockey in Winnipeg. As such, it has decided to embrace the history of hockey in Winnipeg, which means honouring those who played for the previous iteration from 1972-1996.
As for the current iteration, Ilya Kovalupchuk is irrelevant to it. Same as any other player who was at Atlanta Thrasher but never a Winnipeg Jet. As I said in my previous post, there is no confusion whatsoever.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 16, 2017, 03:20:11 PM
TNSE doesn't give two rips about the Coyotes or what that joke of a franchise does. The organization who brought the NHL back here cares about one thing: hockey in Winnipeg. As such, it has decided to embrace the history of hockey in Winnipeg, which means honouring those who played for the previous iteration from 1972-1996.
As for the current iteration, Ilya Kovalupchuk is irrelevant to it. Same as any other player who was at Atlanta Thrasher but never a Winnipeg Jet. As I said in my previous post, there is no confusion whatsoever.
Couldn't agree more. Only players that suited up for the Jets 1.0 or WHA Jets (or the future Jets 2.0) deserve any consideration to to honored ala Hawerchuk the other night. Steen should likely be next followed by Selanne. Selanne may not a played here for long but the impression he left on the city speaks for itself.
I always looked at the Coyotes honoring Hull, Steen, and Hawerchuk as kind of a joke. They were trotted out to Arizona to boost ticket sales.
Anyone else worthy of being honoured from Jets 1.0 besides Steen and Selanne? Opinions from older fans who remember that era well? I can think of some fan favourites, but I wouldn't want to water it down. Might be good to stick with the 6 banners until enough time has passed for Jets 2.0 to be considered, when Blake Wheeler is in his 70s. Maybe we can hang some division, conference, or league championship banners up in the meantime to fill in the lull ;)
I crossed out the word confusing from my original post, it was a bad choice of words and makes me look stupid. :D
Not really confused, but I thought Kovalchuk might be an interesting debate just based on what the Coyotes franchise did by honouring players that never played in that city. You guy are right, what Arizona did is irrelevant and quite frankly weird. :D I can't see the Jets flying him in from Russia, having him standing at center ice in a city he's never visited, as they raise an Atlanta Thrashers banner to the rafters of Bell MTS Place. :D
Looks like Mathias is coming out for Perreault. Good choice, Mathias has had some recent chances but can never seem to finish.
How long does he stay on the "4th line"? It's going to be tough to take away minutes from Copp/Lowry/Tanev, those guys are forechecking so well lately.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on November 16, 2017, 05:19:49 PM
I crossed out the word confusing from my original post, it was a bad choice of words and makes me look stupid. :D
Not really confused, but I thought Kovalchuk might be an interesting debate just based on what the Coyotes franchise did by honouring players that never played in that city. You guy are right, what Arizona did is irrelevant and quite frankly weird. :D I can't see the Jets flying him in from Russia, having him standing at center ice in a city he's never visited, as they raise an Atlanta Thrashers banner to the rafters of Bell MTS Place. :D
Kovalchuk definitely visited here few times. As a member of the New Jersey devils. I saw him live at least twice.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on November 16, 2017, 05:27:25 PM
Looks like Mathias is coming out for Perreault. Good choice, Mathias has had some recent chances but can never seem to finish.
How long does he stay on the "4th line"? It's going to be tough to take away minutes from Copp/Lowry/Tanev, those guys are forechecking so well lately.
No it will take no tie away for the excellent 3rd line. He?s just not gonna see the ice that much.
Hellebuck in net and gives up a juicy rebound. Need to stay on a roll ...
+ bone head Buff makes an appearance not to mention a pure PK garbage. No puck pressure never works!
Quote from: The Zipp on November 17, 2017, 12:16:38 AM
Hellebuck in net and gives up a juicy rebound. Need to stay on a roll ...
Jets are looking slow and outta sorts so far tonight. Not sure if I'd blame Hellebuyck for the Jets being down 2-0 after 20.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 17, 2017, 01:18:26 AM
Jets are looking slow and outta sorts so far tonight. Not sure if I'd blame Hellebuyck for the Jets being down 2-0 after 20.
Nah. Was just that first goal and the big rebound. They have looked uninspired and disinterested for lots of this game
Jets woke up. Great play to tie it up with the goalie pulled!!
Now to get that elusive OT win!!
Shootout win!!! We will take the 2 points !!
And the beat goes on with these Jets in a game we were surely about to lose. Spendid :)
It's wins like this that will push us into the playoffs this year. Much different story than last year. 4th overall at the moment in the league and second in the division! Checking the standings has never been more fun ;D
Quote from: The Zipp on November 17, 2017, 01:56:15 AM
Nah. Was just that first goal and the big rebound. They have looked uninspired and disinterested for lots of this game
Yeah, that was not a good game for the home team last night. Taking a point would've been nice but to get two after that performance is thievery at its finest.
Glad Perreault is okay, too. That hack from Gudas was disgusting and I hope Parros throws the book at that jerk.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 17, 2017, 01:15:13 PM
Yeah, that was not a good game for the home team last night. Taking a point would've been nice but to get two after that performance is thievery at its finest.
Glad Perreault is okay, too. That hack from Gudas was disgusting and I hope Parros throws the book at that jerk.
In the post game show they were calling for 10 games. IIRC he is a repeat offender who received 6 last year, so I think with this in mind 10 would be very, very generous of Parros.
Gave the edge to Flyers in who might have won but ......... super surprise tie on a beautiful pass & snap for the goal
Expect 6 for Gudas
Gudas gets an in-person hearing, which means at least 5 games: http://www.tsn.ca/gudas-offered-in-person-hearing-for-slash-1.918472 (http://www.tsn.ca/gudas-offered-in-person-hearing-for-slash-1.918472)
Quote from: blue_or_die on November 16, 2017, 04:33:55 PM
Anyone else worthy of being honoured from Jets 1.0 besides Steen and Selanne? Opinions from older fans who remember that era well? I can think of some fan favourites, but I wouldn't want to water it down. Might be good to stick with the 6 banners until enough time has passed for Jets 2.0 to be considered, when Blake Wheeler is in his 70s. Maybe we can hang some division, conference, or league championship banners up in the meantime to fill in the lull ;)
Eddie O?
Quote from: gbill2004 on November 17, 2017, 08:03:38 PM
Eddie O?
If they put him in might as put Doug "stone hands" Smail
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on November 17, 2017, 08:50:57 PM
If they put him in might as put Doug "stone hands" Smail
Doug Smail didn't have "stone hands". Jimmy Mann, ray neufeld...those guys were real stone hands.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 17, 2017, 06:02:27 PM
Gudas gets an in-person hearing, which means at least 5 games: http://www.tsn.ca/gudas-offered-in-person-hearing-for-slash-1.918472 (http://www.tsn.ca/gudas-offered-in-person-hearing-for-slash-1.918472)
It doesn't automatically set the minimum to 5 games, it just allows them to suspend the player for more than 5 games should they choose to. I don't know if there are any instances of the suspension from an in person hearing being less than 5 games though.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on November 17, 2017, 08:50:57 PM
If they put him in might as put Doug "stone hands" Smail
I thought Ray Neufeld was known as ?stone hands??
Quote from: gbill2004 on November 17, 2017, 11:33:16 PM
I thought Ray Neufeld was known as ?stone hands??
i think they both had no hands LOL
Jets look like a power house team. Laid a licking on Devils.
Climb only 2points back of the blues with a game at hand.
Great win today vs. a really good team! Hellebuyck was a monster again and the Jets' offense came to life in the middle frame.
Go Canucks Go
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on November 18, 2017, 10:07:50 PM
i think they both had no hands LOL
Jets look like a power house team. Laid a licking on Devils.
Climb only 2points back of the blues with a game at hand.
Fire everyone quick.
Its all crap
smh.
Sometimes i wonder about u
LOL
The Jets are like, really really good. I'm in disbelief.
Quote from: The Zipp on October 18, 2017, 12:59:10 PM
This team is really weird, no real identity and it seems that they don't have a sound system or aren't following what they have..they were overplayed in the first period - Mason made some good stops. I don't have a problem with Maurice giving him a shot, you need 2 goalies and he needed to get his confidence - that didn't happen...
I still think Huddy and Flaherty needed to be axed in the off-season - this division is going to be tough, last night was a winnable game at home and they were outmatched, out played. Glad I am not dropping 200+ per game to see this anymore (not that Chipman cares as there is still a huge line up of people willing to shell out big $$ for the chance of seeing some exciting offensive play from Laine, Ehlers etc.)
What a difference a few weeks makes...
Quote from: theaardvark on November 19, 2017, 06:21:30 PM
What a difference a few weeks makes...
Looks like everyone is finally buying into what the coaching staff is selling.
Enstrom expected to miss 8 weeks, Poolman re-called: http://illegalcurve.com/2017/11/19/injury-news-winnipeg-jets-tobias-enstrom-expected-to-miss-8-weeks/ (http://illegalcurve.com/2017/11/19/injury-news-winnipeg-jets-tobias-enstrom-expected-to-miss-8-weeks/)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 19, 2017, 07:00:54 PM
Looks like everyone is finally buying into what the coaching staff is selling.
Enstrom expected to miss 8 weeks, Poolman re-called: http://illegalcurve.com/2017/11/19/injury-news-winnipeg-jets-tobias-enstrom-expected-to-miss-8-weeks/ (http://illegalcurve.com/2017/11/19/injury-news-winnipeg-jets-tobias-enstrom-expected-to-miss-8-weeks/)
Blessing in disguise I beckon
Poolman time!
Quote from: Colton on November 17, 2017, 08:58:03 PM
It doesn't automatically set the minimum to 5 games, it just allows them to suspend the player for more than 5 games should they choose to. I don't know if there are any instances of the suspension from an in person hearing being less than 5 games though.
JUST IN: @NHLFlyers D Radko Gudas suspended ten games for his slash on @NHLJets F Mathieu Perreault. MORE: tsn.ca/gudas-suspende? #NHL
Well deserved, I say.
Quote from: The Zipp on November 20, 2017, 01:26:08 AM
JUST IN: @NHLFlyers D Radko Gudas suspended ten games for his slash on @NHLJets F Mathieu Perreault. MORE: tsn.ca/gudas-suspende? #NHL
GOOD!
Definition of meathead
Congrats to Parros for stepping up ......... Witkowski got 10 & now Gudas is out for the same
Quote from: theaardvark on November 19, 2017, 06:21:30 PM
What a difference a few weeks makes...
No Kidding.
I was concerned with the lack of offense, primarily.
Quote from: The Zipp on November 20, 2017, 01:26:08 AM
JUST IN: @NHLFlyers D Radko Gudas suspended ten games for his slash on @NHLJets F Mathieu Perreault. MORE: tsn.ca/gudas-suspende? #NHL
I like how upfront the NHL is. There's a video explaining the thought process and the reasoning for the final result. The article states the exact amount of the fine. That's good accountability. In the CFL the league just says 'we fined the guy for an undisclosed amount'.
These next 4 games will go a long long way to determining our playoff aspirations. I would personally be satisfied going 2-2 if somehow we can manage to beat the Preds tonight.
Lose and we're 1 point ahead. Win and we're 5 points ahead. Not too mention American Thanksgiving is only 3 days away.
Quote from: JMT21 on November 20, 2017, 08:01:33 PM
These next 4 games will go a long long way to determining our playoff aspirations. I would personally be satisfied going 2-2 if somehow we can manage to beat the Preds tonight.
Lose and we're 1 point ahead. Win and we're 5 points ahead. Not too mention American Thanksgiving is only 3 days away.
that might be over-stating it a bit..there is still lots that can happen in the season...
Not the greatest game tonight....some sloppy play in our own end. Maybe Enstrom is missed more than I thought.
The middle frame killed 'em... But they're making it interesting late in this one.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 21, 2017, 02:44:33 AM
The middle frame killed 'em... But they're making it interesting late in this one.
Yah. Just outta time. Nashville is a good team.
Quote from: The Zipp on November 21, 2017, 02:51:49 AM
Yah. Just outta time. Nashville is a good team.
Best home PP in the league, IIRC. And they made the Jets pay tonight in that regard.
Ah, well... On to the next.
Can't win 'em all. Nash is a very good team. They had their hiccups but overall didn't play a bad game, just weren't the better team.
Correction ;)
Quote from: blue_or_die on November 19, 2017, 04:21:22 PM
Connor Hellybyuck is like, really really good. I'm in disbelief.
Quote from: gbill2004 on November 22, 2017, 12:33:30 PM
Correction ;)
Definitely, reliable and clutch goaltending is the difference between this year and last year. We were always able to pot it in the back of the net, but had to win games 5-4. No argument here.
Is it time to trade Trouba yet? Keep hearing that he won't sign a long term deal, he doesn't want to be here, etc... maybe its time to move on from him?
I know, Enstrom is down, and if we traded Trouba, we're one injury away from Melchiori... which isn't a horrible thing, depending on what you get back for him.
If you got a solid 2nd pairing LD with a good contract, a prospect and a decent pick, I think that's be pretty good... and you eliminate the conversation "does he want to be here", which makes the team look bad...
Quote from: theaardvark on November 22, 2017, 03:56:31 PM
Is it time to trade Trouba yet? Keep hearing that he won't sign a long term deal, he doesn't want to be here, etc... maybe its time to move on from him?
I know, Enstrom is down, and if we traded Trouba, we're one injury away from Melchiori... which isn't a horrible thing, depending on what you get back for him.
If you got a solid 2nd pairing LD with a good contract, a prospect and a decent pick, I think that's be pretty good... and you eliminate the conversation "does he want to be here", which makes the team look bad...
Move on from Trouba? Are you crazy? If we're forced to deal him when his UFA deadline finally gets closer that's one thing, but in no way should we 'move on' from one of our best players just because he hasn't signed a long-term deal yet.
Quote from: theaardvark on November 22, 2017, 03:56:31 PM
Is it time to trade Trouba yet? Keep hearing that he won't sign a long term deal, he doesn't want to be here, etc... maybe its time to move on from him?
I know, Enstrom is down, and if we traded Trouba, we're one injury away from Melchiori... which isn't a horrible thing, depending on what you get back for him.
If you got a solid 2nd pairing LD with a good contract, a prospect and a decent pick, I think that's be pretty good... and you eliminate the conversation "does he want to be here", which makes the team look bad...
Hmm, haven't heard anything about that. I really hope it's reporters being bored and he signs long term this summer.
Jacob Trouba is the bobble head they are giving away at one of the last home games this season, so Chevy knows something we don't. He's here for the longhaul. ;D
Quote from: theaardvark on November 22, 2017, 03:56:31 PM
Is it time to trade Trouba yet? Keep hearing that he won't sign a long term deal, he doesn't want to be here, etc... maybe its time to move on from him?
I know, Enstrom is down, and if we traded Trouba, we're one injury away from Melchiori... which isn't a horrible thing, depending on what you get back for him.
If you got a solid 2nd pairing LD with a good contract, a prospect and a decent pick, I think that's be pretty good... and you eliminate the conversation "does he want to be here", which makes the team look bad...
No, it's not time to trade Trouba. What
credible source has said he won't sign a long-term deal or that he doesn't want to be here?
And no, the "does he want to be here" conversation doesn't make anyone look bad, especially the team.
Where do you come up with this stuff? ???
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 22, 2017, 05:36:50 PM
No, it's not time to trade Trouba. What credible source has said he won't sign a long-term deal or that he doesn't want to be here?
And no, the "does he want to be here" conversation doesn't make anyone look bad, especially the team.
Where do you come up with this stuff? ???
This is hardly making stuff up. Trouba sat out games last season asking for a trade. This isn't some rumour, it's what we all witnessed.
I hope we can resign Trouba, but I hope that Chevy has a clear understanding of Trouba's intentions (I'm sure he does) prior to the FA deadline so we can deal him if we need to.
Quote from: Jesse on November 22, 2017, 05:42:42 PM
This is hardly making stuff up. Trouba sat out games last season asking for a trade. This isn't some rumour, it's what we all witnessed.
I hope we can resign Trouba, but I hope that Chevy has a clear understanding of Trouba's intentions (I'm sure he does) prior to the FA deadline so we can deal him if we need to.
It is making stuff up. If you want to be specific about it, officially he held out for two reasons:
1) He wanted to play on the right side
2) He wanted to play in the top 4 (or get top 4 minutes, however you look at it)
That was his official stance all the way through the holdout. He never said he 'didn't want to be here (in Winnipeg specifically) or anything like that. You may find rumours or speculations on that, but he nor his agent every listed that as the reason.
I too haven't heard a peep about any of this Trouba not wanting to play here or sign a long term deal stuff... There was definitely lots of talk about that last fall when he was holding out but I haven't heard anything negative since then. I'm not buying it.
Going to be tough to stay up for the late game tonight. UGh, 9:30 start time. Friday's game in the afternoon is weird too. I get that it's a holiday in the US, but when one of the teams is Canadian (non-holiday team), you would think they would try and somewhat accommodate us too. Ah well. Time to get some wins in California.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on November 22, 2017, 05:56:03 PM
It is making stuff up. If you want to be specific about it, officially he held out for two reasons:
1) He wanted to play on the right side
2) He wanted to play in the top 4 (or get top 4 minutes, however you look at it)
That was his official stance all the way through the holdout. He never said he 'didn't want to be here (in Winnipeg specifically) or anything like that. You may find rumours or speculations on that, but he nor his agent every listed that as the reason.
It is true that those were his stated reasons, but you also have to take into account that when an agent is negotiating through the media, you should probably take his comments with a grain of salt.
I certainly haven't made my mind up one way or the other, but given that he has previously held out while asking for a trade, I'm going to keep my mind open until he signs on the dotted line.
Quote from: Jesse on November 22, 2017, 07:23:19 PM
It is true that those were his stated reasons, but you also have to take into account that when an agent is negotiating through the media, you should probably take his comments with a grain of salt.
I certainly haven't made my mind up one way or the other, but given that he has previously held out while asking for a trade, I'm going to keep my mind open until he signs on the dotted line.
I think a lot of fences have been mended since. Purely my opinion but I think Trouba feels his a-hole agent embarrassed him last year. His agent wanted something like 10 years @7.5 mill. Chevy rightfully balked at that but his play will dictate his worth and he will get just that. Maybe even a premium for playing a position in particularly high demand.
Quote from: Jesse on November 22, 2017, 05:42:42 PM
This is hardly making stuff up. Trouba sat out games last season asking for a trade. This isn't some rumour, it's what we all witnessed.
I hope we can resign Trouba, but I hope that Chevy has a clear understanding of Trouba's intentions (I'm sure he does) prior to the FA deadline so we can deal him if we need to.
Read Aardsy's post again and I think you'll better understand my reply to it. Trouba has since signed a contract and has played in his desired role, quite well I might add. Has he expressed dissatisfaction since then? Nope. Has he requested a trade since then? Nope. What happened a year ago isn't relevant at this point in time. He seems pretty content from what I can tell and I won't speculate on things one way or another.
Quote from: theaardvark on November 22, 2017, 03:56:31 PM
Is it time to trade Trouba yet? Keep hearing that he won't sign a long term deal, he doesn't want to be here, etc... maybe its time to move on from him?
This bolded part seems to indicate something in the present. So, I asked for a credible source. I didn't accuse him of making up anything, but his initial comment seems like nothing more than him trying to stir the pot. It's pointless and unnecessary.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on November 22, 2017, 06:32:14 PM
I too haven't heard a peep about any of this Trouba not wanting to play here or sign a long term deal stuff... There was definitely lots of talk about that last fall when he was holding out but I haven't heard anything negative since then. I'm not buying it.
Nobody is. Because there's nothing to it.
Anyway, Mason gets the start tonight in LA.
sure hope the "fences have been mended" if they indeed were even torn.
If those were the 2 basic requests Trouba had, as reported, then my thought still was & is now ......... OR did he tell Chevy ...... he takes his skates & hits the road
That to me would yell ........ I'm hear for the short term Count me as a Fan of Trouba's but a nervous fan.
Meanwhile ..... Trouba leads, with Kulikov, in Dmen Even Strength points .... at 6 (he only has 7 total) but has the most shots on the net of our Dmen at 48.
Time on ice is 2nd for the D at a respectable average of just under 22 minutes, with Buff at over 24.
Quote from: theaardvark on November 22, 2017, 03:56:31 PM
Is it time to trade Trouba yet? Keep hearing that he won't sign a long term deal, he doesn't want to be here, etc... maybe its time to move on from him?
I know, Enstrom is down, and if we traded Trouba, we're one injury away from Melchiori... which isn't a horrible thing, depending on what you get back for him.
If you got a solid 2nd pairing LD with a good contract, a prospect and a decent pick, I think that's be pretty good... and you eliminate the conversation "does he want to be here", which makes the team look bad...
Where have you heard that lately?
Can't imagine trading Trouba is on the table. His play this year doesn't warrant 7M + but that is subject to change. If a trade does happen... I'm sure Chevy will get everything he wants in return. I also have no doubt Chevy would match any RFA offer should other teams try it.
FWIW... First time Jets have beaten LA in regulation in LA. Lord only knows where this team can go if Mason plays like he did last time and Helly maintains his form. 8)
Didn't catch the late game but watched the highlights this morning. Great bounce back after the Nashville mess!
i didn't see any of the 3rd period - had to sleep, but it looks like the Jets played most of it with a one goal lead - not easy to do on the road vs the Kings...
Well done - keep it rolling and racking up the points!! 2 points in November count the same as 2 in Spring!!
I too conked out for the third period. Woke up at 3, checked the score, saw that we won, back to sleep.
Some interesting comments from Maurice on Trouba about training him to be playing against the top players but that last night saw that he wasn't having a great game, so bumped him to a different pairing. He hasn't been in his finest form this season, but hopefully he gets things going soon. Nice to see the second line strike again for a goal. I feel like Laine and Ehlers have better chemistry with Scheifele than Little, but how do you break up the Wheeler-Scheifele-Connor line? They are so good.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on November 23, 2017, 01:39:47 PM
I too conked out for the third period. Woke up at 3, checked the score, saw that we won, back to sleep.
Some interesting comments from Maurice on Trouba about training him to be playing against the top players but that last night saw that he wasn't having a great game, so bumped him to a different pairing. He hasn't been in his finest form this season, but hopefully he gets things going soon. Nice to see the second line strike again for a goal. I feel like Laine and Ehlers have better chemistry with Scheifele than Little, but how do you break up the Wheeler-Scheifele-Connor line? They are so good.
They are very good, but I wonder if they would be even better with the other guys? I mean if we did Laine-Scheif-Ehlers as our top line I bet Shceif could really ignite the euros. Then Connor-Little-Wheeler as the second line. Little and Wheeler have heaps of experience and chemistry together, and can continue mentoring young Connor.
Quote from: blue_or_die on November 23, 2017, 02:37:36 PM
They are very good, but I wonder if they would be even better with the other guys? I mean if we did Laine-Scheif-Ehlers as our top line I bet Shceif could really ignite the euros. Then Connor-Little-Wheeler as the second line. Little and Wheeler have heaps of experience and chemistry together, and can continue mentoring young Connor.
I was listening to a Maurice interview where he was talking about keeping the top line together because Connor is doing so well there, and he doesn't want to do anything to disrupt that. He was open to the possibility if he needs to, but he's going to keep that as a "break-the-glass" move.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on November 22, 2017, 05:32:29 PM
Jacob Trouba is the bobble head they are giving away at one of the last home games this season, so Chevy knows something we don't. He's here for the longhaul. ;D
The team and management have to treat Trouba like he is going to be a fixture here for the long haul... of course they are going to honor him as much as possible, and present a united front that he is going to be a Jet long term.
Far from it being a sure thing, and his 2 year, $3mil per bridge deal after holding out and losing speaks volumes. He left at least $7million over those two years on the table. He could have easily signed a 7 year, $6.5 mil per deal... to make that money up he'd have to sign a 5 year $7.75 mil per deal...
Will he get that? Maybe, on the open market.
FYI... SportsNet poll...
10% Think he stays, 66% think he gets traded this season, 6k people voting...
https://www.opinionstage.com/polls/2399142/poll?sembed=1&wid=0 (https://www.opinionstage.com/polls/2399142/poll?sembed=1&wid=0)
Quote from: theaardvark on November 23, 2017, 03:19:45 PM
FYI... SportsNet poll...
10% Think he stays, 66% think he gets traded this season, 6k people voting...
https://www.opinionstage.com/polls/2399142/poll?sembed=1&wid=0 (https://www.opinionstage.com/polls/2399142/poll?sembed=1&wid=0)
Well, this means nothing.
Quote from: Jesse on November 23, 2017, 02:53:08 PM
I was listening to a Maurice interview where he was talking about keeping the top line together because Connor is doing so well there, and he doesn't want to do anything to disrupt that. He was open to the possibility if he needs to, but he's going to keep that as a "break-the-glass" move.
I get that logic but I don't want to see Laine and Ehlers dare-I-say wasted on a line that isn't working. The "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" line doesn't work here I don't think because second line is broken. I think there's a very clear divide between our top 6 and bottom 6 and most combinations within each will work. I like Connor but having him get top line minutes isn't as important as having Laine and Ehlers, our two most dynamic players, in the best possible position to produce. Like I said, I think Scheif will be better for setting them up vs. Little, and that Little and Wheeler are already a known commodity as a pair and have the vet experience to continue with Connor's success.
If we lose a few games, I think this will happen, and if we don't it will stay like this which isn't exactly a bad thing either. Who knows, maybe the second line is just in a slump and ready to explode any minute.
Quote from: Jesse on November 23, 2017, 04:38:38 PM
Well, this means nothing.
Probably mostly leafs fans voting too, and they barely can think rationally about their own team never mind any other team.
Jets are rollin'
Fun to watch them play when they are flying around
Another nice tilt from a Jets prospective
Seeing Perry sulking head down on the bench after the game was pricelessg!
Hellebuck solid as ever.
Buff playing inspired, he really really wants that first goal!
Ehlers had a particularly strong game
I think teams around the league will be happy that Chiarot dished out to Perry what he regularly does to other players. Wasn?t it his slash that broke Perreault?s wrist last year? Guy?s a loser. Third overall and continuing to steamroll other teams. So awesome!
NHL Player Safety:
Winnipeg?s Ben Chiarot fined $3,763.44, the maximum allowable under the CBA, for butt-ending Anaheim?s Corey Perry.
I?m okay with that. It didn?t look like he intentionally used his stick but was rather using his glove to smack Perry and the end of his stick was there.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on November 25, 2017, 05:46:56 PM
NHL Player Safety:
Winnipeg?s Ben Chiarot fined $3,763.44, the maximum allowable under the CBA, for butt-ending Anaheim?s Corey Perry.
I?m okay with that. It didn?t look like he intentionally used his stick but was rather using his glove to smack Perry and the end of his stick was there.
I'm betting he makes that back, and more, in drinks and dinners bought for him by Perry haters...
Hellybuck > Mason
Too many rebounds given up by Mason
Well, that was disappointing...
Mason went out with an upper body injury. Haven't seen any updates of his timeline of how long he will be out for, or even the extent of his injury.
Quote from: BomberPride on November 27, 2017, 01:32:02 PM
Mason went out with an upper body injury. Haven't seen any updates of his timeline of how long he will be out for, or even the extent of his injury.
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Comrie time?
Uh oh...could this be two bad games in a row??
Off to a real bad start. Hope they can turn the momentum to their favour soon.
Quote from: blue_or_die on November 28, 2017, 12:40:06 AM
Off to a real bad start. Hope they can turn the momentum to their favour soon.
lol awesome.
Jets are pouring it on...looks good...wild losing their composure
Remember when we were losing 2-0?
There are so many things the Jets are doing so much better at this year, and it's making a huge difference.
First game of the year I attended the jets lose 7-2 to the leafs, this one was a much better outcome! Only complaint is they should've let a few more soft shots hit Hellebuyck, 2 goals on only 19 shots is going to hurt his save % lol!
Interesting stat they posted after the 2nd period ........ Jets only had a single shot block vs 11 by the Wild already...... score was 4 - 2 at that time
Game ended at 16 blocks by Wild & 8 by the Jets ------ Domination by Jets
Personal wish ....... to see Perrault & Armia with Lowry. Hendricks is a team player but let him play with the less gifted Copp & Tanev.
Quote from: Jockitch on November 28, 2017, 08:22:36 PM
Interesting stat they posted after the 2nd period ........ Jets only had a single shot block vs 11 by the Wild already...... score was 4 - 2 at that time
Game ended at 16 blocks by Wild & 8 by the Jets ------ Domination by Jets
Personal wish ....... to see Perrault & Armia with Lowry. Hendricks is a team player but let him play with the less gifted Copp & Tanev.
Not sure we want to mess up our "fourth line" after a game like that, but I agree with your proposal. I love having Matty P as a floater forward who can play like a top 6. He will ignite any line he plays on. Get him on a line with Laine somehow lol.
Not sure if this belongs in the Jets thread but.....
Moose won last night 8-1.
Hutch made 47 saves, J.C. Lipon had a hatrick.
They have won 7 games in a row.
They are tied for first in the AHL.
Hutch has a .945 SV% and a 2.00 GAA this season. :o
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on November 29, 2017, 02:28:31 PM
Not sure if this belongs in the Jets thread but.....
Moose won last night 8-1.
Hutch made 47 saves, J.C. Lipon had a hatrick.
They have won 7 games in a row.
They are tied for first in the AHL.
Hutch has a .945 SV% and a 2.00 GAA this season. :o
Yep, the Moose are insanely good this year!!
Sure would be cool to have playoff Jets AND Moose this spring, eh??
Moose have a few vets/older players this year ......... of which Left shot Dman, 29 year old Cameron Schilling is key ..... with 17 points in 22 games & a real good +15.
Tucker Poolman has played 7 games & has an assist & is a -1. ...... Not on Active Roster at the moment ........ Anyone heard what his Injury is ?
Quote from: Jockitch on November 29, 2017, 07:19:40 PM
Moose have a few vets/older players this year ......... of which Left shot Dman, 29 year old Cameron Schilling is key ..... with 17 points in 22 games & a real good +15.
Tucker Poolman has played 7 games & has an assist & is a -1. ...... Not on Active Roster at the moment ........ Anyone heard what his Injury is ?
They mentioned he had a flu a week or two ago but was still playing through it. I thought he got called up when Enstrom went down and Chiarot went in?
Quote from: Jockitch on November 29, 2017, 07:19:40 PM
Moose have a few vets/older players this year ......... of which Left shot Dman, 29 year old Cameron Schilling is key ..... with 17 points in 22 games & a real good +15.
Tucker Poolman has played 7 games & has an assist & is a -1. ...... Not on Active Roster at the moment ........ Anyone heard what his Injury is ?
He's not hurt. The Jets recalled him after Enstrom got hurt. He's with the team but not playing because they elected to start Chiarot.
Sloppy game for the Jets going to OT with the jets on the PK.
If we can roll out of here with 2 points it will be a steal
Quote from: The Zipp on November 30, 2017, 04:07:27 AM
Sloppy game for the Jets going to OT with the jets on the PK.
If we can roll out of here with 2 points it will be a steal
Hahahahahah. Avs score 30 seconds in but it's offside...no goal
Quote from: The Zipp on November 30, 2017, 04:11:16 AM
Hahahahahah. Avs score 30 seconds in but it's offside...no goal
And the robbery is stopped. Jets lose in OT. That too many men penalty was a killer.
Whole team looked off...
Not a great game by us. We are lucky to walk away with that point.
Oh well, a point in the standings is better than nothing, but I hate giving any points to fellow Centralers. Time to go home and kill the Knights.
I'll echo the statement we were lucky to walk out of there with the point.
The goal when Helly lost his helmet was a joke.
Quote from: BomberPride on November 30, 2017, 03:01:04 PM
I'll echo the statement we were lucky to walk out of there with the point.
The goal when Helly lost his helmet was a joke.
Sure, no helmet is a big concern (ask Eddie Giacomin), but its not like it was an extended time, it was more like the ofside challenge timing between when the mask "came off" and the puck entered the net. Had that puck missed the net, play would have been blown dead. And really, Helly didn't "lose" his mask as much as a strap came loose and he actually shook it off his head. Again, I understand his not wanting to play on with his mask loose, but he did remove it...
A point on the road is never a bad thing. We get the Knights tomorrow on the 2nd leg of a back to back. Knights in Minny tonight.
Quote from: theaardvark on November 30, 2017, 03:41:32 PM
Sure, no helmet is a big concern (ask Eddie Giacomin), but its not like it was an extended time, it was more like the ofside challenge timing between when the mask "came off" and the puck entered the net. Had that puck missed the net, play would have been blown dead. And really, Helly didn't "lose" his mask as much as a strap came loose and he actually shook it off his head. Again, I understand his not wanting to play on with his mask loose, but he did remove it...
He likely shook it to get it to sit properly on his head so he could see.
Can't believe the goal wasn't called off.
Quote from: blue_or_die on November 30, 2017, 06:24:42 PM
He likely shook it to get it to sit properly on his head so he could see.
Can't believe the goal wasn't called off.
Read somewhere that the rule says something like ?if the goalie?s mask comes off the play is supposed to be blown dead immediately unless there?s an imminent scoring opportunity?. Unfortunately that seems to make this goal legit IMO.
Quote from: Stretch on December 01, 2017, 12:13:30 PM
Read somewhere that the rule says something like ?if the goalie?s mask comes off the play is supposed to be blown dead immediately unless there?s an imminent scoring opportunity?. Unfortunately that seems to make this goal legit IMO.
I definitely understand that they don't want goalies to panic and flick their masks off to stop a goal scoring opportunity, but that one bites. Could have been a clean 2 points against a division rival. Eh, coulda woulda shoulda.
Anyway, the Moose obliterated (and I do mean obliterated) Cleveland last night to extend their roll. I gotta get out to another game soon!
Quote from: blue_or_die on December 01, 2017, 12:51:58 PM
I definitely understand that they don't want goalies to panic and flick their masks off to stop a goal scoring opportunity, but that one bites. Could have been a clean 2 points against a division rival. Eh, coulda woulda shoulda.
Anyway, the Moose obliterated (and I do mean obliterated) Cleveland last night to extend their roll. I gotta get out to another game soon!
7 different goal scorers :o
Hutch has made 118 saves on 121 shots his last 3 games for a .975 SV% :o
Quote from: The Zipp on November 30, 2017, 04:13:13 AM
And the robbery is stopped. Jets lose in OT. That too many men penalty was a killer.
Whole team looked off...
They were outta sorts pretty much the whole game. At least they took a loser point out of it.
As for the Avs' goal that came after Hellebuyck's mask came loose, rule 9.6 states the following:
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When a goalkeeper has lost his helmet and/or face mask and his
team has control of the puck, the play shall be stopped immediately to
allow the goalkeeper the opportunity to regain his helmet and/or face
mask. When the opposing team has control of the puck, play shall
only be stopped if there is no immediate and impending scoring
opportunity.
So, it was a good goal according to the rules.
Hendricks ties it up on a gorgeous goal. Jets needed that one!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 02, 2017, 01:35:11 AM
Hendricks ties it up on a gorgeous goal. Jets needed that one!
Definitely changed the momentum with the reversed goal and Hendricks tying score.
From seemingly 3-1 for Vegas, to 4-2 for us.
This team is awesome.
Big third for the Jets. Laine with 3P (1G, 2A), Connor with a beauty and Ehlers with a sick wraparound.
Gotta get this win (and hope the Kings can beat the Blues).
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 02, 2017, 02:19:38 AM
Big third for the Jets. Laine with 3P (1G, 2A), Connor with a beauty and Ehlers with a sick wraparound.
Gotta get this win (and hope the Kings can beat the Blues).
The Kings smoked the Blues. We just need to hold on.
Second best in the entire NHL...
Awesome
Pinch me
Nice effort by the Jets last night when we got behind against Vegas.
I wonder why Hutchinson didn't get called up as our backup when Mason got hurt ?
In 2014/2015 he was 21-10, but tailed off the next two seasons, so I thought maybe he was done in the NHL.
However, this year he's bounced back nicely with the Moose.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid%5B%5D=96549
I was there last night!
It was electric
A fabulous drunken experience
Wildly entertaining game
LOL
Quote from: PloenFan on December 02, 2017, 01:54:12 PM
Nice effort by the Jets last night when we got behind against Vegas.
I wonder why Hutchinson didn't get called up as our backup when Mason got hurt ?
In 2014/2015 he was 21-10, but tailed off the next two seasons, so I thought maybe he was done in the NHL.
However, this year he's bounced back nicely with the Moose.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid%5B%5D=96549
He?d have to be put through waivers when he was sent down again.
Quote from: Jesse on December 02, 2017, 05:57:22 PM
He?d have to be put through waivers when he was sent down again.
Exactly. And the way he's been playing in the AHL so far this season, it'd be a shame to lose him.
Regarding Waivers ...... as Mason got injured there was to be No Waiver issue on Hutch if he came up as it was deemed to be an Emergency Call up situation.
Therefore Hutch could have moved up & then down with no claims to worry Chevy
It is truely remarkable how awesome both the Jets and Moose are doing! Kudos to Chevy and staying with his plan. The cupboards are full but more depth always appreciate. Plus as mentioned the Moose are just killing the opposition 15-2 goal diff in there last two games! Insane!
just browsed thru the Wpg. Sun, this Sunday, & Did Not find a single mention of the Moose's 4-0 victory, the previous night (Saturday).
This town sucks IMO with the lack of mention thru mediums on the Moose & even the Goldeyes to some extent.
There?s lots of Moose coverage on Twitter... Mike McIntyre and Illegal Curve are the best in my opinion. Let?s hope the Jets keep the winning going against the Sens! Kyle Connor is out with a day-to-day injury so Mathias draws into the line up. I?ve loved Connor?s game this season so I hope he?s back in soon.
Quote from: Jockitch on December 03, 2017, 06:09:27 PM
just browsed thru the Wpg. Sun, this Sunday, & Did Not find a single mention of the Moose's 4-0 victory, the previous night (Saturday).
This town sucks IMO with the lack of mention thru mediums on the Moose & even the Goldeyes to some extent.
Are you surprised? The AHL didn't get much coverage even when it was the only hockey show in town.
And besides, the Sun is trash.
Dominant victory tonight! Hellebuyck gets his first shutout of the season.
Seems the plan TN put in is now coming to life.
steamroller
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on December 04, 2017, 02:09:04 AM
Seems the plan TN put in is now coming to life.
Took some time - and no doubt longer than many had hoped - but this organization is coming together this season. Both the Jets and the Moose are making some serious noise in their respective leagues.
I loved Chevy all along PoMo not so much but I?ll give PoMo props now. He deserves some recognition.
Even Buff has been good Buff for quite a while now, aside from the odd blip ala SJS game.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 04, 2017, 05:54:13 PM
Took some time - and no doubt longer than many had hoped - but this organization is coming together this season. Both the Jets and the Moose are making some serious noise in their respective leagues.
It took longer.... but thats better. They all became a team and understand the roles they play.
The system between the 2 teams is the same. The players expect the same.
Its taken awhile for things to happen. But it looks like the idea is comming.
Lets hope this continues....... its fun
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on December 05, 2017, 12:51:15 AM
It took longer.... but thats better. They all became a team and understand the roles they play.
The system between the 2 teams is the same. The players expect the same.
Its taken awhile for things to happen. But it looks like the idea is comming.
Lets hope this continues....... its fun
amen
Blake Wheeler named the NHL's first star of the week: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/wheeler-price-headline-nhls-three-stars-week/ (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/wheeler-price-headline-nhls-three-stars-week/)
2G, 8A for 10P in just 4 games. What a beauty.
The entire organization looks like a powerhouse...both the Jets and Moose are dominating. There is going to come a time where some tough decisions will need to be made and we wont be able to keep all this talent because of the salary cap, but that'll be good for long-term sustained success and we will just trade talented guys for prospects and draft picks. Chevy seems to be very good at managing assets.
Chevy's process, and Chipman's patience are finally paying off.
It is amazing that a healthy roster does for performance of a club.
And its AHL affiliate. When your best prospects are playing in the A instead of sitting in the pressbox of the parent team, wow. The moose are icing a very talented squad right now, and it is showing in the standings.
The limited injuries, I quite agree, certainly has helped the talented, skilled players to mature & thrive as a team.
Chevy, his advisors & the network of scouts, do a lot of homework analysis which has been paying off in superlatives so far this year, in Moose & Jet results.
Can Chevy make some tough decisions, add & subtract the pieces necessary to help PM & his staff close the final 2/3rds & make a playoff statement ???
STAY TUNED !!
I expected a push-back from the Red Wings but the Jets have been pitifully bad tonight.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 06, 2017, 01:40:07 AM
I expected a push-back from the Red Wings but the Jets have been pitifully bad tonight.
You would think all these Michigan boys would play better in front of friends and family?
Nope
Pitiful PP
I will be honest I FF most of the game
They always suck in Detroit
Bad bad game...put it behind them and get back to the winning. A 5 game losing streak would do some damage - standings are very tight
You can't win 'em all. We have been on the other side of that for years where we were the crap team and then would host Chicago and dominate. It's how you respond to a loss and go back to winning ways immediately that matter in an 82 game season. On to Florida.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on December 06, 2017, 02:09:20 AM
You would think all these Michigan boys would play better in front of friends and family?
Nope
Pitiful PP
I will be honest I FF most of the game
They always suck in Detroit
They won there last season. They won there in 2014-15. They won there in 2013-14. More wins than losses in Detroit.
Quote from: blue_or_die on December 06, 2017, 01:35:52 PM
You can't win 'em all. We have been on the other side of that for years where we were the crap team and then would host Chicago and dominate. It's how you respond to a loss and go back to winning ways immediately that matter in an 82 game season. On to Florida.
Precisely. They faced a desperate team last night and simply weren't up to the task. Time to put it in the rear-view and focus on tomorrow's game in Sunrise.
Interesting to note that Perrault played the least ....... only 12 shifts for 9:14. Hendricks next at 16 shifts for 9:18.
Surely Armia & Perrault with Lowry, as a line, can't be far away. Lowry only has 4 points playing with Copp & Tanev.
Let Copp with 6 pts. & Tanev, with 5 pts., play with Hendricks, at 6 pts. ......who has less than a shot per game.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 06, 2017, 02:28:42 PM
They won there last season. They won there in 2014-15. They won there in 2013-14. More wins than losses in Detroit.
Precisely. They faced a desperate team last night and simply weren't up to the task. Time to put it in the rear-view and focus on tomorrow's game in Sunrise.
LOL fair enough I just wanted someone else to go look up the history there I was to lazy. Just more of a mindset playing the Wings I suppose.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on December 06, 2017, 06:03:22 PM
LOL fair enough I just wanted someone else to go look up the history there I was to lazy. Just more of a mindset playing the Wings I suppose.
sheer brilliance...
LOL
The Kulakov signing is looking pretty good... I remember a Sabres fan tweeting "I hope you enjoy it in February when both the weather and Kulikov are -26
Not so much now...
Quote from: theaardvark on December 06, 2017, 08:52:35 PM
The Kulakov signing is looking pretty good... I remember a Sabres fan tweeting "I hope you enjoy it in February when both the weather and Kulikov are -26
Not so much now...
Sabres fans are pretty dumb. They still think their team won the 2015 trade... LOL
I mean, the Sabres' blue line has 1 goal. The entire defense has just one goal. That's pathetic.
Kulikov is a good defenseman. He just played on a garbage team before this season.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 06, 2017, 11:29:01 PM
Sabres fans are pretty dumb. They still think their team won the 2015 trade... LOL
I mean, the Sabres' blue line has 1 goal. The entire defense has just one goal. That's pathetic.
Kulikov is a good defenseman. He just played on a garbage team before this season.
We could have given Kane to them for free and we'd have won that trade.
Quote from: blue_or_die on December 07, 2017, 01:04:07 PM
We could have given Kane to them for free and we'd have won that trade.
Nailed it.
Anyhoo, Comrie gets the start in net tonight vs. the Panthers.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 07, 2017, 04:54:56 PM
Nailed it.
Anyhoo, Comrie gets the start in net tonight vs. the Panthers.
Wowzers. That'll be interesting.
Yeah I'm very surprised. Thought this would be a good game to have BuckBuck bounce back like he has all year after a loss.
I'd be saying the same if it was Mason going in...but now especially if it's Comrie! Oh well, go show 'em what you're made of!
Quote from: blue_or_die on December 07, 2017, 06:40:37 PM
Yeah I'm very surprised. Thought this would be a good game to have BuckBuck bounce back like he has all year after a loss.
I'd be saying the same if it was Mason going in...but now especially if it's Comrie! Oh well, go show 'em what you're made of!
For sure, but he'll have a tall order on Saturday in Tampa Bay. I'm not opposed to giving him an extra day off. My main concern with Comrie starting is more on how the team plays in front of him. Another lazy and careless effort can't happen.
FWIW, he played pretty well in his first start last season against a pretty strong Blue Jackets team. The Panthers, at least in my opinion, don't qualify as pretty strong at the moment. I'm glad he didn't get the start against a desperate Red Wings team the other night, so this game seems like the most ideal opportunity in which to give him a start during his call-up.
Quote from: blue_or_die on December 07, 2017, 06:40:37 PM
Yeah I'm very surprised. Thought this would be a good game to have BuckBuck bounce back like he has all year after a loss.
I'd be saying the same if it was Mason going in...but now especially if it's Comrie! Oh well, go show 'em what you're made of!
I'm happy to see him start. I think if we had Mason available, Helle would have had a break before this point, so it's probably needed. It's great that we have such a high-caliber prospect available and that he's getting the proper time to develop, but it's good to show him what he needs to be working towards.
But it could be hit or miss when it comes to getting 2 points tonight.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 07, 2017, 06:45:17 PM
For sure, but he'll have a tall order on Saturday in Tampa Bay. I'm not opposed to giving him an extra day off. My main concern with Comrie starting is more on how the team plays in front of him. Another lazy and careless effort can't happen.
FWIW, he played pretty well in his first start last season against a pretty strong Blue Jackets team. The Panthers, at least in my opinion, don't qualify as pretty strong at the moment. I'm glad he didn't get the start against a desperate Red Wings team the other night, so this game seems like the most ideal opportunity in which to give him a start during his call-up.
Yeah, I agree that the Panthers are a good team to test a young backup, if you gotta do it. Good point about TB Saturday. Boy am I looking forward to that game.
Quote from: Jesse on December 07, 2017, 07:48:12 PM
I'm happy to see him start. I think if we had Mason available, Helle would have had a break before this point, so it's probably needed. It's great that we have such a high-caliber prospect available and that he's getting the proper time to develop, but it's good to show him what he needs to be working towards.
But it could be hit or miss when it comes to getting 2 points tonight.
I'm just being overly sensitive about the state of Helle's mental state and our record. I'm irrationally assuming that because we lost a game we must be going on a giant downward spiral, with Hellebuyck losing complete confidence. We have seen it all too often in seasons past and I've been on eggshells all year, expecting the wheels to fall off. I have to condition myself to think differently!!
Quote from: blue_or_die on December 07, 2017, 07:59:22 PM
Yeah, I agree that the Panthers are a good team to test a young backup, if you gotta do it. Good point about TB Saturday. Boy am I looking forward to that game.
Ditto!
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Saturday is going to be a big game for this team. And then a week later with the back-to-back home-and-home with the Blues... Ooh, boy. ;D
Quote from: blue_or_die on December 07, 2017, 07:59:22 PM
Yeah, I agree that the Panthers are a good team to test a young backup, if you gotta do it. Good point about TB Saturday. Boy am I looking forward to that game.
I'm just being overly sensitive about the state of Helle's mental state and our record. I'm irrationally assuming that because we lost a game we must be going on a giant downward spiral, with Hellebuyck losing complete confidence. We have seen it all too often in seasons past and I've been on eggshells all year, expecting the wheels to fall off. I have to condition myself to think differently!!
Also true for Bomber fans. We've been burned by false hope so many times, its hard to get behind a team when they start doing well.
The Jets have way less history here than the Bombers but I still found myself thinking "Same ol Jets" during the Detroit game... Hopefully tonight they get back on track!
rough start for young Comrie ...... down 2-0 very early
Quote from: Jockitch on December 07, 2017, 11:49:21 PM
rough start for young Comrie ...... down 2-0 very early
Fairly solid since though!
Tough loss...not the time to go on a slide Jets!! Not going to be any easier on Saturday
Their GWG, Comrie had zero chance. And then we have like 3 chances where I absolutely couldn't believe it didn't go in, culminating with their empty netter.
Shoulda had that one.
Quote from: blue_or_die on December 08, 2017, 12:26:43 PM
Their GWG, Comrie had zero chance. And then we have like 3 chances where I absolutely couldn't believe it didn't go in, culminating with their empty netter.
Shoulda had that one.
Another somewhat sloppy showing by the Jets last night, but a weird game bounces-wise. Comrie looked shaky to start but what happened to the Jets' solid defensive zone play? Did they forget to pack it for this road trip? :-\
If Chiarot gets a fine for stick-butting Perry, Trocheck should get one for what he did to Little last night. That was disgusting. And how the hell is Byfuglien the only player to get a penalty out of the scrum Huberdeau started by going after Connor?
Tampa certainly can roll 3 pretty busy, productive lines ....... felt the Jets looked sporadic in their ability to play a high standard
.......... however they created chances, battled & had a decent 3rd period ....... Points matter
Buff may have strained a groin & played just 16:54 & not on the bench after the incident ....... anyone hear by the grapevine if he is injured.
Smoke and mirrors. Well it was great while it lasted.
We still have a lot of passengers. Buff sucks, Chiarot is a good sixth defenceman.
Can someone tells me what Joel Armea brings to the table besides one goal every ten games...same as the rest of the bottom six?
Bryan Little is done. He's part of the Atlamts. Cancer that plays at rec league hockey pace. Those two kids are rotting away in the second line with him as center..
At times we show a great forechecking speed. Game, and the. We put Sheiffle, the captain in, and they couldn't get back to their own end of their life depended on it. Same with Laine. ****** how can an MGL guy not know how to oick up a puck off the boards.??
Comfiest?,,,,,....oh my God..
Oh well another twenty six years..no wait....isn't thatthey Bombers.? Oh well I did get to see Anders, Ulf and Bobby!
Quote from: DM83 on December 11, 2017, 04:58:05 AM
Smoke and mirrors. Well it was great while it lasted.
We still have a lot of passengers. Buff sucks, Chiarot is a good sixth defenceman.
Can someone tells me what Joel Armea brings to the table besides one goal every ten games...same as the rest of the bottom six?
Bryan Little is done. He's part of the Atlamts. Cancer that plays at rec league hockey pace. Those two kids are rotting away in the second line with him as center..
At times we show a great forechecking speed. Game, and the. We put Sheiffle, the captain in, and they couldn't get back to their own end of their life depended on it. Same with Laine. ****** how can an MGL guy not know how to oick up a puck off the boards.??
Comfiest?,,,,,....oh my God..
Oh well another twenty six years..no wait....isn't thatthey Bombers.? Oh well I did get to see Anders, Ulf and Bobby!
Because of an OT loss to the best team in the league?
Let?s see how they respond tonight, eh?
Quote from: DM83 on December 11, 2017, 04:58:05 AM
Smoke and mirrors. Well it was great while it lasted.
We still have a lot of passengers. Buff sucks, Chiarot is a good sixth defenceman.
Can someone tells me what Joel Armea brings to the table besides one goal every ten games...same as the rest of the bottom six?
Bryan Little is done. He's part of the Atlamts. Cancer that plays at rec league hockey pace. Those two kids are rotting away in the second line with him as center..
At times we show a great forechecking speed. Game, and the. We put Sheiffle, the captain in, and they couldn't get back to their own end of their life depended on it. Same with Laine. ****** how can an MGL guy not know how to oick up a puck off the boards.??
Comfiest?,,,,,....oh my God..
Oh well another twenty six years..no wait....isn't thatthey Bombers.? Oh well I did get to see Anders, Ulf and Bobby!
Maybe it's the beer talking Marge but you got a butt that won't quit.
They got those big chewy pretzels here merJanthfgrr $5??!!!? get outta here...
How long has it been since they won a game? Time to blow this thing up... fire Maurice and trade Buff...
Or maybe not... lets see how full the bandwagon is after this week...
Quote from: theaardvark on December 11, 2017, 03:53:54 PM
How long has it been since they won a game? Time to blow this thing up... fire Maurice and trade Buff...
Or maybe not... lets see how full the bandwagon is after this week...
He is out for a couple of weeks...LBI
Quote from: The Zipp on December 11, 2017, 04:36:19 PM
He is out for a couple of weeks...LBI
Best time to trade him... hey, we got a good haul for an injured Kane...
Quote from: DM83 on December 11, 2017, 04:58:05 AM
Smoke and mirrors. Well it was great while it lasted.
We still have a lot of passengers. Buff sucks, Chiarot is a good sixth defenceman.
Can someone tells me what Joel Armea brings to the table besides one goal every ten games...same as the rest of the bottom six?
Bryan Little is done. He's part of the Atlamts. Cancer that plays at rec league hockey pace. Those two kids are rotting away in the second line with him as center..
At times we show a great forechecking speed. Game, and the. We put Sheiffle, the captain in, and they couldn't get back to their own end of their life depended on it. Same with Laine. ****** how can an MGL guy not know how to oick up a puck off the boards.??
Comfiest?,,,,,....oh my God..
Oh well another twenty six years..no wait....isn't thatthey Bombers.? Oh well I did get to see Anders, Ulf and Bobby!
What a bunch on nonsence this is.
Nothing what you say is even close. Good god man.
Quote from: theaardvark on December 11, 2017, 03:53:54 PM
How long has it been since they won a game? Time to blow this thing up... fire Maurice and trade Buff...
Or maybe not... lets see how full the bandwagon is after this week...
Is it best to make the Stanley Cup parade through the downtown on Portage, or further out near Polo?
Quote from: theaardvark on December 12, 2017, 12:55:10 PM
Is it best to make the Stanley Cup parade through the downtown on Portage, or further out near Polo?
I hope not. To some there is only one way in and out of there! ;D
Quote from: DM83 on December 11, 2017, 04:58:05 AM
Smoke and mirrors. Well it was great while it lasted.
We still have a lot of passengers. Buff sucks, Chiarot is a good sixth defenceman.
Can someone tells me what Joel Armea brings to the table besides one goal every ten games...same as the rest of the bottom six?
Bryan Little is done. He's part of the Atlamts. Cancer that plays at rec league hockey pace. Those two kids are rotting away in the second line with him as center..
At times we show a great forechecking speed. Game, and the. We put Sheiffle, the captain in, and they couldn't get back to their own end of their life depended on it. Same with Laine. ****** how can an MGL guy not know how to oick up a puck off the boards.??
Comfiest?,,,,,....oh my God..
Oh well another twenty six years..no wait....isn't thatthey Bombers.? Oh well I did get to see Anders, Ulf and Bobby!
Have another glass of turpentine.
OK, tweaking the lineup. Is this where Chevy will earn his money, and some respect?
Can we land Tavares, and how does that mesh with Scheiffle, position and cap wise?
Is Karlson worth going after? Is he able to fully recover, and can we fit him under the cap?
We have a crapton of good prospects right now, is it better to keep them in the pipe because we will need that RFA control on salary to manage the cap, or package them to a developing team for that one wily vet we need to push us over the top?
Trouba, Roslovic, Lemeiux, Comrie are all assets that any team would love to land, and players we can spare.
Before anyone dumps on me for putting Trouba's name out there, I have no problem with him being a Jet forever, if he signs a long term deal. But I don't want to lose him for nothing. Trading him won't really hurt us, heck we're doing well with Buff / Enstrom out right now. So if one of them gets healthy, no problem losing Trouba. It is even less of a problem if you are getting a LH Dman back...
Quote from: theaardvark on December 13, 2017, 03:46:19 PM
OK, tweaking the lineup. Is this where Chevy will earn his money, and some respect?
Can we land Tavares, and how does that mesh with Scheiffle, position and cap wise?
Is Karlson worth going after? Is he able to fully recover, and can we fit him under the cap?
We have a crapton of good prospects right now, is it better to keep them in the pipe because we will need that RFA control on salary to manage the cap, or package them to a developing team for that one wily vet we need to push us over the top?
Trouba, Roslovic, Lemeiux, Comrie are all assets that any team would love to land, and players we can spare.
Before anyone dumps on me for putting Trouba's name out there, I have no problem with him being a Jet forever, if he signs a long term deal. But I don't want to lose him for nothing. Trading him won't really hurt us, heck we're doing well with Buff / Enstrom out right now. So if one of them gets healthy, no problem losing Trouba. It is even less of a problem if you are getting a LH Dman back...
I'm sure bidding for Tavares would start at 9M per season.. Jets won't pay that.
Karlsson gave list to Ottawa GM of 10 teams he won't accept a trade too... bets the Jets are on the list?
Karlsson is making 6.5M this year...... thinking 8M + would be the range - would rather offer Trouba 7M-ish as he is 4 years younger
I heard E. Kane could be used as a rental player this season -- averaging just under 1 PPG... with the Jets looking like a contender.. can burned bridges be fixed?
Next games are Chicago - Blues - Blues - Predators ---- all 4 point games - getting 2 wins out of those 4 would be a great result
Quote from: theaardvark on December 13, 2017, 03:46:19 PM
OK, tweaking the lineup. Is this where Chevy will earn his money, and some respect?
Can we land Tavares, and how does that mesh with Scheiffle, position and cap wise?
Is Karlson worth going after? Is he able to fully recover, and can we fit him under the cap?
We have a crapton of good prospects right now, is it better to keep them in the pipe because we will need that RFA control on salary to manage the cap, or package them to a developing team for that one wily vet we need to push us over the top?
Trouba, Roslovic, Lemeiux, Comrie are all assets that any team would love to land, and players we can spare.
Before anyone dumps on me for putting Trouba's name out there, I have no problem with him being a Jet forever, if he signs a long term deal. But I don't want to lose him for nothing. Trading him won't really hurt us, heck we're doing well with Buff / Enstrom out right now. So if one of them gets healthy, no problem losing Trouba. It is even less of a problem if you are getting a LH Dman back...
Why would the Jets try for Tavares? They're already a top team offensively.
How are any of those four players listed ones the team can spare? Trouba is playing top pairing minutes, Roslovic is a young depth piece with loads of upside, Lemieux will be a solid and gritty bottom 6 asset, and Comrie is another young depth piece with loads of upside. How are any of these assets expendable in your mind?
And you're wrong. Trading Trouba would definitely hurt the team unless it gets an equal piece in return.
Karlsson would be an incredible piece to acquire, but I have to think what the Senators want in return is pretty rich.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 13, 2017, 04:38:26 PM
Why would the Jets try for Tavares? They're already a top team offensively.
How are any of those four players listed ones the team can spare? Trouba is playing top pairing minutes, Roslovic is a young depth piece with loads of upside, Lemieux will be a solid and gritty bottom 6 asset, and Comrie is another young depth piece with loads of upside. How are any of these assets expendable in your mind?
And you're wrong. Trading Trouba would definitely hurt the team unless it gets an equal piece in return.
Karlsson would be an incredible piece to acquire, but I have to think what the Senators want in return is pretty rich.
You do realize my contention is to improve the current roster. I'm not talking about DP's or prospects coming back. I'm talking one big bump up for some "spare parts". Which is what "spare parts" are for, none of those players are helping us this year. Its why you build depth, so that you can make a big move for a big name.
You don't think that Tavares centreing Ehlers/Laine would be an upgrade? Little taking over for Hendricks? That's the idea, upgrade an already potent O.
Quote from: theaardvark on December 13, 2017, 05:42:15 PM
You do realize my contention is to improve the current roster. I'm not talking about DP's or prospects coming back. I'm talking one big bump up for some "spare parts". Which is what "spare parts" are for, none of those players are helping us this year. Its why you build depth, so that you can make a big move for a big name.
You don't think that Tavares centreing Ehlers/Laine would be an upgrade? Little taking over for Hendricks? That's the idea, upgrade an already potent O.
If you mean trades, we can't trade for any high end players. We are either A) On their no-trade lists or B) not on their list of approved trades, depending on the contract language.
This is why we have to build through the draft. We can't pull a LA or NY style move and trade some picks for a top rental player.
Quote from: Jesse on December 13, 2017, 05:44:45 PM
If you mean trades, we can't trade for any high end players. We are either A) On their no-trade lists or B) not on their list of approved trades, depending on the contract language.
This is why we have to build through the draft. We can't pull a LA or NY style move and trade some picks for a top rental player.
When we couldn't make a playoff run, sure, we were on every no trade list. Now, when we are at the top of the rankings, with a very talented lineup and a solid coaching staff, I think that changes. It might even change with Trouba, now that we are contenders.
But as long as we were a sad sack team, no, no one wanted to be here. But can you imagine Tavares being asked if he'd like to centre Laine/Ehlers? Yeah, I can see that being a no on his part. NOT.
Quote from: theaardvark on December 13, 2017, 05:50:03 PM
When we couldn't make a playoff run, sure, we were on every no trade list. Now, when we are at the top of the rankings, with a very talented lineup and a solid coaching staff, I think that changes. It might even change with Trouba, now that we are contenders.
But as long as we were a sad sack team, no, no one wanted to be here. But can you imagine Tavares being asked if he'd like to centre Laine/Ehlers? Yeah, I can see that being a no on his part. NOT.
Being on nearly every no trade list has little to do with the Jets record and a lot to do with that player having to spend an extended period of time in Winnipeg.
Edmonton drafting McDavid and looking like they'd be constant contenders last season hasn't helped them get off no trade lists. The Jets being in the Top 3 in December sure as hell won't.
Quote from: Colton on December 13, 2017, 05:56:12 PM
Being on nearly every no trade list has little to do with the Jets record and a lot to do with that player having to spend an extended period of time in Winnipeg.
Edmonton drafting McDavid and looking like they'd be constant contenders last season hasn't helped them get off no trade lists. The Jets being in the Top 3 in December sure as hell won't.
exactly...win a cup and players will
maybe consider coming here but even then there will always be other contenders in much better places to live.
Quote from: theaardvark on December 13, 2017, 05:50:03 PM
When we couldn't make a playoff run, sure, we were on every no trade list. Now, when we are at the top of the rankings, with a very talented lineup and a solid coaching staff, I think that changes. It might even change with Trouba, now that we are contenders.
But as long as we were a sad sack team, no, no one wanted to be here. But can you imagine Tavares being asked if he'd like to centre Laine/Ehlers? Yeah, I can see that being a no on his part. NOT.
Sorry man, there is no argument here. We are on 100% of no-trade lists. It's a reality we have to live with.
Perhaps, if we had sustained success as a Stanley Cup contender it may change for some players, but most of these lists were submitted before the year started (though that admittedly varies by team).
Quote from: theaardvark on December 13, 2017, 05:42:15 PM
You do realize my contention is to improve the current roster. I'm not talking about DP's or prospects coming back. I'm talking one big bump up for some "spare parts". Which is what "spare parts" are for, none of those players are helping us this year. Its why you build depth, so that you can make a big move for a big name.
You don't think that Tavares centreing Ehlers/Laine would be an upgrade? Little taking over for Hendricks? That's the idea, upgrade an already potent O.
So, you think the team should trade for player it doesn't need. The Jets are more than fine at C and are presently third in the league in FO% (http://puckbase.com/stats/team-faceoffs (http://puckbase.com/stats/team-faceoffs)). So, your contention is not only ridiculous but it's ignorant, too.
The Jets have plenty of big names: Scheifele, Wheeler, Laine, Ehlers... And then some underrated but important players like Little and Perreault, the former of which clearly flies under your radar. Forward depth is the least of the team's concerns right now - if you've actually been paying attention to the team.
And no, a team doesn't build depth to move a bunch of it for one player, much less for a player that doesn't address a
need. What a clueless comment.
This narrative is akin to your idea of the Jets trying to get Fleury.
Quote from: theaardvark on December 13, 2017, 05:50:03 PM
When we couldn't make a playoff run, sure, we were on every no trade list. Now, when we are at the top of the rankings, with a very talented lineup and a solid coaching staff, I think that changes. It might even change with Trouba, now that we are contenders.
But as long as we were a sad sack team, no, no one wanted to be here. But can you imagine Tavares being asked if he'd like to centre Laine/Ehlers? Yeah, I can see that being a no on his part. NOT.
More pointless conjecture. The Jets haven't proven anything yet. Let's see them win a playoff game or a series first before assuming players will suddenly eliminate Winnipeg from the no trade lists and want to play here.
Jee-zus.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 13, 2017, 08:36:04 PM
So, you think the team should trade for player it doesn't need. The Jets are more than fine at C and are presently third in the league in FO% (http://puckbase.com/stats/team-faceoffs (http://puckbase.com/stats/team-faceoffs)). So, your contention is not only ridiculous but it's ignorant, too.
The Jets have plenty of big names: Scheifele, Wheeler, Laine, Ehlers... And then some underrated but important players like Little and Perreault, the former of which clearly flies under your radar. Forward depth is the least of the team's concerns right now - if you've actually been paying attention to the team.
And no, a team doesn't build depth to move a bunch of it for one player, much less for a player that doesn't address a need. What a clueless comment.
This narrative is akin to your idea of the Jets trying to get Fleury.
More pointless conjecture. The Jets haven't proven anything yet. Let's see them win a playoff game or a series first before assuming players will suddenly eliminate Winnipeg from the no trade lists and want to play here.
Jee-zus.
Need? No, we don't need to improve at any position. But you should want to get better if you can. Hendricks has been great, an excellent signing by the team. But if you could replace him with Taveres, why would you not?
As to moving depth players, we have an exceptionally deep team. Moving some of these assets to get better is what cup contenders do.
Remember, we have guys like Appleton, de Leo, Petan, Lipon, Sgarbossa, Phillips, Melchiori... and don't forget Vesalainen
#NHLJets recall defenceman Julian Melchiori from @ManitobaMoose, as team also announces Dustin Byfuglien placed on injured reserve. Winnipeg hosts Chicago tonight @bellmtsplace. #NHL
sounds like a few injuries on the go and the Jets will have to do a bit of shuffling on D...
Quote from: theaardvark on December 13, 2017, 10:38:09 PM
Need? No, we don't need to improve at any position. But you should want to get better if you can. Hendricks has been great, an excellent signing by the team. But if you could replace him with Taveres, why would you not?
As to moving depth players, we have an exceptionally deep team. Moving some of these assets to get better is what cup contenders do.
Remember, we have guys like Appleton, de Leo, Petan, Lipon, Sgarbossa, Phillips, Melchiori... and don't forget Vesalainen
Comparing Tavares and Hendricks is beyond ignorant. One's a bottom 6 grinder who can win defensive zone faceoffs and kill penalties. The other is an elite talent. From both a role and a salary standpoint, it's apples and oranges. Again: the Jets are currently third in FO% and are a top offense in the NHL.
Moving prospects to acquire a rental simply for the sake of doing so is not what contenders do.
So, no. I wouldn't trade for Tavares simply because. That doesn't make a lick of sense.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 14, 2017, 04:41:57 PM
Comparing Tavares and Hendricks is beyond ignorant. One's a bottom 6 grinder who can win defensive zone faceoffs and kill penalties. The other is an elite talent. From both a role and a salary standpoint, it's apples and oranges. Again: the Jets are currently third in FO% and are a top offense in the NHL.
Moving prospects to acquire a rental simply for the sake of doing so is not what contenders do.
So, no. I wouldn't trade for Tavares simply because. That doesn't make a lick of sense.
This.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 14, 2017, 04:41:57 PM
Comparing Tavares and Hendricks is beyond ignorant. One's a bottom 6 grinder who can win defensive zone faceoffs and kill penalties. The other is an elite talent. From both a role and a salary standpoint, it's apples and oranges. Again: the Jets are currently third in FO% and are a top offense in the NHL.
Moving prospects to acquire a rental simply for the sake of doing so is not what contenders do.
So, no. I wouldn't trade for Tavares simply because. That doesn't make a lick of sense.
If you put Taveres into the lineup, you move Little into the spot Hendricks is in. Get it?
Second line get BETTER. Fourth line gets BETTER. Team gets BETTER.
But I guess good enough is good enough for you....
Quote from: theaardvark on December 14, 2017, 05:38:32 PM
If you put Taveres into the lineup, you move Little into the spot Hendricks is in. Get it?
Second line get BETTER. Fourth line gets BETTER. Team gets BETTER.
But I guess good enough is good enough for you....
Where does Crosby fit in?
Quote from: Colton on December 14, 2017, 05:58:45 PM
Where does Crosby fit in?
Where ever he wants...
But if you're going to be silly, why not ask where Toews fits... now there's a trade you can make every day of the week...
Quote from: theaardvark on December 14, 2017, 05:38:32 PM
If you put Taveres into the lineup, you move Little into the spot Hendricks is in. Get it?
Second line get BETTER. Fourth line gets BETTER. Team gets BETTER.
But I guess good enough is good enough for you....
Thats not a good idea at all.
Quote from: theaardvark on December 14, 2017, 06:12:51 PM
Where ever he wants...
But if you're going to be silly, why not ask where Toews fits... now there's a trade you can make every day of the week...
Yeah I'm the one being silly
Well the Jets got schooled tonight - play a bit careless and this is what happens...3 big games coming up they should have been more ready for this one tonight.
I'm a Tavares lover ........ it would be a dream come true if he wore our team colors ........ however it sure isn't likely
Our current crop of centres, not including Scheif, are certainly winning a few faceoffs indeed ....... but putting the puck in they are not.
Hendricks with 4 is a nice surprise at this point but Little with 5 goals & Lowry with a pathetic 3, is just not decent results.
Crappy game. I was really excited for it, too. We always play Chicago well. Not this time.
Quote from: theaardvark on December 14, 2017, 05:38:32 PM
If you put Taveres into the lineup, you move Little into the spot Hendricks is in. Get it?
Second line get BETTER. Fourth line gets BETTER. Team gets BETTER.
But I guess good enough is good enough for you....
You sure don't. So, continuing this asinine discussion with you would be foolish.
Reality always seems to elude your opinions.
Quote from: blue_or_die on December 15, 2017, 12:51:01 PM
Crappy game. I was really excited for it, too. We always play Chicago well. Not this time.
Glad I didn't waste my time watching last night. 3-0 after 20... Brutal.
Face off wins does not equal points on paper. And I'm sure Tavares would kill our face off percentage too ::) . If the Jets coaching can get our current corps to 3rd in the league (some coaching, some using the new rules to our advantage (I guess that's coaching too)), I'm sure Tavares would be first in line to learn how to be even better... (he's at 49.6% right now)
We dominated the face offs last night. Not really the result we were looking for at the end of the game, though.
You make your team better by having better players. Which player is better to have in the lineup, Hendricks or Tavares? Don't get me wrong, I love what Hendricks has brought and brings every night. But can you imagine Laine/Ehlers/Tavares as you SECOND line? And Brian Little centreing your fourth line?
C'mon, you have to admit that we are a better team with Tavares on it. But if you don't think we need to get better, then I guess trading pieces that may never be used by the team for him doesn't make sense.
What a stinker last night, wasted a babysitting night on that?
Hopefully its only a blip and they get back to the way they have been playing.
Quote from: drahgon on December 15, 2017, 03:15:35 PM
What a stinker last night, wasted a babysitting night on that?
Hopefully its only a blip and they get back to the way they have been playing.
Yeah, this week and last has been quite the fall back down to earth. I could deal with losing the way we did to Detroit, only because they had a fire lit underneath them with a 10 goal embarrassment earlier. Losing to Florida sucked because not only are we a better team, but it was a close game and we should have maintained our lead or at least got a point. Loss to Tampa I could deal with in overtime. Winning convincingly against Van was awesome and I thought we were back on track, and then to be obliterated like that last night was the worst. Central division opponent whom we gave clean points to.
Winning both against STL would solve all of that this weekend. Winning one of them is more realistic, and losing both would feel like the sky is falling.
Quote from: blue_or_die on December 15, 2017, 03:32:35 PM
Yeah, this week and last has been quite the fall back down to earth. I could deal with losing the way we did to Detroit, only because they had a fire lit underneath them with a 10 goal embarrassment earlier. Losing to Florida sucked because not only are we a better team, but it was a close game and we should have maintained our lead or at least got a point. Loss to Tampa I could deal with in overtime. Winning convincingly against Van was awesome and I thought we were back on track, and then to be obliterated like that last night was the worst. Central division opponent whom we gave clean points to.
Winning both against STL would solve all of that this weekend. Winning one of them is more realistic, and losing both would feel like the sky is falling.
I also thought the win vs. VAN on Monday indicated the team got back on track. But then last night happened.
Three points in the home-and-home with the Blues would be nice - and necessary, IMO. The Jets need to get back on track and can't afford to lose ground in either the division or the conference.
PM shook up the lines a bit in the latter half ......... does he start Ehlers, Scheif & Wheeler together next game.
He slotted Perrault up with Little & Laine while dropping Conners to play with Hendricks & Armia.
Go for it coach Maurice ........ anyone hear if they are skating today & if so, are these changes together prior to the Blues back to back.
St. Louis are more vulnerable with Schwartz & Pietrangelo out with injuries & Bouwmeester just placed on the IR as well.
#NHLJets HC Paul Maurice say G Steve Mason will start one of two games vs #Blues this weekend. Wouldn't say whether it would be sat or Sunday. Mason hasn't played since suffering concussion on nov 25. #WFP
Corsi seems to be a popular topic in the NHL circles & I will not profess to understand it yet, as I've rarely looked at the basic rules.
However, in light of that, I simply looked at Giveaway vs Takeaway stats & sheesh ........ the Jets are net Minus 78. Vast improvement needed going forward
Noted: Armia has stolen the puck 15 times off the opponent while only giving it up carelessly a Single time ----- Terrific.
Little is at a Plus 12, Lowry at Plus 11, Tanev at Plus 10 & Scheif at a respectable Plus 7.
Wheeler is our worse forward at Minus 9, followed by Laine at a Minus 8 Dmen, as on most teams, have bad stats here.
Quote from: theaardvark on December 15, 2017, 03:13:04 PM
Face off wins does not equal points on paper. And I'm sure Tavares would kill our face off percentage too ::) . If the Jets coaching can get our current corps to 3rd in the league (some coaching, some using the new rules to our advantage (I guess that's coaching too)), I'm sure Tavares would be first in line to learn how to be even better... (he's at 49.6% right now)
We dominated the face offs last night. Not really the result we were looking for at the end of the game, though.
You make your team better by having better players. Which player is better to have in the lineup, Hendricks or Tavares? Don't get me wrong, I love what Hendricks has brought and brings every night. But can you imagine Laine/Ehlers/Tavares as you SECOND line? And Brian Little centreing your fourth line?
C'mon, you have to admit that we are a better team with Tavares on it. But if you don't think we need to get better, then I guess trading pieces that may never be used by the team for him doesn't make sense.
What your missing is you dont want Little on your 4th line. Hes not the type of player you want there. He not a grinder and defencive type you want and need on your 4th line.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on December 15, 2017, 07:00:38 PM
What your missing is you dont want Little on your 4th line. Hes not the type of player you want there. He not a grinder and defencive type you want and need on your 4th line.
Then put him on 3, and Lowry on 4... or make line 3 line 4, and line 4 line 3 with Little centring it... Little, Perrault, Tanev for line 3 is pretty nice, no?
Quote from: theaardvark on December 15, 2017, 08:03:50 PM
Then put him on 3, and Lowry on 4... or make line 3 line 4, and line 4 line 3 with Little centring it... Little, Perrault, Tanev for line 3 is pretty nice, no?
No
Hes not the guy you want doing that job.
Nothing is broken.... so you let it play out as its built.
Let them be and grow. Its working.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on December 16, 2017, 02:10:10 AM
No
Hes not the guy you want doing that job.
Nothing is broken.... so you let it play out as its built.
Let them be and grow. Its working.
Doing what job? Scoring?
Lowry Copp Armia is a pretty strong checking line, no?
Can't believe I watched a Jet loss & actually found satisfaction with the full effort.
Jets hustled, passed well, made plenty of shot attempts, won faceoffs, cleared rebounds, got above average goaltending ...... yet didn't win.
Hutton was the reason, IMO, that the ending was not worth 2 points for our Jets. Same effort today & a better result should occur.
Quote from: Jockitch on December 17, 2017, 05:25:45 PM
Can't believe I watched a Jet loss & actually found satisfaction with the full effort.
Jets hustled, passed well, made plenty of shot attempts, won faceoffs, cleared rebounds, got above average goaltending ...... yet didn't win.
Hutton was the reason, IMO, that the ending was not worth 2 points for our Jets. Same effort today & a better result should occur.
I was pretty unsatisfied. Hopefully, it turns out better tonight.
What a nice game last night. After outplaying St Louis the night before and getting a loss, this was sweet. Beating their #1 goalie soundly. With Petrangelo back in the lineup.
So, just making sure, the Stanley Cup parade is a go for Portage and Main area?
Quote from: theaardvark on December 18, 2017, 01:56:34 PM
What a nice game last night. After outplaying St Louis the night before and getting a loss, this was sweet. Beating their #1 goalie soundly. With Petrangelo back in the lineup.
So, just making sure, the Stanley Cup parade is a go for Portage and Main area?
Yes that's correct.
another sound game played by the Jets ........... really justified the end result
Quote from: Jockitch on December 17, 2017, 05:25:45 PM
Can't believe I watched a Jet loss & actually found satisfaction with the full effort.
Jets hustled, passed well, made plenty of shot attempts, won faceoffs, cleared rebounds, got above average goaltending ...... yet didn't win.
Hutton was the reason, IMO, that the ending was not worth 2 points for our Jets. Same effort today & a better result should occur.
Two very good efforts against the Blues after an ugly loss to the Blackhawks. If only the result of Saturday's game had been more positive.
Yesterday was a near perfect game by the home side. A dominant win in every sense of the word.
Heck of a win last night, but it also highlighted our need to be more careful with the puck.
Quote from: Stretch on December 20, 2017, 01:29:55 PM
Heck of a win last night, but it also highlighted our need to be more careful with the puck.
Eh, the Predators are a top team and they'll make any team pay even over the most minimal of errors. What really irked me yesterday was how the Jets closed out the opening frame. 19-ish minutes of excellent road hockey and then a complete bed-crapping. Fortunately, they had 40 minutes to correct it.
That was a huge win last night. Getting two clean points in hostile territory against a division rival is massive.
One of the most entertaining hockey games I have ever watched. Truly back and forth, great saves, incredible goals, crossbars, posts, Subban being a baby, Laine getting under his skin, the light call on the Laine slash and then non calls on obvious hooks and trips.
Rolling 4 lines and 3 d pairs with impunity, not caring about matchups, knowing every combination will be good.
And the Jets brain fart at the end of the first, and the epic battle back. Cap it with Tanev's goal getting Rinne to bite on the wrap around and shuffleboarding it between his pads, just watching Rinne's reaction when he realized he'd been beat was incredible. Knowing he'd had a great game, and let it slip away with one lazy moment.
The empty netter iced it off, the barrage the Preds brought in the final minute was intense, watching every Jet on the ice putting their bodies in harms way, stopping anything from developing from the point, awesome.
A true team win, and another game proving they are among the best in the league.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 20, 2017, 01:38:41 PM
Eh, the Predators are a top team and they'll make any team pay even over the most minimal of errors. What really irked me yesterday was how the Jets closed out the opening frame. 19-ish minutes of excellent road hockey and then a complete bed-crapping. Fortunately, they had 40 minutes to correct it.
That was a huge win last night. Getting two clean points in hostile territory against a division rival is massive.
Yup. Take out the last minute of the first period and it wasn't even that close of a game.
Quote from: Jesse on December 20, 2017, 02:04:11 PM
Yup. Take out the last minute of the first period and it wasn't even that close of a game.
and the first minute of the third...some general carelessness with the puck got them in trouble and Rinne gaffed on the game winning goal...all of that said the Jets played very hard, used their speed and beat a better team on the road - can't ask for much more than that.
Firmly agree with the variety of fan comments ......... thrilling victory Next up ----- bag & tag the Bruins.
The Winnipeg Jets are making it clear to other teams in the NHL that forward Shawn Matthias is available in trade, according to Elliotte Friedman of Sportsnet.
Matthias isn?t an offensive force, but a good depth player, with position versatility, on a two-year $4.25M deal he signed back in 2016 with Winnipeg.
Quote from: The Zipp on December 20, 2017, 11:25:32 PM
The Winnipeg Jets are making it clear to other teams in the NHL that forward Shawn Matthias is available in trade, according to Elliotte Friedman of Sportsnet.
Matthias isn?t an offensive force, but a good depth player, with position versatility, on a two-year $4.25M deal he signed back in 2016 with Winnipeg.
Totally forgot about him.
Quote from: blue_or_die on December 21, 2017, 01:25:30 PM
Totally forgot about him.
Yeah, me too. They mentioned him on the radio the other day form some reason and I was surprised to hear he was still with the team. Just a healthy scratch.
Quote from: blue_or_die on December 21, 2017, 01:25:30 PM
Totally forgot about him.
The forward depth within the organization right now is insane.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 21, 2017, 05:26:45 PM
The forward depth within the organization right now is insane.
Yup... crazy good. And think how young we are.
This is when you take 3 or 4 of those pieces that don't fit, and turn them into one really nice piece that does...
You're going to lose some of these pieces sooner of later, you only have so many contracts you can carry, and every year you add new prospects, draft choices, etc. Its good to have contract room as well as cap space.
Bundling Mathias, Dano and a few prospects could get you a player that could crack our lineup.
Solid overall game last night for the road team. Hellebuyck was excellent. Too bad it had to go to the skills competition to decide the winner, though.
Very entertaining game considering the low score. Lots of chances and great goaltending on both ends.
I'm happy to take the point and to get out of Boston.
Quote from: theaardvark on December 21, 2017, 09:02:25 PM
This is when you take 3 or 4 of those pieces that don't fit, and turn them into one really nice piece that does...
You're going to lose some of these pieces sooner of later, you only have so many contracts you can carry, and every year you add new prospects, draft choices, etc. Its good to have contract room as well as cap space.
Bundling Mathias, Dano and a few prospects could get you a player that could crack our lineup.
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Would we really want to do that? Especially with moving the prospects? I wouldn't. Move Matthias if you like, or possibly Dano, or both and get draft picks coming back. We draft well and have found some success and so therefore can double down on drafting and developing and ensuring we have a stream of stand out youth talent which is so crucial to remaining competitive these days.
Quote from: blue_or_die on December 22, 2017, 02:14:47 PM
Very entertaining game considering the low score. Lots of chances and great goaltending on both ends.
I'm happy to take the point and to get out of Boston.
only caught OT and the shootout...some good chances in OT - thought we were going to bury one but didn't...couple of the shootout shots were kinda weak but with split second decisions it happens...the point is good - two were within reach though.
Haven't paid much attention to the Islanders this year...are they any good?
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on December 22, 2017, 02:15:17 PM
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Would we really want to do that? Especially with moving the prospects? I wouldn't. Move Matthias if you like, or possibly Dano, or both and get draft picks coming back. We draft well and have found some success and so therefore can double down on drafting and developing and ensuring we have a stream of stand out youth talent which is so crucial to remaining competitive these days.
The key is to acquire a player that improves your present team. Pretty hard, I know, with the team performing as it is now. But the huge depth we have is actually a liability when it comes to development and new prospect acquisition.
Will we regret trading away certain prospect? You bet we will, every team that trades a prospect will sometimes regret it. But if it makes the current team 1 point in the standing better over the year, that can be the difference in making the postseason, or hosting a series.
You have to have faith that you will continue to churn out more prospects. And use them appropriately. When you have too many, you have to make room for new ones. Its a great place to be in.
Looking forward, we are going to be having some cap issues soon. There are going to be players we will not be able to sign. Or will have to choose between.
To that end, I'm going to get booed by saying it might be time to move Trouba. It does not seem to me that he wants to be here. He's not going to do or say anything to scuttle his career by saying that, but it is evident to me. The fact that he threw away at least $6mil he may never recoup by signing a 2 year contract, hoping that he can make that up on the back end, speaks volumes. He could easily have had a 5 yr, $6mil per deal. Not taking that means he need to make $8mil for 3 years just to break even. Not totally impossible, but tough. And if he were to suffer an injury, that guaranteed money would be gone. So, I'm not buying that he wants to be a Jet after this deal is done.
So, can you "Kane" bundle him? Trouba, Dano and Mathais for... can you get back a top level left handed D with a favourable contract (like Myers or Hamonic were)?
What would you want back for Trouba?
Quote from: The Zipp on December 22, 2017, 03:12:30 PM
only caught OT and the shootout...some good chances in OT - thought we were going to bury one but didn't...couple of the shootout shots were kinda weak but with split second decisions it happens...the point is good - two were within reach though.
Haven't paid much attention to the Islanders this year...are they any good?
Also haven't seen much of the eastern teams. From the sounds of it, they were pretty hot not long ago but have been having some recent struggles. I expect the game to be a bit easier than the Bruins.
I have tickets to the home game against the Isles, last game of the year, so I hope we hurt them and they come back wanting revenge!
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on December 22, 2017, 02:15:17 PM
Would we really want to do that? Especially with moving the prospects? I wouldn't. Move Matthias if you like, or possibly Dano, or both and get draft picks coming back. We draft well and have found some success and so therefore can double down on drafting and developing and ensuring we have a stream of stand out youth talent which is so crucial to remaining competitive these days.
Exactly right.
Quote from: theaardvark on December 22, 2017, 03:43:55 PM
To that end, I'm going to get booed by saying it might be time to move Trouba. It does not seem to me that he wants to be here. He's not going to do or say anything to scuttle his career by saying that, but it is evident to me. The fact that he threw away at least $6mil he may never recoup by signing a 2 year contract, hoping that he can make that up on the back end, speaks volumes. He could easily have had a 5 yr, $6mil per deal. Not taking that means he need to make $8mil for 3 years just to break even. Not totally impossible, but tough. And if he were to suffer an injury, that guaranteed money would be gone. So, I'm not buying that he wants to be a Jet after this deal is done.
In other words, you know absolutely nothing. And that's why you should be booed.
It was never made public what the Jets actually offered Trouba last year - it was just rumour. So, the fact is you don't know what he did or didn't throw away. He signed a bridge contract and rescinded his trade request. Since then, he's played top minutes more often than not and has been a major piece of the team's defensive depth, which is exactly what he wanted prior to re-signing.
Other noteworthy nonsense from your post includes the claim the Jets' organizational depth is a liability and that looking forward the team will have cap issues soon. The first statement is flat out absurd in its erroneousness and the other is simply straight up speculative fear-mongering. But if you really do believe the Jets will have cap issues in the near future, your wanting to acquire Tavares, a player who is going to command immense money and term, is therefore short-sighted and contradictory.
Quote from: blue_or_die on December 22, 2017, 04:22:14 PM
Also haven't seen much of the eastern teams. From the sounds of it, they were pretty hot not long ago but have been having some recent struggles. I expect the game to be a bit easier than the Bruins.
I have tickets to the home game against the Isles, last game of the year, so I hope we hurt them and they come back wanting revenge!
Jets are making them look pretty good so far....
Quote from: The Zipp on December 23, 2017, 06:35:36 PM
Jets are making them look pretty good so far....
Well this ones over...
Quote from: The Zipp on December 23, 2017, 07:28:42 PM
Mason isn't very good...
I have come to the conclusion he is a glorified Pavy
NOT GOOD at all!
Has the potential to be a dumb Cheve move.
I had others place higher ala Darling (whom I know didn?t quite make FA but I do not care, make the move) in off season back up goalies available
Errrr I would rather have Hutch as back up!!!
Former Jet, Alex Burmistrov retired form the NHL over the holidays.
Quote from: gbill2004 on December 27, 2017, 01:25:51 PM
Former Jet, Alex Burmistrov retired form the NHL over the holidays.
He might end up making more in the KHL in retirement than he was making here...
Quote from: theaardvark on December 27, 2017, 01:27:22 PM
He might end up making more in the KHL in retirement than he was making here...
Very true. I believe he was making around $900,000 in the NHL.
Quote from: The Zipp on December 23, 2017, 07:28:42 PM
Mason isn't very good...
He got zero help on Saturday, much like his third start when the Blue Jackets came to town. The team started off horribly and were down 2-0 not even three minutes into the game.
In his previous 5 starts, he posted a 1.6GAA and a .948SV% (FWIW).
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on December 23, 2017, 10:20:17 PM
I have come to the conclusion he is a glorified Pavy
NOT GOOD at all!
Has the potential to be a dumb Cheve move.
I had others place higher ala Darling (whom I know didn?t quite make FA but I do not care, make the move) in off season back up goalies available
Errrr I would rather have Hutch as back up!!!
Nonsense. Irrational nonsense.
And had you bothered to take a look at the stats, Darling isn't doing any better.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on December 23, 2017, 10:20:17 PM
I have come to the conclusion he is a glorified Pavy
NOT GOOD at all!
Has the potential to be a dumb Cheve move.
I had others place higher ala Darling (whom I know didn?t quite make FA but I do not care, make the move) in off season back up goalies available
Errrr I would rather have Hutch as back up!!!
Darling has looked horrible so far. I'd call him a bust.
What's wrong with Bryan Little this year? Is he playing through an injury?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 27, 2017, 01:59:29 PM
He got zero help on Saturday, much like his third start when the Blue Jackets came to town. The team started off horribly and were down 2-0 not even three minutes into the game.
In his previous 5 starts, he posted a 1.6GAA and a .948SV% (FWIW).
Nonsense. Irrational nonsense.
And had you bothered to take a look at the stats, Darling isn't doing any better.
Calm down nonsense I think not Mason hasn?t performedup standards if you watched the games he has been in.
Always nice to beat the oilers! The standings are pretty tight so it?s good to get back in the win column. The Scheifele injury does not look good though... Could be a long term injury. :'(
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on December 28, 2017, 02:51:37 AM
Always nice to beat the oilers! The standings are pretty tight so it?s good to get back in the win column. The Scheifele injury does not look good though... Could be a long term injury. :'(
Seriously?? I never watched a second of the game- what happened??
He got pushed into the boards awkwardly and was in a lot of pain. Seems to be a shoulder or collar bone issue based on how he dangled his arm and other reports. Coach said it didn?t look good after the game...
Really like the constant buzz the Jets applied in the 2nd & most of the 3rd. However, it was incredible to see them survive the final Oilers 2 minute onslaught
Don't want to jump to conclusions but tend to agree it does not look good for Scheif. Guessing Dano or Mathias better shake off the cobwebs.
Quote from: Jockitch on December 28, 2017, 03:27:03 AM
Really like the constant buzz the Jets applied in the 2nd & most of the 3rd. However, it was incredible to see them survive the final Oilers 2 minute onslaught
Don't want to jump to conclusions but tend to agree it does not look good for Scheif. Guessing Dano or Mathias better shake off the cobwebs.
Don't want to risk them getting injured before we can trade them... bring up Roslovic ;) .
Quote from: The Zipp on December 28, 2017, 02:53:16 AM
Seriously?? I never watched a second of the game- what happened??
Looks like a broken collarbone to me. Even Maurice said after that game that it doesn't look good. My guess is he's out 6-8 weeks.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on December 28, 2017, 03:12:38 AM
He got pushed into the boards awkwardly and was in a lot of pain. Seems to be a shoulder or collar bone issue based on how he dangled his arm and other reports. Coach said it didn?t look good after the game...
Did someone go after the guy who pushed him? Dirty shot?
Quote from: gbill2004 on December 27, 2017, 09:20:50 PM
What's wrong with Bryan Little this year? Is he playing through an injury?
He had a nice goal last night in his franchise leading 710th game. He typically flies under the radar and is pretty underrated, too. He's on pace for just shy of 50 points this season.
Quote from: The Zipp on December 28, 2017, 01:47:37 PM
Did someone go after the guy who pushed him? Dirty shot?
It wasn't a dirty play. Scheifele and Davidson got tangled up close to the boards and Scheifele went down awkwardly. It didn't look dirty or malicious but it looked pretty serious.
Rumour mill seems to be either broken collarbone or separated shoulder. I doubt we see him back until mid-February. :-[
How much longer is Buff supposed to be out?
Quote from: JMT21 on December 28, 2017, 03:59:05 PM
How much longer is Buff supposed to be out?
Sounds like he could be back early in the new year. (http://winnipegsun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/winnipeg-jets/byfuglien-trending-closer-to-return (http://winnipegsun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/winnipeg-jets/byfuglien-trending-closer-to-return))
Quote from: gbill2004 on December 28, 2017, 01:03:36 PM
Looks like a broken collarbone to me. Even Maurice said after that game that it doesn't look good. My guess is he's out 6-8 weeks.
And Maurice confirmed he's out 6-8 weeks with an upper body injury.
Quote from: gbill2004 on December 28, 2017, 06:28:08 PM
And Maurice confirmed he's out 6-8 weeks with an upper body injury.
That's some really bad news. :-[
http://illegalcurve.com/2017/12/28/winnipeg-jets-injury-news-mark-scheifele-out-6-8-weeks-with-upper-body-injury/ (http://illegalcurve.com/2017/12/28/winnipeg-jets-injury-news-mark-scheifele-out-6-8-weeks-with-upper-body-injury/)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 28, 2017, 06:40:22 PM
That's some really bad news. :-[
http://illegalcurve.com/2017/12/28/winnipeg-jets-injury-news-mark-scheifele-out-6-8-weeks-with-upper-body-injury/ (http://illegalcurve.com/2017/12/28/winnipeg-jets-injury-news-mark-scheifele-out-6-8-weeks-with-upper-body-injury/)
The good news is that the Jets have a one week break, and the all-star break during that 6-8 week timeframe, so Scheifele will only miss 16-22 games.
No recall from the Moose, no decision whether Mathias or Dano slot in. Wheeler to C, Perrault to RW on the first line.
Anyone know if Wheeler has ever player C before in his career?
According to Maurice, Wheeler entered the NHL as a centre so he?s familiar with the role. I think we?re going to go through a bit of an up and down stretch in the next while. Not that one player determines how the team plays, but Scheifele is one of the souls of the team. Hopefully he can be around the guys a lot motivating them. Bad, bad news for sure...
Quote from: gbill2004 on December 28, 2017, 07:27:29 PM
Anyone know if Wheeler has ever player C before in his career?
I?m pretty sure he played some games at C for us in the past couple of years.
Connor-Wheeler-Laine
Perreault-Little-Ehlers
Copp-Lowry-Tanev
Matthias-Hendricks-Armia
Morrissey-Trouba
Kulikov-Myers
Chiarot-Poolman
Very excited to see what the new top 2 lines can do. Would have loved to see Roslovic get a chance on the 4th line but I guess they were going for the known NHL quantity. Matthias was a reliable player when he was in the lineup. Maybe he can continue to create good scoring chances except capitalize on them more this time to keep our elite fourth line rolling! lol
I wonder if they rotate Matthias and Dano... showcasing them for trade purposes ;)
Quote from: theaardvark on December 29, 2017, 03:58:12 PM
I wonder if they rotate Matthias and Dano... showcasing them for trade purposes ;)
Matthias is on the trade block, and I heard Dano recently refused a conditioning stint with the Moose, so he might be on the move soon as well.
Quote from: gbill2004 on December 29, 2017, 04:04:54 PM
Matthias is on the trade block, and I heard Dano recently refused a conditioning stint with the Moose, so he might be on the move soon as well.
Where did you hear that? And why would he need a conditioning stint in the minors? ???
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 29, 2017, 04:50:16 PM
Where did you hear that? And why would he need a conditioning stint in the minors? ???
I heard it a couple weeks ago and I think it was on the radio - Jets asked him to accept a conditioning stint with the Moose and he initially accepted, but after speaking with his agent, he said no. He'd need a conditioning stint because he hasn't played in ages.
Quote from: gbill2004 on December 29, 2017, 05:22:37 PM
I heard it a couple weeks ago and I think it was on the radio - Jets asked him to accept a conditioning stint with the Moose and he initially accepted, but after speaking with his agent, he said no. He'd need a conditioning stint because he hasn't played in ages.
Who on that radio made the statement? I doubt it could've been a reliable source considering it was never reported elsewhere at the time.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 29, 2017, 06:11:31 PM
Who on that radio made the statement? I doubt it could've been a reliable source considering it was never reported elsewhere at the time.
I don?t recall. Sorry. Might have been TSN1290.
Quote from: gbill2004 on December 29, 2017, 07:20:53 PM
I don?t recall. Sorry. Might have been TSN1290.
No worries. Makes me wonder if it was Westwood who said it.
Another home win. Hoping Tanev isn't hurt bad...
Loved it when Morrisey blew a blade and was trying to get to the bench and another player gave him a push...
Solid effort from Hellebuyck. Definitely our MVP right now.
No Buff, Enstrom, Scheifele and they still beat the NYI handily, holding one of the highest scoring teams to 2 goals.
Great home win. It was fun to be there!
The shot clock made it look otherwise, but Helle made some fantastic saves and the Scheif-less O showed up!
I was lucky enough to go last night
My observations...
Wheeler was a absolute horse all night. Great night at center.
The D core all around was great while Helle was brilliant very strong game
Bit of a hangover today
Now the injuries are starting to pile up:
Enstrom
Buff
Sheifele
Tanev
Brandon Tanev out for at least a couple of weeks, per Paul Maurice. Joel Armia will take his spot on the third line with Copp and Lowry, while Marko Dano draws into the lineup for the first time since Oct. 27 (30 games) on the 4th line.
Maurice said Dustin Byfuglien should be back "in the next five days." Toby Enstrom another two weeks (Jan. 18) but could be earlier. #NHLJets #wfp
Poolman and Chiarot have been pretty darned good... haven't really missed the play of Buff and Enstrom. Maybe Buff's presence, but not really his play...
According to the Moose web site, Roslovic has been called up by the Jets today.
http://moosehockey.com/news/roslovic-recall-dec3017/
Shutout in Edmonton! 52 points in 40 games so far! Who saw that coming?? Not me, but I love it. What a ride this season is turning out to be!
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on January 01, 2018, 01:38:34 AM
Shutout in Edmonton! 52 points in 40 games so far! Who saw that coming?? Not me, but I love it. What a ride this season is turning out to be!
Perfect road game and an awesome way to close out the 2017 calendar!
And the Jets get some sweep, sweep revenge for last season. ;D
Another solid effort and great play from our depth guys... good on Dano coming out of the pressbox and scorting the game winner on the first shot we had.
All this with 27.7% of our cap allocation (our 3 highest paid players) on the IR.
Wow.
Well done Chevy
What Jet fan can't be jacked with the way the year ended. Great effort from the 4 lines, HellB found the puck & his feet were really controlled.
The defense adapted & found their coverage & limited Oiler attempts at rebounds.
Q: with Buff returning shortly ....... does he get a spot on the 3rd pairing with Pool or Chiar .......... or does he go back with Kuli ????
Not being the coach (gee what a surprise) I would suggest PM, have some kahunas, let Buff get less regular ice time vs Colorado.
Unbelievable to blow away Edmonton in their barn on NYE and sweep the series. Couldn't believe it.
Buff is likely back in the lineup tomorrow! I?d like to see some good old Buffy body crushing checks and maybe a dust up where he has multiple players by the jerseys :D We?ve missed his physicality and presence on the ice.
Dylan Samberg is impressing at the WJC's. The future is bright for the Jets!
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 01, 2018, 10:17:06 PM
Dylan Samberg is impressing at the WJC's. The future is bright for the Jets!
Vesalainen is having a nice tourney, too. The depth in the organization right now is absolutely insane.
Hellebuyck named the NHL's first star of the week: https://www.tsn.ca/jets-g-hellebuyck-named-nhl-first-star-of-the-week-1.956266 (https://www.tsn.ca/jets-g-hellebuyck-named-nhl-first-star-of-the-week-1.956266)
3-0-0, a shutout, 1.67 GAA, and a .952SV%... Bloody marvelous.
Great write-up on Laine and his potential as the next great NHL sniper:
https://www.tsn.ca/laine-on-track-to-become-nhl-s-next-premier-sniper-1.956848 (https://www.tsn.ca/laine-on-track-to-become-nhl-s-next-premier-sniper-1.956848)
(https://www.tsn.ca/polopoly_fs/1.956855!/fileimage/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/default/travis-yost-2.JPG)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 01, 2018, 10:35:20 PM
Vesalainen is having a nice tourney, too. The depth in the organization right now is absolutely insane.
Hellebuyck named the NHL's first star of the week: https://www.tsn.ca/jets-g-hellebuyck-named-nhl-first-star-of-the-week-1.956266 (https://www.tsn.ca/jets-g-hellebuyck-named-nhl-first-star-of-the-week-1.956266)
3-0-0, a shutout, 1.67 GAA, and a .952SV%... Bloody marvelous.
:o
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2018, 04:16:58 PM
Great write-up on Laine and his potential as the next great NHL sniper:
https://www.tsn.ca/laine-on-track-to-become-nhl-s-next-premier-sniper-1.956848 (https://www.tsn.ca/laine-on-track-to-become-nhl-s-next-premier-sniper-1.956848)
(https://www.tsn.ca/polopoly_fs/1.956855!/fileimage/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/default/travis-yost-2.JPG)
Thats pretty crazy
I'm scared of what Laine's next contract will look like. I'd say the discussion starts at $10 million, unless he's willing to take a hometown discount and to stay with his best friend Ehlers.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 02, 2018, 04:53:38 PM
Thats pretty crazy
Indeed. I'd imagine a Rocket Richard Trophy is in Laine's near future.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 05:03:06 PM
I'm scared of what Laine's next contract will look like. I'd say the discussion starts at $10 million, unless he's willing to take a hometown discount and to stay with his best friend Ehlers.
More than Ovechkin and Stamkos...? I find that hard to believe.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2018, 05:07:51 PM
Indeed. I'd imagine a Rocket Richard Trophy is in Laine's near future.
I could see him becoming a consistent 50 goal scorer.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 05:10:04 PM
I could see him becoming a consistent 50 goal scorer.
Oh, absolutely. He's practically a top line winger already.
What's cool about Laine is that he is actually a complementary piece that wouldn't have really fit that well with the Jets 5 years ago. We drafted/developed and nurtured so many Scheifeles and Wheelers and Littles and Perreaults, as well as other skill-guys like Ehlers who have pure speed and finesse. Laine is a pure goal scorer who will absolutely be super successful because the guys we have playing around him put him in position to do what he does best.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2018, 05:07:51 PM
More than Ovechkin and Stamkos...? I find that hard to believe.
Stamkos took less than market value to stay with the Lightning, and because Florida has lower state taxes. Ovechkin is making $10 mill per season now, even though the cap hit is slightly less. Plus those contracts were signed a while ago, especially Ovechkin's...as the cap goes up, so do salaries...just like inflation.
If Draisaitle is getting $8.5 per season, I can't see Laine getting less than that.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 05:18:58 PM
Stamkos took less than market value to stay with the Lightning, and because Florida has lower state taxes. Ovechkin is making $10 mill per season now, even though the cap hit is slightly less. Plus those contracts were signed a while ago, especially Ovechkin's...as the cap goes up, so do salaries...just like inflation.
If Draisaitle is getting $8.5 per season, I can't see Laine getting less than that.
Yeah I agree. The market has changed recently and we are now seeing these franchise players getting 10+. However, Chevy has been successful getting guys on very fair contracts for us. I guess there's a lot that can happen between now and then that will certainly change the scenario. This includes what other players of his calibre around the league re-sign for.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 05:18:58 PM
Stamkos took less than market value to stay with the Lightning, and because Florida has lower state taxes. Ovechkin is making $10 mill per season now, even though the cap hit is slightly less. Plus those contracts were signed a while ago, especially Ovechkin's...as the cap goes up, so do salaries...just like inflation.
If Draisaitle is getting $8.5 per season, I can't see Laine getting less than that.
And like Stamkos, Laine could be willing to do the same with another young, deep team on the rise in the NHL. I'm sure Stamkos isn't losing sleep on his decision and I think his recent contract will be the most prevalent measuring stick when it comes time to negotiate a long-term deal with Laine. They're very similar players in terms of style and skill set.
As for Draisaitl, he's making more than Scheifele, Kuznetsov, and Johansen, which is ridiculous. Chiarelli overpaid for him.
8 years at $8.5-9.0M AAV is doable for the organization, IMO.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2018, 05:38:05 PM
And like Stamkos, Laine could be willing to do the same with another young, deep team on the rise in the NHL. I'm sure Stamkos isn't losing sleep on his decision and I think his recent contract will be the most prevalent measuring stick when it comes time to negotiate a long-term deal with Laine. They're very similar players in terms of style and skill set.
As for Draisaitl, he's making more than Scheifele, Kuznetsov, and Johansen, which is ridiculous. Chiarelli overpaid for him.
8 years at $8.5-9.0M AAV is doable for the organization, IMO.
Chiarelli does come across as a bit of a boner.
I'd be very happy with Laine at 8x8.5.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2018, 05:38:05 PM
And like Stamkos, Laine could be willing to do the same with another young, deep team on the rise in the NHL. I'm sure Stamkos isn't losing sleep on his decision and I think his recent contract will be the most prevalent measuring stick when it comes time to negotiate a long-term deal with Laine. They're very similar players in terms of style and skill set.
As for Draisaitl, he's making more than Scheifele, Kuznetsov, and Johansen, which is ridiculous. Chiarelli overpaid for him.
8 years at $8.5-9.0M AAV is doable for the organization, IMO.
This is prolly what he will get..... and he will take it.
He knows full well what our team is and has. I doubt he will want to leave. Same with Trouba IMO.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 02, 2018, 07:00:21 PM
This is prolly what he will get..... and he will take it.
He knows full well what our team is and has. I doubt he will want to leave. Same with Trouba IMO.
I think Trouba is gone.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 05:53:21 PM
Chiarelli does come across as a bit of a boner.
I'd be very happy with Laine at 8x8.5.
Without a doubt. Even 8 years at $9M per would be pretty good.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 02, 2018, 07:00:21 PM
This is prolly what he will get..... and he will take it.
He knows full well what our team is and has. I doubt he will want to leave. Same with Trouba IMO.
I just wish we'd hear something - anything - regarding Trouba. I guess no news is good news but still, I hope Cheveldayoff can lock him up long-term. He and Morrissey are excellent together.
If I were Laine I'd be asking for a bridge deal or something semi-short term I wanted to hedge my bets (3 or 4 year deal). The guy is 19 years old and one of the youngest guys on the ice every night. He could take 8 @ 8.5 or something which would work out okay, but in a couple years, the guy will probably be worth Ovy money. 8.5 ish million is a lot but 10 million+ is a lot more. The salary cap is only going to go up.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on January 02, 2018, 07:04:50 PM
If I were Laine I'd be asking for a bridge deal or something semi-short term I wanted to hedge my bets (3 or 4 year deal). The guy is 19 years old and one of the youngest guys on the ice every night. He could take 8 @ 8.5 or something which would work out okay, but in a couple years, the guy will probably be worth Ovy money. 8.5 ish million is a lot but 10 million+ is a lot more. The salary cap is only going to go up.
Trouba?s bridge deal is probably hurting him. He?s not having a great season so far.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 07:12:31 PM
Trouba's bridge deal is probably hurting him. He's not having a great season so far.
That could play into the Jets' hands as far as negotiating a new contract is concerned. To be honest, I expected more from him this season, at least offensively. He's been solid enough in his own end.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2018, 07:20:41 PM
That could play into the Jets' hands as far as negotiating a new contract is concerned. To be honest, I expected more from him this season, at least offensively. He's been solid enough in his own end.
Could help the Jets in contract negotiations, but could hurt the Jets in terms of Trouba's trade value.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 07:12:31 PM
Trouba?s bridge deal is probably hurting him. He?s not having a great season so far.
I'm not sure about Trouba mostly because I don't know if he grades out to be one of the best defenseman in the league. I think Laine grades as the premier goal scorer in the NHL. Even if Laine never gets any better he'll still be scoring goals because of that shot of his. I think it's pretty low risk for him to take a bridge. As he matures (hard to believe he's only 19 and could still be playing in the Juniors) he'll get better on the puck and be a better all-around player. Every once and awhile he flashes the Mats Sundin look with his big frame on the puck. Expect more of that as he gets older.
Some people want to compare his stats to Ovy but keep in mind in Ovy's rookie season Ovy was 20 years old. Liane won't be 20 until April so he'll have basically played two full seasons in the NHL already. There's a giant difference between having success and 20 vs 18. What Laine has done is nothing short of incredible.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on January 02, 2018, 07:34:03 PM
I'm not sure about Trouba mostly because I don't know if he grades out to be one of the best defenseman in the league. I think Laine grades as the premier goal scorer in the NHL. Even if Laine never gets any better he'll still be scoring goals because of that shot of his. I think it's pretty low risk for him to take a bridge. As he matures (hard to believe he's only 19 and could still be playing in the Juniors) he'll get better on the puck and be a better all-around player. Every once and awhile he flashes the Mats Sundin look with his big frame on the puck. Expect more of that as he gets older. Some people want to compare him to Ovy but keep in mind in Ovy's rookie season Ovy was 20 years old. Liane won't be 20 until April so he'll have basically played two full seasons in the NHL already. There's a giant difference between having success and 20 vs 18. What Laine has done is nothing short of incredible.
Laine just needs to shave that beard...he looks like a potato farmer! :D
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 07:31:00 PM
Could help the Jets in contract negotiations, but could hurt the Jets in terms of Trouba's trade value.
Very true. I just hope that isn't a reality the Jets have to consider and they can lock him up.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2018, 07:04:44 PM
Without a doubt. Even 8 years at $9M per would be pretty good.
I just wish we'd hear something - anything - regarding Trouba. I guess no news is good news but still, I hope Cheveldayoff can lock him up long-term. He and Morrissey are excellent together.
Beginnimg of the year there was a interview with Trouba.... he said he wont talk contract during the season but thinks a deal will get done at seasons end and hes got no problem staying in the peg.
As for him playing great in his own end i agree. And him and Morrissey i agree they are pretty awesome. As for his offencive game i think its mostly because our team is different then its been. We can now roll 4 lines just about all the time.... our transition game is alot different now. All 4 lines are big and faster then they have been. Our D just needs to get the puck and make a play to the forwards and they are gone. His need to get down the ice and jump into the play isnt needed as much this year as in years past.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 02, 2018, 08:04:29 PM
Beginnimg of the year there was a interview with Trouba.... he said he wont talk contract during the season but thinks a deal will get done at seasons end and hes got no problem staying in the peg.
As for him playing great in his own end i agree. And him and Morrissey i agree they are pretty awesome. As for his offencive game i think its mostly because our team is different then its been. We can now roll 4 lines just about all the time.... our transition game is alot different now. All 4 lines are big and faster then they have been. Our D just needs to get the puck and make a play to the forwards and they are gone. His need to get down the ice and jump into the play isnt needed as much this year as in years past.
But that's what agents and GMs use in contract negotiations...it's all about the comparables, which are largely based on points production. I'd like to see Trouba sign long-term, but I'm not convinced he will - I think he wants to play in the US. Those pre-season comments could have just been said to kill any possible distraction.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 08:07:45 PM
But that's what agents and GMs use in contract negotiations...it's all about the comparables, which are largely based on points production. I'd like to see Trouba sign long-term, but I'm not convinced he will - I think he wants to play in the US. Those pre-season comments could have just been said to kill any possible distraction.
In a way thats true.... but is he scores 20 goals and ends the year at -30 thats not good either.
He may want to play in the US.....Butwhat if we move him or want to move him to a crap team? Or a team he has to play his offside? We wont move him to a winning team or a team he can play the side he wants. And there is nothing to say he will be signed by a winning team or a team he can play where he wants.
Hes on a pretty good young team that has potential to be very good for a very long time. Hes playing the side he wants and getting the min he wants.
Jus my 2 cents on it.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 02, 2018, 08:18:25 PM
In a way thats true.... but is he scores 20 goals and ends the year at -30 thats not good either.
He may want to play in the US.....Butwhat if we move him or want to move him to a crap team? Or a team he has to play his offside? We wont move him to a winning team or a team he can play the side he wants. And there is nothing to say he will be signed by a winning team or a team he can play where he wants.
Hes on a pretty good young team that has potential to be very good for a very long time. Hes playing the side he wants and getting the min he wants.
Jus my 2 cents on it.
Right now he doesn't have a no-trade clause so we can trade him anywhere. Having said that, no team is going to trade for him without some type of commitment that he is willing to sign with them long-term. At least that's how we'd get the most in return, versus a one year rental.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 08:22:36 PM
Right now he doesn't have a no-trade clause so we can trade him anywhere. Having said that, no team is going to trade for him without some type of commitment that he is willing to sign with them long-term. At least that's how we'd get the most in return, versus a one year rental.
Yup.... thats my point.
Same if he hits the open market.... nothing says he will get a long term deal for the money he wants and can play the side he wants and get the min he wants.
We can pretty much give him 3 of the 4 things he wants.
Good young team that will be good for years n years....... hes playing the side he wants.... hes getting the min he wants.
We arnt in the US and we wont give him a massive payday.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 02, 2018, 08:32:25 PM
Yup.... thats my point.
Same if he hits the open market.... nothing says he will get a long term deal for the money he wants and can play the side he wants and get the min he wants.
We can pretty much give him 3 of the 4 things he wants.
Good young team that will be good for years n years....... hes playing the side he wants.... hes getting the min he wants.
We arnt in the US and we wont give him a massive payday.
so 3 of 5
🙂
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 02, 2018, 09:10:13 PM
haha yes 3 of 5.... hit the wrong **** key
And if you're Trouba, why not go for 5 out of 5?
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 09:37:50 PM
And if you're Trouba, why not go for 5 out of 5?
He will never get it.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 02, 2018, 10:35:58 PM
He will never get it.
1. Minutes
2. Long-term contract
3. Right side
4. Money he wants
5. US team
Those 5 items don?t seem all that difficult. Please explain why you don?t think he could get all 5.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 10:39:05 PM
1. Minutes
2. Long-term contract
3. Right side
4. Money he wants
5. US team
Those 5 items don?t seem all that difficult. Please explain why you don?t think he could get all 5.
Where has it ever been definitively stated/reported Trouba would prefer to play in the US? And I don't mean rumours on social media or hearsay someone heard from someone else.
Trouba sat out last season because he wanted a bigger role on his strong side. He was given all of that, signed a pretty fair bridge contract, and then rescinded his trade request. And there's been not a rumoured whisper since of him being unhappy, wanting a trade, or wanting to play in the US.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2018, 10:46:47 PM
Where has it ever been definitively stated/reported Trouba would prefer to play in the US? And I don't mean rumours on social media or hearsay someone heard from someone else.
Trouba sat out last season because he wanted a bigger role on his strong side. He was given all of that, signed a pretty fair bridge contract, and then rescinded his trade request. And there's been not a rumoured whisper since of him being unhappy, wanting a trade, or wanting to play in the US.
Pretty sure credible sources reported it on social media like some of the TSN talking heads. But even if they didn?t, were just having a discussion here. Where there?s smoke there?s fire...may or may not be true.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2018, 10:46:47 PM
Where has it ever been definitively stated/reported Trouba would prefer to play in the US? And I don't mean rumours on social media or hearsay someone heard from someone else.
Trouba sat out last season because he wanted a bigger role on his strong side. He was given all of that, signed a pretty fair bridge contract, and then rescinded his trade request. And there's been not a rumoured whisper since of him being unhappy, wanting a trade, or wanting to play in the US.
All This.
I did explain it.
First if we do trade him he has no say in the matter. He goes. We could trade him to some crap US team with the right side full.
If he hits FA.... think he will get the rest? A good team willing to pay him huge and give him the side he wants and the min?
I dont think Trouba has put himself in any place to demand all this. Hes got a good gig here and id have to think he knows that.
Sry 84 after All this... the rest of my post was ment for gbill
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 10:57:51 PM
Pretty sure credible sources reported it on social media like some of the TSN talking heads. But even if they didn?t, were just having a discussion here. Where there?s smoke there?s fire...may or may not be true.
I remember credible sources after the 2015-16 season reporting Trouba was unsatisfied with his role and being deployed on the left side.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jacob-troubas-agent-says-client-requested-trade/ (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jacob-troubas-agent-says-client-requested-trade/)
https://www.nhl.com/news/winnipeg-jets-defenseman-jacob-trouba-requests-trade/c-282110382 (https://www.nhl.com/news/winnipeg-jets-defenseman-jacob-trouba-requests-trade/c-282110382)
http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/jets-jacob-trouba-requests-trade-says-opportunity-not-money-is-the-issue (http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/jets-jacob-trouba-requests-trade-says-opportunity-not-money-is-the-issue)
I don't recall reading anything factual about him wanting to play in the US or wanting more money than the Jets were willing to offer. It was strictly about wanting a more prominent role on his dominant side, which he got.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2018, 11:16:31 PM
I remember credible sources after the 2015-16 season reporting Trouba was unsatisfied with his role and being deployed on the left side.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jacob-troubas-agent-says-client-requested-trade/ (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jacob-troubas-agent-says-client-requested-trade/)
https://www.nhl.com/news/winnipeg-jets-defenseman-jacob-trouba-requests-trade/c-282110382 (https://www.nhl.com/news/winnipeg-jets-defenseman-jacob-trouba-requests-trade/c-282110382)
http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/jets-jacob-trouba-requests-trade-says-opportunity-not-money-is-the-issue (http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/jets-jacob-trouba-requests-trade-says-opportunity-not-money-is-the-issue)
I don't recall reading anything factual about him wanting to play in the US or wanting more money than the Jets were willing to offer. It was strictly about wanting a more prominent role on his dominant side, which he got.
I?m fully aware of those reports, but don?t play dumb. You know there was talk that he wants to play in the US. May or may not be true, but the rumours were out there. I do recall credible TSN/Sportsnet people tweeting that they heard Trouba wouldn?t accept a trade to Canadian teams (ie sign long term once traded).
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2018, 11:16:31 PM
I remember credible sources after the 2015-16 season reporting Trouba was unsatisfied with his role and being deployed on the left side.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jacob-troubas-agent-says-client-requested-trade/ (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jacob-troubas-agent-says-client-requested-trade/)
https://www.nhl.com/news/winnipeg-jets-defenseman-jacob-trouba-requests-trade/c-282110382 (https://www.nhl.com/news/winnipeg-jets-defenseman-jacob-trouba-requests-trade/c-282110382)
http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/jets-jacob-trouba-requests-trade-says-opportunity-not-money-is-the-issue (http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/jets-jacob-trouba-requests-trade-says-opportunity-not-money-is-the-issue)
I don't recall reading anything factual about him wanting to play in the US or wanting more money than the Jets were willing to offer. It was strictly about wanting a more prominent role on his dominant side, which he got.
Read this: http://www.thehockeynews.com/rumors/article/rumor-roundup-trouba-holdout-not-about-money-but-where-he-plays
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 11:21:05 PM
I?m fully aware of those reports, but don?t play dumb. You know there was talk that he wants to play in the US. May or may not be true, but the rumours were out there. I do recall credible TSN/Sportsnet people tweeting that they heard Trouba wouldn?t accept a trade to Canadian teams (ie sign long term once traded).
Im with 84 on this....
Sometime ppl read so much crap on the net its hard to remember whos said what.
I dont believe that was a issue. He wants right side top line and he has it.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 02, 2018, 11:32:06 PM
Im with 84 on this....
Sometime ppl read so much crap on the net its hard to remember whos said what.
I dont believe that was a issue. He wants right side top line and he has it.
Read this: http://www.thehockeynews.com/rumors/article/rumor-roundup-trouba-holdout-not-about-money-but-where-he-plays
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 11:32:48 PM
Read this: http://www.thehockeynews.com/rumors/article/rumor-roundup-trouba-holdout-not-about-money-but-where-he-plays
From 2016?
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 02, 2018, 11:37:51 PM
From 2016?
Correct. That was the discussion about when he sat out last season. Only a little over a gear ago.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 11:21:05 PM
I?m fully aware of those reports, but don?t play dumb. You know there was talk that he wants to play in the US. May or may not be true, but the rumours were out there. I do recall credible TSN/Sportsnet people tweeting that they heard Trouba wouldn?t accept a trade to Canadian teams (ie sign long term once traded).
Taking something at face value isn't playing dumb. But that logic could be applied to believing baseless rumours and hearsay all the same. I'm going by exactly what was reported and what was actually stated by both Trouba and his agent, because he signed his bridge deal when those reported and real concerns were addressed by the Jets.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 11:24:55 PM
Read this: http://www.thehockeynews.com/rumors/article/rumor-roundup-trouba-holdout-not-about-money-but-where-he-plays
Again, that's all based rumours. Dreger is as reliable as they come but none of that was ever substantiated, which was my point. It doesn't mean I'm playing dumb because I didn't buy it back then when I read it, though. Was it concerning then? Yes. Is it relevant now? No.
More than year a later and Trouba's playing top minutes on his dominant side. At this point in time, I have zero reason to believe what happened back then has any bearing on the present.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 03, 2018, 12:01:33 AM
Taking something at face value isn't playing dumb. But that logic could be applied to believing baseless rumours and hearsay all the same. I'm going by exactly what was reported and what was actually stated by both Trouba and his agent, because he signed his bridge deal when those reported and real concerns were addressed by the Jets.
Again, that's all based rumours. Dreger is as reliable as they come but none of that was ever substantiated, which was my point. It doesn't mean I'm playing dumb because I didn't buy it back then when I read it, though. Was it concerning then? Yes. Is it relevant now? No.
More than year a later and Trouba's playing top minutes on his dominant side. At this point in time, I have zero reason to believe what happened back then has any bearing on the present.
Well said.
Snake bit in OT once again. Perhaps buff had too much ice time in OT?? Lucky to get a point in that one. Jets played hard couldn't get the bounces. Helly had a great game especially in the 3rd
Trouba is probably after $10mil/yr. If someone is willing to pay him that, they will give him the minutes and the right side of the bed.
I'm kind of thinking we should hold on to him through his RFA years and hope someone signs him to a $10mil offer sheet. Probably the best return we'd get for him... 4 first rounders.
Even if its for $8mil, we still get 2 firsts a second and a third. Decent return.
If no one wants to pony that up before his bridge deal ends, then wait for the offer sheets, and if nothing comes, sign him to another bridge deal and then trade him.
Our D depth is pretty good, and getting better. I'd much rather sign Morrisey to a max contract length deal at $6-7 mil than give Trouba the $8mil+ it is going to take for him to recoup the money he left on the table with the bridge deal.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 03, 2018, 12:01:33 AM
Taking something at face value isn't playing dumb. But that logic could be applied to believing baseless rumours and hearsay all the same. I'm going by exactly what was reported and what was actually stated by both Trouba and his agent, because he signed his bridge deal when those reported and real concerns were addressed by the Jets.
Again, that's all based rumours. Dreger is as reliable as they come but none of that was ever substantiated, which was my point. It doesn't mean I'm playing dumb because I didn't buy it back then when I read it, though. Was it concerning then? Yes. Is it relevant now? No.
More than year a later and Trouba's playing top minutes on his dominant side. At this point in time, I have zero reason to believe what happened back then has any bearing on the present.
We can agree to disagree. Dreger is as credible as they come and he doesn't just put stuff out there for no reason. Proof will likely come this summer when Trouba either decides to re-sign or not.
Quote from: The Zipp on January 03, 2018, 03:51:27 AM
Snake bit in OT once again. Perhaps buff had too much ice time in OT?? Lucky to get a point in that one. Jets played hard couldn't get the bounces. Helly had a great game especially in the 3rd
OT is definitely not a strength of this team. Fortunately, it's a different format come playoff time. And for whatever reason, the Jets always seem to lose in Denver. Ah, well... Just take the point and go. Wheeler and Hellebuyck were monsters last night.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 03, 2018, 05:21:40 AM
Trouba is probably after $10mil/yr.
Based on what...? What a silly claim. We have absolutely no idea what Trouba is after. And no GM in his right mind would pay him $10M per year.
The rest of your post isn't even worthy of acknowledgement, much less a response. Your ongoing vilification narrative of Jacob Trouba is just strange.
Trouba isn't getting $10 million per year and I doubt that's what he's looking for. Based on his play this season, I'm guessing his market is in the $6 million per season. He would probably get 6-7 years if he wanted as term.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 03, 2018, 01:25:21 PM
Trouba isn't getting $10 million per year and I doubt that's what he's looking for. Based on his play this season, I'm guessing his market is in the $6 million per season. He would probably get 6-7 years if he wanted as term.
Precisely. Well said. Trouba is clearly confident in his abilities as a defenseman but he is not a delusional idiot. Remember: money wasn't his concern when he chose to sit out. For anyone to think he'd ask for a million more per year than the highest paid blueliner in the NHL (PK Subban - http://www.spotrac.com/nhl/rankings/2018/cap-hit/defenseman/ (http://www.spotrac.com/nhl/rankings/2018/cap-hit/defenseman/)) just smacks of utter ignorance.
I see no reason why Cheveldayoff wouldn't negotiate in good faith and give him a fair and reasonable contract when the time comes. He knows the worth of Jacob Trouba better than any armchair GM would.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 03, 2018, 01:25:21 PM
Trouba isn't getting $10 million per year and I doubt that's what he's looking for. Based on his play this season, I'm guessing his market is in the $6 million per season. He would probably get 6-7 years if he wanted as term.
Word was that he had a $6mil 8 yr deal on the table he turned it down. If that's true, he spent $6million dollars for the right to negotiate again next year. Six million to get more control over where he plays. $6,000,000.00 to have a better option at playing 30 other places.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 03, 2018, 01:21:26 PM
OT is definitely not a strength of this team. Fortunately, it's a different format come playoff time. And for whatever reason, the Jets always seem to lose in Denver. Ah, well... Just take the point and go. Wheeler and Hellebuyck were monsters last night.
Based on what...? What a silly claim. We have absolutely no idea what Trouba is after. And no GM in his right mind would pay him $10M per year.
The rest of your post isn't even worthy of acknowledgement, much less a response. Your ongoing vilification narrative of Jacob Trouba is just strange.
If he wanted to be a Jet, he would have signed a long term deal. Instead, he left more money than most of us will see in our lifetimes on the table. And he held out, not saying we make the playoffs if he's in the lineup to start the year, but it may have been a lot closer.
Scheifele, Ehlers, Little... all signed for long term, 55 and 27 for $6 mil'ish deals, and both of them I'd say are more important players on this roster than Trouba.
Not begrudging Trouba his right to seek the maximum contract he can, or his right to choose where he plays (withing the confines of the CBA). But I don't have to embrace him as a Jet, and am free to "vilify" his actions towards my team.
It almost feels like to me that he's is going to end up being our Matt Duschene. And that wasn't a healthy thing.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 03, 2018, 02:02:49 PM
Word was that he had a $6mil 8 yr deal on the table he turned it down. If that's true, he spent $6million dollars for the right to negotiate again next year. Six million to get more control over where he plays. $6,000,000.00 to have a better option at playing 30 other places.
That was rumoured and never substantiated, either by his camp or by the Jets. So, try again.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 03, 2018, 02:02:49 PM
If he wanted to be a Jet, he would have signed a long term deal. Instead, he left more money than most of us will see in our lifetimes on the table. And he held out, not saying we make the playoffs if he's in the lineup to start the year, but it may have been a lot closer.
Scheifele, Ehlers, Little... all signed for long term, 55 and 27 for $6 mil'ish deals, and both of them I'd say are more important players on this roster than Trouba.
Not begrudging Trouba his right to seek the maximum contract he can, or his right to choose where he plays (withing the confines of the CBA). But I don't have to embrace him as a Jet, and am free to "vilify" his actions towards my team.
It almost feels like to me that he's is going to end up being our Matt Duschene. And that wasn't a healthy thing.
Patently false. PK Subban signed a bridge deal with the Canadiens in Jan. 2013 and then negotiated a long-term deal in Aug. 2014. He wasn't traded until You have no idea how a bridge deal works or why they're even an option for young RFAs.
In one breath, you say his presence would've helped the Jets' playoff chances early in the season, but then proceed to say he's less important than other players. ???
Despite the fact the issues were resolved ages ago, you fixate on them to justify your sad, pathetic bias towards him, to the point you erroneously compare him to a self-centered prima donna like Matt Duchene. And then pull the free to do what I want because it's
my team" card. You're the first one on this forum to bring up empty seats at Jets games. How pitifully transparent.
Ask a guy like Mark Scheifele what he thinks of Trouba, one of his best friends since the two were drafted. Or Andrew Copp, a childhood friend who's known Trouba since they were 10 years old (https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/trouba-and-copp-the-michigan-connection/c-879448 (https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/trouba-and-copp-the-michigan-connection/c-879448)).
Get a clue and spare us all from these painfully oblivious comments rife with what ifs and spin.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 03, 2018, 06:22:36 PM
That was rumoured and never substantiated, either by his camp or by the Jets. So, try again.
Wow you sure aren't one for "non-official" statements. You do realize that there's a lot that happens without being officially being announced by a team, player or agent, right? Guys like Bob McKenzie and Darren Dreger and legit and very credible.
Whoop there it is blue_gold_84 on another posting tyrade!
Must be that time of year lol
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 03, 2018, 06:40:32 PM
Wow you sure aren't one for "non-official" statements. You do realize that there's a lot that happens without being officially being announced by a team, player or agent, right? Guys like Bob McKenzie and Darren Dreger and legit and very credible.
Should I be...? Speculation is fun and all but I'll stick with facts over unsubstantiated reports and rumours on Twitter. Reports during that time had the Jets offering him a 6-year deal, a 7-year deal, and a 8-year deal, as well as widely varying amounts of money. It was also reported back then had another team given Trouba an offer sheet, the Jets would've matched it. There were also reports saying multiple teams were interested in trading for him (BOS, DET, NYR, TOR, ARI, EDM), but nothing regarding what any team was willing to trade. That's a lot of inconsistency, so what's to be believed? What's to be gained by accepting "non-official" statements from those not affiliated with the organization?
And again, I never said McKenzie or Dreger weren't legit or credible. It's their job to dig for information and speculation around the league, and both do an excellent job of that. They look at all the angles and report everything equally, which is why they're legit and credible. But they never pass off that information as fact until they can confirm it with a respective GM or the like.
Take this article from McKenzie back on Oct. 31/2016 to see what I mean: https://www.tsn.ca/trouba-really-only-has-two-choices-1.596587 (https://www.tsn.ca/trouba-really-only-has-two-choices-1.596587)
Anyone who follows the Jets closely knows how Cheveldayoff operates, anyway. He plays his cards as close to the vest as any GM in the NHL, which only further fuels the speculative fires on social media. Add Trouba's agent to the mix, who operates in a similar fashion, and that's good for a raging rumour wildfire we saw back in late summer and early fall of 2016.
I think you're both wrong and that we don't know anything :)
I have no idea what's up with Trouba, and I've flopped sides several times. Not sure if there's any substance to what he says, or what pundits are squawking on about. This is going to have to be a situation we see play out, and I think one side is going to be right/wrong in the most black/white sense of the term.
I want to believe Trouba wants to sign here and the reasons for it make lots of sense, but the skeptic in me also think the rumour mill may have truth to it too.
\_(ツ)_/
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 03, 2018, 07:18:02 PM
Should I be...? Speculation is fun and all but I'll stick with facts over unsubstantiated reports and rumours on Twitter. Reports during that time had the Jets offering him a 6-year deal, a 7-year deal, and a 8-year deal, as well as widely varying amounts of money. It was also reported back then had another team given Trouba an offer sheet, the Jets would've matched it. There were also reports saying multiple teams were interested in trading for him (BOS, DET, NYR, TOR, ARI, EDM), but nothing regarding what any team was willing to trade. That's a lot of inconsistency, so what's to be believed? What's to be gained by accepting "non-official" statements from those not affiliated with the organization?
And again, I never said McKenzie or Dreger weren't legit or credible. It's their job to dig for information and speculation around the league, and both do an excellent job of that. They look at all the angles and report everything equally, which is why they're legit and credible. But they never pass off that information as fact until they can confirm it with a respective GM or the like.
Take this article from McKenzie back on Oct. 31/2016 to see what I mean: https://www.tsn.ca/trouba-really-only-has-two-choices-1.596587 (https://www.tsn.ca/trouba-really-only-has-two-choices-1.596587)
Anyone who follows the Jets closely knows how Cheveldayoff operates, anyway. He plays his cards as close to the vest as any GM in the NHL, which only further fuels the speculative fires on social media. Add Trouba's agent to the mix, who operates in a similar fashion, and that's good for a raging rumour wildfire we saw back in late summer and early fall of 2016.
The official party line from Chevy and Evander Kane's agent was that he never requested to be traded from the Jets. Yet after he was traded, it was revealed that he had requested a trade two years earlier. Trouba may or may not want to play in Canada, but I rarely believe the official statements. And I believe that "where there smoke, there's fire".
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 03, 2018, 08:01:58 PM
The official party line from Chevy and Evander Kane's agent was that he never requested to be traded from the Jets. Yet after he was traded, it was revealed that he had requested a trade two years earlier. Trouba may or may not want to play in Canada, but I rarely believe the official statements. And I believe that "where there smoke, there's fire".
There's no parallel to be made between Kane and Trouba. Kane was a locker room cancer more often than not as a Jet and it was a case of attitude and personality, not role or opportunity with the team. Kane was immature, arrogant, and rubbed his teammates the wrong way with his antics off the ice. I don't think it's reasonable to compare that situation to what happened with Trouba.
And sure, where there's smoke, there's fire - something we saw during Kane's time in Winnipeg every off-season. But the same can't be said for Trouba and there has been no smoke since he signed his bridge deal and rescinded his trade request back in Nov. 2016. He's simply focused on being the best player he can be: http://winnipegsun.com/2017/09/15/trouba-just-wants-to-play/wcm/83b375f0-e0df-49e6-aefd-82da6c2bf4bc (http://winnipegsun.com/2017/09/15/trouba-just-wants-to-play/wcm/83b375f0-e0df-49e6-aefd-82da6c2bf4bc)
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if you told me he was traded and I wouldn't be surprised to see him sign a long-term deal. I think it's about 50-50 and will probably come down to how the Jets want to spend their SMS dollars more so than anything from the Trouba camp. I think he'd sign the right deal.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on January 03, 2018, 09:23:55 PM
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if you told me he was traded and I wouldn't be surprised to see him sign a long-term deal. I think it's about 50-50 and will probably come down to how the Jets want to spend their SMS dollars more so than anything from the Trouba camp. I think he'd sign the right deal.
Agreed, I have no idea what will happen. I'm just going by what credible sources previously reported, but things can always change.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 03, 2018, 08:32:36 PM
There's no parallel to be made between Kane and Trouba. Kane was a locker room cancer more often than not as a Jet and it was a case of attitude and personality, not role or opportunity with the team. Kane was immature, arrogant, and rubbed his teammates the wrong way with his antics off the ice. I don't think it's reasonable to compare that situation to what happened with Trouba.
And sure, where there's smoke, there's fire - something we saw during Kane's time in Winnipeg every off-season. But the same can't be said for Trouba and there has been no smoke since he signed his bridge deal and rescinded his trade request back in Nov. 2016. He's simply focused on being the best player he can be: http://winnipegsun.com/2017/09/15/trouba-just-wants-to-play/wcm/83b375f0-e0df-49e6-aefd-82da6c2bf4bc (http://winnipegsun.com/2017/09/15/trouba-just-wants-to-play/wcm/83b375f0-e0df-49e6-aefd-82da6c2bf4bc)
I'm not comparing the two situations. I'm making the point that you can't always believe the official statements from players, agents and GMs.
How many players have "rescinded" a trade request, only to be traded shortly thereafter? Hard to stuff that genie back into the bottle. Hamonic is a prime example. After his family situation resolved itself, he was happy to stay on the Island, and then zoom... he's off to Calgary.
"We have a lot of depth on the blue line," Islanders general manager Garth Snow said. "It's going to give some of our younger D an opportunity to get some playing time, and we're really confident in that position moving forward. This was a situation that we felt we could capitalize and bring in some assets. Whether we use those in the draft or use them as a currency in a future player transaction, it's a good luxury for our organization to have."
Hamonic, who grew up in the Winnipeg area, had requested a trade to a Western Canadian team prior to the 2015-16 season for personal reasons. He rescinded that request after the season, when the Islanders won a playoff round for the first time since 1993.
Snow wouldn't comment on whether the trade was related to Hamonic's request last season.
Would love to pound Kane and the Sabres tonight!!!
Quote from: blue_or_die on January 05, 2018, 04:25:24 PM
Would love to pound Kane and the Sabres tonight!!!
would love to see clean wins in at least 3 of the next 5 before the week long break
Buff/SJS/Buff/Chi/Minn
Sweep would be great but winning both against the sabres and then 2 of the Sharks, Hawks and Wild would be OK with me
Maurice said today there's no surgery required for Scheifele and that he looking like a quick healer.
Quote from: The Zipp on January 05, 2018, 04:45:06 PM
would love to see clean wins in at least 3 of the next 5 before the week long break
Buff/SJS/Buff/Chi/Minn
Sweep would be great but winning both against the sabres and then 2 of the Sharks, Hawks and Wild would be OK with me
How quickly expectations change!
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 05, 2018, 05:02:51 PM
Maurice said today there's no surgery required for Scheifele and that he looking like a quick healer.
that's good news...i guess if it is a separated shoulder or small break it's just time needed...
Question for you guys: when Scheifele returns, would you keep Wheeler at centre or move him back to winger?
With the depth we have at winder, keeping Wheeler at centre might not be a bad idea. Could create some scary depth moving Lowry down to the 4th line centre.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 05, 2018, 05:22:55 PM
Question for you guys: when Scheifele returns, would you keep Wheeler at centre or move him back to winger?
With the depth we have at winder, keeping Wheeler at centre might not be a bad idea. Could create some scary depth moving Lowry down to the 4th line centre.
Prob move him back. Really depends on how the team does during this time.
Important faceoffs need to be taken by Scheif ....... however Wheels certainly looks even more prominent roaming at centre than at wing, in these early stages.
Am not a big fan of the Hendricks team leadership magic/image ......... sure he's vocal on the bench & Mathias & Dano got there 1st season goal of late
but ......... I believe in the leaders before he came ...... so out of the lineup if Little, Lowry, Wheels & Scheif are at center.
Quote from: The Zipp on January 05, 2018, 05:21:19 PM
that's good news...i guess if it is a separated shoulder or small break it's just time needed...
Maurice also said Scheifele will start lifting weights on Jan 15 and sounds like he could be out only 4 weeks. That?s two weeks less that the initial prognosis of 6-8 weeks.
Nice win against the sharks today.
Quote from: blue_or_die on January 07, 2018, 10:50:16 PM
The beat goes on...
Forsure..... they looked big, stronge and fast today. It looks like they are starting to look like they arnt trying to keep up with the bigger faster teams anymore. The others are starting to have to keep up with them.
Rolling 4 lines all the time and getting scoring from them is so important.
Liane and Wheels both had point scoring streaks broken in this game but we win 4-1. Wheels was a goal scoring not points. I think he got an asst today.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 07, 2018, 11:50:51 PM
Forsure..... they looked big, stronge and fast today. It looks like they are starting to look like they arnt trying to keep up with the bigger faster teams anymore. The others are starting to have to keep up with them.
Rolling 4 lines all the time and getting scoring from them is so important.
Liane and Wheels both had point scoring streaks broken in this game but we win 4-1. Wheels was a goal scoring not points. I think he got an asst today.
Yep, there was a time not long ago where we relied 100% on LLW. Couldn't be more different now. When you're saying, "wow, Matt Hendricks sure had a great game", something new is happening here.
Connor and Liane bot sat on the bench alot in the third... Connor seemed to be squeezing the stick pretty hard today. Could Roslovic being in the lineup have something to do with that?
Good win, and Hellebuyck was awesome again.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 07, 2018, 10:47:26 PM
Nice win against the sharks today.
Another impressive win in which the Jets showcase their depth. Hendricks' goal was sick, Perreault continues to roll, and Hellebuyck was once again stout between the pipes. Confidence is as high as I've ever seen it with this team.
BellMTS Place is not friendly to the visitors this season.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 08, 2018, 04:09:15 AM
Connor and Liane bot sat on the bench alot in the third... Connor seemed to be squeezing the stick pretty hard today. Could Roslovic being in the lineup have something to do with that?
No.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 08, 2018, 04:09:15 AM
Connor and Liane bot sat on the bench alot in the third... Connor seemed to be squeezing the stick pretty hard today. Could Roslovic being in the lineup have something to do with that?
Good win, and Hellebuyck was awesome again.
Whats Roslovic in the line up have anything to do with Liane or Conner?
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 08, 2018, 01:35:20 PM
Whats Roslovic in the line up have anything to do with Liane or Conner?
Nothing. It's just Aardsy reading into... nothing.
I'm sure he already thinks Connor wants to be traded now that Roslovic stole his thunder.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 08, 2018, 01:49:07 PM
Nothing. It's just Aardsy reading into... nothing.
I'm sure he already thinks Connor wants to be traded now that Roslovic stole his thunder.
LOL
Dano got 4:28 of ice time last night & 4:13 vs the Sabres Roslovic got just 7:57 of time last night Hendricks at 10:38 (usual time spent on PK)
Mathias got more time, 15:16 vs Sharks (mainly due to benching of Laine & Connor) otherwise a mere 6:10 vs the Sabres while Hendricks came in at 9:19.
Last 2 games is certainly not rolling with 4 lines
Nice to see PM cut Buff's time back to 17:53 & last nights 18:48. IMO our Dmen are efficient most times & it does not include when Buff hangs out for well over 23 minutes.
Buff was playing like he was stoned in that Shark game. Terrible pinch allowing a break away short handed, dumb dumb hooking call to put us down 2men only to be scored on shortly there after and I counted him wandering to the offensive zone caring less about his position no less than 3 times.
I have concluded he is a selfish player period. I say cut his minutes back even more until the message gets through if it ever will...
Laine and Connor were both benched late in the game. I was at the game and I noticed Laine in particular was floating around a lot.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on January 08, 2018, 09:31:07 PM
Buff was playing like he was stoned in that Shark game. Terrible pinch allowing a break away short handed, dumb dumb hooking call to put us down 2men only to be scored on shortly there after and I counted him wandering to the offensive zone caring less about his position no less than 3 times.
I have concluded he is a selfish player period. I say cut his minutes back even more until the message gets through if it ever will...
You conclouded that everything was garbage and should be tossed out long ago.
Seems that was wrong.
When your 4th line wins you the game and you up as we were you sit Liane and Conner .... pretty much ur first 2 lines.
its called taking advantage of having 4 lines
We sat players because we could.
We didnt need Liane or Conner at this point in the game.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 09, 2018, 02:58:20 AM
We sat players because we could.
We didnt need Liane or Conner at this point in the game.
Maurice called them out after the game (although not by name, it was obvious who he was referring to).
Meh, sitting out two young players still learning to play 200' late in a game where a lead had to be maintained is hardly newsworthy, IMO.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 09, 2018, 02:06:53 PM
Maurice called them out after the game (although not by name, it was obvious who he was referring to).
I never seen that.... ill have a look to see what he says.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 09, 2018, 04:12:11 PM
Meh, sitting out two young players still learning to play 200' late in a game where a lead had to be maintained is hardly newsworthy, IMO.
This.
If we were down or tied then ya i would question it but we wernt. Liane and Conner wont bring their A game every game yet. So IMO you play the guys that bring a more consistant 200 foot game.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 09, 2018, 04:20:40 PM
I never seen that.... ill have a look to see what he says.
Yep, there was lots of talk about it on TSN1290 on the post game show.
Mason in net tonight...
Go Mason Go!!
Need to win this road game - We are a better team than Buffalo - even with Mason in net
Quote from: The Zipp on January 09, 2018, 06:15:49 PM
Mason in net tonight...
Go Mason Go!!
Need to win this road game - We are a better team than Buffalo - even with Mason in net
Hope we can pull out a win for the poor guy. He's had a few really well played games when our scoring seems to lose power.
Quote from: The Zipp on January 09, 2018, 06:15:49 PM
Mason in net tonight...
Go Mason Go!!
Need to win this road game - We are a better team than Buffalo - even with Mason in net
Mason has not been good this season. Hope he has a good one tonight!
Good game to start Mason in IMO. Hope we can play great in front of him and not keep him too busy so we can leave with 2 points and a backup goalie with some regained confidence.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 09, 2018, 07:04:01 PM
Mason has not been good this season. Hope he has a good one tonight!
The play in front has not helped his cause much, especially in the four games vs. TOR*, @ CGY*, @ SJS, and @ NYI. In his last five starts, however, he's posted a 2.20 GAA and a .922SV%, which would indicate he's doing his job.
For whatever reason, the Jets seem to play a more careless and lazy game when he's in net. Hopefully, they show up tonight. They can't afford to give away points to bottom feeders.
*
take away these two horrendous games, and his season stats sit at 2.25GAA with a .919SV%
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 09, 2018, 08:44:45 PM
The play in front has not helped his cause much, especially in the four games vs. TOR*, @ CGY*, @ SJS, and @ NYI. In his last five starts, however, he's posted a 2.20 GAA and a .922SV%, which would indicate he's doing his job.
For whatever reason, the Jets seem to play a more careless and lazy game when he's in net. Hopefully, they show up tonight. They can't afford to give away points to bottom feeders.
*take away these two horrendous games, and his season stats sit at 2.25GAA with a .919SV%
Exactly this. I feel like Mason has been hung out to dry during some of his games. He?s played well lately and I?m fine with him going in for games. Hopefully he gets another win tonight. Time to crush the sabres.
Jets are big and fast.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on January 09, 2018, 11:33:45 PM
Exactly this. I feel like Mason has been hung out to dry during some of his games. He?s played well lately and I?m fine with him going in for games. Hopefully he gets another win tonight. Time to crush the sabres.
This game isn't exactly an exception tonight. Two PPGs allowed and then a weird bounce off the back board. Fortunately, the Jets are on fire offensively tonight.
Just gotta get the win. Mason is doing his part.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 10, 2018, 01:15:46 AM
This game isn't exactly an exception tonight. Two PPGs allowed and then a weird bounce off the back board. Fortunately, the Jets are on fire offensively tonight.
Just gotta get the win. Mason is doing his part.
Hate giving up 4 goals to the sabres. Great we scored 7 though!! Winning the ones we should!!
A dicey third but the Jets hold on and get the sweep.
The Jets are 5-0-1 since losing Scheifele. :o
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 10, 2018, 01:41:13 AM
A dicey third but the Jets hold on and get the sweep.
The Jets are 5-0-1 since losing Scheifele. :o
Bigger and faster
Quote from: The Zipp on January 10, 2018, 01:40:14 AM
Hate giving up 4 goals to the sabres. Great we scored 7 though!! Winning the ones we should!!
Finally should've been 6-2 had the boys been able to play cleaner and tighter late in the game. 6-4 had me nervous, especially with the momentum entirely on the Sabres' side.
But a win's a win! Onto Chicago. ;D
I don't blame Mason or the D on those 4 goals. When you pot that many in the net, it's hard for any team to fend off the furry of a really, really pissed off team. Buffalo has a great roster and can play hockey, despite their awful record. They remind me of us about 2 years ago, where we could look like could really play top notch, but get buried early and never really fight back.
My vote is we go with Mason Friday night and Helle Saturday night.
Let Mason ride a bit of confidence and momentum, and reward him by giving him 2 in a row. Gives Helle a bit of extra rest because man have we worked him lately.
Thoughts? Agree, disagree?
Quote from: blue_or_die on January 10, 2018, 01:25:13 PM
My vote is we go with Mason Friday night and Helle Saturday night.
Let Mason ride a bit of confidence and momentum, and reward him by giving him 2 in a row. Gives Helle a bit of extra rest because man have we worked him lately.
Thoughts? Agree, disagree?
Helle has an amazing record versus Minnesota so I think he gets that game on Saturday. That would mean Mason plays Friday. So I agree with you.
Quote from: blue_or_die on January 10, 2018, 01:25:13 PM
My vote is we go with Mason Friday night and Helle Saturday night.
Let Mason ride a bit of confidence and momentum, and reward him by giving him 2 in a row. Gives Helle a bit of extra rest because man have we worked him lately.
Thoughts? Agree, disagree?
Agreed on all points. Hellebuyck always shines vs. the Wild. Mason played well last night and I think he earned another shot. The Jets just can't step off the gas late in the game, though. The Blackhawks are a considerably better team than the Sabres.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 10, 2018, 01:33:12 PM
Helle has an amazing record versus Minnesota so I think he gets that game on Saturday. That would mean Mason plays Friday. So I agree with you.
Is it an afternoon game on Sat?
I wouldn't put it past Maurice to start Helle two in a row. So I usually expect him to start the first game.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 10, 2018, 01:33:12 PM
Helle has an amazing record versus Minnesota so I think he gets that game on Saturday. That would mean Mason plays Friday. So I agree with you.
True, but on the other hand, Mason is 8-12-3 career against Chicago and 8-6-1 against the Wild.
Quote from: Jesse on January 10, 2018, 01:55:17 PM
Is it an afternoon game on Sat?
I wouldn't put it past Maurice to start Helle two in a row. So I usually expect him to start the first game.
Game on Saturday starts at 6:00pm.
Quote from: Jesse on January 10, 2018, 01:55:17 PM
Is it an afternoon game on Sat?
I wouldn't put it past Maurice to start Helle two in a row. So I usually expect him to start the first game.
they have a week rest after these next two - I wouldn't be surprised to see Helly start both...either way we can win both.
Quote from: The Zipp on January 10, 2018, 02:34:34 PM
they have a week rest after these next two - I wouldn't be surprised to see Helly start both...either way we can win both.
Yeah. I think Mason got in this past game just in case Helle looks rough on Friday. But if he starts on Fruday, and looks good, I can easily see PoMo going back-to-back with him.
Quote from: Jesse on January 10, 2018, 03:53:23 PM
Yeah. I think Mason got in this past game just in case Helle looks rough on Friday. But if he starts on Fruday, and looks good, I can easily see PoMo going back-to-back with him.
Me to PoMo back to back with Helle likely. The reason Mason went yesterday. I'd start Mason Friday though if it were me. Helle needs his rest though bigger rest breaks are up coming for the jets.
For what it's worth, I think I'd play Helle in Chicago and go back to Mason in Minny.
Congrats to wheeler and hellybuck for making the all-star team!!!
Quote from: The Zipp on January 10, 2018, 10:28:49 PM
Congrats to wheeler and hellybuck for making the all-star team!!!
Could've been three had Scheifele not been injured. But this is still great news! Both have carried the Jets this season.
Quote from: The Zipp on January 10, 2018, 10:28:49 PM
Congrats to wheeler and hellybuck for making the all-star team!!!
X2
Both we deserved
Go Jets Go Vs Hawks and Wild
4 points would put the firmly in first place in the central heading into there break.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 10, 2018, 11:00:21 PM
Could've been three had Scheifele not been injured. But this is still great news! Both have carried the Jets this season.
If 55 is healthy, I don't think 26 gets the nod. Not that they don't both deserve it, but its rare getting 3 p;layers on the allstar team...
Quote from: theaardvark on January 11, 2018, 02:14:52 PM
If 55 is healthy, I don't think 26 gets the nod. Not that they don't both deserve it, but its rare getting 3 p;layers on the allstar team...
The Blackhawks had that just last season (amid considerable controversy) and they were fighting for top spot in the Central, just as the Jets are now.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 11, 2018, 02:25:53 PM
The Blackhawks had that just last season (amid considerable controversy) and they were fighting for top spot in the Central, just as the Jets are now.
I think the "controversy" part is key. The Blackhawks get a lot of love, and even on the radio they were saying if Crawford was healthy he'd be in instead of Helle. I feel like if the tables were turned and the Blackhawks were in first and the Jets were a bubble wildcard team, we would be getting our token single nomination and that would be it. I guess that's probably a consequence of the business side of it.
Quote from: blue_or_die on January 11, 2018, 02:29:43 PM
I think the "controversy" part is key. The Blackhawks get a lot of love, and even on the radio they were saying if Crawford was healthy he'd be in instead of Helle. I feel like if the tables were turned and the Blackhawks were in first and the Jets were a bubble wildcard team, we would be getting our token single nomination and that would be it. I guess that's probably a consequence of the business side of it.
I mean, there's controversy every year as far as ASG selections go. Every fanbase always ends up in arms over a perceived snub or a selection of a player not on their team. Unfortunately, the new format means every team has at least one player selected (which is silly, IMO), so it's inevitable there will be snubs for what seem like obvious choices.
The Blackhawks do get a lot of love, which is strange this season considering how mortal they look. Then again, it's just the ASG and has no bearing on anything. Might as well just have fun with it and enjoy for it what it is.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 11, 2018, 02:14:52 PM
If 55 is healthy, I don't think 26 gets the nod. Not that they don't both deserve it, but its rare getting 3 p;layers on the allstar team...
Probably but I don't think it would have been right. For some reason, Wheeler doesn't get a lot of respect but he's been head and shoulders our best and most consistent player all year.
Maurice announced that Helle is starting tomorrow versus Chicago.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 11, 2018, 07:53:14 PM
Maurice announced that Helle is starting tomorrow versus Chicago.
Good Call..... if we beat the Hawks I say let Mason play Minne.... if we lose to the Hawks... let Helly go back to back.
In a perfect world we'd let call up Hutch and let him go up against the Chicago... career 4-1-1 vs Hawks with .961SV and 2 shutouts... (yes I know.. waivers etc)
Quote from: JMT21 on January 11, 2018, 08:00:23 PM
Good Call..... if we beat the Hawks I say let Mason play Minne.... if we lose to the Hawks... let Helly go back to back.
In a perfect world we'd let call up Hutch and let him go up against the Chicago... career 4-1-1 vs Hawks with .961SV and 2 shutouts... (yes I know.. waivers etc)
In a perfect world Hutch stays with the Moose and is never called up to the Jets. Hutch isn't an NHL calibre goaltender.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 11, 2018, 08:02:37 PM
In a perfect world Hutch stays with the Moose and is never called up to the Jets. Hutch isn't an NHL calibre goaltender.
touche
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 11, 2018, 08:02:37 PM
In a perfect world Hutch stays with the Moose and is never called up to the Jets. Hutch isn't an NHL calibre goaltender.
He wasn't last year but the AHL is no joke and sometimes it takes goalies awhile. He could certainly be a late bloomer.
I'm of the mind that everyone sucked last year- both our goalies, and team D. It's gotten so much better this year. I feel like we gave up on Hutch and that he is capable of being a good NHL backup.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 11, 2018, 08:02:37 PM
In a perfect world Hutch stays with the Moose and is never called up to the Jets. Hutch isn't an NHL calibre goaltender.
NHL calibre against the Hawks
AHL vs everyone else ;)
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on January 11, 2018, 08:51:55 PM
He wasn't last year but the AHL is no joke and sometimes it takes goalies awhile. He could certainly be a late bloomer.
Perhaps. He sure seems to have found his game at the AHL level, though. Maybe Cheveldayoff can get something for him at the trade deadline. I can't see him being here beyond this season.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 12, 2018, 01:32:08 PM
Perhaps. He sure seems to have found his game at the AHL level, though. Maybe Cheveldayoff can get something for him at the trade deadline. I can't see him being here beyond this season.
I too wonder if he will be moved before the trade deadline. One reason that he MAY re-sign here and stay with the Moose is that his future wife is rooted here with her business and family. But he may want to get another crack at an NHL roster which likely won't happen here.
It's going to be tough not having any Jets games to watch for a week after Saturday's game....They may drop out of the overall top 10 during that time as other teams play out their games in hand. We should stay in the top 3 of the central division though. Win tonight and tomorrow, and the chance of being pushed down the standings lessens. Go Jets go!
I want blood after what happened last time we played Chicago.
Quote from: blue_or_die on January 12, 2018, 06:46:47 PM
I want blood after what happened last time we played Chicago.
💉me to👹
Kick some Chitown bum
I?d love too se Quenvilles head explode in a fury rage!!!
Hutch is coming up to the big leagues again!!
Winnipeg, MB - The Winnipeg Jets announced today that they have recalled goaltender Michael Hutchinson from the Manitoba Moose. The Jets also announced that they have placed forward Adam Lowry on injured reserve retroactive to Jan. 5.
Hutchinson, 27, has a 14-2-4 record with the Moose this season and he leads the AHL with a .942 save percentage, while his 1.94 goals-against average ranks third in the league. Hutchinson is tied for third among AHL goalies with 14 wins. Hutchinson was named AHL Goaltender of the Month for both November and December as he helped the Moose to a 16-game point streak (15-0-1) from Nov. 15-Dec. 22/17.
Hutchinson was drafted by the Boston Bruins in the third round (77th overall) in the 2008 NHL Draft and was signed as a free agent by the Jets on July 19/13. The Barrie, Ontario native has played 99 games for Winnipeg during the last four seasons and he has a 41-38-11 record with three shutouts, a 2.63 GAA, and a .910 SV%.
Michael Hutchinson
Goalie
Born Mar 2 1990 -- Barrie, ONT
Height 6.03 -- Weight 202 -- Shoots R
Quote from: The Zipp on January 12, 2018, 10:29:16 PM
Hutch is coming up to the big leagues again!!
Winnipeg, MB - The Winnipeg Jets announced today that they have recalled goaltender Michael Hutchinson from the Manitoba Moose. The Jets also announced that they have placed forward Adam Lowry on injured reserve retroactive to Jan. 5.
Hutchinson, 27, has a 14-2-4 record with the Moose this season and he leads the AHL with a .942 save percentage, while his 1.94 goals-against average ranks third in the league. Hutchinson is tied for third among AHL goalies with 14 wins. Hutchinson was named AHL Goaltender of the Month for both November and December as he helped the Moose to a 16-game point streak (15-0-1) from Nov. 15-Dec. 22/17.
Hutchinson was drafted by the Boston Bruins in the third round (77th overall) in the 2008 NHL Draft and was signed as a free agent by the Jets on July 19/13. The Barrie, Ontario native has played 99 games for Winnipeg during the last four seasons and he has a 41-38-11 record with three shutouts, a 2.63 GAA, and a .910 SV%.
Michael Hutchinson
Goalie
Born Mar 2 1990 -- Barrie, ONT
Height 6.03 -- Weight 202 -- Shoots R
OK, why? Is Mason injured? Bringing up Hutch makes no sense, as he will have to clear waivers to return. Unless the team has been trying to trade his $1m+ salary away with no takers, and now wants to see if someone will claim him... or are they going to try the Hutch/Helly combo again, and unload Mason?
Or...
Brian Munz @BrianMunzTSN
For those wondering, Mason is not feeling well so Hutchinson will back up Hellebuyck tonight for #NHLJets vs #NHLBlackhawks.So, as an emergency callup, he's not subject to waivers heading back, right?
Quote from: theaardvark on January 12, 2018, 10:39:18 PM
OK, why? Is Mason injured? Bringing up Hutch makes no sense, as he will have to clear waivers to return. Unless the team has been trying to trade his $1m+ salary away with no takers, and now wants to see if someone will claim him... or are they going to try the Hutch/Helly combo again, and unload Mason?
Or...
Brian Munz @BrianMunzTSN
For those wondering, Mason is not feeling well so Hutchinson will back up Hellebuyck tonight for #NHLJets vs #NHLBlackhawks.
So, as an emergency callup, he's not subject to waivers heading back, right?
Correct. Hutch is not subject to waivers because it?s an emergency call up.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 12, 2018, 10:49:34 PM
Correct. Hutch is not subject to waivers because it?s an emergency call up.
Correct
Energy graces.
Quote from: The Zipp on January 12, 2018, 10:29:16 PM
Hutch is coming up to the big leagues again!!
Winnipeg, MB - The Winnipeg Jets announced today that they have recalled goaltender Michael Hutchinson from the Manitoba Moose. The Jets also announced that they have placed forward Adam Lowry on injured reserve retroactive to Jan. 5.
Hutchinson, 27, has a 14-2-4 record with the Moose this season and he leads the AHL with a .942 save percentage, while his 1.94 goals-against average ranks third in the league. Hutchinson is tied for third among AHL goalies with 14 wins. Hutchinson was named AHL Goaltender of the Month for both November and December as he helped the Moose to a 16-game point streak (15-0-1) from Nov. 15-Dec. 22/17.
Hutchinson was drafted by the Boston Bruins in the third round (77th overall) in the 2008 NHL Draft and was signed as a free agent by the Jets on July 19/13. The Barrie, Ontario native has played 99 games for Winnipeg during the last four seasons and he has a 41-38-11 record with three shutouts, a 2.63 GAA, and a .910 SV%.
Michael Hutchinson
Goalie
Born Mar 2 1990 -- Barrie, ONT
Height 6.03 -- Weight 202 -- Shoots R
Good for him, though I hate gutting he Moose right now .
Quote from: Jesse on January 13, 2018, 12:23:42 AM
Good for him, though I hate gutting he Moose right now .
Good opportunity for Phillips, though.
Well, this game got pretty ugly in a hurry.
Jets just aren't looking sharp tonight.
Hard to knock the effort vs the Hawks.
Hawks almost looked like they were the road team. Without Panarin & Hossa the BH's are playing in a somewhat less skilled manner.
Glass was & had to be, extremely good to awesome ....... cuz the momentum the Jets got going & the chances created sure had me jumping in anticipation of more goals.
Tonight should be again very tough to gain an inch & great chances may be rare .......... GO JETS GO
Not a good opening frame. Slow, lazy, undisciplined... :-\
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 13, 2018, 11:58:02 PM
Not a good opening frame. Slow, lazy, undisciplined... :-\
Ya not really playing to well
Kids looking at days off.
I think its ok. Young guys that have played hard.
Even a guy like Matthieu Perrault looked like lost his mojo
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on January 14, 2018, 02:29:34 PM
Even a guy like Matthieu Perrault looked like lost his mojo
I think they were thinking more about their plans for the bye week, and less about the game at hand.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 14, 2018, 04:45:19 PM
I think they were thinking more about their plans for the bye week, and less about the game at hand.
Reminded me a lot of the game vs. the Islanders going into the Christmas break. No focus on the game at hand and they paid dearly for it.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 14, 2018, 06:00:31 PM
Reminded me a lot of the game vs. the Islanders going into the Christmas break. No focus on the game at hand and they paid dearly for it.
mmm great point I agree 100%
They all seemed off base.
For sure their minds were elsewhere already. I know I have a hard time concentrating at work in the days leading up to a vacation too.
Quote from: drahgon on January 15, 2018, 07:15:53 PM
For sure their minds were elsewhere already. I know I have a hard time concentrating at work in the days leading up to a vacation too.
me 3
randy turner @randyturner15
I'm gonna be honest. Prior to 2011, I never thought Winnipeg would have two professional hockey teams better than the Coyotes.
Wow. Tough scheduled in regards to opponents coming up in regards to the next 10 games - thankfully lots at home...hopefully the bye week that flies off fast and they are focussed on this next stretch of games. Nothing is easy.
Wonder what's going on...emergency recall again?? That seems odd unless someone is hurt...
Winnipeg, MB - The Winnipeg Jets announced today that they have recalled goaltender Michael Hutchinson and forward Jack Roslovic from the Manitoba Moose.
Hutchinson, 27, has a 14-2-4 record with the Moose this season and he leads the AHL with a .942 save percentage, while his 1.94 goals-against average ranks third in the league. Hutchinson is tied for third among AHL goalies with 14 wins. Hutchinson was named AHL Goaltender of the Month for both November and December as he helped the Moose to a 16-game point streak (15-0-1) from Nov. 15-Dec. 22/17. Hutchinson and Roslovic were both named to the roster for the AHL All-Star Classic.
Hutchinson was drafted by the Boston Bruins in the third round (77th overall) in the 2008 NHL Draft and was signed as a free agent by the Jets on July 19/13. The Barrie, Ontario native has not played for the Jets this year, but he has played 99 games for Winnipeg during the last four seasons and he has a 41-38-11 record with three shutouts, a 2.63 GAA, and a .910 SV%.
Roslovic, 20, played in four games for the Jets earlier this season, including his first home game for Winnipeg on Jan. 5 versus Buffalo. The product of Columbus, Ohio also has 35 points (15G, 20A) in 32 games with the Moose this season and is tied for seventh in the AHL for points. Roslovic was selected as the AHL's Player of the Month for November after he recorded 19 points (8G, 11A) in 14 games.
Roslovic was drafted by the Jets in the first round (25th overall) in the 2015 NHL Draft.
Quote from: The Zipp on January 19, 2018, 02:07:41 PM
Wonder what's going on...emergency recall again?? That seems odd unless someone is hurt...
Winnipeg, MB - The Winnipeg Jets announced today that they have recalled goaltender Michael Hutchinson and forward Jack Roslovic from the Manitoba Moose.
Hutchinson, 27, has a 14-2-4 record with the Moose this season and he leads the AHL with a .942 save percentage, while his 1.94 goals-against average ranks third in the league. Hutchinson is tied for third among AHL goalies with 14 wins. Hutchinson was named AHL Goaltender of the Month for both November and December as he helped the Moose to a 16-game point streak (15-0-1) from Nov. 15-Dec. 22/17. Hutchinson and Roslovic were both named to the roster for the AHL All-Star Classic.
Hutchinson was drafted by the Boston Bruins in the third round (77th overall) in the 2008 NHL Draft and was signed as a free agent by the Jets on July 19/13. The Barrie, Ontario native has not played for the Jets this year, but he has played 99 games for Winnipeg during the last four seasons and he has a 41-38-11 record with three shutouts, a 2.63 GAA, and a .910 SV%.
Roslovic, 20, played in four games for the Jets earlier this season, including his first home game for Winnipeg on Jan. 5 versus Buffalo. The product of Columbus, Ohio also has 35 points (15G, 20A) in 32 games with the Moose this season and is tied for seventh in the AHL for points. Roslovic was selected as the AHL's Player of the Month for November after he recorded 19 points (8G, 11A) in 14 games.
Roslovic was drafted by the Jets in the first round (25th overall) in the 2015 NHL Draft.
It must mean Mason is still not 100% and one of Lowry or Tanev remains out, too. I think it's the latter.
Quote from: The Zipp on January 19, 2018, 02:07:41 PM
Wonder what's going on...emergency recall again?? That seems odd unless someone is hurt...
Winnipeg, MB - The Winnipeg Jets announced today that they have recalled goaltender Michael Hutchinson and forward Jack Roslovic from the Manitoba Moose.
Hutchinson, 27, has a 14-2-4 record with the Moose this season and he leads the AHL with a .942 save percentage, while his 1.94 goals-against average ranks third in the league. Hutchinson is tied for third among AHL goalies with 14 wins. Hutchinson was named AHL Goaltender of the Month for both November and December as he helped the Moose to a 16-game point streak (15-0-1) from Nov. 15-Dec. 22/17. Hutchinson and Roslovic were both named to the roster for the AHL All-Star Classic.
Hutchinson was drafted by the Boston Bruins in the third round (77th overall) in the 2008 NHL Draft and was signed as a free agent by the Jets on July 19/13. The Barrie, Ontario native has not played for the Jets this year, but he has played 99 games for Winnipeg during the last four seasons and he has a 41-38-11 record with three shutouts, a 2.63 GAA, and a .910 SV%.
Roslovic, 20, played in four games for the Jets earlier this season, including his first home game for Winnipeg on Jan. 5 versus Buffalo. The product of Columbus, Ohio also has 35 points (15G, 20A) in 32 games with the Moose this season and is tied for seventh in the AHL for points. Roslovic was selected as the AHL's Player of the Month for November after he recorded 19 points (8G, 11A) in 14 games.
Roslovic was drafted by the Jets in the first round (25th overall) in the 2015 NHL Draft.
Steve Mason is likely still suffering from concussion like symptoms after taking that Laine shot off he mask in practice.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 19, 2018, 02:17:29 PM
Steve Mason is likely still suffering from concussion like symptoms after taking that Laine shot off he mask in practice.
Last update Paul Maurice gave on Mason was almost a week ago and said that he still was not feeling well.
Mathias also had sat out the previous game ....... so is it ...... Tanev, Lowry &/or Mathias that are still on the shelf ?? All 3, 2 of them or just 1 out for tomorrow ??
Quote from: Jockitch on January 19, 2018, 05:19:49 PM
Mathias also had sat out the previous game ....... so is it ...... Tanev, Lowry &/or Mathias that are still on the shelf ?? All 3, 2 of them or just 1 out for tomorrow ??
Only injury updates that have been released so far is Maurice confirmed that Mason suffered another concussion, and that Lowry is OUT this weekend.
No word yet on Tanev or Mathias.
Hutchinson and Roslovic have been recalled from the Moose.
Quote from: Chris1982 on January 19, 2018, 05:41:36 PM
Only injury updates that have been released so far is Maurice confirmed that Mason suffered another concussion, and that Lowry is OUT this weekend.
No word yet on Tanev or Mathias.
Hutchinson and Roslovic have been recalled from the Moose.
Ugh Mason is damaged goods 2 concussions and he?s barely played!
This is Mason's 2nd concussion in less than 2 months. The first one he suffered was Nov 25th vs SJS.
That was from Sara O...
This doesn't bode well for Mason IMO. I think we will see Hutch between the pipes soon.
When Hutchinson got called up for the recent Chicago game it was on an emergency basis, which I believe meant he didn't need to clear waivers when being sent back down. Is this a regular call up meaning that he would need to go through waivers or does he somehow stay on the roster the rest of the year?
I ask because he was mentioned as potential trade bait earlier this year, and we wouldn't want to lose him for nothing.
Quote from: Stretch on January 19, 2018, 07:07:55 PM
When Hutchinson got called up for the recent Chicago game it was on an emergency basis, which I believe meant he didn't need to clear waivers when being sent back down. Is this a regular call up meaning that he would need to go through waivers or does he somehow stay on the roster the rest of the year?
I ask because he was mentioned as potential trade bait earlier this year, and we wouldn't want to lose him for nothing.
Mason will be the one traded not Hutch.
Hutch vs Canucks at home on Sunday??
He finally speaks to the media:
Paul Friesen
#NHLJets play 4 in 6, so Hutchinson will likely get his chance soon. "He's gone down and done everything he could do to get a chance to be the guy that got called up this time. And then very probably he's going to get himself into a game, and that's the chance again." P Maurice
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Hutchinson, UFA this summer, on whether he's looking fwd to a change of scenery: "I'll cross that bridge in the summer when I come to it. Right now I'm just here to help any team I'm on, whether it's the Moose or the Jets or wherever.? #NHLJets
Another Hutchinson on his status: "All season you don't really know what's going on. You sometimes think you're on the Moose, you sometimes think you're staying. It's a complete roller-coaster ride.? #NHLJets
Hutchinson on now trying to help the people whom he's been trying to prove wrong all season: ?Yeah, hockey's a funny game. It is different. Kind of an awkward atmosphere." #NHLJets.
Hutchinson: "There's still days when you come to the rink and you're pissed off you're down there. There's two ways you can go about it. You can just sulk and let your game turn to crap, or you can use it as motivation and to prove the people that put you there wrong." #NHLJets.
#NHLJets goalie Michael Hutchinson's first comments to reporters about his demotion this season: ?If you get demoted in your job you're going to be pissed off. Being sent down is getting demoted. There's no way of sugar-coating it. It sucks. I was pissed off."
Well, can't say he wasn't being honest.
I'm very happy for him that he was able to elevate his game and dominate the AHL, but the tone of his comments seem to indicate that he doesn't understand why it came to that.
How is "hockey a funny game"? You don't perform, you don't get to play in the world's top league. Seems pretty straightforward, and how most jobs work.
One way of dumping Mason's contract... IR it... let him collect the insurance. Hellebuyck / Hutch for this year, and COmrie up for next... no problem with that at all now... comimg into the season, not so much, but every goalie except Mason has been lights out...
Quote from: theaardvark on January 19, 2018, 09:56:11 PM
One way of dumping Mason's contract... IR it... let him collect the insurance. Hellebuyck / Hutch for this year, and COmrie up for next... no problem with that at all now... comimg into the season, not so much, but every goalie except Mason has been lights out...
i agree with Ards on this one
Quote from: theaardvark on January 19, 2018, 09:56:11 PM
One way of dumping Mason's contract... IR it... let him collect the insurance. Hellebuyck / Hutch for this year, and COmrie up for next... no problem with that at all now... comimg into the season, not so much, but every goalie except Mason has been lights out...
I highly doubt a doctor will certify that Mason?s career is over at this point.
I wish someone would have asked Hutchinson what he felt like he did last year to warrant a job on the Jets as opposed to the Moose. He was a weak link last year and didn?t show much promise in the preseason. I get his frustration and disappointment but I?m not liking his attitude about it. Prove yourself (which he?s done) and earn your spot (which he is) It?s the nature of the business in sports.
We were never trading Hutch.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on January 19, 2018, 11:30:34 PM
I wish someone would have asked Hutchinson what he felt like he did last year to warrant a job on the Jets as opposed to the Moose. He was a weak link last year and didn?t show much promise in the preseason. I get his frustration and disappointment but I?m not liking his attitude about it. Prove yourself (which he?s done) and earn your spot (which he is) It?s the nature of the business in sports.
What?s wrong with him being honest about his feelings? I like the non-stock answer. And it was hardly anything shocking.
A Hellebuyck/Hutchinson tandem for the moment could work but I'm not sure if that's a long-term solution for the balance of the regular season. The latter has played great in the AHL but that doesn't necessarily translate to success at the next level.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on January 19, 2018, 11:30:34 PM
I wish someone would have asked Hutchinson what he felt like he did last year to warrant a job on the Jets as opposed to the Moose. He was a weak link last year and didn?t show much promise in the preseason. I get his frustration and disappointment but I?m not liking his attitude about it. Prove yourself (which he?s done) and earn your spot (which he is) It?s the nature of the business in sports.
Neither he nor Hellebuyck played well last season and it was reflected in their stats.
And he simply expressed his frustration with being demoted. The organization had to improve its goaltending and he was the odd man out. I don't think what he said to the media shows him having a bad attitude, though. He's handled the demotion like a professional and has made the most of it based on how well he's played with the Moose.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 20, 2018, 01:55:38 AM
We were never trading Hutch.
He could be trade bait going into the final month before the trade deadline.
Quote from: Jesse on January 20, 2018, 02:04:26 AM
What?s wrong with him being honest about his feelings? I like the non-stock answer. And it was hardly anything shocking.
Agreed. He was candid about his situation and that's better than the usual canned response we've grown accustomed to seeing in pro sports.
LOWRY and MATTHIAS both still officially out today.
Tanev will play.
Offense-
Connor Wheeler Laine
Perreault Little Ehlers
Tanev Copp Armia
Dano Hendricks Roslovic
Defense-
Morrissey Trouba
Kulikov Myers
Enstrom Byfuglien
Not a very exciting game by either team but the Jets take the second point and break the Flames' win streak!
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on January 19, 2018, 11:30:34 PM
I wish someone would have asked Hutchinson what he felt like he did last year to warrant a job on the Jets as opposed to the Moose. He was a weak link last year and didn?t show much promise in the preseason. I get his frustration and disappointment but I?m not liking his attitude about it. Prove yourself (which he?s done) and earn your spot (which he is) It?s the nature of the business in sports.
Exactly! He has been a disappointment to the Jets fans. Yes, he's played great for the Moose, and I hope he proves he's a world-beater
in the NHL... but so far, he hasn't done it.
Quote from: In Motion on January 21, 2018, 02:31:38 AM
Exactly! He has been a disappointment to the Jets fans. Yes, he's played great for the Moose, and I hope he proves he's a world-beater
in the NHL... but so far, he hasn't done it.
No, he hasn't. Unless those Jets fans set the bar too high with him, in which case they have only themselves to blame.
Hutchinson had a stretch of maybe 20 games where he was lights out at the NHL level. That's it. Any fans who expected him to be a world beater at any point are just fooling themselves.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 21, 2018, 02:36:01 AM
No, he hasn't. Unless those Jets fans set the bar too high with him, in which case they have only themselves to blame.
Hutchinson had a stretch of maybe 20 games where he was lights out at the NHL level. That's it. Any fans who expected him to be a world beater at any point are just fooling themselves.
Its not the Jets thing to trade. Its more to develop our own. We didnt draft Hutch but we have put in time with him.
I think we will go Helly n Hutch. We can control cost this way.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 21, 2018, 05:22:27 AM
Its not the Jets thing to trade. Its more to develop our own. We didnt draft Hutch but we have put in time with him.
I think we will go Helly n Hutch. We can control cost this way.
Bucksy and Hutch... they need a striped tomato...
Solid for the rest of the 2017/2018 season, and then Hellebuyck / Comrie next year...
Quote from: theaardvark on January 21, 2018, 02:10:21 PM
Bucksy and Hutch... they need a striped tomato...
Solid for the rest of the 2017/2018 season, and then Hellebuyck / Comrie next year...
Comrie looks nowhere near ready for the NHL. Here?s hoping Mason returns soon.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 21, 2018, 05:22:27 AM
Its not the Jets thing to trade. Its more to develop our own. We didnt draft Hutch but we have put in time with him.
I think we will go Helly n Hutch. We can control cost this way.
I don't understand what you're saying. Hutchinson isn't a developmental piece now, if he ever was. He's a pending UFA and there's been no indication the Jets intend to keep him around after the season.
Hutchinson stays up as long as Mason is on IR. That's the only reason he's with the big club. It's not about controlling cost or developing him (he's almost 28 years old).
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 21, 2018, 02:12:36 PM
Comrie looks nowhere near ready for the NHL. Here?s hoping Mason returns soon.
Agreed on both counts. The Jets are a better team with Mason healthy, too.
Another home win...another helly shutout...should have won 5-0 - just couldn't a break on some scoring chances. Tough 5 games coming up!!
Scary moment there where Morrissey's stick blade got through Hellebuyck's cage and nicked him. Thank Jeebus he's okay.
It'd be nice to get a few more points going into the All-Star Break.
Hellebuyck named NHL second star of the week: https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/hellebuyck-named-second-star-of-the-week/c-295172188 (https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/hellebuyck-named-second-star-of-the-week/c-295172188)
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Hellebuyck, 24, led the Jets to two straight wins last week coming out of the player break. He stopped 30 of 31 shots and also saved both shootout attempts in a 2-1 shootout win against the Calgary Flames on Saturday before starting again the next night and saving all 29 shots in a 1-0 shutout victory against the Vancouver Canucks on Sunday. In total, he saved 59 of the 60 shots he faced last week for a .983 save percentage. He also had a 0.48 goals-against average in the two games.
Jets recall Lemieux: https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/jets-recall-brendan-lemieux/c-295178506 (https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/jets-recall-brendan-lemieux/c-295178506)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 22, 2018, 08:30:04 PM
Hellebuyck named NHL second star of the week: https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/hellebuyck-named-second-star-of-the-week/c-295172188 (https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/hellebuyck-named-second-star-of-the-week/c-295172188)
Jets recall Lemieux: https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/jets-recall-brendan-lemieux/c-295178506 (https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/jets-recall-brendan-lemieux/c-295178506)
amazing re Helle
Great read: https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/23/5015789/ (https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/23/5015789/)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 23, 2018, 07:59:05 PM
Great read: https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/23/5015789/ (https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/23/5015789/)
That was good.... thanks man
First OT win... Buff with the one hand puck carry around the net wraparound, and Little puts back the miss...
Not at all pretty, but 2 points...
On another note, do they still have rookie stuff at the all star game? Do we have anyone going?
Nothing like that bleary eyed look at your phone at 5:45am to see your team pulled out a OT win :)
Big win last night. Nice to finally see an OT win!
I sure hope Kulikov is alright. :-[
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 24, 2018, 01:12:37 PM
Big win last night. Nice to finally see an OT win!
I sure hope Kulikov is alright. :-[
What happened to Kulikov?
Managed to stay up late for once! Really enjoyed the game, although it was not fun to watch our 3 goal lead disappear. Quite the blitz at the end to go to 4-4, and then the OT goal by Little off Buff's wraparound was delightful.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 24, 2018, 01:17:24 PM
What happened to Kulikov?
creamed into the boards...blood everywhere...prob broken nose...Hertl got tossed from the game.
Quote from: The Zipp on January 24, 2018, 01:33:11 PM
creamed into the boards...blood everywhere...prob broken nose...Hertl got tossed from the game.
Yikes...that's not good. Hopefully he's okay and if it is a broken nose, he can probably keep playing with a cage on his helmet. Kulikov has been solid this season.
Maurice sounds optimistic on Kulikov and I think it was his chin, not his nose.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 24, 2018, 01:45:13 PM
Maurice sounds optimistic on Kulikov and I think it was his chin, not his nose.
That's good. Hard to tell on tv...the hit...blood...trainers came out and basically covered his face with a towel. Hopefully not a concussion...
Quote from: The Zipp on January 24, 2018, 01:47:48 PM
That's good. Hard to tell on tv...the hit...blood...trainers came out and basically covered his face with a towel. Hopefully not a concussion...
I was wondering about concussion as well in addition to some sort of gash somewhere. It sounded like he needed a bunch of stitches. Any word if there might be any supplemental discipline for Hertl?
guessing the hit put a bit of strain on Kuli's jaw ...... which can certainly cloud the senses.
Buff (nice play on winner) got off the hook after taking that idiotic penalty with under 5 minutes to go (course the Sharks helped by shortly after taking a too many men penalty)
Lowry not dressed & it appears he may miss the Duck game. Dano continues to get minimal ice time ....... Chevy, please move this guy.
Roslovic got a lot of Connor's time up with Laine & Wheel's
Quote from: Jockitch on January 24, 2018, 05:54:01 PM
guessing the hit put a bit of strain on Kuli's jaw ...... which can certainly cloud the senses.
Buff (nice play on winner) got off the hook after taking that idiotic penalty with under 5 minutes to go (course the Sharks helped by shortly after taking a too many men penalty)
Lowry not dressed & it appears he may miss the Duck game. Dano continues to get minimal ice time ....... Chevy, please move this guy.
Roslovic got a lot of Connor's time up with Laine & Wheel's
Oh my goodness, I thought I was going to throw something at the TV. It was such a stupid penalty to take. And he was very slow to the puck when the Jets were trying to clear it out of their zone, which led to the tying goal. He definitely redeemed himself, but still.... >:(
Poolman was just recalled so maybe not a good sign for Kulikov.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 24, 2018, 01:37:19 PM
Yikes...that's not good. Hopefully he's okay and if it is a broken nose, he can probably keep playing with a cage on his helmet. Kulikov has been solid this season.
Case could be made for him being the top defenseman so far this season. He and Myers have been excellent.
Hertl had Kulikov lined up for a while. He should've let up, IMO.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 24, 2018, 05:59:50 PM
Poolman was just recalled so maybe not a good sign for Kulikov.
I can't see Kulikov playing tomorrow night. My guess is Chiarot takes his place with Poolman as the 7th.
agree that Chiarot, who has played well, will probably be in on Thursday.
Mathias got placed on the IR, retroactive to Jan. 12th. ........ Dano gets to hang around longer due to only Lemieux as his pressure.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 21, 2018, 04:27:55 PM
I don't understand what you're saying. Hutchinson isn't a developmental piece now, if he ever was. He's a pending UFA and there's been no indication the Jets intend to keep him around after the season.
Hutchinson stays up as long as Mason is on IR. That's the only reason he's with the big club. It's not about controlling cost or developing him (he's almost 28 years old).
Agreed on both counts. The Jets are a better team with Mason healthy, too.
My guess is we match.
We are paying Mason way to much money. Its not much diff from Hutch last year.
Jets want to keep players within the system
Still awake over here...terrible offensive OT...shootout on a cold goalie!!
Matt Hendricks??? Over ehlers??
Stoned by a cold goalie - single point is good I guess
Quote from: The Zipp on January 26, 2018, 04:56:27 AM
Matt Hendricks??? Over ehlers??
Stoned by a cold goalie - single point is good I guess
I was weirded out by that too.
Oh well, I was happy to go to OT, that game could have gone either way. I'll take the point!
Points in all four games since the bye week, 3 of those games being on the road. Noice.
Wishing there was a weekend game. What exactly am I going to do with my life? Not watch the Pro Bowl, that's for sure.
I'll take the point. The Jets had zero shots on Miller for the final 6ish minutes of the third and entire OT. We stayed alive with the ducks pushing hard. Every time we play the ducks, I'm reminded of how much I despise that team. Bunch of jerks. Also, how in the world did the high stick on Buff get missed? When he came back to the bench you could see a cut on his lip, so that should have been a double minor penalty. Simply ridiculous!
Taking 3 of 4 points in Cali is great. Jets have to keep pushing hard for the final 32 games!
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 26, 2018, 03:10:30 AM
My guess is we match.
We are paying Mason way to much money. Its not much diff from Hutch last year.
Jets want to keep players within the system
It's not the same at all. Mason is a proven netminder at the NHL level and that's why he was paid a considerable sum as a free agent last summer.
Hutchinson will be 28 this year and there are other younger pieces actually drafted by the organization who need to be developed.
Quote from: The Zipp on January 26, 2018, 04:56:27 AM
Matt Hendricks??? Over ehlers??
Stoned by a cold goalie - single point is good I guess
That made absolutely no sense. And I'm amazed the Jets didn't manage a single SOG after Miller came into to replace Gibson.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on January 26, 2018, 01:37:55 PM
I'll take the point. The Jets had zero shots on Miller for the final 6ish minutes of the third and entire OT. We stayed alive with the ducks pushing hard. Every time we play the ducks, I'm reminded of how much I despise that team. Bunch of jerks. Also, how in the world did the high stick on Buff get missed? When he came back to the bench you could see a cut on his lip, so that should have been a double minor penalty. Simply ridiculous!
Taking 3 of 4 points in Cali is great. Jets have to keep pushing hard for the final 32 games!
Well said. I agree, 3 of 4 is very good. And yes, the Ducks are a greasy team.
I hate Kesler, Getzlaf and Bieksa so, so much.
Quote from: The Zipp on January 26, 2018, 04:56:27 AM
Matt Hendricks??? Over ehlers??
Stoned by a cold goalie - single point is good I guess
https://ca.video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=matt+hendrick+paralyzer#id=1&vid=36b50ae0ded46ece7959601a896aa920&action=click
This is why... amazing to watch this.
I have never seen a goalie actully put on his butt by a deke... Hendricks does it in the first 3 shots in this clip...
Quote from: blue_or_die on January 26, 2018, 02:48:17 PM
I hate Kesler, Getzlaf and Bieksa so, so much.
How about the worst of all in Corey Perry biggest a-hole?
Hendricks and Perrault were crap in the shootout
The point was decent though
We suck 3 on 3
Players have no patience on our side
Quote from: blue_or_die on January 26, 2018, 02:48:17 PM
I hate Kesler, Getzlaf and Bieksa so, so much.
Add Perry and Rackell to the list also...Even Getzlaff at times. Bunch of idiots.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on January 26, 2018, 10:36:08 PM
Add Perry and Rackell to the list also...Even Getzlaff at times. Bunch of idiots.
The teams a bunch of idiots because the coach is an idiot
Quote from: The Zipp on January 26, 2018, 04:56:27 AM
Matt Hendricks??? Over ehlers??
Stoned by a cold goalie - single point is good I guess
Love Ehlers but he couldn't score a goal on a breakaway/shootout to save his life.
Had to watch that Hendrick highlight reel again... Thomas gets soooo mad when he gets sat down...
Grabbing 3 of 4 pts from what were 2 playoff style games in Cali was very impressing for the Jets. Especially when you consider Chef, Lerch and the new Russian experiment were out of the lineup. And it was great to see Roslovic get off the schnide in a big way. A big goal that won't require any embellishment when the story is told yrs down the road.
Both the SJS and Ducks looked better than I have seen them all year and look to be turning on their playoff-mode. They'll need it cause there is no room for coasting into a playoff spot this year.
That said, it'll be interesting to see how much the veteran Jumbo Joe is missed, and if the Ducks can manage to stay healthy playing Carlyle playoff style hockey for the remainder of the year.
Go Jets Go! I can smell playoff hockey coming back to Wpg!
Quote from: Nic16 on January 27, 2018, 03:06:01 PM
Grabbing 3 of 4 pts from what were 2 playoff style games in Cali was very impressing for the Jets. Especially when you consider Chef, Lerch and the new Russian experiment were out of the lineup. And it was great to see Roslovic get off the schnide in a big way. A big goal that won't require any embellishment when the story is told yrs down the road.
Both the SJS and Ducks looked better than I have seen them all year and look to be turning on their playoff-mode. They'll need it cause there is no room for coasting into a playoff spot this year.
That said, it'll be interesting to see how much the veteran Jumbo Joe is missed, and if the Ducks can manage to stay healthy playing Carlyle playoff style hockey for the remainder of the year.
Go Jets Go! I can smell playoff hockey coming back to Wpg!
well said all around! It is a great smell! Sniffff!
Jets should be hot with fefe and Alow back. Kuli back after all star break
Jets are h adding to Finland next season...kinda neat I guess
News from Board of Governors meeting today: confirmed teams for Europe next season, Edmonton-NJ play regular season game in Sweden at start of season; Wpg-Florida reg season game in November in Finland
Quote from: The Zipp on January 27, 2018, 05:01:56 PM
Jets are h adding to Finland next season...kinda neat I guess
News from Board of Governors meeting today: confirmed teams for Europe next season, Edmonton-NJ play regular season game in Sweden at start of season; Wpg-Florida reg season game in November in Finland
wpg at Flor?
Road game for Jets
Just wondering if it takes away a Jets home game.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on January 28, 2018, 12:47:02 AM
wpg at Flor?
Road game for Jets
Just wondering if it takes away a Jets home game.
I think there might be two games one will be a fla home and one a wpg home?? At any rate chipman has said the jets will be compensated for the game missed.
How I understand it is each team gives up a home game. So, that means 40 home games for both teams next season.
Jacob Trouba out 6-8 weeks with an ankle injury.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 29, 2018, 09:50:52 AM
Jacob Trouba out 6-8 weeks with an ankle injury.
Looks like Poolman should be back.... Morrisey will probably be paired with Byfuglien now.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 29, 2018, 09:50:52 AM
Jacob Trouba out 6-8 weeks with an ankle injury.
This sucks! The intensity during games is continuing to go up and the Western playoff race has no room for any kind of losing skid. Trouba is a huge piece of our defense. At least we have a 10-game home stand starting tomorrow. We've got to keep the winning going at home!
More ice time for Buffy to float around...there isn't a player on this team that I flip flop on more than Buffy...sometimes he is awesome and other times I just want him on the bench getting limited reps...I hope once we are in the playoffs he cranks up the intensity.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 29, 2018, 09:50:52 AM
Jacob Trouba out 6-8 weeks with an ankle injury.
Absolutely devastating news to wake up to today. That's pretty much the remainder of the season. :-[
Here's hoping Byfuglien steps it up in his absence. Should be a good opportunity for Poolman, too.
On a brighter note, this is a nice little write-up on Hellebuyck and his stellar 2017-18 campaign: http://winnipegsun.com/sports/hockey/few-if-any-predicted-hellebuycks-ascent-to-becoming-an-all-star/wcm/6f07228a-0831-4580-a37f-7bd0c486b95b (http://winnipegsun.com/sports/hockey/few-if-any-predicted-hellebuycks-ascent-to-becoming-an-all-star/wcm/6f07228a-0831-4580-a37f-7bd0c486b95b)
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"I'm sure there's lots of people who wrote me off after last year," said Hellebuyck. "So it is pretty nice to be here and to successfully show that I actually have more. That being said, my team's playing very good in front of me and they win a lot of games. With team success comes individual success."
Nailed it, Connor. ;D
I didn't see when the injury occurred... was it in game, or off ice?
EDIT
Apparently happened during the OT...
Quote from: theaardvark on January 29, 2018, 01:40:05 PM
I didn't see when the injury occurred... was it in game, or off ice?
Apparently it was during the game and he kept playing. Speculation is that its a high ankle sprain.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 29, 2018, 02:21:30 PM
Apparently it was during the game and he kept playing. Speculation is that its a high ankle sprain.
Seems like the most likely injury based on how long it took to come to light and the recovery time.
As long as there are no more injuries on the D I think we will be okay. I see the D looking like this:
Morrisey-Buff
Myers-Kulikov
Enstrom-Poolman
Press box: Chiarot
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 29, 2018, 03:41:40 PM
As long as there are no more injuries on the D I think we will be okay. I see the D looking like this:
Morrisey-Buff
Myers-Kulikov
Enstrom-Poolman
Press box: Chiarot
looks good to me
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on January 29, 2018, 03:50:13 PM
looks good to me
Except for the Enstrom part. (Full disclosure: I don't like him one bit - too small, a step slow, good defensively but contributes little on offence aside from 16 slap passes a game.)
Trouba's injury could really help with the contract negotiations...bring the dollar amount down a bit.
Sounds like Kulikov is still not ready. Good news is that Scheifele was skating with the team this morning in a non-contact jersey.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 29, 2018, 05:22:13 PM
Trouba's injury could really help with the contract negotiations...bring the dollar amount down a bit.
I dont really think it will.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 29, 2018, 05:22:13 PM
Trouba's injury could really help with the contract negotiations...bring the dollar amount down a bit.
Good luck with that position!
Hutch gets the start vs the best team in the NHL
As per Sarah O:
It will be Michael Hutchinson in net tomorrow for #NHLJets vs TBL.
Big confidence boost if he can win
Quote from: The Zipp on January 29, 2018, 10:09:45 PM
Hutch gets the start vs the best team in the NHL
As per Sarah O:
It will be Michael Hutchinson in net tomorrow for #NHLJets vs TBL.
Big confidence boost if he can win
Quite the test against Tbay!
I wish him the best. This is his showcase to the rest of the league of what he's capable of against the best.
And this is what the Jets will continue to do. And this is what they wanted to see.
It seems to me we give every player the right to come up and prove what they are worth. We send players bk down and dont bring them back up like Petan because they have and want to bring up others. They already know Petan can fill a spot if needed but its better to bring up the others to.
Back to both Hutch and Helle. Ill bet anything both were informed and both new a Vet guy would be brought in. And both Know the skill and how good this team can be. If they want payed they need and have to be better.
Both guys have done something to make them better. That the kinda players i want.
So Hutchinson is arriving in Winnipeg around noon today, from the AHL all-star game last night, and Maurice says he's starting in goal tonight versus Tampa Bay. I don't have a good feeling about this game. Maurice says they want to get Helle some rest. I guess the don't have much confidence in Comrie.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 30, 2018, 04:44:06 PM
So Hutchinson is arriving in Winnipeg around noon today, from the AHL all-star game last night, and Maurice says he's starting in goal tonight versus Tampa Bay. I don't have a good feeling about this game. Maurice says they want to get Helle some rest. I guess the don't have much confidence in Comrie.
I get giving your workhorse goalie some rest, but does it have to be tonight? Why not Thursday or Saturday?
And Comrie isn't ready. We saw that last time he started. Hutchinson is the better option between the two, but I still don't get this decision.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 30, 2018, 05:10:27 PM
I get giving your workhorse goalie some rest, but does it have to be tonight? Why not Thursday or Saturday?
And Comrie isn't ready. We saw that last time he started. Hutchinson is the better option between the two, but I still don't get this decision.
Yep, very odd decision. And the Jets just had their bye week a couple weeks ago so I don't get the urgency of resting Helle tonight.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 30, 2018, 05:14:59 PM
Yep, very odd decision. And the Jets just had their bye week a couple weeks ago so I don't get the urgency of resting Helle tonight.
Coach is adamant it's about Hellybuck travelling lots in the last couple of weeks, multiple time zones, plane trips etc. Does make you wonder if he tweaked something but that is just pure speculation...all the best to Hutchy tonight - go out there and win one for the team and yourself.
Mason must be in rough shape..
Quote from: The Zipp on January 30, 2018, 05:18:56 PM
Coach is adamant it's about Hellybuck travelling lots in the last couple of weeks, multiple time zones, plane trips etc. Does make you wonder if he tweaked something but that is just pure speculation...all the best to Hutchy tonight - go out there and win one for the team and yourself.
Mason must be in rough shape..
PM was talking about the travel prior to Helle leaving, so I think it's legit. Let him sleep a night in his own bed without worrying about starting the next day. We got a nice home stretch here that he's going to be used a ton for.
Mason is going through concussion, yes?
Quote from: Jesse on January 30, 2018, 05:22:02 PM
PM was talking about the travel prior to Helle leaving, so I think it's legit. Let him sleep a night in his own bed without worrying about starting the next day. We got a nice home stretch here that he's going to be used a ton for.
Mason is going through concussion, yes?
Yes, Mason's second concussion this season, and I believe third of his career. I seriously wonder if his season might be over.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 30, 2018, 05:10:27 PM
I get giving your workhorse goalie some rest, but does it have to be tonight? Why not Thursday or Saturday?
And Comrie isn't ready. We saw that last time he started. Hutchinson is the better option between the two, but I still don't get this decision.
My guess would be Mason is done for the season
Quote from: The Zipp on January 30, 2018, 05:18:56 PM
Coach is adamant it's about Hellybuck travelling lots in the last couple of weeks, multiple time zones, plane trips etc. Does make you wonder if he tweaked something but that is just pure speculation...all the best to Hutchy tonight - go out there and win one for the team and yourself.
Mason must be in rough shape..
If Helle is nursing a minor injury, then I definitely agree with the rest tonight. Otherwise it makes no sense.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 30, 2018, 05:24:34 PM
My guess would be Mason is done for the season
You might be right Mud...First concussion of this season was Nov 25...then again about 2 or 3 weeks ago...not looking good
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 30, 2018, 04:44:06 PM
So Hutchinson is arriving in Winnipeg around noon today, from the AHL all-star game last night, and Maurice says he's starting in goal tonight versus Tampa Bay. I don't have a good feeling about this game. Maurice says they want to get Helle some rest. I guess the don't have much confidence in Comrie.
Hutch was given the start long before the Allstar game came up. This was his spot in teh rotation, after Mason went down. He was given the choice fo going to the Allstar game, and decided he could do it, and play tonight.
Its not an issue with confidence in Comrie, just scheduling and HUtch's belief that he can do the job... and especially with a goalie, you don't question it...
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 30, 2018, 05:24:34 PM
My guess would be Mason is done for the season
What does that have to do with starting Hutchinson over Comrie? ???
I don't get the decision to rest Hellebuyck tonight, but I get why Hutchinson gets the call over Comrie.
And the more I think about it, this isn't as crucial a game points-wise as Thursday (conference rival) or Saturday (division rival). So, perhaps that's why Hellebuyck rests tonight against a non-conference opponent.
And FWIW, the Lightning are starting Domingue in net. Maybe Cooper has the same logic in mind wanting to rest his starter who's also been pretty busy.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 30, 2018, 06:19:22 PM
What does that have to do with starting Hutchinson over Comrie? ???
I don't get the decision to rest Hellebuyck tonight, but I get why Hutchinson gets the call over Comrie.
And the more I think about it, this isn't as crucial a game points-wise as Thursday (conference rival) or Saturday (division rival). So, perhaps that's why Hellebuyck rests tonight against a non-conference opponent.
And FWIW, the Lightning are starting Domingue in net. Maybe Cooper has the same logic in mind wanting to rest his starter who's also been pretty busy.
I sometimes wonder if opposing head coaches talk before a game and both agree to start their backup goaltenders. I see that fairly often.
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 30, 2018, 06:22:00 PM
I sometimes wonder if opposing head coaches talk before a game and both agree to start their backup goaltenders. I see that fairly often.
LOL.... They dont do that.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 30, 2018, 06:19:22 PM
And FWIW, the Lightning are starting Domingue in net. Maybe Cooper has the same logic in mind wanting to rest his starter who's also been pretty busy.
Maybe he'll rest Stamkos, Point, and Kucherov too. Wouldn't that be nice? ;)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 30, 2018, 06:19:22 PM
What does that have to do with starting Hutchinson over Comrie? ???
I don't get the decision to rest Hellebuyck tonight, but I get why Hutchinson gets the call over Comrie.
And the more I think about it, this isn't as crucial a game points-wise as Thursday (conference rival) or Saturday (division rival). So, perhaps that's why Hellebuyck rests tonight against a non-conference opponent.
And FWIW, the Lightning are starting Domingue in net. Maybe Cooper has the same logic in mind wanting to rest his starter who's also been pretty busy.
I think like i said.... Mason is done for the year and Helle will have to carry much of the load.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 30, 2018, 06:19:22 PM
What does that have to do with starting Hutchinson over Comrie? ???
I don't get the decision to rest Hellebuyck tonight, but I get why Hutchinson gets the call over Comrie.
And the more I think about it, this isn't as crucial a game points-wise as Thursday (conference rival) or Saturday (division rival). So, perhaps that's why Hellebuyck rests tonight against a non-conference opponent.
And FWIW, the Lightning are starting Domingue in net. Maybe Cooper has the same logic in mind wanting to rest his starter who's also been pretty busy.
i think he was responding to my comment earlier that Mason must be in rough shape...none of this Hitch stuff happens if he isn't hurt
Ugh. Hate those late period goals...can't really blame Hutch on that goal.
Well that went well! Nice game for Hutchinson!
Great win for the Jets!! Hutch was solid in net !!
Rest up the Knights are rolling into town...take them out too!
Great game! Hutchinson got better as the game progressed, so getting that win is a huge monkey off his back.
Two big points against the league's best! ;D
Both Helle and Hutch have something to prove and u can see it from how they play.
This is what we want
Great game by the Jets! They controlled much of the game and Tampa couldn't get much going. This team continues to amaze me.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on January 31, 2018, 12:51:09 PM
Great game by the Jets! They controlled much of the game and Tampa couldn't get much going. This team continues to amaze me.
Me too..... its kinda crazy
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 31, 2018, 01:01:06 PM
Me too..... its kinda crazy
Yep, it's insane. Still finding it hard not looking at it as a few bursts of brilliance or just luck. Team is rolling on all cylinders.
Into February we go...
Quote from: blue_or_die on January 31, 2018, 01:08:38 PM
Yep, it's insane. Still finding it hard not looking at it as a few bursts of brilliance or just luck. Team is rolling on all cylinders.
Into February we go...
I think as fans we got used to these flashes and overall inconsistency of the team. Now, the Jets are rolling and being consistent - it's awesome to see them finally take that step. And without some key players, no less.
35-40 games is usually a good measuring size to see what a team has. At the 50~ game mark, I'd say it's fair to say this team is the real deal.
It's a very exciting time to be a Winnipeg sports fan. ;D
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on January 31, 2018, 12:51:09 PM
Great game by the Jets! They controlled much of the game and Tampa couldn't get much going. This team continues to amaze me.
Me three
Us Pegggers certainly aren?t use to this level of success like since the Bombers of the 80s so for me it?s like ever!
Just so deep and so much talent especially up front WOW we are a deep
Great goaltending as well
Quote from: blue_or_die on January 31, 2018, 01:08:38 PM
Yep, it's insane. Still finding it hard not looking at it as a few bursts of brilliance or just luck. Team is rolling on all cylinders.
Into February we go...
its not luck it?s all the rest of the above though
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on January 31, 2018, 09:59:40 PM
its not luck it?s all the rest of the above though
lol, I know that, that's what I was saying. It's for real.
GO JETS GO!!
Another tough test for the Jets - haven't been to a game in a couple of years so excited to be there in person tonight.
Steve Mason skating today:
Steve Mason (concussion) skated for the first time today since Jan. 12.
"It'll be a real long curve on this one," said Maurice. "He'll run a real light skating day for a number of days before we start pushing any harder."
Pretty stoked. I would love to beat the Knights!!
Quote from: The Zipp on February 01, 2018, 06:47:36 PM
GO JETS GO!!
Another tough test for the Jets - haven't been to a game in a couple of years so excited to be there in person tonight.
Steve Mason skating today:
Steve Mason (concussion) skated for the first time today since Jan. 12.
"It'll be a real long curve on this one," said Maurice. "He'll run a real light skating day for a number of days before we start pushing any harder."
Excellent news! Thanks for sharing.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 01, 2018, 07:26:47 PM
Excellent news! Thanks for sharing.
Bigger news is Schiefele back on the ice again today.... just posted a video of himself on Instagram at morning skate.
Quote from: Chris1982 on February 01, 2018, 08:23:41 PM
Bigger news is Schiefele back on the ice again today.... just posted a video of himself on Instagram at morning skate.
He skated yesterday too.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 01, 2018, 09:14:00 PM
He skated yesterday too.
That is why I said, on the ice "AGAIN".
Quote from: Chris1982 on February 01, 2018, 09:27:26 PM
That is why I said, on the ice "AGAIN".
How is that "bigger" news then? I'd think the first day back skating is pretty big news. The second day not so much.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 01, 2018, 09:31:24 PM
How is that "bigger" news then? I'd think the first day back skating is pretty big news. The second day not so much.
A player always has to attempt a comeback. Does not always mean it is going to be successful. When a player makes it through a skate, and is able to return for a 2nd one... shows he made it through his comeback skate without re-aggravating anything.
Regardless of your opinion, I think that is bigger news.
Quote from: Chris1982 on February 01, 2018, 09:36:35 PM
A player always has to attempt a comeback. Does not always mean it is going to be successful. When a player makes it through a skate, and is able to return for a 2nd one... shows he made it through his comeback skate without re-aggravating anything.
Regardless of your opinion, I think that is bigger news.
It's rumored to be a broken collarbone so there's nothing to re-aggravate, unless he somehow crashes into the boards again while skating around. But cool, we can agree to disagree.
Mason returning is pretty big news to me, considering he's suffered 2 concussions already this season, only a couple month apart.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 01, 2018, 09:39:28 PM
It's rumored to be a broken collarbone so there's nothing to re-aggravate, unless he somehow crashes into the boards again while skating around. But cool, we can agree to disagree.
Mason returning is pretty big news to me, considering he's suffered 2 concussions already this season, only a couple month apart.
That's what everyone was saying about Aaron Rodgers too
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 01, 2018, 09:39:28 PM
It's rumored to be a broken collarbone so there's nothing to re-aggravate, unless he somehow crashes into the boards again while skating around. But cool, we can agree to disagree.
Mason returning is pretty big news to me, considering he's suffered 2 concussions already this season, only a couple month apart.
Alright.
I guess since Mason is 3-6 with a 3.5 GAA average, I do not really see it as big news.
The second and third skate is always the most important.
Im not sure about Mason.... Hes not very good. And we pay him way to much money for nothing. It sorta worked good because it got Helle and Hutch feathers up.
This whole system The Jets have put in is looking pretty good.
This loss is a tough one. The missed chances in overtime alone made me crazy. Puck just sitting behind Fleury and no one can tap it in! And the goal that I still can?t believe was deemed a goal. The idea floating around that the puck was behind Hellebuyck and the contact in front meant it didn?t impede him is a joke! So a slash to the head doesn?t impede a goalie? Unreal. But hey, a point?s a point.
Nice to be at a game again, the arena sure is much quieter than a a few years ago...and the team is way better - go figure??
I thought the Jets played just so - so...didn't generate many great scoring chances in the third, and giving up a shorty just stinks. First time seeing Laine in person and I thought he floated a bit tonight. The goal should have been disallowed but I guess this is the way they will interpret now??
Thought we had the win in OT - looked like Little thought the puck was in too.
Like was said - we got a point.
Some fiery comments from the Jets:
#NHLJets coach Paul Maurice: "I don't know how there'd be an event that would be more egregious with goaltender interference, just beyond the spirit of the rule. The idea that a guy could clean a goalie out would be goalie interference, but a two-hand to the head wouldn't." #wfp
More #NHLJets coach Paul Maurice: "What are we going to do with our goalies now. The puck's loose in the crease, so swing away? We can?t have people swinging at our goalie?s heads. You can?t allow that to creep into the game." #wfp
Connor Hellebuyck on the play: ""I think it?s a terrible call. You would think the video replay is there for that reason. That?s just dirty. I can take a stick to the face. But just because I don?t throw my head back and make it obvious, I feel like I got kind of screwed." #wfp
More from Connor Hellebuyck, who was livid: "This is my fourth goal with my helmet, having an issue with it, goal with my helmet off, goal with my buckle off, goal where a guy trampled me. Maybe I should start diving a little bit, that?s just ridiculous."
Hellebuyck: What he (ref) said is the puck wasn't covered, it was laying in the crease, so the guy was allowed to take a two-hand smack to my face. I don't understand it. I think it's a terrible call.
Blake Wheeler didn't hold back tonight when talking about the 2-1 goal.
"Well, now it?s bad. It was bad before but come on, (he) ****ing breaks a stick over his head. That?s not a goal."
I hope they are still angry on Saturday and absolutely smash the Avs.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on February 02, 2018, 03:49:02 AM
Some fiery comments from the Jets:
#NHLJets coach Paul Maurice: "I don't know how there'd be an event that would be more egregious with goaltender interference, just beyond the spirit of the rule. The idea that a guy could clean a goalie out would be goalie interference, but a two-hand to the head wouldn't." #wfp
More #NHLJets coach Paul Maurice: "What are we going to do with our goalies now. The puck's loose in the crease, so swing away? We can?t have people swinging at our goalie?s heads. You can?t allow that to creep into the game." #wfp
Connor Hellebuyck on the play: ""I think it?s a terrible call. You would think the video replay is there for that reason. That?s just dirty. I can take a stick to the face. But just because I don?t throw my head back and make it obvious, I feel like I got kind of screwed." #wfp
More from Connor Hellebuyck, who was livid: "This is my fourth goal with my helmet, having an issue with it, goal with my helmet off, goal with my buckle off, goal where a guy trampled me. Maybe I should start diving a little bit, that?s just ridiculous."
Hellebuyck: What he (ref) said is the puck wasn't covered, it was laying in the crease, so the guy was allowed to take a two-hand smack to my face. I don't understand it. I think it's a terrible call.
Blake Wheeler didn't hold back tonight when talking about the 2-1 goal.
"Well, now it?s bad. It was bad before but come on, (he) ****ing breaks a stick over his head. That?s not a goal."
I hope they are still angry on Saturday and absolutely smash the Avs.
They should be mad. That was complete crap and the fact it stood was mystifying. How is lumberjack slashing a goalie across the face not a penalty? ???
This goalie interference controversy this season is a really ugly look for the league. And it's just getting worse.
If you watch the replay, Buff knocks the stick up. Not sure if it breaks from Buff hitting the stick, or the stick hitting Hellebuyck, but Buff definitely influences the path of the stick, in an upward direction.
Still, you are responsible for your stick, and that should have been a call, before teh puck went in. 2 refs focused on the puck when they should have been focused on the play.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 02, 2018, 02:38:27 AM
The second and third skate is always the most important.
Im not sure about Mason.... Hes not very good. And we pay him way to much money for nothing. It sorta worked good because it got Helle and Hutch feathers up.
This whole system The Jets have put in is looking pretty good.
Yup, the exact 2 points that I was making. I agree 100%.
Quote from: Chris1982 on February 02, 2018, 09:08:17 AM
Yup, the exact 2 points that I was making. I agree 100%.
For a concussion I might agree. A broken collarbone...no.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 02, 2018, 11:12:28 AM
For a concussion I might agree. A broken collarbone...no.
As previously noted - Aaron Rodgers suffered the same "collarbone" injury - and re-aggravated it in his first game back.... so your theory, is false.
Quote from: Chris1982 on February 02, 2018, 11:34:21 AM
As previously noted - Aaron Rodgers suffered the same "collarbone" injury - and re-aggravated it in his first game back.... so your theory, is false.
Playing a football game is much different than skating around with no contact lol
Quote from: theaardvark on February 02, 2018, 07:03:25 AM
If you watch the replay, Buff knocks the stick up. Not sure if it breaks from Buff hitting the stick, or the stick hitting Hellebuyck, but Buff definitely influences the path of the stick, in an upward direction.
Still, you are responsible for your stick, and that should have been a call, before teh puck went in. 2 refs focused on the puck when they should have been focused on the play.
Not sure how you?re seeing Buff influencing Neal?s stick... Watch Neal?s arms. He swings at Hellebuyck?s head as Buff?s stick moves in. After the slash, Buff?s stick yanks Neal?s upward. Play should have been whistled immediately after the slash with the Jets getting a power play and no goal.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 02, 2018, 11:47:04 AM
Playing a football game is much different than skating around with no contact lol
You had previously stated "broken collarbone so there's nothing to re-aggravate" - now you are saying its because there is no contact. Your previous statement insinuates that a broken collarbone can not be re-aggravated. Now you are implying that it CAN, but just would not happen because he is skating around with no contact. You totally contradicted yourself. :D :D
Quote from: Chris1982 on February 02, 2018, 11:55:48 AM
You had previously stated "broken collarbone so there's nothing to re-aggravate" - now you are saying its because there is no contact. Your previous statement insinuates that a broken collarbone can not be re-aggravated. Now you are implying that it CAN, but just would not happen because he is skating around with no contact. You totally contradicted yourself. :D :D
lol 100% a broken collarbone can be aggravated - once you break a collarbone it can be more prone to be broken again. Just not in that context Scheifele was in which is why it is not big news.
Here is exactly what I said:
It's rumored to be a broken collarbone so there's nothing to re-aggravate,
unless he somehow crashes into the boards again while skating around.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 02, 2018, 12:07:28 PM
lol 100% a broken collarbone can be aggravated - once you break a collarbone it can be more prone to be broken again. Just not in that context Scheifele was in which is why it is not big news.
Here is exactly what I said:
It's rumored to be a broken collarbone so there's nothing to re-aggravate, unless he somehow crashes into the boards again while skating around.
He could easily re-aggravate it with a body check, or any other type of wrong movement.
Stop playing internet doctor, it is not working well for you :D :D ;) ;)
Quote from: Chris1982 on February 02, 2018, 12:10:44 PM
He could easily re-aggravate it with a body check, or any other type of wrong movement.
Stop playing internet doctor, it is not working well for you :D :D ;) ;)
He was wearing a non-contact jersey in practice. Do you know what that means? It means players can't body check him lol ::)
Anyways, this is getting stupid. I stick by my initial comments:
Scheifele returning to a non-contact practice is big news. His second day back...not so much.
Mason returning for light skates is bigger news in my opinion, considering the context of him suffering 2 concussions so close together this season.
You are playing internet doctor just as much as I am. We can agree to disagree. Enough time wasted on a stupid discussion....
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 02, 2018, 12:18:53 PM
He was wearing a non-contact jersey in practice. Do you know what that means? It means players can't body check him lol ::)
Anyways, this is getting stupid. I stick by my initial comments:
Scheifele returning to a non-contact practice is big news. His second day back...not so much.
Mason returning for light skates is bigger news in my opinion, considering the context of him suffering 2 concussions so close together this season.
You are playing internet doctor just as much as I am. We can agree to disagree. Enough time wasted on a stupid discussion....
Ok, agree to disagree. Just on a side note, I ended this discussion with you last night. I simply agreed with the comments of another poster this morning, which you were not involved in - and you decided to quote me and re-start this discussion with the exact same opinion and point that you made last night - even though our discussion about this was already over.
Kulikov is reported to be playing tonight, while Lowry will probably be out.
And Scheifele is back skating in a regular blue jersey. ;D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 03, 2018, 04:36:32 PM
And Scheifele is back skating in a regular blue jersey. ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Lowry will not play tonight ......... Copp (only 1 Goal in the past 31 games) moves over to center
As per Sara Orlesky:
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Paul Maurice has not ruled out Mark Scheifele returning to the lineup for the Feb 9th game vs STL. That would be the six week mark.
Let?s hammer these pricks!
So the Jets are going to play 2 regular season games in Finland next season. I guessing that one of them would have been a home game. If so, are the Jets going to charge the season ticket holders for one less game?
Jim
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 02, 2018, 12:18:53 PM
He was wearing a non-contact jersey in practice. Do you know what that means? It means players can't body check him lol ::)
Anyways, this is getting stupid. I stick by my initial comments:
Scheifele returning to a non-contact practice is big news. His second day back...not so much.
Mason returning for light skates is bigger news in my opinion, considering the context of him suffering 2 concussions so close together this season.
You are playing internet doctor just as much as I am. We can agree to disagree. Enough time wasted on a stupid discussion....
Jus want to ask if you ever played hockey? You dont think his color bone is affected buy him skating and useing a stick and moving his arms? Think hes figure skating?
The Day after is always what you hear a player or coach say all the time about an injurned player No matter what sport.
HNIC panel just speculated the Jets might be interested in trading for Rick Nash.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 04, 2018, 12:57:50 AM
HNIC panel just speculated the Jets might be interested in trading for Rick Nash.
I hope that's not true.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 04, 2018, 01:02:54 AM
I hope that's not true.
Friedman and Kypreos were just speculating, but they mentioned Nash.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 04, 2018, 01:05:50 AM
Friedman and Kypreos were just speculating, but they mentioned Nash.
I suppose as a cheap rental.
Wheeler gets a big one for the Jets. They needed that.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 04, 2018, 01:13:49 AM
I suppose as a cheap rental.
Wheeler gets a big one for the Jets. They needed that.
Yes as a rental. He?s a free agent after this season.
Or how about trading for Evander Kane as a rental? :D
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 04, 2018, 01:16:53 AM
Yes as a rental. He?s a free agent after this season.
Or how about trading for Evander Kane as a rental? :D
For the right price, Nash could work. Kane? Ha! Never. :D
Looks like the Jets' second goal has been changed. Roslovic gets his second career goal.
Helle's next contract is going to be interesting...guy is going to get PAID!
I said it before and I?ll say it again no trades
Hoping Roslovic scores in his next game, going "back" to back... ;) . I bet he's glad that wasn't his first NFL goal...
Right now, our C depth is pretty bad, with Scheif, Hendricks and Lowry on the shelf. Wheeler is doing great at C, and the rst of these guys will eventually be back.
Trading now doesn't make a lot of sense. They were talking picking up a top 6 F, probably a C. Why? As it is, when everyone is healthy, you have Perreault and Connor on the 4th line, those are top 6 F.
The juju in the room is working. Our top player is out and we're on top of the division, 4 points out of the league lead. And we have the best home record in the league, tied with LV for fewest home losses at 3, and we are in the middle of a historically long homestand!
Last thing this team needs is the distraction of a rental player. I think Chevy's lack of trading is working. Trading any of our "spare parts" right now sends the wrong message to our depth guys. They want to be here, they know what this team is building to be.
Would love to see Tavares here, or even Backlund.... but chances of that are unlikely.
Cant see us making any trades.... and Nash has us on his no trade list
Depending on the injury situation at the deadline, I could see the Jets making a move for a forward.
Truly enjoy watching the Jets & their success this year. Watching our "gifted" forwards shine & HellB rising to the occasion game after game has been special.
However, I am concerned in a few areas .......
Copp & Tanev, both have been plus players but for the ice time ..... Copp has only 1 goal & Tanev just 2 in the past 35 games they each have played....... YIKES !!!
These 2 hustlers need to be on the 4th line ...... Connor & Armia, as plus players, need to play 3rd line minutes for the overall team betterment.
In the NHL games their are GiveAways & TakeAways recorded. Overall the aim would be to end with a + showing each game.
The Jets overall, so far this season, are at a miserable ..... Minus 128 ........ YIKES !!!
As for a Trade. Enstrom makes me nervous & I would love us to land a Top 4, LH shot Dman. Also a Rental top 9 forward would be nice.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 04, 2018, 06:18:49 PM
Depending on the injury situation at the deadline, I could see the Jets making a move for a forward.
Maybe..... I dont really see why tho. One forward wed prolly lose some good young talent for wont push us over the edge.
I just dont see us doing that. I believe we have proven we can play with and beat anyone in this league with the guys we have.
IMO.... The Jets will go with what we have this year and see where they take us and how far. Then during the offseason look at what we have and what we need.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 04, 2018, 06:12:45 PM
Cant see us making any trades.... and Nash has us on his no trade list
You think anyone would leave us on the no trade list now? I'm thinking a lot of players would remove us now...
Quote from: theaardvark on February 04, 2018, 10:56:11 PM
You think anyone would leave us on the no trade list now? I'm thinking a lot of players would remove us now...
More so the reason i wouldnt want them.
Id want the guys that earned it not for a guy that wants a ride.
TODAY: Jets player shortage at practise has Scheif centering Poolman & Dano
No Tanev, Hendrickson or Lowry on ice ...... as reported by 1290 Radio.
Quote from: Jockitch on February 05, 2018, 05:46:20 PM
Jets player shortage at practise has Scheif centering Poolman & Dano
No Tanev, Hendrickson or Lowry on ice ...... as reported by 1290 Radio.
Today?
Per Sara Orlesky, both Tanev and Hendricks are out tomorrow against Arizona.
Lowry a game day decision ?? Let Poolman play D., PM. & move Buff to the wing
Guess Lemieux may be a call up.
Lemeiux and Petan called up.
PM said he might dress 7 D... wonder if it would be Poolman or Buff getting some time at F... or just double shift guys...
Quote from: theaardvark on February 06, 2018, 12:50:57 AM
Lemeiux and Petan called up.
PM said he might dress 7 D... wonder if it would be Poolman or Buff getting some time at F... or just double shift guys...
Poolman was taking some shifts as forward at practice this morning.
Wow. Preds came back to win after being down...that is a scary team to avoid in the first round.
Quote from: The Zipp on February 06, 2018, 02:06:22 AM
Wow. Preds came back to win after being down...that is a scary team to avoid in the first round.
Yeah. They are going to be tough to beat down the stretch.
Patrik Laine pens for The Players' Tribune: https://www.theplayerstribune.com/patrik-laine-winnipeg-jets-nhl/ (https://www.theplayerstribune.com/patrik-laine-winnipeg-jets-nhl/)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 06, 2018, 02:04:18 PM
Patrik Laine pens for The Players' Tribune: https://www.theplayerstribune.com/patrik-laine-winnipeg-jets-nhl/ (https://www.theplayerstribune.com/patrik-laine-winnipeg-jets-nhl/)
That was great. We used to hear this from the Finnish reporters who would come see Laine after he was drafted, that he was actually a really funny kid, but it didn't translate to English too well. That was pretty good though.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 06, 2018, 02:04:18 PM
Patrik Laine pens for The Players' Tribune: https://www.theplayerstribune.com/patrik-laine-winnipeg-jets-nhl/ (https://www.theplayerstribune.com/patrik-laine-winnipeg-jets-nhl/)
Good read.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 06, 2018, 02:04:18 PM
Patrik Laine pens for The Players' Tribune: https://www.theplayerstribune.com/patrik-laine-winnipeg-jets-nhl/ (https://www.theplayerstribune.com/patrik-laine-winnipeg-jets-nhl/)
That was PURE GOLD
Quote from: blue_or_die on February 06, 2018, 04:39:36 PM
That was PURE GOLD
Quote
I would play the NHL video games a lot. I knew a few teams pretty well. But Winnipeg was ? really bad. Maybe like an 80 overall. I never wanted to be the Jets, nobody did
Bahaahaha Nobody did!!! So good.
Turns out he didn't actually write it...semantics I guess cause it sounds like it could be...interview then transcribed I suppose.
From twitter:
Re: Players Tribune story: Patrik Laine says someone came to interview him and that was it. He didn't write it, nor has he read the finished product. #NHLJets
Laine scores 3 tonight.
Beauty of a goal 30 seconds in!!!
Ugly roller behind Helly to tie it up...ugh!
Ill say it again..... I doubt Chevy makes any big trade.
These kids are coming up pretty good. I really dont see them screwing with it.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 07, 2018, 01:56:02 AM
Ill say it again..... I doubt Chevy makes any big trade.
These kids are coming up pretty good. I really dont see them screwing with it.
i agree
Clean win would bury the Blues 8 point lead on them if happens.
A finger painting at Bell MTS Place tonight... At best. Man, was that mostly ugly. Just glad the home team held on to get the win.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 07, 2018, 04:19:11 AM
A finger painting at Bell MTS Place tonight... At best. Man, was that mostly ugly. Just glad the home team held on to get the win.
?Finger painting? sounds like a riot!
Yeah that was an awful game by both teams. The Jets really played down to Arizona's slop.
Oh well, those happen. Move on and decimate the Blues.
Heading to Phoenix soon, Glendale Arena is a short walk from where I'm staying. Last time I was there, I scored nice tickets for almost nothing. There will be 2 games played while I'm there, just hoping they will play better should I decide to go...
A Win is a Win ......... cuz baby the jets almost looked like they were playing to lose.
Can't say that Petan hurt his chances of staying in the lineup, cause most players performing looked like they were from the Moose.
If Scheif gets back in on Friday ..... does Petan, Lemieux, Dano or ??? take a seat in the Press Box.
I'm a Roslovic fan but I feel Connor is the better player overall & should have stayed with Wheels & Laine. However, if Scheif centers Wheels & Laine on Friday,
then I suggest that Roslovic center Connor & Armia while Little stays with Ehlers & Perrault & let Copp move to the 4th line with whomever.
@JamieThomasTV
New lines at #NHLJets practice this morning.
Laine-Scheifele-Wheeler
Perreault -Little-Ehlers
Armia-Copp-Connor
Roslovic -Petan-Dano
Lemieux
Quote from: The Zipp on February 07, 2018, 05:35:37 PM
@JamieThomasTV
New lines at #NHLJets practice this morning.
Laine-Scheifele-Wheeler
Perreault -Little-Ehlers
Armia-Copp-Connor
Roslovic -Petan-Dano
Lemieux
That's pretty solid... top line must be one of the best in Hockey... second line could be a top line on some teams...
Quote from: The Zipp on February 07, 2018, 05:35:37 PM
@JamieThomasTV
New lines at #NHLJets practice this morning.
Laine-Scheifele-Wheeler
Perreault -Little-Ehlers
Armia-Copp-Connor
Roslovic -Petan-Dano
Lemieux
That's one hell of a nice looking 4th line. Wow.
Rooting for the leafs tonight...gross. Gotta keep the preds behind us!
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 07, 2018, 10:32:08 PM
That's one hell of a nice looking 4th line. Wow.
Ya
And this is what the The Jets will continue to do and bring up these guys.
As much as injurys suck we get to place guys into positions and then take them out. And we can do this for years yet.
They play like they want to stay.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on February 08, 2018, 01:06:33 AM
Rooting for the leafs tonight...gross. Gotta keep the preds behind us!
Agreed, that felt awful and they couldn't even hold on to keep the Preds from getting the loser point.
Yikes...Helly better stay healthy.
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Another #NHLJets backup goalie, Michael Hutchinson, out with a concussion. Took a high shot in Tuesday's pre-game skate Eric Comrie on his way up from the Moose.
Hutchinson out with a concussion, Comrie called up.
Good grief.
You'd think that "don't rifle one at your own goalie's head" would be a pretty obvious rule.
i guess maybe i just haven't been paying attention over the years but an actual concussion from a puck never seemed to happen...maybe we are just more aware of the symptoms now which is good for the players. Maybe we need better masks and helmets for goalies.
Quote from: The Zipp on February 08, 2018, 05:52:02 PM
Yikes...Helly better stay healthy.
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Another #NHLJets backup goalie, Michael Hutchinson, out with a concussion. Took a high shot in Tuesday's pre-game skate Eric Comrie on his way up from the Moose.
Omg - just get a shooter tooter for practice for now on. :P
Preds take it to OT again... I guess it could have been worse and they won both games.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on February 09, 2018, 02:13:45 AM
Preds take it to OT again... I guess it could have been worse and they won both games.
Only a game in hand on the Jets but tied in points. Of note, the Jets have the ROW advantage right now (30 to 28).
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 09, 2018, 03:50:06 AM
Only a game in hand on the Jets but tied in points. Of note, the Jets have the ROW advantage right now (30 to 28).
Forgot to consider that, but the way this season has been going, it very well may come down to that in the central come April.
I am just really hoping that however the chips land for the playoffs that we are not playing the preds in the first round. Or the ducks (just because I despise them). Other than those two teams, I think we would put up a pretty good fight and hopefully take the series. Really though, playoffs are a whole other level so we'll see. Just win a game!
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on February 09, 2018, 01:19:08 PM
I am just really hoping that however the chips land for the playoffs that we are not playing the preds in the first round. Or the ducks (just because I despise them). Other than those two teams, I think we would put up a pretty good fight and hopefully take the series. Really though, playoffs are a whole other level so we'll see. Just win a game!
I have been thinking about this a lot lately, and while I agree that the Preds are scary, I wouldn't want to play them
on any given night, but in a series, that's a whole new animal. In a best of 4, I like our chances against any single team in the NHL.
Quote from: blue_or_die on February 09, 2018, 02:29:22 PM
I have been thinking about this a lot lately, and while I agree that the Preds are scary, I wouldn't want to play them on any given night, but in a series, that's a whole new animal. In a best of 4, I like our chances against any single team in the NHL.
for me the recent playoff experience of the Preds is another layer of "scariness" Rinne getting hot in the playoffs and the confidence that will grow in that team based on last year is going to make them really tough.
I want more than a 1st round exit out of this team now...being teased with "drinking the good water" basically all season has raised my hopes and expectations.
Quote from: The Zipp on February 09, 2018, 02:51:56 PM
for me the recent playoff experience of the Preds is another layer of "scariness" Rinne getting hot in the playoffs and the confidence that will grow in that team based on last year is going to make them really tough.
I want more than a 1st round exit out of this team now...being teased with "drinking the good water" basically all season has raised my hopes and expectations.
Agreed. I have a feeling this is the year for the preds to win. Especially if they can boost their roster with Nash as the rumours are indicating he may land up there. Their home building is loud and intimidating and the Jets don't seem to win there.
All I wanted at the start of the season was to make the playoffs. Now I want first place in the central and would LOVE to get first overall. How awesome would that be? But I'd be happy with finishing above the wildcard spot and winning the first round. (especially after the leafs get knocked out ;D )
Shucks ...Laine limping off....not good
Looks like a puck to the high ankle
Quote from: The Zipp on February 10, 2018, 12:41:30 AM
Shucks ...Laine limping off....not good
Looks like a puck to the high ankle
Back out on the ice...whew
Jets dont seem to be into this game.
I leave the room for a few minutes when it's 1-0 and poof I come back and 3-0.
Come on Jets wake up
Quote from: The Zipp on February 10, 2018, 01:26:32 AM
I leave the room for a few minutes when it's 1-0 and poof I come back and 3-0.
Come on Jets wake up
Lesson learned: don?t leave the room during Jets games!
The Jets pulled within one on that Laine PPG but then crapped the bed and let the Blues pull ahead by two again.
Not a good game by the home team tonight.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 10, 2018, 02:15:24 AM
Lesson learned: don?t leave the room during Jets games!
I have been glued to my chair since. Jets just losing some battles and St. Louis is playing very well especially considering they played last night...
Got it to 3-2 but lost that in about a minute. No loses are good but this is a divisional rival.
Disappointing game. I thought the Jets would have way more zip after getting Scheifele back and two days off. Nuts. We could have put some good separation from the Blues. Instead they?re only two points back.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on February 10, 2018, 02:30:30 AM
Disappointing game. I thought the Jets would have way more zip after getting Scheifele back and two days off. Nuts. We could have put some good separation from the Blues. Instead they?re only two points back.
Wheeler was fighting the puck most of the game. Myers had a horrid outing.
Maybe Jets should trade Scheifele. Seem to play better without him ;)
Imagine a playoff series between the Jets and Blues. It would be exhausting to watch, never mind play in.
We?d need our big hitters in for that.
Don?t look now, but Dallas has won five in a row and is only three points behind the Jets (although we have a game in hand).
Quote from: Stretch on February 10, 2018, 01:06:35 PM
Don?t look now, but Dallas has won five in a row and is only three points behind the Jets (although we have a game in hand).
Just crazy how tight this is and there is still lots of games to be played. Go on a 5 game slide and we could be relagated to wild card spot - go on a worse stretch and we could be on the outside looking in. Of course other teams would have to go on a winning streak but nothing is guaranteed...it was just one game but need to regroup and focus on beating the Rangers
Preds get the win in a shoot out...Jets still have the advantage of ROW should it come down to a tie. Got to beat the rangers tomorrow.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on February 11, 2018, 02:07:15 AM
Preds get the win in a shoot out...Jets still have the advantage of ROW should it come down to a tie. Got to beat the rangers tomorrow.
Long way to go, my friend...
Giving up late goals >:(
Need to take advantage of the St. Louis loss
Great start. But since the Rangers scored late in the first, the Jets aren't playing well.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 11, 2018, 08:32:04 PM
Great start. But since the Rangers scored late in the first, the Jets aren't playing well.
Zamboni dude won't have to spend much time in the rangers zone - all the play has been in the jets end ...penalties aren't helping..
Brutal. Late goal in the third. Put the pressure on guys
Two losses in a row...not good folks...
From what I saw it was a high stick on the late no goal...only showed it once in replay
0-2 since Scheifele's return...trade him!! ;)
Jets lucky Stars and Blues lose to. To bad because we could of put in a nice cushion on these teams.
The PP ain?t clicking anymore Helle is leaking pucks out his pooper still and the Jets can?t score without something illegal happening in the process. What could go wrong?
They played for about 30 mins and couldn?t be Henry
Please do at call him ?the King? lamest nick name in the league. The King of what? King of getting punted from The playoffs?
Quote from: The Zipp on February 11, 2018, 09:41:41 PM
Two losses in a row...not good folks...
From what I saw it was a high stick on the late no goal...only showed it once in replay
I don?t get why they reviewed that one but didn?t check the Rangers second goal, it looked just as high of a tip.
EDIT: Just saw replay of Rangers goal. Went off his arm.
The trade rumours are heating up. When interviewed, Nash said he listed 12 teams that had the best chance of being a contender and that included teams from Canada. So, with how the Jets are doing, you wonder if he actually included Winnipeg? I read somewhere else that apparently Winnipeg had expressed some interest in him. I?d be perfectly fine if we traded for Grabner though. I have a hunch that Chevy is going to pull a trade this time around. Wait and see I guess.
Brutal late period goal again.
Sloppy play
Quote from: The Zipp on February 14, 2018, 12:41:28 AM
Brutal late period goal again.
Sloppy play
Just like Sunday vs. NYR.
Not a good habit to start.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 14, 2018, 12:47:09 AM
Just like Sunday vs. NYR.
Not a good habit to start.
Now a juicy rebound and boom 2-1 caps
Quote from: The Zipp on February 14, 2018, 01:18:20 AM
Now a juicy rebound and boom 2-1 caps
What the hell has happened to this team? ???
Crisis mode yet?
This is where the coach needs to do something!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 14, 2018, 01:18:44 AM
What the hell has happened to this team? ???
With so many young players I think this is the reason they are slumping. They need a kick in the a$$.
Little scores
Need a Vet to step up and Brian did it, to start.
Unbelievable!!! Tie it up with 14 ticks left !!
And somehow... The Jets tie the game while on the PK. Unreal.
Wow what a win!!
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 14, 2018, 02:43:12 AM
Wow what a win!!
Unreal! Boy, oh, boy... The Jets needed that win.
Of course the preds and blues would go to OT!!
Preds get 2, blues get 1
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 11, 2018, 09:49:47 PM
0-2 since Scheifele's return...trade him!! ;)
Maybe Scheifele read this before the game yesterday and lit a fire under him :D :D :D :D
Scheif always has a fire under him
Great team victory & these 2 points may be the key when looking back at how the Standings end.
Quote from: Jockitch on February 14, 2018, 06:11:48 PM
Scheif always has a fire under him
Great team victory & these 2 points may be the key when looking back at how the Standings end.
Fefe
He did almost blew it with a blind offensive zone pass only to get predictably turned over only to have Big Buff chop down the empty netter. Good Buff North North should rebate Buff on the fine he got for the major hack job.
A Goal and a Assist late in the game and OT to win it. Redemption of monumental levels!
For anyone interested, here's the live stream for the 2018 Jets Skills Competition: https://youtu.be/6SolXSZ9iQM (https://youtu.be/6SolXSZ9iQM)
Quote from: Jockitch on February 14, 2018, 06:11:48 PM
Scheif always has a fire under him
Great team victory & these 2 points may be the key when looking back at how the Standings end.
It was just a joke... since he broke out with 2 goals and an assist in his third game back. Which is why I put 4 "laughing face" emoticons.
Quote from: Chris1982 on February 15, 2018, 08:55:54 AM
It was just a joke... since he broke out with 2 goals and an assist in his third game back. Which is why I put 4 "laughing face" emoticons.
NOT OBVIOUS ENOUGH! Quit disrespecting him! :P
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on February 15, 2018, 05:53:44 PM
NOT OBVIOUS ENOUGH! Quit disrespecting him! :P
Ok this time I will put 8 :P :P
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Lines at today's practice:
Connor - Scheifele - Wheeler
Perreault - Little - Roslovic
Ehlers - Copp - Laine
Petan - Hendricks - Armia
Morrissey - Myers
Enstrom - Byfuglien
Chariot - Kulikov
Hellebuyck Comrie
Extras: Poolman & Dano
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 15, 2018, 07:37:49 PM
Lines at today's practice:
Connor - Scheifele - Wheeler
Perreault - Little - Roslovic
Ehlers - Copp - Laine
Petan - Hendricks - Armia
Morrissey - Myers
Enstrom - Byfuglien
Chariot - Kulikov
Hellebuyck Comrie
Extras: Poolman & Dano
Interesting. Laine getting a demotion and Copp getting a promotion.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 15, 2018, 08:32:37 PM
Interesting. Laine getting a demotion and Copp getting a promotion.
Both Laine and Ehlers need some time on the bottom six to get their acts together. They're on awful stretches the last 10 games. Laine's last 3GP: 1G, 1P, -7... Brutal.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 15, 2018, 08:44:00 PM
Both Laine and Ehlers need some time on the bottom six to get their acts together. They're on awful stretches the last 10 games. Laine's last 3GP: 1G, 1P, -7... Brutal.
I missed Ehlers there...he's getting demoted too.
Know I have been critical of Copp before as being played as a 3rd liner, regardless whether at center or wing ......... but the offensive skills are not there.
Presently 3 goals in the first 17 games, 4 now total but ........... has ZERO goals in the past 27 games.
Expected Petan to have been or to be traded but ....... let him center Ehlers & Laine on the 3rd.
Quote from: Jockitch on February 16, 2018, 06:00:23 PM
Know I have been critical of Copp before as being played as a 3rd liner, regardless whether at center or wing ......... but the offensive skills are not there.
Presently 3 goals in the first 17 games, 4 now total but ........... has ZERO goals in the past 27 games.
Expected Petan to have been or to be traded but ....... let him center Ehlers & Laine on the 3rd.
If we did that the line would give up four goals a game.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on February 16, 2018, 07:09:06 PM
If we did that the line would give up four goals a game.
Petan's defensive zone play is frightening to watch at times.
And besides, the bottom six gets shuffled, anyway. Maurice's lines are rarely set in stone.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 16, 2018, 07:42:22 PM
Petan's defensive zone play is frightening to watch at times.
And besides, the bottom six gets shuffled, anyway. Maurice's lines are rarely set in stone.
It?s barely worth spending time commenting on
Well that's an old fashioned beat down so far it's 5-0 Jets !!
Buffy laid a licken on poor Greer who thought he was going to get a piece of Wheeler...
Buff's "Penalty Box Karaoke" is blowing up twitter right now... nice "Victory lap"...
What a game last night! ;D
Great goals, great hits, hilarious penalty box entertainment... Doesn't get any better.
what a great nite of relaxing watching a game instead of being tense, at the edge of one's seat till the final whistle ........ & of course cursing refs
Impressed how the Dmen can play such sound shut down without Buff (spent 17 minutes in the box) taking his long shifts.
Connor continues to be a most successful rookie with great speed to get to the corners, openings & with a sniper release as well.
7 - 2. Simply an impressive and convincing win. Well done Jets.
Some absolutely beautiful goals last night too that really showcase the Jets talent. Some great chemistry on the first line with Wheeler, Scheifele and Connor.
Quote from: ModAdmin on February 19, 2018, 06:52:26 AM
7 - 2. Simply an impressive and convincing win. Well done Jets.
I love our Jets and how well we are doing this year, but last night I would not consider our win as "convincing and impressive", as much as Florida just simply collapsing in the 3rd period. Their defense played like S**T and they looked horrible in the 3rd.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 19, 2018, 12:02:27 PM
Some absolutely beautiful goals last night too that really showcase the Jets talent. Some great chemistry on the first line with Wheeler, Scheifele and Connor.
Agreed. Love our lineup.
Another blowout win at home! The offensive prowess on this team is truly something to behold.
Hellebuyck robbing MacKenzie in the second period was pretty unreal.
Quote from: Chris1982 on February 19, 2018, 12:51:50 PM
Agreed. Love our lineup.
Yup... time to make a trade simply for making a trade. I don't think so. If they do make a trade, that player had beter be a huge talent AND a glue guy, because this locker room is saying "We have what it take to win, we're good, thanks" right now...
Scheifele named NHL 3rd star of the week.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 19, 2018, 01:13:07 PM
Another blowout win at home! The offensive prowess on this team is truly something to behold.
Hellebuyck robbing MacKenzie in the second period was pretty unreal.
In the past I would watch highlights from the other games and say to myself "wish the jets could move the puck and score like that..". Now it's a reality - those goals were true beauties.
This 10 game home stand is unreal - can we get that every year?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 19, 2018, 01:13:07 PM
Hellebuyck robbing MacKenzie in the second period was pretty unreal.
HUGE momentum shift right there.
Are we running into a hot goalie tonight? Blah
Quote from: theaardvark on February 04, 2018, 10:56:11 PM
You think anyone would leave us on the no trade list now? I'm thinking a lot of players would remove us now...
Not happening:
Per @FriedgeHNIC, #WPGJets are one of ten teams blocked by Mike Hoffman's modified NTC. #Sens
He mentions the #WPGJets are having issues with several players who have Winnipeg blocked on their lists.
Quote from: The Zipp on February 21, 2018, 01:49:25 AM
Not happening:
Per @FriedgeHNIC, #WPGJets are one of ten teams blocked by Mike Hoffman's modified NTC. #Sens
He mentions the #WPGJets are having issues with several players who have Winnipeg blocked on their lists.
It?s just the reality of our market, regardless of how good the team is.
Quote from: Jesse on February 21, 2018, 07:45:19 AM
It?s just the reality of our market, regardless of how good the team is.
Makes our current success even more impressive, considering the difficulty it is in trading for players and getting FA's to sign in Winnipeg. The "draft and develop" model, and patience from ownership has really paid off.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 21, 2018, 12:14:59 AM
Are we running into a hot goalie tonight? Blah
So frustrating when that happens.
Quote from: BomberPride on February 21, 2018, 02:12:45 PM
So frustrating when that happens.
A lack of discipline didn't help, either. Connor and Petan both took pretty bad penalties in the middle frame, which both resulted in goals for the Kings.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 21, 2018, 04:00:08 PM
A lack of discipline didn't help, either. Connor and Petan both took pretty bad penalties in the middle frame, which both resulted in goals for the Kings.
Agreed. Connor's was kind of a bad break, but Petan's was just dumb.
Agreed - there was a problem with keeping sticks down.
Those darn NTC's or Modified TC's are truly a terrible concern that Chevy & other teams face ........ unnecessarily IMO but it's the reality.
For me, I view it as cruel way to hamper or slant the playing field unjustly.
Quote from: Jockitch on February 21, 2018, 10:03:39 PM
Those darn NTC's or Modified TC's are truly a terrible concern that Chevy & other teams face ........ unnecessarily IMO but it's the reality.
For me, I view it as cruel way to hamper or slant the playing field unjustly.
I?m with you on this.
The NHL uses an SMS to try and even out the playing field, but yet they still allow MTC?s & NTC?s. >:(
All teams contribute to the business, so how can it be legally possible to strap a handicap on some organizations. ???
Quote from: Nic16 on February 22, 2018, 02:12:01 PM
All teams contribute to the business, so how can it be legally possible to strap a handicap on some organizations. ???
It's not a handicap any more than hiring a crappy GM is or employing bad players. There is nothing that says certain teams have to be picked more than others, each team has just as much of a chance to be chosen as any other. Don't suck and you won't be on lists
The players bargained for and received the ability to have more control over where they want to work if they so choose to just like anyone else.
HAve to wonder if either Florida team is on any ntc list. Signign a deal elsewhere, based on local tax laws, and then transferring to Florida's lack of taxation is like a huge bonus, even if the teams absolutely suck.
And, unlike regular folk in FLA, a millionaire hockey player can send their kids to private schools with security...
Quote from: Colton on February 22, 2018, 02:54:47 PM
It's not a handicap any more than hiring a crappy GM is or employing bad players. There is nothing that says certain teams have to be picked more than others, each team has just as much of a chance to be chosen as any other. Don't suck and you won't be on lists
The players bargained for and received the ability to have more control over where they want to work if they so choose to just like anyone else.
Hmmm...we don?t suck and yet we?re on these lists.
And just because the players bargained for and received it doesn?t mean one has to agree with it. I?m sure there were some owners who voted against it.
Trades come with the territory in Pro sports. If you choose it as a career you should expect that you may be traded or moved. It?s called relocation in the business world.
Quote from: Nic16 on February 22, 2018, 05:27:35 PM
Hmmm...we don?t suck and yet we?re on these lists.
Historically, the Jets have sucked and one really good season doesn't change it. That combined with Winnipeg not being a big, fancy market should make it pretty easy to understand why it's not a desirable location for players.
Quote from: Nic16 on February 22, 2018, 05:27:35 PM
Hmmm...we don?t suck and yet we?re on these lists.
And just because the players bargained for and received it doesn?t mean one has to agree with it. I?m sure there were some owners who voted against it.
Trades come with the territory in Pro sports. If you choose it as a career you should expect that you may be traded or moved. It?s called relocation in the business world.
They've never won a playoff game. 60 regular games doesn't change that. Once they inevitably do, you might start seeing players drop Winnipeg from their lists. Many are also submit before the season starts.
Many do expect it, that's why they negotiate a NMC/NTC clause into their contracts when they are able to.
Quote from: Colton on February 22, 2018, 06:02:06 PM
They've never won a playoff game. 60 regular games doesn't change that. Once they inevitably do, you might start seeing players drop Winnipeg from their lists. Many are also submit before the season starts.
Many do expect it, that's why they negotiate a NMC/NTC clause into their contracts when they are able to.
I get the winning thing, that?s nothing new. However, players are smart enough to look at a team roster and decide whether a team?s history of suckage may be coming to an end.
Players have the option of removing teams from their lists if they want. NTC?s & NMC?s are not in stone.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 22, 2018, 05:42:00 PM
Historically, the Jets have sucked and one really good season doesn't change it. That combined with Winnipeg not being a big, fancy market should make it pretty easy to understand why it's not a desirable location for players.
Like you said not easy to figure out. I think anyone who has lived in Winnipeg their entire life knows about yhe stigma.
But like I said, NMC?s & NTC?s especially at this time of year give certain teams an advantage. Which is something I simply don?t agree with.
It comes with the career you chose. You should be happy to play in the NHL no matter the location.
Quote from: Nic16 on February 22, 2018, 10:54:05 PM
Like you said not easy to figure out. I think anyone who has lived in Winnipeg their entire life knows about yhe stigma.
But like I said, NMC?s & NTC?s especially at this time of year give certain teams an advantage. Which is something I simply don?t agree with.
It comes with the career you chose. You should be happy to play in the NHL no matter the location.
Actually, it is easy to figure out: Winnipeg is a small market, its NHL franchise is
the primary sports focus, and winter here is pretty brutal. Combine that with the fact the Jets haven't established consistent success and it should come as no surprise Winnipeg is high on players' lists of places they'd prefer not to play.
NTCs and NMCs are something the NHLPA and the NHL agreed on, though. It doesn't necessarily give any one team an advantage over another.
And I'm pretty sure the vast majority of NHLers are happy to play in any of the 31 locations currently operating a franchise. Giving players the option to have preferred locations doesn't change that.
understand that Hutch & Mason have been cleared to play however Hutch apparently may be more game ready than Mason
Jaimie Phillips has been very good for the Moose while Hutch was out & then Comrie up with the Jets ........ is Chevy perhaps trying to move Hutch or Mason ?? I would !
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 23, 2018, 01:15:43 PM
Actually, it is easy to figure out: Winnipeg is a small market, its NHL franchise is the primary sports focus, and winter here is pretty brutal. Combine that with the fact the Jets haven't established consistent success and it should come as no surprise Winnipeg is high on players' lists of places they'd prefer not to play.
NTCs and NMCs are something the NHLPA and the NHL agreed on, though. It doesn't necessarily give any one team an advantage over another.
And I'm pretty sure the vast majority of NHLers are happy to play in any of the 31 locations currently operating a franchise. Giving players the option to have preferred locations doesn't change that.
Lol...meant to say not ?hard? to figure out.
Either way, I have a full grasp on NTC?s & MTC?s and why they exist and how they were derived, and why Wpg is on them...yadayadaya. Doesn?t mean I have to agree, like or accept them though.
Ie,
If Chevy wants Rick Nash for the playoff run and is willing to meet the Rangers demand, he could be told before even making the offer...don?t bother with the phone call your on Nash?s NTC list.
A couple of hrs later you find out Vegas (a team with zero playoff history) gets him...and possibly for less.
That?s an advantage!
Quote from: Nic16 on February 23, 2018, 05:03:49 PM
Lol...meant to say not ?hard? to figure out.
Either way, I have a full grasp on NTC?s & MTC?s and why they exist and how they were derived, and why Wpg is on them...yadayadaya. Doesn?t mean I have to agree, like or accept them though.
Ie,
If Chevy wants Rick Nash for the playoff run and is willing to meet the Rangers demand, he could be told before even making the offer...don?t bother with the phone call your on Nash?s NTC list.
A couple of hrs later you find out Vegas (a team with zero playoff history) gets him...and possibly for less.
That?s an advantage!
It's an advantage in the same way winning games increases your chances at winning the Stanley Cup is an advantage.
Interesting article in The Athletic where Hutchinson says he asked for a trade from the Jets when Mason was signed, because he feels that he is an NHL calibre goaltender.
According to Craig Custance, the Jets made a big push to acquire Brassard.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 23, 2018, 09:25:14 PM
Interesting article in The Athletic where Hutchinson says he asked for a trade from the Jets when Mason was signed, because he feels that he is an NHL calibre goaltender.
He was placed on waivers during the pre-season (the day after a pretty lousy performance) and cleared them, so that could be debatable. In his defense, he was pretty good in his lone outing vs. the Bolts back in January.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 23, 2018, 09:34:57 PM
According to Craig Custance, the Jets made a big push to acquire Brassard.
I wonder what the Jets were offering. I can't say I'm surprised the Penguins got him, though.
4-0 Jets on a Laine Laser!!! ;D
The shenanigans of the Golden Knights is maddening. Not only do the Jets have to contend with being on many no trade lists, now they have to deal with other teams blocking them from acquiring players. Chevy must be fuming! I hope the Golden Knights get swept in their first playoff series >:(
But, that aside, what a huge win for the team tonight! Putting some distance from the last wildcard spot!
"Pretty win, ugly suits" according to Wheeler :D :D
https://www.instagram.com/p/BfkMuBsDAU0/
Quote from: Chris1982 on February 24, 2018, 07:48:48 AM
"Pretty win, ugly suits" according to Wheeler :D :D
https://www.instagram.com/p/BfkMuBsDAU0/
Some of those are pretty awesome! :D
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 24, 2018, 09:13:49 AM
Some of those are pretty awesome! :D
Gotta love Ehlers clown shoes :D
Awesome shutout win last night! No stress for this guy :)
Does hutch get the start tonight ?
Helly maybe needs a rest?
Quote from: The Zipp on February 24, 2018, 03:40:26 PM
Does hutch get the start tonight ?
Helly maybe needs a rest?
Helle is the expected starter.
Blake Wheeler has got to be the front runner to win the Hart trophy this season. Probably won't happen because it's Winnipeg >:(
From Jeff Hamilton
Feeling more than a rumour at this point. Multiple sources tell me #NHLJets are pushing for C Tomas Plekanec, who is scratched for Habs tonight. Word is plan to centre 3rd line w/ Laine and Ehlers, move Copp to 4th line with Lowry and Armia.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 24, 2018, 04:37:49 PM
Helle is the expected starter.
Makes sense to me:
Michael Hutchinson will get the start in net for #nhljets tonight vs #nhlstars. No other lineup changes from Friday?s 4-0 win in St. Louis. #wfp
Quote from: The Zipp on February 24, 2018, 08:41:02 PM
Makes sense to me:
Michael Hutchinson will get the start in net for #nhljets tonight vs #nhlstars. No other lineup changes from Friday?s 4-0 win in St. Louis. #wfp
I was just going by The Score. They had Helle listed as the expected starter.
Quote from: The Zipp on February 24, 2018, 08:37:25 PM
From Jeff Hamilton
Feeling more than a rumour at this point. Multiple sources tell me #NHLJets are pushing for C Tomas Plekanec, who is scratched for Habs tonight. Word is plan to centre 3rd line w/ Laine and Ehlers, move Copp to 4th line with Lowry and Armia.
Read on Twitter it would likely be for a 3rd rounder.
Never thought of Plekanec but he is not a bad rental. Plays a lot of short handed situations, wins most of his face offs & is a Plus player.
Won't be likely signed by Jets for the next season.
Dallas sure seems to be targeting Scheifele tonight.
Just getting caught up now...10 seconds in Dallas scores ?
Quote from: The Zipp on February 25, 2018, 12:15:50 AM
Just getting caught up now...10 seconds in Dallas scores ?
It was a goal right off the face off.
And Ehlers just ties it up!
Laine misses on a penalty shot.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 25, 2018, 12:21:23 AM
Laine misses on a penalty shot.
Kind of a weak one. He may have been better off just stopping and laser it...good opportunity though too bad we couldn?t capitalize
Toby with the goal...it?s all in the beard...
And Laine makes up for the weak penalty shot with a wicked wrister!
Dallas changing their goalies now...
Oh my gosh ........ winning these 2 on the road was a terrific bonus. Fabulous team Victory
It's a wild suggestion ....... Jets trade Trouba to the Leafs for LH shot Dman Jake Gardiner with perhaps an extra mix added.
This because .... he is affordable, as Cap Friendly says next year left at a touch over $4.M., good size, age & a competitor.
Would be a chance to move Enstrom, probably retire next year, may bale on rough/tough playoffs, down to 6th Dman with Kulikov.
Trouba, of course extremely good, may continue to be a question when Chevy has to deal with him.
Laine now has the most GWG by a teenager in the NHL...
Quote from: Jockitch on February 25, 2018, 02:50:08 AM
Oh my gosh ........ winning these 2 on the road was a terrific bonus. Fabulous team Victory
Agreed. I was mad about some losses we had on our homestand, and had expected to lose 1 if not 2 of these b2b away games. Winning them both convincingly makes up for it ;D
The @MapleLeafs announced that the hockey club has acquired forwards Tomas Plekanec and Kyle Baun from the Montreal Canadiens in exchange for Rinat Valiev, Kerby Rychel and Toronto?s second round draft pick in 2018.
From Jeff Hamilton: With Tomas Plekanec now out of the mix for #NHLJets, wouldn't be surprised if interest for Tomas Tatar heats up. I've been told he was No. 3 on team's list, behind Derick Brassard -- heavy No. 1 -- and Plekanec. No word on where that stands, though.
I?ve always been high on Tatar.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 25, 2018, 03:48:18 PM
The @MapleLeafs announced that the hockey club has acquired forwards Tomas Plekanec and Kyle Baun from the Montreal Canadiens in exchange for Rinat Valiev, Kerby Rychel and Toronto?s second round draft pick in 2018.
I didn?t want Plekanec here anyways
I seriously like our in house depth at every position.
Chevy continues to draft the way he drafts we will always have a plethora of riches coming through the pipe.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 25, 2018, 03:58:10 PM
From Jeff Hamilton: With Tomas Plekanec now out of the mix for #NHLJets, wouldn't be surprised if interest for Tomas Tatar heats up. I've been told he was No. 3 on team's list, behind Derick Brassard -- heavy No. 1 -- and Plekanec. No word on where that stands, though.
I?ve always been high on Tatar.
I lik Tatar on my fish as well.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on February 25, 2018, 03:58:47 PM
I didn?t want Plekanec here anyways
I seriously like our in house depth at every position.
Chevy continues to draft the way he drafts we will always have a plethora of riches coming through the pipe.
I agree. The only reason I may have wanted Plekanec is the fear that Lowry's injury may be worse than is being reported.
Postma, Thorburn and Oduya were all placed on waivers today! Get 'er done Chevy! :D
And the Preds trade for Mark Letestu...a player the Jets were rumored to be interested in. Lots of rumors that other teams are trading for players just to keep them away from the Jets.
then the Preds flip Letestu to Columbus ....... go figure
Tatar is a winger who takes virtually no face offs ....... nor does he kill penalties for the Wings ........ head scratching rumour.
Quote from: Jockitch on February 25, 2018, 04:57:21 PM
Tatar is a winger who takes virtually no face offs ....... nor does he kill penalties for the Wings ........ head scratching rumour.
Plus he has 3 years remaining on his contract. Maybe the Jets would trade for him then flip him in the offseason..
yes .... 3 years at $5.3M per ......... ridiculous B.S. rumour as Chevy would never.
Quote from: Jockitch on February 25, 2018, 05:02:50 PM
yes .... 3 years at $5.3M per ......... ridiculous B.S. rumour as Chevy would never.
Unless there?s money going out and maybe they plan on playing Wheeler at C.
not sure if I suggested center Kevin Hayes from the Rangers on this site ........ affordable, decent offensive skills
Looks like we're in the market now for Stan Pat... won't cost any assets at all, and leaves us some cap space...
Quote from: theaardvark on February 25, 2018, 09:25:36 PM
Looks like we're in the market now for Stan Pat... won't cost any assets at all, and leaves us some cap space...
I'm fine with standing pat, assuming Lowry is able to return to full health prior to the playoffs.
Wouldn't mind seeing a left shooting dman with playoff experience. Playoffs are an entirely different beast.
According to Sens fans on their message board the Jets offered a 1st, 2nd and a good prospect for Brassard. I?m glad we didn?t get him if that?s accurate.
Really surprised Chevy is trying for anyone. Not only is it not his style, but getting our injured guys back is like making some great acquisitions without giving up anything!
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According to Sens fans on their message board the Jets offered a 1st, 2nd and a good prospect for Brassard. I?m glad we didn?t get him if that?s accurate.
I doubt thats true.
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I doubt thats true.
They say Dreger reported it, but I have not heard or seen that from Dreger.
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They say Dreger reported it, but I have not heard or seen that from Dreger.
For as long as they built this team on drafts id be suprised if we gave up a 1 and a 2nd for a rental player for the 3rd line.
Maybe some prospects we might not see fitting the building of our team. But i doubt Chevy is handing out draft picks in the first rounds. Its the future of the team and its they way they have set out.
Untill they know how close they are i dont really see us making many moves that involve high round drafts.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 26, 2018, 12:08:39 AM
For as long as they built this team on drafts id be suprised if we gave up a 1 and a 2nd for a rental player for the 3rd line.
Maybe some prospects we might not see fitting the building of our team. But i doubt Chevy is handing out draft picks in the first rounds. Its the future of the team and its they way they have set out.
Untill they know how close they are i dont really see us making many moves that involve high round drafts.
Brassard is under contract next season so maybe Chevy was thinking he could flip Brassard himself and get back some of the assets he used to acquire him.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 25, 2018, 10:45:33 PM
According to Sens fans on their message board the Jets offered a 1st, 2nd and a good prospect for Brassard. I?m glad we didn?t get him if that?s accurate.
We wouldn?t have been in on him if we offered less.
Quote from: Jesse on February 26, 2018, 12:25:22 AM
We wouldn?t have been in on him if we offered less.
Rumor is Chevy offered a 1st in 2018, a 2nd in 2019 and one of Petan, Lemieux or Comrie. But Chevy needed Ottawa to retain salary and that?s how Vegas got involved.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 26, 2018, 01:40:47 AM
Rumor is Chevy offered a 1st in 2018, a 2nd in 2019 and one of Petan, Lemieux or Comrie. But Chevy needed Ottawa to retain salary and that?s how Vegas got involved.
I would hate to see Lemieux gone.
Dreger says Jets are interested in Ian Cole.
I will honestly be shocked if we make a move.
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I will honestly be shocked if we make a move.
I'll be shocked if we don't, but I think it'll be a depth type move and not a big name.
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Dreger says Jets are interested in Ian Cole.
Not a bad idea, IMO. An experienced blue liner who provides depth.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 26, 2018, 01:07:28 PM
Not a bad idea, IMO. An experienced blue liner who provides depth.
missed on that one - he is off to Columbus...and I use "miss" loosely - not even sure if we wanted him.
#NHLJets D Jacob Trouba skating this morning at Bell MTS Place. Team practices at 11 am.
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#NHLJets D Jacob Trouba skating this morning at Bell MTS Place. Team practices at 11 am.
Awesome news. Can't wait to see him back on the blue line.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 26, 2018, 02:03:04 PM
#NHLJets D Jacob Trouba skating this morning at Bell MTS Place. Team practices at 11 am.
Apparently Lowry and Matthias were skating this morning as well.
Trouba, Lowry and Matthias would be some excellent rental players if we are able to 'acquire' them!
Columbus has 5 Lhand shot Dmen now in their starting 6......... would the Jets want Johnson a pending UFA
Quote from: Jockitch on February 26, 2018, 03:16:04 PM
Columbus has 5 Lhand shot Dmen now in their starting 6......... would the Jets want Johnson a pending UFA
I'd think the price for Johnson would be higher than Chevy wants to pay.
The Winnipeg Jets have acquired forward Paul Stastny from the St. Louis Blues in exchange for a first-round pick in the 2018 NHL Draft, forward Erik Foley and a conditional fourth-round pick in the 2020 NHL Draft.
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The Winnipeg Jets have acquired forward Paul Stastny from the St. Louis Blues in exchange for a first-round pick in the 2018 NHL Draft, forward Erik Foley and a conditional fourth-round pick in the 2020 NHL Draft.
Wow! Chevy with the shark move!!!
ST. LOUIS - St. Louis Blues President of Hockey Operations and General Manager Doug Armstrong announced today the club has acquired a conditional first round pick in 2018, a conditional fourth round pick in 2020 and forward Erik Foley from the Winnipeg Jets in exchange for forward Paul Stastny.
Foley, 20, was drafted 78th overall by the Winnipeg Jets in 2015. The 6-foot, 185-pound forward has dressed in 32 games for Providence College this season, posting 34 points (15 goals, 19 assists) and 14 penalty minutes. Overall, the Mansfield, Massachusetts native has collected 87 points (37 goals, 50 assists) in 104 career games for Providence.
In international competition, Foley captured a gold medal with the United States along with Blues forward Tage Thompson at the 2017 World Junior Championships.
Stastny, 32, has dressed in 63 games for the Blues this season, posting 40 points (12 goals, 28 assists) and 14 penalty minutes. The 6-foot, 193-pound forward is a veteran of 12 NHL seasons, including stints with Colorado and St. Louis. Overall, Stastny has accumulated 633 points (216 goals, 417 assists) and 380 penalty minutes in 805 career NHL regular season games.
Terrific rental but ........yikes ...... thought Foley had a future with the Jets
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Paul Stastny is a pending UFA. The #stlblues retain 50% of his remaining salary.
Chevy is all in...I love it! This might be the biggest acquisition of trade deadline!
Wow, nice move! Solid upgrade down the middle.
apparently he Waived his NMC to have the trade happen ....... he wants that chance at a Cup .......... I am soooooooo pumped.
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#NHLJets D Toby Enstrom just helped off the ice, smashed stick in anger, after blocking a shot.
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apparently he Waived his NMC to have the trade happen ....... he wants that chance at a Cup .......... I am soooooooo pumped.
yah..St. Louis is looking to be on the downward slope...still could change though and he could be facing his old team in the playoffs.
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#NHLJets D Toby Enstrom just helped off the ice, smashed stick in anger, after blocking a shot.
No surprise. He's always injured. At least Chevy has time today to trade for a depth LHD. Jack Johnson is still out there...
Quote from: theaardvark on February 25, 2018, 09:25:36 PM
Looks like we're in the market now for Stan Pat... won't cost any assets at all, and leaves us some cap space...
Yeah, Chevy aggressively pursuing multiple players pre-deadline really made it seem like he was going to do nothing today ::)
Conditions of the picks in Stastny trade:
If Winnipeg's pick is Nos. 1-3 this year, which it won't be, the Blues will get No. 19 overall.
If the Blues don't sign Foley before Aug. 16, 2019, they receive the Jets' 4th rounder in 2020. #stlblues
You know you're getting old when you hear the Jets acquired Paul Stastny, and you get nostalgic about the numerous seasons you watched his dad play :D :D :D :D
Blues also retained 50% of Statsny's contract. Nice!
I have to say, it sure is fun to be in the mix!!
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I have to say, it sure is fun to be in the mix!!
We were in the mix WAY before this acquisition ;) ;)
I don't think I really like deadline deals. I get that we paid the going rate but it seems like a lot to give up. Essentially, it's a first, third and probably 4th rounder. Erik Foley is a pretty much a point a game player in the NCAA over the last two seasons.
we've needed another Lshot Dman for quite awhile ....... surprise us again Chevy
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on February 26, 2018, 04:44:11 PM
I don't think I really like deadline deals. I get that we paid the going rate but it seems like a lot to give up. Essentially, it's a first, third and probably 4th rounder. Erik Foley is a pretty much a point a game player in the NCAA over the last two seasons.
Our first is pretty much a 2nd because it?ll be so late in the first round.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on February 26, 2018, 04:44:11 PM
I don't think I really like deadline deals. I get that we paid the going rate but it seems like a lot to give up. Essentially, it's a first, third and probably 4th rounder. Erik Foley is a pretty much a point a game player in the NCAA over the last two seasons.
Sure, but he still hadn't signed an ELC with the Jets.
I don't think the Jets gave up a lot for a consistent 40-point centre who also performs pretty well in the post-season.
And from the sounds of it, the 4th rounder is only given up on the condition Foley signs with the Blues prior to Aug. 16, 2019.
We are basically at the point where we have a backlog of prospects so giving up a pick here and there now is perfectly fine to do. Ask me this two years ago and I'd have thought it to be asinine, though. We are in a different place now and can afford to make these moves if the hockey brains who run this team think we do.
Quote from: blue_or_die on February 26, 2018, 05:08:46 PM
We are basically at the point where we have a backlog of prospects so giving up a pick here and there now is perfectly fine to do. Ask me this two years ago and I'd have thought it to be asinine, though. We are in a different place now and can afford to make these moves if the hockey brains who run this team think we do.
You gotta give up something to get a player like Stastny. Look what the Predators gave up for Hartman; it's about the same.
This is good trade for the Jets, whose window has now opened. At some point, you have to trade away some picks and/or prospects to contend.
Not really seeing a need for Stastny
Paul Maurice says Tyler Myers was feeling under the weather and Toby Enstrom is fine after blocking a shot during today?s practice. #NHLJets
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Not really seeing a need for Stastny
Are you serious? It bumps Lowry to the 4th line and Hendricks to the press box.
Quote from: Chris1982 on February 26, 2018, 05:34:59 PM
Not really seeing a need for Stastny
of course you must jest ......... hahaha, good one
I?m thinking Chevy had a sneaky feeling Foley may play out his college career and wait for free agency. Because let?s face it, the Jets roster was not going to be easy to crack.
Chevy finally gets his hands on Stastny after 4 yrs. He should be a perfect fit between 27-29.
I hope Chevy is able to extend him for a few more yrs. 3 yrs - 12 mil... 4.5/4/3.5??
Quote from: Nic16 on February 26, 2018, 06:25:42 PM
I?m thinking Chevy had a sneaky feeling Foley may play out his college career and wait for free agency. Because let?s face it, the Jets roster was not going to be easy to crack.
Chevy finally gets his hands on Stastny after 4 yrs. He should be a perfect fit between 27-29.
I hope Chevy is able to extend him for a few more yrs. 3 yrs - 12 mil... 4.5/4/3.5??
I don't see how that fits in our current cap situation. I see it as pretty much impossible.
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Not really seeing a need for Stastny
It wasn't really about need. It was about bolstering the middle by adding an elite centre for a hopefully deep playoff run. And Cheveldayoff gave up very little to do so.
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#NHLJets captain Blake Wheeler says he called Stastny last night, but wasn't taking credit for getting him to waive his no-trade clause. "I think the opportunity to contend was more attractive than anything I was going to say."
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Both Wheeler & Stastny wear #26. Wheeler joked his longtime friend could have the # but there would be a lot of pressure that goes with it. Happiest we've seen Wheeler in a while.
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Not really seeing a need for Stastny
he's instantly the 2nd best face-off man on the team, passes the puck well and rumour has it could be teamed with Laine and Ehlers.
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Jets acquire Joe Morrow.
honestly don't know who that is...
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Jets acquire Joe Morrow.
honestly don't know who that is...
A depth D man with a left handed shot.
So for the time being, it's:
Connor-Scheif-Wheeler
Perreault-Little-Roslovic
Laine-Stastny-Ehlers
Copp-Lowry-Armia
right?
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The Winnipeg Jets have acquired defenceman Joe Morrow from the Montreal Canadiens in exchange for a fourth-round pick in the 2018 NHL Draft.
As a result of today?s trades, defenceman Tucker Poolman and forward Nic Petan have been reassigned to the Manitoba Moose.
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And there's the depth defenceman for #NHLJets - Morrow, 25, has 5 G, 11 P in 38 GP with #Habs this season. 1st round pick (23rd overall) by #Pens in 2011. Played 5 playoff games with #Bruins last spring. Left-shot insurance policy. $650,000 AAV and is an RFA on July 1
Decent depth acquisition.
Morrow looks like extremely good value.
Quote from: blue_or_die on February 26, 2018, 07:40:53 PM
Morrow looks like extremely good value.
Just talked to a buddy who lives in Quebec and is a big Habs fan. He says that Morrow "has some offensive upside, but is a liability on D...but all Habs D-men are a liability on D".
Morrow was a 1st draft pick with good offensive skill. He had a pretty good playoff with the Bruins, but outside of that he has struggled to hold down a spot on an NHL roster. Teams have worked on his defensive game, but game smarts & confidence continues to be a road block.
He?s only 25, so there is still room to develop, but time is slowly running out on him.
Chevy sure didn't pick up experience in Morrow. Hope nothing happens to our Dmen going forward or we will have to depend on Poolman or Morrow to step in - Sketchy !
Quote from: Jockitch on February 26, 2018, 08:00:14 PM
Chevy sure didn't pick up experience in Morrow. Hope nothing happens to our Dmen going forward or we will have to depend on Poolman or Morrow to step in - Sketchy !
M'eh, we've dealt very well with injuries this year. I'm just happy we picked up anyone.
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Chevy sure didn't pick up experience in Morrow. Hope nothing happens to our Dmen going forward or we will have to depend on Poolman or Morrow to step in - Sketchy !
Well that's specifically what Chevy mentioned in his presser today...he likes Morrow's playoff experience from last year.
Huge game tonight vs the Preds - first of three before the season ends. A clean 2 points would be awesome. Hope the fans are extra loud and amped up - Nashville?s crowd does a great job for them we need to do the same.
Probably the most excited I've ever been for a game this year. This one is huge. Would allow us to tie in points with Nashville, arguably the scariest team in our division/conference/league.
It would really set the playoff stage to finish with 2 (clean?) points, or at least a hard-fought battle.
Looking forward to seeing Stastny in a Jets jersey!
I really dislike going to weekday games, because I need to be up early during the week, but I'm seriously considering going to tonight's game.
When you have a $7mil guy playing C on your third line with 27 and 29, two of the leagues hottest young guns... that is depth.
Copp, Lowry, Armia as a fourth line... good size on an energy line...
Quote from: Nic16 on February 26, 2018, 06:25:42 PM
I?m thinking Chevy had a sneaky feeling Foley may play out his college career and wait for free agency. Because let?s face it, the Jets roster was not going to be easy to crack.
Chevy finally gets his hands on Stastny after 4 yrs. He should be a perfect fit between 27-29.
I hope Chevy is able to extend him for a few more yrs. 3 yrs - 12 mil... 4.5/4/3.5??
Yea....at first blush this looks like an overpay for a rental. However, when you dive in and see just how far down Foley is on our prospect list it begins to make sense. The sheer amount of guys in the hopper that we have would make it near impossible for Foley to make our team in the next several years....if at all. We can't even find room for quality guys like Petan or Lemieux who are blue chippers. Not to mention the plethora of other guys nipping at their heels. In order for a young guy to come in we have to ship an old guy out or they have to beat a Roslovic, Connor, Armia, Tanev, etc out of a job. Fact of the matter is that we have an embarrassment of riches in prospects and protected young players. Foley will have infinitely more value to the Blues than he does for us and we need to take our runs at the Stanley Cup now before the cap makes our current group unaffordable.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 27, 2018, 03:25:54 PM
When you have a $7mil guy playing C on your third line with 27 and 29, two of the leagues hottest young guns... that is depth.
Copp, Lowry, Armia as a fourth line... good size on an energy line...
He?s overpaid at $7 million.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 27, 2018, 04:01:00 PM
He?s overpaid at $7 million.
Glad we're only paying him a prorated 3.5mil...
Best part of everything is the team as it is playing was not touched. No Moose or Jets players were involved...
Stastny will wear #25 and Morrow will wear #70.
Stastny will centre Laine and Ehlers tonight vs. the Predators.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 27, 2018, 04:22:35 PM
Glad we're only paying him a prorated 3.5mil...
Best part of everything is the team as it is playing was not touched. No Moose or Jets players were involved...
Yep, what's that, less than a million bucks for the rest of the season and playoffs?
I think Chevy paid market value for Stastny.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 27, 2018, 04:57:42 PM
Stastny will wear #25 and Morrow will wear #70.
Stastny will centre Laine and Ehlers tonight vs. the Predators.
Sounds like he will start there but will get some time on other lines depending on how the game goes. But Maurice wants to get him time with other guys to.
Hes going to get some time on the PP but wont play PK as our PK system is quite a bit different from the blues.
With Stastny effectively replacing Copp to centre 29 and 27, can we really call that the third line anymore? Sounds like a second like to me, regardless of how the depth chart is written.
Perreault - Little - Roslovic is the "checking" line then?
That's for the opposing teams coach to figure out. However you want to rank them there will be a miss-match somewhere that the Jets can take advantage of.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 27, 2018, 08:20:17 PM
Perreault - Little - Roslovic is the "checking" line then?
There's really no such thing anymore. The way teams defend is by attacking. We are absolutely the byproduct of that new reality. When healthy, we have four lines that can and will score and attack. That's what every team is striving for.
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Perreault - Little - Roslovic is the "checking" line then?
The Copp (Lowry when healthy) line is the checking/shutdown line.
Quote from: blue_or_die on February 27, 2018, 07:52:48 PM
With Stastny effectively replacing Copp to centre 29 and 27, can we really call that the third line anymore? Sounds like a second like to me, regardless of how the depth chart is written.
Stastny in between 29 and 27 is better than a lot of NHL teams first lines :o
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on February 27, 2018, 09:06:52 PM
There's really no such thing anymore. The way teams defend is by attacking. We are absolutely the byproduct of that new reality. When healthy, we have four lines that can and will score and attack. That's what every team is striving for.
This is pretty much what Maurice has said. The idea is to roll 4 lines and not have to worry to much about matching lines. The system or the idea of it is if you have to shorten the bench you want to also swap players in and out also. It makes the team much harder to play against.
And like you said every line is going to attack. And we seen they can all score.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 27, 2018, 10:15:44 PM
Stastny in between 29 and 27 is better than a lot of NHL teams first lines :o
Looks like he picked the wrong number... should have been 28... if he's going to be between 27 and 29...
Questionable challenge by Maurice ...things have opened in the second
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Questionable challenge by Maurice ...things have opened in the second
Yeah, that didn?t even look close. Cost us big time. Hanging onto a one goal lead after 40... Final 8-7 Jets???
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Yeah, that didn?t even look close. Cost us big time. Hanging onto a one goal lead after 40... Final 8-7 Jets???
Ugh. You might be right. Always depressing when you give up a goal while your goal is being announced
Preds never quit. Weak one to tie at 5
Terrible defence - we missed enstrom. Worst possible outcome unless there is a miracle
Big time choke job with lots on the line
Argh! Kulikov and Myers have NOT been good tonight. Not to mention a couple of soft goals on Hellebuyck. Empty net goal coming up I?m sure...
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on February 28, 2018, 02:42:50 AM
Argh! Kulikov and Myers have NOT been good tonight. Not to mention a couple of soft goals on Hellebuyck. Empty net goal coming up I?m sure...
Squandered a point for sure. No excuse for that. So mad right now
Jets blew a couple of multi goal leads. Can?t let the foot off the gas against the Preds. At least this gives them a taste of how they will need to play in the playoffs. Stings though.
Good god
Reasons they blew it...
Stupidest coaching challenges I?ve seen in ages bravo PauMau GOAL AGAINST on the PP you suck PauMau
Pairing chariot and morrow was the dumbest idea ever!
Myers Frenchy Little Armia were all horrid all night, Little looks old out there, Myers seemed to be unable to handle the pace slow footed
hellebuck? Well you fill in the blank_________ :'(
This game reminded me of the series versus the Ducks where the Jets wilted like a flower in the fall as the game came to a close.
I liked Stastny though strong on the draw the dish talent is there for sure.
On to the next...
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on February 28, 2018, 03:37:25 AM
Reasons they blew it...
Stupidest coaching challenges I?ve seen in ages bravo PauMau GOAL AGAINST on the PP you suck PauMau
Pairing chariot and morrow was the dumbest idea ever!
Myers Frenchy Little Armia were all horrid all night, Little looks old out there, Myers seemed to be unable to handle the pace slow footed
hellebuck? Well you fill in the blank_________ :'(
This game reminded me of the series versus the Ducks where the Jets wilted like a flower in the fall as the game came to a close.
I liked Stastny though strong on the draw the dish talent is there for sure.
On to the next...
I love ya.
But this is just stupid.
We are close to to being the best team. Over all.
These silly things you say are just so ::)
Cmon man we have gone from crap to one of the best teams in the NHL and all you have done is ***** how Chevy and Morrice couldnt do it.
Well they have done it.
Crow?
Loved the interview Chevy gave during the first intermission with Sara Orlesky - very forthcoming and insightful about some of the days leading up to the trade deadline. Chooses his words very carefully, but lets the fans know some of what goes on internally and behind the scenes.
Quote from: Chris1982 on February 28, 2018, 10:55:42 AM
Loved the interview Chevy gave during the first intermission with Sara Orlesky - very forthcoming and insightful about some of the days leading up to the trade deadline. Chooses his words very carefully, but lets the fans know some of what goes on internally and behind the scenes.
Chevy's interviews have been getting better. He used to just talk for like 30 minutes and not really say anything of substance, but now he gives a little more insight.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 28, 2018, 05:10:37 AM
I love ya.
But this is just stupid.
We are close to to being the best team. Over all.
These silly things you say are just so ::)
Cmon man we have gone from crap to one of the best teams in the NHL and all you have done is ***** how Chevy and Morrice couldnt do it.
Well they have done it.
Crow?
I was commenting on that 1 game only. I love Chevy and meh on PauMau
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 28, 2018, 12:19:55 PM
Chevy's interviews have been getting better. He used to just talk for like 30 minutes and not really say anything of substance, but now he gives a little more insight.
I think the team being successful this season has allowed him to open up more in terms of sharing information. He seems to play his cards pretty close.
Entertaining game last night but the end result is beyond disappointing. Consecutive two-goal leads blown on home ice.
Stastny had an incredible debut.
Probably Helly's worst game of the season. Defence collapsed.
Oh well. Shake it off and be ready for the Wings.
Quote from: BomberPride on February 28, 2018, 02:54:50 PM
Probably Helly's worst game of the season. Defence collapsed.
Oh well. Shake it off and be ready for the Wings.
Exactly right...... when Trouba, Lowry, and Tanev are in the lineup we'll see if the outcome is the same.
Bad night for #37 to **** the bed. Not that Rinne was much better.
We scored 5 goals on the team tied for second in the league... and it wasn't enough.
Hate to pin the loss on anyone, but watching Kulikov backing off on that neutral zone puck I knew it wasn't going to end well..
Quote from: JMT21 on February 28, 2018, 04:16:47 PM
Exactly right...... when Trouba, Lowry, and Tanev are in the lineup we'll see if the outcome is the same.
Bad night for #37 to **** the bed. Not that Rinne was much better.
i love hammering Enstrom on occasion too...I think we missed him last night though.
So, we haven't won a game since getting Stasny / Morrow.... would we have fared better with Poolman in the lineup last night?
Quote from: theaardvark on February 28, 2018, 04:53:27 PM
So, we haven't won a game since getting Stasny / Morrow.... would we have fared better with Poolman in the lineup last night?
I'd say yes. Morrow looked pretty bad.
I think they honestly thought Toby was going to play...something must have changed and they rolled with Morrow. Overall defence and goaltending were soft...and yah that puck in the neutral zone was a killer - I said to my son when Kuli backed off "Oh no they are going to score"....
I don't know enough about defensive schemes in hockey - maybe that was the right call to make under the circumstances but my gut tells me he should have gone after the puck instead of backing off.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 28, 2018, 05:05:53 PM
I'd say yes. Morrow looked pretty bad.
Eh, maybe. Myers and Kulikov had pretty terrible outings, so I doubt swapping a third pairing defenseman would've made a difference.
Looks like Mason will go down to the Moose this weekend for a quick conditioning stint. Enstrom won't play tonight vs. the Red Wings.
I love staying in on a Friday to watch Jets games. Should be fun.
Wanting revenge on a crappy Detroit team for killing us in December, and I'm also still crotchety for the way we lost to Nashville. I WANT BLOOD TONIGHT lol.
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 02, 2018, 01:23:56 PM
I love staying in on a Friday to watch Jets games. Should be fun.
Wanting revenge on a crappy Detroit team for killing us in December, and I'm also still crotchety for the way we lost to Nashville. I WANT BLOOD TONIGHT lol.
i agree...we need to destroy the Red Wings...Preds aren't losing much and Minnesota is nipping at our heels.
I actually think it doesn't matter very much, especially with this new playoff seeding. If we finish first, we're almost guaranteed to play Nashville in the second round anyway (assuming we make it). If we finish second or third, it's looking like either way we play Minnesota. I suppose a game 7 home game is an advantage but statistically, it's not overwhelmingly so (60.7% home team wins game 7). The danger might be dropping to a wildcard spot but that's looking unlikely, if we did though, it's Vegas or Nashville. Nashville we'd just be getting one round earlier and Vegas would be a tougher initial matchup (compared to Minnesota) but would let us cross over to the Pacific and play a weaker second round opponent in either San Jose or LA than you would face in the Preds.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on March 02, 2018, 03:04:25 PM
I actually think it doesn't matter very much, especially with this new playoff seeding. If we finish first, we're almost guaranteed to play Nashville in the second round anyway (assuming we make it). If we finish second or third, it's looking like either way we play Minnesota. I suppose a game 7 home game is an advantage but statistically, it's not overwhelmingly so (60.7% home team wins game 7). The danger might be dropping to a wildcard spot but that's looking unlikely, if we did though, it's Vegas or Nashville. Nashville we'd just be getting one round earlier and Vegas would be a tougher initial matchup (compared to Minnesota) but would let us cross over to the Pacific and play a weaker second round opponent in either San Jose or LA than you would face in the Preds.
For me I wouldn't want to face Nashville in round 1...that is prob worst case scenario (apart from missing the playoffs altogether)...personally i don't like the idea of facing the Ducks round 1 either - we don't seem to match up with them well and the 9:00 start times are killers (waaaah big baby that I am)
at some point we will probably have to face the Wild and Preds if we think a Cup run is doable...prefer to see them later than sooner as I think they will be toughest teams.
and I will always want game 7 at home whenever possible.
Fun to be thinking about this stuff in March instead of "next year time" like some of the other Canadian teams are.
I hate facing teams coming off humiliating losses. We always seem to get the rebound games where the players have just been embarrassed, and come back and play way over their heads.
Quote from: theaardvark on March 02, 2018, 04:21:11 PM
I hate facing teams coming off humiliating losses. We always seem to get the rebound games where the players have just been embarrassed, and come back and play way over their heads.
IIRC, we got spanked by Detroit when we played them in December (5-1) after they lost 7-to-something vs the Habs the previous game. Ugh...
Quote from: theaardvark on March 02, 2018, 04:21:11 PM
I hate facing teams coming off humiliating losses. We always seem to get the rebound games where the players have just been embarrassed, and come back and play way over their heads.
How is that relevant for tonight's game? ???
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 02, 2018, 06:30:11 PM
IIRC, we got spanked by Detroit when we played them in December (5-1) after they lost 7-to-something vs the Habs the previous game. Ugh...
The Jets were terrible in that game and the Red Wings took advantage. I think the home team will be fired up tonight, though.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 02, 2018, 08:45:22 PM
How is that relevant for tonight's game? ???
Sorry... thought it was Detroit that got pasted by San Jose last night... but that was Chicago. Case of Originalsixlexia
Two points - not a blowout but a win!!! On the road now ...
Quote from: The Zipp on March 03, 2018, 02:45:13 AM
Two points - not a blowout but a win!!! On the road now ...
For six games. Uggh.
Quote from: True Blue on March 03, 2018, 03:14:23 AM
For six games. Uggh.
Would be nice to get 6+ points out of that, even if some of that comes from OT losses. Actually, I fully expect to win 4 of those 6 (or get points in most of those games).
Good win for the Jets. I wanted more of a thrashing but a win's a win, lol
No Toby Lowry Trouba
I think they will be refreshed to be back out on the road.
Deadly PP continues
Fefe has another good game I predict.
Darn - preds win again - another close one but they pull them out...first place is going to be tough for the jets unless they go on a tear and Nashville slumps a bit.
2 road points...decent game...got lucky on the rebound off the ref - it happens though
Don?t like how the Jets play with a 2 goal lead but they won..
Nice scrappy road win tonight. Whatever it takes to get two points.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 05, 2018, 01:29:07 AM
Nice scrappy road win tonight. Whatever it takes to get two points.
I like they can get these wins.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 05, 2018, 05:52:37 AM
I like they can get these wins.
Yep, that's how they will need to win in the playoffs. Playoff hockey is a different beast.
Talk about the puck bouncing your way...
Off the post, off the ref's face, to a guy you just traded for who bangs it into the net for the game winner...
I think this will be a different playoff team than we saw last time. This team has led/been tied for most of its playoff history (4 games), just not the final few minutes of every game... the current roster isn't likely to give those late goals up.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 05, 2018, 05:52:37 AM
I like they can get these wins.
Gotta be able to protect a lead come the post-season. And they're presently doing it without two key defensemen and two key forwards. Just wait until they're back on the ice. ;D
Laine is on a tear lately. In his last 8GP, he has 10G, 16P, and is +10 with a whopping 45.5% shooting percentage. With his second straight two-goal game (his third in last 5GP), he passed Steve Yzerman and is now sixth all-time in goals scored by a teenager (71G). Who's ahead of him? Sidney Crosby (75G), Brian Bellows (76G), Wayne Gretzky (76G), Dale Hawerchuk (85G), Jimmy Carson (92G). With 17 games to go, finishing third all-time is certainly doable.
With 4G and 3A in his last three games, Laine was named the NHL's Second Star of the Week.
Looks like it could be Mason in net tonight.
@WiebeSunSports
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It?s an optional skate for #NHLJets and Steve Mason is taking the early shot routine normally assigned to the starting goalie. Expecting him to get the call vs #NYR tonight. Would be his first #NHL start since Jan. 5
Good for him, hope he has a great game.
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 06, 2018, 04:31:49 PM
Good for him, hope he has a great game.
The Jets need him to find his form. And sooner than later. Hellebuyck could use the rest.
Quote from: The Zipp on March 06, 2018, 03:52:50 PM
Looks like it could be Mason in net tonight.
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It?s an optional skate for #NHLJets and Steve Mason is taking the early shot routine normally assigned to the starting goalie. Expecting him to get the call vs #NYR tonight. Would be his first #NHL start since Jan. 5
Eeeek!
4 goals in the AHL = what.... 6.5 goals in the NHL?
Guess we will need at least 7 tonight. That is possible the Rangers have allowed 50+ shots in their last few games.
Bryan Little's contract concerns me; his production has really take a dip this season and we have him under contract for 6 years after this season. Can we retroactively give his contract to Stastny? ;)
Laine opens the scoring and his matches his goal total from his rookie campaign. ;D
Looks like Laine is going to trigger all incentives in his contract, which I believe are around $2.6 million.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 06, 2018, 09:27:54 PM
Bryan Little's contract concerns me; his production has really take a dip this season and we have him under contract for 6 years after this season. Can we retroactively give his contract to Stastny? ;)
LOL... that would be nice.
I dont mind Little or his contract. He does his job. Hes not really a flashy type player. We have a hard working 2nd line.
And Laine scores again! ;D
His 12th career multi-goal game, his fifth on the season, and his third in a row.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 07, 2018, 12:28:09 AM
And Laine scores again! ;D
His 12th career multi-goal game, his fifth on the season, and his third in a row.
Laine has a krazy shot. Dont matter from where or what kind of shot. Its deadly.
Hope Schief is alright. Good deal to shut him down.
Scheifele done for the night.
We have a Gem. 8 years at 10 per.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 07, 2018, 01:01:36 AM
Scheifele done for the night.
Hopefully, just a precaution... :-[
Laine gets the hatty. Mason gets the shutout. Jets get the W!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 07, 2018, 01:54:07 AM
Hopefully, just a precaution... :-[
Laine gets the hatty. Mason gets the shutout. Jets get the W!
From Twitter: #NHLJets HC Paul Maurice says he can?t provide much of an update on status of Mark Scheifele. He?s hopeful but Scheifele needs to be checked out again tomorrow. Maurice said it?s not related to previous upper-body injury that kept him out 16 games
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 07, 2018, 01:57:05 AM
From Twitter: #NHLJets HC Paul Maurice says he can?t provide much of an update on status of Mark Scheifele. He?s hopeful but Scheifele needs to be checked out again tomorrow. Maurice said it?s not related to previous upper-body injury that kept him out 16 games
Not sure I believe that it isn?t related to the other injury but likely doesn?t really matter...hopefully he is ok
Can?t gain any ground on the preds :(
Hatrick Laine...
I think he is answering critics that were saying how all his goals are coming on the PP... the shots he put past countryman Henrik Lundqvist were ridiculous. Watching the poor man shake his head in disbelief after each goals was priceless.
Quote from: theaardvark on March 07, 2018, 04:46:09 AM
Hatrick Laine...
I think he is answering critics that were saying how all his goals are coming on the PP... the shots he put past countryman Henrik Lundqvist were ridiculous. Watching the poor man shake his head in disbelief after each goals was priceless.
Lundqvist is Swedish.
Patrik is just unreal right now. I?m at a point where I?m a bit surprised when he doesn?t score when he shoots ;D Just absolutely loving this team right now!
What an absolute nasty, filthy release.
I didn't even see his second goal because the camera couldn't catch it.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on March 07, 2018, 11:40:54 AM
Lundqvist is Swedish.
Patrik is just unreal right now. I?m at a point where I?m a bit surprised when he doesn?t score when he shoots ;D Just absolutely loving this team right now!
;D
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on March 07, 2018, 11:40:54 AM
Lundqvist is Swedish.
Patrik is just unreal right now. I?m at a point where I?m a bit surprised when he doesn?t score when he shoots ;D Just absolutely loving this team right now!
Bryan Little alluded to the same yesterday. :D
Laine has vaulted himself into the Rocket Richard discussion.
Laine = bust. Let him walk.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on March 07, 2018, 11:40:54 AM
Lundqvist is Swedish.
Patrik is just unreal right now. I?m at a point where I?m a bit surprised when he doesn?t score when he shoots ;D Just absolutely loving this team right now!
A couple of beers and they all sound alike ;) . Boort boort boort...
Fellow Scandanavian...
Quote from: theaardvark on March 07, 2018, 02:09:05 PM
A couple of beers and they all sound alike ;) . Boort boort boort...
Fellow Scandanavian...
Actually, Finns are technically not Scandinavian.
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 07, 2018, 02:16:40 PM
Actually, Finns are technically not Scandinavian.
Ha, true! You'd technically have to use 'Nordic'.
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 07, 2018, 02:16:40 PM
Actually, Finns are technically not Scandinavian.
Debateable.. I'm of the group that considers Finland and Iceland part of Scandanavia. I grew up in Thunder Bay, the city with the second largest Finnish population in the world...
Oxford Dictionary:
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/Scandinavia
Scandinavia
proper noun
1 A large peninsula in north-western Europe, occupied by Norway and Sweden. It is bounded by the Arctic Ocean on the north, the Atlantic Ocean on the west, and the Baltic Sea on the south and the east.
1.1 A cultural region consisting of the countries of Norway, Sweden, and Denmark and sometimes also of Iceland, Finland, and the Faroe Islands.
I was mostly busting your balls with that one, lol. I consider them "Scandinavian" as well but I've heard the point made that it's mostly about language, which you yourself brought up ("boort boort boort"). Finnish looks way different than Swedish, Danish, Norwegian and Icelandic.
The fact remains: Laine and Lundqvist are not fellow countrymen.
Agree that Little's contract is one that probably will haunt Chevy or he moves it ........ as there needs to be some big $$ available for the .....
likes of Laine, Morrissey, Trouba to name a few. Kulikov, though he has helped solidify the blueline, is overpaid in my view & may need to be moved.
If Scheif is out a few weeks ........ why not try Roslovic at center. Wheels is quite decent at center but Rosi was thought to be the center to bump Little down in the near future.
It's not like he doesn't dig hard for the puck as Scheif did & there is no denying he is a good playmaker.
Suggestion: Connor Roslovic & Wheels ..... Stats line remains together, Little & Perrault get Armia while the 4th is whatever to be juggled when Lowry & Tanev return.
According to the NHL's social media dept., no other player has scored more goals over the last two seasons than Patrik Laine.
From Dreger: Expect official update on Mark Scheifele tomorrow. Doubtful vs Devils, but early indication is the injury isn't serious.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 07, 2018, 10:53:56 PM
From Dreger: Expect official update on Mark Scheifele tomorrow. Doubtful vs Devils, but early indication is the injury isn't serious.
That was yesterday too, so we will hopefully be getting an update soon.
Updates from Ken Wiebe:
- Enstrom and Tanev should be back in the lineup tonight
- Myers and Perreault both sat out of morning skate
- Trouba and Matthias back in regular jerseys, Lowry in non-contact jersey
- Scheifele listed as day-to-day, no structural damage, injury not related to previous one where he missed 16 games
- Mason injured (lower body), Hutchinson recalled
- Hellebuyck gets the start vs. the Devils
- Line combinations TBD
What a nightmare season for Mason.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 08, 2018, 04:55:52 PM
What a nightmare season for Mason.
Just one issue after the other.
At least Helle got a game off.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 08, 2018, 04:49:23 PM
Updates from Ken Wiebe:
- Mason injured (lower body), Hutchinson recalled
You've got to be kidding me.
Michael Hutchinson?s flight to NYC was delayed. As a result, the #NHLJets have signed goalie Zane Kalemba to a PTO. Kalemba played with captain Blake Wheeler with the Green Bay Gamblers of the USHL in 04-05.
QuoteUpdates from Ken Wiebe:
- Mason injured (lower body), Hutchinson recalled
Whoever is sticking pins in the Steve Mason voodoo doll can stop anytime ! :D
I liked the way they played tonight. It looked like they took the high speed out of the game. It started fast but The Jets took control and held them off.
Good road win.
Jersey is a great team.
Way to beat ?em!
Laine pots another to get within one goal of Ovechkin in the goal scoring race, Hellebuyck makes franchise history with his 35th win of the season, and the Jets get another gritty road win.
They also halted Hall's point streak.
Best Zane Kalemba tweet...
Kevin'O' (olszewski)
@SportsKevinO
Zanekelemba is:
A-a spicy eggplant dish.
B-The capital city of a rarely visited African nation.
C-An embarrassing yoga pose.
D-Tonight's backup goaltender.
#popquiz #betterknowagoalie
Laine's price tag just keeps rising. I'll predict $9 million x 8 years.
I believe that was Hendricks first time starting on the 2nd line last night (with Wheeler and Connor) - thoughts on moving him up from the 4th line?
Quote from: Chris1982 on March 09, 2018, 02:00:03 PM
I believe that was Hendricks first time starting on the 2nd line last night (with Wheeler and Connor) - thoughts on moving him up from the 4th line?
Hendricks didn't actually play on the second line. That was just the players joking around in pre-game warm-ups. The "second" line was Wheeler, Connor and Little.
Third line was Copp, Roslovic and Perreault and fourth was Hendricks, Armia and Tanev.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 09, 2018, 03:02:31 PM
Hendricks didn't actually play on the second line. That was just the players joking around in pre-game warm-ups. The "second" line was Wheeler, Connor and Little.
Third line was Copp, Roslovic and Perreault and fourth was Hendricks, Armia and Tanev.
The first shift of the game had Wheeler and Hendricks on the same line from what I remember.
Didn?t realize NJ was that good of a team...they had some speed and put some good shots on Hellybuck...
Pesky Preds just keep on winning - can?t make up any ground on them.. >:(
Official pregame lineup even had Hendricks listed on the 2nd line
Quote from: Chris1982 on March 09, 2018, 03:10:29 PM
Official pregame lineup even had Hendricks listed on the 2nd line
Exactly, that's from the players joking around in pre-game warm-up. Maurice even addressed that in his post game presser.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 09, 2018, 03:11:58 PM
Exactly, that's from the players joking around in pre-game warm-up. Maurice even addressed that in his post game presser.
Interesting.... I was unable to watch the majority of the game last night. Strange how the players "joking" around are able to make a fake line-up post on the official Winnipeg Jets twitter page.
Quote from: Chris1982 on March 09, 2018, 03:15:46 PM
Interesting.... I was unable to watch the majority of the game last night. Strange how the players "joking" around are able to make a fake line-up post on the official Winnipeg Jets twitter page.
First of all that's not the official lineup...that's the "projected" lineup based on pre-game warm-ups. Second, check out the Jets official twitter account from 6:02PM last night, which clearly states the starting lineup as Little, Connor and Wheeler. Third, check out the players time on ice from last game and you will clearly see that Hendricks did not play on the second line.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 09, 2018, 03:18:46 PM
First of all that's not the official lineup...that's the "projected" lineup based on pre-game warm-ups. Second, check out the Jets official twitter account from 6:02PM last night, which clearly states the starting lineup as Little, Connor and Wheeler. Third, check out the players time on ice from last game and you will clearly see that Hendricks did not play on the second line.
Nah... dont feel like it. Could care less for your condescending demeanor and your over-analyzing the majority of the posts that I make.
Quote from: Chris1982 on March 09, 2018, 03:29:07 PM
Nah... dont feel like it. Could care less for your condescending demeanor and your over-analyzing the majority of the posts that I make.
lol okay you asked how Hendricks looked on the second line and I explained he didn't play on the second line. You disagreed, so I provided proof.
And here?s Maurice?s post game comments on the pre game lines:
Asked #NHLJets HC Paul Maurice if he was trying to keep media guessing with the line rushes during pre-game warm-up. ?I had nothing to do with that. That?s on the players.?
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 09, 2018, 03:35:48 PM
And here?s Maurice?s post game comments on the pre game lines:
Asked #NHLJets HC Paul Maurice if he was trying to keep media guessing with the line rushes during pre-game warm-up. ?I had nothing to do with that. That?s on the players.?
Ha. You can tell Paul Maurice is having fun this season.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 09, 2018, 01:31:53 PM
Laine's price tag just keeps rising. I'll predict $9 million x 8 years.
What's crazy is Laine isn't even 20... He's only going to get better. :o
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on March 09, 2018, 03:46:57 PM
Ha. You can tell Paul Maurice is having fun this season.
Winning is fun. ;D
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 09, 2018, 01:31:53 PM
Laine's price tag just keeps rising. I'll predict $9 million x 8 years.
9 is probably the floor of what it's going to take.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 09, 2018, 01:09:27 PM
Laine pots another to get within one goal of Ovechkin in the goal scoring race, Hellebuyck makes franchise history with his 35th win of the season, and the Jets get another gritty road win.
They also halted Hall's point streak.
And Ovi didn't score last night (They played a late game last night), so Laine remains within one. Both teams have played 67 games. The race is wide open.
Quote from: Jesse on March 09, 2018, 04:07:47 PM
9 is probably the floor of what it's going to take.
Ya, my hope is that he maybe gives us a bit of a discount because he loves it here, and also looking at Stamkos as a comparable. But the argument could be made that Laine is already better than Stamkos. I think Auston Mathews new contract will impact Laine's as well.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on March 09, 2018, 03:46:57 PM
Ha. You can tell Paul Maurice is having fun this season.
Yep, he's got a totally different demeanour this season during his pressers and interviews.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 09, 2018, 04:12:57 PM
Ya, my hope is that he maybe gives us a bit of a discount because he loves it here, and also looking at Stamkos as a comparable. But the argument could be made that Laine is already better than Stamkos. I think Auston Mathews new contract will impact Laine's as well.
We all have that hope. But we have a lot of young, dynamic players.
I just hope we make the most of it this year, because I don't know how long we're keeping what we have now together.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 09, 2018, 04:12:57 PM
Ya, my hope is that he maybe gives us a bit of a discount because he loves it here, and also looking at Stamkos as a comparable. But the argument could be made that Laine is already better than Stamkos. I think Auston Mathews new contract will impact Laine's as well.
it is going to be biiiig...McDavid was 12.5million avg for 8 years - that was done last year...Laine will be close to that when it's time for renewal.
Quote from: Jesse on March 09, 2018, 04:20:38 PM
We all have that hope. But we have a lot of young, dynamic players.
I just hope we make the most of it this year, because I don't know how long we're keeping what we have now together.
I think one or two of Buff, Perreault or Wheeler will need to go. A lot depends on whether Trouba re-signs as well. Laine, Helle and Morrisey are also due for big contract raises...I think a couple will need to be bridged.
Quote from: The Zipp on March 09, 2018, 04:23:50 PM
it is going to be biiiig...McDavid was 12.5million avg for 8 years - that was done last year...Laine will be close to that when it's time for renewal.
McDavid is a centre so I think that adds value to him, and I also don't think Laine is quite in McDavid's tier. I think the floor for Laine is $8.5 mill and the highest is $10 million.
Also, remember he is on a hot streak right now. This pace won't continue forever.
Kulikov is out for the game tomorrow vs Flyers...
Noon start...I predict a loss for some reason.
Quote from: The Zipp on March 09, 2018, 06:10:55 PM
Kulikov is out for the game tomorrow vs Flyers...
Noon start...I predict a loss for some reason.
I am wondering if the Flyers are gonna give the start to Mrazek.... he has been brutal in his last 4 starts allowing 18 goals.
Quote from: The Zipp on March 09, 2018, 06:10:55 PM
Kulikov is out for the game tomorrow vs Flyers...
Noon start...I predict a loss for some reason.
Its gotta be worth noting this will be the Flyers 3rd game in 3 and 1/2 days!
They could be beaten up and tired. Jets had a better break heading in.
I think we win comfortably 5-1 ish.
Teams supply a game roster, the starting 6 players are identified by the Visitors & the Home team gets to decide by that ID of the starting 6 who they want to counter with.
After that initial puck drop, projected lines & pairings can be as true to form or as offset as the coach wants.
Dozed for a portion of the 2nd period ........ so missed Kulikov's occurrence & the speculated reason for not continuing. Did it appear serious? Any word on what it might be?
Kulikov will not dress for the Saturday tilt.
HellB was certainly the answer to why the Jets won that battle. I was impressed how the Devils took the game to our fellas for most of the game.
PM already announced that HellB is in the net vs the Flyers & that is an excellent choice.
Sounds like Hutch will start one of Washington or Preds games. I'd probably start Hutch versus Washington as I want Helle playing vs. the Preds.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 09, 2018, 09:20:28 PM
Sounds like Hutch will start one of Washington or Preds games. I'd probably start Hutch versus Washington as I want Helle playing vs. the Preds.
Yes - that's probably the plan I would guess.
Mr. Fragile, Enstrom is out with a lower body injury
40 for Laine!
Laine gets 10 mil for 8.
Twas a goalies game ......... both shone bright
PM certainly used the blender today ...... Little is going to think of that terrific chance & cuss a bit. The Lion is tied with his idol Ovie at 40.
#NHLJets HC Paul Maurice said G Steve Mason had a scope done to his knee and will be out for 2-3 weeks. D Dmitry Kulikov )upper body) is back in Winnipeg for further evaluation. Jets should know more tomorrow about how long he could be out of action
#NHLJets D Toby Enstrom is improving and might play vs #Preds C Mark Scheifele is progressing but he?s been ruled out for the rest of this road trip. Jacob Trouba remains an option for when Jets return home, but timetable for that return is still up in the air a bit
Hellybuck is starting tonight...roll with him again tomorrow or give Hutch a shot vs the Preds?? Would be a big confidence boost to him if he could get a win in Nashville for the team.
Quote from: The Zipp on March 12, 2018, 06:51:48 PM
Hellybuck is starting tonight...roll with him again tomorrow or give Hutch a shot vs the Preds?? Would be a big confidence boost to him if he could get a win in Nashville for the team.
That surprises me. I thought they?d go Hutch tonight and Helle tomorrow.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 12, 2018, 06:59:53 PM
That surprises me. I thought they?d go Hutch tonight and Helle tomorrow.
Yeah, I was expecting the same. Not sure what to think about this.
In other news, Laine got the NHL's first star of the week!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 12, 2018, 07:12:46 PM
Yeah, I was expecting the same. Not sure what to think about this.
In other news, Laine got the NHL's first star of the week!
Maybe Helle plays both games??
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 12, 2018, 07:38:10 PM
Maybe Helle plays both games??
And Hutchinson plays Friday at home vs. the Hawks...?
Crazy:
#NHLJets and #FlaPanthers are as popular as Metallica or Guns N' Roses in #Finland : All tickets for two #NHL games in November in Helsinki were sold or booked in 5 minutes. #NHL
OVI...gotta love the guy. Burning the Jets tonight..
Not great defence - poor Helly made a bunch of saves but not much help for him.
Hope that PM can instill some oomph effort from the gang for the 3rd & we maybe steal this one.
Guaranteed one road point...
Hate the way we play in OT - apart from helly. Penalty didn?t help.
Buff was gassed. It seemed like he was on the entire time during OT. Hate to lose the second point after all Hellebuyck did to keep the team alive. How awesome would a Stanley Cup final be between these two teams?
Quote from: The Zipp on March 13, 2018, 12:53:35 AM
Hate the way we play in OT - apart from helly. Penalty didn?t help.
Fortunately, there's not 3-on-3 come playoff time.
Just glad they got the point when you consider how banged up this roster is at present. Oh, and Laine getting another goal.
Helly gave the boys the best chance to win tonight. Those darn breakaways...
I'm happy for Laine... but I'm growing increasingly concerned that our goal production isn't coming from anywhere else. If Laine were to "rest" for a game, would we be able to score? Am I being paranoid?
Quote from: BomberPride on March 13, 2018, 11:37:37 AM
Helly gave the boys the best chance to win tonight. Those darn breakaways...
I'm happy for Laine... but I'm growing increasingly concerned that our goal production isn't coming from anywhere else. If Laine were to "rest" for a game, would we be able to score? Am I being paranoid?
Agree, the rest of the team is in a major scoring drought. Good thing is that they still have lots of time to get going for the playoffs.
Wheeler and Little look seriously out of sorts. The bottom 6 can't find the net but they seem to getting their chances. Injuries are really hurting this team. I'm sure the offense will improve drastically once the roster gets healthy.
Sounds like Hutchinson will get the start in Nashville tonight.
Tonight will be a tough game for the Jets. I wouldn?t be surprised if we lose by more than two goals. Nashville is a challenging place to play. They have a very fired up crowd, the Preds are on a tear, Jets are a bit beat up and on the second night of B2B games. Would be awesome if they could steal this one.
Roslovic is playing centre tonight.
Stastny just left during warm ups. Sounds like there may be an injury.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 13, 2018, 10:39:39 PM
Stastny just left during warm ups. Sounds like there may be an injury.
Hopefully precautionary or an equipment issue... Man, injuries are piling up at exactly the wrong time.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on March 13, 2018, 10:40:58 PM
Hopefully precautionary or an equipment issue... Man, injuries are piling up at exactly the wrong time.
Sure hope it?s nothing...
On TSN pre-game show they?re speculating Kulikov?s injury is related to back injury he suffered last year with Buffalo.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on March 13, 2018, 10:40:58 PM
Hopefully precautionary or an equipment issue... Man, injuries are piling up at exactly the wrong time.
This aint the wrong time.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 13, 2018, 10:49:03 PM
This aint the wrong time.
Now is fine. We need everyone healthy for the playoffs.
From Twitter: @NHLJets Paul Stastny spent the first 5 mins of warm up talking to training staff, looked to be in discomfort. He left pre game warm up. #NHLJets
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 13, 2018, 10:50:02 PM
Now is fine. We need everyone healthy for the playoffs.
Yup
They will come back in time to get up to game speed and be pretty fresh. Trouba will make a big difference and so will Lowry.
#NHLJets C Paul Stastny is a late scratch with what looks like a LBI. Left the warm-up early and will be replaced by Shawn Matthias. Now we know why he was activated off IR. Guessing Jack Roslovic gets bumped up the lineup, Matthias plays on the fourth. Will see soon.
I don?t like our chances tonight.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 13, 2018, 10:49:03 PM
This aint the wrong time.
I disagree. With only 13 games left, I want to see the full line up getting back in sync with each other before playoffs start. And if the nagging injuries turn into something bigger, then that spells trouble for the playoffs. I?m hoping some of these guys are being held out for precautionary reasons. It would be interesting to know if some of them would be in the line up if this was a playoff game.
Apparently Wheeler is playing centre tonight in between Laine and Ehlers.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on March 13, 2018, 11:04:06 PM
I disagree. With only 13 games left, I want to see the full line up getting back in sync with each other before playoffs start. And if the nagging injuries turn into something bigger, then that spells trouble for the playoffs. I?m hoping some of these guys are being held out for precautionary reasons. It would be interesting to know if some of them would be in the line up if this was a playoff game.
I?d bet most of them would be playing if these were playoff games.
Off to a great start again by Little. And PK being PK ::)
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on March 13, 2018, 11:11:02 PM
Off to a great start again by Little. And PK being PK ::)
That wasn?t a penalty. Subban heald his stick.
Hutchinson with a few great saves so far.
The Predators are skating circles around the Jets. This could get ugly.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 13, 2018, 11:18:56 PM
Hutchinson with a few great saves so far.
The Predators are skating circles around the Jets. This could get ugly.
Yep Jets look overmatched here early.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 13, 2018, 11:13:41 PM
That wasn?t a penalty. Subban heald his stick.
Exactly. That was all PK.
Shots through 6 mins are 13-0 in favour of the Preds.
Wow.
Embarrassing
Buffy???
3-0. Two short handed goals for Preds on same penalty. This is getting ugly.
I have never seen two shorties scored like that on the same penalty
Helle is coming in.
Hutchy with the short leash
Well, this got ugly fast. The Jets look absolutely lost. I hope we escape without anymore injuries and stop the goals against at some point...
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on March 13, 2018, 11:36:41 PM
Well, this got ugly fast. The Jets look absolutely lost. I hope we escape without anymore injuries and stop the goals against at some point...
The goalie change calmed things down a bit.
From Ken Wiebe: I've seen the video of #NHLJets G Michael Hutchinson dropping an F-you - and believe that's directed at having to come out of the game. Jets just announce via Twitter that Hutchinson left the game with an upper-body injury. Will obviously follow up post-game
If there?s a bright side, at least the Stars and Wild are losing as of right now as well... Fingers crossed it stays that way.
They listed off the Jets current injuries and it?s literally half the team! :o
Connor gets the Jets on the board with a PPG. Laine keeps his point streak alive with an assist.
According to most recent TSN Injury report:
Number of players on list:
Sharks - 2
Stars - 2
Ducks - 1
Wild - 1
Kings - 0
Preds - 0
Jets - 6 (Hendricks wasn't on the list so effectively it's 7)
Quote from: JMT21 on March 14, 2018, 11:15:46 AM
According to most recent TSN Injury report:
Number of players on list:
Sharks - 2
Stars - 2
Ducks - 1
Wild - 1
Kings - 0
Preds - 0
Jets - 6 (Hendricks wasn't on the list so effectively it's 7)
Was Stastny on the list? I wouldn't mind seeing that list because I think it's longer than 6. Hutch was being evaluated for a concussion last night too...
Kulikov is going for a second opinion on his injury. That's usually not a good sign. Speculation is that it's his back again. My guess is that could end his season.
So, Hellebuyck got a win last night, gave up 0 goals while we got 1...
Is this the end for Hutch? I'm thinking its time for the Hellebuyck /Comrie show...
I don't think Hutch's performance on the ice, or as he went off, is going to sit too well with anyone. Vincent may be called upon to straighten him back out.
Quote from: theaardvark on March 14, 2018, 02:10:10 PM
So, Hellebuyck got a win last night, gave up 0 goals while we got 1...
Is this the end for Hutch? I'm thinking its time for the Hellebuyck /Comrie show...
I don't think Hutch's performance on the ice, or as he went off, is going to sit too well with anyone. Vincent may be called upon to straighten him back out.
That's not how it works.
I'm amazed at what I've read regarding Hutchinson since he was pulled. I really don't understand some of the harsh criticism directed at him. Did anyone watch the first 10 or so minutes of that game last night? He was absolutely shelled and kept the team in the game until that dreaded power play (12-0 SOG at that point). The entire team fell apart during that power play and there's plenty of blame to be spread around for those two shorties allowed only 34 seconds apart.
Thinking Comrie is the answer at backup at this point is crazy talk.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 14, 2018, 02:43:41 PM
That's not how it works.
I'm amazed at what I've read regarding Hutchinson since he was pulled. I really don't understand some of the harsh criticism directed at him. Did anyone watch the first 10 or so minutes of that game last night? He was absolutely shelled and kept the team in the game until that dreaded power play (12-0 SOG at that point). The entire team fell apart during that power play and there's plenty of blame to be spread around for those two shorties allowed only 34 seconds apart.
Thinking Comrie is the answer at backup at this point is crazy talk.
We need Mason back asap.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 14, 2018, 02:45:54 PM
We need Mason back asap.
Won't be for a while. Comrie has been called up on an emergency basis.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 14, 2018, 05:25:28 PM
Won't be for a while. Comrie has been called up on an emergency basis.
I saw that. Wasn't Mason only out for 2-3 weeks, and that was already a week ago.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 14, 2018, 05:44:32 PM
I saw that. Wasn't Mason only out for 2-3 weeks, and that was already a week ago.
Still at least a week out, though. And with today being an off day for the Jets, there will be no updates until tomorrow on Hutchinson. With how much Hellebuyck has played, it doesn't appear he'll be getting a rest any time soon. That's troubling, IMO.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 14, 2018, 06:01:04 PM
Still at least a week out, though. And with today being an off day for the Jets, there will be no updates until tomorrow on Hutchinson. With how much Hellebuyck has played, it doesn't appear he'll be getting a rest any time soon. That's troubling, IMO.
It's not ideal to be playing the living crap out of your starter, but I gotta say that Hellebuyck has constantly risen to the occasion when called upon to play a zillion games in a row, a back-to-back, etc. If there's anyone who can handle it and dare I say thrive in it, it's him.
We have to hope that it eventually doesn't take its toll on him at the exact wrong time of the year, though. Hope is kinda all we have in that regard.
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 14, 2018, 07:08:26 PM
It's not ideal to be playing the living crap out of your starter, but I gotta say that Hellebuyck has constantly risen to the occasion when called upon to play a zillion games in a row, a back-to-back, etc. If there's anyone who can handle it and dare I say thrive in it, it's him.
We have to hope that it eventually doesn't take its toll on him at the exact wrong time of the year, though. Hope is kinda all we have in that regard.
I agree with this.
This aint ideal to have to play him this much. But hes also 24 and he needs to start taking on a work load and learning how to do it. If we expect to win a cup in the next few years hes going to need to be able to play alot. Its just the way it is. If we expect to make it thru any playoff run hes going to need to carry the load like any other teams starter does.
I hate our injury situation big time. But over all when i look at it its kinda good for the team as something to learn from.
Its not the best thing this year for sure.... but this will help our younger guys learn to expect these things and figure out ways to play thru them in years to come.
This team has growin up so much compaired to last year because not only have we drafted skilled players but they are also smart hockey players. Good hockey IQ.
All the skill in the world only gets you so far--- See the Oilers over the last 8 years or so.
Smart teams with smart hockey players win you Cups. Smart players learn what it takes to play 80+ games then have to play thru a super hard playoff run.
Stastny is playing tonight. Trouba is an option. Lowry and Scheifele still not ready but practiced in regular jerseys today.
Hutch is out with another concussion. Hendricks out 6-8 weeks.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 15, 2018, 03:23:20 PM
Stastny is playing tonight. Trouba is an option. Lowry and Scheifele still not ready but practiced in regular jerseys today.
Hutch is out with another concussion. Hendricks out 6-8 weeks.
I heard Scheifele might be ready for the weekend, so that's good news. I've been worried about the lack of updates to this point.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 15, 2018, 03:23:20 PM
Stastny is playing tonight. Trouba is an option. Lowry and Scheifele still not ready but practiced in regular jerseys today.
Hutch is out with another concussion. Hendricks out 6-8 weeks.
That's interesting, because Maurice said on Tuesday that it wasn't a concussion but was upper body. Oh well. Maybe symptoms have appeared later on...
Hopefully the Jets kick some butt tonight.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on March 15, 2018, 03:49:24 PM
That's interesting, because Maurice said on Tuesday that it wasn't a concussion but was upper body. Oh well. Maybe symptoms have appeared later on...
Hopefully the Jets kick some butt tonight.
Yep I heard that too. I guess the symptoms changed after the game.
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#NHLJets HC Paul Maurice on his decision whether Jacob Trouba plays tonight: "Well if my car doesn't blow up when I start it, I'll take that as a positive. He's very interested in playing tonight." #wfp
Maurice also says he expects Comrie to start 3 games down the stretch with Mason and Hutch out.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 15, 2018, 03:23:20 PM
Stastny is playing tonight. Trouba is an option. Lowry and Scheifele still not ready but practiced in regular jerseys today.
Hutch is out with another concussion. Hendricks out 6-8 weeks.
Good news regarding Stastny and it'd be great to get Trouba on the back end.
Unfortunate news regarding Hutchinson and Hendricks. I'm absolutely amazed (in a bad way) how many injuries this team has had to deal with recently.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 15, 2018, 04:04:51 PM
Maurice also says he expects Comrie to start 3 games down the stretch with Mason and Hutch out.
Anaheim, Chicago and Montreal is my guess
http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/22745770/nhl-why-winnipeg-jets-envy-30-other-teams
Good read
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 15, 2018, 05:00:20 PM
http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/22745770/nhl-why-winnipeg-jets-envy-30-other-teams
Good read
Great read. Thanks for sharing!
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 15, 2018, 05:00:20 PM
http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/22745770/nhl-why-winnipeg-jets-envy-30-other-teams
Good read
A very good read. Saw this posted on FB earlier today and I was skeptical at first considering the source. But it's very articulate and thorough write-up on this team with some great comments from players and management.
It's been a tough road and has required a lot of patience, but we're starting to see the rewards now.
And to think this team, going into tonight's game (game #17), has lost 231 man-games due to injury and is still within the league's top 5 best teams... It's incredible. Getting healthy going into the home stretch and then into playoffs should have Jets fans pretty excited.
Stats back in the lineup & no doubt with Ehlers & Laine, is huge ........ he will certainly get the ice time if his aggravated body part holds up.
Wonder what blender result PM has in store ...... would sure like to watch Roslovic center Armia & Perrault for the game.
There was a brief stretch where the sickbay was empty. We're paying for that now....
I love that the team is erring on the side of caution right now, holding Trouba out a few more days might be the best thing for him. He may not think so, but skipping tonight's game gets him a rest until Sunday...
Quote from: Jockitch on March 15, 2018, 08:14:00 PM
Stats back in the lineup & no doubt with Ehlers & Laine, is huge ........ he will certainly get the ice time if his aggravated body part holds up.
Wonder what blender result PM has in store ...... would sure like to watch Roslovic center Armia & Perrault for the game.
Yes, it'd sure be nice if Roslovic could develop into a centre but it seems the Jets management see him more as a winger, long-term.
#NHLJets have officially activated D Jacob Trouba off injured reserve
What a wild first period last night. Sketchy start but after the Jets killed off that penalty, they put on a clinic.
Trouba back in the lineup was massive, Little had his best game in ages, and the offense was spread around very nicely.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 16, 2018, 12:05:40 PM
What a wild first period last night. Sketchy start but after the Jets killed off that penalty, they put on a clinic.
Trouba back in the lineup was massive, Little had his best game in ages, and the offense was spread around very nicely.
Yes I was glad to see Little have a good game because his contract has been worrying me lately.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 16, 2018, 12:09:50 PM
Yes I was glad to see Little have a good game because his contract has been worrying me lately.
That extension kicking in after this season is looking pretty bad at the moment.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 16, 2018, 12:12:02 PM
That extension kicking in after this season is looking pretty bad at the moment.
I know...6 more years. When I look at the cap situation and the young guys who will be getting raises soon, that contract could make it very difficult to re-sign Wheeler. The good thing about Little's contract is that the NMC is only foe the first 2 years. After that it's a 14 team no-trade list.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 16, 2018, 12:18:06 PM
I know...6 more years. When I look at the cap situation and the young guys who will be getting raises soon, that contract could make it very difficult to re-sign Wheeler. The good thing about Little's contract is that the NMC is only foe the first 2 years. After that it's a 14 team no-trade list.
Unless Wheeler's willing to take a discount. Who knows but one thing is for sure: Cheveldayoff has his work cut out in the next few years.
I just hope last night's game gets Little back on track. He needs to finish strong and carry that momentum into the playoffs. Come to think of it, I hope the team as whole uses last night's win to get back on track, at least offensively.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 16, 2018, 12:30:28 PM
Unless Wheeler's willing to take a discount. Who knows but one thing is for sure: Cheveldayoff has his work cut out in the next few years.
I just hope last night's game gets Little back on track. He needs to finish strong and carry that momentum into the playoffs. Come to think of it, I hope the team as whole uses last night's win to get back on track, at least offensively.
At Wheeler's age, I'm thinking he will cost at minimum 4 years x $7 million. Without moving some significant salaries, I don't see how that fits under the cap, even with expiring salaries like Enstrom, Mason etc.
https://www.bardown.com/patrik-laine-s-stick-habits-would-be-incredibly-expensive-for-a-regular-person-1.1029514
Yikes :o
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 16, 2018, 08:31:39 PM
https://www.bardown.com/patrik-laine-s-stick-habits-would-be-incredibly-expensive-for-a-regular-person-1.1029514
Yikes :o
Pretty sure he doesn't pay for them, or the Jets. Manufacturers are happy to pony up $4k worth of sticks a game to have the best player use their product...
Quote from: theaardvark on March 16, 2018, 09:55:27 PM
Pretty sure he doesn't pay for them, or the Jets. Manufacturers are happy to pony up $4k worth of sticks a game to have the best player use their product...
Ya i dont think they do.
But they tape the stick themselves ... so thats alota sticks
Kulikov is going to have back surgery. Out for 8 weeks... Darn it!
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on March 17, 2018, 04:31:44 PM
Kulikov is going to have back surgery. Out for 8 weeks... Darn it!
So what?s that...second or third round of the playoffs? That?s a big loss.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 17, 2018, 04:38:46 PM
So what?s that...second or third round of the playoffs? That?s a big loss.
Massive, IMO. He'd been darn good for the majority of the season thus far. That puts a pretty big dent in the depth of the blue line, which is a bit worrisome.
Injuries... Ugh. >:(
Maurice also said the 8 weeks is not when he can be back on the ice but rather when he enters the next stage of his recovery. Unless a miracle happens, he?s done for the season it seems. Big loss for the team.
Yes, Kulikov is a big loss, but we have depth on the blue line, and added Morrow... Chiarot and Poolman have really stepped up.
Trouba/Morrisey
Buff/Toby
Myers/Chiarot
Or
Trouba/Morrisey
Buff/Chiarot
Myers/Enstrom (like Doug Brown and Jerome Heywood)
is a pretty darned good defense corps
With Morrow/Poolman in the pressbox...
I think we'll be just fine...
The Stastny and Morrow additions turned out not to be rental luxuries, but necessities.
Quote from: theaardvark on March 17, 2018, 08:12:59 PM
Yes, Kulikov is a big loss, but we have depth on the blue line, and added Morrow... Chiarot and Poolman have really stepped up.
Trouba/Morrisey
Buff/Toby
Myers/Chiarot
Or
Trouba/Morrisey
Buff/Chiarot
Myers/Enstrom (like Doug Brown and Jerome Heywood)
is a pretty darned good defense corps
With Morrow/Poolman in the pressbox...
I think we'll be just fine...
Enstrom will last one game in the playoffs, if he even makes it there healthy.
It's nice to have Morrow, but he's no Kulikov.
this morning on 1290, it was mentioned that during Jet's practise, Lowry was at center with Tanev & Roslovic ......... Scheif was not a steady line participant.
Quote from: Jockitch on March 17, 2018, 10:50:07 PM
this morning on 1290, it was mentioned that during Jet's practise, Lowry was at center with Tanev & Roslovic ......... Scheif was not a steady line participant.
Scheifele centred a fifth line at practice this morning.
after the morning skate ........ PM stated, at the Presser that Scheif & Lowry are Both in tonight's lineup ........ YAHOOS !!
Quote from: Jockitch on March 18, 2018, 04:56:51 PM
after the morning skate ........ PM stated, at the Presser that Scheif & Lowry are Both in tonight's lineup ........ YAHOOS !!
Enstrom is also a game time decision. Roslovic is out, Tanev is in. I hope Laine continues his streak of lighting up the Stars! Big 2 points tonight as the wild are nipping at the Jets? heels.
Great having those guys back...I am starting to fear injuries more than losses at this point. If we get a a few wins in a row here at home those fears will even get stronger.
Realistically I don?t think we are going to catch Nashville for first so second is prob the best we can do - looking like a matchup with the Wild is going to happen. That will be a hard fought series with the Wild having the edge in recent playoff experience...
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on March 18, 2018, 05:20:24 PM
Enstrom is also a game time decision. Roslovic is out, Tanev is in. I hope Laine continues his streak of lighting up the Stars! Big 2 points tonight as the wild are nipping at the Jets? heels.
I?m going to the game tonight!!
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on March 18, 2018, 05:20:24 PM
Enstrom is also a game time decision. Roslovic is out, Tanev is in. I hope Laine continues his streak of lighting up the Stars! Big 2 points tonight as the wild are nipping at the Jets? heels.
What happened?
It'll be great getting Scheifele and Lowry back today. Enstrom back would be nice, too.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 18, 2018, 08:15:59 PM
What happened?
It'll be great getting Scheifele and Lowry back today. Enstrom back would be nice, too.
Guys are getting healthy. Tanev is in the lineup, and Little is playing on the 3rd line as RW.
Looks like a great chance for 2nd!!
http://www.playoffstatus.com/nhl/jetsstandings.html (http://www.playoffstatus.com/nhl/jetsstandings.html)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 18, 2018, 08:15:59 PM
What happened?
It'll be great getting Scheifele and Lowry back today. Enstrom back would be nice, too.
Maurice favoured Tanev?s PK ability over Roslovic staying in. Wondering if he expects the physicality to be higher tonight too.
I?m feeling a bit nervous about this one but hopefully Laser Laine puts that feeling to rest quickly ;D
Dallas is certainly giving the Jets a game ........ HellB is the man so far.
Little's chance is about the only good effort by a Jet in the past 12 minutes or so.
Laser Laine 8)
I sure would love to have Statsny sign with the Jets next season, but I can?t see that happening with the cost that would take. Would he take a one year deal I wonder?
Another win...2 goals for Laine. Trouba out - guessing concussion
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on March 18, 2018, 11:50:33 PM
Laser Laine 8)
I sure would love to have Statsny sign with the Jets next season, but I can?t see that happening with the cost that would take. Would he take a one year deal I wonder?
From Jeff Hamilton:
It seemed unrealistic weeks ago but the Jets need to be thinking about the future with Paul Stastny. Patrik Laine is going to want and deserves a strong centreman and the chemistry is obvious.
Quote from: The Zipp on March 19, 2018, 02:00:08 AM
From Jeff Hamilton:
It seemed unrealistic weeks ago but the Jets need to be thinking about the future with Paul Stastny. Patrik Laine is going to want and deserves a strong centreman and the chemistry is obvious.
Little?s contract is looking terrible right now. Could prevent us from re-signing Wheeler and/or Stastny.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 19, 2018, 02:02:04 AM
Little?s contract is looking terrible right now. Could prevent us from re-signing Wheeler and/or Stastny.
No lol
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 19, 2018, 08:38:00 AM
No lol
lol yes. Look at all the guys on ELCs and bridge deals who also need to be paid significant raises in the next 1-2 years.
Quote from: The Zipp on March 19, 2018, 01:13:12 AM
Another win...2 goals for Laine. Trouba out - guessing concussion
Gotta be. That was helmet to helmet with Benn early in the third period. Trouba looked drunk after it. :-[
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 19, 2018, 10:13:02 AM
lol yes. Look at all the guys on ELCs and bridge deals who also need to be paid significant raises in the next 1-2 years.
He's only making about $600K more next season compared to this one. Keep in mind Matthias, Enstrom, and Hutchinson are all coming off the books, which is over $9M in salaries.
He hasn't a good season but saying his extension is terrible is definitely an over-exaggeration.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 19, 2018, 12:12:36 PM
Gotta be. That was helmet to helmet with Benn early in the third period. Trouba looked drunk after it. :-[
He's only making about $600K more next season compared to this one. Keep in mind Matthias, Enstrom, and Hutchinson are all coming off the books, which is over $9M in salaries.
He hasn't a good season but saying his extension is terrible is definitely an over-exaggeration.
Do the math. Not everyone can stay. Trouba, Helle, Ehlers (still on his ELC this year), Laine, Connor, Morrissey are all due huge raises. That $9 million might cover Laine?s salary. Crunch the numbers and you will see Chevy has some very difficult decisions to make in the next couple years.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 19, 2018, 01:06:50 PM
Do the math. Not everyone can stay. Trouba, Helle, Ehlers (still on his ELC this year), Laine, Connor, Morrissey are all due huge raises. That $9 million might cover Laine?s salary. Crunch the numbers and you will see Chevy has some very difficult decisions to make in the next couple years.
I don't disagree there. However, I do disagree with your assertion Little's contract extension is terrible.
Of course not everyone can stay. That's just the nature of today's NHL, though. No team is immune to that.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 19, 2018, 01:06:50 PM
Do the math. Not everyone can stay. Trouba, Helle, Ehlers (still on his ELC this year), Laine, Connor, Morrissey are all due huge raises. That $9 million might cover Laine?s salary. Crunch the numbers and you will see Chevy has some very difficult decisions to make in the next couple years.
I'm thinking that at the draft table, there is going to be a deal done for Trouba. Hopefully, his injury problems this year won't kill the return on him.
We are scary deep on D right now, and yes, we lose Enstrom soon, and Buff after that, and maybe even Myers, but our D corps is pretty solid and getting them ice time to develop is tough. Niku should be up here next year, should slide right into Enstrom's spot. Poolman has been solid, and I don't think Chiarot is coming out of the lineup again.
Remember when we had no L D? Now it looks like we have the opposite problem... if we can't extend or end up trading Trouba.
Buff, Morrissey
Myers, Kulikov
Poolman, Chiarot
Niku, Morrow, Nogier, Melchiori, Stanley...
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 19, 2018, 01:24:57 PM
I don't disagree there. However, I do disagree with your assertion Little's contract extension is terrible.
Of course not everyone can stay. That's just the nature of today's NHL, though. No team is immune to that.
Yes, and I don't think keeping Little was the right choice. You can only keep some players and Little was/is not a priority. I think that was a bad decision and will likely result in Chevy needing to trade or not re-sign a better, younger player. Little is already showing signs of regression, he has no chemistry with Laine/Ehlers and the contract hasn't even kicked in.
Every team has a contract or two they'd rather have a a slightly smaller figure. It happens. Little at just over $5mil is going to be a contract that is overpaying, not because he's a bad player, but because we have so many good players that we'd like instead.
If our roster was at the level our 2015 roster was, depth wise, I'm sure the Little contract would not be an issue. Because he'd be either our #1 or #2 C. Now, he played 3rd line wing last game, so that Copp can get some time at C.
Is a buyout an option? t makes the cap hit a lot smaller, and stretches it out over time... I don't think we miss Little as a player going forward, although he is a good guy in the locker-room, and well liked, we could probably save $3mil in cap space.
Addition by subtraction? If losing him means getting Roslovic to C, or developing Copp... or even signing Stasny...
Quote from: theaardvark on March 19, 2018, 03:54:14 PM
Every team has a contract or two they'd rather have a a slightly smaller figure. It happens. Little at just over $5mil is going to be a contract that is overpaying, not because he's a bad player, but because we have so many good players that we'd like instead.
If our roster was at the level our 2015 roster was, depth wise, I'm sure the Little contract would not be an issue. Because he'd be either our #1 or #2 C. Now, he played 3rd line wing last game, so that Copp can get some time at C.
Is a buyout an option? t makes the cap hit a lot smaller, and stretches it out over time... I don't think we miss Little as a player going forward, although he is a good guy in the locker-room, and well liked, we could probably save $3mil in cap space.
Addition by subtraction? If losing him means getting Roslovic to C, or developing Copp... or even signing Stasny...
The dollar figure of Little's contract is fine...it's probably market value. It doesn't mean it's a Chevy should have signed though because it likely means we can't keep a younger player who will be more productive. Little can be traded after year 2 of the contract, so that gives me some hope, but it is a contract I wish was never signed.
From the announcement I cringed at Little's new contract ........ however I did understand why Chevy may have paid a few extra $$'s & term.
Basically feeling that Little is still great at face offs, is capable of contributing 50 - 65 points. However my concern was his ability to compete as the 2nd line center.
Now for some reason he is at wing & Copp, terrific at checking, is now his center. Copp at 5 goals & real decent ice time most of the year ...... head scratcher
Agree that the Cap is Chevy's near future challenge. Plus if Seattle is on it's way & those draft rules kick in ...... YIKES !!
Per Ken Wiebe's Twitter feed:
"HC Paul Maurice says D Jacob Trouba still needs to see a few specialists. Trouba remains in concussion protocol, though he ?came in feeling good? on Monday"
"HC Paul Maurice said D Dmitry Kulikov decided against having back surgery (after a final consultation with a doctor) and will receive other treatment for his back instead. The next update on his status will come after four weeks"
Interesting development on Kulikov.
Very interesting on Kulikov.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 19, 2018, 04:06:12 PM
The dollar figure of Little's contract is fine...it's probably market value. It doesn't mean it's a Chevy should have signed though because it likely means we can't keep a younger player who will be more productive. Little can be traded after year 2 of the contract, so that gives me some hope, but it is a contract I wish was never signed.
Little is no move until the 2021, in which he has a 14 team no trade clause...
Quote from: theaardvark on March 19, 2018, 05:59:20 PM
Little is no move until the 2021, in which he has a 14 team no trade clause...
His NMC is only through the 2019-20 season. After that, it's a modified-NC.
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/bryan-little (https://www.capfriendly.com/players/bryan-little)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 19, 2018, 06:06:21 PM
His NMC is only through the 2019-20 season. After that, it's a modified-NC.
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/bryan-little (https://www.capfriendly.com/players/bryan-little)
Which is what I said...
Power Rankings:
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Good one going on in Minny tonight. Hopefully Kings will come in tired for tomorrow.
Quote from: The Zipp on March 20, 2018, 01:39:54 AM
Good one going on in Minny tonight. Hopefully Kings will come in tired for tomorrow.
Kings coming in on a win...
Quote from: The Zipp on March 20, 2018, 01:49:24 AM
Kings coming in on a win...
Tonight is going to be a tough game.... Quick has been pretty hot lately, he has a 1.75 GAA in his last 4 games, and the Kings are one of the few teams in the NHL with a better record on the road than at home.
I would like to think the Kings are starting Campbell tonight, but I cant find their starting lineup tonight anywhere.
Quote from: Chris1982 on March 20, 2018, 11:45:41 AM
Tonight is going to be a tough game.... Quick has been pretty hot lately, he has a 1.75 GAA in his last 4 games, and the Kings are one of the few teams in the NHL with a better record on the road than at home.
I would like to think the Kings are starting Campbell tonight, but I cant find their starting lineup tonight anywhere.
Probably too early still. Wiebe has Comrie and Campbell starting tonight in their respective nets, FWIW. Hellebuyck really needs a break.
This is going to be a very tough game for the home team tonight, even with the back-to-back factored in. The Kings are always a tough customer for the Jets.
I'm not sure "Hellebuyck really needs a break". His play hasn't suffered with him working so much. Sure, its nice to have a rest, but sitting him isn't a sure fire rest...
If he had been peppered all night last game, sure. If he'd had a physical game, again, sure. BUt our D has been pretty good at keeping him clean, and he's been doing a great job.
That said, I would like to get a look at Comrie, just in case. See if he can bring it... its not like the season is on the line in this game, and the Kings are decent team, so it will be a true test, not a cakewalk.
Quote from: theaardvark on March 20, 2018, 02:45:17 PM
I'm not sure "Hellebuyck really needs a break". His play hasn't suffered with him working so much. Sure, its nice to have a rest, but sitting him isn't a sure fire rest...
If he had been peppered all night last game, sure. If he'd had a physical game, again, sure. BUt our D has been pretty good at keeping him clean, and he's been doing a great job.
That said, I would like to get a look at Comrie, just in case. See if he can bring it... its not like the season is on the line in this game, and the Kings are decent team, so it will be a true test, not a cakewalk.
Play offs are two months long if you keep winning. You don't rest him because "he needs it", you rest him so he can stay fresh going into the play offs.
Quote from: Jesse on March 20, 2018, 02:47:42 PM
Play offs are two months long if you keep winning. You don't rest him because "he needs it", you rest him so he can stay fresh going into the play offs.
This
Quote from: Jesse on March 20, 2018, 02:47:42 PM
Play offs are two months long if you keep winning. You don't rest him because "he needs it", you rest him so he can stay fresh going into the play offs.
That's true, but that said, I'd really like to beat LA tonight and I don't have much faith in Comrie.
Hoping we can give him some confidence by not letting the Kings control the zone and put him under siege, and also by netting 4-5 of our own.
It sounds like Maurice already has determined every single game Comrie will play for the rest of the season, so this being a non-threat to our seeding makes sense even though they are a western team in the playoff hunt. Probably as good a time as ever to throw him to the wolves.
We play Ottawa and Montreal b2b near the end of the season and I'll say right now I have zero problem whatsoever giving both those games to Comrie. Our exact playoff spot might already be in the books by then.
Quote from: Jesse on March 20, 2018, 02:47:42 PM
Play offs are two months long if you keep winning. You don't rest him because "he needs it", you rest him so he can stay fresh going into the play offs.
Exactly right. Glad you understood what I meant.
Maurice went on record saying he wanted to rest Hellebuyck prior to Mason injuring his knee and then Hutchinson getting another concussion. You try to avoid running your starting goalie into the ground as the playoffs approach and giving him a game off here and there is ideal. This season is now his heaviest workload in his young career and there are still 10 regular seasons remaining.
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 20, 2018, 03:16:58 PM
That's true, but that said, I'd really like to beat LA tonight and I don't have much faith in Comrie.
I doubt many do. Unfortunately, injuries have taken their toll at netminder and this is what has to be done in order to keep Hellebuyck fresh for the playoffs.
This will be a good test for Comrie but the boys in front of him have to do their part to help him out tonight. It won't be an easy task.
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 20, 2018, 03:16:58 PM
That's true, but that said, I'd really like to beat LA tonight and I don't have much faith in Comrie.
Hoping we can give him some confidence by not letting the Kings control the zone and put him under siege, and also by netting 4-5 of our own.
It sounds like Maurice already has determined every single game Comrie will play for the rest of the season, so this being a non-threat to our seeding makes sense even though they are a western team in the playoff hunt. Probably as good a time as ever to throw him to the wolves.
We play Ottawa and Montreal b2b near the end of the season and I'll say right now I have zero problem whatsoever giving both those games to Comrie. Our exact playoff spot might already be in the books by then.
At this point, it doesn't matter at all. We are clearly not catching Nashville after the streak they've been on lately, so as long as we hold on to #2, we're golden. We're probably going to be resting more guys than Helle moving forward.
Quote from: Jesse on March 20, 2018, 03:35:53 PM
At this point, it doesn't matter at all. We are clearly not catching Nashville after the streak they've been on lately, so as long as we hold on to #2, we're golden. We're probably going to be resting more guys than Helle moving forward.
It matters if you hold irrational grudges and are still mad about losing to LA a few weeks ago ;)
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Quote from: blue_or_die on March 20, 2018, 03:44:41 PM
It matters if you hold irrational grudges and are still mad about losing to LA a few weeks ago ;)
LOL :D
Yeah, that was a crummy game to see the boys lose. Weren't the Kings coming off a back-to-back that night, too...? :-\
Anyway, some news on Bryan Little: https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/jets/maurice-has-full-confidence-in-little-477324843.html (https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/jets/maurice-has-full-confidence-in-little-477324843.html)
Sounds like he's pretty banged up at the moment. Here's hoping he heals up in time for the playoffs and can contribute positively.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 20, 2018, 03:54:56 PM
LOL :D
Yeah, that was a crummy game to see the boys lose. Weren't the Kings coming off a back-to-back that night, too...? :-\
Anyway, some news on Bryan Little: https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/jets/maurice-has-full-confidence-in-little-477324843.html (https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/jets/maurice-has-full-confidence-in-little-477324843.html)
Sounds like he's pretty banged up at the moment. Here's hoping he heals up in time for the playoffs and can contribute positively.
That would explain his terrible play recently, and would make me feel better about his contract.
Quote from: Jesse on March 20, 2018, 02:47:42 PM
Play offs are two months long if you keep winning. You don't rest him because "he needs it", you rest him so he can stay fresh going into the play offs.
"Fresh" and "rested" are relative. Goalies are not skating full out for 60 minutes, they get small amounts of furious action. And. sometimes, keeping focus by being in the game is as important as being "fresh" and "rested"...
Bucky seems to be thriving on lots of work. Some goalies do.
Like I said, coming of a shelling, or if he's banged up, definitely rest is a solid idea. But if he's feeling fine and wants to be in there, rest might be worse than playing.
Going into the playoffs, are you going to rest a hot goalie? Or are you going to keep him in the game so that he stays focused? Plus, in the playoffs, if you win in 4, you get some time off... and we will be winning in four every round ;)
The Athletic has an article ranking the NHL teams best at drafting. Here's the top 5 (Coyotes were last):
1. Ducks
2. Jets
3. Lightning
4. Canes
5. Panthers
Connor-Scheifele-Wheeler
Ehlers-Statsny-Laine
Perrrault-Copp-Little
Tanev-Lowry-Armia
Morrissey-Myers
Enstrom-Byfuglien
Morrow-Chiarot
Comrie
Hellebuyck
Feel it is unfortunate that Poolman & Roslovic are not in .......... really on the fence about Morrow
Thinking because Kings rep is to play a "heavy" game, PM sees that Tanev, with his tenacity to hit, is the right fit over Roslovic.
Little still on the wing ........ head scratcher. Crossing fingers that Comrie excels.
GO JETS GO
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 20, 2018, 05:17:04 PM
Connor-Scheifele-Wheeler
Ehlers-Statsny-Laine
Perrrault-Copp-Little
Tanev-Lowry-Armia
Morrissey-Myers
Enstrom-Byfuglien
Morrow-Chiarot
Comrie
Hellebuyck
starting 6 C, including an entire 3rd line of C...
Not sure I prefer Morrow over Poolman, but we will defer to the experts...
Quote from: theaardvark on March 20, 2018, 06:23:38 PM
starting 6 C, including an entire 3rd line of C...
Not sure I prefer Morrow over Poolman, but we will defer to the experts...
Perrrault is a winger not a C.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 20, 2018, 06:36:58 PM
Perrrault is a winger not a C.
He plays both, actually. And he's listed as such: https://www.capfriendly.com/players/mathieu-perreault (https://www.capfriendly.com/players/mathieu-perreault), https://www.nhl.com/player/mathieu-perreault-8473618 (https://www.nhl.com/player/mathieu-perreault-8473618)
His versatility is a huge plus.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 20, 2018, 06:40:37 PM
He plays both, actually. And he's listed as such: https://www.capfriendly.com/players/mathieu-perreault (https://www.capfriendly.com/players/mathieu-perreault), https://www.nhl.com/player/mathieu-perreault-8473618 (https://www.nhl.com/player/mathieu-perreault-8473618)
His versatility is a huge plus.
I'm pretty sure he hasn't played centre in at least a few years. He really struggles at centre.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 20, 2018, 06:47:54 PM
I'm pretty sure he hasn't played centre in at least a few years. He really struggles at centre.
How so? ???
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 20, 2018, 06:58:38 PM
How so? ???
Like he had trouble scoring points.
Don't quote me on this, but I believe Maurice has stated in the past that Perreault is a better fit at winger. I watch most Jets games and I can't recall the last game Perreault played at centre.
Turns out it is an injury that caused #NHLJets centre Bryan Little to move to the wing: ?There's been something bothering me,? Little told me this morning. ?But it's just faceoff related."
from Paul Friesen
Quote from: The Zipp on March 20, 2018, 07:12:10 PM
Turns out it is an injury that caused #NHLJets centre Bryan Little to move to the wing: ?There's been something bothering me,? Little told me this morning. ?But it's just faceoff related."
from Paul Friesen
Wrist, back??
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 20, 2018, 07:06:25 PM
Like he had trouble scoring points.
Don't quote me on this, but I believe Maurice has stated in the past that Perreault is a better fit at winger. I watch most Jets games and I can't recall the last game Perreault played at centre.
When did he have trouble scoring points at centre? His 2014-15 season, which was the last time he was deployed predominantly at C (IIRC), was a pretty productive one (0.66 PPG - his second best as a Jet).
I agree he's solid on the wing and a better fit there currently (even in spite of his current 13-game pointless streak) but I don't recall him ever struggling at centre. He's good in the FO circle and plays a pretty strong 200 ft. game. That's why his versatility is such an asset.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 20, 2018, 07:23:46 PM
When did he have trouble scoring points at centre? His 2014-15 season, which was the last time he was deployed predominantly at C (IIRC), was a pretty productive one (0.66 PPG - his second best as a Jet).
I agree he's solid on the wing and a better fit there currently (even in spite of his current 13-game pointless streak) but I don't recall him ever struggling at centre. He's good in the FO circle and plays a pretty strong 200 ft. game. That's why his versatility is such an asset.
I don't recall him playing centre for the Jets in a few years. Please tell me the last time he played centre for the Jets. I'd bet it's at most a handful of times as a Jet. Anyone can play centre...it's a matter of whether they are effective playing there.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 20, 2018, 07:29:17 PM
I don't recall him playing centre for the Jets in a few years. Please tell me the last time he played centre for the Jets. I'd bet it's at most a handful of times as a Jet. Anyone can play centre...it's a matter of whether they are effective playing there.
He was deployed at C in 32 of the 62 GP during the 2014-15 season:
(https://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/fLines/1415/WPG/)
12 of 71 GP in 2015-16:
(https://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/fLines/1516/WPG/)
12 of 65 GP last season:
(https://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/fLines/1617/WPG/)
This is the first season in which he hasn't been deployed at C:
(https://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/fLines/1718/WPG/)
Thanks for those graphs. A little more than I thought but still proves my point that the Jets feel he?s more effective as a winger. Do you have stats on his PPG as a centre vs winger? I?d bet it?s much higher as a winger.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 20, 2018, 06:40:37 PM
He plays both, actually. And he's listed as such: https://www.capfriendly.com/players/mathieu-perreault (https://www.capfriendly.com/players/mathieu-perreault), https://www.nhl.com/player/mathieu-perreault-8473618 (https://www.nhl.com/player/mathieu-perreault-8473618)
His versatility is a huge plus.
Ya i understand that but hes a natural winger. But i agree he can pretty much play anywhere.
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/jets-discuss-how-the-versatility-of-their-forwards-is-an-advantage~1351746
He was the Capitols last pick in the 2006 Draft ....... having played center in Jr.. I do remember him playing center for the Caps years ago.
TSN site shows Perrault on the Jet roster as C/LW, whereas Hockey DB.com still just shows as a center
The net of it all ...... he will play wherever PM sticks him. He has value but is a 3rd to 4th line hustler at best with PP stats as a winger.
BTW: that was a crazy great graph
Quote from: Jockitch on March 20, 2018, 09:17:48 PM
He was the Capitols last pick in the 2006 Draft ....... having played center in Jr.. I do remember him playing center for the Caps years ago.
TSN site shows Perrault on the Jet roster as C/LW, whereas Hockey DB.com still just shows as a center
The net of it all ...... he will play wherever PM sticks him. He has value but is a 3rd to 4th line hustler at best with PP stats as a winger.
BTW: that was a crazy great graph
Thought he was drafted by the Pens?
I remember not long ago when our concerns were LD, C and G...
Chevy, ya done good...
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 20, 2018, 07:53:20 PM
Thanks for those graphs. A little more than I thought but still proves my point that the Jets feel he?s more effective as a winger. Do you have stats on his PPG as a centre vs winger? I?d bet it?s much higher as a winger.
That I am not able to find.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 20, 2018, 09:20:30 PM
Thought he was drafted by the Pens?
6th round, 177th overall in 2006 by the Capitals.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 20, 2018, 11:19:50 PM
That I am not able to find.
6th round, 177th overall in 2006 by the Capitals.
Thx.... Did he ever play for the Pens?
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 20, 2018, 11:29:46 PM
Thx.... Did he ever play for the Pens?
Nope. Just the Capitals, the Ducks, and the Jets.
Laine looks to have an injury. Can?t put any weight on his foot.
Quote from: The Zipp on March 18, 2018, 06:15:08 PM
Great having those guys back...I am starting to fear injuries more than losses at this point. If we get a a few wins in a row here at home those fears will even get stronger.
Realistically I don?t think we are going to catch Nashville for first so second is prob the best we can do - looking like a matchup with the Wild is going to happen. That will be a hard fought series with the Wild having the edge in recent playoff experience...
Worst fears realized. Laine off after taking a hard shot to the ankle
At this point I care little about the outcome of this game. I just want Laine to be okay. Man, what a massive, massive hit this would be.
Jets first-rounder Kristian Vesalainen will play in Winnipeg (Jets/Moose) next season. Will sign his ELC after this season.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on March 21, 2018, 12:20:06 AM
At this point I care little about the outcome of this game. I just want Laine to be okay. Man, what a massive, massive hit this would be.
Agreed. Historic point streak on the line, too. :(
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 21, 2018, 12:31:23 AM
Agreed. Historic point streak on the line, too. :(
I doubt he returns tonight. Best case scenario I think is he?s back for the playoffs. I wouldn?t be surprised if he broke his ankle. Hoping that it?s just swollen.
Patrik Laine will not return to tonight?s game due to a lower body injury.
IF it?s a broken ankle, typical recovery time is 6 weeks for the bone to heal.
I can?t see his ankle being broken as he pushed off of it getting up from the ice, but what do I know? Best case scenario: very bad bruise and he?s kept out for a few games. Worser case: sprain or fracture, out for what, 6-8 weeks? Nightmare scenario: broke some sort of bone, done for the season. I am having heart palpitations just thinking about it...
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on March 21, 2018, 01:13:54 AM
I can?t see his ankle being broken as he pushed off of it getting up from the ice, but what do I know? Best case scenario: very bad bruise and he?s kept out for a few games. Worser case: sprain or fracture, out for what, 6-8 weeks? Nightmare scenario: broke some sort of bone, done for the season. I am having heart palpitations just thinking about it...
Sure hope you?re right re. no broken bone. The fact he could put no weight on it is what concerns me. Here?s hoping for a bad bruise!
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 21, 2018, 01:20:28 AM
Sure hope you?re right re. no broken bone. The fact he could put no weight on it is what concerns me. Here?s hoping for a bad bruise!
See I?m telling myself that the trainers/therapists were telling him not to put any weight on his foot until he got it checked out... The sense of doom is closing in though.
Jets are testing the kings goalie with everything they have and protecting Comrie incredibly.
OT. Keep Buffy on the bench
Win!!
Hoping for only a bruise on Laine. Ice it up - miss a few games good as new!!
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 21, 2018, 12:55:06 AM
IF it?s a broken ankle, typical recovery time is 6 weeks for the bone to heal.
Broken ankle? Thats not a normal thing to happen.
It would be likely something in the foot.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 21, 2018, 01:52:22 AM
Broken ankle? Thats not a normal thing to happen.
It would be likely something in the foot.
Did you see where the puck hit him? And I?m pretty sure the ankle is considered part of the foot.
Maurice says the team doesn't believe Laine's injury will be long-term.
"We'll see how it comes in. We've already had him looked at a couple different ways. There is nothing sinister." -Maurice on Laine.
Good news. Prob swollen and sore. Ice and rest and he will be back in a week.
Let?s hope he?s right. What. A. Relief!
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 21, 2018, 01:53:03 AM
Did you see where the puck hit him? And I?m pretty sure the ankle is considered part of the foot.
Ever played hockey? It very well might be. But most have skates that cover ur ankles.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 21, 2018, 02:14:28 AM
Ever played hockey? It very well might be. But most have skates that cover ur ankles.
Yes I?ve played hockey; lots when I was younger. Based on what I saw on TV it looked like it hit him in the ankle. The announcers said it hit him right where there?s no protection.
Does not look serious as per Maurice -
At a post-game news conference, Jets head coach Paul Maurice said Laine's injury wasn't serious and he expected him to make a quick recovery.
"It's a concussion," Maurice joked when asked where exactly Laine had taken the hit. "We've already had him looked a couple different ways and there's nothing sinister."
From Dreger: Patrick Laine will be reevaluated today. Sense is he might miss a few games, but injury isn't long term after blocking shot last night.
Right ankle, correct? Which is "dexter". Left ankle is "sinister"... so its nothing sinister... its dexter... ;)
Dexter and Sinister are designations of right and left when referring to medieval knights..
Quote from: theaardvark on March 21, 2018, 03:37:56 PM
Right ankle, correct? Which is "dexter". Left ankle is "sinister"... so its nothing sinister... its dexter... u
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INJURY UPDATE: #NHLJets head coach Paul Maurice says F Patrik Laine (LBI) has a bruise - nothing broken. No timeline for his return and he's unlikely to play in Sunday's game vs. #Preds http://tsn.ca/1.1034816 #TSNHockey
I think that's pretty much what everyone expected.
Best case scenario, I think.
Quote from: Jesse on March 22, 2018, 04:48:54 PM
I think that's pretty much what everyone expected.
Best case scenario, I think.
Agreed. Nothing serious, which is good news.
These injury issues with the Jets this season, though... Unreal.
And I would think Roslovic slides back in on the wing with Laine out for tomorrow's game.
https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1510706
Laine out for a few weeks with a brused foot.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 22, 2018, 04:54:14 PM
Agreed. Nothing serious, which is good news.
These injury issues with the Jets this season, though... Unreal.
And I would think Roslovic slides back in on the wing with Laine out for tomorrow's game.
Thought I read Dano looked to be in today and not Roslovic. That could still change for the game tomorrow though.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 22, 2018, 07:32:12 PM
Thought I read Dano looked to be in today and not Roslovic. That could still change for the game tomorrow though.
If this is true, is this because they are not liking Roslovic's play as of late, or because they are preserving him for playoffs, or just think Dano has a better fit with how they're stacking the lines?
I like Jackie a lot and think he will be a mainstay with the Jets roster next year. I would love to get him some playoff experience.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 22, 2018, 07:30:41 PM
https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1510706
Laine out for a few weeks with a brused foot.
4-14 days is what the article says...
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 22, 2018, 07:40:29 PM
If this is true, is this because they are not liking Roslovic's play as of late, or because they are preserving him for playoffs, or just think Dano has a better fit with how they're stacking the lines?
I like Jackie a lot and think he will be a mainstay with the Jets roster next year. I would love to get him some playoff experience.
Roslovic has the flu.
Quote from: The Zipp on March 22, 2018, 07:40:39 PM
4-14 days is what the article says...
Really? Or does it say up to 2 weeks?
Its some tweet that says 4-14 days not the afticle.
At practice today i read that Little was in Laines spot.
Sorry i seen what the lines were on Facebook but cant find it now.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 22, 2018, 07:43:53 PM
Really? Or does it say up to 2 weeks?
Its some tweet that says 4-14 days not the afticle.
the tweet is part of the article...up to 2 weeks is the same as up to 14 days. I use a "few" to mean as three...
at any rate it isn't that bad and unless the Jets have a collosal melt down I think 2nd place is the where they will be. Sucks for the goal race to be missing any time though.
It appears Patrik Laine will take morning skate today and will see how it feels afterwards. #NHLJets
Little was skating with Ehlers & Stats yesterday ....... would rather see Armia there ....... 1 Finn out so 1 Finn in
Actually just think Armia's ability would compliment what Ehlers & Stats do ..... let Little hang with Perrier & Copper
Heard this morning, on 1290, that PM said, if Roslovic feels better than he will be in the lineup.
Jack Roslovic is on the ice for #NHLJets this morning after missing yesterday?s session with flu-like symptoms
Laine on the ice with #NHLJets morning skate set to start in a few minutes.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 23, 2018, 02:35:15 PM
Jack Roslovic is on the ice for #NHLJets this morning after missing yesterday?s session with flu-like symptoms
Laine on the ice with #NHLJets morning skate set to start in a few minutes.
Great news! ;D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 23, 2018, 02:58:35 PM
Great news! ;D
Sounds like Laine might even play tonight :o
Maurice says Laine wants to play. "We'll give him the afternoon to make sure it continues to go the direction it's going."
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 23, 2018, 03:21:19 PM
Maurice says Laine wants to play. "We'll give him the afternoon to make sure it continues to go the direction it's going."
In this context, I would rather them sit him.
If he's not good to go the morning of the game, let him sit one out.
Quote from: Jesse on March 23, 2018, 03:23:38 PM
In this context, I would rather them sit him.
If he's not good to go the morning of the game, let him sit one out.
He practiced this morning.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 23, 2018, 03:25:09 PM
He practiced this morning.
I understand that, but it's how pomo worded it, "We'll give him the afternoon to make sure it continues to go the direction it's going."
It makes it sound as if he's not there yet, but they think it will be by tonight.
Quote from: Jesse on March 23, 2018, 03:29:21 PM
I understand that, but it's how pomo worded it, "We'll give him the afternoon to make sure it continues to go the direction it's going."
It makes it sound as if he's not there yet, but they think it will be by tonight.
I think they just want to see how he feels after practice. My bet is he plays tonight.
If his mobility isn't great, then he is a liability except in his office on the PP. Dress him for just PP time, sure. But not regular shifts unless he's going to be able to skate naturally and defend himself (including getting out of the way of pucks...). If he's distracted by pain, or by mobility issues, that's when you get caught in the crosshairs of a legal but devastating open ice hit...
Laine?s sequence of events this morning according to Maurice:
1. Felt good so took the morning skate with the team rather than with injured players
2. Skated harder than he?s ever skated in a warm up to prove he was ok
3. Left ice, walked into coach?s office & said, ?I can play?
Quote from: theaardvark on March 23, 2018, 03:35:37 PM
If his mobility isn't great, then he is a liability except in his office on the PP. Dress him for just PP time, sure. But not regular shifts unless he's going to be able to skate naturally and defend himself (including getting out of the way of pucks...).
What a ridiculous suggestion. He either plays or he doesn't play. You don't dress a player just to have him sit for the majority game on the off chance he'll hit the ice for power play time. That's detrimental to the player and the team.
He practiced this morning. Now it'll depend on how the rest of the day goes to see if he'll be able to play as he normally would later on.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 23, 2018, 03:38:07 PM
Laine?s sequence of events this morning according to Maurice:
1. Felt good so took the morning skate with the team rather than with injured players
2. Skated harder than he?s ever skated in a warm up to prove he was ok
3. Left ice, walked into coach?s office & said, ?I can play?
Such great news. Now we wait.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 23, 2018, 03:41:28 PM
What a ridiculous suggestion. He either plays or he doesn't play. You don't dress a player just to have him sit for the majority game on the off chance he'll hit the ice for power play time. That's detrimental to the player and the team.
He practiced this morning. Now it'll depend on how the rest of the day goes to see if he'll be able to play as he normally would later on.
Such great news. Now we wait.
Exactly. Some people would want him back because of his PP ability, and like I said, if it was just for that, sure. So sorry I assumed that the "but that would be dumb" was implied. Which is why he shouldn't dress until he is ready.
Great news about his practice today. Hopefully his foot doesn't swell up too much this afternoon, or require much freezing.
I think he will play based on what Pomo says...
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 23, 2018, 03:38:07 PM
Laine?s sequence of events this morning according to Maurice:
1. Felt good so took the morning skate with the team rather than with injured players
2. Skated harder than he?s ever skated in a warm up to prove he was ok
3. Left ice, walked into coach?s office & said, ?I can play?
Sounds pretty good, I would simply exercise extra caution with a player like Laine this close to the play offs.
Quote from: Jesse on March 23, 2018, 03:57:46 PM
Sounds pretty good, I would simply exercise extra caution with a player like Laine this close to the play offs.
I think he wants to win the Rocket Richard trophy.
http://winnipegsun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/winnipeg-jets/quick-healer-laine-back-on-ice-and-a-game-time-decision-for-jets
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 23, 2018, 04:09:39 PM
I think he wants to win the Rocket Richard trophy.
Absolutely he does.
But, and I'm not saying it is necessary in this particular case, but it is in these moments where the coach has to make the decision for the players' best interest.
But hey, if Laine skated hard at practice and they don't see any ill-effects in the warm-up, what else is the coach supposed to do?
Is Helle in net tonight?
Quote from: Jesse on March 23, 2018, 04:21:41 PM
Absolutely he does.
But, and I'm not saying it is necessary in this particular case, but it is in these moments where the coach has to make the decision for the players' best interest.
But hey, if Laine skated hard at practice and they don't see any ill-effects in the warm-up, what else is the coach supposed to do?
Is Helle in net tonight?
I'd assume the medical staff has final sign-off on whether he plays.
Quote from: Jesse on March 23, 2018, 04:21:41 PM
Absolutely he does.
But, and I'm not saying it is necessary in this particular case, but it is in these moments where the coach has to make the decision for the players' best interest.
But hey, if Laine skated hard at practice and they don't see any ill-effects in the warm-up, what else is the coach supposed to do?
Is Helle in net tonight?
Yup
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 23, 2018, 04:22:24 PM
I'd assume the medical staff has final sign-off on whether he plays.
I believe they have to do that before he can practice with the reg team. If he pracyiced this morning then they signed off.
Now its up to the coach.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 23, 2018, 04:34:36 PM
I believe they have to do that before he can practice with the reg team. If he pracyiced this morning then they signed off.
Now its up to the coach.
Maurice said they?re going to see how he feels later this afternoon so I?d think the medical staff will be involved in that evaluation.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 23, 2018, 04:36:52 PM
Maurice said they?re going to see how he feels later this afternoon so I?d think the medical staff will be involved in that evaluation.
In some way im sure they will. But if nothings broken and they let him skate with the reg team then thats it for them. They cant say at game time he cant play.
If his foot dont swell up and can put a skate on then its up to Maurice to see if hes moving they way he should. If he is then he playes.... if not he sits.
Let's keep in mind it's a bruise and not a broken bone. It could be irritating and painful to play on but it's not as if he's playing with an ankle that's been broken and "almost healed".
I say let him do what he wants (to play)
Maurice said, IIRC, three factors:
Doctors have to say its OK.
Conditioning has to be OK (Laine hasn't been out long enough for that to be an issue)
Player has to have confidence to play. And Laine has enough of that for the whole team...
Luv Laine & his attitude & of course contributions ....... however I do hope he sits out tonight.
This is an assumption on my part ....... thinking he may be making his cuts decently but I fret over the stick work that occurs on player lower legs
A few bangs (Perry & Kessler are evil stick men) in that sweet bruised spot & he may end out for a bit more than necessary.
Quote from: Jockitch on March 23, 2018, 07:23:24 PM
Luv Laine & his attitude & of course contributions ....... however I do hope he sits out tonight.
This is an assumption on my part ....... thinking he may be making his cuts decently but I fret over the stick work that occurs on player lower legs
A few bangs (Perry & Kessler are evil stick men) in that sweet bruised spot & he may end out for a bit more than necessary.
I bet there will be some bubble wrap down there, and that there will be Big Buff waiting for someone to take liberties in that way...
Quote from: theaardvark on March 23, 2018, 07:44:35 PM
I bet there will be some bubble wrap down there, and that there will be Big Buff waiting for someone to take liberties in that way...
With clowns like Perry and Kessler, I'm hoping Buff takes his own liberties regardless.
Yesterday we thought Patrik Laine might miss a couple of games and turns out he won?t miss any. #NHLJets Laine will play tonight vs ANA
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 23, 2018, 08:02:30 PM
With clowns like Perry and Kessler, I'm hoping Buff takes his own liberties regardless.
I agree. I despise the ducks along with Perry and Kessler, among others. Buff and Lowry need to be dishing some heavy hits to send a message.
What a range of emotions for fans from the end of last game until today regarding Laine. So happy to see him back on the ice. Hope he lights them up tonight!
No Getzlaf tonight. Out with the flu
Great first period. Dominated play just couldn?t capitalize on some good chances
Quote from: The Zipp on March 23, 2018, 11:48:12 PM
Great first period. Dominated play just couldn?t capitalize on some good chances
Yep, and luck on their side with deflections leading to their goal. Looks like a fun game to be at.
Call him Gibson?s Finest cause he is keeping the Ducks in this game.
Quote from: The Zipp on March 24, 2018, 12:49:19 AM
Call him Gibson?s Finest cause he is keeping the Ducks in this game.
The only reason this was a game. Connor is an ace, luckily.
Truly was an overwhelming case of our Jets just flying out there & absolutely dominating with & without the puck.
However ........ what a scare having to see it go into OT. Gibson was at his Finest for sure but Conman was the Natural closer.
Great to see Laine out on the ice & WOW ......... it was one of his hustling best of the year.
Quote from: The Zipp on March 24, 2018, 12:49:19 AM
Call him Gibson?s Finest cause he is keeping the Ducks in this game.
Dennis Beyak said that during the game.
This Laine kid, man. He is questionable, 4-14 days. So what does he do? Gets his foot in theskate, then goes out and has his best practice of the year, convinces coach to let him play, and hustles like its game one of the season.
Thank the hockey gods that we got the number 2 pick. We might have gotten stuck with Matthews... ;)
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 24, 2018, 09:38:19 AM
Dennis Beyak said that during the game.
I was at the game - didn?t hear it...although in my mind I kept saying ?tight turns? to myself so clearly I have watched too much Jets hockey - I have mind melded with Beyak and it isn?t pretty..
Quote from: The Zipp on March 24, 2018, 01:17:24 PM
I was at the game - didn?t hear it...although in my mind I kept saying ?tight turns? to myself so clearly I have watched too much Jets hockey - I have mind melded with Beyak and it isn?t pretty..
"...The long stick of Toby Enstrom!"
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 24, 2018, 03:40:25 PM
"...The long stick of Toby Enstrom!"
;D
So true..
?Carens (don?t even know how to spell it) off the backboard...
It's time for Toby to call it a career. Guy cant stay healthy for more than 2-3 games in a row.
#NHLJets captain Blake Wheeler is sent off the ice by HC Paul Maurice after dropping his gloves and going after Ben Chiarot. It was a strange sequence during a special teams drill. Chiarot and Mark Scheifele were exchanging cross-checks in front. Then wheeler got involved.
A scrap breaks out at Jets practice. No kidding. Blake Wheeler in the middle of it, looked like he was going after Ben Chairot. Scheifele in there too. Wheeler heads to room, welt near left eye.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jets-raised-game-whole-level-win-ducks/
Good read on the Duck win.
Quote from: The Zipp on March 24, 2018, 03:51:00 PM
;D
So true..
?Carens (don?t even know how to spell it) off the backboard...
Caroms
Quote from: The Zipp on March 24, 2018, 12:49:19 AM
Call him Gibson?s Finest cause he is keeping the Ducks in this game.
The only bright spot on that grease fire of a team. They were absolutely owned by the Jets last night.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 24, 2018, 04:35:56 PM
#NHLJets captain Blake Wheeler is sent off the ice by HC Paul Maurice after dropping his gloves and going after Ben Chiarot. It was a strange sequence during a special teams drill. Chiarot and Mark Scheifele were exchanging cross-checks in front. Then wheeler got involved.
A scrap breaks out at Jets practice. No kidding. Blake Wheeler in the middle of it, looked like he was going after Ben Chairot. Scheifele in there too. Wheeler heads to room, welt near left eye.
...dafuq??
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 24, 2018, 06:03:48 PM
Boys are gearing up for the playoffs. :o
Apparently. I guess I just don?t understand how you can fight someone and then just be cool. But I guess it happens in the pros, which I won?t ever really ?get?
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 24, 2018, 06:08:13 PM
Apparently. I guess I just don?t understand how you can fight someone and then just be cool. But I guess it happens in the pros, which I won?t ever really ?get?
It?s because you didn?t grow up with a brother. Happens daily.
Quote from: Jesse on March 24, 2018, 06:14:45 PM
It?s because you didn?t grow up with a brother. Happens daily.
Ooooooh
100 points, 100 pages...
Preds lost. 6 back with a game tomorrow...win and we are only 4 back...first place isn?t out of reach
Yep, enormous game tonight worth 4 points. Win, and we are only 4 points out of first at even games.
Last time, Nashville was gifted a super injured Jets and now we are catching them tired. It?s payback time!
Sara Orlesky @saraorlesky
The #NHLJets are shutting Toby Enstrom down for the rest of the regular season.
So, the Morrow pickup is looking like a wise decision... have we seen #39's last game as a Jet, or will he be back for the playoffs?
#NHLJets head coach Paul Maurice says D Toby Enstrom shut down for rest of regular season but should be available when playoffs begin. D Tucker Poolman about to get a lot of work. #wfp
Sounds like Toby will be back for the playoffs. Toby has been my least fav Jet for many years but I am starting to change my outlook on him - he doesn?t make glaring errors, he is smart with the puck and for a guy his size is able to be a very solid D man in the NHL.
I hope he is back for the playoffs
Quote from: theaardvark on March 25, 2018, 03:38:23 PM
Sara Orlesky @saraorlesky
The #NHLJets are shutting Toby Enstrom down for the rest of the regular season.
So, the Morrow pickup is looking like a wise decision... have we seen #39's last game as a Jet, or will he be back for the playoffs?
If he is back he won't last for more than one game.
Jets definitely have a chance to catch the Preds ........ so a Victory would go a long way tonight.
Health wise .......... Jets are going down the home stretch with only 1/2 their starting Dmen from their implied 6 regulars.
Noted that Preds Top 4 Dmen have scored 42 goals of which 17 have been on the PP ....... our Top 4 are at 19 with even strength & 4 on the PP..
If the Jets win tonight they officially clinch a playoff spot. Or if they get one point and the ducks lose. I think it will be a fiery game tonight and I hope the Jets give some payback.
Also, the Jets have announced that they?ve signed CJ Suess to a one year entry level contract. He will report to the Moose. Suess was a fifth round pick in 2014.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on March 25, 2018, 08:17:04 PM
Also, the Jets have announced that they?ve signed CJ Suess to a one year entry level contract. He will report to the Moose. Suess was a fifth round pick in 2014.
Does he by chance have a medical degree?
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 25, 2018, 08:31:49 PM
Does he by chance have a medical degree?
Lol, I?m sure he?ll get that a lot. I read somewhere that his last name is actually pronounced ?cease? not ?soose? so there goes that :D
Wasn?t sure if I could hate a team more than the ducks but the preds are right up there. Jets need to be way more disciplined in the second or we?re done for the night. Preds sure have some luck to go along with their skill...0.3 seconds left and they score >:(
What a pitiful showing by the home team so far tonight.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 26, 2018, 12:23:18 AM
What a pitiful showing by the home team so far tonight.
But they've improved. Great goal by Little!
A much better period from the Jets. Two more to win it in the third! My blood pressure though...
What a wild season series between these two teams so far. As much as I don't want to see a playoff series between them, it would be highly entertaining.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 26, 2018, 01:26:25 AM
What a wild season series between these two teams so far. As much as I don't want to see a playoff series between them, it would be highly entertaining.
Agreed, but I think it?s a series we?d lose.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 26, 2018, 01:29:17 AM
Agreed, but I think it?s a series we?d lose.
Hard to say. I think it'd be a seven-game coinflip.
Playoffs!!! ;D ;D ;D
The return of the Winnipeg Whiteout!! Woohoo! What a game this was. Honestly, I hope we don?t face the Preds again. Hoping for a miracle and the wildcard team knocks them out because I don?t think we would beat them. This year at least.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on March 26, 2018, 02:28:07 AM
The return of the Winnipeg Whiteout!! Woohoo! What a game this was. Honestly, I hope we don?t face the Preds again. Hoping for a miracle and the wildcard team knocks them out because I don?t think we would beat them. This year at least.
This is going to make spring so fun. Gotta hope we can get through the first series then worry about the Preds. Got a chance to go to tonight?s game last minute - it was lots of fun..the dislike between these teams is awesome.
Quote from: The Zipp on March 26, 2018, 02:58:06 AM
This is going to make spring so fun. Gotta hope we can get through the first series then worry about the Preds. Got a chance to go to tonight?s game last minute - it was lots of fun..the dislike between these teams is awesome.
And our kids are learning from this what is going to take to win a Cup.
Kyle Connor has got to be the favourite for this week NHL first star.
Steve Mason is back skating today and Trouba was wearing a contact jersey today.
The Eastern conference scares me. As good as we are this year, I am anxious to see how we fare in a series against an eastern conference team. We struggled this year a couple of times against Columbus, lost our only game so far to Toronto 7-2, took 1 game-a-piece against Tampa, and lost our only contest so far against Boston. Also a team like the Penguins always comes alive during the playoffs.
Quote from: Chris1982 on March 26, 2018, 05:08:45 PM
The Eastern conference scares me. As good as we are this year, I am anxious to see how we fare in a series against an eastern conference team. We struggled this year a couple of times against Columbus, lost our only game so far to Toronto 7-2, took 1 game-a-piece against Tampa, and lost our only contest so far against Boston. Also a team like the Penguins always comes alive during the playoffs.
East doesn?t scare me. My only concern is the Preds; I?m not convinced we can beat them in a 7 game series.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 26, 2018, 05:11:28 PM
East doesn?t scare me. My only concern is the Preds; I?m not convinced we can beat them in a 7 game series.
Im not convinced we could beat Tampa, Pittsburgh and a few other Eastern teams in a 7 game series.
The Preds look solid all playoffs last year, and were brought back to reality in the Cup finals against Pittsburgh. The East is much stronger than the West, IMO.
Quote from: Chris1982 on March 26, 2018, 05:15:13 PM
Im not convinced we could beat Tampa, Pittsburgh and a few other Eastern teams in a 7 game series.
The Preds look solid all playoffs last year, and were brought back to reality in the Cup finals against Pittsburgh. The East is much stronger than the West, IMO.
Statistically, the West is a much stronger conference.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 26, 2018, 05:22:37 PM
Statistically, the West is a much stronger conference.
Yes, mostly because the West bad teams, are worse, so the top West teams picks up lots of stats off of our own West bottom feeders. The East is a better conference, so the wealth is spread around more evenly.
Quote from: Chris1982 on March 26, 2018, 05:24:54 PM
Yes, mostly because the West bad teams, are worse, so the top West teams picks up lots of stats off of our own West bottom feeders. The East is a better conference, so the wealth is spread around more evenly.
I'm pretty sure that's not right, but I can't find anything to backup my thinking that the West is the much stronger conference. Does anyone have stats on Western teams record versus Eastern teams this season?
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 26, 2018, 05:33:32 PM
I'm pretty sure that's not right, but I can't find anything to backup my thinking that the West is the much stronger conference. Does anyone have stats on Western teams record versus Eastern teams this season?
Hmmm.... you may be correct after looking at some stats from this year. So, my bad.
Anyway, I still stand by my initial statement. Season stats aside, the regular season is usual a non-factor during the playoffs. The Eastern teams this year look more primed for playoff hockey and I will bet an Eastern team takes the Cup this year.
Good read on the Jets and why they?re in the playoffs: https://www.nhl.com/news/winnipeg-jets-playoffs-clinch-analysis-patrik-laine/c-297343416?tid=284438166
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 26, 2018, 08:38:06 PM
Good read on the Jets and why they?re in the playoffs: https://www.nhl.com/news/winnipeg-jets-playoffs-clinch-analysis-patrik-laine/c-297343416?tid=284438166
Great read. Thanks
From that article I found this stat pretty impressive:
The Jets' longest losing streak this season was three games; they were 0-2-1 from Dec. 5-9 and again from March 10-13.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 26, 2018, 11:28:07 PM
From that article I found this stat pretty impressive:
The Jets' longest losing streak this season was three games; they were 0-2-1 from Dec. 5-9 and again from March 10-13.
Yep, and those "streaks" included a point each yet. No droubt of points for more than 2 games.
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 27, 2018, 12:40:04 AM
Yep, and those "streaks" included a point each yet. No droubt of points for more than 2 games.
That?s the kind of consistency and mental toughness a team needs to make a long playoff run.
Tyler Myers has been nominated for the Bill Masterton Memorial Trophy: http://winnipegsun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/winnipeg-jets/myers-up-for-masterton-jets-defenceman-recognized-for-ability-to-bounce-back (http://winnipegsun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/winnipeg-jets/myers-up-for-masterton-jets-defenceman-recognized-for-ability-to-bounce-back)
He's had an incredible bounce-back season and is on pace to finish with his second highest points total in his career and his best since joining the Jets. He's also one of just two Jets defensemen to not a miss game this season (the other is Morrissey).
The Jets have re-assigned goalie Michael Hutchinson to the Moose.
Late Period goal again...
All I can say to that is:
?Sad bweakfast...?
Quote from: The Zipp on March 28, 2018, 01:05:47 AM
Late Period goal again...
All I can say to that is:
?Sad bweakfast...?
Ain?t too bad now though
Game is getting a little ugly.
Tanev is on fire...jets are taking too many penalties...last one of Sheifele was a bit weak.
6 W's in a row and climbin'.
4 games in a row that have gone past regulation and into overtime. That has got to be some sort of record.
Quote from: Chris1982 on March 28, 2018, 09:54:25 AM
4 games in a row that have gone past regulation and into overtime. That has got to be some sort of record.
And we won them all! Not bad for a team that has sucked past regulation all year (until now, apparently)
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 28, 2018, 12:13:16 PM
And we won them all! Not bad for a team that has sucked past regulation all year (until now, apparently)
The law of averages has hit the Jets the last few games.
The Jets did just about everything they could to give away that game last night... And they still won. Says a lot about this team right now, IMO.
Morrissey could've been wearing the goat horns today after taking such a stupid penalty. Tanev's heroics saved the day!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 28, 2018, 01:00:27 PM
The Jets did just about everything they could to give away that game last night... And they still won. Says a lot about this team right now, IMO.
Morrissey could've been wearing the goat horns today after taking such a stupid penalty. Tanev's heroics saved the day!
I think Morrissey thought the guy he clobbered was the same guy to delivered that nasty hit on Scheifele. He was wrong.
Maurice's lost challenge ended up in a 5 on 3, which resulted in a goal against too.
The Bruins fans on the Globe site seem to think Morrissey will get 5. lol. Thoughts on what the repercussions will be?
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 28, 2018, 01:44:12 PM
The Bruins fans on the Globe site seem to think Morrissey will get 5. lol. Thoughts on what the repercussions will be?
Nothing.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 28, 2018, 01:04:31 PM
I think Morrissey thought the guy he clobbered was the same guy to delivered that nasty hit on Scheifele. He was wrong.
Maurice's lost challenge ended up in a 5 on 3, which resulted in a goal against too.
Of course. But if not for Morrissey's very bad decision, there is no 5-minute major and the Bruins likely don't put up two to tie the game early in the third period.
I'm all for players looking out for their teammates but not at the expense of losing one's cool and taking dangerous runs at opponents, resulting in costly penalties. The Jets played into the Bruins' hands last night and it could've proven costly. Morrissey's penalty breathed new life into the visitors and that's not something you can afford to do, especially in the playoffs.
The claws came out yesterday. Morrissey might get a game or two. A bit of nasty goes a long way in April and May.
Kudos for Tanev scoring (even 1 goal was overdue) the Hattrick. Exciting 2 points earned.
Had no problem with PM challenging & felt it should have been NO goal. Morrissey should get a couple but may not due to his past tidy record.
If the Moose send a Dman to Chicago then it will be in anticipation of a suspension. Hope Trouba is not forced to come in a game or 2 earlier than PM wants.
With last night's shootout victory, Connor Hellebuyck earned his 40th victory of the season and 28th on home ice. With two more home games remaining for the Jets, he has a chance to make history: https://www.bardown.com/connor-hellebuyck-is-two-wins-away-from-setting-an-incredible-new-nhl-record-1.1040591 (https://www.bardown.com/connor-hellebuyck-is-two-wins-away-from-setting-an-incredible-new-nhl-record-1.1040591)
No further discipline expected for Josh Morrissey boarding hit on Matt Grzelcyk from Bruins/Jets. Belief is that Grzelcyk made a quick turn to face the boards shortly before contact & put himself in a vulnerable position "immediately prior or simultaneously with the check"
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 28, 2018, 04:45:56 PM
No further discipline expected for Josh Morrissey boarding hit on Matt Grzelcyk from Bruins/Jets. Belief is that Grzelcyk made a quick turn to face the boards shortly before contact & put himself in a vulnerable position "immediately prior or simultaneously with the check"
Where did you come across this information?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 28, 2018, 04:35:46 PM
With last night's shootout victory, Connor Hellebuyck earned his 40th victory of the season and 28th on home ice. With two more home games remaining for the Jets, he has a chance to make history: https://www.bardown.com/connor-hellebuyck-is-two-wins-away-from-setting-an-incredible-new-nhl-record-1.1040591 (https://www.bardown.com/connor-hellebuyck-is-two-wins-away-from-setting-an-incredible-new-nhl-record-1.1040591)
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But we have 47 wins....that means Helle only lost 7 games. That?s....unbelievable
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 28, 2018, 04:58:09 PM
Where did you come across this information?
On Twitter. And it?s been confirmed; no discipline for Morrissey.
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 28, 2018, 05:03:28 PM
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But we have 47 wins....that means Helle only lost 7 games. That?s....unbelievable
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40 of the Jets' victories go to Hellebuyck. His record is 40-11-9 so far this season.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 28, 2018, 05:07:41 PM
On Twitter. And it?s been confirmed; no discipline for Morrissey.
Good news. Thanks for sharing.
And the link: http://winnipegsun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/winnipeg-jets/jets-morrissey-off-the-hook (http://winnipegsun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/winnipeg-jets/jets-morrissey-off-the-hook)
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 28, 2018, 05:03:28 PM
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But we have 47 wins....that means Helle only lost 7 games. That?s....unbelievable
He has 11 losses total...
But Pav's only has 7 losses this year... ;)
No doubt that #37 has been the story this year. With the Hart talk centering on Wheels, and what he's done, how does Bucky not get some love? I don't think that we're near where we are if he doesn't have this standout season...
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 28, 2018, 05:23:54 PM
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40 of the Jets' victories go to Hellebuyck. His record is 40-11-9 so far this season.
Wow, I read that wrong. Was concentrating on something else at the time.
Very happy to hear the news of Morrissey avoiding any consequences.
HellB should be a contender for the Vezina ....... his numbers are terrific.
Contender, definitely. It?ll be hard to beat out Rinne, though
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 28, 2018, 11:09:20 PM
Contender, definitely. It?ll be hard to beat out Rinne, though
Rinne?s name is already carved onto the trophy.
Helle is definitely top 3 in the league this year though!
Quote from: Jesse on March 29, 2018, 01:41:36 AM
Rinne?s name is already carved onto the trophy.
Helle is definitely top 3 in the league this year though!
I dont agree with this. Hellebyuck has a shot at the Vezina. I also consider MA Fleury a strong candidate as well. I am not sure how much of an impact Fleurys injury would play, but Fleury has a better GAA and save percentage than Rinne.
Quote from: Chris1982 on March 29, 2018, 09:32:36 AM
I dont agree with this. Hellebyuck has a shot at the Vezina. I also consider MA Fleury a strong candidate as well. I am not sure how much of an impact Fleurys injury would play, but Fleury has a better GAA and save percentage than Rinne.
Pekka definitely has the vez wrapped up. Fleury is having a great season but IMO missed too much time this year. Hellebyuck I would say is the runner up, awesome season but just not quite the numbers that Pekka has been putting up.
Quote from: Chris1982 on March 29, 2018, 09:32:36 AM
I dont agree with this.
Me, neither.
Rinne: 2.25 GAA, .929 SV%
Hellebuyck: 2.38 GAA, .923 SV%
Rinne has marginally better numbers and has played behind arguably the best blue line all season. And let's call a spade a spade here: Rinne has been a top tier netminder for years. Did anyone expect this from Hellebuyck going into the season?
Hellebuyck has a chance at winning the Vezina as well as anyone else. I'd also put Vasilevskiy and Andersen in the discussion.
#NHLJets HC Paul Maurice says there will be no changes to his skaters tonight. D Jacob Trouba is banging on his door to play and hasn't been ruled out for Saturday's game vs #Leafs and G Steve Mason could be an option to play in a game next week. Best guess is Tue vs #Habs
'Member when the Habs and Sens placed #1 and #2 in the Atlantic last year? I 'member!!
Comrie confirmed for tonight.
Helle should be ready for a statement against the Laughs
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 29, 2018, 01:49:54 PM
Me, neither.
Rinne: 2.25 GAA, .929 SV%
Hellebuyck: 2.38 GAA, .923 SV%
Rinne has marginally better numbers and has played behind arguably the best blue line all season. And let's call a spade a spade here: Rinne has been a top tier netminder for years. Did anyone expect this from Hellebuyck going into the season?
Hellebuyck has a chance at winning the Vezina as well as anyone else. I'd also put Vasilevskiy and Andersen in the discussion.
Helle has had a great season, no question, but I don?t think he gets bonus points because it was unexpected. And while he?s second and third in a lot of categories, Rinne is first in most of them.
Again, of course Helle and a couple of others deserve to be mentioned, but at this point in the season, Rinne has it wrapped up.
One of the worst periods of hockey the jets have played recently...They don?t look too interested or intense
Awful first period for the Jets. Just skating around and making it easy for the hawks. Maybe they got a bit complacent from playing at home against top teams? Hopefully they show up in the second period. This one?s boring.
Ouch. Comrie is not looking NHL ready tonight.
Poor Comrie
Jets just don?t have it tonight. Comrie looks weak.
Looks like last years jets team...
Well the positive is Mason joined the team on this road trip. Comrie definitely struggling.
Quote from: The Zipp on March 30, 2018, 02:01:10 AM
Looks like last years jets team...
And the year before, and the year before that... I really hope they regroup and give some payback to the leafs on Saturday.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on March 30, 2018, 02:28:46 AM
And the year before, and the year before that... I really hope they regroup and give some payback to the leafs on Saturday.
Wheeler won?t allow this lackadaisical approach last beyond one game.
Quote from: The Zipp on March 30, 2018, 01:49:27 AM
Ouch. Comrie is not looking NHL ready tonight.
no he isn't and further underscores the importance and role Helly has played in the Jets turnaround this year. Absent last night was the key saves throughout the game and then boom, Jets get spanked. He needed a rest, so he got it, Mason is coming back and life will go on, but Comrie had a VERY mediocre night in goal.
Connor - Scheifele - Wheeler
Laine - Stastny - Ehlers
Perreault - Little - Armia
Copp - Lowry - Tanev
Morrissey - Trouba
Morrow - Byfuglien
Chiarot - Myers
Hellebuyck
Comrie
Healthy scratches: Roslovic, Dano, Matthias
Should be a good game.....GO JETS GO
Nice to see Trouba back in the lineup. I absolutely HATE the Leafs so the Jets had better win tonight!
I hope the Jets are snarly and fired up to lay down a beating on the leafs. Having come across more leaf fan comments on Twitter than usual in the last week or so, my brain hurts. Their overall intelligence seems to be lacking and many can?t view their team objectively. Kind of like the rider fans of the NHL. Just get the win Jets!
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 31, 2018, 04:17:48 PM
Connor - Scheifele - Wheeler
Laine - Stastny - Ehlers
Perreault - Little - Armia
Copp - Lowry - Tanev
Morrissey - Trouba
Morrow - Byfuglien
Chiarot - Myers
Hellebuyck
Comrie
Healthy scratches: Roslovic, Dano, Matthias
Should be a good game.....GO JETS GO
awesome line up! I think Mason is back though, no?
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 31, 2018, 07:10:02 PM
awesome line up! I think Mason is back though, no?
Next game i think.
Well deserved VICTORY ........ HellB was not overworked but very solid.
Ryan Suter is injured and putting no weight on right ankle. It slammed awkwardly into the dasher on a check from Remi Elie
If he is out for the playoffs that is huge for the Jets as they are the likely opponents.
Losing to Chicago doesn?t feel so bad when buffalo puts up 7 on the Preds at home.
2nd place clinched. Home ice in round 1
Quote from: The Zipp on April 01, 2018, 02:26:18 AM
Losing to Chicago doesn?t feel so bad when buffalo puts up 7 on the Preds at home.
I never feel bad for losing to Chicago.... they are a really good team who just fell on some bad luck this year losing Crawford so early in the season. Had Crawford been healthy all year I bet the Hawks would be right up in the playoff race.
The more I watch Hellebyuck, the more I appreciate about him is his positioning. Unlike Pavelec, and a lesser extent, Mason, who flop around more often. Helle, is very positionally sound.
#NHLJets recall Sami Niku from the @ManitobaMoose.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 01, 2018, 05:40:20 PM
#NHLJets recall Sami Niku from the @ManitobaMoose.
Awesome.
Quote from: Jesse on April 01, 2018, 06:02:49 PM
Awesome.
Sounds like he will get into some games too. Morrissey could use a little rest.
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 01, 2018, 10:25:07 AM
I never feel bad for losing to Chicago.... they are a really good team who just fell on some bad luck this year losing Crawford so early in the season. Had Crawford been healthy all year I bet the Hawks would be right up in the playoff race.
Jets played just awful that game - same as how the preds played against buffalo. Chicago isn't a good team this season - its more than just Crawford and the fact a backup goalie and essentially a glorified beer league goalie beat the jets speaks to how poorly the jets played. Thankfully they bounced back from that debacle.
Quote from: The Zipp on April 01, 2018, 06:09:05 PM
Jets played just awful that game - same as how the preds played against buffalo. Chicago isn't a good team this season - its more than just Crawford and the fact a backup goalie and essentially a glorified beer league goalie beat the jets speaks to how poorly the jets played. Thankfully they bounced back from that debacle.
Yep Chicago is not a good team. They?re going to need a bit of a rebuild over the next few years.
Nice bounceback win in Toronto the other night. The Jets shut 'em down in the third period after three unanswered goals in the middle frame.
Quote from: The Zipp on April 01, 2018, 02:26:18 AM
Losing to Chicago doesn?t feel so bad when buffalo puts up 7 on the Preds at home.
Agreed. Eliminated teams are playing for pride at this point.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 01, 2018, 06:25:06 PM
Yep Chicago is not a good team. They?re going to need a bit of a rebuild over the next few years.
They're a few pieces away from competing for a playoff berth again, IMO. Injuries at key positions didn't help their cause this season, either.
Sedines retired :o
Opps wrong thread
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 02, 2018, 04:45:03 PM
Nice bounceback win in Toronto the other night. The Jets shut 'em down in the third period after three unanswered goals in the middle frame.
Agreed. Eliminated teams are playing for pride at this point.
They're a few pieces away from competing for a playoff berth again, IMO. Injuries at key positions didn't help their cause this season, either.
Sure, I can agree with that, and that's why I said "a bit of a rebuild", but not a full teardown.
Connor - Scheifele - Wheeler
Laine - Stastny - Ehlers
Perreault - Little - Armia
Copp - Lowry - Tanev
Morrissey - Trouba
Morrow - Myers
Chiarot - Poolman
Hellebuyck
Comrie
Buff getting a rest day today with Poolman in. Heard Sami Niku likely to play tomorrow night. Would that mean Morrow or Morrissey gets a rest day?
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 02, 2018, 05:24:40 PM
Buff getting a rest day today with Poolman in. Heard Sami Niku likely to play tomorrow night. Would that mean Morrow or Morrissey gets a rest day?
Good idea. Time to start resting the big boys for the playoffs.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 02, 2018, 05:24:40 PM
Buff getting a rest day today with Poolman in. Heard Sami Niku likely to play tomorrow night. Would that mean Morrow or Morrissey gets a rest day?
Hopefully Morrissey.
What does Morrow need a rest day for?
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 02, 2018, 05:24:40 PM
Buff getting a rest day today with Poolman in. Heard Sami Niku likely to play tomorrow night. Would that mean Morrow or Morrissey gets a rest day?
Morrow im guessing.
With Trouba being out for awhile im wondering if they leave Morrissey in so they can gt their timing on. Just a guess tho.
Morrissey hasn't missed a game yet this season, be a shame for that streak to end if not necessary. Maybe reduce his icetime a little but don't sit him in the pressbox.
Quote from: drahgon on April 02, 2018, 06:00:16 PM
Morrissey hasn't missed a game yet this season, be a shame for that streak to end if not necessary. Maybe reduce his icetime a little but don't sit him in the pressbox.
Agreed. I don't know if he needs rest. I'd look at giving Byfuglien and Myers a game or two off, though.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 02, 2018, 06:02:09 PM
Agreed. I don't know if he needs rest. I'd look at giving Byfuglien and Myers a game or two off, though.
Niku is a LHD so that?s why I assumed it?d be Morrissey or Morrow. But I think Morrow can also play RHD so Myers isn?t a bad idea either.
Quote from: The Zipp on April 01, 2018, 06:09:05 PM
Jets played just awful that game - same as how the preds played against buffalo. Chicago isn't a good team this season - its more than just Crawford and the fact a backup goalie and essentially a glorified beer league goalie beat the jets speaks to how poorly the jets played. Thankfully they bounced back from that debacle.
I will not start a big debate on this - but I still think Crawford is the primary reason. Chicago will finish this year on par with their total goals scored in 2016-17 and 2015-16 when they were Stanley Cup contenders - however their goals against this year is far higher than the past few years. Their problems this year are mostly defensive, starting with their goaltending.
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 02, 2018, 08:47:25 PM
I will not start a big debate on this - but I still think Crawford is the primary reason. Chicago will finish this year on par with their total goals scored in 2016-17 and 2015-16 when they were Stanley Cup contenders - however their goals against this year is far higher than the past few years. Their problems this year are mostly defensive, starting with their goaltending.
I agree. Helly this year has made us a Cup team.
Hawks have lost Chevy to us. Maybe thats an issue?
Sure hope Myers is ok.
This is big Jets news:
NEWS: #mnwild defenseman Ryan Suter will require surgery to repair a fracture in his right ankle suffered Saturday night at Dallas and will miss the remainder of the season.
Myers sure gave it to that Senator. I like his toughness.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 03, 2018, 12:09:33 AM
And he?s back.
And returned with a mean streak. I like it! ;D
Ugly game once the Jets chose to take their foot off the gas. Take the two points, trash the game tape, and move on to Montreal.
Points in the standings are largely irrelevant to me - just want to not get players injured..
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 02, 2018, 08:47:25 PM
I will not start a big debate on this - but I still think Crawford is the primary reason. Chicago will finish this year on par with their total goals scored in 2016-17 and 2015-16 when they were Stanley Cup contenders - however their goals against this year is far higher than the past few years. Their problems this year are mostly defensive, starting with their goaltending.
Trading Hjalmarsson was the start of the decline. Crawford got hurt and Seabrooke fell off the face of the earth. Keith is the only d-man who wasn't a healthy scratch all year. There goes the season.
Apparently Kyle Connor gets a huge bonus (around $250,000) if he hits 30 goals. I guess that's why Scheifele tried to pass it to him despite being on a breakaway. :D
Also Hellebuyck is tied for 2nd all-time in wins for American goaltenders in a season with 42. Either Tom Barrasso or Mike Richter leads with 43. Sorry can't remember between the 2 of them who is the leader and who he is tied with right now.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on April 03, 2018, 02:43:34 PM
Apparently Kyle Connor gets a huge bonus (around $250,000) if he hits 30 goals. I guess that's why Scheifele tried to pass it to him despite being on a breakaway. :D
Also Hellebuyck is tied for 2nd all-time in wins for American goaltenders in a season with 42. Either Tom Barrasso or Mike Richter leads with 43. Sorry can't remember between the 2 of them who is the leader and who he is tied with right now.
Laine is due a huge bonus too if he finishes in the top 10 in NHL goals scored, which he will.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on April 03, 2018, 02:43:34 PM
Apparently Kyle Connor gets a huge bonus (around $250,000) if he hits 30 goals. I guess that's why Scheifele tried to pass it to him despite being on a breakaway. :D
Also Hellebuyck is tied for 2nd all-time in wins for American goaltenders in a season with 42. Either Tom Barrasso or Mike Richter leads with 43. Sorry can't remember between the 2 of them who is the leader and who he is tied with right now.
Barrasso has 43, Helly is tired with Richter.
Lots of scratches tonight: Scheifele, Wheeler, Morrissey, Trouba, Lowry. Mason starting in net.
Niku is making his NHL debut tonight.
Hoping we play the Habs for 60 minutes unlike last night. Having some young, motivated blood looking to impress can be seen as an advantage against a team trying to play spoiler.
Laine with the PPG to open the scoring!
This one could be a blowout.
Jets are just toying with the Habs here.
Mason is playing solid so far. He looks calm and comfortable, which is remarkable considering how much time he's missed.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 04, 2018, 12:44:28 AM
Mason is playing solid so far. He looks calm and comfortable, which is remarkable considering how much time he's missed.
He?s playing well but I?m not a fan of his positioning at times. Reminds me of Pavelec.
Aaaaand a repeat of last night. :-\
Niku gets his first NHL goal to put the Jets ahead after the Habs tied it up at 3!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 04, 2018, 01:59:20 AM
Niku gets his first NHL goal to put the Jets ahead after the Habs tied it up at 3!
Scores on his first nhl shot!!!
Mason needs to snag that.
No call on a high stick to Tanev???
Tie game.
Quote from: The Zipp on April 04, 2018, 02:11:01 AM
Mason needs to snag that.
No call on a high stick to Tanev???
What a ridiculous sequence. And of course the Habs tie it up with a slimy one.
And Connor gets his 30th on the OT winner!!!
Preds lost tonight....hmmmmmmm
This is a good win.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-jets-outdoors-viewing-celebration-1.4603478
Question if Niku could get into the flow of the game, nad yes, he got his flow into the game...
Habs were worried that we were trying to hurt their tanking efforts by resting everyone...
Conner gets his contract bonus for 30, does he have one for OT winners?
Quote from: The Zipp on April 04, 2018, 02:25:08 AM
Preds lost tonight....hmmmmmmm
Preds have the tiebreaker, right?
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 04, 2018, 12:51:48 PM
Preds have the tiebreaker, right?
Nashville won season series 3-2
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 04, 2018, 12:44:28 AM
Mason is playing solid so far. He looks calm and comfortable, which is remarkable considering how much time he's missed.
He fought the puck on some shots last night , leading to a greasy goal by the Habs. It's understandable, he's been out for a while. BIG drop off though between Helly and Comrie and Mason.
On 1290 this morning they mentioned Niku scores on his first NHL shot, just like Teppo Numminen did in 1986, but it looks like Numminen's rookie year was 1988. He had 1 goal in 69 games. Did he score on his first shot in '88 and not get another one all year? Apparently it was Joe Pascucci that dug that up. Something lost in translation here.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 04, 2018, 12:51:48 PM
Preds have the tiebreaker, right?
yah - we would have to win out and the preds lose out...highly unlikely that they will lose the next two...unless they are thinking they would rather play the Wild - but I don't think that comes into play at all.
it's nice to be close and just think there were a couple of stinkers that got away on the Jets over the season and had we won those could be in a spot for first in Division and Conference..
Could you imagine though, winning out, taking the President's Trophy and going into the playoffs on a 5 game winning streak while Nashville closes out their year losing a bunch at the end?
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 04, 2018, 02:57:09 AM
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-jets-outdoors-viewing-celebration-1.4603478
I think The Forks makes the most sense. If we ever made it to the SC Finals, though, I don't think anyone would be upset if we closed down P&M outright!
Another suggestion I have that's a little rogue- what about showing on a big screen at Shaw Park? People can be allowed on the field, or can choose to sit in the stands. Concessions there are great, too. Actually, if the Goldeyes took up that initiative in addition to a Forks party, that could be a huge revenue generator if they sold tickets for a few bucks a pop.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on April 04, 2018, 02:34:50 PM
On 1290 this morning they mentioned Niku scores on his first NHL shot, just like Teppo Numminen did in 1986, but it looks like Numminen's rookie year was 1988. He had 1 goal in 69 games. Did he score on his first shot in '88 and not get another one all year? Apparently it was Joe Pascucci that dug that up. Something lost in translation here.
Numminen did score his only goal of the 1988-89 season in game #1.
(https://pt63la.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m-atZon91gqZYILKF-EbjF9nm6Ep05IJ5QCEAJNhCBJ8lDgx5fyhEmyXuTNKhPYuS6-4G7Nm2VNdTnuGsw238laf1o85Pb7OgoMYvEjX6DTo388fnErel7tCoSDqxDZh_QJJx9wOfgZ_YkXB0BlURzn6rUOEAatzYVJhwN24z2dPi5zUpOvTNUcovgX7Uoq93BheLaKNQswAkDNnVVJD6yA?width=993&height=625&cropmode=none)
from http://curtiswalker.com/jets/ (http://curtiswalker.com/jets/)
Niku looked good. I'm betting he's a Jet all year next year. That will be quite the Finnish Force we'd be sending to Finland for our games next year from Finnipeg, eh?
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on April 04, 2018, 02:34:50 PM
On 1290 this morning they mentioned Niku scores on his first NHL shot, just like Teppo Numminen did in 1986, but it looks like Numminen's rookie year was 1988. He had 1 goal in 69 games. Did he score on his first shot in '88 and not get another one all year? Apparently it was Joe Pascucci that dug that up. Something lost in translation here.
Yeah it wasn't 86 it was 88, and yes he scored on his first shot and did not get another goal all year.
https://www.nhl.com/player/teppo-numminen-8449924?stats=gamelogs-r-nhl&season=19881989
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 04, 2018, 03:38:12 PM
Niku looked good. I'm betting he's a Jet all year next year. That will be quite the Finnish Force we'd be sending to Finland for our games next year from Finnipeg, eh?
Even if he dont make the big team next year we will bring him up for the games.
https://www.bardown.com/carey-price-explained-why-it-s-impossible-to-stop-patrik-laine-s-shot-at-times-1.1046501
Quote from: dd on April 04, 2018, 01:04:48 PM
He fought the puck on some shots last night , leading to a greasy goal by the Habs. It's understandable, he's been out for a while. BIG drop off though between Helly and Comrie and Mason.
Agreed. Jets needed to be better in their own end last night, which is something we saw them struggle with against the Senators the night previous. I guess that's to be expected with the roster changes and I imagine it's easy to lose focus in these meaningless games to close out the season.
Mason's sharpness seemed to dwindle as the game wore on, too.
would really like to see Roslovic, Sami Niko & Mason play vs the Flames. Let all the regulars play Saturday for Fan Appreciation night.
Quote from: Jockitch on April 04, 2018, 07:05:24 PM
would really like to see Roslovic, Sami Niko & Mason play vs the Flames. Let all the regulars play Saturday for Fan Appreciation night.
Pretty sure Maurice said all the starters will be playing the last 2 to get ready for the playoffs.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 04, 2018, 03:36:23 PM
I think The Forks makes the most sense. If we ever made it to the SC Finals, though, I don't think anyone would be upset if we closed down P&M outright!
Another suggestion I have that's a little rogue- what about showing on a big screen at Shaw Park? People can be allowed on the field, or can choose to sit in the stands. Concessions there are great, too. Actually, if the Goldeyes took up that initiative in addition to a Forks party, that could be a huge revenue generator if they sold tickets for a few bucks a pop.
Has anyone mentioned The Cube? I think the Jets showed the opener against the Leafs on a big screen set up there. Not sure how it went or if the area is big enough.
I rather go to the Forks than have them shut a street down.
The big screen at Shaw Park seemed a little pixelated the last time I was there. Not sure I'd what to see a hockey game on it, but a smaller temporary screen set up at a random location probably won't be much better.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on April 05, 2018, 02:42:29 PM
Has anyone mentioned The Cube? I think the Jets showed the opener against the Leafs on a big screen set up there. Not sure how it went or if the area is big enough.
I rather go to the Forks than have them shut a street down.
The big screen at Shaw Park seemed a little pixelated the last time I was there. Not sure I'd what to see a hockey game on it, but a smaller temporary screen set up at a random location probably won't be much better.
I feel the cube would be too small for the amount of fans that would probably show up to watch. A season opener is one thing but the finals would be out of control.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on April 05, 2018, 02:42:29 PM
Has anyone mentioned The Cube? I think the Jets showed the opener against the Leafs on a big screen set up there. Not sure how it went or if the area is big enough.
I rather go to the Forks than have them shut a street down.
The big screen at Shaw Park seemed a little pixelated the last time I was there. Not sure I'd what to see a hockey game on it, but a smaller temporary screen set up at a random location probably won't be much better.
This is what I was getting at. I watched Game 5 of the Leafs vs Bruins in the ACC square in 2013, and they had a massive, massive screen servicing thousands that worked out perfectly. A dinky projector and screen won't suffice, I agree, lol
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 04, 2018, 12:51:48 PM
Preds have the tiebreaker, right?
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 04, 2018, 01:00:05 PM
Nashville won season series 3-2
Are we sure about this? On the league's standings page at the bottom it lists head-to-head record as the third tie breaker after 1) Fewer number of games played and 2) Greater number of games won excluding shootout wins. It does mention if teams are "tied in points during the regular season" so that's why I'm confused. https://www.nhl.com/standings/2017/wildcard
If those apply once all is said and done, then we'd need to win both of our remaining games and have Nashville get only one point from their remaining two because we currently have 46 regulation or overtime wins to their 45.
Man, the playoffs can't get here fast enough...
Quote from: Stretch on April 05, 2018, 05:45:09 PM
Are we sure about this?
I'm not sure. That's why I asked.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 05, 2018, 05:54:21 PM
I'm not sure. That's why I asked.
I was referring to the head-to-head being the deciding tie breaker, not your initial question.
Sounds like everyones in tonight except Tanav
Connor ? Scheifele ? Wheeler
Laine ? Stastny ? Ehlers
Perreault ? Little ? Roslovic
Copp ? Lowry ? Armia
Morrissey ? Trouba
Chiarot ? Byfuglien
Morrow ? Myers
Hellebuyck
Mason
Healthy Scratches: Niku, Poolman, Dano, Tanev, Matthias
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 05, 2018, 08:14:29 PM
Connor ? Scheifele ? Wheeler
Laine ? Stastny ? Ehlers
Perreault ? Little ? Roslovic
Copp ? Lowry ? Armia
Morrissey ? Trouba
Chiarot ? Byfuglien
Morrow ? Myers
Hellebuyck
Mason
Healthy Scratches: Niku, Poolman, Dano, Tanev, Matthias
This is what I expect opening night of our playoffs to look like. I think we have to swap in/out Roslovic and Tanev though based on our opponent and how they/we are playing them.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 05, 2018, 08:23:26 PM
This is what I expect opening night of our playoffs to look like. I think we have to swap in/out Roslovic and Tanev though based on our opponent and how they/we are playing them.
will Enstrom be back for the start of the playoffs?
Quote from: The Zipp on April 05, 2018, 08:28:39 PM
will Enstrom be back for the start of the playoffs?
He?s supposed to be available. Whether he plays is another question.
Quote from: The Zipp on April 05, 2018, 08:28:39 PM
will Enstrom be back for the start of the playoffs?
I always forget about that guy. I guess it's because of all the injuries.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 05, 2018, 08:49:10 PM
I always forget about that guy. I guess it's because of all the injuries.
Its good sometimes when the younger guys play so good you forget about guys like Enstrom.
Roslovic started with Lowry & Copp Armia was with the usual Perrault & Little
Some changes in 2nd now.
Quote from: Jockitch on April 06, 2018, 01:08:09 AM
Roslovic started with Lowry & Copp Armia was with the usual Perrault & Little
Some changes in 2nd now.
Depth
Helley has stood tall tonight. 2 breakaway stops in the 1st period says it all. He's the reason for the big turnaround this year, Flames score on either of those, different game altogether.
HellB was the diff ........ nice win
Officially official: Jets will play the Wild in the first round.
https://www.tsn.ca/jets-wild-to-square-off-in-opening-round-1.1048456 (https://www.tsn.ca/jets-wild-to-square-off-in-opening-round-1.1048456)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 06, 2018, 12:58:37 PM
Officially official: Jets will play the Wild in the first round.
https://www.tsn.ca/jets-wild-to-square-off-in-opening-round-1.1048456 (https://www.tsn.ca/jets-wild-to-square-off-in-opening-round-1.1048456)
I think I'm happy about this.
They're a good team, but we've success against them this season. And the proximity should make for a (pardon the pun) wild environment at both rinks.
Trouba apparently took a pretty bad spill at practice today. :-[
Your #NHLJets wrap: Trouba tweaked his injury today, likely sitting out tomorrow, Comrie and Niku sent back to the #MBMoose, and Tanev is back in for tomorrow's game.
Quote from: The Zipp on April 06, 2018, 06:17:51 PM
Your #NHLJets wrap: Trouba tweaked his injury today, likely sitting out tomorrow, Comrie and Niku sent back to the #MBMoose, and Tanev is back in for tomorrow's game.
So I assume that means his ankle? Those high ankle sprains can really linger.
Maurice says @NHLJets Trouba is fine for Game 1 vs @mnwild.
Will decide tomorrow if he plays vs @NHLBlackhawks or not.
@TSN1290Radio @TSNHockey
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 06, 2018, 06:21:02 PM
Maurice says @NHLJets Trouba is fine for Game 1 vs @mnwild.
Will decide tomorrow if he plays vs @NHLBlackhawks or not.
@TSN1290Radio @TSNHockey
Thank goodness.
Details coming at 2:00 on a #WPGWhiteout #NHLJets playoff street party. @TourismWPG, the city and True North making the announcement.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 06, 2018, 06:21:02 PM
Maurice says @NHLJets Trouba is fine for Game 1 vs @mnwild.
Will decide tomorrow if he plays vs @NHLBlackhawks or not.
@TSN1290Radio @TSNHockey
*resumes breathing and normal B/P.
I wonder how the Wild fans are coming to terms with Suter being sidelined for the rest of the season...
Wild in six games.
Kevin Donnelly with True North Sports and Entertainment says he?s inviting @SnoopDogg to perform at the Winnipeg Jets whiteout street party.
Quote from: True Blue on April 06, 2018, 08:39:32 PM
Whaa??? Based on what?
Jets playoff history from the past.
I would also like to add a couple more reasons, #1. I don't think the jets coach has what it takes to make it to a cup final....An #2. I don't think Bettman and the league will ever allow the cup to land in Wpg, I see some iffy penalties being called against the jets if they get anywhere near winning a series.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 06, 2018, 08:43:39 PM
Jets playoff history from the past.
Which is totally relevant now.
- Nobody Ever
Quote from: True Blue on April 06, 2018, 08:39:32 PM
Whaa??? Based on what?
Wild are a good team - anything can happen in the playoffs. The jets should be favored based on record and that Suter is injured, but they do have some recent playoff experience and some great players.
This series could go either way in 6 or 7 games
Quote from: The Zipp on April 06, 2018, 08:45:24 PM
Wild are a good team - anything can happen in the playoffs. The jets should be favored based on record and that Suter is injured, but they do have some recent playoff experience and some great players.
This series could go either way in 6 or 7 games
I'll be bullish. Jets in 5.
Spurgeon is also out and continues to recover from a partially torn hamstring. Both he and Suter are key pieces on the Wild's blue line. Boudreau has stated he (Spurgeon) should be ready for the playoffs, but who knows. That's a tough injury.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on April 06, 2018, 08:49:13 PM
I'll be bullish. Jets in 5.
Bold! I like it. ;D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 06, 2018, 08:53:47 PM
Spurgeon is also out and continues to recover from a partially torn hamstring. Both he and Suter are key pieces on the Wild's blue line. Boudreau has stated he (Spurgeon) should be ready for the playoffs, but who knows. That's a tough injury.
Bold! I like it. ;D
I thought Spurgeon was very, very close to returning.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 06, 2018, 08:44:39 PM
Which is totally relevant now.
- Nobody Ever
Where are the rules for making sports predictions.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 06, 2018, 07:42:10 PM
Kevin Donnelly with True North Sports and Entertainment says he?s inviting @SnoopDogg to perform at the Winnipeg Jets whiteout street party.
oh man I?m so there I?d that happens! The sschnizzle fazizzle
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on April 06, 2018, 10:29:08 PM
oh man I?m so there I?d that happens! The sschnizzle fazizzle
Will the fans at the rink bring back the whiteout ?...or are they gonna stick with the glum blue look on the television ?.....I'm thinking another whiteout playoff series in the peg would be super cool to see again
An wouldn't Harlequin be a bigger draw in Winnipeg ? Lol
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 06, 2018, 08:43:39 PM
Jets playoff history from the past.
I would also like to add a couple more reasons, #1. I don't think the jets coach has what it takes to make it to a cup final....An #2. I don't think Bettman and the league will ever allow the cup to land in Wpg, I see some iffy penalties being called against the jets if they get anywhere near winning a series.
Yup... so much of this team is left over from the last time they were in the playoffs... so history is a big factor... not!
Quote from: theaardvark on April 06, 2018, 11:21:25 PM
Yup... so much of this team is left over from the last time they were in the playoffs... so history is a big factor... not!
If the jets don't make it out of the first round you will be hearing the commentators on tv talking about the last time as well.......jus sayin. If the jets don't clear the first round somebody needs to figure out the curse.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 06, 2018, 11:19:08 PM
Will the fans at the rink bring back the whiteout ?...or are they gonna stick with the glum blue look on the television ?.....I'm thinking another whiteout playoff series in the peg would be super cool to see again
An wouldn't Harlequin be a bigger draw in Winnipeg ? Lol
Yes the whiteout will be back.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 07, 2018, 12:27:26 AM
Yes the whiteout will be back.
Nice....I will spread the word, any old fans don't wanna miss watching that again
Quote from: The Zipp on April 06, 2018, 08:45:24 PM
Wild are a good team - anything can happen in the playoffs. The jets should be favored based on record and that Suter is injured, but they do have some recent playoff experience and some great players.
This series could go either way in 6 or 7 games
That would a complete collapse and failure of the season if Minny won.
With Spurgeon and Suter out... our home ice advantage, and us being 9-1-0 in the last 10 and a 4 game winning streak, and they are 4-2-4 with a 2 game losing streak...
I like our chances...
Quote from: theaardvark on April 07, 2018, 02:23:38 AM
With Spurgeon and Suter out... our home ice advantage, and us being 9-1-0 in the last 10 and a 4 game winning streak, and they are 4-2-4 with a 2 game losing streak...
I like our chances...
That is all history now. Now the real season starts.
Quote from: True Blue on April 07, 2018, 01:56:12 AM
That would a complete collapse and failure of the season if Minny won.
As it stands right now minny has only lost 6 more games than us - that isn?t a huge margin. They are not slouches by any means. It?s a huge cliche but once the playoffs start the regular season means nothing.
Do I think the jets have more talent ? Yes I do - but that doesn?t always guarantee a win. Last year Minnesota finished in 2nd and lost to the Blues in the first round.
Quote from: The Zipp on April 07, 2018, 04:25:43 AM
As it stands right now minny has only lost 6 more games than us - that isn?t a huge margin. They are not slouches by any means. It?s a huge cliche but once the playoffs start the regular season means nothing.
Do I think the jets have more talent ? Yes I do - but that doesn?t always guarantee a win. Last year Minnesota finished in 2nd and lost to the Blues in the first round.
This is going to be fun
xpected lineup:
Connor ? Scheifele ? Wheeler
Laine ? Stastny ? Ehlers
Perreault ? Little ? Armia
Copp ? Lowry ? Tanev
Morrissey ? Myers
Morrow ? Byfuglien
Chiarot ? Poolman
Hellebuyck
Mason
Healthy Scratches: Roslovic, Dano, Matthias
There is a fan initiated push to encourage all fans attending tonight?s game to wear green in support of the Humboldt Broncos. The Jets, Blackhawks and NHL are each adding $25,000 to the 50/50 with the proceeds being given to the team. Also the players on both teams will be wearing the name Broncos on the jerseys instead of their own names. I can?t imagine there will be a dry eye in the arena during the moment of silence. So heartbreaking!
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 07, 2018, 03:56:36 PM
xpected lineup:
Connor ? Scheifele ? Wheeler
Laine ? Stastny ? Ehlers
Perreault ? Little ? Armia
Copp ? Lowry ? Tanev
Morrissey ? Myers
Morrow ? Byfuglien
Chiarot ? Poolman
Hellebuyck
Mason
Healthy Scratches: Roslovic, Dano, Matthias
Zero need to play Hellbuyck...he gets hurt and playoffs are done. He isn?t going to suddenly get rusty.
Quote from: The Zipp on April 07, 2018, 09:30:04 PM
Zero need to play Hellbuyck...he gets hurt and playoffs are done. He isn?t going to suddenly get rusty.
If he gets hurt in game 1, 2, 3 4... of the playoffs we're done too...
If he wants to play, let him play. Buff and Lowry are out there to protect him... if Chicago decides they want to take any liberties...
He is chasing the most wins in a season for a US born goalie... and who knows what bonuses are in his contract...
As to rust... first game is when? Wed? That would be 6 days since he last played... or 3 if he plays tonite.. keep him in the groove.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 07, 2018, 10:02:10 PM
If he gets hurt in game 1, 2, 3 4... of the playoffs we're done too...
If he wants to play, let him play. Buff and Lowry are out there to protect him... if Chicago decides they want to take any liberties...
He is chasing the most wins in a season for a US born goalie... and who knows what bonuses are in his contract...
As to rust... first game is when? Wed? That would be 6 days since he last played... or 3 if he plays tonite.. keep him in the groove.
Goalies can get hurt on any play - not just a team running them - if he gets hurt in the playoffs that?s bad luck - he gets hurt tonight, it?s bad coaching and avoidable.
Never even heard of this ?US Born goalie? record...team is bigger than any individual record.
Silly move
Quote from: The Zipp on April 07, 2018, 10:10:29 PM
Goalies can get hurt on any play - not just a team running them - if he gets hurt in the playoffs that?s bad luck - he gets hurt tonight, it?s bad coaching and avoidable.
Never even heard of this ?US Born goalie? record...team is bigger than any individual record.
Silly move
Im not sure any team sat their regs. Maurice said last week that the last 2 games would be the regs to get tuned up.
Quote from: The Zipp on April 07, 2018, 10:10:29 PM
Goalies can get hurt on any play - not just a team running them - if he gets hurt in the playoffs that?s bad luck - he gets hurt tonight, it?s bad coaching and avoidable.
Never even heard of this ?US Born goalie? record...team is bigger than any individual record.
Silly move
So, we should sit Hellebuyck un game one and two as well, then. At home, we should win them easily, and even if we lose two, we still can win 4 of 5 with Hellebuyck...
When you take your foot off and coast is when you get injured. When you are not sharp and in the game, you get injured. Sitting Hellebuyck tells the rest of the team to coast. Might save Bucky a small percentage chance of injury, but it opens up 18 other guys to it.
You play your game one starting lineup in game 82, unless a player is legit hurt/banged up and can benefit from a day off.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 08, 2018, 03:48:28 PM
So, we should sit Hellebuyck un game one and two as well, then. At home, we should win them easily, and even if we lose two, we still can win 4 of 5 with Hellebuyck...
When you take your foot off and coast is when you get injured. When you are not sharp and in the game, you get injured. Sitting Hellebuyck tells the rest of the team to coast. Might save Bucky a small percentage chance of injury, but it opens up 18 other guys to it.
You play your game one starting lineup in game 82, unless a player is legit hurt/banged up and can benefit from a day off.
Now you are just being silly - you don?t rest players in a playoff...not even the same as meaningless regular season game. Maurice gambled and won - took a risk and it paid off.
Who wins the tie breaker between Winnipeg and Boston if they win?
Quote from: The Zipp on April 08, 2018, 04:27:55 PM
Now you are just being silly - you don?t rest players in a playoff...not even the same as meaningless regular season game. Maurice gambled and won - took a risk and it paid off.
Who wins the tie breaker between Winnipeg and Boston if they win?
All playoff teams played their startes dude. Unless the player has a small tweek. Like Trouba.
Quote from: The Zipp on April 08, 2018, 04:27:55 PM
Maurice gambled and won - took a risk and it paid off.
Who wins the tie breaker between Winnipeg and Boston if they win?
I suppose by that logic, Babcock, Trotz, Boudreau, and Stevens all did the same yesterday.
And why does that tie breaker matter?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 08, 2018, 11:29:23 PM
I suppose by that logic, Babcock, Trotz, Boudreau, and Stevens all did the same yesterday.
And why does that tie breaker matter?
Probably only matters if we meet Boston in the Stanley Cup finals, winner would get home ice advantage.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 08, 2018, 11:41:30 PM
Probably only matters if we meet Boston in the Stanley Cup finals, winner would get home ice advantage.
That is correct
All playoff teams played their startes dude. Unless the player has a small tweek. Like Trouba.
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Columbus sat out 9 regulars in their last game.
Quote from: Jockitch on April 09, 2018, 12:19:10 AM
All playoff teams played their startes dude. Unless the player has a small tweek. Like Trouba.
Columbus sat out 9 regulars in their last game.
Holy thats messed up. What other teams did?
Most of what i watched yesterday had the regs in.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 08, 2018, 11:41:30 PM
Probably only matters if we meet Boston in the Stanley Cup finals, winner would get home ice advantage.
Ah, okay. Interesting question when you look at the tiebreaker rules:
1. PPG %
2. ROW (regular/overtime wins)
3. points earned in the season series
4. GF/GA differential
If I understand the format correctly, and with the Bruins playing tonight, they would have to win in regulation by two or more goals to take second place overall. If the Bruins win in regulation by a single goal or win in overtime, they tie with the Jets for second. If the Bruins win in a SO, they finish third overall.
UPDATE: Bruins lost, so the Jets finish second overall. Home ice advantage in every situation except if they were to face the Predators in the second round.
Wow.
2nd in the league.
Chevy is going to hate drafting that low ;). Oh well.
So, every series to only 5 games, 6 games if we face the preds. 3 home games per series...
Got tickets to game 1 on Wednesday! Whiteout!!!!!!!
Honestly, I hope this series goes to game 5 or 6. If the Jets win, I don?t want them sitting idle for too long waiting for other series to wrap up. I?m starting to get more nervous about playing Min. It should be a tight series. Bring on the whiteout!
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 09, 2018, 11:51:58 AM
Honestly, I hope this series goes to game 5 or 6. If the Jets win, I don?t want them sitting idle for too long waiting for other series to wrap up. I?m starting to get more nervous about playing Min. It should be a tight series. Bring on the whiteout!
Yes, my one concern is all the young guys we have and their lack of playoff experience. It's really a different game in the playoffs.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 09, 2018, 11:51:58 AM
Honestly, I hope this series goes to game 5 or 6. If the Jets win, I don?t want them sitting idle for too long waiting for other series to wrap up. I?m starting to get more nervous about playing Min. It should be a tight series. Bring on the whiteout!
That's you your biggest worry?? I am just sick about them losing this first round If we can sweep them (which I don't think will happen) it will be great. Less playoff style pounding on the bodies. I think this is going to be a really tough series.
I have a feeling we will all be hating the name "Parise" by the time the next couple of weeks are over.
Quote from: The Zipp on April 09, 2018, 01:25:52 PM
That's you your biggest worry?? I am just sick about them losing this first round If we can sweep them (which I don't think will happen) it will be great. Less playoff style pounding on the bodies. I think this is going to be a really tough series.
I have a feeling we will all be hating the name "Parise" by the time the next couple of weeks are over.
Is he still in the NHL?
Quote from: The Zipp on April 09, 2018, 01:25:52 PM
That's you your biggest worry?? I am just sick about them losing this first round If we can sweep them (which I don't think will happen) it will be great. Less playoff style pounding on the bodies. I think this is going to be a really tough series.
I have a feeling we will all be hating the name "Parise" by the time the next couple of weeks are over.
My expectation is 5 or 6 games. I can't see a sweep happening.
And my bigger concern is Staal. He's hands down the Wild's MVP this season.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 09, 2018, 01:27:36 PM
My expectation is 5 or 6 games. I can't see a sweep happening.
And my bigger concern is Staal. He's hands down the Wild's MVP this season.
One of the best free agent signings in recent memory.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 09, 2018, 01:26:50 PM
Is he still in the NHL?
seems like the type of player that will have a sleepy season then in the playoffs come alive with a couple of timely game winning goals.
Quote from: The Zipp on April 09, 2018, 01:31:08 PM
seems like the type of player that will have a sleepy season then in the playoffs come alive with a couple of timely game winning goals.
He used to be a great player before he signed that massive contract. Now I never seem to hear his name anymore.
I'm also concerned about Trouba. I'm not convinced he's fine and will be ready to go game 1.
Quote from: The Zipp on April 09, 2018, 01:31:08 PM
seems like the type of player that will have a sleepy season then in the playoffs come alive with a couple of timely game winning goals.
Maybe if we rewind to a few years ago. His best days are behind him, IMO. He was pretty ineffective last year.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 09, 2018, 01:46:07 PM
Maybe if we rewind to a few years ago. His best days are behind him, IMO. He was pretty ineffective last year.
Zach Parise was never the same player with the Wild as he was with Jersey.
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 09, 2018, 01:53:16 PM
Zach Parise was never the same player with the Wild as he was with Jersey.
Yep, and he's still got 7 years at $7.5 million per season left on that contract, after this season :o
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 09, 2018, 02:09:06 PM
Yep, and he's still got 7 years at $7.5 million per season left on that contract, after this season :o
One of the worst NHL contracts in recent memory besides Rick DiPietro.
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 09, 2018, 02:14:32 PM
One of the worst NHL contracts in recent memory besides Rick DiPietro.
Andrew Ladd's current contract is up there too.
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 09, 2018, 01:53:16 PM
Zach Parise was never the same player with the Wild as he was with Jersey.
I agree. Probably a tough adjustment to go from playing with Kovalchuk, Zajac, and Henrique to Koivu, Coyle, and Pominville.
Anyway, some interesting predictions for the playoffs: http://moneypuck.com/predictions.htm (http://moneypuck.com/predictions.htm)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 09, 2018, 03:06:03 PM
Anyway, some interesting predictions for the playoffs: http://moneypuck.com/predictions.htm (http://moneypuck.com/predictions.htm)
So, we have statistically the best chance at winning the cup! I know the whiteout will be fun, but given this new data, maybe we shouldn't bother playing the games and they can just hand over the cup now!
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Soucy officially recalled. Very likely second pair D to start series for #mnwild
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Soucy officially recalled. Very likely second pair D to start series for #mnwild
Does that mean Spurgeon is out?
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 09, 2018, 03:20:42 PM
Does that mean Spurgeon is out?
maybe not quite ready for game 1 or 2?? not sure
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 09, 2018, 03:12:46 PM
So, we have statistically the best chance at winning the cup! I know the whiteout will be fun, but given this new data, maybe we shouldn't bother playing the games and they can just hand over the cup now!
LOL :D
The numbers look nice and all and going 9-1 in their last 10 certainly helps their cause, but it's time for the team to show if those numbers actually bear out. The Wild will be a good test and a solid opponent.
Quote from: The Zipp on April 09, 2018, 03:26:13 PM
maybe not quite ready for game 1 or 2?? not sure
video on @russohockey has Spurgeon out on the ice before practice...
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#NHLJets are on the ice preparing for first-round match-up with #mnwild D Jacob Trouba is out there, D Toby Enstrom is not. F Matt Hendricks is in a non-contact jersey
#mnwild practice lines in 1st prep for #nhljets series:
Zucker-Staal-Niederreiter
Parise-Koivu-Granlund
Greenway/Ennis-Cullen-Coyle
Foligno-Eriksson Ek-Winnik
#mnwikd D pairs in 1st prep for #nhljets series:
Brodin-Dumba
Soucy-Spurgeon
Seeler-Prosser
Extras
Olofsson-Murphy
Belpedio
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#NHLJets are on the ice preparing for first-round match-up with #mnwild D Jacob Trouba is out there, D Toby Enstrom is not. F Matt Hendricks is in a non-contact jersey
Nice to see Trouba is back.
sportsnet's broadcast teams:
BOS-TOR: jim hughson, craig simpson
PIT-PHI: rick ball, greg millen
WPG-MIN: paul romanuk, garry galley, cassie campbell
VGK-LA: dave randorf, louie debrusk
the rest of the first-round games will simulcast NBC's coverage
I can live with the assigned crew....i prefer Romanuk to Hughson but that is just a personal preference.
The Jets will need to rely heavily on their speed and solid forechecking to be successful in this opening series.
No lazy skating allowed at this point.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 09, 2018, 04:40:38 PM
The Jets will need to rely heavily on their speed and solid forechecking to be successful in this opening series.
No lazy skating allowed at this point.
I agree.
Speed, forchecking and hitting.
Pretty much do what the Ducks did to us a few years ago. Play a heavy fast game and never let up.
Quote from: The Zipp on April 09, 2018, 04:36:52 PM
sportsnet's broadcast teams:
BOS-TOR: jim hughson, craig simpson
PIT-PHI: rick ball, greg millen
WPG-MIN: paul romanuk, garry galley, cassie campbell
VGK-LA: dave randorf, louie debrusk
the rest of the first-round games will simulcast NBC's coverage
I can live with the assigned crew....i prefer Romanuk to Hughson but that is just a personal preference.
If it can't be our TSN crew I'm "okay" with this crew. I can't stand Randorf! Sportsnet from here on out...Ugh. Wonder if the Jets will ever make it to CBC? So ridiculous.
Quote from: The Zipp on April 09, 2018, 04:36:52 PM
sportsnet's broadcast teams:
BOS-TOR: jim hughson, craig simpson
PIT-PHI: rick ball, greg millen
WPG-MIN: paul romanuk, garry galley, cassie campbell
VGK-LA: dave randorf, louie debrusk
the rest of the first-round games will simulcast NBC's coverage
I can live with the assigned crew....i prefer Romanuk to Hughson but that is just a personal preference.
Roamnuk is not very good. No surprise Toronto gets Hughson...he's one of the best in the business.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 09, 2018, 04:43:49 PM
I agree.
Speed, forchecking and hitting.
Pretty much do what the Ducks did to us a few years ago. Play a heavy fast game and never let up.
This. And I feel like the last few games they haven't played like this. Hopefully that was all about saving things up for the playoff series. And stay out of penalty trouble too!
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 09, 2018, 04:49:18 PM
This. And I feel like the last few games they haven't played like this. Hopefully that was all about saving things up for the playoff series. And stay out of penalty trouble too!
I think the speed and forchecking was on point for the most part the last few games. IMO where they let up was the relentless hitting and finishing checks. This was prolly done so there is no injurys.
Awesome results for the efforts of PM & his staff ....... CONGRATS !! If Gallant & Vegas didn't have such a miracle year then I think PM may have won the Coach of the Year.
The savvy that the top 2 lines have in Wild colours will certainly make it tough for the Jets top 2 lines.
If those savvy vets seal off the boards & the pass to get out of our end then we need Myers, Buff, Morrissey & Trouba to be smart & fleet of foot. However .....
..... believe our bottom 6 flyers & muckers, will be critical to the success ....... the lines of Little & Lowry have to put the puck in when they create their chances.
Dubnyk, big & great positionally set, & HellB, can't say enough, are a saw off to me. Both can be extremely tough to beat on any given night.
Wild may win the 1st game but I'll call the Jets in 6 games.
(http://thezebra.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/caddies.jpg)
Masters Caddies are all welcome to root for Winnipeg and come party with us...
Is snoop dogg still coming to Winnipeg for the whiteout?
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 10, 2018, 05:00:26 PM
Is snoop dogg still coming to Winnipeg for the whiteout?
He was invited by the organizers of the Whiteout Street Party but I don't ever recall seeing him accept said invitation (as wicked as that would be).
If snoop can't make it I'm sure harlequin would step up....
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 10, 2018, 05:00:26 PM
Is snoop dogg still coming to Winnipeg for the whiteout?
Why would he?
Would be kinda kool tho.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 10, 2018, 05:41:08 PM
Why would he?
Because the Jets invited him, and he tweeted that he's a big Jets fan.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 10, 2018, 05:43:52 PM
Because the Jets invited him, and he tweeted that he's a big Jets fan.
He tweeted that to 6 teams. Not just the Jets.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 10, 2018, 05:56:04 PM
He tweeted that to 6 teams. Not just the Jets.
Did you ignore what I said about the Jets also inviting him?
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 10, 2018, 05:57:15 PM
Did you ignore what I said about the Jets also inviting him?
Yes i seen that. I wonder if the other 6 teams did also.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 10, 2018, 05:43:52 PM
Because the Jets invited him, and he tweeted that he's a big Jets fan.
He did? When was that?
He recently congratulated the Jets on making the playoffs but that was tweeted by the NHL. He did similar videos for a few other teams making the playoffs, too.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 10, 2018, 05:58:16 PM
Yes i seen that. I wonder if the other 6 teams did also.
I have no idea. Maybe you should look into it.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 10, 2018, 05:58:42 PM
He did? When was that?
He recently congratulated the Jets on making the playoffs but that was tweeted by the NHL. He did similar videos for a few other teams making the playoffs, too.
I'm just going by his tweet that I briefly saw. I'm not as into it as you guys obviously are...
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 10, 2018, 06:03:55 PM
I'm just going by his tweet that I briefly saw. I'm not as into it as you guys obviously are...
Wasent his tweet it was from the NHL i beleive and he did it for 6 other teams,
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 10, 2018, 06:06:15 PM
Wasent his tweet it was from the NHL i beleive and he did it for 6 other teams,
I did not know that. The Winnipeg media made a big deal out of it a week ago on twitter, so I just assumed there was a chance he was coming here.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 10, 2018, 06:08:13 PM
I did not know that. The Winnipeg media made a big deal out of it a week ago on twitter, so I just assumed there was a chance he was coming here.
Well he is a Hockey fan so theres that. But i figured out it wasent just for the Jets when i seen he had a NHL jersey on and not a Jets jersey.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 10, 2018, 06:03:55 PM
I'm just going by his tweet that I briefly saw. I'm not as into it as you guys obviously are...
Unless he deleted it, there's no such tweet. The local media apparently made a big deal out of him congratulating the Jets' post-season berth but that's about it: https://globalnews.ca/news/4127365/snoop-dogg-catches-winnipeg-jets-playoff-fever/ (https://globalnews.ca/news/4127365/snoop-dogg-catches-winnipeg-jets-playoff-fever/)
In any event, I'd love to see him surprise us all and show up here tomorrow at the Whiteout Street Party.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 10, 2018, 06:56:47 PM
Unless he deleted it, there's no such tweet. The local media apparently made a big deal out of him congratulating the Jets' post-season berth but that's about it: https://globalnews.ca/news/4127365/snoop-dogg-catches-winnipeg-jets-playoff-fever/ (https://globalnews.ca/news/4127365/snoop-dogg-catches-winnipeg-jets-playoff-fever/)
In any event, I'd love to see him surprise us all and show up here tomorrow at the Whiteout Street Party.
Could have sworn I saw a tweet. Maybe someone embedded what he said into a tweet of their own.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 10, 2018, 06:56:47 PM
Unless he deleted it, there's no such tweet. The local media apparently made a big deal out of him congratulating the Jets' post-season berth but that's about it: https://globalnews.ca/news/4127365/snoop-dogg-catches-winnipeg-jets-playoff-fever/ (https://globalnews.ca/news/4127365/snoop-dogg-catches-winnipeg-jets-playoff-fever/)
In any event, I'd love to see him surprise us all and show up here tomorrow at the Whiteout Street Party.
Just checked and there are tweets, from WinnipegNow and CTV News Winnipeg, but it?s them embedding Snoop?s congratulations to the Jets into a tweet of their own.
He gave a shout out to the Jets on social media a few days ago, but never actually commented on coming to Winnipeg.
On a side note, Snoop was pretty entertaining on Kimmel last night.... was a little surprised when he referred to Trump as "the devil" :D :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcVTImeEGqs
Comment at 1:50
Another tweet I posted here a while ago:
Kevin Donnelly with True North Sports and Entertainment says he?s inviting @SnoopDogg to perform at the Winnipeg Jets whiteout street party.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 10, 2018, 08:29:15 PM
Another tweet I posted here a while ago:
Kevin Donnelly with True North Sports and Entertainment says he?s inviting @SnoopDogg to perform at the Winnipeg Jets whiteout street party.
Wonder if Donnelly has a dumptruck of weed.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 10, 2018, 08:52:01 PM
Wonder if Donnelly has a dumptruck of weed.
I am sure that would be unnecessary. I would bet Snoop has enough to support his habitt without help from Donnelly :D ;)
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 10, 2018, 09:24:07 PM
I am sure that would be unnecessary. I would bet Snoop has enough to support his habitt without help from Donnelly :D ;)
He can't bring it across the border legally.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 10, 2018, 09:24:59 PM
He can't bring it across the border legally.
Maybe he can hire Duron Carter to bring it across for him?
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on April 10, 2018, 09:57:36 PM
Maybe he can hire Duron Carter to bring it across for him?
Carter only deals in cookies. Lol
I got a bag for Snoop if he needs.
Spurgeon hasn?t been told he?s not cleared, so he assumes he?s good to go. He said everything went well with tests at docs #mnwild
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 10, 2018, 10:18:21 PM
Spurgeon hasn?t been told he?s not cleared, so he assumes he?s good to go. He said everything went well with tests at docs #mnwild
He practiced today i read.
GAME DAY!!
Go Jets Go!!
Jamie Phillips called up to the big club this morning. He'll serve as the third goalie for the playoffs.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 11, 2018, 03:22:50 PM
Jamie Phillips called up to the big club this morning. He'll serve as the third goalie for the playoffs.
Where's Eric Comrie? Hutch still in concussion protocol?
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 11, 2018, 03:27:55 PM
Where's Eric Comrie? Hutch still in concussion protocol?
is it that they don't want to impact the Moose playoffs by having a goalie sit on the bench with the Jets?? If Helle goes down (shudder) and then Mason (shudder) I suspect it would be Hutch or Comrie going in and not this other dude...
Quote from: The Zipp on April 11, 2018, 03:31:39 PM
is it that they don't want to impact the Moose playoffs by having a goalie sit on the bench with the Jets?? If Helle goes down (shudder) and then Mason (shudder) I suspect it would be Hutch or Comrie going in and not this other dude...
That makes sense. So Phillips is only there in case both Helle and Mason both got injured in the same game.
Are roster sizes expanded for the playoffs?
I watched Jets TV this morning and they said Phillips was only called up to particapate in this mornings practice because they wanted 2 goalies on the ice and Helly dont skate on game days.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 11, 2018, 03:27:55 PM
Where's Eric Comrie? Hutch still in concussion protocol?
Comrie and Hutchinson are needed for the Moose playoff run. Phillips is deep enough on the depth chart where moving him up or down has little impact on the Moose.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 11, 2018, 03:57:13 PM
I watched Jets TV this morning and they said Phillips was only called up to particapate in this mornings practice because they wanted 2 goalies on the ice and Helly dont skate on game days.
That also makes sense.
It's here!!!!! Whoo whiteout!!!!!
Hellebuyck shouldn't be skating between games, right? So they need another target... HUtch and COmrie are needed for the Moose run. And it gives Phillips the opportunity to be involved in playoff hockey, if only in the pressbox...
Quote from: theaardvark on April 11, 2018, 08:44:25 PM
Hellebuyck shouldn't be skating between games, right? So they need another target... HUtch and COmrie are needed for the Moose run. And it gives Phillips the opportunity to be involved in playoff hockey, if only in the pressbox...
Im not sure he will even stay up. The Jets are pretty much done practicing for the year.
If something happeneds to Helly or Mason Hutch will be called up.
FANTASTIC time to be a JETS fan .............
WHITEOUT HOT
Few minutes in and I think the crowd is tired already. Not as loud as I would have thought.
Not impressed with this crowd so far. Get on your feet and cheer!!!
Hopefully Lowry will be back...he was beast in the back half of that period
Quote from: The Zipp on April 11, 2018, 11:57:46 PM
Not impressed with this crowd so far. Get on your feet and cheer!!!
Hopefully Lowry will be back...he was beast in the back half of that period
Really?
They dont just cheer non stop.
Quote from: The Zipp on April 11, 2018, 11:57:46 PM
Not impressed with this crowd so far. Get on your feet and cheer!!!
Hopefully Lowry will be back...he was beast in the back half of that period
I?m at the game and crowd is awesome. What are you talking about?
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 12, 2018, 12:03:20 AM
Really?
They dont just cheer non stop.
They could be doing more IMO. no different than a regular season game - should be amped up..
Quote from: The Zipp on April 12, 2018, 12:06:27 AM
They could be doing more IMO. no different than a regular season game - should be amped up..
I?ve been to many regular season games and this is MUCH louder.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 12, 2018, 12:08:31 AM
I?ve been to many regular season games and this is MUCH louder.
Good. It certainly showed it at the start of the game on tv. Looked quieter about 10 minutes in.
Quote from: The Zipp on April 12, 2018, 12:13:05 AM
Good. It certainly showed it at the start of the game on tv. Looked quieter about 10 minutes in.
Its way louder. Im not sure what your talking about.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 12, 2018, 12:26:39 AM
Its way louder. Im not sure what your talking about.
There hasn?t been one go jets go chant this period. Even the commentators said the crowd was taken out of the game.
With Scheifele?s goal my anxiety has gone down a bit. Win the third period and we win game 1. Let?s go Jets!!!!
Scratch that- anxiety is back :-\
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 12, 2018, 01:14:03 AM
Scratch that- anxiety is back :-\
All smiles now!! Heart rate is coming back down. JETS WIN!! So pumped up! They once again found a way to win. Hopefully they got rid of the jitters and will be more dominant on Friday.
What a crowd on Donald street too. I wasn?t expecting that large of a crowd for game one. Friday will be more.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 12, 2018, 02:23:28 AM
All smiles now!! Heart rate is coming back down. JETS WIN!! So pumped up! They once again found a way to win. Hopefully they got rid of the jitters and will be more dominant on Friday.
What a crowd on Donald street too. I wasn?t expecting that large of a crowd for game one. Friday will be more.
They seem to understand they can always win.
What a game!!! There was a bit of a lull in the second period, but the third was electric. There was a wave going on in the crowd late third period.
Wow....the wave....crazy man.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 12, 2018, 05:18:41 AM
Wow....the wave....crazy man.
So are you cheering for the Atlanta Jets/Winnipeg Thrashers or just showing up with a comment here and there?
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 12, 2018, 03:04:44 AM
They seem to understand they can always win.
I think it was Wheeler who alluded to that after the game last night. Even when the Wild took a 2-1 lead, he said the team was calm and just kept playing its game. If anything, the Parise goal got the Jets back on track; they were too loose early in the third and it cost them.
Great game last night and an even greater win. Huge confidence builder for a team who has played confidently for a while now. Tomorrow should be bonkers.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 12, 2018, 01:30:17 PM
I think it was Wheeler who alluded to that after the game last night. Even when the Wild took a 2-1 lead, he said the team was calm and just kept playing its game. If anything, the Parise goal got the Jets back on track; they were too loose early in the third and it cost them.
Great game last night and an even greater win. Huge confidence builder for a team who has played confidently for a while now. Tomorrow should be bonkers.
Maurice addressed that too after the game...that if we had gone down 2-1 in the 2015 playoffs, it would have been crushing. But this team has the mental toughness and confidence that if they get down a goal or two, they will still win, because they have such a great offense, and don't need to change their game in those situations.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 12, 2018, 01:39:06 PM
Maurice addressed that too after the game...that if we had gone down 2-1 in the 2015 playoffs, it would have been crushing. But this team has the mental toughness and confidence that if they get down a goal or two, they will still win, because they have such a great offense, and don't need to change their game in those situations.
Totally different team between then and now. And it was on display last night as they secured the win. Honestly, if not Dubynk standing on his head through 40 mins., that's probably a much different game going into the third.
Was a little surprised that we outshot the Wild 40-20 last night until I read that the Wild are 26th in the league this year in total shots. A little surprising considering they had the 11th most goals in the league.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 12, 2018, 01:56:15 PM
Totally different team between then and now. And it was on display last night as they secured the win. Honestly, if not Dubynk standing on his head through 40 mins., that's probably a much different game going into the third.
Yep Dubnyk played great. Was super funny at the game after he let in the third goal, all the fans were chanting ?Dubnyk...Dubnyk...Dubnyk?. :D
Anyone go to the street party?
I was thinking about taking my son on Friday, but it looked pretty packed there.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on April 12, 2018, 02:26:50 PM
Anyone go to the street party?
I was thinking about taking my son on Friday, but it looked pretty packed there.
I heard it was crazy.... I seen on TV some young kids there.... looked no older than 5 or 6. I guess it would depend on how old your son is and how well he can tolerate close spaces and loud noise.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 12, 2018, 01:06:37 PM
So are you cheering for the Atlanta Jets/Winnipeg Thrashers or just showing up with a comment here and there?
shouldn't it be the "Atlanta flames/Calgary flames/Atlanta jets/ Winnipeg Jets ?
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on April 12, 2018, 02:26:50 PM
Anyone go to the street party?
I was thinking about taking my son on Friday, but it looked pretty packed there.
I went to the street party before and after the game. Atmosphere was awesome. Lots of people dancing after the game. Not sure it?d be a good place for young kids though. They sell alcohol there at the street party. How old is your son?
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 12, 2018, 03:22:52 PM
shouldn't it be the "Atlanta flames/Calgary flames/Atlanta jets/ Winnipeg Jets ?
I don't think so. What do the Atlanta Flames or Calgary Flames have to do with the Winnipeg Jets? Nothing.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 12, 2018, 04:32:33 PM
I don't think so. What do the Atlanta Flames or Calgary Flames have to do with the Winnipeg Jets? Nothing.
No doubt.
2 separate situations.
Atlanta had 2 teams. They lost the Flames to Calgary, and the Thrashers to us. Both unrelated.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 12, 2018, 03:22:52 PM
shouldn't it be the "Atlanta flames/Calgary flames/Atlanta jets/ Winnipeg Jets ?
Lmao what?
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 12, 2018, 04:32:33 PM
I don't think so. What do the Atlanta Flames or Calgary Flames have to do with the Winnipeg Jets? Nothing.
Been up north to long.
Ice is now smarter then he is
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 12, 2018, 04:32:33 PM
I don't think so. What do the Atlanta Flames or Calgary Flames have to do with the Winnipeg Jets? Nothing.
It makes the jets and flames kissin cousins.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 12, 2018, 04:57:40 PM
Been up north to long.
Ice is now smarter then he is
Retired at the age of 50....not many can say that.....so just smart enough lol
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 12, 2018, 05:04:17 PM
Retired at the age of 50....not many can say that.....so just smart enough lol
Ya id second think that.
Might want to melt out a bit.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 12, 2018, 05:05:23 PM
Ya id second think that.
Might want to melt out a bit.
I have been snowmobiling the last three days up here, trails are excellent right now. Probably heading out again this afternoon.....so no, I don't want it to melt just yet 😊
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 12, 2018, 04:32:33 PM
I don't think so. What do the Atlanta Flames or Calgary Flames have to do with the Winnipeg Jets? Nothing.
Makes about as much sense as calling the Avs the Nordiques, the Hurricanes the Whalers, the Stars the North Stars, or the Devils the Scouts or the Rockies.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 12, 2018, 05:02:21 PM
It makes the jets and flames kissin cousins.
No, it doesn't.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 12, 2018, 05:15:58 PM
Makes about as much sense as calling the Avs the Nordiques, the Hurricanes the Whalers, the Stars the North Stars, or the Devils the Scouts or the Rockies.
No, it doesn't.
When I explain it to the Calgary fans they don't like it either.
I am gonna be back in the peg next week.....are them street parties going to happen every time a game is on ?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 12, 2018, 05:15:58 PM
Makes about as much sense as calling the Avs the Nordiques, the Hurricanes the Whalers, the Stars the North Stars, or the Devils the Scouts or the Rockies.
No, it doesn't.
Or calling the Coyotes the Jets :D :D
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 12, 2018, 06:01:39 PM
Or calling the Coyotes the Jets :D :D
Coyotes technically are the Jets 1.0 franchise.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 12, 2018, 05:29:16 PM
When I explain it to the Calgary fans they don't like it either.
Yeah, I can see why: they're also likely averse to stupid comments that make no sense and serve no purpose but to annoy.
And the fact is you haven't explained anything. Nothing new there, though.
#NHLJets Mathieu Perreault is a game time decision for gm2 on Friday.
Heard we was spotted after the game in a sling so I doubt he plays.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 12, 2018, 05:29:16 PM
When I explain it to the Calgary fans they don't like it either.
I am gonna be back in the peg next week.....are them street parties going to happen every time a game is on ?
I think right now the street parties are for home games only.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 12, 2018, 02:19:02 PM
Yep Dubnyk played great. Was super funny at the game after he let in the third goal, all the fans were chanting ?Dubnyk...Dubnyk...Dubnyk?. :D
Wasn't that funny fans do it to goalies all the time. Personally I don't like that chant when we are only up by one goal. Other team scores one and everyone looks like dicks. Now if the goalie is having a **** game and you are up by 3 or 4 then go at it.
Quote from: bluengold204 on April 12, 2018, 07:03:02 PM
Wasn't that funny fans do it to goalies all the time. Personally I don't like that chant when we are only up by one goal. Other team scores one and everyone looks like dicks. Now if the goalie is having a **** game and you are up by 3 or 4 then go at it.
That's your opinion. I thought it was super funny.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 12, 2018, 06:26:34 PM
Coyotes technically are the Jets 1.0 franchise.
No kidding. That is why I said it. He said all of the other teams that have moved, so I added the Coyotes, which he left out.
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 12, 2018, 07:38:43 PM
No kidding. That is why I said it. He said all of the other teams that have moved, so I added the Coyotes, which he left out.
Guess I misunderstood your post then ???
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 12, 2018, 07:41:54 PM
Guess I misunderstood your post then ???
Oh. Not sure what there was to misunderstand. I thought you were calling me out for saying something inaccurate. He listed all of the other franchises that have moved (Nordiques to Avs, etc.) He failed to mention the old Jets to Coyotes so I added it.
Quote from: bluengold204 on April 12, 2018, 07:03:02 PM
Wasn't that funny fans do it to goalies all the time. Personally I don't like that chant when we are only up by one goal. Other team scores one and everyone looks like dicks. Now if the goalie is having a **** game and you are up by 3 or 4 then go at it.
Fans are amped up and chants are part of the hostile environment visiting teams face come playoff time.
Probably one of the best chants in recent memory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2fs5Aa46aQ
Boudreau on Byfuglien's hit on Joel Eriksson Ek in Game 1: "It was a great hit, and it put him out for a couple of minutes. Interesting enough, our captain and our leader came right back and did the same thing to Perreault, and sort of said, 'We can hit, too.' " #NHLJets
One more Boudreau, on Byfuglien's propensity for over-pinching and giving up odd-man rushes: "We're aware of that. That's all we do, is watch tape and watch hockey. I've coached against him for the last 10, 11 years. We know what his propensity for a lot of things are." #NHLJets
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 12, 2018, 07:53:53 PM
Boudreau on Byfuglien's hit on Joel Eriksson Ek in Game 1: "It was a great hit, and it put him out for a couple of minutes. Interesting enough, our captain and our leader came right back and did the same thing to Perreault, and sort of said, 'We can hit, too.' " #NHLJets
One more Boudreau, on Byfuglien's propensity for over-pinching and giving up odd-man rushes: "We're aware of that. That's all we do, is watch tape and watch hockey. I've coached against him for the last 10, 11 years. We know what his propensity for a lot of things are." #NHLJets
So thats the plan? When Buf pinches attack? Alrighty. Good luck with that.
Biggest thing IMO to take away from last night is our kids wont be intimadated buy anything.
Liane was great all around. After his goal he had a look of... ok i got this.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 12, 2018, 09:13:44 PM
So thats the plan? When Buf pinches attack? Alrighty. Good luck with that.
Biggest thing IMO to take away from last night is our kids wont be intimadated buy anything.
Liane was great all around. After his goal he had a look of... ok i got this.
After Laine's goal last night he went over to the Wild's bench for some high-fives :D
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 12, 2018, 09:23:30 PM
After Laine's goal last night he went over to the Wild's bench for some high-fives :D
Lol. Just being polite
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 12, 2018, 06:38:15 PM
Yeah, I can see why: they're also likely averse to stupid comments that make no sense and serve no purpose but to annoy.
And the fact is you haven't explained anything. Nothing new there, though.
Lol.....I would say you need to relax a bit .....not everything has to be super serious all the time, it's okay to have a laugh and joke around.
#realjetsareinphoenix
Quote from: bluengold204 on April 12, 2018, 06:57:09 PM
I think right now the street parties are for home games only.
K..thanks
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 12, 2018, 10:09:53 PM
Lol.....I would say you need to relax a bit .....not everything has to be super serious all the time, it's okay to have a laugh and joke around.
#realjetsareinphoenix
Your "humour" is garbage and it contributes nothing to a discussion, that's all. :)
What Laine did after his goal last night was funny. That's actual humour.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 12, 2018, 11:32:41 PM
Your "humour" is garbage and it contributes nothing to a discussion, that's all. :)
What Laine did after his goal last night was funny. That's actual humour.
Is that how you got so many posts.....you just gotta post on everything lol.
And it's playoff time...it's time to get serious....Lainie needs to keep his head in the game and leave the goofy antics out of it.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 12, 2018, 11:37:58 PM
Is that how you got so many posts.....you just gotta post on everything lol.
And it's playoff time...it's time to get serious....Lainie needs to keep his head in the game and leave the goofy antics out of it.
No, I contribute to discussions with actual information. Not lame jokes and needless comments. ;D
I guess you didn't actually watch the game last night. Laine's stat sheet: 1 goal, +1, 4 SOG, 25.0 S%. But sure, dump on the kid for celebrating his first ever playoff goal.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 12, 2018, 11:43:14 PM
No, I contribute to discussions with actual information. Not lame jokes and needless comments. ;D
I guess you didn't actually watch the game last night. Laine's stat sheet: 1 goal, +1, 4 SOG, 25.0 S%. But sure, dump on the kid for celebrating his first ever playoff goal.
Very debatable at times.
you call that dumping ?.......
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 12, 2018, 11:37:58 PM
Is that how you got so many posts.....you just gotta post on everything lol.
And it's playoff time...it's time to get serious....Lainie needs to keep his head in the game and leave the goofy antics out of it.
What are you talking about? Did you even watch the game?
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 12, 2018, 03:38:44 PM
I went to the street party before and after the game. Atmosphere was awesome. Lots of people dancing after the game. Not sure it?d be a good place for young kids though. They sell alcohol there at the street party. How old is your son?
My son is 7, but I'm not taking him tonight. If it's not too crazy maybe I'll bring him to some other game there. Sounds like they have expanded it and are adding more food and beverage options.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on April 13, 2018, 02:26:23 PM
My son is 7, but I'm not taking him tonight. If it's not too crazy maybe I'll bring him to some other game there. Sounds like they have expanded it and are adding more food and beverage options.
For what its worth, I dunno if it is true or not, but I heard they plan to now have a family/alcohol free section within the street party.
Quote from: bluengold204 on April 13, 2018, 02:44:08 PM
For what its worth, I dunno if it is true or not, but I heard they plan to now have a family/alcohol free section within the street party.
That is correct.
Quote from: bluengold204 on April 13, 2018, 02:44:08 PM
For what its worth, I dunno if it is true or not, but I heard they plan to now have a family/alcohol free section within the street party.
Yes, the area is by the Millennium library. Good idea in my opinion. I think tonight's crowd might be a bit more raucous....
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 13, 2018, 03:17:10 PM
Yes, the area is by the Millennium library. Good idea in my opinion. I think tonight's crowd might be a bit more raucous....
No question. It's going to be one hell of a party downtown tonight!
Per Ken Wiebe, no Perreault at today's morning skate.
The "white out zone" hootin and hollerin on a Wednesday night was impressive... on a Friday night it is going to be downright scary.
And it won't peter out at 10...
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 13, 2018, 03:41:06 PM
No question. It's going to be one hell of a party downtown tonight!
Per Ken Wiebe, no Perreault at today's morning skate.
On Perreault, I heard he was seen after the game in a sling. I also heard it was "good news/bad news" on Perreault. Likely meaning he's out tonight, but it's not long-term.
Roslovic time?
Quote from: theaardvark on April 13, 2018, 03:45:39 PM
The "white out zone" hootin and hollerin on a Wednesday night was impressive... on a Friday night it is going to be downright scary.
And it won't peter out at 10...
The white out kinda looks funny these days since the home team is actually wearing blue. Looks more like they are supporting Minnesota when watching the game.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 13, 2018, 04:28:37 PM
Roslovic time?
Based on this mornings practice, that's how it looks. Sounds like Hendricks will be an option soon.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 13, 2018, 04:34:55 PM
The white out kinda looks funny these days since the home team is actually wearing blue. Looks more like they are supporting Minnesota when watching the game.
Then you simply don't get the history and tradition of it. Makes perfect sense to me and apparently thousands of others.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 13, 2018, 04:59:27 PM
Then you simply don't get the history and tradition of it. Makes perfect sense to me and apparently thousands of others.
As ive been reading its pretty easy to tell hes got about zero idea.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 13, 2018, 04:59:27 PM
Then you simply don't get the history and tradition of it. Makes perfect sense to me and apparently thousands of others.
Within the perimeter I suppose it makes a bit of sense. But to somebody tuning in to the game for the first time I can see how it could be confusing.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 13, 2018, 05:51:12 PM
Within the perimeter I suppose it makes a bit of sense. But to somebody tuning in to the game for the first time I can see how it could be confusing.
Less then zero idea you have. Good grief man.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 13, 2018, 05:53:52 PM
Less then zero idea you have. Good grief man.
When the white out first appeared the home team wore white. It made sense back then, now the team wears blue.....so really it makes no sense. and it's just an opinion, so no need for personal attacks.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 13, 2018, 06:21:41 PM
When the white out first appeared the home team wore white. It made sense back then, now the team wears blue.....so really it makes no sense. and it's just an opinion, so no need for personal attacks.
The white out didn't have anything to do with the colour of the home team's jersey back then.
Setting the bar pretty dam low for people "outside the perimeter" to be confused.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 13, 2018, 04:59:27 PM
Then you simply don't get the history and tradition of it. Makes perfect sense to me and apparently thousands of others.
Just ignore his thoughtless, stupid comments. They're only meant to stir the pot and don't add to anything of value to the discussions on this forum.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 13, 2018, 06:37:27 PM
The white out didn't have anything to do with the colour of the home team's jersey back then.
Setting the bar pretty dam low for people "outside the perimeter" to be confused.
What did it have to do with other than the home team wore white ?.......isn't that what some other teams fans do now is wear the colour of their team to the game
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 13, 2018, 06:37:27 PM
The white out didn't have anything to do with the colour of the home team's jersey back then.
Setting the bar pretty dam low for people "outside the perimeter" to be confused.
Unfortunately, it did...
Quotenitially, the team pitched an idea to encourage fans to wear the Jets' three main colours ? red, white and blue.
Not only would it be difficult for people to find multi-coloured clothes, it wouldn't be very bold, Palson thought. It would just look like a regular crowd of people with all those different colours.
"That wasn't going to make any kind of statement. How could it?" he said.
Rod Palson was in marketing in the 1987 and came up with the concept of the Winnipeg whiteout. He suggest simply asking fans to wear a white T-shirt, the main colour at the time of the team's home jersey.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-jets-whiteout-1.4616171
Rod Palson was in marketing in the 1987 and came up with the concept of the Winnipeg whiteout. He suggest simply asking fans to wear a white T-shirt, the main colour at the time of the team's home jersey.
Where did blue_or_die go ?......
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 13, 2018, 05:51:12 PM
Within the perimeter I suppose it makes a bit of sense. But to somebody tuning in to the game for the first time I can see how it could be confusing.
Seriously?? Within the perimeter?? ::) People around Canada understand how the whiteout started and why that tradition was brought back with this Jets team. Anyway, whatever. Think what you want.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 13, 2018, 07:06:44 PM
Seriously?? Within the perimeter?? ::) People around Canada understand how the whiteout started and why that tradition was brought back with this Jets team. Anyway, whatever. Think what you want.
I know older hockey people will understand, and know how it started. ...But why was it brought back now ? It's not like they won it all the last time they did it.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 13, 2018, 07:09:33 PM
I know older hockey people will understand, and know how it started. ...But why was it brought back now ? It's not like they won it all the last time they did it.
Flames started the sea of red yet at the time their home jersey was white. Was that confusing?
This year the Ducks wear black at home yey wave orange towels. Does that mess with your head?
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 13, 2018, 07:09:33 PM
I know older hockey people will understand, and know how it started. ...But why was it brought back now ? It's not like they won it all the last time they did it.
Cause it?s fun, gets fans excited, looks cool, generates atmposphere, sells merchandise...
Enough reasons for you??
I clap at sporting events - my team doesn?t win every game - should I not clap when they play well??
Chill out and have some fun
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 13, 2018, 06:55:19 PM
Rod Palson was in marketing in the 1987 and came up with the concept of the Winnipeg whiteout. He suggest simply asking fans to wear a white T-shirt, the main colour at the time of the team's home jersey.
Where did blue_or_die go ?......
From all accounts I've heard, it was to look like where we are from- a cold place that jets snow storms. At least, that what was said in the documentary leading up to the game on SportsNet.
It's so interesting how you have never bothered to come onto this thread all year and when you do, it's nothing but crotchety cynicism. The team finished 2nd in the entire league and all you have to say is that Laine is acting like a goof and that dressing in white is confusing because the home team does not wear white?
Let?s go Jets. Probably another close game and anxious moments throughout.
Settle in for some fun!!
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 13, 2018, 08:32:32 PM
From all accounts I've heard, it was to look like where we are from- a cold place that jets snow storms. At least, that what was said in the documentary leading up to the game on SportsNet.
It's so interesting how you have never bothered to come onto this thread all year and when you do, it's nothing but crotchety cynicism. The team finished 2nd in the entire league and all you have to say is that Laine is acting like a goof and that dressing in white is confusing because the home team does not wear white?
Honestly blue or die I thought it had something to do a bit with being in the north(compared to other teams), An the snow etc etc as well....
...and I will admit...that I am still bitter about Winnipeg not supporting the jets enough the first time to keep them around. So the white out looks cheap to me.....it's a new team so come up with some new ideas...
Jets are destroying the Wild and yet only have a 1 goal lead...dubnyk is stoning them again.
The hits we are laying on them are amazing.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 14, 2018, 12:38:26 AM
Honestly blue or die I thought it had something to do a bit with being in the north(compared to other teams), An the snow etc etc as well....
...and I will admit...that I am still bitter about Winnipeg not supporting the jets enough the first time to keep them around. So the white out looks cheap to me.....it's a new team so come up with some new ideas...
Getting to be ancient history already. Time to get over it and enjoy what we have. I am almost 50 so I know all about Jets 1.0. There were lots of reasons the team left - no need to keep rehashing it and letting that spoil what we have now. Nothing cheap about the white out - it?s what the fans want...you can?t bash fans for not supporting the old jets then bash them for having fun and supporting this team.
Jets dominating yet all it takes is one shot from the wild to go in and tie it up. I hate that! Let?s pot a few more goals and put this one away. What a party in the Peg tonight. My street is absolutely dead. Zero traffic in a long while.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 14, 2018, 01:26:36 AM
Jets dominating yet all it takes is one shot from the wild to go in and tie it up. I hate that! Let?s pot a few more goals and put this one away. What a party in the Peg tonight. My street is absolutely dead. Zero traffic in a long while.
GOALLLLLL
I can breath again
Beat them down and the goals will come...and they did.
Darn goal spoils the shutout
Quote from: The Zipp on April 14, 2018, 01:15:04 AM
Getting to be ancient history already. Time to get over it and enjoy what we have. I am almost 50 so I know all about Jets 1.0. There were lots of reasons the team left - no need to keep rehashing it and letting that spoil what we have now. Nothing cheap about the white out - it?s what the fans want...you can?t bash fans for not supporting the old jets then bash them for having fun and supporting this team.
Hab fans never let us forget their ancient hockey history.
And sorry, but yes a person could bash fans for not supporting the team and letting it die.....and then just because the new team gets some playoff games it's all good again......that would be hypocritical would it not ?
I do not include the newest generation of fans in my comments though, those that were not a part of it the first time. They are excused.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 14, 2018, 02:21:42 AM
Hab fans never let us forget their ancient hockey history.
And sorry, but yes a person could bash fans for not supporting the team and letting it die.....and then just because the new team gets some playoff games it's all good again......that would be hypocritical would it not ?
I do not include the newest generation of fans in my comments though, those that were not a part of it the first time. They are excused.
Fans have been supporting the team since it returned- playoffs or not. You are not making sense in any of this.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 14, 2018, 02:21:42 AM
Hab fans never let us forget their ancient hockey history.
And sorry, but yes a person could bash fans for not supporting the team and letting it die.....and then just because the new team gets some playoff games it's all good again......that would be hypocritical would it not ?
I do not include the newest generation of fans in my comments though, those that were not a part of it the first time. They are excused.
Holy **** you have very lil idea.
Its so funny how you come off.
absolutely stunning display of speed, team defense & follow thru on their checks ........ such a FANTASTIC team victory
Only weakness ..... was how poorly, the Jets usual reliable faceoff performers, statistically got beat badly.
The shots on goal through 2 games are absolutely ridiculous! Jets are out-shooting Wild 83 - 37 so far!!
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 14, 2018, 12:38:26 AM
Honestly blue or die I thought it had something to do a bit with being in the north(compared to other teams), An the snow etc etc as well....
...and I will admit...that I am still bitter about Winnipeg not supporting the jets enough the first time to keep them around. So the white out looks cheap to me.....it's a new team so come up with some new ideas...
Well fair enough if you feel that way but like others have said, you shouldn't go through life being bitter about all that stuff. I'm a "new generation" of fan (although I'm not that young, but was pretty young when the Jets 1.0 left) but I'm not bitter about what happened. Fan support, as I understand, was only a small part of why the team left. But that doesn't even matter because what we have now is amazing. My dad said this is even more fun than the WHA games because the competition, size of the league and parity make getting to the show such a huge deal. There's room on the wagon so jump on!
Beautiful victory last night!! What a fun time!! I'm stoked to see how we fare in Minny Sunday night!!!
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 14, 2018, 12:54:33 PM
Well fair enough if you feel that way but like others have said, you shouldn't go through life being bitter about all that stuff. I'm a "new generation" of fan (although I'm not that young, but was pretty young when the Jets 1.0 left) but I'm not bitter about what happened. Fan support, as I understand, was only a small part of why the team left. But that doesn't even matter because what we have now is amazing. My dad said this is even more fun than the WHA games because the competition, size of the league and parity make getting to the show such a huge deal. There's room on the wagon so jump on!
Beautiful victory last night!! What a fun time!! I'm stoked to see how we fare in Minny Sunday night!!!
I have been to several regular season Jets games in St. Paul and our fans travel well. The "True North!" during the anthem is almost as loud in St. Paul as it is here. I am hoping we dominate a large portion of Xcel for the next 2 games.
I m thinking the series will turn ugly in minny , especially if we get up a couple of goals early.
The Wild were clearly outclassed in last nights game, they spent the entire game chasing the Jets and trying to get the puck.
Their offense is hopeless. 14 shots or whatever they had, is a good period but our aren?t going to win any hockey games getting 14 shots on goal
Jets are too fast and skilled for them. They just have to keep playing the way they are and not get lured into playing in a street fight. Buff, Myers and the big boys on our blue line will make them pay when they come into our zone.
Oh my gosh can Buff hit!!! You can?t tell me their forwards don?t take notice when he?s on the ice. He?s a Mac truck on skates!!!
Quote from: dd on April 14, 2018, 06:30:59 PM
I m thinking the series will turn ugly in minny , especially if we get up a couple of goals early.
The Wild were clearly outclassed in last nights game, they spent the entire game chasing the Jets and trying to get the puck.
Their offense is hopeless. 14 shots or whatever they had, is a good period but our aren?t going to win any hockey games getting 14 shots on goal
Jets are too fast and skilled for them. They just have to keep playing the way they are and not get lured into playing in a street fight. Buff, Myers and the big boys on our blue line will make them pay when they come into our zone.
Oh my gosh can Buff hit!!! You can?t tell me their forwards don?t take notice when he?s on the ice. He?s a Mac truck on skates!!!
I agree.
Another thing is we can just keep rolling 4 lines and not have to worry about matching lines. It dont matter who they put out we can just keep rolling ours.
Minny haveing the last change in their building will not be an advatage for them. Our guys will just keep coming.
The Wild flew into Minny last night...Jets did not and are now looking at flying into Duluth and trying to drive into Minny or wait till flights are allowed into MSP..
Brutal storm right now in Minnesota.
True North spokesperson Scott Brown confirms the Jets have been diverted to Duluth.
No immediate word on their next move - wait out the weather (MSP is hoping to re-open to flights at 7 p.m.) or try to bus.
All flights out of Minneapolis airport, from now until 7 pm, cancelled. Biggest April snow dump in Minnesota history. #NHLJets.
Minnesota State Patrol says 245 crashes reported already. 22 involved injuries. 2 serious. Hwy 52 (I-94) closed in both directions, from Coates to Hampton. #NHLJets.
Laine?s violin was a prank to Mikko Koivu from TPS Turku. Iconic Timo Nummelin from TPS Turku was known for his goal celebration in which he imitates playing a violin with his stick. This is mentioned in TPS's goal song. #NHLPlayoffs2018 #Jets #mnwild
I?m really surprised the Jets didn?t leave last night given the fact a massive storm was brewing for today. I wonder what the NHL will do if the Jets can?t make it there on time? Start by pushing back game time or postponing until Monday? I really hope people are not taking risks out there on the roads. Hopefully our team and fans all arrive safe and sound. This could be a big break for the wild...
Do a game Monday and Tuesday in Minny??
Just watching the Preds game on nbc and the listing of closures for today and tomorrow is pretty big for MSP area
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 14, 2018, 08:25:39 PM
I?m really surprised the Jets didn?t leave last night given the fact a massive storm was brewing for today. I wonder what the NHL will do if the Jets can?t make it there on time? Start by pushing back game time or postponing until Monday? I really hope people are not taking risks out there on the roads. Hopefully our team and fans all arrive safe and sound. This could be a big break for the wild...
Storm is supposed to let up by Sunday morning.
I checked MSP airport arrivals. 90% of flights are cancelled or delayed, but some are still arriving on time. One from Duluth is scheduled to arrive at 4:35pm.
MSP airport tweeted that they hope to have runways clear by 9pm
Jets are back in Winnipeg and will be leaving tomorrow morning. Yikes! Advantage Minnesota...
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 14, 2018, 10:54:16 PM
Jets are back in Winnipeg and will be leaving tomorrow morning. Yikes! Advantage Minnesota...
Yikes!
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 14, 2018, 10:54:16 PM
Jets are back in Winnipeg and will be leaving tomorrow morning. Yikes! Advantage Minnesota...
Extra nights sleep at home. Advantage Jets!
Well at least they can sleep in their own beds tonight...the flight isn?t overly long to Minny - and good thing it isn?t an afternoon game.
I actually expect them to lose one in Minny. I think the Wild know they were embarrassed and will come out much faster. Wouldn?t surprise me to lose one in OT then win the rest of the series in 5 games
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 15, 2018, 12:30:15 AM
Extra nights sleep at home. Advantage Jets!
True, but I?m thinking of the extra time spent in the cramped seats of the plane, an early morning flight tomorrow as well as game day routines being disrupted. I read somewhere that the Jets stayed on the plane in Duluth. I think the best we?ll do in Minny is a split 1-1. I hope I?m wrong.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 15, 2018, 12:36:30 AM
True, but I?m thinking of the extra time spent in the cramped seats of the plane, an early morning flight tomorrow as well as game day routines being disrupted. I read somewhere that the Jets stayed on the plane in Duluth. I think the best we?ll do in Minny is a split 1-1. I hope I?m wrong.
Most players have been skipping the game day skates. No big deal imo.
I?m curious who did the travel planning planning for the Jets. First why didn?t they fly out last night, knowing the forecast? Second, before flying out today, did they not know the conditions in Minneapolis, or did that change while they were in the air?
Just make sure the boys have their portable game consoles on the plane and everything will be just fine...
You want a white out ya got a white out .....lol
Saint Paul, Minnesota
Issued at 03:43 Sunday 15 April 2018
Snow and wind have been diminishing across southern Minnesota and west central Wisconsin this morning. However, the slow movement of the weather system will continue light snow and gusty northerly winds over the area today. The Blizzard Warning has been cancelled and replaced with a Winter Weather Advisory for much of central and southern Minnesota today into this evening. A general 2 to 5 inches of additional snowfall will occur in the advisory area. The gusty northerly winds will continue to cause considerable blowing and drifting snow.
A Winter Storm Warning remains in effect for a small part of east central Minnesota and all of west central Wisconsin through 10 PM. Snowfall from 5 to 9 inches is expected to occur today and linger into the evening before ending.
From MSP Airport: Flight operations resumed this morning. Please check with your airline for your specific flight?s status.
Game on tonight!
Apparently there are still delays on flights to MSP. Sara Orlesky and Darren Dreger are stuck in Chicago. Gord Miller is supposed to broadcast tonight?s game and his 10 am flight out of Chicago was just cancelled. What a mess!
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 15, 2018, 01:30:51 PM
Apparently there are still delays on flights to MSP. Sara Orlesky and Darren Dreger are stuck in Chicago. Gord Miller is supposed to broadcast tonight?s game and his 10 am flight out of Chicago was just cancelled. What a mess!
A 6:20 flight, 7:00 flight, 7:05 flight, 7:30 flight all left from Chicago OHare and arrived in Minneapolis. The 10:00 and 10:15 flights have been cancelled to MSP, but the 10:49 and 11:55 are still on schedule as planned.
They got pounded with snow...and it is is still coming down.
Snow totals as of 6:30pm #wcco
19.0" Canby
14.5" Montevideo
13.8" NE Minneapolis
13.3" Eden Prairie
13.0" Mound
12.0" Redwood Falls
11.5" Columbia Heights
10.2" S Minneapolis
10.0" Hugo
9.5" Bloomington
9.5" Shakopee
8.5" N. St. Paul
7.8" Chaska
7.5" Burnsville
7.1" Oak Grove
Jets have landed in MSP. Bring on game 3!
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 15, 2018, 03:18:57 PM
Jets have landed in MSP. Bring on game 3!
Great to hear! Source??
#NHLJets have arrived in Minneapolis for tonight's Game 3 vs. the Minnesota Wild. Game time is 6:00 p.m. on @Sportsnet.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 15, 2018, 03:31:27 PM
Source is the Jets.
I was asking the previous poster because he posted it without any source or additional info.
Game 3 has Wes McCauley and Tim Peel as tonight?s refs. After the ending we had in game 2, the question is, will we hear at least one ?5 minutes each for... FIGHTING? call? :D
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 15, 2018, 05:02:40 PM
Game 3 has Wes McCauley and Tim Peel as tonight?s refs. After the ending we had in game 2, the question is, will we hear at least one ?5 minutes each for... FIGHTING? call? :D
One can hope! :D
Should be a great game tonight.
Trouba just said this whole fiasco with the snow storm and delays in Duluth caused no disturbance in the teams routine and that it didnt bother anyone and they "enjoyed their time together".
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 15, 2018, 05:02:40 PM
Game 3 has Wes McCauley and Tim Peel as tonight?s refs. After the ending we had in game 2, the question is, will we hear at least one ?5 minutes each for... FIGHTING? call? :D
Hearing some ?refs you suck? from the fans...
The refs are locking this game down.
This one is done...not surprised - wild were embarrassed last game here and they are too good to not take that personally. They have taken it to the Jets and Chiarot is garbage today.
Well this game is over. On to game 4.
Mason in to start the third.
Defenceman Tyler Myers will not return to tonight?s game.
Myers down... I guess Poolman comes in? Or is Enstrom ready? Can Niku be recalled?
Quote from: theaardvark on April 16, 2018, 02:23:21 AM
Myers down... I guess Poolman comes in? Or is Enstrom ready? Can Niku be recalled?
Myers is a RHD. Poolman is a RHD and Enstrom is a LHD.
Sounds like Myers was walking with a limp after the game but might not be serious.
Looks like Foligno punched Myers knee as he was falling down. Guy should be suspended.
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 15, 2018, 10:38:10 PM
Trouba just said this whole fiasco with the snow storm and delays in Duluth caused no disturbance in the teams routine and that it didnt bother anyone and they "enjoyed their time together".
That's wishful thinking. People/hockey players are creatures of habit and want/need a structured schedule to
Follow. All this bouncing around was wasted energy and it showed as the jets looked lost out there tonight.
Not sure if it was a case of everything seemed to bounce in for minny or we just couldn't buy a break but things gotta change next game
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 16, 2018, 02:29:29 AM
Myers is a RHD. Poolman is a RHD and Enstrom is a LHD.
Sounds like Myers was walking with a limp after the game but might not be serious.
Looks like Foligno punched Myers knee as he was falling down. Guy should be suspended.
No doubt about it Foligno chopped his knee which then led to him collapsing his leg awkwardly into the boards. Should be a suspension but won?t be unfortunately. Jets need to regroup and come out fast and heavy hitting on Tuesday.
Minny is a great home team...they came to play after being dominated in WPG.
Jets were outplayed and Helly wasn?t stellar either. Lose the next one and I will be start to be worried about this series slipping away.
We need Bryan little to be better. Never heard Roslovic mentioned much but i did skip the third period and watched the Andre the Giant documentary I had PVR?ed. It was great!!
Postgame #nhljets player scrums, in brief:
Wheeler: We need to skate faster
Hellebuyck: I need to put this one behind me
Lowry: I don?t think Foligno?s hit on Myers was dirty
Ehlers: We need to be better
Little: It?s one game.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 16, 2018, 02:29:29 AM
Myers is a RHD. Poolman is a RHD and Enstrom is a LHD.
Sounds like Myers was walking with a limp after the game but might not be serious.
Looks like Foligno punched Myers knee as he was falling down. Guy should be suspended.
If Myers can't go on Tuesday, Poolman gets the nod would be my guess. Hopefully, it's nothing serious and he can play, though.
It sure looked like Foligno took a jab at Myers' knee when he was going down, but I doubt the league takes another look at it.
Ugly game tonight and they fell apart late in the second. Defensive coverage was embarrassing; Hellebuyck was screened by his own defenseman on three of the Wild's goals. >:(
Gotta get back to what's worked: speed, relentless forechecking, and attention to detail at both ends of the ice. Face-offs gotta be better, too. Trash this game tape on move on to the next game.
Quote from: The Zipp on April 16, 2018, 03:12:40 AM
Postgame #nhljets player scrums, in brief:
Wheeler: We need to skate faster
Hellebuyck: I need to put this one behind me
Lowry: I don?t think Foligno?s hit on Myers was dirty
Ehlers: We need to be better
Little: It?s one game.
Maurice basically said that no one expects to win 4 in a row, and no one expects to lose 4 in a row so a tough loss was expected at some point. He did not seem too concerned and said that they will bounce back next game. I thought it was a little humorous when Maurice was asked about losing tonight, he said "Ask Pittsburgh, they know what its all about".
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 16, 2018, 04:03:39 AM
If Myers can't go on Tuesday, Poolman gets the nod would be my guess.
I hope you're right. With the physicality of this series so far, Enstrom would be broken in two before the first TV timeout.
Tyler Myers walked in with his Jets teammates. Seems to be walking without any limp
#mnwild
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 16, 2018, 06:22:34 PM
Tyler Myers walked in with his Jets teammates. Seems to be walking without any limp
#mnwild
Yay! ;D
Who tweeted the good news?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 16, 2018, 06:24:13 PM
Yay! ;D
Who tweeted the good news?
Wild media guy. Michael Russo.
Darren Dreger@DarrenDreger
Tyler Myers left the arena this morning in Saint Paul. Expect Jets head coach Paul Maurice to address his status in this series shortly.
Sara Orlesky
Verified account @saraorlesky
1h1 hour ago
Optional skate for #NHLJets. The only two D taking part are Tucker Poolman and Josh Morrissey.
From Bauming: My spies at Minneapolis-St. Paul airport tell me Tyler Myers is set to fly back to Winnipeg this evening. #NHLJets
From Dreger: Belief is Tyler Myers on his way back to Wpg for treatment. Highly doubtful (obv) for game 4. Sounds like aggravated muscular injury.
So, he was accidentally punched causing injury... nothing nefarious because they used to be team mates... c'mon man. In the Stanley Cup Playoffs, a hockey player would take his grandmother into the boards with elbow high if he could get away with it... "they used to be team mates" is hardly a defence. The more times I see that GIF, the more it looks like a deliberate punch at the side of a knee, which is probably the most vulnerable spot to hit a joint, especially on a very tall player. Now, both hands were still firmly gripping the stick, and the other end of the stick seemed to be being moved by an outside force, so did the fist just go with it? Maybe, but that's not what he is saying happened...
Preds are looking like the jets last night...still lots of hockey to play though.
Man McKinnon is fast - great breakaway goal just now.
Jets, Boston and TB all have a loss. Preds looking lost and just might get their first loss tonight too. If so, teams 1-4 would all be denied a sweep which many people thought might happen in a few of the series. This sure makes me feel better about yesterday?s game. Home crowd advantage coupled with desperate teams makes for a deadly combination. Bounce back game happens tomorrow!
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 17, 2018, 03:04:48 AM
Jets, Boston and TB all have a loss. Preds looking lost and just might get their first loss tonight too. If so, teams 1-4 would all be denied a sweep which many people thought might happen in a few of the series. This sure makes me feel better about yesterday?s game. Home crowd advantage coupled with desperate teams makes for a deadly combination. Bounce back game happens tomorrow!
I hate and blame the travel on they way they played. But it seems the home teams on game 3 had a harder time.
The sheer desperation when you are facing going 0-3 is huge too. The motivation to win is just massive and it has showed in the performances.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 17, 2018, 03:04:48 AM
Jets, Boston and TB all have a loss. Preds looking lost and just might get their first loss tonight too. If so, teams 1-4 would all be denied a sweep which many people thought might happen in a few of the series. This sure makes me feel better about yesterday?s game. Home crowd advantage coupled with desperate teams makes for a deadly combination. Bounce back game happens tomorrow!
Me too. Even the undefeatable Nashville can be defeated in the same circumstances. I like that.
I think we take it tonight in a close one and then pound them at home Friday. Everyone parties.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 17, 2018, 12:58:27 PM
Me too. Even the undefeatable Nashville can be defeated in the same circumstances. I like that.
I think we take it tonight in a close one and then pound them at home Friday. Everyone parties.
I hope you're right. The city would erupt on Friday if that were to happen. ;D
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 17, 2018, 12:58:27 PM
Me too. Even the undefeatable Nashville can be defeated in the same circumstances. I like that.
I think we take it tonight in a close one and then pound them at home Friday. Everyone parties.
Home ice advantage was out in spades last night...
Bruins 2
Maple Leafs 4
Lightning 2
Devils 5
Predators 3
Avalanche 5
Ducks 1
Sharks 8
That's a lot of hurt that road teams took last night. But, that's why finishing above a team is worth so much, 4 home games is a huge advantage...
"You're not in trouble until you lose a game at home."
Said by someone at some point, frequently repeated by broadcasters.
Ken Wiebe @WiebeSunSports
Don?t be surprised if #NHLJets recall D Sami Niku from #MBMoose of #AHL today.
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Quote from: theaardvark on April 17, 2018, 03:00:50 PM
Ken Wiebe @WiebeSunSports
Don?t be surprised if #NHLJets recall D Sami Niku from #MBMoose of #AHL today.
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He won't play tonight though as I expect Poolman to be in for Myers, and Estrom is getting close.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 17, 2018, 03:10:43 PM
He won't play tonight though as I expect Poolman to be in for Myers, and Estrom is getting close.
Funny how people, including myself, are now happy to have Toby in the lineup.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 17, 2018, 03:00:50 PM
Ken Wiebe @WiebeSunSports
Don?t be surprised if #NHLJets recall D Sami Niku from #MBMoose of #AHL today.
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Wonder why they would even bother calling him up today. Why not just wait till they are back in the peg.
Quote from: True Blue on April 17, 2018, 03:14:46 PM
Funny how people, including myself, are now happy to have Toby in the lineup.
I don't see how Toby gets in the lineup, unless we have another injury. And if he gets in, he probably won't make it through the game without suffering another injury.
Yup.... Niku has been called up.
Toby must be still pretty far away from returning.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 17, 2018, 03:19:04 PM
I don't see how Toby gets in the lineup, unless we have another injury. And if he gets in, he probably definitely won't make it through the game without suffering another injury.
Fixed.
Quote from: Stretch on April 17, 2018, 04:52:13 PM
Fixed.
lol we agree! Toby's body just can't handle the game anymore...especially playoff hockey. It's time for Toby to call it a career.
Expected lineup:
Connor-Scheifele-Wheeler
Laine-Stastny-Ehlers
Copp-Little-Roslovic
Tanev-Lowry-Armia
Morrissey-Trouba
Morrow-Byfuglien
Chiarot-Poolman
Hellebuyck
Mason
Healthy scratches: Niku, Dano, Matthias
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 17, 2018, 06:18:32 PM
Expected lineup:
Connor-Scheifele-Wheeler
Laine-Stastny-Ehlers
Copp-Little-Roslovic
Tanev-Lowry-Armia
Morrissey-Trouba
Morrow-Byfuglien
Chiarot-Poolman
Hellebuyck
Mason
Healthy scratches: Niku, Dano, Matthias
Love our depth! Our D pairings still look pretty good, although I expect to see the top 2 pairings to play a bit more tonight.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 17, 2018, 06:28:37 PM
Love our depth! Our D pairings still look pretty good, although I expect to see the top 2 pairings to play a bit more tonight.
as long as the D pairings aren't standing in front of Helly screening him....
Quote from: The Zipp on April 17, 2018, 07:23:38 PM
as long as the D pairings aren't standing in front of Helly screening him....
I know...just like last game. We need to get more traffic in front of Dubnyk too.
Michael Russo just reported Parise out 6-8 weeks with a fractured sternum (suffered in Sunday's game).
Huge blow to the Wild.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 17, 2018, 08:27:25 PM
Michael Russo just reported Parise out 6-8 weeks with a fractured sternum (suffered in Sunday's game).
Huge blow to the Wild.
Thats huge.
I can appreciate an advantage, but I empathize with the Wild. It's like they were set up for failure as the regular season closed out.
I really wanted to play them at full strength with Suter and Parise to see how we match up.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 17, 2018, 08:27:25 PM
Michael Russo just reported Parise out 6-8 weeks with a fractured sternum (suffered in Sunday's game).
Huge blow to the Wild.
That's big. Just think, the Wild's two hugs free agent acquisitions from 2012, Ryan Suter and Zach Parise, are both out for the remainder of the playoffs.
Wow... ZP - 2 goals all year, and then 2 in the first two games, and now out... for $9mil
I wonder, will Morrow and Chiarot ever flip partners? I really liked Buff/Chiarot. I get that Morrow is a vet presence, and might be called upon defensively a little more because of wandering Buff, but offensively, Chiarot and Buff makes a powerful shooting gallery...
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 17, 2018, 08:58:25 PM
I can appreciate an advantage, but I empathize with the Wild. It's like they were set up for failure as the regular season closed out.
I really wanted to play them at full strength with Suter and Parise to see how we match up.
We will have other teams to worry about.
I see what your saying but i only really think that way if it a one game takes all kinda thing like Football.
Hockey is more of a grind. We have been saying for years that we needed depth on our team and we finally have it. We have grinded it out all season using our depth as a team in one way or another.
Do i feel bad they lost a star? Sure but so did we.
I dont feel bad if they might not have that depth to fill that position. We watched our Jets for years in that same position. I never felt bad for the Jets so im not going to feel bad about some other team.
And like i said..... Many more teams will be coming up that we will see how we match up.
Tyler Ennis, Parise's replacement, is a pretty good player. The Wild have good depth too.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 17, 2018, 09:17:58 PM
Wow... ZP - 2 goals all year, and then 2 in the first two games, and now out... for $9mil
I wonder, will Morrow and Chiarot ever flip partners? I really liked Buff/Chiarot. I get that Morrow is a vet presence, and might be called upon defensively a little more because of wandering Buff, but offensively, Chiarot and Buff makes a powerful shooting gallery...
You dont think its better to have teams worry about Buff blasting it on one line then have no break because Chiarot is coming next? Then Trouba after that?
Teams have to commit to the point that way. IMO our D is a nightmare to play against.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 17, 2018, 09:27:46 PM
Tyler Ennis, Parise's replacement, is a pretty good player. The Wild have good depth too.
I agree
Ennis is pretty good. Tough game tonight.
Agree that it should be a tough game ....... Dubnyk has to be weak for the Jets to get a real edge.
Real edge ...... we lost Myers, which is huge, while they lost Zach P., which is a real tough blow for them.
In the short run, Ennis may do okay so that is why the Jets have to penetrate Dubnyk, meanwhile play an aggressive, clean defensive game.
GO JETS GO
Vezina Finalists as voted by the GMs: Hellebuyck (WIN), Rinne (NASH), Vasilevskiy (TB).
Better win tonight cause they likely won?t have Morrissey for game 5.
Just a terrible shot to Staal.
Quote from: The Zipp on April 18, 2018, 12:46:23 AM
Better win tonight cause they likely won?t have Morrissey for game 5.
Just a terrible shot to Staal.
No doubt. I will be shocked if he?s not suspended. That could have been a devastating injury on Staal. Jets are looking like they?re back to their usual style of play so far. This bodes well for us.
Morrissey will likely be suspended game 5.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 18, 2018, 12:50:44 AM
Morrissey will likely be suspended game 5.
Maybe even more.
Interesting that today the Jets recalled defenceman Sami Niku from the Manitoba Moose.
http://moosehockey.com/news/niku-recall-apr1718/
This game has OT all over it...
My tummy doesn?t feel well....too tense
Quote from: The Zipp on April 18, 2018, 01:37:08 AM
This game has OT all over it...
Shhhh! 2-0 with the ENG. ;)
I can breathe...wow. Solid game all around. Hellybuck is the star!!
This win was huge! Coming home 3-1 vs 2-2. Time to finish them off on Friday at home!
Highlights of the game are Hellebuyck?s save and Morrissey possibly suspended next game.
Basically a perfect road game in very hostile territory tonight.
Helly was the difference, his glove save early in the game on Dumba was absolutely lights out.
We ll lose Morrissey for at least 1 game, probably more. Direct cross check to the head area?? I m thinking 3 games like Kadri
Quote from: The Zipp on April 18, 2018, 02:24:50 AM
My tummy doesn?t feel well....too tense
I was ready to throw up several times during the 3rd.
We got the aggressive, clean defensive game for the most part. HellB on Dumba --- WOWEE !!
It will be a bad loss if Morrissey is suspended.
Quote from: dd on April 18, 2018, 02:50:35 AM
We ll lose Morrissey for at least 1 game, probably more. Direct cross check to the head area?? I m thinking 3 games like Kadri
Morrissey doesn't have the track record Kadri has, though.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 18, 2018, 03:12:51 AM
Morrissey doesn't have the track record Kadri has, though.
Agreed. 1 game, 2 max. I?m thinking two after Morrissey?s questionable hit on a Bruin when we played them at the end of March.
Boudreau saying that Morrissey ?cost the Wild the game?. I thought the hit was dirty, but that?s a steaming pile. Hey Bruce, how about your team goes out and scores more than zero goals?
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 18, 2018, 04:25:13 AM
Agreed. 1 game, 2 max. I?m thinking two after Morrissey?s questionable hit on a Bruin when we played them at the end of March.
Boudreau saying that Morrissey ?cost the Wild the game?. I thought the hit was dirty, but that?s a steaming pile. Hey Bruce, how about your team goes out and scores more than zero goals?
Sour grapes...he is assuming they would have scored on the power play and then again on the breakaway that Morrisey stopped. Childish comments - I will chalk it up to a competitive coach knowing he is in a huge hole.
They were back to normal
Hard n fast
Quote from: The Zipp on April 18, 2018, 05:06:18 AM
Sour grapes...he is assuming they would have scored on the power play and then again on the breakaway that Morrisey stopped. Childish comments - I will chalk it up to a competitive coach knowing he is in a huge hole.
And soon fired
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 18, 2018, 04:25:13 AM
Agreed. 1 game, 2 max. I?m thinking two after Morrissey?s questionable hit on a Bruin when we played them at the end of March.
Boudreau saying that Morrissey ?cost the Wild the game?. I thought the hit was dirty, but that?s a steaming pile. Hey Bruce, how about your team goes out and scores more than zero goals?
Prime example of sensationalizing.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 18, 2018, 04:25:13 AM
Agreed. 1 game, 2 max. I?m thinking two after Morrissey?s questionable hit on a Bruin when we played them at the end of March.
Boudreau saying that Morrissey ?cost the Wild the game?. I thought the hit was dirty, but that?s a steaming pile. Hey Bruce, how about your team goes out and scores more than zero goals?
Boudreau's logic is that if the penalty is called there on Morrissey, the Wild have a 5 on 3 where they likely score, and that would have changed the game. Penalty was missed and everyone acknowledges it. But penalties were missed on the Wild too, like the Foligno punch on Myers knee.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 18, 2018, 11:40:54 AM
Boudreau's logic is that if the penalty is called there on Morrissey, the Wild have a 5 on 3 where they likely score, and that would have changed the game. Penalty was missed and everyone acknowledges it. But penalties were missed on the Wild too, like the Foligno punch on Myers knee.
Yep.
I would also like to point out that in Game 3 the Wild had a 5 on 3 and did not score (during the actual 5 on 3 portion of that total PP).
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 18, 2018, 04:25:13 AM
Agreed. 1 game, 2 max. I?m thinking two after Morrissey?s questionable hit on a Bruin when we played them at the end of March.
Boudreau saying that Morrissey ?cost the Wild the game?. I thought the hit was dirty, but that?s a steaming pile. Hey Bruce, how about your team goes out and scores more than zero goals?
I mean, the Wild still had 40+ more minutes left to score a goal. And they didn't. :D
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 18, 2018, 08:11:46 AM
And soon fired
I don't see it. He still has two more years left and over $5M worth of salary remaining on his contract.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 18, 2018, 12:30:15 PM
Yep.
I would also like to point out that in Game 2 the Wild had a 5 on 3 and did not score (during the actual 5 on 3 portion of that total PP).
Just epic sour grapes from Elmer Fudd last night.
Boudreau won't be fired. Wild had a very good regular season, and they are missing two of their best players in Sutter and Parise for the playoffs.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 18, 2018, 11:40:54 AM
Boudreau's logic is that if the penalty is called there on Morrissey, the Wild have a 5 on 3 where they likely score, and that would have changed the game. Penalty was missed and everyone acknowledges it. But penalties were missed on the Wild too, like the Foligno punch on Myers knee.
And the head butt on Chiarot last night that was also not called. Bad missed calls on both sides throughout the series. I can?t wait to see how red Boudreau?s face gets on friday might. What a sore loser.
I think Boudreau's point is that not only would they have had a 5 on 3, but Morrissey should have gotten a game misconduct for the hit, and wouldn't have been there to defend on the break, or contribute in other ways. includng assisting on the game winning goal.
Boudreau is regarded as a great coach, and I am quite surprised at his comments against the officials, which should bring discipline from the NHL head office, and the fact that he gave his players an excuse for not winning the game. For not getting a single goal...
People talk about how a sweep give you time to rest, etc... but I think that a team with home advantage is best served with a 5 game series. You can't end up sitting a week waiting for another series to finish, and you get an extra home game ($Millions) and get to clinch in front of your fans...
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/986395882336718848 (https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/986395882336718848)
Winnipeg?s Josh Morrissey will have a hearing today for cross-checking Minnesota?s Eric Staal.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 18, 2018, 02:09:52 PM
I think Boudreau's point is that not only would they have had a 5 on 3, but Morrissey should have gotten a game misconduct for the hit, and wouldn't have been there to defend on the break, or contribute in other ways. includng assisting on the game winning goal.
Yeah I get what his "point" was, but just because JM would not have been in doesn't suddenly mean MN would have scored on the 5 on 3, or on the breakaway he broke up. If BB wants to play coulda woulda shoulda, maybe Morrissey's ejection would have ignited the Jets and we would have potted 8! Maybe keeping him in actually lowered our margin of victory? The world is limitless when dealing with hypotheticals.
(Only exception is 2007. Would have won with Glenn, no doubt. lmao).
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 18, 2018, 04:11:08 PM
Yeah I get what his "point" was, but just because JM would not have been in doesn't suddenly mean MN would have scored on the 5 on 3, or on the breakaway he broke up. If BB wants to play coulda woulda shoulda, maybe Morrissey's ejection would have ignited the Jets and we would have potted 8! Maybe keeping him in actually lowered our margin of victory? The world is limitless when dealing with hypotheticals.
(Only exception is 2007. Would have won with Glenn, no doubt. lmao).
And he doesn't take into account we were missing Myers due to an injury suffered in suspicious circumstances...
So, if he gets suspended, and Niku comes in, does he pair with Trouba in Morrissey's spot? Or with Buff? Or With Poolman, who he has probably played with on the Moose?
Personally, I like him with Buff... preview for him taking Enstrom's spot next year...
I think one of Myers or Enstrom will be able to suit up if Morrissey sits.
#NHLJets coach Paul Maurice said he would be surprised if Josh Morrissey gets suspended. Said hit on Staal was a penalty that was missed. Felt refs also missed calls on Foligno (twice) and Niederrriter.
I?m thinking Morrissey gets one game. Shouldn?t be more than that based on other DOPS judgements, but it always seems to be a coin toss decision so who knows. Just win on Friday and send the wild packing up their locker room.
Losing Morrissey for a game is bad, especially with Myers already out/hurt if he plays. That said, I have no issue with Niku getting into the lineup, he definately showed well in his first NHL game, I don't think he'll have the jitters at all, and he definitely had the game.
The Whiteout Street Party is expanding to become the biggest one yet.
An additional television screen, expanded venue as well as additional vendors and washrooms will all be in place for the 4:30 p.m. party opening on Friday.
Economic Development Winnipeg said the capacity will be increased by more than 50 per cent to allow even more Winnipeggers to celebrate.
?We?re going to continue to tweak the layout of this street party to make sure we do the best possible job we can every time,? CEO Dayna Spiring said Monday.
The party zone capacity was previously increased from 6,000 to 10,000 people for game two as well as an added a family-friendly, alcohol-free zone behind the Millenium Library.
Now, Graham Street will also be closed to allow more access.
?Additional entry and exit points will allow for greater site access and movement, including new entry points on Graham and Hargrave, as well as Graham and Smith,? a release from Economic Development said. ?This is in addition to existing entry points at Portage and Donald, and St. Mary and Donald.?
-Global news
Winnipeg?s Josh Morrissey suspended one game for cross-checking Minnesota?s Eric Staal.
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Winnipeg's Josh Morrissey suspended one game for cross-checking Minnesota's Eric Staal.
Welcome to the Stanley Cup Playoffs, Mr. Niku
Quote from: theaardvark on April 18, 2018, 11:12:55 PM
NHL Player Safety @NHLPlayerSafety
Winnipeg's Josh Morrissey suspended one game for cross-checking Minnesota's Eric Staal.
Welcome to the Stanley Cup Playoffs, Mr. Niku
I guess it was expected :'( :'( >:( >:(
Quote from: theaardvark on April 18, 2018, 11:12:55 PM
Welcome to the Stanley Cup Playoffs, Mr. Niku
I wouldn?t be surprised if Myers or Enstrom return Friday, and it?s not Niku.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 18, 2018, 11:12:55 PM
NHL Player Safety @NHLPlayerSafety
Winnipeg's Josh Morrissey suspended one game for cross-checking Minnesota's Eric Staal.
Welcome to the Stanley Cup Playoffs, Mr. Niku
Id rather we bring him along the same we did Morrissey. Both are the same sorta player with high hockey IQ.
As good and deep as our D is now its only going to get better. If Toby or Myers cant go then ya id put in Niku.
I think Niku is ready for prime time. Nothing more for him to prove in the A, and he did not look out of place playing with Buff in Montreal. I'd bet dollars to donuts that we start next year with that pairing (with Enstrom gone/retired).
If we wrap up the series with 4 starting Dmen out of the lineup, Chevy needs a hat tip...
No surprise on Morrissey.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 19, 2018, 12:52:54 AM
I think Niku is ready for prime time. Nothing more for him to prove in the A, and he did not look out of place playing with Buff in Montreal.
Nice job demonstrating your ignorance. Especially so when you base it on
one game played in the NHL against the disaster that was the 2017-18 Canadiens.
The refs mess up hockey tournaments it doesn't matter at what level. Kinda why I stopped following hockey at all. That an the real jets are in Phoenix lol
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 19, 2018, 04:36:09 AM
The refs mess up hockey tournaments it doesn't matter at what level. Kinda why I stopped following hockey at all. That an the real jets are in Phoenix lol
Shane Doan was the last "real" Jet to play in Phoenix.... as soon as he retired, all of our old ties to the Coyotes ended.... we can now move on! ;) ;) :D :D
Teams that take a 3-1 lead in a best-of-seven #StanleyCup Playoffs series hold an all-time series record of 269-28 (90.6%). #NHLStats @EliasSports
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 19, 2018, 09:30:06 AM
Teams that take a 3-1 lead in a best-of-seven #StanleyCup Playoffs series hold an all-time series record of 269-28 (90.6%). #NHLStats @EliasSports
Of the 28 times a team has come back from a 3-1 deficit in the NHL playoffs, the Winnipeg Jets franchise has lost 3 of them, lol.... (1990, 1992 and 1999 as Coyotes).
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 19, 2018, 01:04:08 AM
No surprise on Morrissey.
Nice job demonstrating your ignorance. Especially so when you base it on one game played in the NHL against the disaster that was the 2017-18 Canadiens.
Agree with your assessment. Ironically though, I think he scored a goal in the only NHL game he has ever played, lol
Quote from: theaardvark on April 19, 2018, 12:52:54 AM
I think Niku is ready for prime time. Nothing more for him to prove in the A, and he did not look out of place playing with Buff in Montreal. I'd bet dollars to donuts that we start next year with that pairing (with Enstrom gone/retired).
If we wrap up the series with 4 starting Dmen out of the lineup, Chevy needs a hat tip...
The Moose boss says it?s a physical thing with Niku (much like with Morrissey and even Scheifele). It?s not that the talent isn?t there, he just needs to get older before he?s ready for the NHL.
Quote from: Jesse on April 19, 2018, 12:19:15 PM
The Moose boss says it?s a physical thing with Niku (much like with Morrissey and even Scheifele). It?s not that the talent isn?t there, he just needs to get older before he?s ready for the NHL.
Yea, ideally we don't see Niku in the playoffs and he is allowed to develop at a more comfortable pace in the regular season next year.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 19, 2018, 12:34:51 PM
Yea, ideally we don't see Niku in the playoffs and he is allowed to develop at a more comfortable pace in the regular season next year.
I'm fine with him coming into the play offs if we need the body (if he is the best option we got, no reason not to use him). But looking forward, I would still expect to see him with the Moose next season as he continues to develop/mature physically.
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Ron MacLean says he hears that Tyler Myers will be good to go for the #NHLJets on Friday.
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Ron MacLean says he hears that Tyler Myers will be good to go for the #NHLJets on Friday.
Very nice!
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 19, 2018, 01:55:59 PM
Very nice!
+1
Excellent news. He'll be needed with Morrissey out for tomorrow.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 19, 2018, 02:02:49 PM
+1
Excellent news. He'll be needed with Morrissey out for tomorrow.
They will have to switch some guys around because Morrissey is a LHD and Myers is a RHD. Pretty sure Morrow and Poolman can play either side, if needed. Trouba can as well, but as we know, he doesn't like playing his off side ;)
Fully expect to see Niku starting with the Jets next season.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 19, 2018, 02:09:48 PM
They will have to switch some guys around because Morrissey is a LHD and Myers is a RHD.
I meant the blue line depth in general. But you're right, Maurice will probably have to mix it up for tomorrow.
Just watched the league's video on the Morrisey suspension... first time I've watch ed one of these. Interesting.
https://www.nhl.com/video/morrissey-suspended-one-game/t-277440360/c-59972103
Quote from: theaardvark on April 19, 2018, 10:42:24 PM
Just watched the league's video on the Morrisey suspension... first time I've watch ed one of these. Interesting.
https://www.nhl.com/video/morrissey-suspended-one-game/t-277440360/c-59972103
They do a good job of explaining the logic behind their decision.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 19, 2018, 10:51:16 PM
They do a good job of explaining the logic behind their decision.
Agreed. It's nice to see the DOPS actually go through what happened and why the decision was made.
That was a direct cross check to the head, to a player who wasn?t engaged in any form of battle, he?s lucky it?s only 1 game
Quote from: dd on April 20, 2018, 02:48:56 AM
That was a direct cross check to the head, to a player who wasn?t engaged in any form of battle, he?s lucky it?s only 1 game
::)
It was the neck, actually. But at least you pay attention.
Quote from: dd on April 20, 2018, 02:48:56 AM
That was a direct cross check to the head, to a player who wasn?t engaged in any form of battle, he?s lucky it?s only 1 game
What saved him was lack of intent. He meant to cross check him (generally allowed in the playoffs), but not in the neck. I don't believe Morrissey is stupid enough to nail Staal above the shoulders right in front of the ref. That also doesn't negate the fact that he made a bad mistake, therefore 1 game is fair.
Nice to see Brodbeck not complain about something for a change:
http://winnipegsun.com/opinion/columnists/brodbeck-0420-brodbeck-col (http://winnipegsun.com/opinion/columnists/brodbeck-0420-brodbeck-col)
Great read!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 20, 2018, 01:47:03 PM
Nice to see Brodbeck not complain about something for a change:
http://winnipegsun.com/opinion/columnists/brodbeck-0420-brodbeck-col (http://winnipegsun.com/opinion/columnists/brodbeck-0420-brodbeck-col)
Great read!
Great read
Mason goes to the locker room after suffering an injury at #NHLJets gameday skate
Tyler Myers is out on the ice for #NHLJets morning skate.
So, if Myers is in, do you sit Poolman and leave Niku in for Morrissey? Or play Poolman on the wrong side?
Quote from: theaardvark on April 20, 2018, 02:55:41 PM
So, if Myers is in, do you sit Poolman and leave Niku in for Morrissey? Or play Poolman on the wrong side?
Poolman and Morrow can both play either side. I doubt we see Niku tonight.
Looks like Niku isn't in, he stayed out for extra practice... so Myers in, and Poolman stays in the lineup...
Myers feeling GOOD TO GO ....... Poolman most likely in & Sami will be fresh for the Moose tomorrow.
Mason continues to be a bit of the Buck Pierce lookalike ......... black cloud season.
I'm going to the game tonight...super pumped!!!
Was just watching Sportsnet it its kinda sounding like Niku might be in the lineup in JM spot.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 20, 2018, 07:49:48 PM
Was just watching Sportsnet it its kinda sounding like Niku might be in the lineup in JM spot.
Interesting. Maybe they're looking for someone with more offensive prowess than a hitter like Poolman?
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 20, 2018, 07:51:16 PM
Interesting. Maybe they're looking for someone with more offensive prowess than a hitter like Poolman?
Niku-Trouba
Morrow-Byfuglien
Chiarot-Myers
?? Works for me. I guess we will see.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 20, 2018, 07:59:43 PM
Niku-Trouba
Morrow-Byfuglien
Chiarot-Myers
?? Works for me. I guess we will see.
Agreed, but I would swap Chiarot and Morrow. I'm liking Ben these days.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 20, 2018, 08:02:49 PM
Agreed, but I would swap Chiarot and Morrow. I'm liking Ben these days.
I was thinking that to. But i think you want Buff and Chiarot on diff lines because they both have big shots from the point.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 20, 2018, 08:06:22 PM
I was thinking that to. But i think you want Buff and Chiarot on diff lines because they both have big shots from the point.
True enough, but so does Myers.
lol, guess it doesn't matter much. We have some good depth. Obviously not at starting talent level but to be depleted 4 starters and not really be too worried is a blessing.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 20, 2018, 08:22:00 PM
True enough, but so does Myers.
lol, guess it doesn't matter much. We have some good depth. Obviously not at starting talent level but to be depleted 4 starters and not really be too worried is a blessing.
I agree. Its krazy how deep we are. And to think we still have 2 other huge guys in the pipe. Stanley and that pther kid that played for the American Jr team. Cant think of his name right now.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 20, 2018, 08:36:48 PM
I agree. Its krazy how deep we are. And to think we still have 2 other huge guys in the pipe. Stanley and that pther kid that played for the American Jr team. Cant think of his name right now.
Dylan Samberg.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 20, 2018, 08:39:44 PM
Dylan Samberg.
Thanks man.
Have a blast at the game tonight!
Oh and if you want to give your ticket away im free. LOL ;D
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 20, 2018, 07:38:03 PM
I'm going to the game tonight...super pumped!!!
Me too. My first playoff game since the Jets came back.... super excited. I am wearing an all-white hazmat suit. lol
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 20, 2018, 08:58:14 PM
Me too. My first playoff game since the Jets came back.... super excited. I am wearing an all-white hazmat suit. lol
Have a blast
Ehlers is out tonight.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 20, 2018, 11:06:32 PM
Ehlers is out tonight.
Hendricks in...what happened to Ehlers?
Ugh... no Ehlers sucks! The stars have aligned for a fairytale story tonight if they win at home. I just hope the Jets do it! I?ve got mixed gut feelings about this one and the gut has been right each game of this series. I think Minny is going to be extra physical tonight as they have nothing to lose by giving their all in an elimination game. No injuries please!
Quote from: The Zipp on April 20, 2018, 11:09:08 PM
Hendricks in...what happened to Ehlers?
Sounds like its just a wear n tear type thing. Took some big hits and a shot off the foot.
Thats all i really heard
Now that is a period of playoff hockey!!!
Insane - the party has moved to portage and main.
Hellybuck is incredible. Back to back shutouts and honestly should have had another in the series.
Enormous win .... fabulous shutout ...... tenacious 5 game effort ........ we the fans are grinning like crazy
Ehlers diagnosis from Maurice - malaise.
I think he just wanted "Rudy" Hendricks to get in...
Chanting Na na na na... hey hey... goodbye with 18 minutes left was pretty cruel...
Great game, everyone pitched in...
Actually, it is quite fitting that the Jets went out tonight and smoked a Dubnyk... on 4-20
Quote from: theaardvark on April 21, 2018, 03:17:16 AM
Ehlers diagnosis from Maurice - malaise.
I think he just wanted "Rudy" Hendricks to get in...
Chanting Na na na na... hey hey... goodbye with 18 minutes left was pretty cruel...
Great game, everyone pitched in...
Winnipeg better get the chanting down.....I hear the predator fans are real good at it.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 21, 2018, 04:11:46 AM
Winnipeg better get the chanting down.....I hear the predator fans are real good at it.
Fact is... We dont have to do nothing.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 21, 2018, 05:14:14 AM
Fact is... We dont have to do nothing.
Then stop dressing up so goofy for television lol......
...preds in six (?)
What an awesome experience last night! Crowd inside was amazing, party outside was crazy! On to the next round ;D 8)
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 21, 2018, 06:35:01 AM
Then stop dressing up so goofy for television lol......
...preds in six (?)
Lol Awww Poor lil guy.
Seems that Whiteout has you all confused again.
19000 people having fun with their hockey team. Why come here to start crap?
You said what you think of it. Now move along.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 21, 2018, 03:17:16 AM
Ehlers diagnosis from Maurice - malaise.
I think he just wanted "Rudy" Hendricks to get in...
Chanting Na na na na... hey hey... goodbye with 18 minutes left was pretty cruel...
Great game, everyone pitched in...
Whats this mean?
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 21, 2018, 09:12:44 AM
What an awesome experience last night! Crowd inside was amazing, party outside was crazy! On to the next round ;D 8)
It looked like alot of fun. 19000 people outside i think they said. Pretty kool.
Pretty good game too. Lol
Quote from: theaardvark on April 21, 2018, 04:01:30 AM
Actually, it is quite fitting that the Jets went out tonight and smoked a Dubnyk... on 4-20
Cheers Aards.... Thats funny.
I am going to the first Moose playoff game today as well.... excited to see what kind of crowd the Moose can draw right now.
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 21, 2018, 11:46:45 AM
I am going to the first Moose playoff game today as well.... excited to see what kind of crowd the Moose can draw right now.
That should be fun too.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 21, 2018, 12:11:47 PM
That should be fun too.
I am wondering if the Moose will get a good crowd for the playoffs with all the Jets excitement happening right now. I don't really know of any dedicated Moose fans.... they just seem to be a consolation for when you can't get tickets for the Jets.
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 21, 2018, 12:44:30 PM
I am wondering if the Moose will get a good crowd for the playoffs with all the Jets excitement happening right now. I don't really know of any dedicated Moose fans.... they just seem to be a consolation for when you can't get tickets for the Jets.
I know a bunch of Moose fans that are going.
Tough gig for the Moose but they know the goal is to get the big team a Cup.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 21, 2018, 12:56:58 PM
I know a bunch of Moose fans that are going.
Tough gig for the Moose but they know the goal is to get the big team a Cup.
Can't beat the price. Still lots of good seats left. I got tickets this morning for 28 bucks a piece (plus fees) in the 100s section, row 10.
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 21, 2018, 01:45:04 PM
Can't beat the price. Still lots of good seats left. I got tickets this morning for 28 bucks a piece (plus fees) in the 100s section, row 10.
There?s lots of $10 off promo codes around too. Hope you used one of those. The one I have is LETLOOSE, which gives you $10 off each ticket.
I was at games 1 and 5 this series. Big difference in atmosphere between the two games. Game 1 felt more surreal and was more intense, where game 5 felt more like a party, especially in the third period.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 21, 2018, 01:50:17 PM
I was at games 1 and 5 this series. Big difference in atmosphere between the two games. Game 1 felt more surreal and was more intense, where game 5 felt more like a party, especially in the third period.
Definitely has to do with the score. Game 1 was so close and "exciting", barely winning 3-2. Game 5 would be more of a party being up 5-0.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 21, 2018, 01:50:17 PM
I was at games 1 and 5 this series. Big difference in atmosphere between the two games. Game 1 felt more surreal and was more intense, where game 5 felt more like a party, especially in the third period.
Game 1 will always feel that way as teams sorta feel eachother out.
The Jets came out last night on a mission to put it away quick. They seemed to know what to do to the wild.
Both teams after 4 games no what to expect from each other. Its all about who can push their game on the other.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 21, 2018, 10:30:04 AM
Whats this mean?
You've never watched Rudy? Poor fellow...
Quote from: theaardvark on April 21, 2018, 03:57:46 PM
You've never watched Rudy? Poor fellow...
Well what does that have to do with anything?
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 21, 2018, 04:08:40 PM
Well what does that have to do with anything?
Everything, it has everything to do with it.
NHL Public Relations @PR_NHL
The @NHLJets became the first team to post a series-clinching shutout win by a margin of 5+ goals since @SanJoseSharks in #Game7 of the 2016 Conference Semifinals vs. NSH (5-0 W). #NHLStats #StanleyCup
Its great seeing the league want to keep putting out the Jets name, but attaching "records" like this to truly historic events kinda waters down the message...
We're we the first team to clinch a first round playoff series with only 2 left handed D playing in the final game? Or some other less important "stat"?
2 back to back shutouts by a 24 year old, most wins by an American goalie in a season... these are not "records" that anyone follows... might be an interesting tidbit for a colour guy to quote during a braodcast, sure, fill in empty air, but more than that? Nah..
Quote from: theaardvark on April 21, 2018, 05:31:23 PM
Everything, it has everything to do with it.
Can you explain? Im not being a smartass i really dont get it.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 21, 2018, 05:47:16 PM
NHL Public Relations @PR_NHL
The @NHLJets became the first team to post a series-clinching shutout win by a margin of 5+ goals since @SanJoseSharks in #Game7 of the 2016 Conference Semifinals vs. NSH (5-0 W). #NHLStats #StanleyCup
Its great seeing the league want to keep putting out the Jets name, but attaching "records" like this to truly historic events kinda waters down the message...
We're we the first team to clinch a first round playoff series with only 2 left handed D playing in the final game? Or some other less important "stat"?
2 back to back shutouts by a 24 year old, most wins by an American goalie in a season... these are not "records" that anyone follows... might be an interesting tidbit for a colour guy to quote during a braodcast, sure, fill in empty air, but more than that? Nah..
Is this a real stat? I think the Wings won a Cup series with all left or right guys.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 21, 2018, 06:13:56 PM
Can you explain? Im not being a smartass i really dont get it.
I could be wrong, but I am assuming that he means that Hendricks is some sort of underdog like Rudy was and everyone is cheering for him?
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 21, 2018, 08:42:34 PM
I could be wrong, but I am assuming that he means that Hendricks is some sort of underdog like Rudy was and everyone is cheering for him?
Hendricks has been a catalyst all season, in or out of the lineup, the vet presence, the guy choosing the dressing room music, etc. Now, during the biggest games of the year, he's in the pressbox. So, maybe all the players lined up and said, "Put Matty in for me, coach" and put their sweaters on his desk... and Ehlers was the one chosen to sit.
Or maybe he was just feeling under the weather... "malaise" as it were.
Interesting "colour guy" tidbit... in 2010, he apparently signed with the Caps to work under the tutelage of Bruce Boudreau...
Quote from: theaardvark on April 21, 2018, 09:27:48 PM
Hendricks has been a catalyst all season, in or out of the lineup, the vet presence, the guy choosing the dressing room music, etc. Now, during the biggest games of the year, he's in the pressbox. So, maybe all the players lined up and said, "Put Matty in for me, coach" and put their sweaters on his desk... and Ehlers was the one chosen to sit.
Or maybe he was just feeling under the weather... "malaise" as it were.
Interesting "colour guy" tidbit... in 2010, he apparently signed with the Caps to work under the tutelage of Bruce Boudreau...
That is quite the stretch if you are trying to compare Hendricks-Ehlers situation to the movie Rudy.
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 21, 2018, 09:34:35 PM
That is quite the stretch if you are trying to compare Hendricks-Ehlers situation to the movie Rudy.
It was a bloody joke... wow... of course I don't think they would have done that for Hendricks. Well... I'm pretty sure they didn't. Although with this group... nah. But maybe...
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 21, 2018, 09:34:35 PM
That is quite the stretch if you are trying to compare Hendricks-Ehlers situation to the movie Rudy.
Good grief.
Im sitting here n thinking.... Its not the same at all.
Are you sure you dont smoke weed Aards? If not maybe give it a try.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 21, 2018, 10:11:51 AM
Lol Awww Poor lil guy.
Seems that Whiteout has you all confused again.
19000 people having fun with their hockey team. Why come here to start crap?
You said what you think of it. Now move along.
Just ignore him and those pathetic contributions to this forum.
Friday night was an unreal experience downtown and the Jets put on a hell of a show inside the arena to move on to the next round. The energy inside Bell MTS Place was phenomenal and the home team set the tone early on never looked back. An unforgettable night for this city and the fans of this team.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 21, 2018, 09:36:22 PM
It was a bloody joke...
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Pretty sure we can now call the Preds-Avs series over tonight... Sucks to not have home advantage in our upcoming series. It should be an all out dogfight between the top two teams with the Jets coming out on top! I?m guessing the series might begin with Friday and Sunday in Nashville. Or Thursday and Saturday? Maybe the Jets can actually make it onto CBC this time ::)
Jets are 15-2 in their last 17 games. Preds are 10-7. For March and April, Preds are 18-8 and the Jets are 19-5. Also, of the last two regular season losses the Jets have had, after the first loss they went on a six game winning streak, and the second loss a seven game winning streak. So counting our beat down loss from the Wild, Jets have four or five more wins in a row coming up, which would sweep the Preds lol! If only! It will be a very tough, grinding series but I like our odds. Jets are the hotter team and we?re getting closer to being our healthiest in a while. Go Jets Go!
This is going to be an exciting series! Just gotta win once on the road and continue to dominate at home.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 23, 2018, 01:47:38 PM
This is going to be an exciting series! Just gotta win once on the road and continue to dominate at home.
That's my thinking too. We didn't have a very good record against the Preds in the regular season though, and one of our wins against them was versus their backup goaltender. But the playoffs are a totally different beast.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 23, 2018, 02:33:12 PM
That's my thinking too. We didn't have a very good record against the Preds in the regular season though, and one of our wins against them was versus their backup goaltender. But the playoffs are a totally different beast.
One of their wins was against our backup-backup goaltender.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on April 23, 2018, 02:47:55 PM
One of their wins was against our backup-backup goaltender.
Our win on the road was against Rinne and we won 6-4 in Nashville. (Rinne allowed 5 goals on 35 shots).
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on April 23, 2018, 02:47:55 PM
One of their wins was against our backup-backup goaltender.
That's good to know. Which backup...Hutch, Comrie or Mason?
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 23, 2018, 03:06:48 PM
That's good to know. Which backup...Hutch, Comrie or Mason?
Hutchinson got the start on Mar. 13 in Nashville. The Jets surrendered 2 SHGs on a single power play and he was promptly pulled for Hellebuyck who saved all 30 shots he faced.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 23, 2018, 03:09:40 PM
Hutchinson got the start on Mar. 13 in Nashville. The Jets surrendered 2 SHGs on a single power play and he was promptly pulled for Hellebuyck who saved all 30 shots he faced.
Thanks...now I remember that game. So that wasn't really against our backup.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 23, 2018, 03:10:57 PM
Thanks...now I remember that game. So that wasn't really against our backup.
Sure it was. Hutchinson allowed the 3 goals and thus collected the loss.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 23, 2018, 03:17:22 PM
Sure it was. Hutchinson allowed the 3 goals and thus collected the loss.
Yea, you are right.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 23, 2018, 03:17:22 PM
Sure it was. Hutchinson allowed the 3 goals and thus collected the loss.
Yup
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 23, 2018, 03:09:40 PM
Hutchinson got the start on Mar. 13 in Nashville. The Jets surrendered 2 SHGs on a single power play and he was promptly pulled for Hellebuyck who saved all 30 shots he faced.
Was that not also the game where we had a large number of starters out?
The biggest thing I fear from this series is injuries to key players. If my memory serves me well, I think it was the last game that the Jets played them that they were running into our goalie a lot and giving extra shots after the whistles. Jets have to be very physical but stay out of the box at the same time. I would be happy if the Jets could steal a win in the first two games.
Any predictions for what the schedule will be like? Kinda seems like we will probably start the next series on the earlier side which I think might be Thursday, and probably play game 2 Saturday. Hope they release it soon- need to plan my life around this ;D
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 23, 2018, 04:27:32 PM
Any predictions for what the schedule will be like? Kinda seems like we will probably start the next series on the earlier side which I think might be Thursday, and probably play game 2 Saturday. Hope they release it soon- need to plan my life around this ;D
Ya I heard first game will either be Thursday or Friday, but likely Thursday. Then I heard through an unconfirmed source, that game two will depend on whether the Leafs or Boston advance. If it's the Leafs then the Leafs will play the Saturday, and the Jets would play Sunday. But if Boston advances, then the Jets would play game two on Saturday.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 23, 2018, 04:11:21 PM
Was that not also the game where we had a large number of starters out?
The biggest thing I fear from this series is injuries to key players. If my memory serves me well, I think it was the last game that the Jets played them that they were running into our goalie a lot and giving extra shots after the whistles. Jets have to be very physical but stay out of the box at the same time. I would be happy if the Jets could steal a win in the first two games.
that would be great...coming home down 2 is tough. These playoffs will be such on grind on the emotions...how do the fans of the Penguins do it so much??
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 23, 2018, 04:39:13 PM
Ya I heard first game will either be Thursday or Friday, but likely Thursday. Then I heard through an unconfirmed source, that game two will depend on whether the Leafs or Boston advance. If it's the Leafs then the Leafs will play the Saturday, and the Jets would play Sunday. But if Boston advances, then the Jets would play game two on Saturday.
lol, Centre of the Universe just HAS to be showcased on a Saturday night, as all the nation waits to see the mighty, storied Leafs. lol.
You'd hope that they'll announce the next round's schedule today. With only one series left and the winner playing at Tampa to start, you should be able to give both possibilities: "If Boston wins the schedule is ___, and if Toronto wins the schedule is ___."
Why make everyone else wait just because the Leafs aren't choking like they're supposed to?
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 21, 2018, 09:34:35 PM
That is quite the stretch if you are trying to compare Hendricks-Ehlers situation to the movie Rudy.
It's beyond reasonable comprehension. Let's just pretend for one minute that this was even a remote possibility, which it isn't, and say the Jets wanted to somehow get Hendricks into the game as a reward. There are 4-5 forwards the Jets would sit before Ehlers. I have to wonder in what world Aards lives in that he thinks taking out your second line 30 goal winger and replacing him with a fringe NHL 4th liner is even remotely plausible in the playoffs.
That would be like the Bombers deciding to sit Harris in the 2nd half of the playoff game last year because Normand worked so hard all year.
Quote from: Stretch on April 24, 2018, 01:46:59 PM
You'd hope that they'll announce the next round's schedule today. With only one series left and the winner playing at Tampa to start, you should be able to give both possibilities: "If Boston wins the schedule is ___, and if Toronto wins the schedule is ___."
Why make everyone else wait just because the Leafs aren't choking like they're supposed to?
Game 7 chokes are the best.
I think we have a great chance of beating Nashville. We can more than match their physicality and we will wear down their defence. The regular season means little. We are bigger, stronger, faster, and deeper than they are. If we play smart we should be able to get past them.
Quote from: GCn17 on April 24, 2018, 02:58:36 PM
I think we have a great chance of beating Nashville. We can more than match their physicality and we will wear down their defence. The regular season means little. We are bigger, stronger, faster, and deeper than they are. If we play smart we should be able to get past them.
I would be scared if this were a one-game-take-all scenario, but I am more optimistic over the course of a 7 game series. The games will be tightly contested, that's for sure.
It is sad that the #1 and #2 seeds *in the league* are meeting in round 2, and having finished with the second best record in the LEAGUE, we do not have home ice advantage, which will be HUGE in this series.
The crowds are a huge factor, but even more so is the ability to match lines. We night have a little advantage in being able to confidently ice any line against any line they have, and if our D are rested and healthy, that will help huge.
Cherry has the Jets winning the cup, and he's not a dumb man when it comes to the game.
Jets in 6, clinching another series at home...
Quote from: Jesse on April 24, 2018, 03:17:33 PM
I would be scared if this were a one-game-take-all scenario, but I am more optimistic over the course of a 7 game series. The games will be tightly contested, that's for sure.
I think we pound them into submission.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 24, 2018, 04:25:40 PM
It is sad that the #1 and #2 seeds *in the league* are meeting in round 2, and having finished with the second best record in the LEAGUE, we do not have home ice advantage, which will be HUGE in this series.
The crowds are a huge factor, but even more so is the ability to match lines. We night have a little advantage in being able to confidently ice any line against any line they have, and if our D are rested and healthy, that will help huge.
Cherry has the Jets winning the cup, and he's not a dumb man when it comes to the game.
Jets in 6, clinching another series at home...
The current NHL playoff system is a travesty. We are likely going to see Boston/Tampa and Winnipeg/Nashville in the 2nd round and two of the best teams in the NHL are going down. Stupid. It may not turn out any differently with the old format, but it probably would have.
Quote from: Jesse on April 24, 2018, 03:17:33 PM
I would be scared if this were a one-game-take-all scenario, but I am more optimistic over the course of a 7 game series. The games will be tightly contested, that's for sure.
I think we need to weather the storm early in the series in Nashville. We get a split there and we are in great shape because I don't think they can stay with us over 5,6,7 games. We just gotta win one on the road and this series flips to our favor big time.
Quote from: GCn17 on April 24, 2018, 08:16:30 PM
The current NHL playoff system is a travesty. We are likely going to see Boston/Tampa and Winnipeg/Nashville in the 2nd round and two of the best teams in the NHL are going down. Stupid. It may not turn out any differently with the old format, but it probably would have.
Toronto beats boston
Quote from: GCn17 on April 24, 2018, 08:16:30 PM
The current NHL playoff system is a travesty. We are likely going to see Boston/Tampa and Winnipeg/Nashville in the 2nd round and two of the best teams in the NHL are going down. Stupid. It may not turn out any differently with the old format, but it probably would have.
It's not necessarily a travesty. It's a format meant to showcase division rivalries first and foremost and emphasize the importance of being strong in one's own division.
Using the previous format (1-8, 2-7, 3-6, 4-5), the first round would've looked like this:
EAST:
TB - NJ same
BOS - CBJ
WSH - PHI
TOR - PIT
WEST:
NSH - COL same
WPG - LA
VGK - SJ
MIN - ANA
It's not really that different, save for the 4-5 matchups which pit the middle-of-pack teams against each other in the opening round.
It is unfortunate to see the top two teams in the league face off in the second round but that's more of aberration than the current system being flawed, IMO.
Jets play Friday on CBC
Quote from: The Zipp on April 24, 2018, 10:41:30 PM
Jets play Friday on CBC
A full week off is not ideal in my opinion.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 24, 2018, 10:45:50 PM
A full week off is not ideal in my opinion.
I think going up against the Preds this is good for us.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 24, 2018, 10:45:50 PM
A full week off is not ideal in my opinion.
They will get their groove back quickly...keep the Preds from scoring in the first 10 minutes and after a few shifts for everyone they will be in sync. Preds are a great team - but at this point all the teams are great teams and will have opportunities to win a game. I suspect we may see some OT this series.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 24, 2018, 04:25:40 PM
It is sad that the #1 and #2 seeds *in the league* are meeting in round 2, and having finished with the second best record in the LEAGUE, we do not have home ice advantage, which will be HUGE in this series.
The crowds are a huge factor, but even more so is the ability to match lines. We night have a little advantage in being able to confidently ice any line against any line they have, and if our D are rested and healthy, that will help huge.
Cherry has the Jets winning the cup, and he's not a dumb man when it comes to the game.
Jets in 6, clinching another series at home...
Not that it really makes a difference.... but Cherry said the Jets "make the finals" - not win the Cup. Cherry is a big Eastern conference guy, so no big surprise there.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 24, 2018, 10:45:50 PM
A full week off is not ideal in my opinion.
Meh. If you win a series in 5 games, it?s something you have to deal with. Rest and practice is not a bad thing right now.
Quote from: Jesse on April 25, 2018, 12:14:56 PM
Rest and practice is not a bad thing right now.
Exactly. It's not like they've been doing nothing during the break.
Quote from: Jesse on April 25, 2018, 12:14:56 PM
Meh. If you win a series in 5 games, it?s something you have to deal with. Rest and practice is not a bad thing right now.
Long term it?ll help, but I think it?ll hurt game one of the series.
Quote from: Stretch on April 25, 2018, 12:55:01 PM
Exactly. It's not like they've been doing nothing during the break.
Thanks...I?m fully aware they?re practicing and not sitting on the couch at home eating Doritos. Practice isn?t the same intensity as playing in a game. I seem to recall after the Jets breaks this season, the first game back they were a little sluggish.
I initially was worried about the team having a week off, but now it means we likely will get a couple of good players back playing. Plus, it's been reported that the Jets have been practicing hard which means that their intensity is high. That's good news. I think the Jets will come out very strong on Friday and will be quick (hopefully) to silence their crowd. Jets FINALLY make CBC for a game that doesn't involve them playing the leafs ::) Is it Friday yet??
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 25, 2018, 12:55:05 PM
Long term it?ll help, but I think it?ll hurt game one of the series.
Based on what...? The Predators have been sitting idle for two less days. Is that really an advantage after playing one more game in the first round?
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 25, 2018, 12:56:22 PM
I seem to recall after the Jets breaks this season, the first game back they were a little sluggish.
After the Christmas break (3 days), the Jets won three in a row and 4-0-1 over 5 games. After their bye week (6 days), they won 3 in a row and went 3-0-1 into the All-Star Break. After that break (4 days), they beat the lead-leaguing Lightning to go 3-1-1 through their next 5 games.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 25, 2018, 01:16:47 PM
Based on what...? The Predators have been sitting idle for two less days. Is that really an advantage after playing one more game in the first round?
After the Christmas break (3 days), the Jets won three in a row and 4-0-1 over 5 games. After their bye week (6 days), they won 3 in a row and went 3-0-1 into the All-Star Break. After that break (4 days), they beat the lead-leaguing Lightning to go 3-1-1 through their next 5 games.
Thanks for those stats. While they may have won those games I recall that they were still sluggish. I don?t recall which game it was, but I remember the commentators saying both teams looked sluggish coming out of the break, and you can?t get that from the stats. Now the Preds have a break too, but it?s not quite as long as the Jets, but maybe that will equalize the Jets long break...who knows.
Either way, I?ve got my opinion and you?ve got yours. I sure hope they come out flying on Friday. But I still feel the one week off won?t help for game one. Long term, if the Jets make a long playoff run I think it definitely helps.
Pretty stoked we have gotten 3 Friday games so far- those are the best. Projecting a bit, it is likely we will play in game 2 Sunday night, then come back to Wpg for Wednesday and Friday again next week. That's a great schedule if it's reality.
Either top eight in each division play off, 1 through 8, or a top 16 bracket regardless of division... having the two best teams face off in round 2 is wrong.
1 plays WC2
2 plays wc1
3 plays 6
4 plays 5
Makes sense. That puts the top 2 teams into a playoff round no earlier than the division finals.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 25, 2018, 03:33:20 PM
Either top eight in each division play off, 1 through 8, or a top 16 bracket regardless of division... having the two best teams face off in round 2 is wrong.
1 plays WC2
2 plays wc1
3 plays 6
4 plays 5
Makes sense. That puts the top 2 teams into a playoff round no earlier than the division finals.
Except the second round under the current format
is the division finals. The next round is then the conference finals between the winners of each division.
VGK - SJ (Pacific Division)
NSH - WPG (Central Division)
WSH - PIT (Metropolitan Division)
TB - BOS/TOR (Atlantic Division)
This system has its flaws. But the previous one did, too.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 25, 2018, 03:46:32 PM
Except the second round under the current format is the division finals. The next round is then the conference finals between the winners of each division.
VGK - SJ (Pacific Division)
NSH - WPG (Central Division)
WSH - PIT (Metropolitan Division)
TB - BOS/TOR (Atlantic Division)
This system has its flaws. But the previous one did, too.
Sorry.. conference finals... too many groupings...
Wow... now we have to worry about this...
Luc Lewandoski @LucLewandoski
Watching the March 25th Jets-Predator replay on Sportsnet. For the love of the Golden Boy, please don?t boo PK Subban only Winnipeg. It?s a very bad look.
Between Subban and a possible Kane return in Round Three, fans don?t want to ruin the positive vibes and become the story.
Really? Fans dressed in white booing a player that happens to not be white? Not because of the colour of his skin, but because he is a detestable player?
I could understand if hoods, khaki pants and crosses were involved. But seriously, the white out is far from having anything of a racial motivation. Even suggesting that the "optics" for fans hating on an opposing player who happens to be black is crazy.
But you know now, some media types will start on about the article on Winnipeg being "Canada's Most Racist City", and we will be dragged back down that avenue again.
Its hockey. Subban and Kane are easy to hate. Just like Marchand, Kessler, Lucic... not because of the colour of their skin, because they are aholes on and off the ice... giving them a pass on that because of the colour of their skin is a disservice to racial equality. All men should be created equal, to love or hate without regard to race, creed or religion.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 25, 2018, 04:10:17 PM
Sorry.. conference finals... too many groupings...
Yeah, two is a difficult number to grasp. :D
Quote from: theaardvark on April 25, 2018, 04:20:58 PM
Wow... now we have to worry about this...
Luc Lewandoski @LucLewandoski
Watching the March 25th Jets-Predator replay on Sportsnet. For the love of the Golden Boy, please don?t boo PK Subban only Winnipeg. It?s a very bad look.
Between Subban and a possible Kane return in Round Three, fans don?t want to ruin the positive vibes and become the story.
Really? Fans dressed in white booing a player that happens to not be white? Not because of the colour of his skin, but because he is a detestable player?
I could understand if hoods, khaki pants and crosses were involved. But seriously, the white out is far from having anything of a racial motivation. Even suggesting that the "optics" for fans hating on an opposing player who happens to be black is crazy.
But you know now, some media types will start on about the article on Winnipeg being "Canada's Most Racist City", and we will be dragged back down that avenue again.
Its hockey. Subban and Kane are easy to hate. Just like Marchand, Kessler, Lucic... not because of the colour of their skin, because they are aholes on and off the ice... giving them a pass on that because of the colour of their skin is a disservice to racial equality. All men should be created equal, to love or hate without regard to race, creed or religion.
I agree that Kane, Marchand, Kessler, Lucic are easy to hate but I don't think Subban falls under this category. Man donated $10 million to a children's hospital when he was in Montreal.
Also in my opinion we mostly boo the other teams best players to try and throw them off their game not really so much cause we 'hate' them.
Quote from: bluengold204 on April 25, 2018, 04:36:14 PM
I agree that Kane, Marchand, Kessler, Lucic are easy to hate but I don't think Subban falls under this category. Man donated $10 million to a children's hospital when he was in Montreal.
Also in my opinion we mostly boo the other teams best players to try and throw them off their game not really so much cause we 'hate' them.
So, because he's a good humanitarian off the ice means he should be exempt from being booed for his greaseball antics on the ice...? Like Marchand and Kesler, Subban is an agitator. That and only that is why he gets booed.
Just another stupid tweet from another obviously stupid person. And a weak attempt at virtue signalling.
Quote from: bluengold204 on April 25, 2018, 04:36:14 PM
I agree that Kane, Marchand, Kessler, Lucic are easy to hate but I don't think Subban falls under this category. Man donated $10 million to a children's hospital when he was in Montreal.
Also in my opinion we mostly boo the other teams best players to try and throw them off their game not really so much cause we 'hate' them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCds9GDzDIQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCds9GDzDIQ)
SUbban, at the best of times, is a dirty player. You can call it "competitive" or "gritty" but he's just plain dirty and annoying to boot. He might be a saint off ice, and donations like his children's hospital one are great, but it doesn't excuse elbows to the head of a star player, or the myriad other infractions / suspensions he has accumulated...
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m276/wayside616/Hockey/subban2.jpg)
He's no angel, and easy to "BOOOOOO".
I boo PK because he's a ***** (on the ice).
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 25, 2018, 04:41:25 PM
So, because he's a good humanitarian off the ice means he should be exempt from being booed for his greaseball antics on the ice...? Like Marchand and Kesler, Subban is an agitator. That and only that is why he gets booed.
Just another stupid tweet from another obviously stupid person. And a weak attempt at virtue signalling.
Didn't say that at all, was pointing out that hes not as big of an ******* as you guys seem to think he is, especially when people are saying he is a dick off the ice as well.
You can boo him all you want for your own reasons, but Subban is one of Nashvilles best players, a Norris finalist if I'm not mistaken. Personally I would boo him to try and throw him off his game, he will see lots of minutes and him not playing his best will help us. Not cause he threw a couple dirty hits throughout his career. So no his agitator antics is not the only he gets boo'd.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 25, 2018, 04:58:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCds9GDzDIQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCds9GDzDIQ)
SUbban, at the best of times, is a dirty player. You can call it "competitive" or "gritty" but he's just plain dirty and annoying to boot. He might be a saint off ice, and donations like his children's hospital one are great, but it doesn't excuse elbows to the head of a star player, or the myriad other infractions / suspensions he has accumulated...
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m276/wayside616/Hockey/subban2.jpg)
He's no angel, and easy to "BOOOOOO".
Meh I've seen worse... Morrissey's cross check to Staal's neck comes to mind
just got an email that BellMTS Place will be open for the away games vs Nashville. Tickets are $10 each...all concessions open...
I think i prefer my living room but could be a fun atmosphere for some
Quote from: bluengold204 on April 25, 2018, 06:46:00 PM
Didn't say that at all, was pointing out that hes not as big of an ******* as you guys seem to think he is, especially when people are saying he is a dick off the ice as well.
You can boo him all you want for your own reasons, but Subban is one of Nashvilles best players, a Norris finalist if I'm not mistaken. Personally I would boo him to try and throw him off his game, he will see lots of minutes and him not playing his best will help us. Not cause he threw a couple dirty hits throughout his career. So no his agitator antics is not the only he gets boo'd.
Who criticized PK Subban the person? He gets booed and criticized for his antics on the ice. Same as basically every other agitator, skilled or not, who gets booed by opposing teams' fans.
I don't even know what to make of the second paragraph. Maybe review it and try again. :-\
Quote from: bluengold204 on April 25, 2018, 06:47:38 PM
Meh I've seen worse... Morrissey's cross check to Staal's neck comes to mind
Yes... What another player did surely excuses Subban's dirty plays.
Quote from: The Zipp on April 25, 2018, 07:17:07 PM
just got an email that BellMTS Place will be open for the away games vs Nashville. Tickets are $10 each...all concessions open...
I think i prefer my living room but could be a fun atmosphere for some
Good idea. I?m sure there will be lots of interest. But I prefer my living room as well, especially for an away game.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 25, 2018, 07:17:23 PM
Who criticized PK Subban the person? He gets booed and criticized for his antics on the ice. Same as basically every other agitator, skilled or not, who gets booed by opposing teams' fans.
I don't even know what to make of the second paragraph. Maybe review it and try again. :-\
Yes... What another player did surely excuses Subban's dirty plays.
theaardvark
I don't care enough to review my previous post, the gist is that he also gets boo'd for being a top talent not just because he's an agitator.
Not what I was implying but ok...
Here's the link for anyone interested in the viewing party at BellMTS Place: https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/jets-to-host-away-game-viewing-parties-at-bell-mts-place/c-298249536 (https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/jets-to-host-away-game-viewing-parties-at-bell-mts-place/c-298249536)
Tickets are $10 and go on sale tomorrow. All proceeds from admission will go to the True North Youth Foundation. Doors open at 6:00pm on Friday.
Quote from: The Zipp on April 25, 2018, 07:17:07 PM
just got an email that BellMTS Place will be open for the away games vs Nashville. Tickets are $10 each...all concessions open...
I think i prefer my living room but could be a fun atmosphere for some
I would rather them have the street party open is that happening or just the MTS Centre?
Street party is just for home games
Quote from: bluengold204 on April 25, 2018, 07:47:25 PM
theaardvark
So, just one person. Not multiple people.
Quote from: bluengold204 on April 25, 2018, 07:51:21 PM
I would rather them have the street party open is that happening or just the MTS Centre?
Whiteout Street Parties are just for home games.
Quote from: bluengold204 on April 25, 2018, 07:51:21 PM
I would rather them have the street party open is that happening or just the MTS Centre?
Street partys should only be for home games.
Quote from: bluengold204 on April 25, 2018, 06:46:00 PM
Didn't say that at all, was pointing out that hes not as big of an ******* as you guys seem to think he is, especially when people are saying he is a dick off the ice as well.
You can boo him all you want for your own reasons, but Subban is one of Nashvilles best players, a Norris finalist if I'm not mistaken. Personally I would boo him to try and throw him off his game, he will see lots of minutes and him not playing his best will help us. Not cause he threw a couple dirty hits throughout his career. So no his agitator antics is not the only he gets boo'd.
Norris trophy candidate... I've heard more than once "How can a guy be in the top 3 D in the leauge when he isn't in the top 3 D on his team?" which makes me chuckle...
He is easy to boo. That's all. He attracts attention with his actions on the ice, and fans have the right to choose their way of reacting. If he is given a pass on being boo'ed because the fans are dressed in white and he is black, then that is sad.
Others may have seen this ........ a sign is still flashing the news of the upcoming, (snicker, snicker) April 20th game on Portage Avenue.
Just before Maryland as I was travelling East this morning, I saw the info of the game & of Donald street being closed & that an alternate route should be used
........ cannot get over that this sign has probably been flashing this info since April 20th.
Laine, who reportedly had left the 2 previous practises early, was not involved on the ice today in practise, apparently ......... Malaise ???
Armia, in a non contact jersey today, may still be a battler for Friday's game. Hope that occurs, as I would prefer him in over Hendricks.
Toby E. again was supposedly paired with Buff. Chiarot looks to be odd man out, as Morrow is with Myers.
the time off was I'm sure great for many of the aches & strategizing. Jets will be firing hot & trying to make the Preds look normal, I have no doubt.
Unconfirmed first 4 Jets games:
Game 1: Friday 7:00pm
Game 2: Sunday TBD
Game 3: Tuesday 8:30pm
Game 4: Thursday 8:30pm
Quote from: Jockitch on April 25, 2018, 09:55:18 PM
Others may have seen this ........ a sign is still flashing the news of the upcoming, (snicker, snicker) April 20th game on Portage Avenue.
Just before Maryland as I was travelling East this morning, I saw the info of the game & of Donald street being closed & that an alternate route should be used
........ cannot get over that this sign has probably been flashing this info since April 20th.
Laine, who reportedly had left the 2 previous practises early, was not involved on the ice today in practise, apparently ......... Malaise ???
Armia, in a non contact jersey today, may still be a battler for Friday's game. Hope that occurs, as I would prefer him in over Hendricks.
Toby E. again was supposedly paired with Buff. Chiarot looks to be odd man out, as Morrow is with Myers.
the time off was I'm sure great for many of the aches & strategizing. Jets will be firing hot & trying to make the Preds look normal, I have no doubt.
Id be suprissed if we change up our D.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 25, 2018, 10:57:14 PM
Id be suprissed if we change up our D.
I don?t think we should either, but I think Enstrom might be returning to the lineup for this series.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 25, 2018, 10:27:26 PM
Unconfirmed first 4 Jets games:
Game 1: Friday 7:00pm
Game 2: Sunday TBD
Game 3: Tuesday 8:30pm
Game 4: Thursday 8:30pm
Thanks
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 25, 2018, 11:18:21 PM
I don?t think we should either, but I think Enstrom might be returning to the lineup for this series.
Could be. Its hard to say this long before a game.
The Jets are said to be a team that practices really hard. Lots of fast paced skating. Could just be they have Toby out there to see if he can keep up to a somewhat game speed.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on April 25, 2018, 11:22:20 PM
Thanks
NHL released official schedule and the Sunday game is at 6, and the Tuesday game is at 7 (not 8:30). The rest of what I posted is the same.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 26, 2018, 09:06:10 AM
NHL released official schedule and the Sunday game is at 6, and the Tuesday game is at 7 (not 8:30). The rest of what I posted is the same.
thanks again
Here are some injury updates...
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nhl/3682/joel-armia
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nhl/2255/toby-enstrom
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nhl/2866/mathieu-perreault
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nhl/2221/steve-mason
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nhl/2989/dmitry-kulikov
https://www.tsn.ca/how-the-jets-grew-to-be-stanley-cup-contenders-1.1069834
Good read
If they beat the Preds, do they become the SC favourite?
Daniel Negraneau is trying to get a sneaky bet in, even money, Jets/Preds series. He wants to bet how long the series goes. He wants 5 and 7, vs 4 and 6 for even money. Is this an angle shoot at getting an even money bet in against the Jets?
Quote from: theaardvark on April 27, 2018, 04:11:13 PM
If they beat the Preds, do they become the SC favourite?
Daniel Negraneau is trying to get a sneaky bet in, even money, Jets/Preds series. He wants to bet how long the series goes. He wants 5 and 7, vs 4 and 6 for even money. Is this an angle shoot at getting an even money bet in against the Jets?
I think, once you get past the second round, there aren't any favourites. Only real contenders can get through two full rounds.
In the West, Vegas is a real wild card, no one expected what they're doing. In the East, Boston and Pittsburgh are powerhouses.
Quote from: Jesse on April 27, 2018, 04:23:26 PM
I think, once you get past the second round, there aren't any favourites. Only real contenders can get through two full rounds.
In the West, Vegas is a real wild card, no one expected what they're doing. In the East, Boston and Pittsburgh are powerhouses.
I agree except for the bolded part. I'd put the Bolts in the powerhouse category with the Penguins not far behind (back-to-back championships runs go a long way for experience) and the Capitals behind them (for obvious reasons related to consistent choking to the Penguins). The Bruins looks pretty mortal outside of their top line and didn't look all that hot down the stretch in the first round. They'll have their hands full against a deep, skilled, and fast Lightning team and could be in for some trouble if they look anything similar to the opening round vs. a pretty unbalanced Leafs team. Presently, I'd say they're the weakest team in the East.
As for the West, if the Jets can move on to the WCF, anything is possible. But I don't think it'd be prudent to label them Stanley Cup favourites if they have to face the Knights, who absolutely put the boots to the Sharks last night. The only plus for the Jets in a WPG-VGK series is the Jets would have home ice advantage.
Laine is practicing this morning. Chiarot and Enstrom are both in, so looks like Morrow is out tonight. Perreault is practicing with a non-contact jersey.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 27, 2018, 03:47:02 PM
https://www.tsn.ca/how-the-jets-grew-to-be-stanley-cup-contenders-1.1069834
Good read
This was a great read.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 27, 2018, 04:41:21 PM
Laine is practicing this morning. Chiarot and Enstrom are both in, so looks like Morrow is out tonight. Perreault is practicing with a non-contact jersey.
Hopefully Perreault is back for the end of this series. I think Morrow will see some time in this series somehow...
Quote from: The Zipp on April 27, 2018, 05:37:59 PM
Hopefully Perreault is back for the end of this series. I think Morrow will see some time in this series somehow...
Probably next games, since Enstrom can't last a game these days without getting injured.
Laine says he's good to go: https://www.tsn.ca/laine-says-he-s-good-to-go-tonight-1.1070013 (https://www.tsn.ca/laine-says-he-s-good-to-go-tonight-1.1070013)
Sounds like the only forward out tonight is Armia.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 27, 2018, 04:40:11 PM
I agree except for the bolded part. I'd put the Bolts in the powerhouse category with the Penguins not far behind (back-to-back championships runs go a long way for experience) and the Capitals behind them (for obvious reasons related to consistent choking to the Penguins). The Bruins looks pretty mortal outside of their top line and didn't look all that hot down the stretch in the first round. They'll have their hands full against a deep, skilled, and fast Lightning team and could be in for some trouble if they look anything similar to the opening round vs. a pretty unbalanced Leafs team. Presently, I'd say they're the weakest team in the East.
As for the West, if the Jets can move on to the WCF, anything is possible. But I don't think it'd be prudent to label them Stanley Cup favourites if they have to face the Knights, who absolutely put the boots to the Sharks last night. The only plus for the Jets in a WPG-VGK series is the Jets would have home ice advantage.
Agreed Tampa scares me more than anyone else in the east
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 27, 2018, 04:41:21 PM
Laine is practicing this morning. Chiarot and Enstrom are both in, so looks like Morrow is out tonight. Perreault is practicing with a non-contact jersey.
Gross, Enstrom's the worst...
Quote from: bluengold204 on April 27, 2018, 06:14:30 PM
Gross, Enstrom's the worst...
If I was the Jets head coach, I would have left the defence as is. But unfortunately I took the wrong career path at an early age, and I'm not the Jets head coach.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 27, 2018, 05:59:21 PM
Laine says he's good to go: https://www.tsn.ca/laine-says-he-s-good-to-go-tonight-1.1070013 (https://www.tsn.ca/laine-says-he-s-good-to-go-tonight-1.1070013)
Sounds like the only forward out tonight is Armia.
And Perreault
Big away win for the Jets. Home ice advantage against the #1 team in the league is not a bad option.
Quote from: ModAdmin on April 28, 2018, 02:44:43 AM
Big away win for the Jets. Home ice advantage against the #1 team in the league is not a bad option.
So calm
First game is a big win in the series. Now win game two . Refs got to call interference in the goal area not just on the jets . Refs got to call it both ways .
Interesting observations... from a not sports writer.
Bartley Kives @bkives
The Jets were outpossessed badly last night. Also got lucky. If they don?t improve, I won?t be shocked if Nashville wins this series 4-1. Can?t expect Hellebuyck to do that every night.
Of course, there are adjustments to be made. Can?t see Nashville controlling the puck more effectively than they did on Friday. Ergo, there?s more room for the Jets to improve.
At the risk of stating the extremely obvious, you can?t score many goals from your own end. You also can?t score any goals when you don?t touch the puck.
I will shut up now. I just don?t see any reason to believe the Jets will win a second game in this series without at least some improvement in controlling the game.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 28, 2018, 03:30:13 PM
Interesting observations... from a not sports writer.
Bartley Kives @bkives
The Jets were outpossessed badly last night. Also got lucky. If they don?t improve, I won?t be shocked if Nashville wins this series 4-1. Can?t expect Hellebuyck to do that every night.
Of course, there are adjustments to be made. Can?t see Nashville controlling the puck more effectively than they did on Friday. Ergo, there?s more room for the Jets to improve.
At the risk of stating the extremely obvious, you can?t score many goals from your own end. You also can?t score any goals when you don?t touch the puck.
I will shut up now. I just don?t see any reason to believe the Jets will win a second game in this series without at least some improvement in controlling the game.
Bartley is a political reporter so I wouldn't put too much stock in his analysis. The majority of the Preds shots last night were very low risk where Helle saw them clearly. The Jets won playing their C game, while shaking off rust from being off for a week. I expect them to be much better on Sunday and even more so at home.
The officiating in the NHL playoffs really makes it hard to enjoy the games these days.
Correct me if I'm wrong, were the Preds not the most penalized team during the regular season ......... in game #1 they did not take a SINGLE penalty
Though the Jets played quite disciplined they definitely were not successful in creating havoc. Havoc can cause the Preds to take the penalties necessary for a win.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 28, 2018, 08:03:42 PM
The officiating in the NHL playoffs really makes it hard to enjoy the games these days.
Another baseless negative post, what a surprise . Wah, wah, wah. Does the sun ever shine in your world or is it always cold and miserable??
Quote from: Jockitch on April 29, 2018, 01:51:37 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, were the Preds not the most penalized team during the regular season ......... in game #1 they did not take a SINGLE penalty
Though the Jets played quite disciplined they definitely were not successful in creating havoc. Havoc can cause the Preds to take the penalties necessary for a win.
The Predators weren't angels but to be fair, they also possessed the puck for the majority of the game.
Quote from: dd on April 29, 2018, 01:57:33 AM
Another baseless negative post, what a surprise . Wah, wah, wah. Does the sun ever shine in your world or is it always cold and miserable??
The sun shines great here lol. I actually have more respect for CFL officiating than I do NHL officiating......An it's JMO dd.....kinda like everyone else posts around these places.
Already super excited for tonight!!!
Should be another exciting game. Hopefully, the possession battle is more even tonight. The Jets gotta be better.
Looks like no Armia for game 2.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 29, 2018, 05:59:38 PM
Should be another exciting game. Hopefully, the possession battle is more even tonight. The Jets gotta be better.
Looks like no Armia for game 2.
I agree .... possession needs to be better. That said i was super impressed how calm the Jets stayed.
The preds are going to come out focused and determined....and probably even a have a chip on their collective shoulders. ....Nashville will pull out a dominate win.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 29, 2018, 06:26:51 PM
The preds are going to come out focused and determined....and probably even a have a chip on their collective shoulders. ....Nashville will pull out a dominate win.
So will the Jets. Nash may also come out in a bit of a panic not wanting to go down 2-0.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 29, 2018, 06:37:24 PM
So will the Jets. Nash may also come out in a bit of a panic not wanting to go down 2-0.
The Predators brought their A game on Friday night and still lost. Now there's added pressure on them to even up the series before they have to play on the road.
The Jets played their B or even C game on Friday. They'll be better tonight, so the notion of the Predators winning in dominant is misguided and ignorant.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 29, 2018, 06:40:42 PM
The Predators brought their A game on Friday night and still lost. Now there's added pressure on them to even up the series before they have to play on the road.
The Jets played their B or even C game on Friday. They'll be better tonight, so the notion of the Predators winning in dominant is misguided and ignorant.
I agree. It was as they say rope a dope. Let them shoot from the line. We are deeper up front and as long as Helly can see we should be fine.
And as you said the Preds figure that was their best game of the playoffs and lost. And i agree that was not our A game at all. Somewhere between a C and B.
The Preds outshot us by 30 and were a goal post away from winning that game. We need to be much better tonight as for sure they will be throwing everything at us tonight to even the series. Cant wait!!
And once again a brutal call by an official affects the game.
Don Cherry....he is more worried about what the young guys are wearing and reminding people of 1970 ( that's 48 years ago)...the old man is a joke.
lol omg PK is dirty
The entire Nashville team cross checks, with or without the puck, all the time. The call on Hendricks was bogus and cost us a goal. The penalty has to impact the play and the D man was not going to make the play, but Hendricks gets called and no goal. Meanwhile, Subban gives Laine a full body cross check, in front of #83 ref and no call. Bs
Quote from: dd on April 30, 2018, 01:00:34 AM
The entire Nashville team cross checks, with or without the puck, all the time. The call on Hendricks was bogus and cost us a goal. The penalty has to impact the play and the D man was not going to make the play, but Hendricks gets called and no goal. Meanwhile, Subban gives Laine a full body cross check, in front of #83 ref and no call. Bs
Yep. Looks like that?s what we?re up against this series.
3 - 3 in the 3rd. Get it done boys!
Quote from: dd on April 30, 2018, 01:00:34 AM
The entire Nashville team cross checks, with or without the puck, all the time. The call on Hendricks was bogus and cost us a goal. The penalty has to impact the play and the D man was not going to make the play, but Hendricks gets called and no goal. Meanwhile, Subban gives Laine a full body cross check, in front of #83 ref and no call. Bs
Lol.....like the bogus call in the first period that helped the jets get on the board .....there are so many non-calls in the NHL and then all of a sudden a call it just makes the game look silly. Gonna be a fun finish though...
Quote from: dd on April 30, 2018, 01:00:34 AM
The entire Nashville team cross checks, with or without the puck, all the time. The call on Hendricks was bogus and cost us a goal. The penalty has to impact the play and the D man was not going to make the play, but Hendricks gets called and no goal. Meanwhile, Subban gives Laine a full body cross check, in front of #83 ref and no call. Bs
Doesn't every penalty affect the play of a game .....and Laine stuck PK after the crosscheck, why no penalty for retaliating ..
Double OT. Preds has more chances in the first OT. I think 2nd OT ends in under 3 mins.
I want joe morrow back in
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 30, 2018, 01:52:17 AM
Lol.....like the bogus call in the first period that helped the jets get on the board .....there are so many non-calls in the NHL and then all of a sudden a call it just makes the game look silly. Gonna be a fun finish though...
What pro team coms from your city?
You said ppl that have no teams should have no say..
What pro teams do u have?
Quote from: The Zipp on April 30, 2018, 02:53:40 AM
I want joe morrow back in
I want Perreault or Armia or even Dano in and Hendricks out. He?s too slow for this series.
The Jets were so close to coming home up 2-0... Gotta remind myself though that I predicted this series would go to 7 games. Best of 5 now with 3 of those in our house!
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 30, 2018, 03:48:50 AM
I want Perreault or Armia or even Dano in and Hendricks out. He?s too slow for this series.
The Jets were so close to coming home up 2-0... Gotta remind myself though that I predicted this series would go to 7 games. Best of 5 now with 3 of those in our house!
Yup
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 30, 2018, 03:42:12 AM
What pro team coms from your city?
You said ppl that have no teams should have no say..
What pro teams do u have?
What does where I live matter ?...
I said people that don't have teams in certain sports shouldn't be laughing at those who do
Again....what does it matter what pro teams I have ?.......
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 30, 2018, 03:54:54 AM
What does where I live matter ?...
I said people that don't have teams in certain sports shouldn't be laughing at those who do
Again....what does it matter what pro teams I have ?.......
Maybe think about practicing what you preach, eh?
Quote from: Colton on April 30, 2018, 03:56:03 AM
Maybe think about practicing what you preach, eh?
Lol
This guy is not so bright.
Looking at the playoff stats, Enstron is -3 after his two games. Is it possible he is rusty and we should play Morrow instead ?
Also, Kyle Connor has three assists, but is -2. However, his line mates are doing pretty well: Scheifele has 8 goals, 10 points and is +4 and Wheeler has 1 goal, 7 points and is +1.
Quote from: PloenFan on April 30, 2018, 05:20:00 AM
Looking at the playoff stats, Enstron is -3 after his two games. Is it possible he is rusty and we should play Morrow instead ?
Enstrom got clowned on NSH?s 4th goal and made a bad pinch that lead to a 2 on 1 for the game winning goal. Other guys made mistakes too, but I think he hurts us more than he helps.
Enstrom and Hendricks lost it for us. Get Perreault and Morrow back in ASAP.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 25, 2018, 04:20:58 PM
Wow... now we have to worry about this...
Luc Lewandoski @LucLewandoski
Watching the March 25th Jets-Predator replay on Sportsnet. For the love of the Golden Boy, please don?t boo PK Subban only Winnipeg. It?s a very bad look.
Between Subban and a possible Kane return in Round Three, fans don?t want to ruin the positive vibes and become the story.
Really? Fans dressed in white booing a player that happens to not be white? Not because of the colour of his skin, but because he is a detestable player?
I could understand if hoods, khaki pants and crosses were involved. But seriously, the white out is far from having anything of a racial motivation. Even suggesting that the "optics" for fans hating on an opposing player who happens to be black is crazy.
But you know now, some media types will start on about the article on Winnipeg being "Canada's Most Racist City", and we will be dragged back down that avenue again.
Its hockey. Subban and Kane are easy to hate. Just like Marchand, Kessler, Lucic... not because of the colour of their skin, because they are aholes on and off the ice... giving them a pass on that because of the colour of their skin is a disservice to racial equality. All men should be created equal, to love or hate without regard to race, creed or religion.
So.... wondering what Luc Lewandowski thinks about Byfuglien only getting booed by Preds fans? Perhaps something to do with him getting under the skin of the players and fans? Kind of like what Subban does? Hmmmm.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 30, 2018, 11:33:16 AM
So.... wondering what Luc Lewandowski thinks about Byfuglien only getting booed by Preds fans? Perhaps something to do with him getting under the skin of the players and fans? Kind of like what Subban does? Hmmmm.
Buff and Subban are 2 difference makers on D, for sure. But Buff doesn't play dirty like PK. He play big and tough. And after the whistle, he can ragdoll two players in a scrum. Or knock a guy out of the game by receiving a check. Does he cross the line? Sometimes, but it is more than the exception than the rule.
Subban figure four leg locks 55 to kep him from re-entering the play. He crosschecks a top player who is down and defenseless.. or goes high with the elbow far, far, far too often. Just dirty. And he does it all the time.
One of these players is worthy of derision due to being a dirty butthole. And it ain't Buff.
Regardless what you are wearing, feel free to boo PK.
Quote from: Colton on April 30, 2018, 03:56:03 AM
Maybe think about practicing what you preach, eh?
That would require having a brain, though.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 30, 2018, 11:20:13 AM
Enstrom and Hendricks lost it for us. Get Perreault and Morrow back in ASAP.
I'd rather have Armia and Morrow back in the lineup. Enstrom was a disaster last night.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 30, 2018, 11:33:16 AM
So.... wondering what Luc Lewandowski thinks about Byfuglien only getting booed by Preds fans? Perhaps something to do with him getting under the skin of the players and fans? Kind of like what Subban does? Hmmmm.
Luc is an idiot.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 30, 2018, 01:12:24 PM
I'd rather have Armia and Morrow back in the lineup. Enstrom was a disaster last night.
Agreed...Armia or Perreault. I heard Armia is back skating in Winnipeg so hope he is ready to go soon. Hendricks should not be on the roster.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 30, 2018, 01:07:17 PM
Buff and Subban are 2 difference makers on D, for sure. But Buff doesn't play dirty like PK. He play big and tough. And after the whistle, he can ragdoll two players in a scrum. Or knock a guy out of the game by receiving a check. Does he cross the line? Sometimes, but it is more than the exception than the rule.
Subban figure four leg locks 55 to kep him from re-entering the play. He crosschecks a top player who is down and defenseless.. or goes high with the elbow far, far, far too often. Just dirty. And he does it all the time.
One of these players is worthy of derision due to being a dirty butthole. And it ain't Buff.
Regardless what you are wearing, feel free to boo PK.
Buff is absolutely an agitator. True, not dirty like Subban, but he does take liberties here and there. If he wasn't a Jet, there's no doubt he would be booed by our fans.
Need Hendricks playing. Need his toughness and he goes to the net . Enstrom didn?t get back but has been playing ok so far.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 30, 2018, 01:13:55 PM
Agreed...Armia or Perreault. I heard Armia is back skating in Winnipeg so hope he is ready to go soon. Hendricks should not be on the roster.
I wouldn't go that far. He was solid enough in Friday's win. He just took two really moronic penalties last night, one which was really costly.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 30, 2018, 01:26:53 PM
Buff is absolutely an agitator. True, not dirty like Subban, but he does take liberties here and there. If he wasn't a Jet, there's no doubt he would be booed by our fans.
Couldn't agree more. Byfuglien has done some dirty things in the past but Subban's been much dirtier recently.
Quote from: buckzumhoff on April 30, 2018, 01:31:59 PM
Need Hendricks playing. Need his toughness and he goes to the net . Enstrom didn?t get back but has been playing ok so far.
Once Armia or Perreault is good to go, Hendricks is out.
God **** it, I knew Enstrom would **** it up.
Jesus ****** did anyone catch the titans o-line use a dirty old dead catfish as a beer luge at the game last night?
https://twitter.com/spittinchiclets/status/990731009149800448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbssports.com%2Fnhl%2Fnews%2Flook-the-tennessee-titans-offensive-line-used-a-catfish-as-a-beer-luge-at-predators-game%2F&tfw_creator=PeteBlackburn&tfw_site=cbssports
Quote from: bluengold204 on April 30, 2018, 01:55:56 PM
Jesus ****** did anyone catch the titans o-line use a dirty old dead catfish as a beer luge at the game last night?
https://twitter.com/spittinchiclets/status/990731009149800448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbssports.com%2Fnhl%2Fnews%2Flook-the-tennessee-titans-offensive-line-used-a-catfish-as-a-beer-luge-at-predators-game%2F&tfw_creator=PeteBlackburn&tfw_site=cbssports
Yeah, that was pretty nasty. Drinking Bud Light off a slimy catfish... Blegh. :-\
In a perfect world, Hellebuyck pitches three shutouts and wins us the series like he did against Minnesota ! :D
Quote from: bluengold204 on April 30, 2018, 01:55:56 PM
Jesus ****** did anyone catch the titans o-line use a dirty old dead catfish as a beer luge at the game last night?
https://twitter.com/spittinchiclets/status/990731009149800448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbssports.com%2Fnhl%2Fnews%2Flook-the-tennessee-titans-offensive-line-used-a-catfish-as-a-beer-luge-at-predators-game%2F&tfw_creator=PeteBlackburn&tfw_site=cbssports
Leave it up to a group of olinemen to find a way to make American Bud Light more drinkable ;)
And yes, I said pouring it over a dead catfish makes it MORE drinkable...
Certainly a bit of dumping on Hendricks & Enstrom & I agree if we have the afore mentioned players ready get them in.
However ....... am not happy with Buff's decision on the final 2 on 1. Text book was to create his lane & stay between the Preds.
He committed badly & voila ..... the shooter had plenty of time to control & then fire the puck in.
The game itself was truly awesome to watch & more, with a better result, will be welcomed.
Hendricks took the stupidest penalty I have ever saw---cross checking at defenseman from behind on a breakaway play that had no bearing on the play. And it cost us a goal. That gets you pulled out of the lineup pretty quick.
Enstrom got schooled by Pred forwards time and time again. He looks out of sync out there.
Comrie starred, stopping 34 0f 35 shots, as the Moose scored 3 in the 3rd & advanced in their playoffs by winning 5-1.
Lemieux picked up a goal & 2 assists & Buddy Robinson was good with 2 assists. J.C. Lipon had no points but lead with 7 shots.
Appleton is still hurt.
It is always better to win the most faceoffs. It usually means you are giving your team the first chance to decide what happens next.
In the first 2 games the Preds have won a staggering 38 more faceoffs ........ Jets have to solve this problem.
Quote from: Jockitch on May 01, 2018, 04:06:21 AM
It is always better to win the most faceoffs. It usually means you are giving your team the first chance to decide what happens next.
In the first 2 games the Preds have won a staggering 38 more faceoffs ........ Jets have to solve this problem.
Wasn't that one reason Hendricks was in last game? Yet Liane took more faceoffs, and had the best % of all players (50)
Any word on MattyP?
Quote from: blue_or_die on May 01, 2018, 08:49:10 PM
Any word on MattyP?
Still skating in non-contact I think.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 01, 2018, 08:59:29 PM
Still skating in non-contact I think.
Aw really? I thought that was Kulikov, and Perreault was in contact? I could be totally wrong..
Hendricks was not as good, below 50%, as past ........ he did not take a faceoff in the past 2 games vs Nashville.
Helly is off tonight. Taking penalties...can?t win a faceoff and that giant goal light has cursed us... we won?t score tonight...
Pat laine is ice cold...
I said last game Hellebuyck was off on the last two goals that got by him...and the jets are lucky they haven't received twice the calls against them all ready this game. The "white noise" is kinda lame and pretty quiet as well...
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 02, 2018, 12:41:48 AM
I said last game Hellebuyck was off on the last two goals that got by him...and the jets are lucky they haven't received twice the calls against them all ready this game. The "white noise" is kinda lame and pretty quiet as well...
It?s quiet cause they are down 3-0
Pretty nice comeback in the 2nd period ! Big Buf is having a good game. :)
Quote from: PloenFan on May 02, 2018, 02:00:40 AM
Pretty nice comeback in the 2nd period ! Big Buf is having a good game. :)
Same with Tuba ;D
Hellebuyck seems sharper too.....
Jet fans should be on their feet chanting and cheering during this power play.. .
What a game! I went through pretty much every emotion throughout it. Man, this team is something else! I loved the comment from Wheeler after the game about how our fans make their own noise. Don?t need any celebrities here to pump up the fans!
8)
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on May 02, 2018, 03:33:42 AM
What a game! I went through pretty much every emotion throughout it. Man, this team is something else! I loved the comment from Wheeler after the game about how our fans make their own noise. Don?t need any celebrities here to pump up the fans!
;) ;D
We all know the Jets are capable of overcoming their opponent's leads but ........ Truly sooooooo unexpected to witness this incredible VICTORY.
Jets won the faceoff war which was crucial.
Just 10 more wins & our young heroes will be hoisting the Stanley.
That was an absolute thing of beauty. Well, the first period wasn't but the delta on my emotions was as high as it could be given we were at the lowest point. Down 3-0, win 7-4.
Bring on Thursday.
Quote from: blue_or_die on May 02, 2018, 01:26:08 PM
That was an absolute thing of beauty. Well, the first period wasn't but the delta on my emotions was as high as it could be given we were at the lowest point. Down 3-0, win 7-4.
Bring on Thursday.
Horrifying opening period... But my goodness did they pull it together for the remaining 40, outscoring the Predators 7-1 through the final two periods. Absolutely incredible.
Maybe the craziest game of the postseason so far.
This is a whole new situation. This is not the team that lost 4 straight to the Ducks. These young men have come together as a team, and have rallied back from adversity that would have been unheard of in the past.
I'm excited at how far they are going, and how long they'll be this good...
I truly enjoyed watching the game last night. Predators looked broken when they were headed back into the dressing room, and Rinne was really off his game (seriously, did you think you were going to get away with full rotation roundhouse slash in front of the ref?).
Per Ken Wiebe, LW Mathieu Perreault has been medically cleared and could be an option to suit up tomorrow in game 4.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 02, 2018, 07:45:10 PM
Per Ken Wiebe, LW Mathieu Perreault has been medically cleared and could be an option to suit up tomorrow in game 4.
Great news.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 02, 2018, 07:45:10 PM
Per Ken Wiebe, LW Mathieu Perreault has been medically cleared and could be an option to suit up tomorrow in game 4.
Wonder who comes out...
Quote from: Stretch on May 02, 2018, 08:13:31 PM
Wonder who comes out...
Hendricks...
Or are you being facetious?
Quote from: blue_or_die on May 02, 2018, 08:14:21 PM
Hendricks...
Or are you being facetious?
Not at all. I presumed that was the case but asked because Perreault is listed as a LW and Hendricks is a C.
Quote from: Stretch on May 02, 2018, 08:25:02 PM
Not at all. I presumed that was the case but asked because Perreault is listed as a LW and Hendricks is a C.
Gotcha. Pretty sure both can be plugged in at wing or C though.
Maurice says MP is a few days away still.
Kulikov and Armia were both in reg practice jerseys today to but both are a week away.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 02, 2018, 08:40:14 PM
Maurice says MP is a few days away still.
Kulikov and Armia were both in reg practice jerseys today to but both are a week away.
i can't believe Kulikov is a consideration. I assumed there'd be no way we see him before next season.
Quote from: blue_or_die on May 02, 2018, 09:01:27 PM
i can't believe Kulikov is a consideration. I assumed there'd be no way we see him before next season.
I think he opted to not have surgery, that could be why he is a potential for the playoffs
Quote from: The Zipp on May 02, 2018, 09:03:49 PM
I think he opted to not have surgery, that could be why he is a potential for the playoffs
Apparently, he went a different route and it's a good sign he's skating and could play sooner than later. That said, I highly doubt we see him suit up in the second round.
Game day, gents! As if puck drop is at 8:30, though. :-\
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 03, 2018, 01:12:21 PM
Apparently, he went a different route and it's a good sign he's skating and could play sooner than later. That said, I highly doubt we see him suit up in the second round.
Game day, gents! As if puck drop is at 8:30, though. :-\
I have a dog school until 7:30 tonight, so that actually works for me lol. I will be grumpy Friday morning, though, especially if we go to OT :o
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 03, 2018, 01:12:21 PM
Apparently, he went a different route and it's a good sign he's skating and could play sooner than later. That said, I highly doubt we see him suit up in the second round.
Game day, gents! As if puck drop is at 8:30, though. :-\
Past your bedtime?
Quote from: bluengold204 on May 03, 2018, 01:19:21 PM
Past your bedtime?
It's past my bedtime, but I'll still be staying up for the game! Plus I booked tomorrow off work!
Quote from: bluengold204 on May 03, 2018, 01:19:21 PM
Past your bedtime?
Nah. I just prefer 7:00-7:30, especially if there's OT. Working on minimal sleep on a Friday is no fun.
Quote from: blue_or_die on May 03, 2018, 01:18:57 PM
I have a dog school until 7:30 tonight, so that actually works for me lol. I will be grumpy Friday morning, though, especially if we go to OT :o
That can be eliminated with a Jets win, no? ;)
Steve Morley says he's expecting 45k fans downtown tonight at the whiteout street party!
Quote from: gbill2004 on May 03, 2018, 01:51:48 PM
Steve Morley says he's expecting 45k fans downtown tonight at the whiteout street party!
And I'm expecting 100k!!!
Quote from: gbill2004 on May 03, 2018, 01:51:48 PM
Steve Morley says he's expecting 45k fans downtown tonight at the whiteout street party!
45K holy ****... does that include those inside the arena?
Quote from: gbill2004 on May 03, 2018, 01:51:48 PM
Steve Morley says he's expecting 45k fans downtown tonight at the whiteout street party!
Really?? How does Steve figure this? just a guess?
Wont be going tonight but if it comes down to winning the series in game 6 I think we may head down if the weather is nice.
Quote from: The Zipp on May 03, 2018, 02:31:09 PM
Really?? How does Steve figure this? just a guess?
Wont be going tonight but if it comes down to winning the series in game 6 I think we may head down if the weather is nice.
No idea...he didn't say in is tweet.
Quote from: gbill2004 on May 03, 2018, 01:51:48 PM
Steve Morley says he's expecting 45k fans downtown tonight at the whiteout street party!
Waiting for NorthernSkunk to comment on the "lameness" of this suggestion.... ;)
Quote from: bluengold204 on May 03, 2018, 02:12:27 PM
45K holy ****... does that include those inside the arena?
He said he's going to be rollerblading to the whiteout tonight and that he's expecting 45k people there. He wasn't specific whether that also included the 15k in the arena.
Quote from: The Zipp on May 03, 2018, 02:31:09 PM
Really?? How does Steve figure this? just a guess?
Wont be going tonight but if it comes down to winning the series in game 6 I think we may head down if the weather is nice.
I don't think Steve Morley is any more qualified to give predictions than anybody else.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 03, 2018, 02:50:05 PM
I don't think Steve Morley is any more qualified to give predictions than anybody else.
This seems about right ;D
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 03, 2018, 02:50:05 PM
I don't think Steve Morley is any more qualified to give predictions than anybody else.
I think he's pretty tight with Mayor Bowman.
Quote from: gbill2004 on May 03, 2018, 03:06:23 PM
I think he's pretty tight with Mayor Bowman.
If you say so.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 03, 2018, 03:09:36 PM
And?
This. What does being "pretty tight" with the mayor have to do with anything? ???
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 03, 2018, 02:50:05 PM
I don't think Steve Morley is any more qualified to give predictions than anybody else.
Nope. Actually less so, because he'll just throw out fan boy nonsense that you can be sure is exaggerated. I had to stop following him because it was just annoying.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 03, 2018, 03:40:45 PM
This. What does being "pretty tight" with the mayor have to do with anything? ???
I?d think Mayor Bowman would have access to the number of people expected tonight. But I?m just guessing. You?d have to ask Steve yourself.
Quote from: Jesse on May 03, 2018, 03:43:31 PM
Nope. Actually less so, because he'll just throw out fan boy nonsense that you can be sure is exaggerated. I had to stop following him because it was just annoying.
He?s definitely overly positive at times. That?s for sure.
Looks like Perreault will return tonight, and Armia and Kulikov are getting close!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 03, 2018, 03:40:45 PM
This. What does being "pretty tight" with the mayor have to do with anything? ???
Im not sure. Im confused now Lol
Quote from: gbill2004 on May 03, 2018, 04:26:07 PM
Looks like Perreault will return tonight, and Armia and Kulikov are getting close!
Scratch that. Armia confirms he's playing tonight, and looks like Perreault retuns next game!
Quote from: Stretch on May 03, 2018, 02:35:41 PM
Waiting for NorthernSkunk to comment on the "lameness" of this suggestion.... ;)
It does seem a little out there since the news channels were only reporting 15 or 17,000 at the last party.
Quote from: gbill2004 on May 03, 2018, 04:47:12 PM
Scratch that. Armia confirms he's playing tonight, and looks like Perreault retuns next game!
Any idea who sits, Hendricks or Roslovic?
Does anybody want my prediction for the final score tonight.....someone earlier thought it helps the Jets win when I do that so I thought I would offer....
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 03, 2018, 05:00:30 PM
Any idea who sits, Hendricks or Roslovic?
My money is on Roslovic.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 03, 2018, 05:08:08 PM
My money is on Roslovic.
I'm hoping it's Hendricks, but you may be right. Grandpa should really be in the press box.
Looks like Hartnell is in for Fiala tonight, for the Preds.
Quote from: gbill2004 on May 03, 2018, 06:00:17 PM
Looks like Hartnell is in for Fiala tonight, for the Preds.
Weird personnel decision, IMO. Hartnell is basically a plug at this point in his career. Hopefully, this move blows up in Laviolette's face tonight.
Quote from: gbill2004 on May 03, 2018, 06:00:17 PM
Looks like Hartnell is in for Fiala tonight, for the Preds.
Didn't even know that guy still hocked
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 03, 2018, 06:23:19 PM
Weird personnel decision, IMO. Hartnell is basically a plug at this point in his career. Hopefully, this move blows up in Laviolette's face tonight.
Maybe they are thinking hes tougher to go against Buff?
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 03, 2018, 06:30:34 PM
Maybe they are thinking hes tougher to go against Buff?
Maybe. Ken Wiebe speculates Fiala could be banged up, so I have no idea.
And he also made it sound like Weber will take Emelin's spot on defense tonight.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 03, 2018, 06:30:34 PM
Maybe they are thinking hes tougher to go against Buff?
Maybe Laviolette read this? https://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/2010/06/03/byfuglien_struggles_hartnell_dominates_in_stanley_cup_final.html
Quote from: gbill2004 on May 03, 2018, 06:40:24 PM
Maybe Laviolette read this? https://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/2010/06/03/byfuglien_struggles_hartnell_dominates_in_stanley_cup_final.html
He wouldn't have to, as he was the head coach of the Flyers in 2010. That being said, I doubt what happened nearly a decade ago holds any water today, especially when you consider Byfuglien played forward back then for the Blackhawks.
In any case, I'm with Wiebe on this one. Fiala's gotta be banged up.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 03, 2018, 06:49:19 PM
He wouldn't have to, as he was the head coach of the Flyers in 2010. That being said, I doubt what happened nearly a decade ago holds any water today, especially when you consider Byfuglien played forward back then for the Blackhawks.
In any case, I'm with Wiebe on this one. Fiala's gotta be banged up.
It was a joke.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on May 03, 2018, 01:39:52 PM
That can be eliminated with a Jets win, no? ;)
YES!!
My concern is Hartnell is in the lineup tonight to play dirty and possibly injur some Jets.
Stress eating already...had McDonalds, currently at Tutti Frutti, been to sobeys for snacks and cookie supplies...
Quote from: The Zipp on May 03, 2018, 11:06:01 PM
Stress eating already...had McDonalds, currently at Tutti Frutti, been to sobeys for snacks and cookie supplies...
Haha! Burger King for me along with ice cream popsicles and chips. Belly won?t feel good but it somehow helps with the highs and lows of the game. Now if the Jets get off to a multiple goal start, that?s a different story.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on May 03, 2018, 11:11:16 PM
Haha! Burger King for me along with ice cream popsicles and chips. Belly won?t feel good but it somehow helps with the highs and lows of the game. Now if the Jets get off to a multiple goal start, that?s a different story.
Big lead means nothing in this series.
Quote from: gbill2004 on May 03, 2018, 11:14:09 PM
Big lead means nothing in this series.
True, but for a period of time the stress will be lower. At least I would hope so.
This is such a huge game. Lose and it?s and a best of three with 2 on the road. Win and we are one more away from moving on...Nashville is going to be fired up.
Rinne has looked shaky to me but we know that he can really good too. Just want to beat these guys so bad
Quote from: gbill2004 on May 03, 2018, 10:58:52 PM
My concern is Hartnell is in the lineup tonight to play dirty and possibly injur some Jets.
Buff swinging people around by the helmets wasn't an attempt to injure ? Lol
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 03, 2018, 11:41:40 PM
Buff swinging people around by the helmets wasn't an attempt to injure ? Lol
Buff plays within the rules.
Quote from: The Zipp on May 03, 2018, 11:39:02 PM
This is such a huge game. Lose and it?s and a best of three with 2 on the road. Win and we are one more away from moving on...Nashville is going to be fired up.
Rinne has looked shaky to me but we know that he can really good too. Just want to beat these guys so bad
Helly looked shaky in the first period last game as well but picked it up later in the game.....just like Rinne did the game before that......gonna be fun watching how they both perform in the first period..
Quote from: gbill2004 on May 03, 2018, 11:42:43 PM
Buff plays within the rules.
Not all the time......and where does it say you can grab a players helmet and swing him around ?
Nashville Predators forward Kevin Fiala will be a healthy scratch tonight in favour of Scott Hartnell. #StandWithUs
Buff Has done some stupid things and so has Hartnell and a bunch of other players...I can see where non-jets fans would be annoyed at Buff. Not Marchand level of dirty but he has an edge for sure.
Quote from: The Zipp on May 03, 2018, 11:53:58 PM
Buff Has done some stupid things and so has Hartnell and a bunch of other players...I can see where non-jets fans would be annoyed at Buff. Not Marchand level of dirty but he has an edge for sure.
Buff plays a heavy, physical game. But I wouldn?t say he?s dirty or tries to intentionally injur other players.
Quote from: gbill2004 on May 03, 2018, 11:59:19 PM
Buff plays a heavy, physical game. But I wouldn?t say he?s dirty or tries to intentionally injur other players.
The dude whose head he cross checked into the ice might disagree. Nobody can judge intention but Buff has made some really dumb plays - thankfully he hasn?t done it often enough to likely be labelled as ?dirty? but he sure has had moments
Quote from: The Zipp on May 04, 2018, 12:10:22 AM
The dude whose head he cross checked into the ice might disagree. Nobody can judge intention but Buff has made some really dumb plays - thankfully he hasn?t done it often enough to likely be labelled as ?dirty? but he sure has had moments
Ya I definitely don?t think Buff has a reputation of being a dirty player. I?m expecting some dirty from Hartnell tonight.
would you consider all the slashing that is done in hockey these days as "dirty"...?
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 04, 2018, 12:47:54 AM
would you consider all the slashing that is done in hockey these days as "dirty"...?
There are different degrees and all can be penalties. Every penalty for slashing isn't dirty. A two handed chop that does nothing but look like someone is chopping wood is a dirty play. Doesn't mean that makes the player a dirty player either. Do it a bunch of times and that descriptor might have merit.
Emotions can run wild and cause a player to do dumb things. Rinne's slash last game was bad - he got a penalty...but I don't classify him as a dirty player..
No surprises from #NHLJets pre-game warm-up. Matt Hendricks is on the ice, so is Joel Armia, Jack Rolsovic and Mathieu Perreault are not. Armia is in for Roslovic, it would appear. But that was how it looked this morning as well.
Quote from: The Zipp on May 04, 2018, 12:54:25 AM
There are different degrees and all can be penalties. Every penalty for slashing isn't dirty. A two handed chop that does nothing but look like someone is chopping wood is a dirty play. Doesn't mean that makes the player a dirty player either. Do it a bunch of times and that descriptor might have merit.
Emotions can run wild and cause a player to do dumb things. Rinne's slash last game was bad - he got a penalty...but I don't classify him as a dirty player..
That's what I was thinking....so many different scenarios and levels of "dirty".... I would use the term dirty more when a player is intentionally out to injure
Buff sits on Hartnel lol......
I think the jets had more chances but preds up 1......
Cherry..." Laines' stupid beard"......wow
Preda have the jets locked down. And now the preds go on the power play.
Buff for slashing....too funny lol.......preds score while I type
This might be the best the preds have played defensively all series
Armia isn?t into the game. Refs sure looking out for nashville.
I don't think that chant when Subban gets the puck is bothering him much.
Quote from: buckzumhoff on May 04, 2018, 03:17:25 AM
Armia isn?t into the game. Refs sure looking out for nashville.
How ?..By letting a jet player skate right into the crease and push the goalie ?......why wasn't that called ?
Are you joking
We press a bit but the puck isn't settling for us. Connor, Laine, Ehlers are sooooooooo overdue.
Let's fly high in the 3rd Jets.
Quote from: buckzumhoff on May 04, 2018, 03:23:43 AM
Are you joking
Lol.....kinda.......but I have seen less called.
Quote from: Jockitch on May 04, 2018, 03:30:29 AM
We press a bit but the puck isn't settling for us. Connor, Laine, Ehlers are sooooooooo overdue.
Let's fly high in the 3rd Jets.
It's like their timing is off just a notch....
Outcoached and outplayed so far. Jets speed has been neutralized. Need just one goal here to get back into it.
It?s looking more and more like it will be a grouchy day tomorrow. What a dud of a game. Jets just have no answer to the Preds locking it down. Turning point of the game in my opinion was Rinne?s save when he flailed his stick and the knob saved the goal from Morrissey. A goal there would have got things rolling. Home advantage shifts back to Nashville....
Tough spot to be in now...best of 3 with 2 on the road. Preds figured out the Jets and delivered a road win.
Needed a much better effort tonight.
Agree that the knob save was a stunner.
Huge way that the Preds won was in the pathetic, absolutely shocking fact that ........ Jets only had 2 Take Aways vs 18 Give Aways
Hendricks in the lineup lessens the use of Armia & Copp & their ice time. Hendricks under 7 minutes & Army & Copper under 8 minutes.
Well that wasent any good at all. Lol
Give Preds credit for a good game.
Hendricks out and MP in should help.
Id like to see Toby sit. But i dont think that happends.
Quote from: The Zipp on May 04, 2018, 03:46:20 AM
Outcoached and outplayed so far. Jets speed has been neutralized. Need just one goal here to get back into it.
Even that wasn't enough. Jets just weren't sharp tonight when they needed to be.
Now they gotta win again in Nashville, which is a tall order.
Quote from: gbill2004 on May 04, 2018, 12:23:26 AM
Ya I definitely don?t think Buff has a reputation of being a dirty player. I?m expecting some dirty from Hartnell tonight.
He isn?t dirty, but he is nasty?BIG difference. He doesn?t spear or stick people or lick peoples faces like the puke Marchant, he just crushes people hitting them effortlessly. I ll take nasty any day?-it keeps people honest on the ice.
Quote from: dd on May 04, 2018, 05:24:26 AM
He isn?t dirty, but he is nasty?BIG difference. He doesn?t spear or stick people or lick peoples faces like the puke Marchant, he just crushes people hitting them effortlessly. I ll take nasty any day?-it keeps people honest on the ice.
He looked so nasty sitting on Hartnell trying to look like he didn't know what was happening. Lol. So nasty.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 04, 2018, 05:47:37 AM
He looked so nasty sitting on Hartnell trying to look like he didn't know what was happening. Lol. So nasty.
Yeah, it wasn't like Byfuglien got dragged down by that ginger plug or anything...
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 04, 2018, 01:22:02 PM
What game were you watching?
Probably thinking of Hartman
Credit to the Preds who were able to stay calm, turn the few bounces/opportunities in this game into a couple goals, and then turn it into the most boring 30 mins of hockey I've watched all year. It was like watching a Saturday noon game against New Jersey in November. Clogged up the neutral zone and didn't give us anything.
I hate how there's 2 on the road now if we get to 7, but I'm not necessarily worries because I think the Jets would be suited to take a day and give the same game to Nashville who will be trying to fire up their arena like us, and hopefully make a lot of mistakes while doing that.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on May 04, 2018, 01:26:02 PM
Got Hartnell and Hartman mixed up. It happens.
Fair enough. While I disagree with your comment on Hartnell being a difference maker last night, the rest of your post was pretty spot on. The Jets looked dull and slow for the majority of last night's contest and failed to make any adjustments as the game went on.
If Rinne doesn't make that insane butt-end stick save, we're probably talking about a much better result today. He was fantastic last night, especially early on when the Jets had a few really nice chances. Subban had a heck of a game, too.
I think the Jets ended up squeezing sticks as the game went on, and there were far too many of them watching themselves missing opportunities on the jumbotron and rolling their eyes skyward after missing golden opportunities, and not enough of them bearing down and doubling the effort to not miss the next one...
While it is great to have such an amazing team making such an amazing run, one thing to remember... we are the underdogs in this series, we do not have home advantage. No excuses, but I've heard a couple people already complaining that this series should have been over in 4... which is such a load of crap. If we win in 6 or 7, that will be amazing, and what I am hoping for... but taking the President's Trophy team to 7 games is a huge deal too.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 04, 2018, 01:23:17 PM
Yeah, it wasn't like Byfuglien got dragged down by that ginger plug or anything...
Lol....they tussled and went to the the ice....buff looked silly sitting on him after that
And the arena is quiet during the game.....barely a go jets go chant maybe every 7-8 minutes...looks like everyone is sitting on their hands while the play goes on.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 04, 2018, 03:22:20 PM
While it is great to have such an amazing team making such an amazing run, one thing to remember... we are the underdogs in this series, we do not have home advantage. No excuses, but I've heard a couple people already complaining that this series should have been over in 4... which is such a load of crap. If we win in 6 or 7, that will be amazing, and what I am hoping for... but taking the President's Trophy team to 7 games is a huge deal too.
Sounds like you are preparing for a second round exit.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 04, 2018, 03:25:37 PM
Sounds like you are preparing for a second round exit.
Not preparing for, just not ready to throw my jersey on the ice if it happens.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 04, 2018, 03:22:20 PMNo excuses, but I've heard a couple people already complaining that this series should have been over in 4...
Who said that? Most predictions I've heard from the experts (namely TSN and Sportsnet) have this series going 7, so they still have a chance to be right.
Quote from: Stretch on May 04, 2018, 03:37:59 PM
Who said that? Most predictions I've heard from the experts (namely TSN and Sportsnet) have this series going 7, so they still have a chance to be right.
People... on the street... just people, not pundits or reporters, just folks.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 04, 2018, 03:24:10 PM
Lol....they tussled and went to the the ice....buff looked silly sitting on him after that
And the arena is quiet during the game.....barely a go jets go chant maybe every 7-8 minutes...looks like everyone is sitting on their hands while the play goes on.
Buff was pulled onto him and he sat there on him. It was hilarious and tit-for-tat what happens in a physical series.
Also, typically when one team is not able to get anything going all game, fans lose their steam. I would suggest you watch a few more hockey games. Football and soccer are also good examples of sports, if you're considering an interest in them and learning about how they work.
The jets need to win one of the next two games. I think forcing a game seven in Nashville will put them on the spot. Winnipeg I think has outscored Nashville. If we win in Nashville they comeback here down ,if Jets lose they have to win one game here. Winnipeg is not the favourite to win the series. If it goes seven Nashville will play fast and Winnipeg should just do what they went re doing. Fast backchecking taking away the 3 on 2 and 2 on 1s. Jets got to play the players more evenly like trouba. Last game was one of those games where the puck just doesn?t go in . Hits a stick or a s skate the wrong way. Go jets , just play , we?re .500 in Nashville .
Quote from: blue_or_die on May 04, 2018, 04:30:36 PM
Buff was pulled onto him and he sat there on him. It was hilarious and tit-for-tat what happens in a physical series.
Also, typically when one team is not able to get anything going all game, fans lose their steam. I would suggest you watch a few more hockey games. Football and soccer are also good examples of sports, if you're considering an interest in them and learning about how they work.
However he got there.....he looked silly when he should have been getting up and back into the play
There is a big difference when watching a game start in Nashville compared to Winnipeg...and then as the game progresses.....did the jet fans ever all get on their feet even once to cheer when the team needed a boost ?......
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 04, 2018, 09:09:49 PM
However he got there.....he looked silly when he should have been getting up and back into the play
There is a big difference when watching a game start in Nashville compared to Winnipeg...and then as the game progresses.....did the jet fans ever all get on their feet even once to cheer when the team needed a boost ?......
99% of players would have done the exact same thing as Buff. Did you see the dive Subban took the game beffore? Now thats looking silly.
You dont think fans are behind the team? Really? Just asking that stupid question proves your nothing but a troll. That question is a special kinda stupid.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 04, 2018, 09:27:25 PM
99% of players would have done the exact same thing as Buff. Did you see the dive Subban took the game beffore? Now thats looking silly.
You dont think fans are behind the team? Really? Just asking that stupid question proves your nothing but a troll. That question is a special kinda stupid.
You need to relax with the name calling.
I'm sure fans are behind the team. What I am saying is however excited they may be...it is not coming across while watching the game on t.v.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 04, 2018, 09:46:45 PM
You need to relax with the name calling.
I'm sure fans are behind the team. What I am saying is however excited they may be...it is not coming across while watching the game on t.v.
Lol, it?s just you man.
Must be really boring in rural Manitoba to need to come to online forums on a near daily basis and intentionally start arguments with people for your only form of human interaction.
Quote from: blue_or_die on May 04, 2018, 10:00:52 PM
Lol, it?s just you man.
I don't think so. Preds had underwood do the anthem, fans cheered loud for that....the football guys partying drinking bud off the fish....they always have a band between periods.... fans are on their feet swinging towels steady and cheering, and they come up with original chants to yell at the opposing team......the jet game last night looked like a regular season game with everyone sitting on their hands....they barely chanted go jets go, they had a few lame attempts to boo Subban...and the fans in the street party looked like cattle lined up at a maple leaf plant waiting their turn........
Quote from: Colton on May 04, 2018, 10:10:14 PM
Must be really boring in rural Manitoba to need to come to online forums on a near daily basis and intentionally start arguments with people for your only form of human interaction.
I am not starting arguments. Just posting what I see. Did you want me to make my prediction for the next game ?
And if yer gonna put it that way....it must just as boring in the city if yer coming here everyday eh
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 04, 2018, 09:46:45 PM
You need to relax with the name calling.
I'm sure fans are behind the team. What I am saying is however excited they may be...it is not coming across while watching the game on t.v.
Im not name calling. Its a fact your a troll. Everyone here knows it. Its just a simple fact.
Maybe you need a bigger TV or glasses?
Im pretty sure not once since the playoffs begun have i heard anyone say. Man them fans in Winnipeg look bored on TV, looks like nobody is excited at all.
Seems its just you.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 04, 2018, 10:14:32 PM
Im not name calling. Its a fact your a troll. Everyone here knows it. Its just a simple fact.
Maybe you need a bigger TV or glasses?
Im pretty sure not once since the playoffs begun have i heard anyone say. Man them fans in Winnipeg look bored on TV, looks like nobody is excited at all.
Seems its just you.
My opinions about the jets, on a jet discussion board. You calling it trolling is weak.
And yes, many jet fans in the seats last night were doing nothing but sitting there while the play went on. My tv works fine.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 04, 2018, 10:12:57 PM
I don't think so. Preds had underwood do the anthem, fans cheered loud for that....the football guys partying drinking bud off the fish....they always have a band between periods.... fans are on their feet swinging towels steady and cheering, and they come up with original chants to yell at the opposing team......the jet game last night looked like a regular season game with everyone sitting on their hands....they barely chanted go jets go, they had a few lame attempts to boo Subban...and the fans in the street party looked like cattle lined up at a maple leaf plant waiting their turn........
Her Hubby plays for the Preds. Its the only reason she did that.
So again fans here dont support the team? Really? You dont see the people outside? You dont see the Whiteout? Really?
You dont like the Jets or the fans or the White out ... We got it.
Stop posting about it every day if you dont like it. Thats why your called a troll.... thats what trolls do.
If most posyes dont like something they voice their opinion and move along.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 04, 2018, 10:25:35 PM
Her Hubby plays for the Preds. Its the only reason she did that.
So again fans here dont support the team? Really? You dont see the people outside? You dont see the Whiteout? Really?
You dont like the Jets or the fans or the White out ... We got it.
Stop posting about it every day if you dont like it. Thats why your called a troll.... thats what trolls do.
If most posyes dont like something they voice their opinion and move along.
Whatever, she did it. Made it more fun.
Again, I am not saying the fans in Wpg don't support the team. I am saying they aren't very vocal, and it doesn't look like it is as fun an atmosphere as Nashvilles rink.
That's what I am doing, posting my opinions and moving onto the next day.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 04, 2018, 10:29:18 PM
Whatever, she did it. Made it more fun.
Again, I am not saying the fans in Wpg don't support the team. I am saying they aren't very vocal, and it doesn't look like it is as fun an atmosphere as Nashvilles rink.
That's what I am doing, posting my opinions and moving onto the next day.
Why not mention Doc Walker? They sang a song about the Jets. It was fun, people got excited about it to.
Most people in and around the NHL figure Winnipeg to have the loudest and most hostile fans in the league. Even the Preds coach talked about how loud it is. That right there tells me you have about zero idea what your talking about.
But you dont move on. First you called us stupid fans for having the Whiteout, Now you saying the fans dont get excited and support the team. Your just picking new things to either bash the team or the fans.
Your a troll. Lol
The doc walker thing wasn't that great.
I watched the game last night.....for long stretches everyone is just sitting there....doing nothing but watching. Which is fine they paid for the ticket. They only get loud when there is a score or a bit of a tussle.....but then it fades quick.
I don't think I called the white out "stupid"... I think I called it lame....it's stolen from the first jets franchise....and the home team doesn't wear white anymore so it looks silly to me. Again just my opinion. I thought that stuff was allowed here.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 04, 2018, 10:43:05 PM
The doc walker thing wasn't that great.
I watched the game last night.....for long stretches everyone is just sitting there....doing nothing but watching. Which is fine they paid for the ticket. They only get loud when there is a score or a bit of a tussle.....but then it fades quick.
I don't think I called the white out "stupid"... I think I called it lame....it's stolen from the first jets franchise....and the home team doesn't wear white anymore so it looks silly to me. Again just my opinion. I thought that stuff was allowed here.
Of course the Doc Walker song wasent that great.. LOL A song written buy fans about their team buy a famous band is lame. hahahaha
Have you ever watched sports? Are you new to it? Every arena and stadium in the history of sports goes a bit quiet when their team is not playing well. Game 1 in Nashville was super quiet when they wernt playing well. Game 2 also.
The Whitout was stolen? Its the same fans from the same city. Good grief man. You cant steel something from yourself.
Ya ya that whole whiteout thing is way to confusing for you. We get it. ::)
Really it wasn't that great. I bet it doesn't get used much more...or ever in the future.
It's just that the jet rink is more than " a bit" quiet at times....An it's for long stretches.
The white out just doesn't seem very original, it looks more like a costume party with people trying to get on tv because of their goofy outfits.........new team new ideas I look for.
Can we move on now?.....I was hearing some people are saying Helly looks tired. And the pucks are going right through him......think he will rebound with a big game in Nashville.....or is he maybe burnt out ?
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 04, 2018, 11:03:14 PM
Can we move on now?.....I was hearing some people are saying Helly looks tired. And the pucks are going right through him......think he will rebound with a big game in Nashville.....or is he maybe burnt out ?
Who said Helle looks tired? Where did you hear that?
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 04, 2018, 11:01:02 PM
Really it wasn't that great. I bet it doesn't get used much more...or ever in the future.
It's just that the jet rink is more than " a bit" quiet at times....An it's for long stretches.
The white out just doesn't seem very original....new team new ideas I look for.
Nashville was super quiet for along time also.
The Whiteout is famous all over the NHL. And its not origanal its tradition. No other team has it.
As for Helly tired or burnt out? Not sure who said that ..Ive not heard it. but last nights game had nothing to do with his play. Nash just came out got a lead and played the trap and we didnt react to it very well.
Very pleased with the play of our team - we've shown we can compete with Minnie and Nashville.
Hopefully Kyle Connor can start scoring goals like his line mates Scheif and Wheels.
Ehlers has created some chances with his speed, and hopefully he is rewarded with some goals.
Also, would like to see Perreault and Morrow in the lineup soon.
Quote from: gbill2004 on May 04, 2018, 11:08:12 PM
Who said Helle looks tired? Where did you hear that?
I havent heard that . He looked pretty good. Last nights game had nothing to do with Hellys play at all.
We got sucked into the trap and the players and Maurice didnt react to it.
Quote from: PloenFan on May 04, 2018, 11:12:28 PM
Very pleased with the play of our team - we've shown we can compete with Minnie and Nashville.
Hopefully Kyle Connor can start scoring goals like his line mates Scheif and Wheels.
Ehlers has created some chances with his speed, and hopefully he is rewarded with some goals.
Also, would like to see Perreault and Morrow in the lineup soon.
This.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 04, 2018, 11:01:02 PM
Really it wasn't that great. I bet it doesn't get used much more...or ever in the future.
It's just that the jet rink is more than " a bit" quiet at times....An it's for long stretches.
The white out just doesn't seem very original, it looks more like a costume party with people trying to get on tv because of their goofy outfits.........new team new ideas I look for.
[/quote. I think you?re just biased against Winnipeg if you are from Thompson I can see why you are upset. I hate going there too , but I only work there maybe 2 weeks a year.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 04, 2018, 11:01:02 PM
Really it wasn't that great. I bet it doesn't get used much more...or ever in the future.
It's just that the jet rink is more than " a bit" quiet at times....An it's for long stretches.
The white out just doesn't seem very original, it looks more like a costume party with people trying to get on tv because of their goofy outfits.........new team new ideas I look for.
Again i have to ask.... Do you even watch sports?
Every team in sports has a bunch of people that do this. They have been doing it for years and years. Its got nothing at all to do with Winnipeg or the Whiteout.
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Quote from: gbill2004 on May 04, 2018, 11:08:12 PM
Who said Helle looks tired? Where did you hear that?
I was talking hockey with my son today and he said he was listening to it on tv somewhere....sorry I didn't ask him who was saying it. We just started discussing how there have been some pucks go through him pretty easy.
PS my son was a hockey goalie.
Quote from: buckzumhoff on May 04, 2018, 11:36:10 PM
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 04, 2018, 11:01:02 PM
Really it wasn't that great. I bet it doesn't get used much more...or ever in the future.
It's just that the jet rink is more than " a bit" quiet at times....An it's for long stretches.
The white out just doesn't seem very original, it looks more like a costume party with people trying to get on tv because of their goofy outfits.........new team new ideas I look for.
[/quote. I think you?re just biased against Winnipeg if you are from Thompson I can see why you are upset. I hate going there too , but I only work there maybe 2 weeks a year.
Lol. Try again. I love the Bombers.
I do not get Hendricks playing at all. He?s hard to watch as he is completely ineffective
I pray he is not active next game.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 04, 2018, 11:03:14 PM
Can we move on now?.....I was hearing some people are saying Helly looks tired. And the pucks are going right through him......think he will rebound with a big game in Nashville.....or is he maybe burnt out ?
lol. Yes, let's "move on"....to another baiting comment.
Hellebuyck may have let in some weak ones but he's playing out of his mind and is obviously the primary reason the Jets have gotten as far as they have.
Can we move on now? Because no one else is thinking that.
Rinne let Laine?s shot right through him at the end of the last game. That must mean he?s tired. ::)
Quote from: blue_or_die on May 05, 2018, 02:00:59 PM
lol. Yes, let's "move on"....to another baiting comment.
Hellebuyck may have let in some weak ones but he's playing out of his mind and is obviously the primary reason the Jets have gotten as far as they have.
Can we move on now? Because no one else is thinking that.
Hasn't it been like 4 out of the last 5, or 5 out of 6 goals on helly that could be deemed kinda weak goals though....
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 05, 2018, 04:04:53 PM
Hasn't it been like 4 out of the last 5, or 5 out of 6 goals on helly that could be deemed kinda weak goals though....
Nope. Some have been a bit weak forsure. Happens to every goalie not just Helly.
For example look at Rinne. His last game was not bad but the games before that hes let in a ton of weak goals. He was even pulled. Why dont you mention that? If you are not just a troll you would look at things like this. But we all know how that goes.
Helly is 23 and has never played this many games. Rinne is 35 and has been through al this before.
2 of the leagues best on 2 of the leagues best teams. Both will have weak goals go in sometimes.
But of course you wont mention Rinne because your only here to bash our team and the fans.
That?s all he does. If he isn?t ragging on helly and the jets, it?s nichols and the bombers, yet the mods let him go on and on. I ve drastically cut back on using this forum as I m tired of it, he?s the brad marchant of this Forum.
Quote from: dd on May 05, 2018, 08:23:16 PM
That?s all he does. If he isn?t ragging on helly and the jets, it?s nichols and the bombers, yet the mods let him go on and on. I ve drastically cut back on using this forum as I m tired of it, he?s the brad marchant of this Forum.
Ive heard this from others also.
Ehlers-Scheifele-Wheeler
Connor-Stastny-Laine
Perreault-Lowry-Little
Tanev-Copp-Armia
Morrissey -Trouba
Enstrom-Byfuglien
Chiarot-Myers
Hellebuyck
Mason
Healthy scratches: Poolman, Morrow, Dano, Matthias, Hutchinson, Roslovic, Kulikov, Hendricks
Quote from: dd on May 05, 2018, 08:23:16 PM
That?s all he does. If he isn?t ragging on helly and the jets, it?s nichols and the bombers, yet the mods let him go on and on. I ve drastically cut back on using this forum as I m tired of it, he?s the brad marchant of this Forum.
I'm confused.....people all summer can call for Hurls head on a stick.....as well as put down other players for their play.....but I can't post my opinion on players ?....kinda hypocritical don't ya think ?
And relax I have received a message from the mods today.
Enjoy the game tonight. 😃
Quote from: gbill2004 on May 04, 2018, 11:08:12 PM
Who said Helle looks tired? Where did you hear that?
I am not trying to stir the pot. I just want to answer your question.
My son said he listened to Martin Biron and Jamie McLennan on TSN saying this.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 06, 2018, 12:41:25 AM
I am not trying to stir the pot. I just want to answer your question.
My son said he listened to Martin Biron and Jamie McLennan on TSN saying this.
I dont think they said that. Ive been watching and i never heard that.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 05, 2018, 09:35:08 PM
I'm confused.....people all summer can call for Hurls head on a stick.....as well as put down other players for their play.....but I can't post my opinion on players ?....kinda hypocritical don't ya think ?
And relax I have received a message from the mods today.
Enjoy the game tonight. 😃
It not hypocritical at all. Hurl was awful and needed to go, a blind man could see that
The difference in your constant attacks on Helly and Nichols is these guys are the big reason for our hockey and football clubs turnaround and your criticism is often unjustified and you do it for no other reason than to antognize everyone.
Remember, we are fans of our teams, we've stuck with them throw the bad years, we re not band wagon jumpers like yourself, so when you start ragging on guys who've been critical to our teams success , it's on like donkey Kong brotha!!!
Quote from: dd on May 06, 2018, 01:37:29 AM
It not hypocritical at all. Hurl was awful and needed to go, a blind man could see that
The difference in your constant attacks on Helly and Nichols is these guys are the big reason for our hockey and football clubs turnaround and your criticism is often unjustified and you do it for no other reason than to antognize everyone.
Remember, we are fans of our teams, we've stuck with them throw the bad years, we re not band wagon jumpers like yourself, so when you start ragging on guys who've been critical to our teams success , it's on like donkey Kong brotha!!!
I agree.
Its a hard job to be a fan of your teams. It takes, time, money, emotion, heart and soul through good times and bad. Sure we get mad and yell and scream about players but there is usually a reason for it.
Its easy and weak to just criticize teams and its players and its fans just to get a reaction from its fans when they totally ignore the faults or their own teams and avoid it.
Im not just going to ignore some troll that comes here to just start crap. Thats to easy and i put to much into my teams to just ignore that crap on our fourm.
Not sure if that 1st period was any better than what we saw last game...we didn?t give up any goals so I guess better. Need some offensive pressure in the 2nd.
Quote from: The Zipp on May 06, 2018, 02:33:07 AM
Not sure if that 1st period was any better than what we saw last game...we didn?t give up any goals so I guess better. Need some offensive pressure in the 2nd.
Preds are playing that trap game. Devils use to do it. Its hard to counter.
Not a fan of how they like to stand behind their net for 15 seconds either.
FANTASTIC ....... Stats gets the goal to give the lead to the JETS
Ugh. Great offensive burst and then give up a shorty.
Quote from: The Zipp on May 06, 2018, 03:12:00 AM
Ugh. Great offensive burst and then give up a shorty.
Good Hockey game between 2 really good teams.
Nice to see Kyle Connor finally get that monkey off his back ! :D
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 06, 2018, 02:44:50 AM
Preds are playing that trap game. Devils use to do it. Its hard to counter.
Not a fan of how they like to stand behind their net for 15 seconds either.
Fast skating and moving - crisp passes...
2 goal lead going into the 3rd - not an easy spot to be in...but if the Jets play smart they can hold on. Another goal would be nice
Quote from: dd on May 06, 2018, 01:37:29 AM
It not hypocritical at all. Hurl was awful and needed to go, a blind man could see that
The difference in your constant attacks on Helly and Nichols is these guys are the big reason for our hockey and football clubs turnaround and your criticism is often unjustified and you do it for no other reason than to antognize everyone.
Remember, we are fans of our teams, we've stuck with them throw the bad years, we re not band wagon jumpers like yourself, so when you start ragging on guys who've been critical to our teams success , it's on like donkey Kong brotha!!!
I don't miss Hurl. Lol.
Sorry I was not trying to attack or antagonise anybody. I was just asking questions and learning. I apologize if there was a misunderstanding. Sometimes I think I joke too much.
I am not a bomber bandwagon jumper. I have been on that one since I was a teenager. But yeh if it sounds like I am ragging a bit....straighten me out. Nothing personal.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 06, 2018, 03:22:05 AM
I don't miss Hurl. Lol.
Sorry I was not trying to attack or aganozie anybody. I was just asking questions and learning. I apologize if there was a misunderstanding. Sometimes I think I joke too much.
I am not a bomber bandwagon jumper. I have been on that one since I was a teenager. But yeh if it sounds like I am ragging a bit....straighten me out. Nothing personal.
Bull. You called fans here goofy and lame for dressing up and trying to get on TV knowing full well every sports team in the World does this.
Dont play stupid.
Wait ive seen that already.
Dont play naive.
That was quick!
Save some for next game boys ;)
A splendid #nutting
Monday is going to be epic in Winnipeg! A chance to end the series, 29 degrees, Winnipeg Whiteout... I can?t recall the last time I wanted Monday to get here!
Well that was pretty awesome.
Preds came out strong like last game. This time we adjusted and won it.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 06, 2018, 03:22:05 AM
I don't miss Hurl. Lol.
Sorry I was not trying to attack or antagonise anybody. I was just asking questions and learning. I apologize if there was a misunderstanding. Sometimes I think I joke too much.
I am not a bomber bandwagon jumper. I have been on that one since I was a teenager. But yeh if it sounds like I am ragging a bit....straighten me out. Nothing personal.
you yourself admitted that you were going to jump on another teams bandwagon once your 'Canadian' team was knocked out of the playoffs, the Leafs (spit!), thereby insulting every Jet fan on this forum as the Jets are still in the playoffs. That's antagonizing, that's insulting. You show respect, you get respect, you disrespect, its coming right back at ya.
Quote from: dd on May 06, 2018, 04:28:00 AM
you yourself admitted that you were going to jump on another teams bandwagon once your 'Canadian' team was knocked out of the playoffs, the Leafs (spit!), thereby insulting every Jet fan on this forum as the Jets are still in the playoffs. That's antagonizing, that's insulting. You show respect, you get respect, you disrespect, its coming right back at ya.
I respect the respect stuff. I don't remember cheering for the leafs.
Ignoring our resident troll and getting back to the topic at hand...
I was thinking it would be cool for someone at the game on Monday to buy a catfish,lop the head off, and toss it on the ice. But that would lower us to the standard of our redneck neighbours to the south. It?ll be crazy enough as is.
Quote from: dd on May 06, 2018, 04:28:00 AM
you yourself admitted that you were going to jump on another teams bandwagon once your 'Canadian' team was knocked out of the playoffs, the Leafs (spit!), thereby insulting every Jet fan on this forum as the Jets are still in the playoffs. That's antagonizing, that's insulting. You show respect, you get respect, you disrespect, its coming right back at ya.
To be fair he picked Vegas as the team he would follow.
Not that it matters as hes still a bandwagon fan.
Its weak n easy to just switch it up. Lol
I hope the crowd ignores Subban on Monday. He loves the attention so why not mess with him and not give it?
I love the idea of a headless catfish but I hate that they throw real ones on the ice. Wonder if someone could make a realistic looking one?
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on May 06, 2018, 05:05:17 AM
I hope the crowd ignores Subban on Monday. He loves the attention so why not mess with him and not give it?
I love the idea of a headless catfish but I hate that they throw real ones on the ice. Wonder if someone could make a realistic looking one?
Dont do the catfish thing LOL
Winning this at home will be huge for The Jets.
This will be a HUGE game.
Awesome time to be a Jets fan!
Hard to believe our terrific Jets are on the threshold .......... Connor had finish, Wheels was oh so close & Laine rings one off Stats for a goal YAHOOS !!!
Felt Perrault was superb, Tanev was pounding, HellB was awesome, Morrissey/Trouba were great & Chiarot was a rock.
Monday will be a night for Ehlers & Laine to show finish around the net. GO JETS GO
Quote from: Jockitch on May 06, 2018, 06:30:49 AM
Hard to believe our terrific Jets are on the threshold .......... Connor had finish, Wheels was oh so close & Laine rings one off Stats for a goal YAHOOS !!!
Felt Perrault was superb, Tanev was pounding, HellB was awesome, Morrissey/Trouba were great & Chiarot was a rock.
Monday will be a night for Ehlers & Laine to show finish around the net. GO JETS GO
Agree
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on May 06, 2018, 05:05:17 AM
I hope the crowd ignores Subban on Monday. He loves the attention so why not mess with him and not give it?
We could still mess with him by cheering the first few times he touches the puck. :)
Good game Jets. Connor and Perreault played good. Keep it up.
So what time do we need to be downtown tomorrow night to get a decent view of the screen(s)?
Quote from: The Zipp on May 06, 2018, 05:50:51 PM
So what time do we need to be downtown tomorrow night to get a decent view of the screen(s)?
Leave now haha
Quote from: Stretch on May 06, 2018, 12:16:46 PM
We could still mess with him by cheering the first few times he touches the puck. :)
Or the first time he gets torched for a goal (or is in the box), a...
Sue... Bannn...
Sue... Bannn...
Its all your fault...
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 06, 2018, 06:09:25 PM
Leave now haha
That is what I was afraid of...I think there will be a huge number of people there...be there by 6:30?
Quote from: The Zipp on May 06, 2018, 07:29:25 PM
That is what I was afraid of...I think there will be a huge number of people there...be there by 6:30?
I think it opens at 7. Pretty sure thats when it opened last game.
Are people taking lawnchairs or anything like that? Or tailgaiting? Are they frisking people entering the area?
QuoteHard to believe our terrific Jets are on the threshold .......... Connor had finish, Wheels was oh so close & Laine rings one off Stats for a goal YAHOOS !!!
Felt Perrault was superb, Tanev was pounding, HellB was awesome, Morrissey/Trouba were great & Chiarot was a rock.
Monday will be a night for Ehlers & Laine to show finish around the net. GO JETS GO
Even Enstrom had a decent game - he had one SOG and was +1 ! :o
Now that Kyle Connor broke the playoff goal drought, on Monday, would like to see guys like Ehlers, Lowry, or Roslovic score some goals. ;D
Quote from: PloenFan on May 07, 2018, 12:36:01 AM
Even Enstrom had a decent game - he had one SOG and was +1 ! :o
Now that Kyle Connor broke the playoff goal drought, on Monday, would like to see guys like Ehlers, Lowry, or Roslovic score some goals. ;D
Hes not playing
Quote from: theaardvark on May 06, 2018, 07:07:03 PM
Or the first time he gets torched for a goal (or is in the box), a...
Sue... Bannn...
Sue... Bannn...
Its all your fault...
I d love to hear that. Same for Rinne Give them a dose of their own medicine!!!
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on May 06, 2018, 05:05:17 AM
I hope the crowd ignores Subban on Monday. He loves the attention so why not mess with him and not give it?
This. It seems like booing him makes him play better.
Quote from: buckzumhoff on May 06, 2018, 02:06:50 PM
Good game Jets. Connor and Perreault played good. Keep it up.
Agreed. Connor had a monster of a game and Perreault played a solid, intense game. Need more of that from both going forward.
Huge game tonight! Beautiful day, Whiteout Street Party should be packed, and the Jets have a great opportunity to put on one heck of a show to advance to the WCF.
Quote from: dd on May 07, 2018, 01:43:15 AM
I d love to hear that. Same for Rinne Give them a dose of their own medicine!!!
Nashville is good at the chanting eh..
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 07, 2018, 01:37:25 PM
Nashville is good at the chanting eh..
Unless they're getting pounded. Crowd must have been sitting on their hands Saturday night.
Looked kinda lame...eh?
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 07, 2018, 01:37:25 PM
Nashville is good at the chanting eh..
Not really. Half their fans walked out on their team last game
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 07, 2018, 01:33:15 PM
This. It seems like booing him makes him play better.
Agreed. Connor had a monster of a game and Perreault played a solid, intense game. Need more of that from both going forward.
Huge game tonight! Beautiful day, Whiteout Street Party should be packed, and the Jets have a great opportunity to put on one heck of a show to advance to the WCF.
Pretty much agree with all this
Quote from: theaardvark on May 06, 2018, 11:48:31 PM
Are people taking lawnchairs or anything like that? Or tailgaiting? Are they frisking people entering the area?
I heard WPS will be strictly enforcing thermos checks for hot chocolate that is lukewarm.
Quote from: GCn17 on May 07, 2018, 02:55:50 PM
I heard WPS will be strictly enforcing thermos checks for hot chocolate that is lukewarm.
Lol
saw a bit of Sportsnet Central at Noon show & one of the fellas says that Little is reported to be iffy for the game.
......... Anyone hear something to that effect ?
Quote from: Jockitch on May 07, 2018, 06:23:40 PM
saw a bit of Sportsnet Central at Noon show & one of the fellas says that Little is reported to be iffy for the game.
......... Anyone hear something to that effect ?
Yeah, hearing that as well from the local reporters who were at the morning skate. Hendricks is a game time decision for Little...ugh
The Winnipeg Jets have reassigned defenseman Logan Stanley from the OHL Rangers to the MB Moose. Stanley was a first round pick, 18th overall, of the Jets in 2016 and posted 42 points (15G, 27A) in 61 games this season. #WinnipegJets #LoganStanley #WPG
As per Instagram, Teemu is on his way to the game! You know, just goes to show you how lame the Winnipeg Whiteout is that former beloved players want to come a be a part of it... (sarcasm) Teemu on the big screen will about make the building implode!
I am so nervous for this game! Everything is aligning to be the perfect way to end the series tonight. I just hope the Jets come out so amped, get a quick lead and don?t look back. There is very little margin for errors tonight.
Crowd is absolutely insane. Chose to go to game 4 over game 6 and I feel like I made a big mistake.
Rinne is sharp tonight. If the preds can hang on we are going to a game seven.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 08, 2018, 03:33:50 AM
Rinne is sharp tonight. If the preds can hang on we are going to a game seven.
As per the rule of sports
we need a nice deflection, early in the 3rd, to get back into it score wise
Quote from: Jockitch on May 08, 2018, 03:44:22 AM
we need a nice deflection, early in the 3rd, to get back into it score wise
Two straight days of my teams putting out a decent offensive output with absolutely nothing to show for it. At some point something has gotta bounce in.
Can somebody tell me why my comments are being deleted........because if whatever I have been saying is wrong I will correct that.....otherwise I am really learning nothing about how to post here right now....
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 08, 2018, 04:17:05 AM
Can somebody tell me why my comments are being deleted........because if whatever I have been saying is wrong I will correct that.....otherwise I am really learning nothing about how to post here right now....
Trolling is against the code of conduct of the forum:
http://forums.bluebombers.com/index.php?topic=42363.0
It's not trolling. It's discussion about the Jets and the game.
If the way you are saying it is Colton....then there are a lot of trolls during the Bombers season on this site.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 08, 2018, 04:23:42 AM
It's not trolling. It's discussion about the Jets and the game.
If the way you are saying it is Colton....then there are a lot of trolls during the Bombers season on this site.
Please. Don?t plead ignorance. You know perfectly well that your comments are made to irritate Jets fans. Can?t you find a new hobby other than trolling?
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 08, 2018, 04:23:42 AM
It's not trolling. It's discussion about the Jets and the game.
If the way you are saying it is Colton....then there are a lot of trolls during the Bombers season on this site.
It isn't discussion about the Jets. You continuously come into a Jets discussion thread for no other purpose than to tell Jets fans you are cheering against whoever is playing against them, that all of their traditions are stupid and boring, that you predict them to lose every game that they play, and that every call made in favour of the Jets is wrong and the refs who made it are enept.
You are not a Predators fan coming on here to foster actual discussion about the series, you're just simply anti-Jets and trying to rile up Jets fans by letting them know you are rooting for their elimination. You are not trying to foster any discussion with any other member of this forum that isn't with the purpose of getting under their skin. It's painfully obvious what the intent of every message you post in this thread, and several others on the offside forum.
If you need someone to hear about how much you dislike the Jets and wish them to lose, there are multiple Nashville Predators forums available to you. Doing so on a Jets forum is just simply trolling in every sense of the word.
I would only say praise and criticism here is allowed but there has to be balance. Logic says a team near the bottom of the league or struggling in any sport is likely to get a lot of disappointment and criticism directed its way.
However, the Jets have had a stellar season (2nd in league standings I believe) and are still in the playoffs playing the #1 team in league standings. That suggests they deserve a ton of accolades. There is little room to be critical and to do so appears to be an attempt to be simply contrary or seeking attention.
Let's recognize their accomplishments and get the discussion back on track as game 7 means the Jets are still in it. The Jets have shown they can win regardless of where they play.
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 08, 2018, 04:17:05 AM
Can somebody tell me why my comments are being deleted........because if whatever I have been saying is wrong I will correct that.....otherwise I am really learning nothing about how to post here right now....
Good to see the Mods are on the ball, and your childish, antagonistic act is being dealt with. It?s about time!!!!
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on May 08, 2018, 04:17:05 AM
Can somebody tell me why my comments are being deleted........because if whatever I have been saying is wrong I will correct that.....otherwise I am really learning nothing about how to post here right now....
Consider yourself lucky it's only your garbage comments and not your entire account. So far, anyway.
Quote from: Colton on May 08, 2018, 04:29:25 AM
It isn't discussion about the Jets. You continuously come into a Jets discussion thread for no other purpose than to tell Jets fans you are cheering against whoever is playing against them, that all of their traditions are stupid and boring, that you predict them to lose every game that they play, and that every call made in favour of the Jets is wrong and the refs who made it are enept.
You are not a Predators fan coming on here to foster actual discussion about the series, you're just simply anti-Jets and trying to rile up Jets fans by letting them know you are rooting for their elimination. You are not trying to foster any discussion with any other member of this forum that isn't with the purpose of getting under their skin. It's painfully obvious what the intent of every message you post in this thread, and several others on the offside forum.
If you need someone to hear about how much you dislike the Jets and wish them to lose, there are multiple Nashville Predators forums available to you. Doing so on a Jets forum is just simply trolling in every sense of the word.
Exactly right. And if it isn't the Jets, it's Matt Nichols. It's pathetic.
Anyway, the Jets had another stinker after giving up a ridiculously strange first goal. And then it was eerily reminiscent of game 4, IMO. And a real shame they couldn't close it out in front of the fans, who had basically nothing to cheer for last night.
It all comes down to game 7. Is anyone really that surprised, though?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 08, 2018, 03:43:10 PM
It all comes down to game 7. Is anyone really that surprised, though?
Not in the slightest. We did have a brief period of hope though, which makes a game 7 seem disappointing even though it was expected.
Quote from: Jesse on May 08, 2018, 04:13:01 PM
Not in the slightest. We did have a brief period of hope though, which makes a game 7 seem disappointing even though it was expected.
For sure. I thought the tide had turned after game 5 and the Jets would've been able to close it last night at home. I'm still shocked at how seemingly flat the home team was at times. It was just so strange to see for a second straight home game.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 08, 2018, 04:54:56 PM
For sure. I thought the tide had turned after game 6 and the Jets would've been able to close it last night at home. I'm still shocked at how seemingly flat the home team was at times last night. It was just so strange to see for a second straight game.
Yeah, the whole series seems to be Team A is good and Team B is flat, followed by the opposite the next night, and then cycle through that a few times to get a 3-3 series.
On the worrisome side, we have to play it at Bridgestone. On the positive side, we have been generally good there (majority of our wins there!), and are due for our "good game" according to the pattern.
Gonna need the defibrillator Thursday.
Super disappointing we couldn't close this thing out last night...to not score more than 1 goal at home the last two games is concerning. Our PP was terrible and we got zero bounces our way...I really think we blew it these home games and hope we can overcome and move on...not like this season wasn't fun but not winning at home will haunt me...
On game 7 - nothing would surprise me at all at this point...we could blow them out 5- 0, get blown out or win/lose in OT...can't predict anything with these two teams...sucks it all comes down to one game and potentially a bad call, greasy goal or one missplay. I guess that is why we love sports so much!
White out street party was fun...feel bad for really short people - sucks for them as it would be hard to see the game...we are both over 6 feet but still ended up going to the family section behind the library so we could sit on the grass instead of standing.
We managed to get a few scoring chances in Nashville's end last night.
It looked as if we could have scored some goals and perhaps beaten Nashville it we could have:
- beaten them to loose pucks
- cut down on giveaways
- screened Rinne on shots from the point
It's the top 2 teams going at it in this Jekyll and Hyde series, one minute one team looks like they won't lose another game the next minute they look like they won't win another game
Game 7 will be epic--ya gotta believe folks!!! we re taking this series--there is no tomorrow , Jets will play desparate hockey and win this
I didn't realize Pekka Rinne was 35 years old.
Since Connor Hellebuyck is only 24 (his birthday is May 19th), our goaltending should be secure for years to come ! :)
Quote from: PloenFan on May 09, 2018, 02:47:56 PM
I didn't realize Pekka Rinne was 35 years old.
Since Connor Hellebuyck is only 24 (his birthday is May 19th), our goaltending should be secure for years to come ! :)
Rinne has been around for a while as long as Lundqvist
I'm thinking that being on the road might be less of a disadvantage that I might have conjectured before.
It feels like Maurice outcoached himself, with his line matching. Yes, it should be an tactical advantage, but it almost seemed like it was a distraction.
On the road, you don't have to worry about that, just roll out the players and let the other coach worry about matching.
I'm hoping that this simplification, and the players just going out there and doing their thing gives us that road win.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 09, 2018, 05:23:39 PM
I'm thinking that being on the road might be less of a disadvantage that I might have conjectured before.
It feels like Maurice outcoached himself, with his line matching. Yes, it should be an tactical advantage, but it almost seemed like it was a distraction.
On the road, you don't have to worry about that, just roll out the players and let the other coach worry about matching.
I'm hoping that this simplification, and the players just going out there and doing their thing gives us that road win.
I mean, there's nothing stopping you from rolling whatever lines you want at home either, you don't have to line match just because you have the ability to.
I do think the Jets will see a better result tomorrow night though.
Pressure's on the Preds & that's worth a 1/2 goal for the Jets, if you are a gambler.
Little & Lowry have to elevate their lines & each unit get goals ..... our Top 6 is due to show finish
Jets win in a nail biter 5 - 3, with an empty netter crushing the P.K. out of our foes.
Ugh, I'm losing my mind I'm so nervous.
Quote from: blue_or_die on May 10, 2018, 08:38:31 PM
Ugh, I'm losing my mind I'm so nervous.
If I were a Nashville fan, I'd be nervous. If I was a Nashville players, even more so.
We, players and fans, have no worries. If we lose, its to the President's CUp winners in thier building. We are not *supposed* to win this game. So, we have nothing to lose, at all.
Whereas Nashville has everything to lose. Everything.
Go get 'em guys. Time for a Buff Bash, and for the sneaky Ehlers saucer pass to the tape of the Laine one timer for the win...
Quote from: theaardvark on May 10, 2018, 09:07:09 PM
If I were a Nashville fan, I'd be nervous. If I was a Nashville players, even more so.
We, players and fans, have no worries. If we lose, its to the President's CUp winners in thier building. We are not *supposed* to win this game. So, we have nothing to lose, at all.
Whereas Nashville has everything to lose. Everything.
Go get 'em guys. Time for a Buff Bash, and for the sneaky Ehlers saucer pass to the tape of the Laine one timer for the win...
Dude, what are you talking about. We?re not a down and out Cinderella team, we finished second in the league and could have ended this series in game 6. No one is satisfied here.
Jets up 4 - 1 ........is it too early to say YAHOO !!
Pinch me ....... Jets WIN the Jets WIN
I'm a huge football, CFL, and Bomber Fan. But.....this is the NHL baby and IMO this is the biggest win in Manitoba sports history.
Yup
How 'bout them Jets ! :D
Quote from: bomb squad on May 11, 2018, 03:17:13 AM
I'm a huge football, CFL, and Bomber Fan. But.....this is the NHL baby and IMO this is the biggest win in Manitoba sports history.
Same, but there is absolutely no comparison, every corner of this province is fixated on this playoff run, a tremendous moment in time for us all indeed. I remember bobby hull signing at P&M like yesterday, this seems surreal!!!!
So much fun and intence to be a Jet fan.
Now, on to the Knights...
Our squad is healthy, and coming off defeating the President's Cup winner, chasing the Vezina favourite off the ice 3 times in the series.
MAF is a stellar performer, but I think this may be his Waterloo. Vegas has made it this far on having a balanced attack, and a roster full of solid players who work hard, and a coach that is getting everything they have out of them.
I think everything that Vegas has, we have in spades. I'm expecting it to be physical, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Tanev and Perreault getting under the skin of the Vegas players often enough to make them start making mistakes.
As much as they are a "Cinderella" team, midnight eventually strikes. I think it's lose a shoe time for Vegas...
Woke up still wondering if this is all a dream. So happy it isn't! This team has ignited the entire province! Can't wait for Saturday to get here.
I don't expect to get much work done today.
Happy Friday, everyone ;)
Quote from: PloenFan on May 11, 2018, 03:32:42 AM
How 'bout them Jets ! :D
Another unbelievable performance on the road last night. Absolutely spectacular!
Jesus ****** I got no sleeps last night
Crazy...that is why you avoid getting to game 7 if you can - goalie has an off night (or off 10 minutes) and you can be done.
PK can be crying and diving into his cereal this morning.
Vegas will be tough - they are very fast and MAF has been a brick wall in net. Hopefully the Jets can shake off the ghosts of playing poorly at home and deliver two wins before heading to LV...
Home ice advantage all the way to the Cup now.
I have to bring these up again because it just keeps getting funnier :D
Quote from: bomber4life85 on August 16, 2017, 05:39:06 AM
My post was stating that the Jets prospects aren't any good and they showed it. Did they come close to playoffs? No. And you claim I don't know what a prospect is. I never stated I didn't know. With their lack of signings and improvements this year it's going to be another loooong year. 5th in division is generous, they may take 6th infront of Colorado
Quote from: bomber4life85 on August 16, 2017, 06:24:48 AM
Colton I said the prospects suck because the AHL team sucks. Not because they didn't make the playoffs. I stated they didn't make the playoffs. I'm not dumb. I know what prospects are. Someone mentioned prospect pool. I said what prospect pool. Our prospects have been prospects since 2011. Nothing's amounted to anything. The young stars tourney of Jets prospects were absolutly terrible. Winnipegs AHL team was near bottom of the league.. again..so where's all these prospects?? Let me clarify my point again. The jets aren't going anywhere. They will be near bottom of division again. Their goaltending sucks, their D sucks and their prospects aren't amounting to anything. There's no arguing that because the proof is in the stats. They fluked playoffs one year because Pavelec decided to stun the league with amazing goaltending. I just don't see anyone stepping up on D or goaltending to make a difference this year. The few prospects that have done very well for Winnipeg and are still year don't have a team built around them. Bad trades, cheap out signings are a huge part of the problem. Who's stepping up on D this year? Who's stepping up in goal? I don't see anyone. They took a step forward when they made the playoffs.. it's been a step back every year since then.
Quote from: bomber4life85 on August 16, 2017, 06:20:16 PM
Who said I was an Oilers fan I just tell it like it is. You can keep saying Jets had wins against string opponents etc. I never said they wouldn't win a game. Some people can't handle the truth about Jets poor management and it's the reason why they will miss the playoffs again. Like I said last year. I tell it like it is. Not bias. If the Jets were capable of a playoff push and had a chance, I'd have no issue saying it. Anyways that's all I'm saying in the Jets part of this forum until they're out agsin in feb . ;)
Quote from: bomber4life85 on August 21, 2017, 11:04:57 PM
Uhh he's been hardcore oil fan since I can remember even when they sucked. Oilers are a team to talk about now. They'll likely be next cdn team to win cup. Jersey always is on hockey forums talking bout Oilers last 10 years. He's literally Winnipeg s biggest oil fan since like 2002
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on May 11, 2018, 02:59:48 PM
I have to bring these up again because it just keeps getting funnier :D
Awesome! Haven't heard a peep from Jersey either, lol!
To be fair, the proof was in the stats... :D
Quote from: Colton on May 11, 2018, 03:19:57 PM
To be fair, the proof was in the stats... :D
I certainly didn't expect Helle to do what he's done. I assumed our offence would look great, but that our D would hold us back.
I thought Mason was pretty much a Pavelic clone and hoped that Helle would take a small step forward in development. His Vezina calibre season took me by surprise.
Quote from: The Zipp on May 11, 2018, 01:27:12 PM
PK can be crying and diving into his cereal this morning.
LOL :D
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on May 11, 2018, 02:59:48 PM
I have to bring these up again because it just keeps getting funnier :D
Never-ending entertainment, eh! ;D
Vegas has gotten a lot of mileage out of their team speed this playoffs, however, unlike their competition thus far we can match their team speed. We also match up in the goaltending battle. Can they match our skill and depth? NOPE.
Jets in 5
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on May 11, 2018, 02:59:48 PM
I have to bring these up again because it just keeps getting funnier :D
Lol...thats way to funny.
Getting close to Showtime ....... but in this case it is not on stage in Vegas
Looking forward to the spectacle of speed & tenacity by both teams ........ with hope that the Jets have more finish with the chances they get.
Buff looks possessed.
The team needs to play a lot better, this should have been 7-0 before the third period started.
They were fast, they were hitting, but they did not have finish.
Will be interesting to see what Gallant does for game 2, and whether we can step it up...
Quote from: theaardvark on May 13, 2018, 04:19:38 AM
The team needs to play a lot better
They prevented the Knights from taking a shot on net for over 10 minutes in the third, they absolutely do not need to play better to beat Vegas.
I think both teams can play better, and this is going to be a pretty exciting series ! :)
Quote from: Colton on May 13, 2018, 04:37:09 AM
They prevented the Knights from taking a shot on net for over 10 minutes in the third, they absolutely do not need to play better to beat Vegas.
Vegas will play better at some point in this series but the Jets should be able to match them. MAF can keep them in games alone. If the Jets can stay focused they can win in 5 or 6..
Quote from: Colton on May 13, 2018, 04:37:09 AM
They prevented the Knights from taking a shot on net for over 10 minutes in the third, they absolutely do not need to play better to beat Vegas.
Not talking about Vegas...
If/when they finish off Vegas, there is still one more series to win...
Quote from: theaardvark on May 13, 2018, 06:03:52 AM
Not talking about Vegas...
If/when they finish off Vegas, there is still one more series to win...
4 games the caliber they played Game 1 would sweep any of the three remaining teams.
I think Vegas may have been caught off guard with how the Jets played last night. They have not nearly had the level of intensity in their previous series that the Jets have. If the Jets play, and in particular start, this way each game of the series, they?ll win the series no problem. Dare I even say a sweep... Tomorrow we?ll see how Vegas responds.
Quote from: Colton on May 13, 2018, 08:08:07 AM
4 games the caliber they played Game 1 would sweep any of the three remaining teams.
Yup.... I agree
Laine: Buff's goal "was kind of a muffin"...
Curious, what does that mean? I'm not familiar with the use of that term...
[EDIT]
OK... thanks wiki..
Muffin
A shot that wavers in the air when traveling towards the goal, usually used in recognition of a goal that should have been stopped, or a bad shot.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 13, 2018, 03:05:37 PM
Laine: Buff's goal "was kind of a muffin"...
Curious, what does that mean? I'm not familiar with the use of that term...
[EDIT]
OK... thanks wiki..
Muffin
A shot that wavers in the air when traveling towards the goal, usually used in recognition of a goal that should have been stopped, or a bad shot.
Soft n mushy
Wow. Capitals power play sure looks like the Jets. What a match up that would be...
Will be shocked if it isn?t wash vs win for the cup. Tampa had an easy road and it shows now
Quote from: The Zipp on May 14, 2018, 02:45:08 AM
Will be shocked if it isn?t wash vs win for the cup. Tampa had an easy road and it shows now
Boston had the 4th best record in the NHL this year.
Quote from: sweep the leg on May 14, 2018, 01:00:38 PM
Boston had the 4th best record in the NHL this year.
They sure didn't play like that was the case these playoffs. Perhaps even the upper echelon teams in the Atlantic were also not so great and had the benefit of beating up all the Buffalos all year.
Quote from: sweep the leg on May 14, 2018, 01:00:38 PM
Boston had the 4th best record in the NHL this year.
And then they stunk in the playoffs.
Quote from: blue_or_die on May 14, 2018, 01:24:59 PM
They sure didn't play like that was the case these playoffs. Perhaps even the upper echelon teams in the Atlantic were also not so great and had the benefit of beating up all the Buffalos all year.
Don't forget Ottawa, Montreal, and Detroit. The Atlantic division was 50% a dumpster fire this season.
In all honesty I'm feeling very good about tonight. I'm trying not to feel "cocky"- Vegas isn't going to roll over and die and we can't expect every game this series to be the first period of G1. What I do want, though, is to go up 2-0 before having to play on the road so that we have a good cushion and are in good position to win after we come back home (or dare I say not have to worry about winning any more games at home after our Vegas trip? :o)
we needed to beat the Flower on that PP to start the 3rd. Vegas is playing us tough & close
Here we go again...solid win followed by a lacklustre, flat next game. What gives? No counterpunch at all for the way Vegas started the game.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on May 15, 2018, 02:36:54 AM
Here we go again...solid win followed by a lacklustre, flat next game. What gives? No counterpunch at all for the way Vegas started the game.
Not a great game.
Looked a lil slow and tired. Maybe being away from home will give them a jump.
Felt there was a lot of Jet individual attempts/rushes ....... perhaps a breakdown of film would show how Vegas took away the pass
No finish on the PP to start the 3rd was a killer.
Quote from: Jockitch on May 15, 2018, 03:01:19 AM
Felt there was a lot of Jet individual attempts/rushes ....... perhaps a breakdown of film would show how Vegas took away the pass
No finish on the PP to start the 3rd was a killer.
They all tried to win it on their own rather then a team tonight.
They will bounce back.
Win one, lose one... means they win the SC in 7...
I saw a lot of flashes from game #6 against the Preds. That being said I don't think we played as abysmal. Jets had their chances, but in the end just couldn't find the back of the net. Vegas won the stick battle that's for sure, and played hard man on man.
Don Cherry predicted the Jets in 6. Certainly looks that way now.
For them to clinch at home, they would have lose at least one game... so we've gotten that out of the way...
A crappy loss but I wouldn't say the Jets were terrible last night. The handful of glaring errors made were simply costly and ended in the back of the net. If a few bounces go the other way, maybe we're talking about a 2-0 series lead.
They seem to bounce back from these losses, though. So, I expect a better game tomorrow in Sin City.
Needed to capitalize on Fleury shakey play off the start. Unfortunately we didn't and had some really bad giveaways, Connor coughing it up in the neutral zone that led to the second goal was pretty bad.
Quote from: bluengold204 on May 15, 2018, 01:38:22 PM
Connor coughing it up in the neutral zone that led to the second goal was pretty bad.
And Trouba's ill-timed pinch that led to goal #3.
Quote from: bluengold204 on May 15, 2018, 01:38:22 PM
Needed to capitalize on Fleury shakey play off the start. Unfortunately we didn't and had some really bad giveaways, Connor coughing it up in the neutral zone that led to the second goal was pretty bad.
I wouldn't put that one all on Connor. He never fully got control of the puck, and the rest of the line bailed before making sure the puck got into the offensive zone. That whole line messed up.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on May 15, 2018, 06:25:39 PM
I wouldn't put that one all on Connor. He never fully got control of the puck, and the rest of the line bailed before making sure the puck got into the offensive zone. That whole line messed up.
Yeah it was definitely a **** line change
So, just an observation about yesterday's game but there was no fly-by again.
Since the Jets introduced the fly-by in round 2, their home record is 2-3. In their two wins, there were fly-bys. In their three losses, there were not.
Interesting coincidence.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 16, 2018, 01:15:05 AM
So, just an observation about yesterday's game but there was no fly-by again.
Since the Jets introduced the fly-by in round 2, their home record is 2-3. In their two wins, there were fly-bys. In their three losses, there were not.
Interesting coincidence.
Definitely need more fly bys
More fodder against the flatbillies:
http://www.ckom.com/2018/05/15/golden-knights-mascot-makes-sask-stop-to-rally-team-support/?sc_ref=direct (http://www.ckom.com/2018/05/15/golden-knights-mascot-makes-sask-stop-to-rally-team-support/?sc_ref=direct)
If you can't be 'em, hate 'em I guess...
Quote from: blue_or_die on May 16, 2018, 02:18:27 PM
More fodder against the flatbillies:
http://www.ckom.com/2018/05/15/golden-knights-mascot-makes-sask-stop-to-rally-team-support/?sc_ref=direct (http://www.ckom.com/2018/05/15/golden-knights-mascot-makes-sask-stop-to-rally-team-support/?sc_ref=direct)
If you can't be 'em, hate 'em I guess...
"They say mean things to us." Yeah, and everything they say to Bomber fans who are in Saskatchewan is warm and welcoming.
Boo hoo.... ::)
Quote from: blue_or_die on May 16, 2018, 02:18:27 PM
More fodder against the flatbillies:
http://www.ckom.com/2018/05/15/golden-knights-mascot-makes-sask-stop-to-rally-team-support/?sc_ref=direct (http://www.ckom.com/2018/05/15/golden-knights-mascot-makes-sask-stop-to-rally-team-support/?sc_ref=direct)
If you can't be 'em, hate 'em I guess...
Boy, they really do have attention issues in Saskatchewan, lol! Poor Sask, so desperate to find a way to bring media attention your way, hey? It really is funny. I could care less that they are pushing to swing fans to cheer for Vegas. As for Vegas, I just hope for their sake that they can maintain their attendance and fan base when they inevitably have a year where the team sucks. It's mighty easy to jump on the bandwagon when the team is pushing for a cup, but much harder to stick with the team in the tough times. Time will tell...
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on May 16, 2018, 04:57:27 PM
Boy, they really do have attention issues in Saskatchewan, lol! Poor Sask, so desperate to find a way to bring media attention your way, hey? It really is funny. I could care less that they are pushing to swing fans to cheer for Vegas. As for Vegas, I just hope for their sake that they can maintain their attendance and fan base when they inevitably have a year where the team sucks. It's mighty easy to jump on the bandwagon when the team is pushing for a cup, but much harder to stick with the team in the tough times. Time will tell...
Ok screw Sasksbush every LDC I go to the locals are always the Jets this the Jets that like there from Manitoba. This makes a whole ton of sense!
The ?personalities? are as dumb as Rod Pederson
Crap -- no Ehlers. Young Roslovic will keep the Knights busy chasing his energy.
OOOOOOPS ........ down by 1 virtually immediately
What is hellebucyk doing.
Before tonights ....... our depth is not goal producing.
Our regular RH Dmen have 10 goals while our regular LH Dmen have zero in the playoffs.
Scheif, Conman & Wheels have been absolutely fantastic & they are at 18 goals (not counting Scheif's 2 tonight so far)
Stats at 6, laine at 4 & Ehlers with zippo are getting some chances but are not happening enough.
Our last six regular forwards are a Producing Disaster,......... Tanev has 4 & the rest total 5.
If jets are going to progress ........ the rest need to make a lot more happen & finish on their offensive plays
Quote from: Jockitch on May 17, 2018, 03:27:38 AM
Before tonights ....... our depth is not goal producing.
Our regular RH Dmen have 10 goals while our regular LH Dmen have zero in the playoffs.
Scheif, Conman & Wheels have been absolutely fantastic & they are at 18 goals (not counting Scheif's 2 tonight so far)
Stats at 6, laine at 4 & Ehlers with zippo are getting some chances but are not happening enough.
Our last six regular forwards are a Producing Disaster,......... Tanev has 4 & the rest total 5.
If jets are going to progress ........ the rest need to make a lot more happen & finish on their offensive plays
Vegas had a week to watch us. They have sorta figured it out.
Im not one to complain about Reffing but this game it sucked.
Quote from: buckzumhoff on May 17, 2018, 02:25:57 AM
What is hellebucyk doing.
Getting little to no help at inopportune times. Hellebuyck's success this season and postseason has benefited considerably from the play in front of him. He's been hung out pretty badly the last two games and it's reminded me quite a bit of 2016-17: poorly timed pinches, lousy/lazy back-checking, poor stick/body positioning. Committing these errors in the playoffs is costly more often than not.
Anyway, an ugly start and then down by one way too early. Get the equalizer... And then crap the bed 12 seconds later. The boys finally got their collective act together in the third but Fleury was already dialed in by then and that was that.
This team has got to be better on Friday and bring the series home tied. They can ill afford to go down 3-1 against this team. Cleaning up the mistakes has to be top priority. The errors they've committed the last two games have basically all wound up in the back of the net.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 17, 2018, 04:06:53 AM
Vegas had a week to watch us. They have sorta figured it out.
Not sure I buy that. The Jets knew they'd be facing this team before the series vs. the Predators had ended. They knew who their opponent would be and that showed in game 1 of this series. To me, it looks like they've underestimated the Knights' speed and skill and have now paid for it in back-to-back games. They appeared to have figured it out tonight and really laid it on in the final frame, but now they have to carry that momentum into game 4 if they have any hope of making this a best of three.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 17, 2018, 04:20:29 AM
Getting little to no help at inopportune times. Hellebuyck's success this season and postseason has benefited considerably from the play in front of him. He's been hung out pretty badly the last two games and it's reminded me quite a bit of 2016-17: poorly timed pinches, lousy/lazy back-checking, poor stick/body positioning. Committing these errors in the playoffs is costly more often than not.
Anyway, an ugly start and then down by one way too early. Get the equalizer... And then crap the bed 12 seconds later. The boys finally got their collective act together in the third but Fleury was already dialed in by then and that was that.
This team has got to be better on Friday and bring the series home tied. They can ill afford to go down 3-1 against this team. Cleaning up the mistakes has to be top priority. The errors they've committed the last two games have basically all wound up in the back of the net.
Not sure I buy that. The Jets knew they'd be facing this team before the series vs. the Predators had ended. They knew who their opponent would be and that showed in game 1 of this series. To me, it looks like they've underestimated the Knights' speed and skill and have now paid for it in back-to-back games. They appeared to have figured it out tonight and really laid it on in the final frame, but now they have to carry that momentum into game 4 if they have any hope of making this a best of three.
Buy it or not.... Vegas was watching and resting as we were playing games.
I have faith we win this. Just have to figure it out.
Include me also in having faith that the Jets will win the series .......... however, the depth players have to finish & the lazy mistakes & mental errors cleaned up.
This team in general has been far from perfect the last two games. Credit the Knights for capitalizing on our errors. Agree with blue_gold_84; helly's errors were costly, but there is definitely blame to share. They discussed this on the panel during the 2nd intermission. Helly's weakness are his backhands behind the net. A lot of "should've's" for this game. He's GOT to be better and we cannot afford a 3-1 deficit heading home.
I always had a soft spot for Fleury when the Pens became my go-to team in the absence of the jets, but last night, I hated him lol
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 17, 2018, 04:20:29 AM
Getting little to no help at inopportune times. Hellebuyck's success this season and postseason has benefited considerably from the play in front of him. He's been hung out pretty badly the last two games and it's reminded me quite a bit of 2016-17: poorly timed pinches, lousy/lazy back-checking, poor stick/body positioning. Committing these errors in the playoffs is costly more often than not.
I can't speak for Bukzumoff but I think he was referring to Helle's poor play of the puck right onto the stick of a Knight to score the second(?) goal.
I for one thought he did/is doing pretty well considering Vegas has done a great job capitalizing on our mistakes and getting breakaways and 2 on 1's, etc. He's making the routine saves when we need them.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 17, 2018, 04:51:49 AM
Buy it or not.... Vegas was watching and resting as we were playing games.
I have faith we win this. Just have to figure it out.
But then why did the Jets win the first game?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 17, 2018, 03:48:58 PM
But then why did the Jets win the first game?
Because they scored more goals ;D
Watching the game last night....I can't recall two faster teams playing...you blink and you miss something good. Hoping Winnipeg gets to the Final of course...but couldn't complain about 7 games.
Quote from: trapper on May 17, 2018, 04:53:51 PM
couldn't complain about 7 games.
I don't think my blood pressure can take four more games of this.
Quote from: Stretch on May 17, 2018, 05:13:35 PM
I don't think my blood pressure can take four more games of this.
Ya, I'm not a true Jets fan....I cheer for any Canadian Teams. I did follow LV this year though...I LOVE underdog / cinderella stories... The Jets are a special story with the years and history they had...couldn't imagine the Stanley Cup landing in a better place than Winnipeg.
Quote from: trapper on May 17, 2018, 05:43:57 PM
Ya, I'm not a true Jets fan....I cheer for any Canadian Teams. I did follow LV this year though...I LOVE underdog / cinderella stories... The Jets are a special story with the years and history they had...couldn't imagine the Stanley Cup landing in a better place than Winnipeg.
Thanks trapper!
unfortunately did not hear why Ehlers sat out .......... can anyone supply the reason used or update of such.
Quote from: Jockitch on May 17, 2018, 06:49:46 PM
unfortunately did not hear why Ehlers sat out .......... can anyone supply the reason used or update of such.
doesn't really help all i heard was an 'undisclosed' injury
http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/23525731/jets-winger-nikolaj-ehlers-misses-game-3-vs-golden-knights-undisclosed-injury
yes that is all I saw as well ......... wondered if it was "malaise" again (snicker, snicker)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 17, 2018, 03:48:58 PM
But then why did the Jets win the first game?
Coming off a huge game 7 win and all the excitment and energy from it. Also Vegas might not have had their legs after the layoff.
The Jets will get it together and get it done.
Final 4 teams are all very good. It comes down to who makes the least amount of errors. Helley botched a couple and that was that, but hey, the guys stolen games for us all year and is the primary reason we be made it this far. Off nights happen. He ll bounce back and we ll crush these guys
I would be a lot more nervous this morning if the Jets looked like crap last game, but aside from a weak sauce start, we played great. Just need to keep our foot on the gas and eventually we'll beat Fleury a few times.
Now that they've played one at home, I don't expect them to be able to explode and score at 0:25 again. That'll throw any team off. I expect a hard fought game and when we are both at our best, I think we are the better team.
If we can win the first period - play like we did for periods 2 and 3 we should win unless MAF is completely dialed in again. Slow start and down by 2 goals and it is a tough climb at that point.
The mistakes are what is frustrating me - couple of bad line changes, lack of focus and that can put you in a hole.
A little bit of puck luck wouldn?t hurt either.
I must say I've really been enjoying all the Friday evening playoff games we've been getting. Sure is a fun way to kick off the weekend! Also, the Sunday afternoon one should be fun, too!
...providing the outcomes of course, lol...
Quote from: Jockitch on May 17, 2018, 10:17:48 PM
yes that is all I saw as well ......... wondered if it was "malaise" again (snicker, snicker)
Now the Jets are saying Ehlers is sick and not injured. He is available for tonight tho.
https://www.tsn.ca/jets-ehlers-illness-available-for-game-4-1.1089262
Those quick response goals by Vegas are absolutely killing the Jets. They can?t even build up momentum for a full minute. Helly?s been having brain cramps with his puck handling around the net. 20 minutes (or more if OT) to determine if the Jets come home facing elimination or all tied up. I?m not nearly as confident as I was after game one...
Mistakes a plenty.
We are into miracle time now...
Aaaaaand tv is off...
Well, it?s been a great ride this season. Tough to see the dream slipping away...
They were out skated and out fore checked for 40+ minutes tonight. I don't know what's happened to them.
Their passes are sloppy...they aren't skating as fast as they've been for 2 series...the fore check of the Knights is pressuring them into poor passes and giving away the puck.
It's been a hell of an exciting run but I just don't see them taking 3 straight from the Knights. Shame really.
this just defies logic ............ I still believe but right now I'm just in speechless mode.
We totally outplayed them, fleury stood on his head, and we let another softie in, and it?s absolutely killing us.
Our backs are against the wall and we have to win 3 in a row. Odds are against us, which figures, after all we are playing Vegas!!
No big stops by Hellebuyck. when you need them. jets outplayed them. Nice goal by Meyers. Like to see them insert a few players.
Quote from: buckzumhoff on May 19, 2018, 12:38:53 PM
No big stops by Hellebuyck. when you need them. jets outplayed them. Nice goal by Meyers. Like to see them insert a few players.
Hellebuyck made some huge saves, what are you talking about. That knucklepuck muffin on the breakaway that went bar down, pure puckluck, he had that one saved except for a millimetre...
Insert players? Really? Like who? Crosby? Sure, if we could... This was the best lineup we've iced all year. We were in it until the last whistle. ON the raod, in a hostile rink, with MAF standing on his head. Again.
Sometimes you just get goalied...
Hellebucyk wasn?t screened on the last goal. Need to stop a shot from 35 ft out on a wrist shot . He had the puck on the second goal, should either hang onto it or pass it to your , own player. I?d put Lemieux in for Copp he will at least go to the net. Copp is playing ok but need some more traffic in the other goalies crease . Play Morrow or another good Moose defense man , they have quite s few that are smart with the puck and shoot.
I still think the Jets win this series in 7 games.
Maybe we need to start the today's game same as game one: score three quick goals on Fleury and play some defence to hold the lead !? ??? :D
Kulikov in - charot out
Enstrom out morrow in
Also Copp out, Armia in. Interesting changes. Sara Orlesky tweeted that they are healthy scratches. Coach making aggressive moves and hopefully it pays off. I?ve got a good feeling about this one!
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on May 20, 2018, 07:18:16 PM
Also Copp out, Armia in. Interesting changes. Sara Orlesky tweeted that they are healthy scratches. Coach making aggressive moves and hopefully it pays off. I?ve got a good feeling about this one!
Jets lookin lost in their own zone. Expected more urgency on offence
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on May 20, 2018, 07:18:16 PM
Also Copp out, Armia in. Interesting changes. Sara Orlesky tweeted that they are healthy scratches. Coach making aggressive moves and hopefully it pays off. I?ve got a good feeling about this one!
This is a tomato tomahto move. Neither copp or armia have done anything both are middle of the road players.
We need output out if our top goal scorers-Laine, as Sheiff and Wheeler
Well that was fun....too bad we couldn't beat Vegas...hopefully we have a shot next season but there is no guarantees - could miss the playoffs or win the cup.
Vegas dominated us and I suspect they will win the Stanley cup. It was more than fleury- they forced the jets into mistakes with an aggressive forechecking and then capitalized on them...we had bursts where we won periods of hockey but they played a much more complete series.
On to the CFL now.
You re right, vegas plays a high tempo pressure game--which is the jets gig, but the jets couldn't handle the pressure. They had very little time when they had the puck and often were forced into bad plays/passes with the puck--like vegas's first goal
No doubt who was the better team tonight, they were worthy of the win
Jets didn't adjust their game in the Vegas series. They also looked tired...perhaps mentally and physically.
Have to wonder which Jets are hurting, because the entire team seems off...
Seemed like after game one, everything seemed to bounce Vegas way... pucks jumping sticks, hitting refs, even something as dumb as a strap on a goal mask...
Pretty solid season, though...
It appears that Vegas has hit their ceiling with the talent they have.
However, our young guys, including Hellebuyck, should get even better, and could win us a Cup not only next year, but perhaps a few more after that !? ;D
Quote from: theaardvark on May 20, 2018, 11:02:58 PM
Have to wonder which Jets are hurting, because the entire team seems off...
Seemed like after game one, everything seemed to bounce Vegas way... pucks jumping sticks, hitting refs, even something as dumb as a strap on a goal mask...
Pretty solid season, though...
Lowry was playing with broken ribs. Laine said he?s fully healthy.
I?m not even mad about being out of the playoffs. I could sense it coming with how the series was going and I guess mentally prepared for this. This team had a fantastic run and the experience that these young guys got was huge! How fun was this season and playoff run? Winnipeg has a great thing going and I hope this is just the start of a contender team streak for many years. I really hope Chevy can find a way to sign Stastny, but I?m not sure that can happen. I?m looking forward to an even better 2018-2019 season! And don?t forget, The Hockey News predicted the Jets as 2019 Stanley Cup champs ;) On to the Bombers!
No doubt there's going to be some roster moves and Chevy is going to have some tough calls to make to fit under the cap, but when it comes to Stasney, I d keep him over Little
It seems the Jets were pressing and taking the play to vegas the last 3 games but couldn't buy a bounce. Fleury was unbelievable as well and was the difference in the series.
The Jets speed game seemed to slow down as this series wore on and they looked tired today but pressing and taking the play to a team in a game will wear you out.
Great season by the Jets. It's been a long , long time since I ve seen this province amped up the way it was.
Now onto the Bombers. Offense is better and Can't wait to see Biggie lay down the law on defense!!!!
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on May 21, 2018, 01:16:41 AM
I?m not even mad about being out of the playoffs. I could sense it coming with how the series was going and I guess mentally prepared for this. This team had a fantastic run and the experience that these young guys got was huge! How fun was this season and playoff run? Winnipeg has a great thing going and I hope this is just the start of a contender team streak for many years. I really hope Chevy can find a way to sign Stastny, but I?m not sure that can happen. I?m looking forward to an even better 2018-2019 season! And don?t forget, The Hockey News predicted the Jets as 2019 Stanley Cup champs ;) On to the Bombers!
I agree with pretty much everything you said. I saw it coming as well that?s why I didn not really make any plans at all for todays game other than staying at home to watch.
Stastny will not be back I would be surprised do not know how he fits under the cap the Jets have a few UFA and RFAs coming.
No injuries but clearly guys like Liane, Connor, Ehlers maybe even Morrissey hit a wall physically.
I am surprised more injuries weren?t disclosed. Little and the entire 4th line went missing as well.
Ryan Reeves can take a hike! No free drinks and dinners in tHis town buddy!
Fleury stole a couple of games, as did HellB vs the Preds., but did not need to steal this one.
Though I was found to be way off in my bias towards the Jets, I can't help but be impressed in how Vegas cut off the ice & use their sticks to simply poke check constantly.
Truly was thrilled with the 99 games & the success of the tenacious, skilled Jets & their organization. It was a fantastic year for all fans.
Though no guarantee for next season, one cannot help but be excited for a duplicate & hopefully better run.
P.S. ..... Roslovic is so talented.
Quote from: dd on May 21, 2018, 02:29:35 AM
No doubt there's going to be some roster moves and Chevy is going to have some tough calls to make to fit under the cap, but when it comes to Stasney, I d keep him over Little
It seems the Jets were pressing and taking the play to vegas the last 3 games but couldn't buy a bounce. Fleury was unbelievable as well and was the difference in the series.
The Jets speed game seemed to slow down as this series wore on and they looked tired today but pressing and taking the play to a team in a game will wear you out.
Great season by the Jets. It's been a long , long time since I ve seen this province amped up the way it was.
Now onto the Bombers. Offense is better and Can't wait to see Biggie lay down the law on defense!!!!
Little just signed for 6 more years and has a NMC.
Quote from: gbill2004 on May 21, 2018, 10:23:36 AM
Little just signed for 6 more years and has a NMC.
The only option for keeping Stasny over Little is a buyout...
Here is a link to the Jets' players contract status:
https://www.nhl.com/jets/team/playertracker
It looks as if the following starters have contracts up for renewal:
Forwards: starters - Stastny, Lowry, Armia, Tanev (backups - Matthias, Dano, Petan, Hendricks)
Defencemen: starters - Enstrom, Trouba, Morrissey (backups - Poolman, Morrow)
Goalies: starters - Hellebuyck (backups - Hutchinson, Comrie)
Also about ten Moose players with contracts up for renewal.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 21, 2018, 02:01:46 PM
The only option for keeping Stasny over Little is a buyout...
I'd say there is zero chance Little is bought out prior to his 6 year contract kicking in. There are other options to keep Stastny, but buying out Little is not one of them.
Wow, Ehlers gets a big pay raise July 1.
Quote from: dd on May 21, 2018, 06:21:52 PM
Wow, Ehlers gets a big pay raise July 1.
His contract was signed prior to the star of the season.
Amazing year and super fun thread, folks! Thanks to the Jets and awesome fans like yourselves.
Go Bombers!!
Quote from: dd on May 21, 2018, 06:21:52 PM
Wow, Ehlers gets a big pay raise July 1.
Ehlers is tied up on a fantastic deal for Winnipeg... only the fact that Scheifele is on an even better one makes this deal look big...
I love that Stasny is "leaving things open" about resigning here, but there is no way we can give him anything while Little's deal is on the books... would I rather have Stasny than Little? I think anyone would, but how do you move that contract...
We went from a team that was short on LD and C to one that now has too many...
also would like to say how much I enjoyed the favorable opinions, critic, relative info & the shared excitement by the fans on this forum.
It truly has been a fantastic 2017-18 Rise Together months of exhilaration & heart warming fun.
Let's keep it rolling with input for the weeks leading up to the Draft this June & of course beyond that.
Truly an incredible - and historic - campaign by the Jets. Back in early October, would anyone have predicted the end result?
This team is in great shape and I can't wait for next season!
This article about Patrick Laine had me going, until I read the disclaimer at the bottom ! ;)
https://cipptvportagelaprairie.com/2018/01/04/patrik-laines-cousin-explains-reason-behind-mennonite-beard/
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on May 21, 2018, 01:16:41 AM
I'm not even mad about being out of the playoffs. I could sense it coming with how the series was going and I guess mentally prepared for this.
Same.
Still proud of this team. What an incredible year for Helly. When the whole team produces the way it has, you notice every player brings something key to the table.
What is Washington doing differently from the Jets to run roughshod over Vegas ?
It looks as if the Caps may be roughing them up more than we did.
Would we have suffered the same fate if we had managed to get past Vegas ?
Quote from: PloenFan on June 06, 2018, 03:30:46 AM
What is Washington doing differently from the Jets to run roughshod over Vegas ?
It looks as if the Caps may be roughing them up more than we did.
Would we have suffered the same fate if we had managed to get past Vegas ?
Caps are a team that have been this before.
Quote from: PloenFan on June 06, 2018, 03:30:46 AM
What is Washington doing differently from the Jets to run roughshod over Vegas ?
It looks as if the Caps may be roughing them up more than we did.
Would we have suffered the same fate if we had managed to get past Vegas ?
They're way better with the puck in the offensive zone than the Jets were the last round. More east-west movement, better possession/forechecking, and getting more traffic in front of the net, leading to high danger scoring chances and second and third shots to score. Defensively, they're also doing a great job clogging lanes, blocking shots, and checking hard. The special teams are also coming up huge for them. Game 4 was a near perfect execution of that gameplan.
I'm not sure how the Jets would've fared had they won the WCF. Not that it matters. :-[
It's also possible Vegas is just running out of steam and not playing their best. It happened to the Jets after Nashville. Most teams look different series to series. Remember when Washington was in a 2-0 hole to COLUMUS?!
Quote from: PloenFan on June 06, 2018, 03:30:46 AM
What is Washington doing differently from the Jets to run roughshod over Vegas ?
It looks as if the Caps may be roughing them up more than we did.
Would we have suffered the same fate if we had managed to get past Vegas ?
Fleury has dropped his save % from over .950 to under .890... that's what the Caps have done.
He carried the LVGK on his back up until this series, and now he looks quite human...
.846, .965, .943, .946, .969 against us
.857, .885, .885, .739 against WSH
Sure, that means WSH is taking better advantage of the shots they are getting. But has there been one save anyone remembers about this series from MAF? Sure, Holtby has had some HON nominees, but has MAF? Yet our series was nothing but MAF highlights...
Days away from the Draft & Chevy has not announced any important RFA signings
Because the Jets are in tight as to how the structure of salaries shakes down in the next couple years .....
.... would not doubt that Roslovic is given his chance to play Top 6 at center ....... between Ehlers & Laine
With HellB, Morrissey & Trouba needing new "step up to the plate Chevy" contracts & Kulikov & Myers making high $$'s
....... I would hope Kulikov gets moved & Chiarot & Morrow stay in the plans as Dmen.
Chevy may rock our world, if Trouba is not cooperating, & move him out
Quote from: Jockitch on June 18, 2018, 09:55:47 PM
Days away from the Draft & Chevy has not announced any important RFA signings
Because the Jets are in tight as to how the structure of salaries shakes down in the next couple years .....
.... would not doubt that Roslovic is given his chance to play Top 6 at center ....... between Ehlers & Laine
With HellB, Morrissey & Trouba needing new "step up to the plate Chevy" contracts & Kulikov & Myers making high $$'s
....... I would hope Kulikov gets moved & Chiarot & Morrow stay in the plans as Dmen.
Chevy may rock our world, if Trouba is not cooperating, & move him out
If the cap goes up the reported 5+ mil, then we are fine... and might even sign Stasny...
If we move Myers for a DP, that opens up even more space for the RFAs...
Myers salary got listed at $3.M, with a Cap Hit of $5.5M for this season. Signing Stastny would be wonderful but at what cost .... $5.5M, $6.5M & how many years ??
However ........ Little starts a 6 year contract at a Cap hit of $5,291,666.M per which shows the 1st 2 years his salary set at .... $6.5M - GULP !!!
I'm suggesting we can't afford both at approximately $6M per, considering HellB, Trouba & Morrissey are each going to be in & around $5M.
Add Kulikov's $4,333,333.M for the next 2 years ....... we need more than a 1 year Myers contract to be moved ...... cuz Laine comes next.
went to http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=WIN .... for some terrific facts
Last season we saved $335,835K under the Salary Cap Hit .......... the cost of 29 contracts
Now their present Salary Cap for this season is 54,402,498.M ...... which is just 15 contracts.
I only took a cut at an additional 8 RFA contracts
So if the Jets sign Lowry for 2.2M., Armia for 2.M., Tanev @ 1.7M., Trouba for 5.8M., Morrissey @ 4.7M., Poolman for 1.3M., Morrow @ 1.2M., & HellB for 5.3M.
This arbitrary additional 24.2M brings 23 contracts to $ 78,602,498. So where do the Jets get savings to sign another 4 - 6 contracts over the season.
Chevy really has to be aggressive & the league Cap has to be up around $ 82M.
Salary Cap up by 4.5M ........ set for the 2018-19 season at 79.5M
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl-salary-cap-set-at-79-5m-1.1119587
What is Chevy going to do to make contracts fit ??
I'm sure liking the idea of Myers, Petan/Dano for a first rounder... opens cap space for Stasny, and room for players to move up. Although I'd love to see Petan stay, he will be a great value on a team needing cap room...
Even a package with some of our AHL players for a team looking for depth, a solid Dman with a team friendly / cap unfriendly contract...
We have enough parts now that we can start using assets that are close to ready but still unknown for parts that are further down the pipe...
I heard a rumor that Hellebuyck has been signed to a contract extension in the 6x6 range. Might be announced this weekend.
Yikes 6 X 6 is a chunk of change ....... sure hope HellB doesn't read his press clippings & performs with magnificent focus & agility
Sure hope that if Chevy moves 1 or more of our prized players that he does NOT move them into the same Conference
......... Just don't want to see, for i.e., Myers, Trouba, Perrault, Little, etc., playing 6-8 times vs Jets.
Mind you ...... have no allegiance to Mason or Kulikov & actually would like to see their contract $$ used better.
Quote from: Jockitch on June 22, 2018, 12:31:59 AM
Salary Cap up by 4.5M ........ set for the 2018-19 season at 79.5M
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl-salary-cap-set-at-79-5m-1.1119587
What is Chevy going to do to make contracts fit ??
He'll have to move some pieces, IMO. That's the only way to make it work.
Just saw this ...... indicating players the Jets offered qualifying contracts to
https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/jets-make-qualifying-offers-to-12-players/c-299271892
Bit surprised Morrow & Phillips not offered
Do qualifying offers only apply to restricted free agents (RFA'S) ?
It looks as if several UFA contracts are also coming due (e.g. Stastny, Hendricks, Enstrom, Hutchinson)
https://www.nhl.com/jets/team/playertracker
What's the process to re-sign them ?
Quote from: PloenFan on June 26, 2018, 01:59:30 AM
Do qualifying offers only apply to restricted free agents (RFA'S) ?
It looks as if several UFA contracts are also coming due (e.g. Stastny, Hendricks, Enstrom, Hutchinson)
https://www.nhl.com/jets/team/playertracker
What's the process to re-sign them ?
Hence the Restricted and Unrestricted designations..
After July 1, UFAs can sign anywhere, right now they can talk to anyone. I don't expect any UFA's back, with the possible exception of Stasny if Chevy makes a trade to free up cap space.
RFA's can sign offer sheets, but we have the opportunity to match, or get compensation based on the size of the contract signed..
RFA's with arbitration rights can select that route, submit a number and the team submits a number and an arbiter decides the final number, which becomes a binding contract.
Quote from: Jockitch on June 25, 2018, 10:31:55 PM
Just saw this ...... indicating players the Jets offered qualifying contracts to
https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/jets-make-qualifying-offers-to-12-players/c-299271892
Bit surprised Morrow & Phillips not offered
Same here. I was definitely expecting Morrow to get a qualifying offer. I also thought the organization was pretty high on Phillips.
Just because you don't get a qualifying offer doesn't mean the team does not have interest... they can still compete for that player's services on the open market, just not be tied into a number. Not sure if any of these players had arbitration rights, or if that factored in...
Quote from: theaardvark on June 26, 2018, 01:43:58 PM
Just because you don't get a qualifying offer doesn't mean the team does not have interest... they can still compete for that player's services on the open market, just not be tied into a number. Not sure if any of these players had arbitration rights, or if that factored in...
Nobody said the team doesn't have interest. It's just odd neither received a qualifying offer. Also, neither player has arbitration rights.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 26, 2018, 01:55:49 PM
Nobody said the team doesn't have interest. It's just odd neither received a qualifying offer. Also, neither player has arbitration rights.
I didn't think they did. Qualifying offers are a guaranteed raise... with SMS tight this year, that might not be in the cards...
Quote from: theaardvark on June 26, 2018, 02:03:57 PM
I didn't think they did. Qualifying offers are a guaranteed raise... with SMS tight this year, that might not be in the cards...
Under terms of the collective bargaining agreement, all qualifying offers are for one year and fall into three categories: 110 per cent of the previous base salary if it was less than or equal to $660,000; 105 per cent of the base salary if it was greater than $660,000 and less than $1 million; or
100 per cent of the base salary if it was equal to or greater than $1 million.https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/jets/jets-make-qualifying-offers-to-12-rfas-pass-on-four-including-morrow-486502951.html
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on June 26, 2018, 02:27:26 PM
Under terms of the collective bargaining agreement, all qualifying offers are for one year and fall into three categories: 110 per cent of the previous base salary if it was less than or equal to $660,000; 105 per cent of the base salary if it was greater than $660,000 and less than $1 million; or 100 per cent of the base salary if it was equal to or greater than $1 million.
https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/jets/jets-make-qualifying-offers-to-12-rfas-pass-on-four-including-morrow-486502951.html
So, for Morrow and Phillips, it was a guaranteed raise... thanks.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 26, 2018, 02:03:57 PM
I didn't think they did. Qualifying offers are a guaranteed raise... with SMS tight this year, that might not be in the cards...
First off, this isn't CFL. Second, the increase in QO to each player shouldn't be enough to put the Jets in dire straits from a cap management standpoint. Yes, it's a guaranteed raise but the increase for each player would be negligible in the grand scheme of things.
Morrow's base salary was $832,500. With a QO of 105%, his base would've increased to $874,125 ($41,625 raise).
Phillips' base salary was $650,000. With a QO of 110%, his base would've increased to $715,000 ($65,000 raise).I can't see $106,625 being the reason for not giving QOs to these two players.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 26, 2018, 06:48:39 PM
First off, this isn't CFL. Second, the increase in QO to each player shouldn't be enough to put the Jets in dire straits from a cap management standpoint. Yes, it's a guaranteed raise but the increase for each player would be negligible in the grand scheme of things.
Morrow's base salary was $832,500. With a QO of 105%, his base would've increased to $874,125 ($41,625 raise).
Phillips' base salary was $650,000. With a QO of 110%, his base would've increased to $715,000 ($65,000 raise).
I can't see $106,625 being the reason for not giving QOs to these two players.
It's not 106k, its the whole salary. They were luxuries last year when we had cap space, they are both cap space and contracts that come with them... sounds like they are moving on from Phillips to the next prospect. Morrow might still end up as Jet...
Quote from: theaardvark on June 26, 2018, 08:02:25 PM
It's not 106k, its the whole salary. They were luxuries last year when we had cap space, they are both cap space and contracts that come with them... sounds like they are moving on from Phillips to the next prospect. Morrow might still end up as Jet...
What are you talking about? Having a player you're comfortable playing on your NHL roster signed to a sub 1M contract does nothing but help cap issues. Having players signed to contracts like that who can play IS the luxury. You don't get extra roster spots because you're under the cap.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 26, 2018, 08:02:25 PM
It's not 106k, its the whole salary. They were luxuries last year when we had cap space, they are both cap space and contracts that come with them... sounds like they are moving on from Phillips to the next prospect. Morrow might still end up as Jet...
It's the
base salary that's used when a QO is made, which is a definitive number to use (I won't speculate on bonus figures). However, even if bonuses put the total to $150-$200K, that's still a minuscule percentage (less than 1%) of the total cap space remaining. Money simply does not seem like the reason for moving on from these two players.
If anything, it's numbers based on the amount of personnel/depth within the organization and management is comfortable moving on from either. I think the Jets are higher on Berdin, who appears set to become Comrie's backup in the AHL. I'm not sure on Morrow but I figured a QO was a foregone conclusion. He was a nice depth piece.
Bottom line is ....... Trouba, Morrissey, HellB are going to get large amounts offered in the end to ponder.
Heard on 1290 Radio bout 2ish tht the Jets are still talking to Morrow's agent.
From Cheveldayoff:
The Jets did not issue a qualifying offer to fellow deadline acquisition Joe Morrow, but Cheveldayoff expects the journeyman D man to re-sign a more team-friendly contract when free agency opens on Jul. 1.
"We anticipate something will work out in our favour there," Cheveldayoff said. "He had an arbitration case that wasn't going to be to our availability, given our cap. He wants to be here, so we feel there's a good chance we'll getting something done."
Joe Morrow remains a Jet. 1 year agreement for $1 million.
Terrific ........ he played well in the short amount of games here
Quote from: Jockitch on June 27, 2018, 12:00:13 AM
Terrific ........ he played well in the short amount of games here
Makes me think another d-man is getting moved. Quite a logjam at the bottom pairing depth.
Quote from: gbill2004 on June 26, 2018, 11:55:51 PM
Joe Morrow remains a Jet. 1 year agreement for $1 million.
Great news! I'm glad the two sides could work out a deal.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jets-sign-joe-morrow-one-year-contract-extension/ (https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jets-sign-joe-morrow-one-year-contract-extension/)
We all have heard it said & every team seems to need depth on D. Plug & play, for the extra 3 - 4 Dmen needed, beyond the initial top 6.
Yes it can be very crowded & a Kulikov (my choice) & his 4.333,333M Cap hit hopefully could be moved. Chiarot, Poolman (RFA) & Morrow did a very good job
filling in for his spot & Enstroms per example. Sammy Niku may also be pressing for time. I don't doubt that a cheaper journeyman could also be cheaply signed
via UFA, waivers, trade if the situation is warranted.
If Myers (with a large 5.5M) is moved, then Kulikov joins Morrissey & whom ever as our Lshot Dmen & I guess Poolman is on the RD
Solid.
I'm assuming this one year deal will act as infill for a year while Niku polishes his game for one last year with the Moose before jumping up to the bigs in 2019.
Quote from: blue_or_die on June 27, 2018, 01:22:54 PM
Solid.
I'm assuming this one year deal will act as infill for a year while Niku polishes his game for one last year with the Moose before jumping up to the bigs in 2019.
I can't see Niku not being in the opening day lineup. He is a goal a game player at the NHL level ;). But seriously, he came up and did not look out of place at all. Not sure who the psychiatrist is that the Jets are using to interview these draft picks, but they all see to have a certain mindset that is quite refreshing.
Probably more a 7-8 D to ride the pressbox that won't hurt you in case of injury. Great move, really. For both parties.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 27, 2018, 04:02:26 PM
I can't see Niku not being in the opening day lineup. He is a goal a game player at the NHL level ;). But seriously, he came up and did not look out of place at all. Not sure who the psychiatrist is that the Jets are using to interview these draft picks, but they all see to have a certain mindset that is quite refreshing.
Probably more a 7-8 D to ride the pressbox that won't hurt you in case of injury. Great move, really. For both parties.
You could be right. I'm a big Niku fan and think no matter what he will be treated as a serious contender to make the team. I'm probably just being cautiously optimistic that they may not want to rush him. That said, it's possible he's proven everything he's going to in the A and giving him minutes in the bigs might be better for his development vs being a big fish in a small pond. Regardless, the quantity of those minutes is a big factor, as we want him playing all year regardless of what league. He can't be a bubble NHLer, and we have no reason to have to put him in that position.
Quote from: blue_or_die on June 27, 2018, 01:22:54 PM
Solid.
I'm assuming this one year deal will act as infill for a year while Niku polishes his game for one last year with the Moose before jumping up to the bigs in 2019.
I could see Niku moving up and down next season. And that's okay. So, having Morrow helps the depth significantly.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 27, 2018, 05:14:26 PM
I could see Niku moving up and down next season. And that's okay. So, having Morrow helps the depth significantly.
Ideally they keep Niku under 10 games which would prolong his ELC.
Was at jets Development Camp today. Before the start, Vesalainen, apparently hurt, was on a seperate sheet with a trainer doing some shooting but not much skating
The 5 goalies were working on a few things. After 7-10 minutes IcePlex aide told us to go to another sheet for the practice.
Session #1 was all Dmen & was very fast decision making, puck moving ....... with goalies Radomsky from Steinbach (MJHL) & McGovern from Kootenay Ice (WHL)
Dylan Samberg (think he has a future) & Logan Stanley (looked more polished this camp) stood out for me, for various reasons. Luke Green & Croix Evingson had good moments.
The others were showing less skill, powerful stride & balance ....... but oh so young, exuberant & green. Surprised that Sami Niku "is not" listed to attend.
Session #2 was all Forwards, with an awful lot of handling pucks off the boards ..... with the same 2 goalies (incidentally, were both average or less)
Appleton was out there but was just okay. Gustafson just may turn out to be a very good selection. Liked C.J. Suess, Lukas Craggs & Harkins for some good polish & skills
No Vesalainen as mentioned, Skylar McKenzie & I don't remember seeing Nathan Smith. Goalies Berdin, Holm & Moe did not participate in either session.
....... Dmen drills were much more enjoyable to watch.
From Frank Seravalli:
#nhljets unload Steve Mason, Joel Armia, a 4th round pick and a 7th round pick to #Habs in exchange for defenceman Simon Bourque. It?s a pure salary dump, opening space to re-sign Paul Stastny.
I am shocked Chevy was able to move Mason! I liked Armia but we have others just as good coming up. Nice work Chevy! Now get Stastny to sign on the line!!
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on June 30, 2018, 03:11:40 PM
From Frank Seravalli:
#nhljets unload Steve Mason, Joel Armia, a 4th round pick and a 7th round pick to #Habs in exchange for defenceman Simon Bourque. It?s a pure salary dump, opening space to re-sign Paul Stastny.
I am shocked Chevy was able to move Mason! I liked Armia but we have others just as good coming up. Nice work Chevy! Not get Stastny to sign on the line!!
I?m an Armia fan but if this cap space means we can sign Stastny then I like the trade.
Chevy is the man.
And now Mason is on waivers for the purpose of a buyout. Would be funny if the Jets re-signed him at a decent price. As much as people are saying that Hutchinson probably burned his bridges with the Jets, I wouldn?t be surprised if he signs another deal with them. His wife is anchored here and he would be guaranteed the Jets backup, not the Moose starter. The next 24 hours should be exciting!
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on June 30, 2018, 03:11:40 PM
From Frank Seravalli:
#nhljets unload Steve Mason, Joel Armia, a 4th round pick and a 7th round pick to #Habs in exchange for defenceman Simon Bourque. It?s a pure salary dump, opening space to re-sign Paul Stastny.
I am shocked Chevy was able to move Mason! I liked Armia but we have others just as good coming up. Nice work Chevy! Now get Stastny to sign on the line!!
Wow impressive the Mason contract sucked. Armia was missing in action a lot.
Another trade, although it?s a small one.
The #NHLJets have acquired Nicolas Kerdiles from the @AnaheimDucks in exchange for Chase De Leo.
Seems like a similar player exchange so a bit curious on this one.
Well this sucks...
Winnipeg learned late last night Statsny was likely headed in a different direction. Jets went beyond their cap comfort trying to keep him.
-From Darren Dreger
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on July 01, 2018, 01:42:30 PM
Well this sucks...
Winnipeg learned late last night Statsny was likely headed in a different direction. Jets went beyond their cap comfort trying to keep him.
-From Darren Dreger
Vegas ??? What the flip??
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on July 02, 2018, 12:07:13 AM
I hate VGK...
There is not much to like.
They were given every advantage under the sun to be successful right off the hop.
The Jets got a piece of crap franchise with zero prospects. Yes we did get lucky to get the Liane pick.
The pre shows are beyond stupid, there fans are not fans of hockey, they are fans of a spectacle.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 02, 2018, 12:40:51 AM
There is not much to like.
They were given every advantage under the sun to be successful right off the hop.
The Jets got a piece of crap franchise with zero prospects. Yes we did get lucky to get the Liane pick.
The pre shows are beyond stupid, there fans are not fans of hockey, they are fans of a spectacle.
We will win The Cup anyway. **** the NHL and the crap.
Our team is built on picks. Hard road.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 02, 2018, 12:40:51 AM
There is not much to like.
They were given every advantage under the sun to be successful right off the hop.
The Jets got a piece of crap franchise with zero prospects. Yes we did get lucky to get the Liane pick.
The pre shows are beyond stupid, there fans are not fans of hockey, they are fans of a spectacle.
Yeah, it was so easy. That's why everyone had them pegged as a Stanley Cup Finalist before the expansion draft even began. It was obvious they were going to be one of the best teams in the NHL this past season.
VGK -> 3 of their D played like maniacs, including an older dude (Englland - sic). Way, way, way beyond their apparent skills.
-> great coaching with huge buy-in.
--> Lights out goaltending. Mark Andre Fleury played at his peak until the last few games of the final series.
Before the Jets, I was a true Blue Leafs fan. I was 11 when they last won the Stanley Cup.
The Leafs look really, really good this season, although can they win in the playoffs with
their defense? Time will tell.
I've always said to win a Cup in the NHL, you need at least one, maybe even two, superstars...
and even your worst player has to be pretty good.
Well, looks like the Leafs and Jets are both getting to that stage.
Happy Times for me! :)
Sure the leafs can win the cup. They will just out score you 11-10.
Wow, that sucked. Up 4-1 and end up blowing it.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 17, 2018, 03:15:49 AM
Wow, that sucked. Up 4-1 and end up blowing it.
righty o
Ugh sucky
So, is there a reason this thread isn't closed???